Hawaii is bracing for a tsunami following a massive quake that hit Chile at 3:34am local time. The first waves are expected to hit the island state at 11:19 am.
Coastal California is under a lower-grade advisory, so use caution in your whereabouts for the next several hours.
[UPDATE: The National Weather Service predicts a wave will hit San Francisco at 1:26 pm and Crescent City at 1:46 pm.]
At least 78 122 147 214 708 are dead from today’s earthquake.
The same area of Chile was rocked by a 9.5 earthquake in May of 1960.
Is there a local wavehight advisory and time available?
Most of the focus appears to be on Hawaii. If I find more info I’ll post it.
From the Triplicate:
“The forecasted arrival time for Crescent City is 1:46 p.m. PST Saturday, however tsunamis can be dangerous for many hours after arrival, and the initial wave is not necessarily the largest, the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center says. “
The tsunami wave is predicted to hit the SF area at 1:26 pm and Crescent City at 1:46 pm.
SAN FRANCISCO-CA 1326 PST
CRESCENT CITY-CA 1346 PST
“THE THREAT IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN AT APPROXIMATELY 1:30 PM PST AND WILL CONTINUE FOR SEVERAL HOURS….. AND THE INITIAL WAVE WILL LIKELY NOT BE THE LARGEST. MAXIMUM WAVE HEIGHTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE NEAR 1.5 FEET.”
Thanks, Zeno.
Pacific Tsunami Warning Center
Ahh, strike that. The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center apparently doesn’t apply to the west coast of North America because, like, we’re no where near the Pacific Ocean. So we do indeed listen to the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Information Center which conveniently cannot handle web traffic during a tsunami alert and currently reports “Could not connect.” Thanks!
which conveniently cannot handle web traffic during a tsunami alert and currently reports “Could not connect.”
Could be the server is being overwhelmed with traffic.
Carol wrote elsewhere it was supposed to be an 8′ wave. Everything I’ve seen says they should be between 1 and 2 feet, if that.
Is it just my computer or is H pimping for Cynthia’s diet blog? On the home page, weather service is underlined (not on the thread) and rather than weather service, the diet blog pops up. Can my computer tell I NEED Cynthia’s diet blog??? :(
Wha? Which link?
Here is a map that shows the exepcted arrival times:
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2010/02/27/725245/10/ttvu725245-10.jpg
There could be more than one wave and subsequent waves could be larger than the inital wave.
Something to remember is that the height of a tsunami wave is not the only problem. A 1 1/2 foot wave that just keeps coming can can cause serious flooding.
Great link, Carol! Thanks.
Weather Service in this section:
[UPDATE: The National Weather Service predicts a wave will hit San Francisco at 1:26 pm and Crescent City at 1:46 pm.]
It seems to come and go.
You are welcome, H. Here is another advisory map:
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2010/02/27/725245/10/wwareas725245-10.gif
I beleive I read in the newspaper that boaters ought to be cautious if venturing out today due the rough seas. With the tsunami warning, I do not think it is a good day to go out in a boat.
Believe (“i” is the sailor that follows the “c”)
What effect with the tsunami advisory have on today’s event commemorating the Indian Island massacre?
Here’s a link for the earthquake. Note there is a “tab” for tsunami information and several links under that:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010tfan.php#details.
This link has specific times for specific coastal locations, including Humboldt Bay (1333PST):
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2010/02/27/725245/09/message725245-09.htm
Here’s the arrival times:
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2010/02/27/725245/09/webeta725245-09.txt
Hawaii turned on their tsunami sirens this morning and they are evacuating low lying areas. Hilo airport and beaches were closed.
What about the Perilous Plunge? Still on?
@Anonymous 8:01: “I call shenanigans.”
Huh? The link I gave before 8:00 am on this site used data from the authoritative WEST COAST/ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER. So now we aren’t supposed to trust NOAA?
Your paranoia regarding my authoritative post is extremely irresponsible in a situation like this.
FYI, the arrival time remains the same as I reported above, and the maximum wave height remains at 1.5 to 1.7 feet. Effectively no new information.
Depending on the wavehight, boaters would probably be in less danger than people walking the jetty or local ocean beaches. Crossing the bar is another story, depending on tidal flow.
I am not sure where I read about 8 ft waves, but I am staying away from the beach today. Yesterday’s rain pretty much flooded the Eel River Delta. I am sure it is flooded down by the mouth. What time is high tide?
Isn’t this the same type of event we would have here when the Cascadia Subduction Zone moves?
High tide is 10:45am.
There were waves of about that height within minutes of the earthquake in and around Chili, Carol.
Yes, QE. We could expect a similar tsunami from a quake of that magnitude here.
Thanks, H and PJ. I admit I go into ALERT mode when it comes to earthquakes. The 6.5 felt like being in a blender here in Loleta. It was scary.
Heraldo, I have to scold you for not taking anonymous 8:01 to account in regard to my early and authoritative post. That’s your job, not mine.
Me too, Carol. When the earth really does move under my feet, it scares the hell out of me. I can’t tell when the quake stops because I’m always shaking for long afterward.
Consider me scolded, Zeno. The comment has been trimmed to the link.
Holy Heck!
Is an 8.8 is something like 150 times stronger than what we had or 15 times stronger? I always get the decimal point wrong on comparing earthquakes.
CNN is saying it was 700 to 800 times stronger than the Haiti quake. Not sure that really means all that much to someone on the ground, though. If it was that much stronger, in relative terms, I would think there wouldn’t be anything left standing. They’re saying now some airport down there is expected to be closed for at least 24 hours. I would think something of that magnitude would totally destroy the airport.
For instance, this CNN video shows damage not much different than other smaller quakes. Hope the link stays together:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/02/27/chile.quake/index.html?hpt=T1
Before anyone gets started on me and thinks I’m saying it’s no big deal, I’m not saying that. I’ve just seen similar damage from the Anchorage quake back in 1964(?). That was supposed to be a 6.5, if I remember correctly.
The Richter Scale can be a decent measuring tool, but probably most useful to geologists and such. To the person on the ground in the middle of a quake, there might not be a noticeable difference between a 6.5 and an 7 or 8.
and I’m scared to death of all of them!
Carol probably got her 8 foot figure from this Yahoo News report. They’re saying the wave expected to hit Hilo, Hawaii will be 8 foot.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100227/ap_on_re_us/quake_tsunami
The approximate formula for “energy release”, not amplitude. is 32 to the power of the magnitude difference. So a 7.5 releases 32 more times energy than a 6.5 (32 to the 1 power). However, the difference of the Eureka 6.5 and the Chile 8.8 is a difference of 2.3. 32 to the 2.3 power is 2896. So the Chile earthquake released 2896 times more energy than the Eureka 6.5. Although the energy release is over a much broader area than the Eureka (or Haiti) events. Chile would be about 512 times greater energy release than Haiti (a 1.8 difference; 32 to the 1.8 power). The difference in wave amplitude is a power of 10, rather than 32.
Wasn’t the Alaskan event more ike a 9.5?
The USGS reports the 1964, March 27 earthquake as magnitude 9.2 (moment magnitude*)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/events/1964_03_28.php
* http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php
No Fred. The 1964 AK earthquake was 9.2 and lasted 5 minutes.
The Chilean quake lasted 1.5 minutes. Can you IMAGINE a quake of that magnitude for 5 minutes?? I don’t want to.
What are the chances we will?
very good chances
M7.0 off Japan friday???
You would definitely see a difference between a 6 and an 8. The problem is people have a hard time understanding the difference between a linear and a logarithmic progression. That’s where all that higher education you think is a waste of time comes in Fred.
Ok. My memory failed me. Still, it seems to me that it’s not going to make that much difference to a guy standing in the middle of a quake whether it’s 6.5 or an 8. Location to the epicenter and duration of the quake would probably make more of a difference as to what one feels and the damage that results. The Richter Scale, other than a way of measuring earthquakes, is probably more of academic interest than anything else.
There are numerous mitigating factors: distance from the epicenter, depth of the quake, the stability of the ground on which a building (or city) is located (for example, there’s a reason our mall took way more damage than other parts of Eureka), how modern the structures are in terms of building codes for earthquake safety, etc.
Chile’s buildings are light years ahead of construction techniques in Haiti, and the quake’s epicenter was 200 miles east of Santiago… and yet, the quake was strong enough to bring down buildings and bridges 200 miles away.
“What are the chances we will?”
Depends on what you mean by “we.” The chance of a massive quake hitting here is 100%. Whether WE, as in you and I, will see it is impossible to predict.
It is important to understand that these large earthquakes are the result of fault motion that extends 100s of miles. About 200 miles of fault broke in this 8.8 Chilean earthquake (an average of about 12 feet along the length of that quake). The duration of shaking is not the result of a single fault 30 miles away from one location (like our Jan earthquake) continuing to release the same energy for 5 minutes. The energy is distributed over a much larger area – however it rumbles on as the fault continues to move. It’s still catastrophic, but in some ways you may be worse off being at the epicenter of a magnitude 7 earthquake.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2010/us2010tfan/finite_fault.php
There are a couple of local kids over in Chile as exchange students. I hope they are o.k.
Is seismic wave frequency different for diffeent magnatudes and how does that affect damage?
An earthquake generates 3 types of waves: P-waves (compressional waves, like sound), S-waves (shear waves, similar to waves when you wiggle a rope back and forth), and L-waves (surface waves, which have longer wavelengths and are similar to the waves made when you throw a pebble into a pond). The P-waves travel fastest, then the S-waves, and the L-waves are slowest.
Magnitude — which measures the amount of energy released — does not affect frequency, but is logarithmically correlated with wave amplitude (wave height, or size), and with duration of shaking.
The waves have different frequencies and amplitudes; the results, in terms of shaking and damage (called earthquake intensity), depend greatly on the local geology and ground conditions, the size and nature of construction of structures, distance from epicenter, and earthquake magnitude.
P-waves, which you always feel first, typical give an initial jolt, and a rapid, vibrating shaking. The following S-wave is commonly of longer wavelength and yields an up-and-down or side-to-to side swaying or shaking. The L-waves, which move along the earth’s surface, come last and are what people are noticing when they say they saw the ground rolling in waves. These long-wavelength waves are commonly the most destructive, especially when they interact with tall, skinny structures that can resonate in time with them.
In my own experience, I commonly notice the initial P wave, then there’s a small break and I feel the S-wave shaking. Unless the earthquake is large, I don’t notice the L-waves. Note that if you are very close to the epicenter, all three waves will arrive at nearly the same time. The farther away you are, the greater the time separation.
One final thing about a tsunami. A two-foot tsunami is NOT like a 2-foot higher wave. It’s like the tide suddenly rose two feet over a matter of a few seconds, and it will commonly be accompanied by a strong onshore (and then offshore) flow of water. On a narrow or a very flat beach it can pose real trouble, especially for someone with small children or dogs.
This is probably lots more than any of you asked for, but then, I’m a geologist.
Thanks, Filibuster. Accurate information is always welcome, even if we don’t understand all of it. I have noticed the different movements during earthquakes but didn’t know what they were called.
Filibuster – you are only describing one type of surface wave when you say “L-Wave”, and the up and down motion is from a Rayleigh wave not an “L-wave”. The “L” wave is a Love wave (seriously) and it is a surface wave that results in a horizontal back and forth motion – perpendicular to the direction of wave propagation (or the direction it is spreading). The combined result of these surface waves (Rayleigh and Love) is a “corkscrew” type of motion that people sometime feel in these events.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/glossary/?term=surface%20wave
You are correct about frequency and the caution about tsunami and the misunderstanding of their wave heights.
By the way, a very large subduction zone earthquake could do substantial damage to tall buildings inland (Redding, Sacramento) because the natural resonance of these buildings is susceptible to the low frequency waves that are experienced farther from the source.
STOP with the science! My brain is happier understanding it as a vengeful god randomly smiting his followers.
In pictures of the Alaskan quake you can see where the earth literally opened up trhough a neighborhood but the small wood structures are still standing. Is this typical?
If we are thinking of the same pictures, those cracks are due to large-scale landsliding that was triggered by the shaking. A subsurface layer of “quick clay” in the Turnagain Heights area liquified, causing the ground above to slide seaward, opening up cracks in the process.
Well-constructed wood-frame buildings, especially ones with diagonal cross-bracing in the walls or sheet plywood nailed across the studs, are quite resistant to collapse in earthquakes. They may be severely damaged, but they rarely collapse. Loss of life is small, unless fire occurs.
The worst buildings are masonry — stone, adobe, brick. All that really holds the building elements together is gravity — mortar is quite weak. So upward or lateral thrusts cause the bricks to separate, causing the building to collapse.
My family got out six months before the Alaska quake. Our house, which had been two and 1/2 blocks from the bluffs overlooking Cook inlet, suffered a large crack in the concrete basement, and is now one block from the bluffs. I am not a geologist, but liquefaction was a major factor in Anchorage.
One of my closest friends kept going back into his swallowed by a crevasse house to rescue younger siblings. During his last rescue mission, the earth swallowed him in the house. National Geo wrote it all up.
Had my family stayed in Alaska, I might have been playing at his house that day. One of those forks in life…
My deepest empathy for those poor Chileans. I hope that our rescue efforts are more about rescuing than putting a military prescence in that country.
Press Release from the Humboldt County Sheriffs Office:
Date Released: 2/27/2010
Subject: Tsunami Advisory
Contact: Brenda Godsey, PIO
Case No#: N/A
Released By: Brenda Godsey
Location: Humboldt County
The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center has issued a Tsunami Advisory for the entire West Coast, including Humboldt County. The first waves are expected to arrive in Humboldt Bay at approximately 1:30 p.m. Although no significant coastal flooding is expected to be produced by these waves, some areas could experience dangerous currents and surges (particularly in bays and harbors) due to this tsunami. Citizens are advised to remember the following:
• Stay off the beaches and out of the harbors and marinas from 1:00 p.m. until tomorrow.
• Significant, widespread coastal flooding is not expected to occur. The impact of this tsunami will be stronger than normal currents and possible higher than normal surges along the beaches.
• There will be a strong outgoing tidal current at the same time the tsunami arrives. The combined affect could produce very strong currents in harbors and bays.
• A Tsunami event is a series of waves that can last for several hours. The first wave is usually not the strongest.
• Remember: the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center has only issued a Tsunami Advisory for the North Coast – not a Tsunami Warning.
The Bootlegger Cove clay, which underlies much of Anchorage, is what is called a “quick clay”. The clay is made of little flat platelets that but against one another rather like a house of cards. The space between the “cards” is filled with water. When strongly shaken, the house-of-cards structure collapses, the water is forced out, and the clay liquifies.
In Anchorage, the liquified clay squirted laterally toward the harbor, causing subsidence of the ground above, or, as at Turnagain Heights, a huge landslide. That crevasse your friend went into was a big landslide crack. He would have been buried when the upslope wall collapsed.
live Hawaii coverage
http://rawstory.com/2010/02/huge-earthquake-hits-chile-47-dead/
scroll down
this is kinda scary
the tsunami just passed by Hilo, Hawaii.
check Kathy’s link above.
I say thanks for the science.
Filibuster, is it my imagination, or have we been seeing an unusual amount of strong earthquake activity in recent months? Humboldt, Haiti, China-Russia, Japan, Chile…What is a average amount of seismic activity in a given month, worldwide?
Four distinct waves at Hilo so far.
Muse:
Here’s the details of annual earthquake over several years as well as the number of each group of magnitude. Only about 1 of the Chili size occurs each year, but about 17 of the size that Haiti experienced. In 1999 the world saw damaging earthquakes in Turkey, Mexico, Taiwan, and people were predicting the end of the world (you know 2000 and all). The world experienced experienced fewer than 17 that year. We are about two months into this year with 3 mag. 7-7.9s. Looks like an average year.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php
Yep, although I don’t know that they’d really be called “waves”. More like a tsunami action, with the water being drawn to sea and then coming back in again.
And did anyone else notice the government (DOT) vehicle down at what appeared to be a waterfront parking spot, or dock or some such? They’re sitting there right near the water, or so it looked in the video, waiting to see what was gonna happen. Real bright, if I saw what I think I saw.
Reminds me of a TV show on the Hilo wave I saw some years ago. Some scientist from the US Geological Survey, or NOAA, or whatever went down to take pictures of the tsunami. He goes to the middle of some bridge over a river and starts taking pictures and the wave gets him and he dies.
They find his camera a quarter mile up river and actually were able to save the pictures he took. Nice to have the pictures, but you’d think he’d know better. Same with the guys in the car watching the water right now.
People did the same thing in Crescent City in the 64 tsunami, Fred. It’s the Darwin effect.
Earthquake occurrence is statistical. In any year, sometimes you get more than the average, sometimes fewer. Personally, I don’t think we’re seeing anything unusual, just seeing normal variation.
For the period 1990-2010 the USGS gives the following worldwide annual averages:
Magnitude annual avg # earthquakes
8 or larger 1 (1900-2010)
7-7.9 17
6-6.9 134
5-5.9 1319
4-4.9 13000
Source:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php
This link gives no of earthquakes by magnitude for each year from 2000 – 2010. The current pattern doesn’t appear unusual. There are interesting graphs that link to that page.
I should note that many magnitude 5 and greater earthquakes occur far from population centers, and are thus not noted except by seismologists. It’s the occurrence of large quakes near populated areas that brings them to our attention.
For those of you who may be interested:
Dr Lori Dengler of the HSU Geology Dept will speak on
“Crescent City: The Tsunami Mecca of the Lower 48″
Time: Monday, March 1, 5-6 PM
Place: Founders Hall 25, HSU campus
All are welcome. It should be pretty interesting.
If these earthquakes are not unusual they sure are feeling personal. I, me, personally spent way too long in a wiggly house that was creaking and moving and making terrible noises. Today my friend in Hawaii talked on the phone as she described the tides as the ocean changed colors… But you know, we are , today, all ok.
Thank you filibuster for your many explanations and that one about the clay in Turnagain. How our beagle Lana used to love to escape and run off to the mudflats, to wallow in those smelly clays.
Your explanation of my friend’s demise makes perfect sense, I shall have to find the National Geo article to see how far my oral history has strayed from the reporting of the time, as memories will do.
Are there areas around the Bay, here, that are susceptible to any kind of liquefaction effects?
Go this site and you can see the tsunami arrival at each station. The record is a bit behind, but you can see the tsunami in the Santa Monica report (about 2 feet) – residual difference between normal tide and what is being recorded.
http://tidesonline.noaa.gov/geographic.html
Also on some of the Hawaii tide records:
http://tidesonline.noaa.gov/geographic.html
Anonymous 3:32 thanks for posting the tide gage links for everyone.
You can see the tsunami at both North Spit
http://tidesonline.nos.noaa.gov/plotcomp.shtml?station_info=9418767
and Crescent City
http://tidesonline.nos.noaa.gov/plotcomp.shtml?station_info=9419750
Look at the green line. The tsunami at North Spit is less than a foot, while peak to trough at Crescent City is around 2 ft. The CC harbor always amplifies tsunami effects.
Olmanriver — to the best of my knowledge, we don’t have quick clays in the Humboldt Bay area. But we do have water-saturated sands that will liquefy when vibrated. You’ll find them beneath the spits, along the margins of the Bay, and around the mouths of the major rivers, especially the Eel. After earthquakes, sandblows (small volcano-like eruptions of wet sand) have been found north of Centerville Beach and on the Humboldt Bay spits. Shaking could also cause compaction of saturated sands and clays.
If we had a really sizable earthquake, the major highways around the Bay — 101 between Arcata and Eureka, 255 between Arcata and Samoa would probably be impassible due to differential subsidence. I would expect road disruption also in the entire Eel delta, the King Salmon – Fields Landing area, the area between Freshwater, Bayside, and the Bay, and probably the Mad River Bottoms.
Chile photos via Boston.com.
Sir, you are a hero of information, thank you.
As was pointed out on CNN in an interview, any city has buildings built under a variety of code requirements. The person being interviewed said that most of the recent buildings survived with relatively light damage. Small wood buildings, if they were braced, also did pretty well. Older buildings, 20+ years old, didn’t do so well. It may also be partly the result of lax enforcement in early years there. Speaking of that, is your building retrofitted yet?
The Bayshore Mall suffered some liquifaction damage in our recent quake. It is on the same sort of old fill land that the Balloon Tract is. A megathrust quake would probably do major damage at either spot for that reason. Of course, in that event, we’re all in trouble!
Sure enough. Filibuster, the tides exceeded the prediction, but note that was a day before the earthquake.
…so the Marina center should not be built because of the liquifaction?
I thought this thread was doing really well until THAT comment…
With regard to structures, liquefaction can be dealt with through proper foundation engineering. One strategy is to sink long piles down through the layers subject to liquefaction and into solider stuff beneath. Recent tall buildings in downtown San Francisco were built this way, since much of the downtown area is underlain by water-saturated bay mud, stream deposits, and artificial fill. This is expensive, however.
Liquefaction is an issue for the property. Deal with it.
Liquefaction is the reason that piles were driven to a depth of 100 – 120 ft last summer for the new 101 Mad River bridge.
There still is no real comprehensive site to go to for information during a real emergency in Humboldt. Government sites have nothing but an eight inch long URL. during the last Earthquake, all the sites I checked out had information from years ago.
During the last two emergencies, only the local blogs worked as ‘bulletin boards’ for information on what was actually happening on the ground.
I’m really surprised how completely useless regular news sites like the Times Standard, or The Journal, or KMUD.org (I love the Mud) or KHSU.org are in times of trouble.
Thanks to the FCC policies that have given us hundreds and hundreds of radio stations and tv station, that have no regional alliance.
We really need to rebuild a local/regional presence on the web and on the tv.
All this new technology has done is centralize profits. Local media is more than just ‘home-town flavor’
Ok I’m done, let the insults fly.
The Humboldt Herald was the first to publish warning of the tsunami advisory following the quake in Chile, beating the Times-Standard by nearly 1.5 hours.
Eric Kirk just posted to his blog that he participated in today’s Perilous Plunge into Humboldt Bay without knowing there was a tsunami advisory.
I guess if they did that on the Balloon Tract, it would be the Home DEEEEEPot?
Sorry. That refered to 6:59.
Off topic: The North Coast Journal online won’t load. Did the Journal go under?
Heraldo wrote, “The Humboldt Herald was the first to publish warning of the tsunami advisory following the quake in Chile, beating the Times-Standard by nearly 1.5 hours.”
Except I woke up to the news this morning. The only reason I didn’t run with it, was I figured you would.
No reason to make a post that you most likely might also make.
“Did the NCJ go under?” Dare to dream.
That assumes the only people who read your blog also read the Herald, and that they wouldn’t enjoy an info exchange at your place.
I would have posted it even if you had done so first.
So it’s decided then; Blogs are the only thing that can save mankind. During Katrina, a Blogger was there. During the Earthquakes, a Blogger was there, Blogging has saved lives, reunited families. I say: not only are corporations people; Blogs are people to.
News – If you were first come, first serve, chances are that the only accurate information one would have received was 8.8. Other than that, the information has been all over the place putting into question accuracy.
I will say this – the Tsunami siren blasting on the news looked as if there were feathers falling out? Poor bird.
Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville – 5th District
Thanks Filibuster and anonymous; that’s great info. That has been a great thread.
Off to go check the rotation of my supply cabinet…
Moviedad,
FREE BLOGS are more efficient than subsidized government agencies too! Oh, The Pain!
Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville – 5th District
The major difference that makes blogs much worse than news agencies:
Blogs choke you with unverified hearsay, opinion and supposition backed up by “information” found on someone else’s website;
News agencies wait to give you information until they have at least attempted to verify it with knowledgeable or official sources.
H, those of us in touch with reality knew about the quake and tsunami on Friday night. We do not need your blog insulting our intelligence by claiming to have “broken” the news in some way. The only information being given out here is the same thing over and over, and it’s all from the same sources that the T-S used. So why should we bother going here when the T-S’ site has the same information only verified by a person who isn’t so cowardly as to hide behind a fake name, but also has sports, entertainment, op/ed, business, and local news?
Unlike you, H, I can run into one of the T-S peeps on the street and strike up a friendly conversation because they are open about who they are and what they do.
I hope Savage Henry ruins you publicly.
So people talking about the power poles falling down in their neighborhood, and a lack of emergency response is just “hearsay”? I’ll take the hearsay over the edited and ‘censored-for-content,’ pronouncements from FEMA any day. By the way, when exactly does FEMA release information during a disaster? I trust my neighbors way more than I trust feds and governmental responders that bring trigger-happy private security firms and M-4′s instead of water and meds. The local emergency people go all out to help their people. The Blackwaters, and the FEMA’s, seemed to care more about so called: “Looting” than they did about people. How many people where shot during Katrina for “Looting”? How is gathering food and medicine looting?
Without the blogs, we wouldn’t even know about those killed by drunk Blackwater ‘Guards’ shooting randomly from a bridge at people in chest-deep water. My priest was on the roof of a school in New Orleans for three days. I got an earful from him. Blogs connect people to people on the ground, in real time. You can go on to the Astro Dome, I’ll take my chances with the locals.
I must say that I agree about Anonymity. There are very, very few instances when anonymity is anything more than cowardice…which brings me to your name; how hard it must have been for you growing up.
10:46 am,
just like KSLG and a few other radio stations saying warnong instead of advisory.
Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville – 5th District
My moronic spelling meant “warning”.
JL
Good thing I don’t claim to have “broken” the news or I’d risk upsetting “Moron.”
For someone who doesn’t want to “bother” with this blog, it’s hilarious that “moron” bothered to rant on it.
from ground zero on the Big Island…my wife and I were there. It was handled very well by the local police/civil service and we spent the day driving around the island while listeneing to the local radio stations with the play-by-play of Hilo Bay. The locals had fun watching the waves and enjoying the sunny day. It was nice that nothing happened and no one was hurt. only bummer was beaches closed for 12+ hours…
just imagine how scary it would have been for those who experienced the incident. this reminds me of what happened 2 years back in thailand. i wonder what UN is doing something about this. this year seems to be filled with tragedies. first the haiti earthquake and I wonder what’s gonna happen next but I pray nothing bad will come