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Benefit for Eureka Fair Wage Act; Rooster McClintock, Jan 19

benefit_rooster_1_19_13Benefit for the Eureka Fair Wage Act, featuring “wild and local” honky-tonk band Rooster McClintock.

Saturday, January 19th at the Arcata Veteran’s Memorial Building (Vet’s Hall)

Music begins at 7:00pm

Brews from Mad River Brewing and Six Rivers Brewery

The Vet’s Hall is at 1425 J Street in Arcata

Tickets are $12 at the door.

Must be 21 or older to attend.

If you live in Eureka or Manila, a shuttle bus will leave the show at 11pm to return people home

A night of music and brews to raise the minimum wage!

The Fair Wage Graphics Contest winners will be announced during the January 19th benefit concert. Need not be present to win.

Raise a glass. Raise the roof. Raise the minimum wage!

for more information check out

http://fairwages.org or call 707-442-7465

http://eurekafairwageact.wordpress.com

info@fairwages.org

 

  1. Hmmm
    January 8, 2013 at 8:00 am | #1

    “Eureka residents active with Occupy Eureka, Veterans for Peace, Richardson Grove Action Now, PEOPLE PROJECT and Peoples’ Action for Rights and Community, filed the Eureka Fair Wage Act…”

    Why would Veterans for Peace align themselves with that crowd? There must be something I don’t know about the group.

  2. just middle class
    January 8, 2013 at 8:23 am | #2

    Lets see now, an event in Arcata to raise money for a ballot measure in Eureka. Odd if not sad. Should it be an Arcata Fair Wage Act? Oh, but that is not where WalMart is, the holy grail of evil and the target of the measure.

  3. Plain Jane
    January 8, 2013 at 8:32 am | #3

    It’s not the City of Arcata (or Eureka) paying for it, JMC, so where they hold their fundraiser is irrelevant. They undoubtedly choose the best venue for their purposes, whether that was location, price or availability. Why does it matter to you?

  4. just middle class
    January 8, 2013 at 9:35 am | #4

    If that is what you believe Jane. I see it as a measure of the viability of the movement.

  5. Ymm
    January 8, 2013 at 9:36 am | #5

    so where they hold their fundraiser is irrelevant.

    Of course it’s relevant. What an absurd thing to assert.

  6. Plain Jane
    January 8, 2013 at 9:44 am | #6

    Why is that a measure of their viability, JMC? Finding a venue for the right date, the right price and right size is much more important than the 8 miles between Eureka and Arcata. Your desperation to discredit the cause is obvious.

  7. January 8, 2013 at 10:05 am | #7

    This was discussed in our tuesday public meetings at the Labor Temple so here is what I remember.

    First we picked a date. Then we found a band that would agree to work with us.
    Then we searched for a venue either to rent or for free and we found many of the ones we had considered using were booked, and one declined us. So that was a bit of a scramble.

    In retrospect, maybe we should have solidified the venue and date first, but it is hard to tell, because sometimes a good artist will influence the venue to work with you. And of course the limiting factor there is conflicting dates with the bands who might work with you. That could result in a scramble too.

    Well its grass roots hands on politics its not a perfect world.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  8. January 8, 2013 at 10:46 am | #8

    Hmmm :
    Why would Veterans for Peace align themselves with that crowd? There must be something I don’t know about the group.

    I suspect Veterans For Peace is one of those groups formed ostensibly for one reason, but really to promote any number of left wing causes. It’s a recruiting tool. For instance, MoveOn dot org: supposedly formed to get congress to move on from Clinton’s Zippergate affair (which I agreed with). Then they get your name and contact info and start sending e-mails urging action on just about any left wing cause celebre’ of the day.

    There’s other groups that do the same thing, although none come to mind off the top of my head. I get e-mails from both right and left wing groups. I don’t know that I can think of any right wing groups that expand their message to other causes as the left wing groups do. Maybe they should?

  9. January 8, 2013 at 10:53 am | #9

    Hello Fred,

    i think two of the signed proponents are members of Vets for Peace but the organization has not endorsed the Eureka Fair Wage act or taken any stance on it. That is my understanding and it is all public knowlege. I don’t think our committee has even asked for their endorsement,.

    This is just my recollection from our public meetings Fred. I’m not exactly senile like Ronald Reagan but I do smoke pot for medical, spiritual and sometimes recreational purposes.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  10. Dan
    January 8, 2013 at 11:32 am | #10

    Arcata Vets Hall, immediately across from Mr. Arkleys’ childhood home.
    Seems as a fitting place for this fundraiser for the underpaid. Good luck.

  11. just middle finance
    January 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm | #11

    Bootstraps! We don’t need the government to get in the way of Freedom of Commerce. We need a truly free market, no minimum wage and no government interference. Minimum Wage today, Maximum Wage tomorrow. Put the “Free” back in “Free Enterprise”, get out of our way!!!

  12. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 12:08 pm | #12

    Plain Jane :
    It’s not the City of Arcata (or Eureka) paying for it, JMC, so where they hold their fundraiser is irrelevant. They undoubtedly choose the best venue for their purposes, whether that was location, price or availability. Why does it matter to you?

    Eureka for Eurekans. Why don’t you Arcata & Bayside people foul your own towns and leave us alone?

  13. January 8, 2013 at 12:16 pm | #13

    We do have a few nice people from Sohum and once from Arcata visit our meetings.but the core group are all Eurekans. By law, we have to be, in order to legally circulate the petitions.. Some bullshit can be tippie toed through without waders. That being said Arcata and Bayside people are always welcome if they like the idea of raising wages.

    haa

  14. That Man
    January 8, 2013 at 12:23 pm | #14

    @Fred and other people’s

    The Eureka fair wage is bipartisan; we have people from all over the political spectrum involved. This is just a viable solution; for both people and the economy. I’m on the right; and yet involved deeply in the Fair wage.(i am so not Liberal; I’m an independent, gun toting environmentalist) this is about doing something that will work. call it spurt up economics or consumer side economic. history shows us that raising the minimum wage improves the economy. it is time for all of us Republicans to move away from Reagan economic policies; and call them what they are a mega epic failure. teddy had the right idea,..as usual.

    the following is an except from Confession of Faith by Theodore Roosevelt
    August 6, 1912 (in my opinion on of the Greatest Republicans Ever..)

    “We hold that under no industrial order, in no commonwealth, in no trade, and in no establishment should industry be carried on under conditions inimical to the social welfare. The abnormal, ruthless, spendthrift industry of establishment tends to drag down all to the level of the least considerate.

    Here the sovereign responsibility of the people as a whole should be placed beyond all quibble and dispute.

    The public needs have been well summarized as follows:

    1. We hold that the public has a right to complete knowledge of the facts of work.

    2. On the basis of these facts and with the recent discoveries of physicians and neurologists, engineers and economists, the public can formulate minimum occupational standards below which, demonstrably, work can be prosecuted only at a human deficit.

    3. In the third place, we hold that all industrial conditions which fall below such standards should come within the scope of governmental action and control in the same way that subnormal sanitary conditions are subject to public regulation and for the same reason–because they threaten the general welfare.

    To the first end, we hold that the constituted authorities should be empowered to require all employers to file with them for public purposes such wage scales and other data as the public element in industry demands. The movement for honest weights and measures has its counterpart in industry. All tallies, scales, and check systems should be open to public inspection and inspection of committees of the workers concerned. All deaths, injuries, and diseases due to industrial operation should be reported to public authorities.

    To the second end, we hold that minimum wage commissions should be established in the nation and in each State to inquire into wages paid in various industries and to determine the standard which the public ought to sanction as a minimum; and we believe that, as a present installment of what we hope for in the future, there should be at once established in the nation and its several States minimum standards for the wages of women, taking the present Massachusetts law as a basis from which to start and on which to improve.”

  15. just middle finance
    January 8, 2013 at 12:32 pm | #15

    “The Eureka fair wage is bipartisan” government mandated oppression. Fight for a Free Market, not more government laws. Bootstraps! Business owners are free to make as little or as much money without any government bureaucrats interfering. The employees deserve to have the same freedom.

  16. Yup
    January 8, 2013 at 12:51 pm | #16

    The employees deserve to have the same freedom.

    Employees do have that freedom. Government isn’t imposing a salary cap on employees, and employees have the right to choose their employer.

  17. Yup
    January 8, 2013 at 12:53 pm | #17

    we have people from all over the political spectrum involved.

    Great! Tell us what conservatives you have involved in this movement, because I believe you are lying. Prove me wrong.

  18. January 8, 2013 at 1:28 pm | #18

    I have sat across the table from him at our meetings and he has stated that he is a conservative why should I accuse him of lying? I do not.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  19. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 2:35 pm | #19

    Plain Jane…..I’m glad to see you’re back. Word on the street was that you were in rehab.

  20. Don’t lie to me
    January 8, 2013 at 6:02 pm | #20

    highboldtage :
    I have sat across the table from him at our meetings and he has stated that he is a conservative why should I accuse him of lying? I do not.
    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

    “he” . Liar. Name names.

  21. Anonymous
    January 9, 2013 at 4:38 am | #21

    if HB and PJ were part of this planning, no wonder it’s a circle jerk . Maybe they should get Al Gore to help.

  22. January 9, 2013 at 8:43 am | #22

    Credible, serious initiative campaigns are not executed by blog identities. There is more involved than posting up opinions no matter how astute. We in the campaign working group are real people. You are very confused.

    As far as I know PJ is not involved but of course she would be welcome at our meetings. If we make the ballot I hope she votes for it.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  23. Anonymous
    January 9, 2013 at 9:25 am | #23

    highboldtage :
    Credible, serious initiative campaigns are not executed by blog identities. There is more involved than posting up opinions no matter how astute. We in the campaign working group are real people. You are very confused.
    As far as I know PJ is not involved but of course she would be welcome at our meetings. If we make the ballot I hope she votes for it.
    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

    Take your serious campaign self to Arcata. Bet you couldn’t even get it passed there.

  24. January 9, 2013 at 9:43 am | #24

    Over 50% of Republicans and almost 70% of Democratis nationwide think the minimum wage should be raised above $10.00 an hour so I think there is at least a chance it will pass if it makes the ballot.

    I would be happy to see the workers in Arcata organize to raise their wages and if they do I will give them what support I can but I am focused on improving the city I live in. I am no longer convinced that I as an individual have any voice in Washington DC or Sacramento but I can make a difference here locally.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  25. That Man
    January 9, 2013 at 2:06 pm | #25

    Don’t lie to me :

    highboldtage :
    I have sat across the table from him at our meetings and he has stated that he is a conservative why should I accuse him of lying? I do not.
    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

    “he” . Liar. Name names.

    i am conservative (well -ish); i believe in individual liberty and am opposed to Government interference in personal lives. however corp. ain’t peeps. and are not giving the same freedom as the individual a well regulated economy is essential to peoples quality of life and well the economy its self. their has never been a nation that did not regulate Business; because every society knew that was poisonous. i also campaign against gun-control, against Taxing individuals, (not businesses) against unlawful laws that take away individual liberties, against censorship and government invading privacy. i still have some what of National ride although America has disappoint me; to the point that i am a secessionist and wish to have California leave the union.

    i am consider my self a Roosevelt Republican

    The great Divide [according to me]
    chose / order
    Freedom / Slavery
    Liberty / Justice
    Right / left

    TyrannyTyranny

    (if you can’t comprehend this you have not meditated enough on it)

    -Dane

  26. That Man
    January 9, 2013 at 2:10 pm | #26

    i apologize i accidentally HTML the great divide

    Tyranny-Anarchist-Libertarian-Plutocrat-Nazi-Theocrat–Libertarian-Conservative-republican- me-[the fence]-Democrat-Green–Socialist–Communist-Stalinist-Fascist-Plutocrat-Tyranny

    i am going to get an earful for placing the anarchist on the right, but think about it no governments but local governments everything in small scale, do the farming your self, tribalism is as bout as conservative as being Amish.

  27. joe west
    January 9, 2013 at 9:47 pm | #27

    I see the out of Eureka breweries are supporting higher wages in Eureka. One way to put their competition out of business.

  28. Mitch
    January 9, 2013 at 9:59 pm | #28

    Bravo, That Man / Dane, for seeing beyond the automatic groupings that the labels “liberal” and “conservative” are supposed to yield. I especially like that you point out that liberty and justice are in opposition. Both are important values, but they are values that are in natural conflict, and they must be balanced for any society to work. Extreme left and extreme right both yield tyrannies.

    Maybe we should view the supposed political spectrum as a clock circle, with the center at 12 noon and tyranny at 6 pm, with a clockwise route routing passing through the Libertarians and a counterclockwise route going past the Greens.

  29. Come One, Come All
    January 10, 2013 at 12:12 pm | #29

    “Tickets are $12 at the door.
    Must be 21 or older to attend.”
    So if people are squeekin by living on minimum wage, they can afford this?
    “21 or older”? Much of the exploited class is 21 or younger.
    This already sounds like a government program inaction, um, errr, in action.

  30. Anonymous
    January 12, 2013 at 9:49 am | #30

    The working poor will have to work for an hour and a half in order to pay the cover charge & go to bill’s party.

  31. January 12, 2013 at 10:43 am | #31

    Come One, Come All :
    “Tickets are $12 at the door.
    Must be 21 or older to attend.”
    So if people are squeekin by living on minimum wage, they can afford this?
    “21 or older”? Much of the exploited class is 21 or younger.
    This already sounds like a government program inaction, um, errr, in action.

    WALMART AND THE MINIMUM WAGE

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

    link here: http://urlet.com/treat.brains or

    http://eurekafairwageact.wordpress.com/2012/11/21/walmart-and-the-12-minimum-wage-frequently-asked-questions/

    Q. WalMart will just pass this cost along to us, won’t they? Won’t they just raise their prices?

    A. No, this is a myth. A study last year showed that even if Walmart applied a $12 an hour minimum wage to all of its hundreds of thousands of employees nationwide, and passed along 100% of the cost to its customers, that the price rise would be insignificant.

    http://eurekafairwageact.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/study-how-a-12-00-an-hour-wage-standard-would-impact-walmart-workers-and-shoppers-2/

    Q. If a $12.00 an hour minimum wage is so good for the economy, why don’t we just make it $50.00 an hour?

    A. First of all, we are not asking for $50.00 an hour, your question is a red herring. Secondly, what we say, and what the research has proved, is that a modest rise in the minimum wage produces a modest gain in the local economy, regardless of the minimum wage in surrounding regions.

    Q. Won’t Walmart just lay off a few employees to pay for this? People will lose their jobs.

    A. No. Walmart prides itself on being a lean, low-cost operation. They are already running at minimum staff levels. They are already understaffing, underpaying and overworking their employees.

    Q. Won’t this just drive the larger employers out of Eureka?

    A. No. Eureka is the economic, political and population center of Humboldt County and the surrounding region. Thousands of workers commute into Eureka every working day. But if this unlikely effect starts to occur we will work to extend this minimum wage protection to all the workers of Humboldt County.

    Q. How would this benefit local small businesses?

    A. Local businesses with 25 employees or fewer will be exempt from this ordinance. On the other hand a significant portion of their customers will have a few thousand dollars more to spend locally every year.

    Q. Isn’t this just more welfare?

    A. No. The benefits of a higher minimum wage go to people who are workers, obviously.

    Q. How do higher, fairer wages benefit the local community?

    A. Higher wages paid to local workers circulate locally and grow the local economy. It is money that is not airlifted to Bentonville, Arkansas (and sucked out of our local economy forever) or spent on a multi-million dollar CEO salary somewhere else.

    Q. How much cash would flow to the local economy under this ordinance?

    A. If there are 1,000 local employees covered under this ordinance, then we estimate there will be at least $2.5 million annually pumped into the local economy through higher, fairer wages, and the multiplier effect will amplify the gain.

    Q. Wouldn’t $12.00 an hour be the highest minimum wage in the United States?

    A. Yes, but the Eureka Fair Wage Act will only apply to large businesses with the resources to support it. Minimum wage laws in other localities apply generally to all employers large and small or only to employers with government contracts. We think our approach makes more sense both socially and economically and more closely fits our common local Humboldt ethos.

    Q. Don’t minimum wage laws result in higher unemployment? Employers will fire employees to cover the cost of paying higher wages, won’t they? Isn’t that an ironclad law of economics?

    A. No. Human history is clear that periods of high employment coincide with periods of high wages. This was true 500 years ago, 1,000 years ago, and 2,000 years ago, as far back as civilization began. In the United States, workers real wages as a percentage of GDP are at a 70 year low, while real unemployment and corporate profits are at 70 year highs. The fact that there are millions of people seeking work and there are not enough jobs for them is a fault in the predatory capitalist economy that is unrelated to wages.

    Contact the Eureka Fair Wage Act Campaign

    Contact: James Decker (707) 442-7465

    info@fairwages . org

    http://fairwages . org

  32. January 12, 2013 at 10:47 am | #32

    Anonymous :
    The working poor will have to work for an hour and a half in order to pay the cover charge & go to bill’s party.

    The Tiered Minimum Wage in Theory and Practice

    The theory behind the tiered minimum wage (and here we refer to a two tiered minimum wage, increased only for larger employers, not for smaller employers) is clear. Many recent studies have shown that the majority of minimum wage workers work for very large businesses with adequate financial resources to pay a high minimum wage of $12.00 to $15.00 an hour. We are in an era of extraordinarily high corporate profits, and it coincides with an era when workers are getting the smallest percentage in wages of the value of the product of their labor in a half century. We call the large employers the formal economy.

    Smaller businesses, that we call the informal economy, are family & friends businesses for the most part. When we talk about raising the minimum wage it is important to remember that it is not only small business owners who resist raising the minimum wage, but it is often employees of these small businesses who also oppose us. Both of them are fearful of business failure and loss of employment. This is the practice part. It is our experience that this fear cannot be overcome. Thus we in the minimum wage movement must honor this informal economy (both the business people and the employees) and give exemption to smaller businesses in minimum wage laws and ordinances. Yes it is a compromise, but there are a certain number of people who want and enjoy flexibility in their work arrangements and alternative wage arrangements and find them in the informal small business context. This is a historic compromise between the idea of government regulation of business and deregulation. In this case, large businesses are regulated, while small businesses are deregulated.

    With this understanding we then need to ask “What is a small business?” When we started our dialog here in Eureka at the beginning of the Eureka Fair Wage Act campaign our initial figure was 100 employees. Through discussion with fellow activists and other community groups including organised labor our figure was soon reduced to 25 employees. It seemed to stick there. And now that we are out in the community it is a figure that seems to raise very little controversy. The number 25 employees or more seems to resonate with the public as a reasonable distinction between a small business and a large business.

    So if there is a sweet spot, a Goldilocks number, a magic number for two tiered minimum wage proposals, it is likely somewhere between 20 and 50. It is interesting that Santa Fe New Mexico, with its increased minimum wage, has an exemption for less than 25 employees as well. We arrived at that same number through independent means.

    It has been very easy to get signatures in support of the two-tiered minimum wage. We are almost certain we will make the ballot in March with it. By going to a two-tier minimum wage we have assuaged a good portion of the concern from the small business community. Indeed, many of them start to see higher wages for large enterprises as a benefit for smaller local businesses. This is a wedge issue, but it is the people’s wedge issue.

    Contact the Eureka Fair Wage Act Campaign

    Contact the Eureka Fair Wage Act Campaign

    Contact: James Decker (707) 442-7465

    info@fairwages.org

    http://fairwages.org

  33. HUUFC
    January 12, 2013 at 11:22 am | #33

    Balkanization, look it up. This exercise raising the minimum wage is exactly that. Only Eureka, for some business, exempt others, no effect on state, or federal government, what a waste of time.

  34. Anonymous
    January 12, 2013 at 11:36 am | #34

    HUUFC :
    Balkanization, look it up. This exercise raising the minimum wage is exactly that. Only Eureka, for some business, exempt others, no effect on state, or federal government, what a waste of time.

    Similar to when states change their tax laws and/or labor laws to “attract” jobs from neighboring states? Or is a race to the bottom OK, just not the reverse?

  35. Anonymouse
    January 13, 2013 at 8:43 am | #35

    Q. If a $12.00 an hour minimum wage is so good for the economy, why don’t we just make it $50.00 an hour?
    A. First of all, we are not asking for $50.00 an hour, your question is a red herring. Secondly, what we say, and what the research has proved, is that a modest rise in the minimum wage produces a modest gain in the local economy, regardless of the minimum wage in surrounding regions.

    If a modest rise in the minimum wage produces a modest gain in the local economy then why not a large rise so we can produce a large gain?

    Blackjack dealers should not try to pass themselves off as economic experts.

    One more point Professor, this would be quickly tossed out by the courts if it should pass. It is obviously discriminatory against larger businesses.

  36. Anonymous
    January 14, 2013 at 9:42 pm | #36

    Obviously bill does not want to think past his cliches’ and answer tough questions. To do so would invalidate all of his beliefs and prejudices.

  37. Dan
    January 15, 2013 at 9:10 am | #37

    Obviously #31 answered questions- without cliches.
    Union organization (Retail Clerks) requires only 50% plus 1.
    Education of workers to their rights could save us from becoming
    a land of underpaid workers at Piggly Wiggly Stores (Walmarts). Visit Carolina’s or Texas’
    right to work stores. It’s pure crap.
    Hell, even Henry Ford knew his success depended on workers earning enough
    money to buy the product they were producing.

  38. Nach
    January 15, 2013 at 9:57 am | #38

    #30 has just made the amazing discovery that poor people are too poor to attend fundraisers.

    Maybe its time to give the poor people a raise.

    Whaddya think?

  39. HUUFC
    January 15, 2013 at 10:55 am | #39

    No it’s time for the poor people to stop doing what makes them poor, then they can go to the fundraiser.

  40. Dan
    January 15, 2013 at 11:22 am | #40

    No HUUFC, it’s time for you to wake-up.
    Bill Moyers hosts Krugman this week.
    Try to listen. Then come back and talk of austerity.

  41. HUUFC
    January 15, 2013 at 11:26 am | #41

    Sorry, I have listened to Moyers and Krugman in the past and their left wing baloney will not darken my door again.

  42. Just kick me in the head
    January 15, 2013 at 12:22 pm | #42

    Krugman wants even higher deficit spending to spur the economy despite the fact it has failed miserably these last four years. Why should anyone listen to him now?

  43. Smart 5th Grader
    January 15, 2013 at 12:23 pm | #43

    Nobody is forcing people to apply for work at businesses which pay minimum wage. Everyone is free to work where they can find work. Why do people think passing another law makes them have more freedom? Why do people trade their labor for less than a living wage? The government spends much more than it has, people need much more money than they are willing to require from their employers. A perfectly dysfunctional system. Head down to Spend*Mart and see if you can’t help spend your way out of our recession. Buy, buy, buy, consume, consume, consume. But never insist on being paid what your labor is worth. Beg the government for help. Help me Washington DC, help me!

  44. Dan
    January 15, 2013 at 5:47 pm | #44

    Smart 5th Grader, It is physics of economy.
    We have in essence removed the life blood of our economy when we shipped our manufacturing overseas while destroying “american wage” with non union jobs.
    Now we need to “recharge” (stimulate) or it will crash.
    Decent billionaires would do this on their own of course but it is better to assure the
    workers with a labor union.

  45. HUUFC
    January 15, 2013 at 7:35 pm | #45

    And why are all Apple products made overseas, mostly in China? Maybe it’s because Apple wants to sell a I phone for $400 instead of $1200. Maybe it is based on economics and the bottom line of the company to maximize profits so Apple can create an I phone 6.

  46. Anonymous
    January 15, 2013 at 9:08 pm | #46

    Just kick me in the head :
    Krugman wants even higher deficit spending to spur the economy despite the fact it has failed miserably these last four years. Why should anyone listen to him now?

    Failed miserably? Do you have any idea of how deep a recession we would have gone into without the Recovery Act stimulus and related spending? Jesus tapdancing Christ, we’re not talking about you managing your fucking credit card bill or household budget here.

  47. Critical thinker
    January 16, 2013 at 9:36 am | #47

    Anonymous :

    Just kick me in the head :
    Krugman wants even higher deficit spending to spur the economy despite the fact it has failed miserably these last four years. Why should anyone listen to him now?

    Failed miserably? Do you have any idea of how deep a recession we would have gone into without the Recovery Act stimulus and related spending? Jesus tapdancing Christ, we’re not talking about you managing your fucking credit card bill or household budget here.

    We’re not talking about dancing the subject you appear to know a lot about. We are talking about condemning our children & grandchildren’s generations with making payments on the national debt caused by the greed of this generation’s hunger for more handouts. Already the payments on the national debt consume a huge piece of the federal budget. Soon it will consume the majority of the budget.

    It is simple economics, a subject of which you know nothing about.

  48. Dan
    January 16, 2013 at 10:12 am | #48

    Critical Thinker, Why it is the government cannot fail on
    its debt, hint-our debt is denominated in dollars and we own the press. Period.

    Remember post WW1 the Treaty of Versailles penalizes Germany and denominates the penalty in Deutsche Marks, Germany merely turned on the presses.

    Hell to pay, but this is the reason why we are not Greece or Spain or Ireland, our
    debt is denominated in OUR currency.
    Is this what you meant by ‘simple.’?

  49. January 16, 2013 at 12:41 pm | #49

    UPDATE Attn: Small Businesses in Eureka & Humboldt: Wal-Mart Is Going to Crush You……

    Ray’s Food Place to close in Crescent City

    Written by Kyle Curtis January 16, 2013 10:48 am

    The Ray’s Food Place grocery store in Crescent City is closing as of Feb. 3, the store’s owners announced Wednesday.

    The decision was made “due to an increased presence of retail competitors and the continued decline in the economic climate,” parent company C&K Maket, Inc. said in a press release.

    http://www.triplicate.com/News/Breaking-News/Rays-Food-Place-to-close-in-Crescent-City

    Let’s DO THE MATH.

    100,000 ADDITIONAL SQUARE FEET of retail space is equal to one hundred (100) 1,000 square foot “shoppes” in Old Town or fifty (50) 2,000 square foot “shoppes” in Old Town, Fortuna, Arcata, Cutten, or even twenty-five (25) 4,000 square foot “emporiums” in the Henderloin or anywhere else in Humboldt County. These retail spaces will become redundant. Surplus. Vacant.

    Or maybe you think we have too many shoppes and emporia in Eureka, Arcata, Fortuna, Garberville, and elsewhere in Humboldt County?

    Get the Picture?

    from The Tripllicate Crescent City

    The wait’s nearly over. After more than a year of shifting store merchandise and non-stop construction, Walmart will begin inviting shoppers into its newly expanded store on Wednesday. The expansion adds nearly 100,000 square feet to the Crescent City Walmart, said store manager Nick Gonnella. The new Walmart Supercenter will include a full grocery store with a deli and a bakery as well as produce, meat and dairy departments. The newly remodeled store will also include a hair salon, a Subway and a new Java Hut, Gonnella said.“We’re one of the largest expansions square footage-wise in all of California,” he said. “We started as a pretty small Walmart store and to grow by 100,000 square feet was no easy task.”

    http://www.triplicate.com/News/Local-News/Supercenter-cuts-ribbon-Wednesday

    Contact the Eureka Fair Wage Act Campaign

    Contact: James Decker (707) 442-7465

    info@fairwages.org

  50. January 17, 2013 at 9:14 am | #50

    83% of New Yorkers Support Raising the Minimum Wage!

    Proposed minimum wage hike more popular, survey says
    by Rick Seltzer

    1/17/2013 10:44:00 AM

    The latest survey of New York’s registered voters from the Siena (College) Research Institute (SRI) shows growing support for raising the state’s minimum wage, division over hydrofracking, and increasing opposition to new casinos.

    SRI’s polling, conducted in January and released this morning, found 83 percent of registered voters backing an increase in New York’s minimum wage. Support is up from 80 percent in August.

    Opposition to a minimum wage hike also fell. It dropped to 15 percent in the latest poll, down from 17 percent in August.

    The changes are within the survey’s margin of error, which is plus or minus 3.8 percentage points. But support hit its highest level ever measured by SRI this January, and it has been trending up in two surveys since June of 2012.

    “On increasing the minimum wage, there is overwhelming bipartisan support,” SRI pollster Steven Greenberg said in a news release.

    via the Greater Binghampton Business Journal:

    http://www.tgbbj.com/Channels/Technology/tabid/162/itemid/17933/sourcemid/504/Proposed-minimum-wage-hike-more-popular-survey-says/

    Defending the Community

    $12.00 An Hour Minimum Wage for Large Employers

    http://fairwages.org

  51. HUUFC
    January 17, 2013 at 9:54 am | #51

    Question, do you support a living wage, yes. Do you want free health care, yes. Do you want high speed rail, yes, Do you want indians to have all their land back, yes, Do you want free education through college, yes. Do you want prisons reduced, yes. Do you want the military reduced, yes. Do you want the grizzley bear back in their native habitat in California where it was exterminated by unthinking gold seekers, yes.

    Ask the question the way you want the answer to be and you will get a worthless survey. Stop wasting your time on this useless quest and support real businesses coming to Humboldt County that pay well.

  52. January 17, 2013 at 10:05 am | #52

    A $12 minimum wage will not stop any “real businesses coming to Humboldt County that pay well” because logically if they pay well they pay more than $12 an hour. Any such business that is on your wish list would be unaffected.

    Please think things through before you waste our precious pixels.

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