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Transgender discrimination at McKinleyville Rite Aid

rite-aidA new local blog by transgender woman Jennifer Baker alleges a pharmacist at the McKinleyville Rite Aid acted like a morally superior bigot when she went to pick up a prescription last week.

I checked in that I was there to pick up my Prescription. The lady checked but didn’t find it then told me … the pharmacist would like to speak with me. This whole time Johnny and I were just having a blast playing around as two year old’s do.

The pharmacist tells me with my son on my hip “ah what’s this with the two names?” and “this is not a normal prescription”.

I eagerly explain that I’m a transsexual (in the crowd) and I’m on hormone replacement therapy and this is my prescription and this is my preferred name, but this name is the one on my ID and Medi-cal info.

He Says “So the state is supposed to pay for this” and “I don’t know if I should be part of this” causing chuckles in the crowd. Like I’m a criminal deviant of some sort.

She eventually got her prescription but is taking her business to Lima’s.

“I definitely am going to complain because I expect a medical professional to be just that and not some ignorant moron you might meet on the street,” Baker wrote.

  1. blahblahblah
    September 1, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    bo-ring

  2. Anonymister
    September 1, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Blahblah needs bright, shiny things.

  3. Citizen
    September 1, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    I’m with the pharmacist. The state shouldn’t be expected to pay for your sexual preferences.

  4. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 1, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    No deviancy, imo. However, two things stand out:

    #1. If the State tax dollars are paying for one’s personal decision to change their sex affiliation or gender, then this is wrong. That person who wanted the change should pay 100% of all medical costs, not mooching off of taxpayers’ monies.

    #2. If the pharmacist initiated this conversation openly in front of other people with whatever responses or negativity, then this is poor judgement and unprofessional behavior by the pharmacist.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  5. Anonymous
    September 1, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    I’m with Militant Citizen. Medical professionals shouldn’t be expected to do their jobs.

  6. Mr. Nice
    September 1, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    #1. If the State tax dollars are paying for one’s personal decision to change their sex affiliation or gender, then this is wrong. That person who wanted the change should pay 100% of all medical costs, not mooching off of taxpayers’ monies.

    Transsexuality is not any more of an elective decision than homosexuality. People do not wake up one day and say gee whiz, I should try switching up my gender and see how that goes. By your logic, anyone with any non-life threatening psychological condition who elects to treat their condition with drug therapy should have to pay for this out of pocket even if they are on state assistance.

    Although I do not agree with the entire concept of state medical assistance (as opposed to private charity), I don’t agree with the sentiment that treatment of non-catastrophic medical conditions is in any way elective. I don’t expect the average “ignorant moron you might meet on the street” to understand gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder, etc.

  7. Tea Party Patriot
    September 1, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    I agree with Henchman. The state shouldn’t pay for my personal choice to have my suspicious mole inspected or my choice to take aspirin for my chronic headaches.

    Our natural state on this planet is to live briefly, suffer a great deal, and die. Health care is a choice, and an unnatural one at that.

    If you choose to have health care, then choose to pay for it. It’s not the public’s job to be interested in your health and well-being.

    This world would be great if not for the people.

  8. Sappy
    September 1, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    What is the discrimination part?
    If the ID doesn’t match, it is a no-no.

  9. arcatawitch
    September 1, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    How can you all be so self-rightous? What if this was your child, brother, sister, etc? How about showing a little compassion for others?

    Blessed be.

  10. average Eurekan
    September 1, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Boycott McKinleyville Rite Aid! The pharmacist in question should deliver a personal apology to Ms. Baker or be disciplined by his superiors.

    I’ll never shop there.

  11. September 1, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    I’m with “arcatawitch” and “average Eurekan” on this.

    It seems like quite a few of the rest of you are lacking in compassion and have not a clue about transsexualism. Perhaps you should educate yourselves on both counts.

  12. Mr. Nice
    September 1, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    The only ignorant moron i see her is the retarded Transgender woman/thing. What a dumbass, getting the state to pay for your hormone treatment. What a joke. Big Props up for the rite aid lady, way to tell them batty boy/thing off.

    Peace and Love!
    Praise Jah!

    “Big ups?” Why you fe galang so? A which pawt yuh deh? Humboldt, nuh?

    Coo yah. When you go a jackass yawd, you no fi chat bout big hiez. Every hoe ha dem stick a bush. Respect.

  13. HumRed
    September 1, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Average Eurekan, please do. Stay the hell out of Mck town. Lima’s is a great place to shop, and you can stay in eureka with your smug ass.

  14. Mr. Nice
    September 1, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Average Eurekan, please do. Stay the hell out of Mck town. Lima’s is a great place to shop, and you can stay in eureka with your smug ass.

    Where do you get any issue about Lima’s from “Boycott McKinleyville Rite Aid?” I think you read something wrong.

  15. Anonymous
    September 1, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Remember what our President once said.

    “We’re all just people. People, People, People.”

    I’m sure we’d all get along better if we would keep his words in mind.

    That was President Lyndon Johnson, by the way.

  16. September 1, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    This isn’t discrimination – everyone has a rude Rite Aid story.

  17. Mr. X
    September 1, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    As the parent of a transgender child, I recognize that some folks aren’t very familiar with this issue. My wife and I have had to become quite educated on this issue, as you might suspect.

    First, being transgender isn’t a choice — you are born that way. It usually takes someone years to figure out. It is a very difficult issue for the child or adult to confront, and transgender people are obviously subject to considerable social stigma and disapproval in their families and their communities. Coming out is dangerous. As a result, transgender people have much higher suicide rates than the general public.

    Second, many insurers do not cover the treatments necessary for transgender people to be who they are supposed to be. This then becomes a civil rights issue. Are we to deny someone the medical treatment to correct what is essentially a birth defect? Contrast that with the unhealthful lifestyle choices that can result in diabetes and heart disease. These poor individual choices truly impose social costs on all of us.

    Instead of reacting to this story, please take a moment and really give it some thought. What if it was you, or your child, or your sibling, who is transgender and suffered that unnecessary humiliation? There is no excuse to discriminate against people for something that is beyond their control. It doesn’t cost you anything to be accepting and empathetic, and it can make an enormous different in someone’s life.

  18. September 1, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Instead of reacting to this story, please take a moment and really give it some thought.

    I appreciate Mr. X for sharing. Thank you. However Mr. X, you are asking a lot of these people leaving comments. Thought is often a lost art here.

  19. Not A Native
    September 1, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    McKinleyville is nicknamed Oklahoma-by-the-sea for good reason.

    I’m positive Oklahoma Sen. Inhofe would be proud of this pharmacist for exercising the 1st Amendment right of freedom of speech.

  20. Eric Kirk
    September 1, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    This isn’t discrimination – everyone has a rude Rite Aid story.

    I don’t. Certainly any medication I’ve purchased has never been the source of derisive humor for the crowd.

  21. Eric Kirk
    September 1, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Mr. X, thank you for that very articulate post.

  22. anon
    September 1, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    So Citizen, Henchman, Tea PP your saying that insurance should pay for:
    Childbirth
    Viagra
    Smoking secession
    Drug Rehab
    Your skiing/biking/hunting/drinking accident

    But not to fix a physiological/chemical error??

    Wow – I hope y’all never have to step outside your own stereotypes of yourselves

  23. anon
    September 1, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    sorry “you’re”

  24. plannax
    September 1, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Ah, “cessation” too.

    /ducks, runs away

    PS: wholeheartedly agree with you

  25. Anonymous
    September 1, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    A boycott won’t work. Almost everyone already conducts their business with Lima’s. I’ve witnessed acts of generosity there that would never happen at a chain store.

  26. September 1, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    I think the discrimination happened when the Pharmacist said “the state’s supposed to pay for this?” Is it up the pharmacist to decide what the state pays for?
    Recently pharmacists lost a court battle to discriminate against people for birth control. They wanted to deny it based on some fuzzy religious feeling imposed on them by the Pope or something. Nothing about birth control in the bible.
    To add, “I don’t think I should be a part of this”, says it all.
    This pharmacist should find another profession because I agree, I don’t think this pharmacist should be a part of this either.

    I currently have my prescriptions filled at this Rite-Aid. No more.

    I used to buy a lot more than drugs there. I too will move to Limas and get my razors, shampoo, batteries, vitamins, blank cd’s and dvd’s, flip flops, over the counter acid reducer, Kleenex, soap, laundry detergent, summer patio stuff and more at K-Mart. Just a partial list of crap I have purchased from the bigots at Rite-Aid

  27. Anonymous
    September 1, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    It’s cool to punish bigots, but won’t a boycott also punish any non-bigots who happen to work at that pharmacy?

    Can anyone suggest a more focused, targeted way to affect that bigoted pharmacist personally?

  28. September 1, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Fire the pharmacist, and do a serious public apology.
    But why would they hire someone like that in the first place?
    This story will go far beyond Humboldt County.
    This guy screwed up big time.

  29. September 1, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Rite Aid is a giant chain with 599 stores in CA alone. It is unlikely to be affected by a boycott in McKinleyville.

    But to call and complain try 1-800-RITE-AID (1-800-748-3243) or Contact the Home Office:

    30 Hunter Lane
    Camp Hill, PA 17011
    or
    P.O. Box 3165
    Harrisburg, PA 17105
    Phone: (717) 761-2633

  30. September 1, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    From their website on how to contact the board of directors:

    Communications may also be sent to the following e-mail address: contacttheboard@riteaid.com. Please indicate whether your electronic message is for the Board, an individual director, or a particular group or committee of directors.
    You may submit your communication anonymously. You may also indicate whether you are a stockholder, customer, supplier, or other interested party.

  31. Anonymous
    September 1, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Bker was rightfully outraged and should maybe consider a move to Silverton, Oregon, where there are apparently a few less “ignorant morons.”

    http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_110608_news_transgender_mayor.18a1f2fa7.html

  32. Anonymous
    September 1, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Baker, sorry.

  33. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 1, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Second, many insurers do not cover the treatments necessary for transgender people to be who they are supposed to be.

    Response – they are born as is, so how does one know who they are supposed to be?

    ***************
    anon Says:

    September 1, 2009 at 5:24 pm
    So Citizen, Henchman, Tea PP your saying that insurance should pay for:
    Childbirth
    Viagra
    Smoking secession
    Drug Rehab
    Your skiing/biking/hunting/drinking accident

    But not to fix a physiological/chemical error??

    Wow – I hope y’all never have to step outside your own stereotypes of yourselves

    ***************

    Feeble-minded manipulation attempt anon.

    My response to your non-assiduous, false assertions =

    No; no; no; no; no; and no! “Persons making these decisions” should pay for these types of personal decision making!

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  34. Anon
    September 2, 2009 at 8:17 am

    You GO Jeffrey

  35. HumRed
    September 2, 2009 at 9:19 am

    “Lima’s is a great place to shop”, no issue with Lima’s at all. That is where this person went and was taken care of, SFB’s Average Eureken wants to boycott McK town Rite-Aid. I was pointing out, 1. That he could shop at Lima’s in Eureka and 2. He could keep his smug ass out of McK town. Your little man syndrome is showing again NAN. Constant need to feed your ego as being superior. Your comments are funny seeing as were you live.

  36. September 2, 2009 at 9:21 am

    Ew, Average, HumRed is talking about your ass again! Yuk!

  37. Mr. Nice
    September 2, 2009 at 10:02 am

    No; no; no; no; no; and no! “Persons making these decisions” should pay for these types of personal decision making!

    Alrightee then. So, say a person breaks their hip and elects to have surgery… they should pay for this even if they have insurance, right? After all, a person is born with predisposition to that type of injury. They can live with it if it happens.

    Or say someone is born with an endocrine deficiency. They could take the same type of hormones… electively. After all, they were born with this deficiency and they should be able to live with it.

    I have a family member with sickle cell anemia. They are taking advantage of their insurance by getting therapy. Totally, right? They should pay out of pocket and whatnot.

    Look, I’m all for private individual insurance. I think group health maintenance organizations are what has ruined health care in this country. People shouldn’t have to work a crap job for some company to get good insurance. Employers shouldn’t have to handle (fiscally) whatever medical problems their employees have. It stifles entrepreneurs. That said, I don’t agree with this non-medical talk about gender identity being some kind of elective decision that people just up and make. It’s no better than saying homosexuals shouldn’t be able to marry. In fact, it’s worse. It’s just plain bigoted.

    Just think about it for a split second beyond the creepiness of your own testicles or whatever. Do you really think people will abuse insurance to switch genders? Will they go and be a man one year and then be all… this sucks, I’m going to be a woman next year… and then switch it up back to a man for their vacation or something. Hell no. This is not Pepsi vs. Coke, this is a full-fledged medical condition we are talking about.

  38. Fannie
    September 2, 2009 at 10:02 am

    1. For once I agree with henchman. Non life threatening elective medical aid should NOT be paid for by the state.

    2. If the problem with being transgender is the social problem, then all ugly people should also receive aid. Anyone who has been bullied or harassed as well. Short people, too. Sounds like you want insurance for happiness, and that does NOT exist.

    3. I am so tired of “liberals” calling anyone who doesn’t agree with them “ignorant”. I though you were the party of tolerance and acceptance. ( as long as you are “different” in a way that is acceptable to them!)

  39. Fannie
    September 2, 2009 at 10:04 am

    ps.
    However, the behavior of the pharmacist was completely unacceptable, and that has nothing to do with the current policies. He is just an ass.

  40. Mr. Nice
    September 2, 2009 at 10:11 am

    3. I am so tired of “liberals” calling anyone who doesn’t agree with them “ignorant”. I though you were the party of tolerance and acceptance. ( as long as you are “different” in a way that is acceptable to them!)

    I’m not a liberal. I don’t believe people who have these prejudices are ignoring any obvious facts. They don’t even necessarily lack the intelligence to grasp reality. They know the facts and choose to have some fucked up opinion about them.

  41. September 2, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Shop local. Rite Aid out of Humboldt!

  42. Michelle
    September 2, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    The bottom line is that Ms. Baker has a legitimate diagnosed medical condition, and had a legitimate prescription for medication for that condition. Furthermore, she is covered by MediCal, just as are many other Californians.

    The pharmacist was out of line in more than one way, and Rite Aid should discipline him. Firing would be too extreme for a first offense, but there definitely should be a black mark on his record. Ms. Baker’s plan to write to Rite Aid Corporate and to the state agency is right on the money.

  43. September 2, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Michelle, I’d be really surprised if that was the guy’s first offense. Bullies usually have a pattern of bad behavior.

  44. anonagain
    September 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Just wondering Muskrat

    What about the local people who work at Rite Rid. Do they get to go too?

  45. McKinleyville Kris
    September 3, 2009 at 7:54 am

    Yes, this is not Rite-Aide’s problem, it is that particular pharmacist’s problem. I have had great service at both Rite-Aide and Lima’s.

  46. September 3, 2009 at 9:33 am

    Actually . . . as long at the pharmacist is employed by Rite-Aid it *is* their problem too.

  47. September 3, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    As for the treatment being somehow “elective” or “optional”, here’s what the professional Standards of Care say. These are the “best practices” for treatment, and anyone who doesn’t follow them risks a malpractice lawsuit:

    “In persons diagnosed with transsexualism or profound GID, sex reassignment surgery, along with hormone therapy and real-life experience, is a treatment that has proven to be effective. Such a therapeutic regimen, when prescribed or recommended by qualified practitioners, is medically indicated and medically necessary. Sex reassignment is not “experimental,” “investigational,” “elective,” “cosmetic,” or optional in any meaningful sense.”

    Of course some people don’t agree – usually out of complete ignorance of the biology involved. In fact, most medics don’t know this stuff, only specialists, just as most medics don’t know about other, rare conditions. Most don’t rely on their religious beliefs though when dealing with Kleinfelter syndrome, Paget’s disease, or the like.

  48. Anonymous
    September 3, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    good luck at Lima’s…they have never been exactly nice and friendly to me either, and I only have one name.

  49. MackTown
    September 4, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Hell, if Rite Aid makes it uncomfortable for the wierdos to stay away, they got my business. I like to shop without having to rub shoulder with the fruits and nuts.

  50. September 4, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Maybe you have a point, MackTown. It might be good if there was one place (like Rite Aide) for all the morons and idiots of the world to shop and other places for people with working brains. I suspect you really would be happier surrounded by more of your kind.

  51. dawn i
    September 4, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    If we’re concerned with the cost of medical care etc here and how folks are accessing what care they need my feeling is that compared to what the state pays to keep preemie babies alive (on Medi-cal or Insurance) is probably doing a lot more to drive up other folks medical costs than a transgender issue.
    Often times the shrewd drawn out hospitalizations for those preemies and what the docs do to keep them alive or try to make them viable people that can breath and eat on their own is a pet peeve of mine. It’s not an issue we ever hear talked about as far as the procedures that really jack up the costs of others health care but I feel it’s a major problem that the system favors these kind of ‘heroic’ medical adventures.
    Don’t get me started on fertility drug multiple births…
    At least we know Jennifer might be blessed with her one child and move into the next phase of ‘her’ life.

  52. Joshua
    September 8, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    This to me looks like someone trying to see if he/she can get some money out of another source than the taxpayer/state – and Rite Aid was the “target”. I wonder what else was said – we are just hearing the complaint of this individual – there are normally 2 sides to the coin! I cannot belief that this story unfolded as per this “poor trans-gender”. She already does not have money to PAY for HER/HIS own “choice”, and now I guess “Rite Aid” stepped up to the plate, so to speak through what was “allegedly” said by the pharmacist! What a way to go through life – always looking out for someone else to “pay your way”! This I can guarantee you is NOT just about the so called “discrimination”, it is ALL about the MONEY – suit to follow against Rite Aid/pharmacist!!! An apology from the pharmacist will NOT be in order, hear my cry – this person is going to MILK this cow all the way! Shame on you and I am sickened by the fact that HARD working people in CA’s taxes are being used to pay for this kind of treatment. I don’t like the looks of my nose, but believe you me, the taxes of hard working Californians will not pay for a “nose-job” for me! No wonder the state is bankrupt!! By calling the pharmacist an “ignorant moron”, also shows you what caliber person the poor guy/lady (pharmacist) was dealing with! If the pharmacist had to call this “poor soul” an “ignorant moron”, I bet you he/she would still have taken action. I conclude with the words we all have heard over and over again in the 80’s by Mr. T from the A-team: “I pitty the fool”!! The fool being the “cry-baby”.

  53. This is the Reality
    September 8, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Some things seem curious about this situation.

    In my opinion:

    1. Baker has publicly declared information which might otherwise have been protected health information. Now Baker has dissolved any expectation to privacy with this public disclosure.

    2 Has anyone even considered the relevance of the question allegedly posed by the pharmacist? If the alleged question was asked, it would have been wholly appropriate since Rite Aid/Lima’s/CVS LONGS or any other dispenser would have to appeal to the state for remittance of funds associated with (in the instant case) Bakers prescription. Among the responsibilities of any pharmacist is the fiduciary responsibility to reasonably assure the business will receive money from the state when it processes a medical claim for dispensing. By Baker’s account which initiated this blog, it is clear that Baker is perpetrating a fraud against the state of California when seeking access to Medical benefits under an alias which is not authorized for access to the benefits which were being claimed. If Baker needed the meds the billing pharmacy must file the name of record in order to make sure the Treatment Authorization Request (TAR) document required by the state of California properly completed and submitted. If any pharmacy submitted fraudulent information, the ability to dispense to Medical patients would be subject to suspension. In that event, a greater number of properly accessing patients who rely on the Medical system for dispensing would be harmed. Baker has jeopardized the access of thousands good citizens of this community who comply with the state TAR standards and rely on Rite Aid for delivery of their medication and treatments using the Medical system.

    As Joe Friday said, “The fact Ma’am, Just the facts.”

  54. Anonymous
    December 12, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    No new comments?

  55. taxed
    December 12, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Why should my taxes pay for someone cutting off their dick.

  56. December 13, 2010 at 3:15 am

    May you not get penile cancer then, taxed.

  57. Mitch
    December 13, 2010 at 4:39 am

    It’s well beyond the need for an apology, assuming the criminal still works at Rite-Aid.

    There are privacy laws regarding disclosure of medical information. They are extremely strong and unforgiving. To have a conversation “(in a crowd)” with someone requesting a medication is illegal, whether you snicker or not. Rite-Aid’s management has subjected itself to both civil and criminal penalties.

    As for the neanderthal commenters here, I think Plain Jane would have something to say.

  58. Lacy burr
    September 20, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    It’s a shame that there are people like that out there. He had no right to treat you the way he did. I’m trying to transition myself from female to male, not much luck on medication though. I know how it feels to be treated unequal too. But the way to get to them is to let it not bother you. Much love.
    Lacy burr

  59. February 2, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Crazy medi-cal pays for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  60. Anonymous
    February 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Anonymous at 2:19 appears angry but uninformed.

  61. August 16, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    You really make it appear really easy along with your presentation but
    I to find this topic to be actually one thing that I think I would never understand.

    It seems too complicated and extremely broad for me. I’m looking ahead in your subsequent post, I will attempt to get the hang of it!

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