Dennis Mayo.
Tuesday’s KMUD news reported on the July 22nd Humboldt County Planning Commission meeting which focused on the General Plan Update (GPU).
Commissioner Ralph Faust expressed frustration by complaints that Southern Humboldt residents aren’t included in the Update process. He asked how the Commission can reach out to people who don’t read newspapers or listen to the radio, don’t have email, don’t go to the library or communicate with county staff or use the internet.
“There is some supposition in government that the public will pay some attention to something,” Faust said. “If they are totally disconnected from any form of media then it’s going to be hard for them to know in any sense what government is doing in any of its branches, in any of its actions.”
SoHum resident Tom Grover said outlying residents would be helped by printed materials and handouts made available in various outlets.
Commissioner Dennis Mayo then piped up with a seemingly sideways suggestion that “maybe we can get [printouts] into the 215 clinics.”
Of course! The reason rural residents can’t stay abreast of the GPU is they’re busy updating their Prop. 215 recommendations which allow use of medical marijuana.
Mayo’s HumCPR supporters must be overjoyed by that insinuation.
That was an attempt at humor as i saw it Dennis has a refreshing and honest perspective and his comment should be taken as such. The sky is falling attempts at journalism is tiresome.
He is not one of us so let’s trash him. Any reason will do.
Buffalo Bill tries Henny Youngman.
Q. Youngman or Mayo?
My dad was the town drunk. Most of the time that’s not so bad; but New York City?
My grandmother is over eighty and still doesn’t need glasses. Drinks right out of the bottle.
My other brother-in-law died. He was a karate expert, then joined the army. The first time he saluted, he killed himself.
My son complains about headaches. I tell him all the time, when you get out of bed, it’s feet first!
My wife dresses to kill. She cooks the same way.
She has a wash and wear bridal gown.
She’s a big-hearted girl with hips to match.
She’s been married so many times she has rice marks on her face.
Some people ask the secret of our long marriage. We take time to go to a restaurant two times a week. A little candlelight, dinner, soft music and dancing. She goes Tuesdays, I go Fridays.
Take my wife… Please!
I’ve got a wacky idea. Why don’t we try following the public outreach rules of the General Plan? They actually worked, and they resulted in a Plan that was completed in less than four years with no controversy.
The rules are in the 1500 series now being thrown out of the Update. They’re still current rules, but as Mark pointed out on the radio a few weeks ago, we ignore lots of our own rules when we follow the General Plan. Oh well.
It’s almost interesting how determined the Heraldos are to denigrate Dennis Mayo. He’s defended by most people who actually attend meetings. But then, Ralph Faust is considered a wack-job ideologue by many who attend meetings. Thanks for his latest fine example of inane generalizing.
But Longy, I like Buffalo Bill and Henny Youngman.
No denigration intended by my comment. Not so sure about Mayo’s.
I thought the 215 comment was funny!
Ralph Faust has about as much charisma as Tad.
Sohum residents don’t listen to the radio? Huh…has Faust never heard of KMUD?
Looks to me like Mayo’s comment was a lame attempt at humor…while Faust’s comments were a serious attempt at stereotyping. Dumb and Dumber.
Mayo is a tool, he is proving it time and time again, jeez Dennis you are really making me want to buy into you views and forced propaganda regarding the GPU and the MLPA, you representing the people use your head man.
I think some of the quotes from the Commissioners have been taken out of context. From my perspective, Mr. Faust was attempting to respond to the plethora of comments from the Realtor/Developer crowd plus one or two SoHummers regarding the perceived lack of GPU information available and opportunity for public input. Mr. Mayo was attempting to be humorous. Everyone can watch the meeting and interpret for themselves.
I have an idea–why don’t people spend an hour or two reading the sections they are interested in and then submitting a comment? It’d take less time, and be a lot more effective, than spending all this time complaining that there aren’t enough meetings.
It’d be nice if the Planning Commissioners would all read the GPU and comment on it, rather than the bazillion irrelevant tangents they insist on taking. It’s pretty clear that many of them are opposed to medical MJ and will not accept the fact that it’s legal now. The County Counsel keeps telling them that they can weigh in on it as a land use issue, but Nelson, Smith, and Mayo just don’t get it.
Complaining about the lack of meetings is a tactic to slow it down, till they’re beloved Virginia and Ryan are elected and can tip the balance there way, they think.
Jeff Smith’s too busy making money from his rentals with illegal grows in Eureka(ie. near Lowel and Harris).
“See through it”
I don’t doubt that. Now would you agree that the recent push from the Board of Supes to suddenly speed up the timetable on the GPU to get it done before the end of the year is a tactic to ram it through before (they fear) Neeley might lose her seat to Bass and Sundberg might win in the 5th? Can you “see through” the tactics on both sides, or just one side?
I was at that hearing, covering it for the Redwood Times, and I broke reportorial silence to point out that both SoHum newspapers and KMUD have extensively covered the GPU hearings. Also, copies of the original draft plan, housing element, and draft maps were placed in the Garberville Library, service districts offices, and the Redwood Times office two years ago. Copiesof the alternative comparison charts for Land Use Designations and the next 4 elements to be considred that I am putting in the G’ville library today.
I sympathize with internet difficulties of rural residents, but it’s utter crap that they have no way of finding out what’s going on. There’s more coverage of this issue in SoHum than in any other part of the county. Not to mention all the HumCPR stuff! plenty of which has also appeared in the local papers and on KMUD. ANd even people without high-speed internet have friends who do. There’s plenty of information out there for people who pay attention.
What I see is a group of people (not from SoHum) who speak at every hearing, say the same thing every time — frequently including “not enough public participation!” — as a way of slowing the process to a crawl so that the current GP will stay in effect as long as possible, which is what they want — Option D. Talk about political manuvering! These same people were excoriating the staff three years ago for not speeding up the process. And by the way, some of those folks, now solid Hum CPR people, were cheering back at the TPZ moratorium hearings in the fall of 2007 when Bruce Emad was calling for stronger code enforcement and heavier penalties instead of restricting the rights of TPZ owners.
Virginia,
I think there’s certainly some truth to your remarks about the motivation of some of the folks who are complaining that the process, at this point, is too speeded-up, and that public input is being limited. But like I said at 10:44, I think the other side is also attempting to “game the system” to their own benefit by pushing an accelerated timetable to try to bring it to a vote before the new Board of Supes takes office next year.
Perhaps it’s only coincidental that the Board got interested in speeding up the process right about the time that it became clear to Option A advocates that there was a real possibility that Neeley might lose to Bass and Sundberg had a chance of winning in the 5th, but I and many others tend to doubt that it IS mere coincidence.
I’d say “let the games begin,” but I think they already have…it’s kinda like it’s halftime and both sides are trying to influence who will be the referees for the second half, wanting of course, to have a majority of refs that they think might be more inclined to rule their way.
By the way, I personally prefer Neeley to Bass (for a number of reasons, mainly that I don’t get the impression that Bass is all that well-informed, nor does she seem to have the intellectual curiosity to become better-informed), and I prefer Cleary to Sundberg (largely due to Sundberg’s .16 DUI and his clumsy attempts to minimize it), even though Bass and Sundberg might come closer to represent my own feelings about the GPU and related issues.
The GPU is an important issue, but not the only one that people are thinking of when they vote for a Supervisor candidate, which is why I still think there ought to be some kind of up-or-down vote (even an advisory referendum, if that’s the best we can get) on whatever final plan the Supervisors come up with.
I meant to say “there ought to be some kind of up-or-down BALLOT MEASURE…”
Just a couple months ago Virginia Bass — and presumably her supporters, which includes the head honcho of HumCPR — were complaining about the slow General Plan Update process. Now, suddenly, many of the same people want to hit the breaks.
And just a few months ago, the majority of the Supes didn’t seem concerned at all with the time-frame. Now, suddenly, these same Supes want to get it all done before the new Board is seated. You really can’t see the gamesmanship on both sides?
I don’t think that’s true.
Bass’s complaints about the slow GPU process were obviously just talking points so she could complain about Neely during the debates. Those points were revealed as BS when she told the Journal that she hasn’t “thought in detail” about the GPU.
“I don’t think that’s true.”
Well, let me put it this way. Lots of people complained about how long the process was taking, but whatever their own feelings, the Supes didn’t demonstrate their “concern” with how long the GPU was taking until they suddenly ordered the Planning Commission to speed things up on a greatly-accelerated time frame, which just happened to (?) coincide with getting it done before the new board would be seated, and their decision to speed things up just happened to (?) coincide with that point in time when people began to realize that Neeley might lose to Bass.
Again, you’ll get no argument from me that GPU opponents (or at least opponents of Option A) are trying to stall things now that they think they have a chance to replace Neeley with Bass, while Sundberg wins the 5th (I actually doubt both these will happen, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility). My point is that Option A proponents fear precisely the same possibility and are themselves attempting to game the system by suddenly getting all concerned with timing and the “need” to ram it through before the end of the year. To me, both examples of gamesmanship are equally obvious.
Another possibility is speeding up the process negates one of Bass’ criticisms of Neely (the slow process of the GPU) and puts Bass in the unenviable position of arguing against getting it done asap.
The Humboldt Mirror fraternity may not be smart, but we love Bass, heavy on the Mayo!
Cardiomyopathic hugs!!!
Where are you?
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HAHA Moderate! I watched until it claimed that far left is total govt. control and far right is no govt at all. Absurd Libertarian propaganda.
This is a much better test for where you are politically.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
I think its a mirage to say the board is acting primarily politicaly. Until Rodoni and Wooley were out, and Clendenon and Lovelace were in, the board had decided to implement option D, by “benign neglect”. And it sent a go slow message to the planning commission. The current board has a majority that is more honest, willing to be accountable for their choces, and frankly realizes that the interest of HumCo residents is better served by making affirmative universal decisions rather than doing public business privately through whispers, winks, and personal exceptions.
The current board majority is also more patriotic. They’re dedicated to an effective government that increases public participation and confidence. The seditionists want an ineffective weak government that reduces the public’s desire to use collective action to identify and solve systemic problems, of which HumCo has a built up a large supply over the years.
They’re dedicated to an effective government that increases public participation and confidence.
HA!
I can understand Councilman’s Dennis Mayo’s frustration but don’t lose hope now. I predict in future this will turn around. If it’s anything like in Florida folks become disconnected because government is out of sync with its citizens, economy, and the constitution. Nothing works when just a few get their way while disregarding the majority. Especially when city hall is rigged not broken; I predict when folks see that government works better when one participates to make changes from within; it works for everyone. In example, this cannabis thing folks will note if it works for that I’m sure folks will see that a Marina is much better than a jail or a Wal-Mart. Of course it helps when everyone participating is of reasonable character and of sound mind with the common goal to govern for what is good for the general public instead of wondering if in step with the bible.
“I’m sure folks will see that a Marina is much better than a jail or a Wal-Mart.”
Future resident seems to be confused. There is nothing to prevent the Marina Center from including a Walmart. The Marina Center is not marina related, although it’s understandable why people, especially “future residents,” would think it is given its name and location.
It’s just a strip mall with the name Marina Center. Nothing exciting, just a way to kill some local businesses and top off an old railroad yard’s toxic sludge. The developer is a “local boy” who “knows what is good for us”!
tra,
good thing voters can “write-in” a selection or choice.
Inevitably, up in the 5th District, I shall be writing in a selection. Too sad that money got so deep and entrenched in the local elections. Yes, very sad indeed!
Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville – 5th District
I fear the GPU process is not even close to summarizing the socio/economic problems in America. In reality, the GPU may not be used to its perceived “full uses”. Why? Bankruptcy and debt! America is “fried chicken” when it depends on the next generations to “make up all the liabilities and debts” borne by the elders!
Game Over! Now, back to the jobless recovery argument.
Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville – 5th District
What a stupid headline- honestly. Yeah, and everyone from Eureka is a drunk, Mickyvillians are all meth-users too!
Christ- I have lived in big cities and small towns all over this country. Heres a BIG secret!: Pot is used pretty much everywhere!
No more prevalent here than anywhere else.
I guess its the only way to get folks to read the article?
I’d give him the benefit of the doubt that it’s just a lame joke rather than stereotyping sarcasm. Still, it doesn’t make for good PR.
As to the question at hand, I think they addressed it by holding a meeting down here. We filled the Redway School auditorium and everybody else and his grandmother listened on KMUD.
The problem is that nobody was really paying attention prior to the code enforcement abuses. Now several organizations are paying attention, and they’ll get the word out.
The world is run by people who show up.