MARIJUANA: A bigger threat to kids than obesity

Republicans say the darnedest things.

This jewel of wisdom was delivered on November 18 to Attorney General Eric Holder who, remarkably, kept a straight face.

[h/t Crooks and Liars]

45 Responses to MARIJUANA: A bigger threat to kids than obesity

  1. Anony.Miss says:

    I think in Humboldt and Mendocino Counties, that statement could actually be true. I am seeing what I consider to be over-use of pot as a recreational drug on a daily basis here, which I believe to be a dream killer and a slow way to lead a pretty unproductive and unsatisfying life. Nothing against a little pot, but like any drug, it is sad when it because too important in daily life.

  2. Walt says:

    The number one health risk for our kids is not “illicit marijuana”, nor even obesity: it’s television. Talk about a dream killer. . .

  3. Spongy Morel says:

    The Senator is a doctor? When a doctor makes ridiculous statement like, “marijuana is a bigger threat to our young people than obesity” then everything else that comes out of his mouth is just pretty much, “blah, blah, blah.”

    Next!

  4. Marijuana is an opportunity maker. All you have to do to pull ahead in your job is come to work with a clear head. You will get all the promotions, while your poor stoned friends will be left behind. But, you shouldn’t feel sorry for them, they have a prescription to cure their depression. In the end, they will be happier than you. They will become unemployable, and you will get to pay for their support.

    But, we all rabidly defend our drugs of choice. I use coffee at work, and if they tried to take it away, I would join an armed insurrection!

  5. Ed says:

    I would rather my tax dollars be spent to aid the poor and infirm, to educate and house and heal than have it go to the military industrial complex and to corporate bailouts. Welfare for the needy is a drop in the bucket. Most mj users I know are pretty industrious.

  6. Mr. Nice says:

    Ernie, people who drink coffee don’t get over either. I’ve seen many coffee drinkers like…

    Start work, jamming away, talking on the phone with clients. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Thinking they are making headway. All excited about anything.

    Lunch, more coffee. Eating junk food because that is what they push at the coffee shop. Jacked up for the first half hour back from lunch on coffee and pastries.

    Afternoon, caffeine no longer works. Sleepy, irritated, trying to correct all the mistakes made jamming away on triple espresso in the AM.

    The biggest threat is coffee. Should schedule caffeine. (ominous music)

    But, seriously, I have read things you have said before about people working cash registers and people in line in SoHum being high as hell. Things still get done despite those people.

  7. bottle rocket says:

    Anony.Miss, are you talking about alcohol or marijuana? Alcohol abuse is much more widespread in Humboldt!

  8. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE" says:

    Yes, it is plain as day when I walk down the street what the more threatening health problem in the U.S. is (and it ain’t a river in Egypt – DeNial) – Caloric overload. I understand the viewpoint of the “eyes of the beholder” who may or may not have attached political interests or aspirations to the topic of discussion – healthcare power and control.

    My personal viewpoint includes this reasoning – that the use and/or compassionate acceptance (whether or not one uses) of marijuana actually devalues the “false needs” (needs false to begin with) for government to intervene into that individuals life trying to prove to them that government knows best. In other words, marijauna users are less likely to endorse or accept anything “government pushed” that has to do with war, loss of freedoms, health, what big brother can do for you, the propaganda that persists, etc…(all the actions used against the citizenry to take, take, take). This means that mj users are not as easily led like many others who are sheeple; and, since mj users and supporters typically do not see “eye to eye with the mainstream social agenda” that is being pushed through the media by “Big Brother” through both hands, this pisses off the leaders on both sides (Repubs and Dems). Just my 2 cents based partly on the years of living and meeting the acquaintence of so many folks for which interesting discussions have ensued.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  9. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE" says:

    DESIRE – The new addiction or illness, lola! Like I have said so often about laws – laws do nothing when the person will still do what they want through desire!

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  10. High Finance says:

    The doctor is right.

    Drug abuse is a far, far bigger problem than being overweight. Kids listen to what is going on. There are plenty of illegal drug advocates who are claiming drug use is not bad for you. The message we are sending them is dangerous.

    Take a look around. Go to the illegal camp grounds that are springing up. Talk to the homeless with substance abuse problems. Even the ones with mental problems have significant drug use (either now or in the past or both) as a contributing cause.

    The number of brain dead zombies running around is far greater than at any time ever before. Drug use skyrocketed starting in the 60′s. It is not a coincidence.

  11. Dave says:

    Remarkably is right.

    But you have to remember that ANY politician can lie through his/her teeth and smile at you when he/she is doing it.

    There’s no statement too crazy for a politician to make.
    Basically it’s their job to serve corporate masters with agendas that seldom end up being good news for the public..

  12. Cleroy says:

    WooooooHoooo I love my coffee!!!

    TV/Video games + Junk Food + Fatigue + MyFace/Spacebook = American teens and young adults. Adding a little M.J. to that just cements it in place. Take all that away and a few months later give’m some o’ that Mary Jane and voila, they forget about all that other shit!

  13. Cleroy says:

    Damn I’m articulate on coffee, YeeeeeeeeHAAAAAAAAAA

  14. Anony.Miss says:

    I drove through Arcata at 5:20 am today- you can smell this town! Smells like marijuana… I really have nothing against a little pot, it’s kinda fun, but these brain-impaired, stoned losers who don’t pull their weight and depend on the rest of us to pay for their lives and do all the critical thinking is just a drain…

  15. Dave said “There’s no statement too crazy for a politician to make.
    Basically it’s their job to serve corporate masters with agendas that seldom end up being good news for the public..”

    Dave has dicovered the enemy….

  16. Joe Schmo says:

    These “brain-impaired, stoned losers” are not that way because of pot. Do people really think that without marijuana we would have a more productive society?

    Pot does not make people lazy (I bet you nearly most of the employed in Humboldt smoke marijuana) but lazy people just love to smoke pot!

    If these lazy bums, that depend on the rest of us to pay for their lives, didn’t have marijuana to smoke it would be something else (World of Warcraft, video games, television, alcohol, pornography, tobacco, etc…).

    Marijuana is not the problem, their are always going to be lazy people that expect to receive help from others in their society.

  17. dafaulk says:

    I am…surprised that a Republican Senator would ignore a clear states rights issue in favor of central federal authority on this issue. Here we have a ” liberal” President who is respecting a traditionally conservative perspective: respecting states rights. Of course, it was the same ” conservative” Republicans that stripped states of their rights under the 2005 LNG provisions of the Federal Energy Act and placed authority for placement of LNG facilities with the FERC…
    From a conservative perspective drugs should be regulated at the state level not at the federal level.

  18. Anony.Miss says:

    Joe- I have been around the block enough to personally feel that there IS a cause-and-effect relationship between pot and drive. I think each drug has its effect on a person, whether it’s losing your teeth, causing hyperactivity, ruining your life in different ways. Pot’s effects seems to be as consistent as any other, and to me the consistency lies in lack of drive to move ahead with your life and think productively…

  19. Heraldo says:

    There are many lists of famous pot smokers available on the web going back to Shakespeare and George Washington. Drive and productivity didn’t appear to be a problem for them.

  20. Anony.Miss says:

    No, maybe only those who do it every day every few hours.

  21. “famous pot smokers available on the web going back to Shakespeare and George Washington. “

    Oh my god! Did they use alcohol and coffee too?

  22. Heraldo says:

    Are you suggesting coffee counteracts the mj? Sounds like a great business plan for Arcata!

  23. Not A Native says:

    Similar to other issues, the interests of HumCo and the overall State of California are at odds when it comes to pot decriminalization.

    HumCo would benefit if pot was legalized, California as a whole would be harmed.

    For many, pot use is an innocuous diversion that they can limit to infrequent occasions. And some musicians, artists, shamans, mystics and others can find inspiration in the experience.

    But for many others, the effects of pot is an irresistible worldview where productive, focused, and continuously directed efforts don’t seem necessary. The distorted perceptions of being stoned gives those people a sense of well being and a belief that they are productive. But actually, they aren’t. Perhaps these people already had difficulty concentrating their minds so pot makes it easier to be that way. But I believe most all people with that problem can be helped to improve their performance, not just allowed to subsist on palliatives.

    Mr. Nice observes that “things still get done despite those people”. I’d say the bare minimum for immediate existence may get done. But many things necessary to thrive, grow, develop, and compete to achieve outstanding results, don’t get done by those people.

  24. Cleroy says:

    I am…surprised that a Republican Senator would ignore a clear states rights issue in favor of central federal authority on this issue.

    Dammit Faulk! Quit trying to makes so much sense!

  25. Anonymous says:

    not a native: are you saying that cal would suffer and hum would ben, because hum would rid its problems assoc with pot, and the state would harm because everyone would be be stoned? please elaborate.

  26. Anony.Miss says:

    I agree with NAN about the bare minimum getting done to survive. I agree with anonymous that it should be legalized.. We should at least give it a try. To me, it’s like a painkiller, those who need it get relief and those who don’t just get addicted.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Marijuana smokers have their joints. I have my blogs. The addiction, I assure you, is only psychological.

  28. Pan-fried says:

    Waaay back I once worked at a place where the goats got to fill up on leaf and stem byproducts. This one thoroughly sated, and rather wide in the middle goat was just leaning up against a shed. It stayed in place, all google-eyed as goats are, for hours, just leaning against the wall of the shed to stay upright. Questions came to my mind: “Was this goat obese? Was she pregnant? Was she amotivated when on marijuana? What would be the biggest threat to her kids?”

  29. Frankie says:

    Doobie doobie doo

  30. jim says:

    The hardest workers I know use pot for recreation. NOT at work.
    But most people I know with cell phones and PDA’s get less and less done every year.

    I guess we all have our ‘drugs’.

    This was a stupid comment by the senator that just riles up people so we argue some more while they bail-out more banks, close schools, and continue to vote themselves raises.

    Legalize it. Agriculture may soon be familiar to all of us.

  31. Mr. Nice says:

    I agree fat people shouldn’t smoke so much weed.

  32. moviedad says:

    I think all medications fall into two categories. If it helps it good, if it hurts its bad.
    For pot I think if the use of cannabis energizes you and helps with depression or concentration, great. But if it sends you to the TV with a sandwich, you have the wrong prescription.

  33. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE" says:

    Jim, you are right about so many elected officials using the citizenry as chess pieces fighting against each other – this is how government gets away with most of the crap going on (by pitting one citizen against another). This is a centuries old game!!!!!!!

    Anony.Miss, I find the opposite of what you are implying to be true with MOST pot users I have ever met. Most users I have met have great drive and really do work hard. In fact, some of the work done is work that many U.S. citizens would not touch with a ten foot pole, sts. Dirty finger nails – no, not when cush inside computer jobs allow perfume and nice clothes to be worn while yacking on cell phones, blogging and generally wasting bits and pieces of time lowering productivity while attempting to look like a GQ model while doing it……. Yes, it is true that there are prejudices and biases when comparing “real work” to “providing a service”.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  34. suzy blah blah says:

    this is how government gets away with most of the crap going on (by pitting one citizen against another). This is a centuries old game!!!!!!!

    –the fact is there’s a lot more obesity in noHum than there is in soHum, and a much higher ratio of pot smokers down here.

  35. Suzy Blah Blah says:

    Well duh?!, yes we have a higher pot smoker down here, despite our lack of obesitty, and all the scinetific ratios an’ such.

  36. Blackcoffee says:

    Heard the NPR Arcata pot story tonight?

    Not well done but damaging to our area, growers and non-growers alike.

    We need a more nuisanced examination of the situation.

    It is not going away.

  37. suzy blah blah says:

    hey theyre Suzy, if youre such a gnow it all expert about “down here”, then maybe you can tell us (without googling or asking Alice) –which side of the county makes yuo obeese and which side makes you lytle?

  38. Suzy Blah Blah says:

    Well hey threr suzy.
    which side of the county?… The topside which is which you hear that one hill makes you larger, and one hill makes you small. (That I don’t get–it might be a distortion of some old mythology of our forefathermothers)
    Did I answerve your questoin?

  39. Suzy Blah Blah says:

    Ps. black coffee… Is this nuisanced enuf?

  40. Mr. Nice says:

    Alright, if you cross a Korean Landrace with Indiana Hoosier strain, do you get K. L. Hoosier?

    What about Robin’s Revenge with Pakistani Hashplant… Robin Hashplant’s Revenge?

    There’s gotta be some way to capitalize on alla this exposure. Should be growing pure Arcata Train Wreck or just calling everything Arcata something or the other. Arcata Diesel and shit.

  41. Ditchweed says:

    How about an “Illegal Marijuana Theme Park”…for when it goes legal. We can all imagine different features….justa few ideas
    Plazoid Paradise where our famous day residents could get paid in dakind for hanging there, and not here.
    Indos on the Cheap with stalking reporters and fire trucks racing to the fires. Lots of people looking out of their windows from behind the curtains.
    A small scale train ride around the park to sate the interests of the pro-rail crowd.
    An Outdoor Guerilla Grow area with quadbusting ravines and snakes, and wild pigs and tweaker ripoffs.

    etc…

    We are talking Jobs here, acreage taken out of potential housing development, social nuisances relocated, and of course the Marijuana concessions.
    Thinking post-legal…

  42. suzy blah blah says:

    sorry Suzy, you loose, it’s the other way around, LOL.

  43. Mr. Nice says:

    Ditchweed, I dunno how that theme park is gonna work out. What are you gonna have… a grow fun house with mylar curved to make you look ten feet tall? Some kinna dispensaryland where you wait in an endless line and when you finally get to the front, all they have left is last season’s outdoor? Hydrotown where a bunch of yahoos sell off pallets of dirt at 3/4 the price of any nursery to people who don’t even use their backyards?

    Sounds weird. Nobody would believe it ever existed.

  44. whatever says:

    coffee, pot and blogs…..
    so much fun

  45. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE" says:

    Musical sounds created at a very low alpha frequency range of 5-15 hertz causes euphoric, hypnotic and hallucinatory deep thought patterns. Hmmm, music is addictive too, how amazing! What else does big brother know so well?

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

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