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Consumer Reports ranks Wal-Mart at the bottom

Wal-Mart: Crappy stuff when you buy it.  Crappy experience when you try to return it.

At left is a thumbnail from the March 2012 Consumer Reports (click for better viewing). Three of top four higher-ranking big boxes are already operating in Eureka.  But the city is desperate to lower the bar.

Below is a close-up.

  1. Anonymous
    February 20, 2012 at 12:05 am

    How does the city have any control over who goes in that existing space?

  2. noname
    February 20, 2012 at 5:50 am

    If you don’t like Wal-Mart then don’t go to Wal-Mart….

  3. 06em
    February 20, 2012 at 6:34 am

    If you don’t like cancer then don’t get cancer….

  4. G Gilbert Yule
    February 20, 2012 at 6:58 am

    Actually we have all 4 of the top choices if you care to count the JCPenny catalog store on Harris in Eureka. So proud.

    Actually I liken this sort of poll to those ones such as, “Which are the best fast-food drive-ins?” They don’t really doesn’t have much relevance to my life. I usually choose not to frequent these businesses and am generally dissatisfied when I do.

  5. just middle class
    February 20, 2012 at 7:13 am

    Let the obsessions begin!

  6. Mark Phillips
    February 20, 2012 at 7:16 am

    Actually, by posting the chart from Consumer Reports you have probably violated their copyright restrictions. CR has some strict regulations regarding the use of their name and results. That’s why you never see any product being able o tout that they have been highly ranked by CR. In fact, a statement such as “highly ranked by the leading consumer magazine” is also verboten.

  7. Mitch
  8. February 20, 2012 at 7:31 am

    Speaking of obsession, you’re on the Herald bright and early this morning, JMC.

  9. Bolithio
    February 20, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Ive always had a generally good experience with Sears. Not sure why they are at the bottom.

  10. High Finance
    February 20, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Now the left is comparing Wal Mart to cancer ?

    Thanks for the laugh of the day !

    Like noname said, don’t like Wal Mart ? Don’t shop there.

  11. Anonymous
    February 20, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Anyone notice Target retooling, I presume for the approach of Wal-Mart? They’re adding fresh groceries and have rearranged the whole store.

  12. A-nony-mouse
    February 20, 2012 at 8:32 am

    Poor HiFi. I can only asume from his comment that, since it’s only “liberals” who hate WalMart, Conservatives must love cheap chinese crap, poor working conditions, low wages, and disrespectful treatment of employees. Now there’s a whole package of VALUES for the Reps to run on! FYI, I have NEVER bought one thing at Target although I must admit to ‘grazing’ at Costco once in awhile.

  13. February 20, 2012 at 8:49 am

    “Now the left is comparing Wal Mart to cancer?”

    Yes HiFi, isn’t that crazy? Let’s just agree to consider WalMart to be a “person.”

  14. Black Flag
    February 20, 2012 at 8:54 am

    How about showing the part of the chart showing what the symbols mean? The graph isn’t complete, as a lover of stats I’d like to see it.

  15. February 20, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Follow the instructions and click on the thumbnail. It’s like magic.

  16. Anonymous
    February 20, 2012 at 9:19 am

    So what control did the city have? Sounds like a desperate shot at the city.

  17. High Finance
    February 20, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Mouse, you may sneer in disdain and think people that shop at Wal Mart are poor dumb folks. But that doesn’t give YOU the right to decide where THOSE people should be allowed to shop.

    You & I will probably not shop there. The difference between us is that I don’t have the audacity to think I should decide for others.

  18. February 20, 2012 at 9:38 am

    When I click on the thumbnail, it just brings up the same image only slightly bigger. Still no key to what the little glyphs mean for those of use who aren’t Consumer Reports subscribers.

  19. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 9:41 am

    The difference between HiFi and mouse is HiFi’s inability or refusal to understand that one of the legitimate functions of government is to designate a minimal standard beneath which business and industry cannot go.

    The rest of us understand that without that floor at the federal level, there would have been no safety laws for mine workers, no seat belt or air bags in cars, and no minimum wage for workers. But HiFi and others who have drunk the reactionary kool-aid insist that business and industry, left alone, will give us what we want. It doesn’t happen, because when cheap-and-shoddy is available, it isn’t just an alternative choice, it drives out more-expensive-but-less-shoddy.

    If HiFi’s belief system corresponded to reality, there would have been no need for legislation to protect worker safety (people are free to choose where they want to work), no need for legislation for automobile safety (nobody will buy a car without a seat belt when they can buy a car with a seat belt), no need for a minimum wage (again, people are free to choose where to work).

    We did need that legislation, because HiFi’s belief system is basically religious doctrine, patiently indoctrinated into him and others via right-wing-thinktanks, but simply not in accord with actual human behavior and real world economics.

    In the same way, HiFi believes Wal-mart is just another choice for the free market to present to people. It’s not a choice when Wal-mart triggers a race to the bottom — it’s a disaster. People like HiFi will be ABLE to shop at upscale retailers. For those who were reliant on minimal standards at downscale retailers, Wal-mart will lower those standards and force others to lower their own in order to compete or go out of business.

    Yes, the floor should be set at the federal level.

    But when the federal government refuses to intervene, localities should be allowed to protect themselves from the destructiveness of “race-to-the-bottom” retailers. This could be as simple as insisting that employee salaries be sufficient to prevent employees from qualifying for public assistance, or insisting that a store provide and label goods made under conditions that meet or exceed US worker safety and salary standards.

  20. Somewhat friendly
    February 20, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Just a thought – the latest cover of The Economist = “Over-Regulated America”.

  21. February 20, 2012 at 10:01 am

    “… I don’t have the audacity to think I should decide for others.”

    Except when it comes to GMO food labels. Let me turn this around for you, “HiFi, you may sneer in disdain and think people [who want foods labeled] are poor dumb folks. But that doesn’t give YOU the right to decide [for] THOSE people.”

  22. High Finance
    February 20, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Mitch, it is very dangerous when people allow government to expand the definition of “minimal standard” to include non safety issues.

    Shopping at a discount store has nothing at all to do with safety laws whether they are seat belts or mine safety. Wal Mart has the same minimum wage rules as any other business in the United States.

    Such flawed logic & ridiculous arguments that you put forward are exactly how governments become dictatorships and people lose their freedom. You may be in favor of an all powerful federal government dictating how people are allowed to live, but the next administration may not be one to your liking.

    I’m sorry Joel, can you point to any post of mine that said I am opposed to GMO food labels ? Perhaps you didn’t get enough sleep last night and are just lazy this morning ? I am awaiting your apology and please try harder next time.

  23. February 20, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Well said, HiFi.

  24. Thorstein Veblen
    February 20, 2012 at 10:59 am

    “Shopping at a discount store has nothing at all to do with safety laws”

    Half true. Actually, shopping at a discount store has lots to do with safety laws, environmental laws, copyright laws, etc. Just not our laws here in the US. Along with sending jobs overseas, we have also shipped environmental degradation and exploitation of labor to other, more desperate countries. Then we import their cheaper stuff to consume here.

    Some argue that the solution is to become just as shitty of a country so we can match up better with our competition, i.e., do away with environmental rules, labor rules, etc. to bring production costs to the producer down.

    But as an alternative, our government could set a ‘floor’ through import tariffs that negate the illusory advantage other countries enjoy in lower production costs. We might end up with a less perverted trading system, more US jobs, and a better planet.

  25. Just Middle Class
    February 20, 2012 at 11:04 am

    We are in a global economy and if we adopt extreme protectiionist positions, we would have a disaster.

  26. February 20, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Who’s talking about “extreme protectiionist positions”?

  27. Dolly Llama
    February 20, 2012 at 11:31 am

    HIgH fINanCe,

    We are already living in a dictatorship, and with the aid of our local Gauletier Dave Tyson we are about to get our own G.U.M. “state universal store” just like they had back in the Soviet Union.

    Cheap shoddy goods and plenty of them for us. The rich can fly to the City where their needs can be met.

  28. Thorstein Veblen
    February 20, 2012 at 11:36 am

    This is where the free marketeers will take us if they have their way, to where a tariff that would level the playing field is an ‘extreme protectionist position’. If what we have now is ‘free trade’, then we may want to start looking at alternatives. And, I don’t see anything wrong with standing up for America, and putting US workers first for a change.

    Finally, what would the protectionist ‘disaster’ look like? High unemployment, perhaps? Higher fuel costs? Exodus of corporations to poorer countries? Exporting of our natural resources?

  29. Jr
    February 20, 2012 at 11:48 am

    The ideal retail model is one of consumer cooperatives and worker-owned businesses. In the former case the person who shops there is a part owner and can participate in running the enterprise (via the Board). In the latter, the people who work there have a role in its management. We need more enterprises like the North Coast Co-op in order to create a truly sustainable, locally-based economy.

  30. February 20, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Okay, HiFi. I’ll just take “PC paranoia” as reluctant approval of GMO labeling.

    And who’s trying to take away the sacred right to shop for cheap goods? Most of us simply agree that WalMart is awful.

  31. February 20, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    “And who’s trying to take away the sacred right to shop for cheap goods?”

    Any number of people that frequent this blog, for starters. Just look at some of the comments.

    Jr. wrote, “We need more enterprises like the North Coast Co-op in order to create a truly sustainable, locally-based economy.”

    Nothing is stopping you. Get working on it if you feel that’s what we need, although I suspect you’ll probably want to restrict other non- pc businesses for yours to succeed. Correct?

  32. Nanny State
    February 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Does Heraldo support ditching Kmart and bringing in a Sam’s Club? Our available store ranking would improve. Here’s an idea, bring them all in and let the consumer choose.

  33. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    HiFi 10:44,

    Yes, allowing government intervention carries risks. But not allowing the government to intervene also carries risks. The difficulty is finding a reasonable balance. Different people will disagree as to what constitutes reasonable balance, and the consensus will shift over time.

    Free trade has invited capital, American-owned and otherwise, to flow out of the United States towards places that lack our protection for workers. Wal-mart is (as you well know), the retail arm of China and other low-wage, low-worker-safety economies.

    It’s not just that Wal-mart treats its American employees poorly. It’s that Wal-mart is part of the loop that has imperiled the worker protections we’ve achieved over a century of struggle by forcing our workers to compete against peasants living under a military dictatorship.

    If you don’t give a shit about worker protection, it’s great that you’ll have a place to shop where the products are nice and cheap because they’re put together by teenage girls under military slavery. That’s the “free choice” you’re standing up for.

  34. anoni-truth-seeker
    February 20, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Looking back over comments regarding GMO…..Hi-Fi never said that he was against GMOs. He just referred to it as “PC paranoia.”

    I guess he just didn’t know what that meant.

    Now it’s time for you to apologize Hi-Fi.

  35. Eric Kirk
    February 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    How does the city have any control over who goes in that existing space?

    Probably a couple of dozen means of control. Was that a serious question?

  36. High Finance
    February 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Mitch, when I see you proposing the federal government to step in and ban Wal Mart I see NO “reasonable balance” from you but an extremist view.

    Are you aware that many, if not most, stores sell products produced overseas ? Are you even aware that you have many of those products in your own home ?

    I think GMO panic is PC nonsense. But if people want that labeling on the food and are prepared to pay the extra cost, I don’t care. Apparently Joel or the multi Avatar at 12.43pm do not understand the distinction ?

  37. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    When did I propose the federal government step in and ban Wal-mart?

    What I’d propose is that Wal-mart and all other retailers wishing to sell imported goods should be required to tell consumers whether the products they are buying were made according to US labor standards, some other set of published standards, or slave labor.

    I don’t think Wal-mart should be singled out.

  38. Omnomnonimous
    February 20, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Just realized I was mistaken about the lack of a glyph key. I was clicking on the closeup below, not the thumbnail to the left. The link from the thumbnail includes the whole article, key and all.

  39. anoni-truth-seeker
    February 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Yeh Hi-Fi……a lot of cost. Gonna have to re-design the label.

    The beautiful part is that you’ll be paying that extra cost too.

    Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

  40. Comrade Jefferson
    February 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Mitch and HiFi are both trying to change the USA.
    HiFi more towards the founding fathers vision.
    Mitch, a tad more Soviet.

  41. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    Soviet’s my middle name! How did you know, comrade?

    When not plotting to turn your children gay, I practice Internationale on balalaika.

  42. walt
    February 20, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Y’all are living in the past.

    This from the Financial Times is two months old:
    “Lev Khasis, former chief executive of X5, Russia’s largest retailer by sales, has started as a senior vice-president at Walmart, where he will be focusing on the companies’ existing emerging market operations, in countries including Brazil, India and China.

    Mr Khasis stressed in an interview that his appointment did not indicate Walmart would immediately rush back into Russia, but said the company would continue to look at the market carefully, waiting for the right time and the right acquisition.

    “It doesn’t matter if you’re the first enter to the market. It matters if you’re on time … I’m confident that Walmart will enter Russia sooner or later,” he told the Financial Times.

    Mr Khasis added that it would be hard for the US conglomerate to continue to overlook “the largest market in Europe”.

    Coming soon: babushkas as Walmart greeters. Can you say “Zdrastvuite!”. Nice try.

  43. Anonymous
    February 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    “Eric Kirk says:

    February 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    How does the city have any control over who goes in that existing space?

    Probably a couple of dozen means of control. Was that a serious question?”

    Then by all means, let’s hear them, Eric, let’s hear how the city can stop a store from going into an appropriately zoned retail space like the bayshore mall.

  44. Dave Kirby
    February 20, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Mitch ..”Wishing to sell imported goods” …take a walk down to your local hardware, electronics or virtually any dry goods store and you’ll find hundreds of products that are not made here. I was in Sears awhile back and the guy in line in front of me was having a fit because the Craftsman tool he was buying was marked “made in china”. The horse has left the barn. That mountain of T.V.s and the shelves full of digital cameras that greet you upon entering Costco are all imported. As I have noted here before, the computer you have sitting in front of you is probably “chinese junk”. There are valid reasons not to shop Wal Mart but the country of origin of their products is no different than anyplace these days. Apple, as Nike did, is currently finding out that the working conditions at their chinese factories makes for bad P.R. but I doubt that even well intentioned consumers will be boycotting i pads and i phones in significant numbers. Too many of us are not going to give up the i tit.

  45. February 20, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    At least the local stores that sell Chinese plastic crap are paying higher wages and taxes here in Humboldt. Where does Wal-Mart pay it’s taxes?

  46. 713
    February 20, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Which taxes?

  47. Jr
    February 20, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Many of the books I purchase for my store are printed in China and probably cannot even be read by those who are printing them. Mr. Kirby is right, the horse has left the barn. The question now is how do we get him back in it.

  48. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Dave,

    Yes, you’re right that the imports are everywhere. There’s nothing wrong with imported goods per se, the problem is when import/export becomes capitalism’s escape from enlightened nations’ labor regulations.

    You’re also right that the horse has left the barn, with the help and encouragement of both parties.

    But if we want a country that remains livable, and we don’t want to sacrifice the gains in working people’s rights made by the last five generations or so, there has to be some way of restoring bite to the quality-of-life laws that are now being evaded by import/export.

    I remember touring a former slate mine in the UK and looking at what working conditions were like during the industrial revolution of that “enlightened” country. The workers, including child laborers, had to buy their own candles; many worked with high explosives in near darkness, to try to save the cost of burning the candles. That is what capitalism and an “aristocracy,” left unregulated, produces. (The miners had Sunday morning off, of course, so the respectable religionists could scare them into obedience with threats of hell and promises of heaven.)

    The US had managed to climb its way out until our working class was tossed into the competitive vat with the parts of the world that had not. We are only seeing the beginning of the regression unless some political action is taken. I wish I had an answer.

    Western Europe seems, at least from a distance, to understand these things and deal with them intelligently. But here, the yahoos will just shout “We’re Number One” until the only thing we’re number one at is idiocy.

    It’s self-correcting, of course, you can’t have a number-one military without a loyal and productive working class. People like HiFi are leading to the destruction of the Constitution, while red-baiting people who would like to see the Constitution honored. It’s ever been thus, and it ever will be.

  49. February 20, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    I like cheap crap when you buy it cheap at Walmart. That way when it breaks I can buy more.. cheap. Better then buying the same cheap crap from Pierson’s and over paying for it.

  50. Anonymous
    February 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Eric, let’s do a little review. The property was already zoned. The building already exists. Wal-Mart is not expanding the building.

    They are doing the exact same thing Target did.

    So what can the city do? Has you savor Linda Atkins come out and said anything that could be done?

  51. tra
    February 20, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    Here’s an idea, Rich: Instead of buying cheap crap in the first place, how about buying less stuff, but of a higher quality. Yes, it’ll cost a bit more — in the short term — but it’ll be less likely to break or wear out as quickly, which means over the long term you won’t have to keep giving more and more money to the same folks that sold you the crappy stuff the first time around. Plus you’ll be using less energy and resources, and sending less garbage headed to the landfill. Win, win, win.

  52. Jr
    February 20, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    So don’t buy anything without first asking yourself if you really need it. Buy Nothing Day in November should be expanded to at least one day a week. Bring back the blue laws.

  53. labtech
    February 20, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Dave Kirby makes a good point: almost all the electronic products we own, the books we read and the medications we take are manufactured in China, often to much higher quality standards than our own.

    The “plastic crap” tag has no validity and reeks of racism.

    If you want to do something for Chinese workers, pay more for your purchases.

  54. A-nony-mouse
    February 20, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Walt’s comment at 2:35 is almost enough to make me paranoid. If I was a ‘conspiracy theorist’, I’d have to start wondering just what WalMart was up to by moving into almost every industrial country. Could it have ulterior motives? Is it seeking ultimate control over the world economy and its people? Is this as far off as I hope it sounds?
    I’m not much for conspiracies, but WalMart’s behavior to ‘cover the planet’ has me worrying at least a little.
    Bow, Eureka. Your Masters are about to arrive?

  55. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Actually, labtech, paying more for your purchases won’t do a thing for the Chinese workers. Paying extra doesn’t serve as any guarantee that the extra will flow to workers or even the Chinese — it will probably flow to executive offices in America and Europe.

    Insisting that the products you purchase come from suppliers that treat workers well will. In electronics, that’s already become nearly impossible, which is sad.

    That’s why laws and regulations are important, and why they should have been part of any free trade agreements — if you couldn’t import electronics unless all workers involved in the production process worked for businesses that were forced to guarantee decent treatment of workers, Chinese workers would benefit immediately and US workers would benefit from not having to compete with slave labor. Just because the free trade agreements didn’t include this initially doesn’t mean the changes cannot be made.

    The only racism involved is thinking Chinese workers are not entitled to the same respect for human dignity to which American workers are entitled.

    Incidentally, I think China has become too expensive for some manufacturers.

  56. Not A Native
    February 20, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    I suggest tra reduce his consumption by not owning a computer. Now THAT would be win win win win.

  57. tra
    February 20, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Good one.

  58. Thorstein Veblen
    February 20, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    WalMart merging with Goldman Sachs? Theres a conspiracy theory for you.

  59. Corpus Crispy
    February 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Labtech has as thorough a grasp of economics as he does of science.

  60. High Finance
    February 20, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Mitch, you don’t have a friggin’ idea of what the Constitution means. Your laughable statement at 9.41am “Yes, the floor should be set at the federal level” referring to “minimal standards at downscale retailers” proves that.

    Your obsession over Wal Mart is pushing the line of insanity. It is just a store chain. It has more in common with Target, Costco & K-Mart than it has not. Every department store in the country sells goods made in China. Pierson’s sells goods made in China.

    Particularly troubling for your loved ones are comments you are making like;

    “Wal Mart is the retail arm of China” 12.28pm and “Wal Mart has imperiled the worker protections”

    You seriously need to take a vacation and visit the real world.

  61. February 20, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Denial, denial, denial.

    Walmart is value neutral, Mitch, just like everything else. Why judge? Walmart fucks over workers near (in the US) and far. To discuss (also known as obsess if you’re a right-wing wacko) means you’ve crossed the line into “insanity.”

    Think of the children.

  62. Jr
    February 20, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Wal-Mart is on schedule to complete their Crescent City upgrade to a Super Store in a couple of months. It will have a full service grocery story and potentially an auto care department. It is already open 24 hours daily.

  63. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Is it just me, Heraldo, or is the HiFi persona getting creepier by the day?

    Yes, the federal government should be protecting the rights of American workers. Instead, it has decided to protect capital, and to assist it in fleeing the country for more exploitable territory.

    It isn’t much of a surprise. Capital can afford to buy politics; labor can’t. Until and unless people are able to see past the BS propaganda that dominates our lives, things will keep getting worse.

    The only thing that really surprises me is the way the traitors to America are so self-deluded that think they’re great patriots.

    “Friggin?” Been listening to Joe the Plumber lately, HiFi?

  64. Mitch
    February 20, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Diary entry, Feb 20, 10pm

    Dear Diary,

    Plunging deeper into my uncontrollable Walmart obsession, with insanity growing ever nearer, I’ve gone deep into Politburo archives and found something from a fellow traveler program with the violent-sounding name “Frontline.” The program is output by apparatchiks at the state-owned broadcaster. It’s called “Walmart and China — A Joint Venture.”

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/secrets/wmchina.html

    Diary, my fear of Walmart is destroying my life and hurting my loved ones. Perhaps tomorrow’s Glen Beck marathon will help re-ground me in sanity and gold bullion.

  65. SmokeMonster
    February 21, 2012 at 12:23 am

    @labtech- pay more? Are you serious?
    Look up how much profit Apple is now making from each iPhone 4s compared to the first iPhone. Then look up the cost off contract of the iPhone 1 vs. 4s.
    Moronic apple fanatics pay more for Chinese manufactured products all day and they are still jumping off roofs at foxconn.

  66. walt
    February 21, 2012 at 5:04 am

    “There there,” said Yossarian with growing doubt and trepidation. “There there.”

  67. walt
    February 21, 2012 at 5:29 am

    Chinese products are GOOD for you! Think of Chinese pet food (wheat gluten, 2007), Chinese drywall (2001), and, oh yes, Chinese heparin (2008):

    “The raw material for the recalled heparin batches was processed in China from pig’s intestines by the American pharmaceutical firm Scientific Protein Laboratories.The U.S. Food and Drug Administration was quoted as stating that at least 81 deaths were believed linked to a raw heparin ingredient imported from the People’s Republic of China, and that they had also received 785 reports of serious injuries associated with the drug’s use. According to the New York Times, “Problems with heparin reported to the agency include difficulty breathing, nausea, vomiting, excessive sweating and rapidly falling blood pressure that in some cases led to life-threatening shock.”

    What’s good for M&M Enterprises is good for the nation.

  68. Just Watchin
    February 21, 2012 at 5:46 am

    I’ve watched Eurekans rail against the “Big Box” stores, yet virtually every Big Box retailer is represented in the area. This is all about being anti Walmart, pure and simple. I’m guessing the local McDonalds pays similar to what WalMart will, yet I haven’t seen them singled out. KFC is worldwide, but there no conspiracy theory that the Colonel wants to take over the world.
    Your state is going down the crapper, yet you re-elect every incumbent legislator. You should watch what is going on in Greece carefully………it’s your future McFly!

  69. Mitch
    February 21, 2012 at 7:05 am

    walt,

    I’m cold.

  70. Governmentcheesewhizzard
    February 21, 2012 at 7:17 am

    If you see something, film something!!

  71. Dan
    February 21, 2012 at 8:16 am

    “This is all about being anti Walmart, pure and simple.” JW 5.46

    For me, that is correct. I am anti-Walmart, as I was anti- Hurwitz, and always will be anti- parasite.

  72. Mitch
    February 21, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Good stuff on the LA Times site this morning:

    Why Liberals Can’t Talk to Conservatives (very sensible ;) ):

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-wagman-it-is-not-possible-to-talk-to-conserv-20120219,0,1149982.story

    Why Conservatives Can’t Talk to Liberals (too stupid for words ;) ):

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-allen-it-is-not-possible-to-talk-to-liberals-20120219,0,4795838.story

  73. Tim
    February 21, 2012 at 9:25 am

    I have never been in a wal mart and I don’t ever plan to. However it seems that I am out of step with most Americans. They obviously enjoy shopping there. Do you think that the vast majority of Americans care about what sort of company it is? Apparently not.

  74. Fortier
    February 21, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Obvious that “Just Watchin” does not live in Eureka/Humboldt.

    He or she is a paid blog whore. You can tune him out now…….

  75. High Finance
    February 21, 2012 at 9:31 am

    You only think that first article was sensible and the second was stupid Mitch because you are prejudiced and uninformed about conservatives.

  76. labtech
    February 21, 2012 at 10:00 am

    We went through the same hypocrisy twenty years ago when KMART dared to open a store in Eureka.

    Anyone boycotting KMART now?

  77. Walt
    February 21, 2012 at 10:23 am

    This from the Beeb this morning:
    The world’s biggest retailer, Wal-Mart, has reported rising quarterly profits after a solid holiday season. For the three months to 31 January, Wal-Mart turned in a net income of $5.2bn (£3.3bn), up 3.4% compared with the same period in the previous year. But the results did not match market expectations and shares fell more than 4% in early trading in New York.
    Wal-Mart has been lowering prices to tempt shoppers. In its quarterly report, Wal-Mart’s chief executive, Mike Duke, said the strategy is working. “Our price leadership is making a difference across the United States, as many families are settling into a new normal,” he said. “Core customers remain cautious about their finances, and they rely on Wal-Mart’s every day low price promise to help them manage through today’s economic challenges.”

  78. February 21, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Wal-Mart open 24 hours in Eureka?

    Man!

    I used to have so much fun making fun of the toothless tweakers at 2am in my hometown Wal-Mart(now an empty, abandoned building across from the Giant super-sized Wal-Mart) spun out of their minds, wild eyed and chewing on their tongues and cheeks.

    You know. Maybe Wal-Mart will be good for Eureka. All those tweekers will have something to do besides steal your car or break into your garage at 2 in the morning. And if you need meth, just go hang out at the mall and you’ll find it, but that’s nothing new there.

    Why does Eureka have such a bad meth problem? Why does Eureka have such a terrible houseless situation? What’s missing in Eureka that Arcata, McKinleyville and Fortuna seem to have? Or should I say what does Eureka HAVE that Arcata, Fortuna and Mckinleyville DON’T have?

    Big Box stores…

  79. Thorstein Veblen
    February 21, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Sorry, Labtech, thats just bad history. I was here when KMart opened. Fast-tracked thru the City (sales tax!). There was a parade and free hot dogs at the grand opening, traffic backed up on Broadway almost to downtown.

    I remember thinking, ‘what kind of town goes this apesh*t over a KMart?’. Still, many of us were happy to finally have an alternative to the gouging our local merchants inflicted on us for the previous 150 years. Odd that we didn’t think of MWards and SEars and Pennys the same way?

    And, of course, at the time, almost everything sold at Kmart was made in the USA.

  80. labtech
    February 21, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Right. KMART caused the Meth problem in Eureka.

    Oops McKinleyville has a KMART too.

    See you in aisle 3 a week after they open.

  81. Jr
    February 21, 2012 at 11:19 am

    What are the first words out of the mouths of Eureka’s children?

    “Attention K-Mart shoppers”

  82. anoni-truth-seeker
    February 21, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Hi-Fi who is apparently prejudiced and uninformed about liberals, but an expert nonetheless tells Mitch:

    “You only think that first article was sensible and the second was stupid Mitch because you are prejudiced and uninformed about conservatives.”

    And if he is ….well look at the role model you are providing Hi-Fi.

    Hi-Fi…what’s the deal? Are you here because your doctor told you your blood pressure was too low? You don’t discuss, you spew. You’ll never get that job as Wal-Mart Greeter with that attitude.

    Back to the topic at hand, when Wal-Mart goes into existing space at the mall, Wal-Martistas can dance in the street. In their cheap crappy Wal-Mart shoes. Legitimate empty store space in a mall that is dying. Soon they will have half the mall. Even as a Wal-mart hater, I believe that they have the right to go in there.

    For the rest of us, all we can do is show our feelings by never setting foot in the place.

    For those who want to argue with the Anti-Wal-Mart crowd that we already have Big-Box stores, yes it’s true. And we already have 3 of the top 4. Want to celebrate that you’ll be able to buy the lowest quality Chinese goods on the market? Have a great time. But don’t compare Costco with Wal-Mart. They are at opposite ends of the Big-Box spectrum.

    On the other hand, getting ranked below K-Mart? That’s impressive in its own way.

  83. High Finance
    February 21, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Why are YOU here anoni ?

    Only to speak to those who agree with you ? Are you that insecure ? Your question reflects very poorly on you.

  84. February 22, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Want to know how bad CR is?

    Kmart and Sears are the same store. Owned by the same company.

    So how can the same store get different marks?

    Gee…..dunno.

    Sam’s Club and Walmart are, once again, the same store.

    Hmmm.

  85. anoni-truth-seeker
    February 23, 2012 at 7:04 am

    Years ago, in Arcata, the same guy owned a computer store and a Mexican restaurant. Did that make them the same store?

  86. Tofu Jesus
    February 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Apples and Apples, not Apples and Fish Tacos. Can’t you people rubs your brains cells together and come up with anything better than that?

    How is Marc and the House of What’s Happening anyway?

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