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This is what interest in Occupy Eureka looks like

Since the Humboldt Herald first featured a post on the Occupy Wall Street movement, reader interest has been high.

But the raid on Occupy Eureka early Monday morning — and the subsequent retaking of the courthouse lawn Monday night — drew heavy traffic, far exceeding any recent 24-hour cycle.

  1. skippy
    November 8, 2011 at 2:33 am

    Doesn’t surprise me with 512 comments in less than a week. Reader interest is high. Enquiring minds and skip want to know.

  2. Ponder z
    November 8, 2011 at 5:41 am

    Most comments are dialogue between blog hogs. So what, most people I know have some sentiment for the cause. But, would never be associated with the marxist agenda and anarchist attitude of the protesters. When you take those two issues out of the show, you have the Tea Party.

  3. humboldt turtle
    November 8, 2011 at 7:19 am

    We’re just watchin’ the E-P-D. They are scary.

  4. Daniel 2X
    November 8, 2011 at 7:23 am

    Why is the Harpham family exempt from the City of Eureka’s anti nepotism policies?

  5. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 7:56 am

    I am confused by the lack of ongoing coverage of Kayvan Sabehgi, the Iraq and Afghanistan war vet and small businessman whose spleen was ruptured by law enforcement batons while he was allegedly returning home. He claims he was just trying to get to his home, which a friend says you could see from the spot where he was beaten by law enforcement. He lay in a jail cell for hours after his bail had been made, because he was in too much pain to get up. No ambulance was called until 6PM, which sounds to me a lot like it might represent a shift change to a more competent staffer.

    I’ve heard that KTVU had video from before the beating, showing a peaceful Sabehgi talking to officers, and from after the beating, showing him on the ground. I guess KTVU cameras don’t like recording violence.

    Shouldn’t his story be ongoing national news? Is his name harder to pronounce than Olsen? What’s going on?

  6. Dan
    November 8, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Ponder

    “marxist agenda and anarchist attitude”

    Since when did asking for fairness, transparency
    and sustainability from our financial sector become
    Marxist or Anarchist?
    Bringing light to our situation is a responsible act.

  7. Dan
    November 8, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Mitch, Kayvan Sabehgi Live Blog | Al Jazeera Blogs.

    “There was a group of police in front of me,” he told the Guardian from his hospital bed. “They told me to move, but I was like: ‘Move to where?’ There was nowhere to move.

    “Then they lined up in front of me. I was talking to one of them, saying ‘Why are you doing this?’ when one moved forward and hit me in my arm and legs and back with his baton. Then three or four cops tackled me and arrested me.”

    Sabeghi, who left the army in 2007 and now part-owns a small bar-restaurant in El Cerrito, about 10 miles north of Oakland, said he was handcuffed and placed in a police van for three hours before being taken to jail. By the time he got there he was in “unbelievable pain”.

    He said: “My stomach was really hurting, and it got worse to the point where I couldn’t stand up.

    “I was on my hands and knees and crawled over the cell door to call for help.”

  8. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 8:31 am

    The difference between the Tea Party and Occupy is that one is protesting for entrenched corporate power and their agenda and the other against it. The Tea Party has bought the “big lie” that poor people wrecked the economy, that lower taxes and less regulation is the only way to fix it. Occupiers know the truth, that bankers and corporations wrecked the economy using the political power they bought with campaign contributions to set the stage. Occupiers understand that you can’t fix something by doing the same thing you did to wreck it. The Tea Party understands nothing but they have a black man in the White House and Rush says he’s a racist, Marxist, socialist, Muslim Kenyan terrorist. They don’t even know that their taxes are lower today than they have been since 1980. When your “news” source is a corporate “big lie” machine, you can’t be expected to have a realistic view of our problems or their solutions.

  9. November 8, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Interest like watching a demolition derby…

  10. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Martha (Sarah Shevett) did you mean to write “interesting” but were so anxious to get your pithy remark posted that you couldn’t waste time adding the “ing?”

  11. November 8, 2011 at 9:13 am

    “We’re just watchin’ the E-P-D. They are scary.”
    Eurekan’s are getting a home demonstration as to what Chief Harpham means by “tough cop.” I got an idea, for what that’s worth, before this is over it is going to get a lot scarier. There’s a lot of suppressed anger out there.

  12. 69er
    November 8, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Just why is it that the only time anyone wants a cop is when it is for them??? Any time a police officer does his or her job and it does not suit someones fancy all they do is pitch a bitch. The law is the law and in this case I feel that merle let it go on too long before taking action. He gave them every chance posible to do what was right and they refused and payed the price as it should be. I am behind him all the way.

  13. Emily A.
    November 8, 2011 at 10:01 am

    69er, what makes you think that “merle” is capable of making any decisions at all? Maybe that is the problem.

    Have you seen any of his recent video interviews? ROFLMAO.

  14. Goldie
    November 8, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Mitch, It is my opinion that the main stream media does not cover the veterans because their presence and statements are so powerful. It is better for their agenda to film the ‘outcasts”, to make it appear as if there is nothing noble in OWS. I have heard that the police in Oakland target vets and consider them traitors now siding with the unwashed masses.
    Below is an NYPD response to Sargent Shamar Thomas who stopped the show by stating that there way no honor in hurting unarmed citizens, people he fought to protect the freedom of while in Iraq
    ” look no further than NYPD Rant, where one commenter asks, “There is no honor in what? Posturing in front of the camera in a self righteous rant specifically to taunt the Police into a confrontation and when the Police kindly ask you to move on, saying to the cameras ‘they scared’ is honorable? Listen guy, if indeed you were in Iraq serving our country than thank you but shut the fck up and show a little respect to our uniform and stay out of the street, stop blocking the sidewalk and keep moving when we tell you to.”
    I found this at: http://gothamist.com/2011/10/17/video_marine_sergeant_tears_cops_a.php

  15. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 10:09 am

    I know 69er! What’s wrong with people who want the cops to arrest criminals but don’t want them busting the heads (and spleens) of protesters? What sort of country have we become when people get upset when cops shoot veterans in the face and brutally beat someone for asking them a question? I’m outraged by such hypocrisy! Either you stand behind cops 100% no matter what they do or you are a cop hater who shouldn’t be allowed to report a crime. Right?

  16. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Interesting, Goldie. I wonder how much of our decline is related to TV? The newspapers just didn’t have the same propaganda impact that TV does, despite their publishers’ best efforts. Though wasn’t the Spanish American war started by Hearst?

    It’ll be a good dissertation topic in the 22nd century, if the species makes it there.

  17. Jethro Bodeen
    November 8, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Who cares? I just wanna know if the next rally will be a catered event? Will there be a meat dish or will I have to cover my toe-foo in kechup again?

  18. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 10:42 am

    The law is the law and in this case I feel that merle let it go on too long before taking action.

    The law is the law and Eureka’s citizens regularly pay for the city’s violations of it. Time will tell whether this enforcement action was legal.

    I wish some “law and order” types would stand up for the law for a change, instead of for its violation. The Constitution of the United States is very protective of Americans’ right to protest.

  19. Goldie
    November 8, 2011 at 10:50 am

    TV has created a culture of consumerism. In a nation where you are what you buy, powerlessness comes into being because the purchase is celebrated, not the person, not the action, not the thought. The purpose of TV is to sell not to inform and control not through facts but confusion. What we see now is corporations protecting their interests by confusing and degrading the issues at hand. One interesting book is: Consumed: How Markets Corrupt Children, Infantilize Adults, and Swallow Citizens Whole
    So I ask you not why you may feel that big banks are controlling our government and ruining our economy, dashing the hopes of hardworking families but rather if you pooped or peed on the bank.

  20. jr
    November 8, 2011 at 10:55 am

    This is true. Television program only exists to keep the commercials from running together. Another book to read is Jerry Mander’s “Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television” published in 1976.

  21. tra
    November 8, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Television is just a medium. The problem is in the content, not the medium.

  22. November 8, 2011 at 11:08 am

    I killed my television in 2003 and I have never looked back.

    Although I don’t discriminate against people who still watch television I do find that most of the people who are my friends also no longer watch television.

    The television experience is almost totally passive. You are induced into a trance and then shit is pumped non-stop into your head.

    Since I rarely sit and watch tv I was astonished recently when I spent a few hours watching tv at some friend’s house. I saw probably thousands of images of beautiful women (and some beautifiul men) lots of images of products to buy, and lots of images of things to fear, all flashed in rapid cinema style on the screen.

    What do you see?

    If you watch tv and you don’t think that television is addictive, then I challenge you to disconnect the cable for a week. I don’t think that most of you can do it. But if you can, maybe you will get the chance and the time to really talk to that person you sleep with every night.

    Television is the new opiate of the people.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  23. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Goldie,

    Really well put. Since I’m not a conspiracy theorist, the part I don’t get is how we end up with supposed reporters pursuing the trivial over the significant.

    There used to be commercial support for better news operations, CBS in the 50s and 60s spent a lot on serious reporting. Perhaps the advertisers discovered or decided they weren’t getting more customers by sponsoring substance.

    Still, you’d think once someone had a job at a TV station, they’d want to contribute to an intelligent discussion of our times. I’m not asking everyone to turn into Bill Moyers, but it seems like people are aiming for the lowest common denominator.

  24. tra
    November 8, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Don’t get me wrong, television content is 99% horsecrap, a large portion of that horsecrap is straight-up propaganda and there’s every reason not to bother watching any of it.

  25. tra
    November 8, 2011 at 11:15 am

    “…it seems like people are aiming for the lowest common denominator.”

    Seems like? I don’t think there’s any doubt about it.

  26. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 11:15 am

    “The Constitution of the United States is very protective of Americans’ right to protest.”

    You’d think the only wake up call anybody’d need to understand how the people are kept under lockdown is how blatantly law enforcement is VERY strict about not allowing people to gather in public OR private. “Move along, nothing to see hear, you’re all in violation, no permits were paid for and we’ll make sure none are issued etc”

    It’s important to keep in mind that nobody really participates on these blogs, or even know they exist or care. Real life is happening in the flesh, people overwhelmingly support the protesters and their message.

    Good on you who are out there for us all!

  27. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 11:18 am

    tra,

    TV is far worse than other media. It is more immersive, and the pictures pumped into our minds have a much greater effect than radio or newspapers. Even with radio, our minds are forced to do some processing.

    But advertisers have probably also found ways to improve their radio and newspaper propaganda as well.

    The last related thing I read was that tobacco companies are able to use packaging color and wording to suggest healthier cigarettes. Apparently, where use of the term “lite” is banned, they’ve discovered that “silver” works as well. Lighter packaging is also associated with healthier cigarettes.

    To me, the discoveries about how easily we are manipulated are scary. Changing the wording of most poll questions in very subtle ways substantially changes the poll’s outcome. Priming a person with a number before asking them a question in a context totally unrelated to the number shifts a persons answer in the direction of the number. The placebo effect even works when you tell people you’re giving them nothing but a sugar pill. (That’s the strangest result I’ve heard so far — the nocebo.)

    The advertisers know all this, and so do the people selling us politics. That’s how we manage to keep electing people who then work against our interests.

  28. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Screw blogs,

    Thanks for your nonexisting comment. You’re right, it has no impact.

    Your nonexistent reader.

  29. November 8, 2011 at 11:27 am

    My interpretation of what Screw Blogs was saying:

    The revolution will not be bloggerized.

    If you really want to effect change you are going to have to put your body on the line like the people in the movement are doing right now. Blogging all by itself won’t get it done.

    That’s what I think s(he) is saying.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  30. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Off to the barricades, then!!!

  31. Decline To State
    November 8, 2011 at 11:29 am

    I miss Garr Nielsen.

  32. Decline To State
    November 8, 2011 at 11:30 am

    I pay no attention to any media where I can’t filter the content.

  33. jr
    November 8, 2011 at 11:32 am

    I gave up TV in 1985 and consequently have not seen any political advertising since candidates usually do not use print or radio to get their message out. Never saw an Obama or McCain ad or any ad for or against any of the various propositions.

  34. Eap Eap a Deap
    November 8, 2011 at 11:32 am

    YOU miss Garr Neilsen? So do 3/4 of the EPD! My God.

  35. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 11:35 am

    “To me, the discoveries about how easily we are manipulated are scary.”

    A subject I’ve dealt with inside and out, way too much. The knowledge is simultaneously a gift and a curse. The internet is television reinvented. A million times the influence at zero cost. They’ve even got people thinking they should have to PAY for computers and the internet. They’ve turned countless disinterested people into their own interactive advertisements. All it takes is one desk monkey covering 100 blogs per day, 5 days a week, working for a business that sells your business’s agenda and guarantees results.

    …we’ve got some papers for you to sign on the way out. Formalities, just to make sure you don’t talk about any of this off the clock, so to speak.

  36. Dan
    November 8, 2011 at 11:37 am

    “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation.
    It is the opium of the people.”
    Karl 1843

    “Television is the new opiate of the people.”
    Bill 2011

    Karl would probably agree with Bill.

  37. November 8, 2011 at 11:46 am

    “All it takes is one desk monkey covering 100 blogs per day, 5 days a week”

    Hmmm well that explains the High Finance phenomenon anyway.

    Thanks!

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  38. November 8, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Screw Blogs,

    It is possible that you are right that the internet is as addictive or more addictive than television. It is interacitve though if you choose to use it that way, while tv is totally passive. That is one difference.

    It’s hard to argue with your other points they are very good.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  39. Goldie
    November 8, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    I miss Garr Nielsen as well.

  40. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    TV is no more addictive than reading and writing messages on the Humboldt Herald.

  41. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Consider, county to county, how many protests there are like the one at the eureka courthouse, championing for the same change. Maybe not the same words, definitely not the same people, but for all the same reasons.

    Everybody coming together across the country, each being defamed by blog trolling shit talkers in their own locale. Where’s a single larger news source covering just how massive this particular protest is?
    \
    How did Humboldt handle this? Is it any surprise that trolling sentiment on our blogs is as disconnected as everywhere else in the nation? The movement gets stumped just as it’s getting started, thanks to our own local news outlets.

    Can YOU, dear reader, identify the regular shit talkers? Heraldo and these others blog proprietors will never come forward and denounce their unspoken partnership with these trolls. They gotta put food in their mouths just the same, what a living!

  42. November 8, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Peaceful protests should be embraced, the other end of the spectrum is way scarier than the EPD.

  43. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    I think it would be very easy to make the case that Occupy wouldn’t exist without the internet. We can’t go on TV to get our messages out without their invitation. Social media and blogs enable us to connect with like-minded people and spread the message. Most TV content is available via the internet, the same isn’t true in reverse. The internet gives you a much wider range of choices for information, many of which are completely devoid of corporate control. I may be prejudiced since I haven’t had a TV in decades, even before I had a computer, but I prefer the internet to paper news for the variety and lack of recycling required.

  44. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Screw seems to have some screwy ideas. How is Heraldo putting food in his mouth dependent on a blog that costs money and doesn’t make any? How does it think Occupy would have captured the imagination of the country if the only sources of information about it were mainstream news programs and advertiser controlled print media? “A bunch of dirty freeloaders want you to come protest with them!” probably wouldn’t be very effective.

  45. What Now
    November 8, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    “Heraldo and these others blog proprietors will never come forward and denounce their unspoken partnership with these trolls. ”

    Is this little tidbit of “folk wisdom” from the updated edition of ‘None Dare Call It Conspiracy”, Screw or did you just create it yourself?

  46. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Same way, Jane, you’re free to say whatever you want to say till you’re blue in the face, or type whatever you want to type all day every day until your fingers fall off. But how many people take you seriously?

    As easy as it would be for me to say you’re full of shit, so you are. I could even make people think you’re full of shit before they read a single word you’ve written.

    How much money do you have for real printed distribution? How much money for broadcast advertising? Can you even get fifteen seconds on prime time if you saved for ten years? Who can afford mass mailers and tv commercials? We’re bombarded by propaganda all day to which we can’t retaliate accordingly. We were born into it, at most we’re told to grin and bare it.

    Mostly, though, you’re assuming the internet came first, but the event became so big that it couldn’t be ignored. Internet (media) attention is still on the protesters, not what everybody’s really pointing at.

  47. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Pay attention and think for yourself, What Now. Do you see your own patterns? Others do.

  48. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    And not to toot the horns of leftists who post on blogs, but as many here can attest some bloggers have been talking about the corruption which flows from corporate financing of political campaigns, increasing wealth inequality and their negative impacts on working class people for years, posting about it on national news forums which refused to report on it in their stories about the need for more tax cuts and deregulation. Even when the crisis was at its peak they were printing “he said” lies about the cause. Posts on the internet on forums read around the world about the dangers of vast wealth inequality and the corruption by corporations of our govt. as well as calls for massive protests in the US have steadily built to this point, without the slightest bit of encouragement from the MSM. That the corporate media isn’t on the side of the anti-corporate power people shouldn’t surprise anyone.

  49. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    Screws screws are loose. It makes the case for why the internet is invaluable as a protest tool, “How much money do you have for real printed distribution? How much money for broadcast advertising? Can you even get fifteen seconds on prime time if you saved for ten years? Who can afford mass mailers and tv commercials? We’re bombarded by propaganda all day to which we can’t retaliate accordingly. We were born into it, at most we’re told to grin and bare it.”

    And then it turns around and says “you’re assuming the internet came first, but the event became so big that it couldn’t be ignored.” ignoring that it was the internet that fueled the growth.

  50. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Let me add, I have had friends who have never posted on a blog in their life send me cut / pastes and links to the Herald and they don’t even know I am Plain Jane. A lot more people read it than post.

  51. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    For every intelligent comment there’s ten that exist just to denounce it, Jane. That’s what I’m talking about. And that says nothing for the headlines themselves. Bark at the bouncing ball, everybody’s an expert on everything, as long as that everything is a headline.

    Keep your head above water and keep talking! I’m all for that. But there’s no denying what it is and where it’s going.

    Where do YOU think we’ll be in five years? Based on the last 30, I can give you a straight answer nobody likes. More of the same, among an increasingly sheltered, deprived and divided people. Based on the last 5 years alone, I can guarantee that answer. Not what anybody wants to hear, especially if they have kids. At some point, you gotta wake up and smell the garbage.

  52. robash141
    November 8, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Like it or not a lot of these type of battles are waged on a symbolic level. That’s why the shitting on the bank and the. The the feeble “who cares” response by the occupiers was so devestating to them. People aren’t going to stand for that kind of thing in their town and Of course it’s not a huge crime especially when compared to the trillions stolen by the banksters but it’s something people can easliy understand that repulses them on a deep level. Just likegiven the history of racial injustice in. The United States making Rosa Parks stand on the bus wasn’t a big deal by itself but it became a very big deal eventually because of the symbolism involved

  53. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    These people are making a stink against the traffic, the police, the council, etc etc and all those people are with them as 99%ers. It doesn’t make sense and they are ruining the cause for the rest of us.

  54. November 8, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    For Screw,

    di·a·lec·tic noun \ˌdī-ə-ˈlek-tik\

    Definition of DIALECTIC

    1
    : logic 1a(1)
    2
    a : discussion and reasoning by dialogue as a method of intellectual investigation; specifically : the Socratic techniques of exposing false beliefs and eliciting truth
    b : the Platonic investigation of the eternal ideas
    3
    : the logic of fallacy
    4
    a : the Hegelian process of change in which a concept or its realization passes over into and is preserved and fulfilled by its opposite; also : the critical investigation of this process
    b (1) usually plural but singular or plural in construction : development through the stages of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis in accordance with the laws of dialectical materialism (2) : the investigation of this process (3) : the theoretical application of this process especially in the social sciences
    5
    usually plural but singular or plural in construction
    a : any systematic reasoning, exposition, or argument that juxtaposes opposed or contradictory ideas and usually seeks to resolve their conflict
    b : an intellectual exchange of ideas
    6
    : the dialectical tension or opposition between two interacting forces or elements

  55. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    I don’t care one way or another if people destroy those businesses, robash. Won’t change a minute of my day, ever. Never has, never will. Good riddance, I do business elsewhere, and if you find feces in the doorway of your bank, it’s because they’ve made themselves THAT unpolular. Consider doing business somewhere else as well.

    I haven’t seen you write anything soley from the perspective of support. Why is that?

  56. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    So what’s your solution, Screw? I don’t think this country can survive 5 more years of this dysfunction and widening wealth gap. It works for the rich in third world countries because the people are oppressed and haven’t known anything else, but even that is changing. And surprise! It’s the internet that is giving them the tools to organize and communicate. Where are the Occupiers communicating with their supporters? Facebook, blogs and other social medium.

  57. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    “So what’s your solution, Screw?”

    et tu, jane? You’ve got cancer, I dunno what you wanna do about it.

  58. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Do you see, Jane, even during the few minutes of this brief exchange, the shit talkers continue? How many are the same person, do you think?

  59. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    I’m going to smoke a joint and get back to work. Don’t feed the trolls.

  60. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Does it matter, Screw? It’s easy to skim a post of shit and go on to something relevant. Smearing the whole medium with shit because someone takes a dump in the corner doesn’t seem rational to me.

  61. robash141
    November 8, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Screw seems to be perpertrating his own particular brand of smug. Know-it-all-ism. You are wanting people to join you while simultaneously dismissing their concerns as “shit talking” and impling that we are just brainwashed corporate tools.It’s not very persuasive to say the least. I want to support this movement in Eurkeka but I’m finding it very difficult when there are spokespeople like this.

  62. Big Boss Man
    November 8, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Jeezus, what a bunch of weak sisters down there at the courthouse- Weak! I could eat a bunch of them for breakfast like a handful of baby chicks and shit’em out before lunch, including that filthy wacky ass surrounded by cops today in front of U.S. Bank. That gang of sissy losers down there needs to be chained up for some road work so they have the opportunity to become hardworkin’ tax payin’ citizens like the rest of us. They’re deprived alright- deprived of brains, weed whackers in their hands, and and a guy like me ridin’ their asses all day. C’mon now!

  63. Screw blogs
  64. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Screw blogs, meet Big Boss Man. You’ve got a lot to talk about.

    Big Boss Man, you’re right. Compared to a bunch of riot police with guns, the people at the court house are weak!

    I tried and tried to Blame Canada. No matter how hard I tried, it didn’t work. So, for now, I Blame Heraldo and his/her fellow corporate overlords! Pitchforks to Herald HQ, on the double!!

  65. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    That was a funny video Screw, but I’m too dumb to get the relevance.

  66. Screw blogs
    November 8, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Blaming the blogs? That goes against the entire point. Nevermind, turn off your computers for awhile, sheesh.

  67. November 8, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    I think if the Democratic Mayors in the big Democratic cities like Oakland, San Francisco and Los Angeles try to crush the Occupy movement, then Obama may fail to carry California. It may cost him the election.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  68. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Screw is screwed. He has attitude problems, the hardest of all maladies to fix.

  69. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    If Obama didnt carry California all I can say is GREAT!

  70. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    “Screw Blogs” you are a TROLL

    Don’t know about the big deal in the traffic, most of it is plain jane, tra, mitch , and now this screw blogs blah blah blah.

    Some are trying to glamorize these losers. The 60’s a are gone and YOU weren’t there.

    get voer it

  71. November 9, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Don’t discount TV More influence is coming, For instance, the state universities wil be offering courses by telivision,,for instance
    Humboldt State will debut a four year course for nurses telivised
    frm Southern California

  72. November 9, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Don’t discount TV More influence is coming, For instance, the state universities wil be offering courses by telivision,,for instance
    Humboldt State will debut a four year course for nurses telivised
    frm Southern raging granny

  73. The Shadow Gnostic
    November 9, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Pressured to Name Leader, Occupy Denver Elects Dog
    Denver Mayor Michael Hancock insisted that his city’s occupation name a leader in order “to deal with City and State officials.” And he got his wish! Occupy Denver has elected Shelby, a border collie, as its leader. Long live Shelby!

    Shelby, on whose noble visage you can gaze here, was elected in a “landslide vote” on Sunday night. One of Occupy Denver’s organizers, Al Nesby, was inspired to nominate Shelby to the position after the director Michael Moore showed up one day and rubbed him the wrong way by refusing to follow general assembly rules; with Shelby, who’s three and a half, the occupation should have no such problems. Her bodyguard and closest confidante is a filmmaker named Peter John Jentsch:

    “Are you the new leader?” Peter John Jentsch quizzed her in a voice usually reserved for children. “Are you, girl? Are you?”

    ​Her bodyguard, as the 27-year-old filmmaker prefers to be called, has accompanied her to Denver from their Boulder home every other day for a month now, and Shelby maintains a strict protest against leashes. (“She has yet to come by herself, so she’s only as passionate as I am,” Jentsch says.) The black-and-white dog walks freely and without prejudice throughout Civic Center Park unless a threat of police interaction relegates her to the car.

    “She spent a few weeks getting to know everybody here, so when Al nominated her, everybody knew who she was and liked her,” Jentsch says. “She’s the youngest leader of a revolution in history and the first of any occupation so far, but she’s smart, so people know she won’t make any situations. We just have to make sure she doesn’t get arrested.”

    Protesters have already made an official request for Shelby to meet with Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper.

  74. November 9, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Don’t discount TV More influence is coming, For instance, the state universities wil be offering courses by telivision,,for instance
    Humboldt State will debut a four year course for nurses telivised
    frm Southern California—- raging granny

  75. November 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Looks like some serious jealousy happenin’ over at the Mirror. Envious hugs!

  76. Lost Coast Output
    November 11, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Democracy Now this morning has a report on hydraulic fracturing (fracking), the Keystone pipeline, the Delaware River fracking project and then a look at how the Occupiers in Minneapolis and Los Angeles have helped foreclosed homeowners in their struggles with U. S. Bank.

    http://www.democracynow.org/

  77. sick of it
    November 11, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Not a fan of NPR, but good link. The last thing our local big money movers want is the for Humboldt’s occupy group to draw attention to their activities in Humboldt.

    Local developers, real estate moguls, big box pushers and their sponsered politicos would rather we keep thinking the words “poop and pee” when the subject comes up, and they’re doing their darnedest to make sure that happens until this thing just “blows over”, as they’re keeping their fingers crossed it will sooner than later.

    Heaven forbid Humboldt’s 1% gets put in the spotlight and has to make some of the changes they’ve already permanently impose on the rest of us.

  78. November 11, 2011 at 10:51 am

    oooooo look where the occupy thread brings us back too, the issues right here at home…ooooo I like it

  79. November 12, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    NPR is pure propaganda, indistinguishable from CNN or ABCNews. Their mandate is to present viewpoints not normally seen on the air. Instead they try to kill off “Pacifica” and do their best to cheerlead whatever war, or Patriot Act 6; that comes along.

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