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Thought for the Day

obamaFrom commenter “Dan,” who says “lifted from the AVA.”

“If Dwight Eisenhower had come back from the war and decided to run as a Democrat– which he almost did– there would be no Republican Party today. They would be like the Ku Klux Klan small knots of hate- crazed rich people scattered in walled ghettos around the country, instead of the dominant ruling autocracy that they have been for most of the last four decades.”

– Hunter S Thompson,

(Lifted from this weeks AVA.)

  1. January 17, 2013 at 6:51 am

    AVA = ????

  2. Plain Jane
    January 17, 2013 at 6:58 am

    Anderson Valley Advertiser, CB.

  3. Plain Jane
    January 17, 2013 at 6:58 am
  4. Anonymous
    January 17, 2013 at 7:15 am

    Hunter Thompson had a drug addled brain. Most KKK were members of the Democratic Party when Eisenhower ran for office.

  5. January 17, 2013 at 7:16 am

    Thank you, PJ!

  6. Ponder Z
    January 17, 2013 at 7:18 am

    Hunter S. Thompson certainly enjoyed his gun rights. I wonder what he would think of Barry’s socialist agenda?

  7. Ponder Z
    January 17, 2013 at 7:19 am

    HST was not a fan of the commy party.

  8. Ponder Z
    January 17, 2013 at 7:25 am

    Only the rich can aford toys like this. Us poor folk in Kalifornia have to stick with semi autos.

  9. January 17, 2013 at 8:09 am

    Anonymous :
    Most KKK were members of the Democratic Party when Eisenhower ran for office.

    Good point.

  10. Plain Jane
    January 17, 2013 at 8:15 am

    And now they’re all members of the Republican party. Our gain, your shame.

  11. George Lopez
    January 17, 2013 at 8:23 am

    Indeed!

  12. Plain Jane
    January 17, 2013 at 8:29 am

    Even worse is that the GOP actively courted the racists that the Democratic party was glad to be rid of:

    http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy

  13. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 8:36 am

    And all of this from the lilly white community of Humboldt County.

  14. Dan
    January 17, 2013 at 8:54 am

    “And now they’re all members of the Republican party. Our gain, your shame.” PJ

    Yes, indeed.

  15. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 8:55 am

    The KKK was originally formed as an arm of the democrat party to suppress the black and Republican vote in the South. I suppose it could be argued that, had it not been for the hatred and racism of the democrat party, the KKK may never have come to be.

  16. Dan
    January 17, 2013 at 9:20 am

    JW does it matter? #15
    Even if you were correct, what is your point?

    Republican Richard Nixon once offered up a
    comprehensive health
    plan which would have been a dream come true.
    It failed due to D’s who thought we could do better.
    “One of the most cherished goals of our democracy is to assure every American an equal opportunity to lead a full and productive life.” RMN 1974
    “-Additional family costs for medical care would vary according to need and use, but in no case would a family have to pay more than $1,500 in any one year for covered services. ”
    CHIP (Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan).
    “Without adequate health care, no one can make full use of his or her talents and opportunities. It is thus just as important that economic, racial and social barriers not stand in the way of good health care as it is to eliminate those barriers to a good education and a good job” CHIP

    I am much more concerned with who the Party is now.

    http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2009/september/03/nixon-proposal.aspx

  17. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Dan :JW does it matter? #15Even if you were correct, what is your point?
    Republican Richard Nixon once offered up acomprehensive healthplan which would have been a dream come true.It failed due to D’s who thought we could do better.“One of the most cherished goals of our democracy is to assure every American an equal opportunity to lead a full and productive life.” RMN 1974“-Additional family costs for medical care would vary according to need and use, but in no case would a family have to pay more than $1,500 in any one year for covered services. ”CHIP (Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan).“Without adequate health care, no one can make full use of his or her talents and opportunities. It is thus just as important that economic, racial and social barriers not stand in the way of good health care as it is to eliminate those barriers to a good education and a good job” CHIP
    I am much more concerned with who the Party is now.http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2009/september/03/nixon-proposal.aspx

    Gee Dan…..the thread was about the KKK, and all of the libs tying it to the Republican party. My point was that the democrat party created the Klan. If you question the accuracy of that statement, look it up. How you turned it into something about Nixon must be the “Hey….Look Over Here” liberal diversion tactic.

  18. Plain Jane
    January 17, 2013 at 9:33 am

    That cretin’s “thought” processes are so warped that it can’t understand that the KKK arose in reaction to freeing the slaves, not because of a political party. They blamed the Republican party for their losses so joined the Democrats who didn’t have a choice to accept them or not. They were widely known as Dixiecrats because their politics were so distasteful to the rest of the party. Democrats were the party of civil rights so the racists (thankfully) abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP en masse. Good riddance. The GOP is still courting them and using racist dog whistles which gives them deniability, but only with idiots.

  19. HUUFC
    January 17, 2013 at 9:42 am

    The term racist is a useless term because of it’s continuous and erroneous overuse.

    It is interesting to read postings from obama’s water carriers on the blog’s and in the media as they come up with stories to deflect attention from his performance as the worst President this country has ever seen. Come Monday he is off and running for his final term, when he will have more flexibility to fundamentally change the United States.

    More debt than every other President before him.

  20. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Wanna piss off a liberal? Tell them the truth!It works every time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95aQshvaAII

  21. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 9:59 am

    That the “Dixiecrats” became Republicans is a lie that liberal like to perpetuate. The truth is quite different. 93% of the Dixiecrats remained democrats for life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJsPsU55PM

  22. Plain Jane
    January 17, 2013 at 10:03 am

    You gotta pity someone who learned history from you tube.

  23. Just Wanking
    January 17, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Are there Klan members who are, or were, Democrats? – Yes
    Are there Klan members who are, or were, Republicans? – Yes
    Does either party currently support the actions of the Klan? – No.
    Does being affiliated with either party make you a Klan member or Klan supporter? – No
    End of discussion.

    I use to enjoy this blog, but threads like this are just stupid. I’d describe myself as liberal, but I have constructive discussions/debates with conservative friends. We actually learn from each other. This type of idiotic “thought for the day” does very little to promote that type of dialogue. What’s next? – “child molesters tend to be more conservative/liberal – discuss”.

  24. Dan
    January 17, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Wanker, I hope you’ve washed your hands.
    I did not mean this to be about the KKK or Thompson.
    There is an elephant in the room, we are not behaving
    as reasonable citizens taking care of schools,
    taking care of the elderly, the needy, the environment-
    our government is being blamed while Wall Street fuckheads
    rob us blind. It is so stupid- its has to be racial.

  25. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Plain Jane :You gotta pity someone who learned history from you tube.

    When caught in a lie, this is how BJ always responds. And here are some numbers on BJ’s version of history where she says that “Democrats were the party of civil rights ” Regarding the Civil Right Act of 1964, 18 democrats filibustered the Senate against the act for 54 days. In the end, 21 democrat senators voted against, vs. 6 Republicans. In the House, it was 91 democrats against, vs. 35 Republicans. Any more lies for the day BJ?

  26. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Dan :Wanker, I hope you’ve washed your hands.I did not mean this to be about the KKK or Thompson.There is an elephant in the room, we are not behavingas reasonable citizens taking care of schools,taking care of the elderly, the needy, the environment-our government is being blamed while Wall Street fuckheadsrob us blind. It is so stupid- its has to be racial.

    Dan ….. you violated liberal rule #1 : you didn’t blame George Bush. They may take away your libtard card.

  27. Dan
    January 17, 2013 at 11:24 am

    “you violated liberal rule #1 : you didn’t blame George Bush.” #26

    Tsk. The virus that that rots the R’s is rooted in Ronnie R.
    When James Watt was appointed to head the EPA that was the first
    (domestic) volley. Anti-government disrupting government. Game on.

  28. Mitch
    January 17, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Bill Moyers on LBJ and the Civil Rights Act:

    When he signed the act he was euphoric, but late that very night I found him in a melancholy mood as he lay in bed reading the bulldog edition of the Washington Post with headlines celebrating the day. I asked him what was troubling him. “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come,” he said.

    And Wikipedia’s breakdown of the House and Senate votes on the Civil Rights Act:

    By party and region
    Note: “Southern”, as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. “Northern” refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.
    The original House version:
    Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
    Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
    The Senate version:
    Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%)
    Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

  29. Hmm
    January 17, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Most KKK were members of the Democratic Party when Eisenhower ran for office.

    And what is the predominant political affiliation of KKK members today? Yeah, you know the answer. And which of the two parties do they vote for in elections? Yeah, you know the answer. Not Democrats.

  30. HUUFC
    January 17, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Like I said, water boys and dog washers.

  31. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Since libs on here tend to get their panties in a bunch when a statement isn’t accompanied by data or statistics, could someone please show me the data that verifies the political party affiliation of KKK members. Please…..no assumptions or opinions, just the facts.

  32. Mitch
    January 17, 2013 at 11:59 am

    JW,

    Is your point that the southern Democratic Party was the home of racists 50+ years ago? If that’s your point, you are factually correct. As we all know, though, the attitudes of the parties have shifted over the past fifty years. LBJ’s push for civil rights was only one reason.

    Here’s a partial answer to your question:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/04/white-supremacists-running-for-political-office-in-2012-in-growing-numbers.html

  33. 21st Century
    January 17, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Plain Jane :
    Even worse is that the GOP actively courted the racists that the Democratic party was glad to be rid of:
    http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy

    Only non informed & prejudiced people think the South is more racist than the rest of the country. Shame on you and get your head out of last century.

  34. 21st Century
    January 17, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Hmm :

    Most KKK were members of the Democratic Party when Eisenhower ran for office.

    And what is the predominant political affiliation of KKK members today? Yeah, you know the answer. And which of the two parties do they vote for in elections? Yeah, you know the answer. Not Democrats.

    KKK is so early last century. Today their numbers are tiny and they are irrelevant.

  35. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Mitch :JW,
    Is your point that the southern Democratic Party was the home of racists 50+ years ago? If that’s your point, you are factually correct. As we all know, though, the attitudes of the parties have shifted over the past fifty years. LBJ’s push for civil rights was only one reason.
    Here’s a partial answer to your question:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/04/white-supremacists-running-for-political-office-in-2012-in-growing-numbers.html

    Mitch…. your link pretty much confirms that white supremacists might be running for offices, but they are losing. Don’t forget…..David Duke ran for President as a democrat in 1988.Sure….there are going to be isolated incidents where these whack jobs win some low level local election. But tying the entire Republican party to the KKK is like tying all African Americans to the Black Panthers. And trotting out a 30 year old Lee Atwater video is pathetic.

  36. Mitch
    January 17, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    JW,

    I didn’t trot out the Atwater video, but trotting it out seems worthwhile since the party has clearly followed Atwater’s suggestions for the past generation.

    The GOP is reaping what it has sown, and it absolutely deserves to do so.

  37. Just Watchin
    January 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Mitch :JW,
    I didn’t trot out the Atwater video, but trotting it out seems worthwhile since the party has clearly followed Atwater’s suggestions for the past generation.
    The GOP is reaping what it has sown, and it absolutely deserves to do so.

    It was BJ that trotted out Atwater once again. And I’m surprised that you so closely link all black americans with the black panthers. But living in lilly white Humboldt, it may be a subject that you are not familiar with.

  38. Mitch
    January 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    JW,

    I’m not sure what you’re talking about w/r/t the Black Panthers — haven’t seen the video. But here’s a relevant quote from Atwater:

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/blackskeptics/2012/11/13/lee-atwater-breaks-down-the-gop-southern-strategy-in-1981/

  39. Anonymous
    January 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Atwater is as irrelevant to current events as you are.

    If we were so specious as you insist on being, we would trot out quotes from Bull Connor (a Democrat) and smear your party with your affiliation with him.

    But then we would be sinking down to your & PJ’s level and what would that accomplish?

  40. Anonymous
    January 17, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    PJ and Mitch are the worst form of racists. They are also as dumb as a sack of rocks. My God, people lets try to act like adults.

  41. Dan
    January 17, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    To #40

    I’ve not always agreed with PJ or Mitch,
    but they were always adult-like AND INTERESTING.
    You are not.
    Always PJ and Mitch were insightful,
    you are not.
    Never were they dumb or racist,
    but #40 I think you are.

  42. January 17, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    Just keep dividing each other. Meanwhile the machine keeps plugging away. When was the last time there was a president and congress that was truly liberal or conservative? Never! The divide is an illusion and you all bickering here simply perpetuate it. Until Americans can work together there will be no change for any of you. Just a side to be angry with.

  43. Mitch
    January 18, 2013 at 6:37 am

    #39,

    Lee Atwater was adviser to Reagan and Bush I, and chairman of the national Republican Party.

    Bull Connor was Commissioner of Public Safety of the city of Birmingham, Alabama.

    I see a bit of a difference in relevance there.

  44. The Great Anonymous
    January 18, 2013 at 7:04 am

    Mitch :
    #39,
    Lee Atwater was adviser to Reagan and Bush I, and chairman of the national Republican Party.
    Bull Connor was Commissioner of Public Safety of the city of Birmingham, Alabama.
    I see a bit of a difference in relevance there.

    And they are very similiar in that both have been dead for decades and lived in another century, another era.

    Both are completely irrelevant to anything going on today except for the most extreme partisans.

  45. Mitch
    January 18, 2013 at 7:30 am

    TGA,

    Atwater advised the President in the 1980s and managed GHW Bush’s 1988 Presidential campaign. We are still living with the results of the strategies he championed in the GOP.

    Bull Connor died in 1973. We are still living with the results of MLK’s exposure of his brutality.

  46. January 18, 2013 at 8:25 am

    It’s Howdy Doody time!

  47. The Great Anonymous
    January 18, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Mitch :
    TGA,
    Atwater advised the President in the 1980s and managed GHW Bush’s 1988 Presidential campaign. We are still living with the results of the strategies he championed in the GOP.
    Bull Connor died in 1973. We are still living with the results of MLK’s exposure of his brutality.

    That is about as extreme as Bette Midler blaming the nation’s mental health crisis on Ronald Reagan who hasn’t held office in 25 years!

    For God’s sake, man up and accept blame. Obama & the Democrats seem unable to do that.

  48. Just Walking Away
    January 18, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    I use to enjoy this blog, but threads like this are just stupid. I’d describe myself as liberal, but I have constructive discussions/debates with conservative friends. We actually learn from each other. This type of idiotic “thought for the day” does very little to promote that type of dialogue. What’s next? – “child molesters tend to be more conservative/liberal – discuss”.

    Yeah, I agree. All good thinks come to an end. Just walk away and let JW jerk off to his own reflection.

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