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Wal-Mart “happy” to have last laugh on Eureka voters

A Wal-Mart representative gushed over Wal-Mart’s pleasure surrounding it’s impending grand opening in Eureka on KMUD news Monday night.

You can believe the world’s biggest retailer is, uh, smiling. Wal-Mart spent $250,000 in Eureka during its failed 1999 special election to convince voters to approve a zoning change that would have allowed the scoundrel big-box to locate on the Balloon Tract. 61% of Eureka voted no.

The rep gave mostly stock answers to KMUD’s questions. She said the reason Wal-Mart’s new location at the Bayshore Mall was kept secret was because there was nothing to announce until there was something to announce, even though work was already underway.

But an inspector who had worked on about 30 Wal-Marts told the North Coast Journal, “I don’t understand the secrecy [over the new Eureka store]. I’ve never seen it before.”

That makes the Eureka case special. To stick it’s big middle finger in the face of Eureka voters, Wal-Mart had to be all tip-toe and hush-hush to avoid any threatening backlash, and it’s little yes-men-and-women at city hall dutifully played along.

Not only is Wal-Mart “happy,” it’s rubbing its hands together and cackling.

  1. Anonymous
    April 23, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Yawn. Maybe once it is in you haters can STFU as plain Jane would put it

  2. April 23, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    That would make Wal-Mart “happy.”

  3. Hate the Bastards
    April 23, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Fuck WalMart and everything they stand for.

  4. What Now
    April 24, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Delighted to see someone call it for what it is, 11:43.
    I appreciate your succinctness.

  5. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 12:16 am

    Roughly 39% voted for the Wal-Mart rezoning. That’d mean Wal-Mart lost by 22%, not 61%. It sounds more impressive the other way though, I agree.

  6. April 24, 2012 at 12:33 am

    61% voted against the zoning change in Wal-Mart’s special election. The post has been adjusted.

  7. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 6:19 am

    The loser in this tale is Target, which just shrank its retail space to sell more groceries, apparently unaware that WinCo beats Wal-mart prices on food. Wal-mart will nab food customers away from WinCo in the short term, but not enough in the long-term. Meanwhile, Target’s grocery section is likely to wane. The advice indie businesses receive is to not compete with Wal-Mart — sell something different. Target just converted a big chunk of its store, seemingly to compete head-to-head with Wal-mart.

  8. Ponder z
    April 24, 2012 at 6:25 am

    And you choose to bury you head in the sand on issues like this.

    Free Speech: The former speaker, echoing the president, says the Supreme Court got it wrong in ruling we have the right to pool our money for purposes of political speech.

    Leave it to Nancy Pelosi, who said we had to pass ObamaCare in order to find out what’s in it, to suggest that a document we had well over two centuries to read was misinterpreted by the court in its Citizens United decision wherein it held that corporations and unions can spend unlimited amounts on political advocacy as long as they do not coordinate with candidates or campaigns.

    Pelosi, at a press briefing last Thursday, endorsed a movement announced by other congressional Democrats the day before to ratify an amendment to the Constitution to allow Congress to regulate political speech when it is engaged in by corporations as opposed to individuals.

    “Our Founders had an idea. It was called democracy. It said elections are determined by the people, the voice and the vote of the people, not by the bankrolls of the privileged few. This Supreme Court decision flies in the face of our Founders’ vision, and we want to reverse it,” Pelosi said even as the ObamaCare she shepherded threatens to shred both the First and Tenth Amendments.

    We have not heard Ms. Pelosi speak out against President Obama’s illegal by unconstitutional recess appointments or his decisions to ignore both Congress and the courts’ right to govern any regulation. Pelosi had no problem when a document that begins, “We the people” was trumped by a bill crafted behind closed doors that reads, “the secretary shall determine …”

    Pelosi was among those who stood and applauded when, in a moment worthy of the Roman Coliseum rather than a State of the Union address, the president lectured a captive audience of Supreme Court justices,shamefully scolding them on national television for “having reversed a century of law” in a ruling in which the court was protecting freedom of political speech enshrined over two centuries ago in the First Amendment.

    We agree with Justice Samuel Alito’s eloquent rebuff of the president: “Not true.”

  9. just middle class
    April 24, 2012 at 6:48 am

    Now H, how can you milk this for at least 10 new additional “stories” until they open, how Verbeniaesque.

  10. Gil Yule
    April 24, 2012 at 6:51 am

    Perhaps some things are truly inevitable. Death, taxes and Wal-Mart.

    Damn, I seem to be in a bit of a pessimistic mood today.

  11. High Finance
    April 24, 2012 at 7:09 am

    bbbbbbboooooooorrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiinnnnnnnngggggggg…….

  12. April 24, 2012 at 7:35 am

    I’m shocked to see team HumCPR and the Bohn heads decrying criticism of WalMart. Shocked!

  13. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 7:52 am

    This is part of Brady and Neiman’s “jobs program”. This and the empty store fronts downtown. Ya, “let’s get Eureka working”

  14. tra
    April 24, 2012 at 7:58 am

    Wal-Mart’s Mexico Scandal: Stocks Slip As Congressional Investigation Launched

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/wal_marts_mexico_scandal.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

  15. Dick Wad
    April 24, 2012 at 8:13 am

    What is wrong with you idiots. to do business in Mexico, it is the norm to pay the bite. Its the way its done. Walmart is here, don’t like it don’t shop there. It’s the American way. Most of you don’t have a clue about how real life works. Sad little progressive people.

  16. Plain Jane
    April 24, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Mexico has been working hard to end government bribery for years with harsh punishment for those who are caught. Multinational corporations use bribery to exploit their financial edge over the mom and pop markets (Mexican middle class). Justifying bribery as “the way it works there” is immoral and people like you are part of the problem. Walmart should be “relieved” of the profits from their illegal activities just like drug lords and other criminal enterprises are.

  17. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Can’t wait til Wal Mart Opens !

  18. Aristides
    April 24, 2012 at 9:44 am

    This all begs the question – “Who did Walmart bribe in Eureka? Or do you think bribery is only for Mexicans?

  19. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 10:16 am

    What a loser you are Heraldo, stop crying, you will probably be in line first to get all the new sales.

  20. What Now
    April 24, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Dick Wad misses the point entirely.
    If it’s illegal, it’s illegal.
    If a credible defense is “that’s the way things are done in mexico” Mall Wort would have used that defense already.
    There would have been a TREMENDOUS amount of shady and conniving book keeping involved in order to access and pass on such amounts of money.
    The current CEO of Mall Wort is one of those directly implicated.If these are acceptable business practices in his world he needs to be removed from their corporate board and prevented from ever sitting
    on the board of ANY publicly traded company or other group that is involved with public trust.
    This business as usual” is the exact reason we’ve had rip-offs and financial crises from the savings and loan debacle through to missing Pentagon billions, the housing “bubble” and 2 recent global “recessions”.

  21. April 24, 2012 at 11:39 am

    via Puget Sound Sage:

    “Our analysis finds evidence of significant direct and indirect impacts on the local economy associated with Walmart’s entry into the Skyway grocery market. The new Walmart grocery shifts consumption, diverting $25.38 million per year in sales from existing retailers in our base scenario. This translates into a drop in the total payroll value for all food sellers in the area of $655,000 per year or 1.2% percent of the total payroll value for grocery store employment within our study area.”
    “When the direct and indirect effects of this change are considered, the impact rises to $898,000 in lost output, roughly 6.4 fulltime jobs and $998,000 in lost labor income. Although the positive impacts associated with redevelopment of the physical site contribute a direct positive effect of $2.67 million in economic output and $1.12 million in labor income in the first year, this is not nearly enough to offset other changes over the twenty year life of the project. The total impact of all changes estimated in our Base scenario over a twenty year project lifespan is projected to be a net loss of $13.07 million in economic output and a similar loss of $14.51 million in labor income.”

    the complete pdf report is here:

    http://pugetsoundsage.org//downloads/Walmart-Fowler-Report-2012-04-06_1-1.pdf

  22. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    loved the buzz-words “wal-mart wants to be a good corporate citizen”.
    corporations are not citizens.

  23. Dave Kirby
    April 24, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    I’d be surprised if Wal-Mart goes with a full on grocery store. Only their bigger stores have fresh meat and produce. Target is going that direction. It may end up being a good thing if they can chase Ray’s back to Oregon. Ray’s treats their employees every bit as bad as Wal-Mart with pricing that is consistently higher than any of the other chains.

    I really don’t know a lot about the players up there in Eureka but I was under the impression that the no vote on the balloon tract was as much about Arkley as it was about big boxes.

  24. April 24, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    High Finance, Sax Fifth Avenue called and wants you to stop shopping at Walmart.

  25. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Rumor is Atkins is going to quit after Walmart is open because any more effort is a waste of time.

  26. April 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    We need Linda and I hope the rumor is false. But it is easy to understand how frustrating it would be to work with that ship of fools and its Captain Dave Tyson.

  27. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    “Ray’s treats their employees every bit as bad as Wal-Mart”

    This is not true at all, they’re solid. In fact safeway employees keep their eyes on openings at rays.

  28. April 24, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Besides, Ray’s Food Place is the home of honest goodness and has just what you’re looking for.

  29. Just Watchin
    April 24, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Villalobos, Buenrostro targets of CalPERS fraud enforcement action – latimes.com

    If you want to see about bribes, you can look in your oen back yard….

  30. Jack Sherman
    April 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Ray’s exposes that old canard about “consumers determining which businesses are successful”.

    On any given day Ray’s has more employees than customers…still going strong after a decade!

    Walmart might do poorly in Eureka, open another in Fortuna and Mckinleyville…and not think twice about it. Once the competition is decimated, their prices will skyrocket.

    They are too big to be concerned about “popularity”, they’ll sell products at a loss as long as it takes to eliminate the competition.

    Less variety, higher prices, and poorly stocked shelves is the result in every rural community they invade…a little closer to communism every day…thank you Walmart!

  31. Anonymous
    April 24, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Their prices dont skyrocket, moron.

  32. Plain Jane
    April 24, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Walmart has been fined many times for cheating their employees, unsafe working conditions and overcharging customers. Their “low” prices listed on the shelves are often not the price charged at checkout. And coincidentally, it’s ALWAYS in their favor.

    Just the other day: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/21/walmart-fined-21-million-overcharging-customers/

  33. High Finance
    April 25, 2012 at 7:02 am

    It does seem that Wal Mart has a lot of complaints filed against it compared to other stores.

    But you have to keep its size in mind to get the real picture. It has 8,500 stores and some two million employees.

  34. April 25, 2012 at 8:01 am

    In other words, Wal-Mart can afford to discriminate against and abuse employees.

  35. Mitch
    April 25, 2012 at 8:07 am

    There you go again, Heraldo, hating on success. Envy. It isn’t pretty. :)

  36. Plain Jane
    April 25, 2012 at 8:33 am

    If Walmart is too big to be compliant with laws, they are too big. Simple.

  37. Plain Jane
    April 25, 2012 at 9:05 am

    This is a link to a page which shows the 10 largest corporations and the other corporations they own. http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/389601_10150843585062502_20566782501_11729296_878658895_n.jpg

  38. High Finance
    April 25, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Obviously people missed my point.

    When you have two million employees there will obviously be more bad apples included in a number that large.

    Must I explain everything to you ?

  39. Plain Jane
    April 25, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    When there is a large number of bad apples at the top, the whole barrel is rotten. When these bad apples also serve on other boards, they contaminate more barrels. Not surprised you can’t grasp this. You have reichwing dementia.

  40. RefFan
    April 25, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Why is it that ppl like Plain Jane just cant agree with the obvious point Hi Fi is trying to get across? Why must you always have to make it a bigger argument then necessary. It was a simple comment about large amts of employees and bad apples, nothing more. I hope ur not married PJ, or if you are, I hope you dont subject your husband/wife to this kind of behavior all the time. Life is too short!

  41. High Finance
    April 25, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    PJ, with two million employees and 8,500 stores, if there was as big a problem with bad apples as you charge, we would be hearing 2 or 3 new stories about Wal Mart every single day.

    Put aside your hysteria and try to think for a moment before responding.

  42. Plain Jane
    April 25, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    When corporations are corrupt at their highest levels, the number of employees is irrelevant.

  43. Thirdeye
    April 25, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    The ballon track zoning measure from over 12 years ago is irrelevant. There is no zoning change. The store is moving into a retail space that hasn’t been occupied for over two years. Get a life.

  44. High Finance
    April 25, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    PJ’s problem RefFan, is that she thinks if she ever concedes a point (no matter how small) she thinks she has lost.

    She has no idea how foolish she sounds.

  45. Plain Jane
    April 25, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    You should just talk to your wife in person, HiFi.

  46. Jack Sherman
    April 25, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Yet again, Highly Mistaken reveals that he/she must sound out words when reading!

    Hilarious!

    And how long did it take this “Pot, Kettle, Black”, hypocrite to acknowledge his “mistake” about Eureka qualifying for a grant to purchase Jefferson School, or that the Eureka Chamber of Commerce finances are private?

    WalMart has aggressively defended, and lost, numerous class action employee suits that provided the unusual insight for books and video documentaries revealing chronic, store-wide illegal employment practices. Their damage to rural economies is also well-documented.

    But be my guest, continue offering zero research and feeble opinions to defend a bad neighbor in our community.

  47. High Finance
    April 25, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    My wife thinks you both sound foolish.

  48. What Now
    April 25, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    High Finance says:
    April 25, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    “My wife thinks you both sound foolish.:

    She is certainly an expert.
    She lives with one.

  49. Jack Sherman
    April 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Highly Mistaken returns to his dependable intellectual ground.

    Whew!

  50. April 25, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    It’s all so easily explained: Walmart employees who complain about gender discrimination, as more than 1 million women have done, are simply “bad apples.”

    Hi Fi obviously graduated from the George W. Bush school of GOP talking points.

  51. What Now
    April 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Fuzzy Florida math.

  52. April 25, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Bloomberg.com posted this two days ago:

    The world’s largest retailer has been frequently sued by the government, its own employees and its customers in cases that have also included accusations of corruption, as well as discrimination and destruction of evidence.

    “Wal-Mart’s had a long history of legal conflict because they have a way of doing business that pushes the edges of what the law allows,” said James Post, a professor at Boston University School of Management. “Sometimes it goes over the line.” …

    In the six years before 2002, Wal-Mart was sanctioned 60 times by judges for concealing and destroying evidence, and for delaying customer lawsuits.

    In one case, a Texas judge in a sexual harassment case against Wal-Mart said of the company in 1996: “Rarely has this court seen such a pattern of deliberate obfuscation, delay, misrepresentation, and downright lying to another party and to a court. The court is shocked at this behavior.”

  53. Thorstein Veblen
    April 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Sure, all of those professors and judges think that. But not our Supreme Court, which last year favored WalMart in limiting class action discrimination lawsuits by women. Now its every woman for herself when it comes to taking on WalMart. A fair fight?

  54. High Finance
    April 25, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Everybody knows that when there is a class action law suit everybody jumps in to see if they can get any free money.

    You can cite any number of sexual harassment lawsuits as annectodal evidence. The fact remains, when you look at the number of employees (two million) I would bet the number isn’t out of line. Let’s compare that to the number of sexual harassment lawsuits filed against Heraldo’s business.

  55. Thorstein Veblen
    April 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Wow!!!

  56. Plain Jane
    April 25, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Further evidence that right wing elitists have a twisted moral compass.

  57. April 25, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Hi Fi missed the part where the judge said about WalMart: “Rarely has this court seen such a pattern of deliberate obfuscation, delay, misrepresentation, and downright lying to another party and to a court. The court is shocked at this behavior.”

  58. Jack Sherman
    April 25, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    What I wouldn’t pay to hear this blathering dimwit explain to his/her “wife” that her harassment at work is “anecdotal” and “within acceptable averages”.

    Every era had its deluded apologists for corruption and assorted tyrannies….while hammering the poor that were being victimized by it.

    Pity this fool.

  59. High Finance
    April 25, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    You speak as if Judges are all knowing beings Heraldo. Some are as big a fool as you.

    PJ, math is not your strong point is it ? (Neither is thinking).

    Jack, you take the cake, congratulations. You make even PJ look intelligent.

  60. What Now
    April 25, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    And “Fried is gettin’ to the bottom of his 5th on “over the hump day”…..

  61. April 25, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    You speak as if the world’s richest corporations are here to kiss our worries away, HiFi.

    Poor WalMart is the victim of mean women and dumb judges. Pity it.

  62. RefFan
    April 26, 2012 at 10:21 am

    When more than one judge says a stmt like you posted above then there might be reason to give it a second thought. Im sure many a judges have said something to that affect over time to other ppl, corps, businesses, etc.

  63. High Finance
    April 26, 2012 at 10:51 am

    That is the fatal mistake with your approach to life Heraldo and it is an afflication you share with all liberals.

    You think corporations are their to “kiss our worries away”. They are not. They are there to make money for their owners (the stockholders). They do so by providing goods & services the people want at a price the people are willing to pay.

    Everybody wins when the system works right. The people get the goods & services they wish, the owners make a return on their investment and provide jobs at the same time.

    Liberals accuse all corporations of being bad because some management of some corporations behave badly. Liberals want to be taken care of. They want government and big business to be their mommies and “kiss your worries away”.

    Be a grown up and give up your mommy fixation.

  64. Jack Sherman
    April 26, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    “They are there to make money for their owners (the stockholders), not to take care of liberals.”

    And, by God, if that means 30 years of shifting technical training and labor to foreign teens in nations without labor or environmental protections, the creation of offshore tax havens to hide the profits, and come crawling back to loot the U.S. Treasury …

    “Everybody wins when the system works right”.

    (“Fatal flaws and afflictions” of childish hypocrisy aside).

    Whatever you do, don’t blame corporate lobbyists and political contributions for all the toxins in the environment that caused this pitiful character’s dementia.

  65. April 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Liberals accuse all corporations of being bad

    Typical straw man argument from you, HiFi.

  66. gump
    April 26, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    I’ll bet Walmart’s sexual harassment lawsuit ratio to number of employee’s is less than the City of Eureka’s ratio.

  67. Jack Sherman
    April 26, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Use of public funds to settle public employee injuries has been around a long time.

    Subsidizing the world’s largest corporate employer’s wages with social services and healthcare is a relatively new and under-reported phenomenon.

  68. sentient@gmail.com
    April 27, 2012 at 8:58 am

    While I’d prefer to see no Wal-Mart this is not a huge victory for them. The primary reason they lost in the 1999 attempt was because they wanted to ruin our waterfront. That was soundly rejected, as it should have been.

    The site at the mall is a smaller Wal-Mart (with restrictions on expansion) and most importantly with a different location, on the southern outskirts of the city. The primary customer for this Wal-Mart is coming from the south, so Eureka will be once again drawing shopping revenue away from Fortuna, etc. As was pointed out earlier, the grocery options at Winco will easily compete with Wal-Mart and the location is more convenient.

    Probably this will knock-out K-Mart and affect nothing else. Also we should be thankful that they are adapting an existing space instead of building one of their notorious structures. If they leave this site at some point it will be usable for other retail, unlike most of their buildings.

    On the whole, this is a neutral for Eureka. I don’t like Wal-Mart and will not shop there, unless it’s going to be 24 hours in which case it may just come in handy at 3 in the morning someday. I really can’t get too worked up about this.

    How’s the Arkley waterfront project looking? Focus your energy there.

  69. Anonymous
  70. John Valenti
    April 28, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    The ignorance on this subject is widespread and inexcusable for an issue so thoroughly researched.

    No one should be “neutral” on welcoming another predatory business to their community, especially with WalMart’s cavalier hostility toward fundamental labor laws.

    More importantly, no nation, state, or rural community can sustain unlimited numbers of poverty wage jobs unless we discard the remainder of our social service, welfare, emergency services, infrastructure, health care, public housing, and education policies .

    Funny how some idiots complain about too few Americans paying income taxes, but they have no problem with adding millions more jobs that also won’t pay income taxes.

  71. Anonymous
    June 13, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Looking forward to being able to go to Walmart instead of Target!! I much rather shop at Walmart because they almost always have when I need when Target does not!

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