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(Guest post by Stephen  Lewis. Mitch is posting it, which does not imply agreement.  Please note that comments up to #14 were posted prior to the material below appearing.  Any replies to further comments, including replies by Stephen, may not appear until morning due to Word Press’ moderation system.)

Let’s start off with the non-legitimacy of Zionist Jewish claims to Palestine based on their Bible story histories. Might as well repost this:

Speaking of Judaism and that those Tanakh quotes borrowed no doubt as most of the rest mainly from ancient pagan wisdom sayings, Judaism has no, repeat no, spiritual or moral authority for anyone who is unwilling to take the wisdom of liars as they wish to be taken.

You see, moviedad, Judaism is toast now with the archeological discoveries by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman at Megiddo convincingly show. (see The Bible Unearthed video on You Tube). They prove to me with my own small anthropological training that the people who wrote the Torah/Tanakh stories were the proto-types of Hollywood Jewish scriptwriters telling whoppers about a fabulous history of Hebrews in the Holy Land that never happened. All those stories of Abraham the “Hebrew” supposedly giving Canaan to the Israelites? The Moses and Exodus story? The filthy rich and powerful Greater Israel kingdoms of David and Solomon? All made up, all fables, all only Jewish myths of origin that were taken by Pauline Christians and Muslims as real history. We Gnostic Jewish and Gentile Christians never did go for the Bible for our spiritual foundation. Not even the Bible God of Israel which turns out to be the Fraud of Israel.

Oh, did I not mention, the people who wrote the Bible, Hebrews, cannot be traced as a group separate from Canaanites until 700 B.C.. Not 1800 BC with Abraham, not 1400 BC with Moses, not 1000 BC with David and Solomon but 700 BC. This is why there’s no spiritual authority in Judaism. You can’t get spiritual authority from liars and their lies.

With the Jews only established in 700 BC this means ancient Israel’s real existence as an independent nation lasted less time than the U.S.A. has been a nation. First Assyrians wipe Israel out, then Cyrus reestablishes it, then the Romans come in and make a vassal state of israel before kicking most all the Jews out by the beginning of the 2nd century A.D.

Arab Palestinians being in Palestine continuously since the Jews were kicked out and actually long before as Canaanite remnant population (yes, they existed in Jesus’ time-see the Gospels) the non-Jewish Arab/Canaanite population has clearly the much longer claim to occupancy of Palestine. Canaan existed over 3000 years as an identifiable community referred as such in ancient texts. Arabs as the majority population in Palestine for at least 1800 years. And this isn’t even taking into account us Ashkenazim Khazar kingdom Jewish converts with zero historic claim to anything outside of Uzbekistan.

  1. Eric Kirk
    January 20, 2013 at 3:38 pm | #1

    You’re gonna be sorry!!

  2. Uhh
    January 20, 2013 at 4:03 pm | #2

    Oh, please don’t make me start liking Israel by having Steve spout off. I’d like to pull all military funding from that country, but I just know Steve is going to make me think twice if he’s anywhere close to sharing my opinion.

  3. Sunny Side
    January 20, 2013 at 4:30 pm | #3

    Steve, you’re getting your 15 minutes of fame if you want it. You have a chance to make a cogent argument and show your true colors to potential allies–people who may be persuadable. But your true colors will be on display for all to see. Are you anti-Semite? Pro-Palestinian? Both? Neither? (Keep in mind, if you will, that reasonable people of goodwill can be both pro-Semite [btw Palestinians are also "Semites"] AND anti-apartheid.)

    Good luck.

  4. January 20, 2013 at 5:10 pm | #4

    Regarding the above nonsense: Providing Mitch and Eric are NOT a pair of deviate, dishonest liars. Right you two? Anyone forget what Eric does for a living?

  5. inquisitive child
    January 20, 2013 at 5:14 pm | #5

    Steve who? what ? When? Where? Why???

  6. January 20, 2013 at 5:22 pm | #6

    IC,

    See the MLK thread (“Towards Remembering…”) for details.

    Eric,

  7. A pesky fact
    January 20, 2013 at 5:53 pm | #7

    Oh man.

    In going to enjoy this.

  8. That Man
    January 20, 2013 at 6:25 pm | #8

    all i have to say is

  9. January 20, 2013 at 7:07 pm | #9

    I think casting ‘the Sorcerer’ as the western nations that created the modern state of Israel and Mickey’s problem as the unintended consequences of both parties’ actions interesting (that was what you were thinking?). But I don’t get The Veins ref. and what is gained by listening to something one can’t understand? I’m to take #8′s word for it that the posted vid proves – what?
    Jeez………..

  10. Steve Lewis
    January 20, 2013 at 8:37 pm | #10

    Let’s start off with the non-legitimacy of Zionist Jewish claims to Palestine based on their Bible story histories. Might as well repost this:

    Speaking of Judaism and that those Tanakh quotes borrowed no doubt as most of the rest mainly from ancient pagan wisdom sayings, Judaism has no, repeat no, spiritual or moral authority for anyone who is unwilling to take the wisdom of liars as they wish to be taken.

    You see, moviedad, Judaism is toast now with the archeological discoveries by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman at Megiddo convincingly show. (see The Bible Unearthed video on You Tube). They prove to me with my own small anthropological training that the people who wrote the Torah/Tanakh stories were the proto-types of Hollywood Jewish scriptwriters telling whoppers about a fabulous history of Hebrews in the Holy Land that never happened. All those stories of Abraham the “Hebrew” supposedly giving Canaan to the Israelites? The Moses and Exodus story? The filthy rich and powerful Greater Israel kingdoms of David and Solomon? All made up, all fables, all only Jewish myths of origin that were taken by Pauline Christians and Muslims as real history. We Gnostic Jewish and Gentile Christians never did go for the Bible for our spiritual foundation. Not even the Bible God of Israel which turns out to be the Fraud of Israel.

    Oh, did I not mention, the people who wrote the Bible, Hebrews, cannot be traced as a group separate from Canaanites until 700 B.C.. Not 1800 BC with Abraham, not 1400 BC with Moses, not 1000 BC with David and Solomon but 700 BC. This is why there’s no spiritual authority in Judaism. You can’t get spiritual authority from liars and their lies.

    With the Jews only established in 700 BC this means ancient Israel’s real existence as an independent nation lasted less time than the U.S.A. has been a nation. First Assyrians wipe Israel out, then Cyrus reestablishes it, then the Romans come in and make a vassal state of israel before kicking most all the Jews out by the beginning of the 2nd century A.D.

    Arab Palestinians being in Palestine continuously since the Jews were kicked out and actually long before as Canaanite remnant population (yes, they existed in Jesus’ time-see the Gospels) the non-Jewish Arab/Canaanite population has clearly the much longer claim to occupancy of Palestine. Canaan existed over 3000 years as an identifiable community referred as such in ancient texts. Arabs as the majority population in Palestine for at least 1800 years. And this isn’t even taking into account us Ashkenazim Khazar kingdom Jewish converts with zero historic claim to anything outside of Uzbekistan.

  11. Verbena
    January 20, 2013 at 8:44 pm | #11

    End U.S./Israeli Terror
    Support Palestinian Liberation

  12. Steve Lewis
    January 20, 2013 at 8:50 pm | #12

    I am glad Mitch finally relented to my relentless anti-Zionist onslaught. I can be a tad fanatical about it but, heck, it is a damn good cause, stopping the 65 years of Palestinian needless holocaust at the hands of my co-religionist Zionist Jews and their Evangelical Christian supporters.

    You know that I look around and note us Jews at the heads of most all important Humboldt County activist venues. Another one established at NEC I assume and another one at Sanctuary Forest promoting another one’s field study. And then there’s the periodic Holocaust promotion, the current play. For being only 2% of the population we sure manage to run things the 98% probably have no idea of the extent of Jewish control over American policies. Like the silence here in Humboldt about Israel on these Progressive blogs which I think reflects the power of Jewish activism here to stop inquiry into Jewish political manipulation of America and Jewish manipulation of American economics that keep America at war with Israel’s enemies who sit on huge oil fields, the largest in the world that oil men want to get their paws on so a diabolical pact has been formed between oil and Zionism.

  13. HUUFC
    January 20, 2013 at 8:51 pm | #13

    Yep those peace loving muslim palestinians will sure be happy when they get their own country, maybe they will become civilized.

  14. January 20, 2013 at 10:08 pm | #14

    Verbena, you’re welcome to a guest post too. Choose any topic, keep it to 500 words, label it “my guest post,” and post it to quick notes. HUUFC, you too.

    Regarding what Steve says in the post…

    …any Jewish claim to the land of the State of Israel based on Jewish occupancy of the land during biblical times strikes me as ridiculous. So does any Jewish claim to the State of Israel based on God’s will, which ought to be pretty obvious to anyone who knows I am an atheist.

    I do, however, believe there are highly valid reasons for a Jewish homeland in the State of Israel. (There’d be far more valid reasons for a State of Israel in land now occupied by the nation of Germany, but that was a power-political non-starter for reasons of European and European Christian anti-Jewish bigotry.)

    If I understand correctly that Stephen believes Jesus Christ is God incarnated and the savior of mankind, then I think Stephen can only call himself Jewish in the same sense I do, that of having been born to parents who practiced Judaism (or to parents whose parents once practiced Judaism, etc., etc.).

    I would not characterize my facilitation of Stephen’s guest post as relenting to a relentless anti-Zionist onslaught, as he appears to suggest in #12. Let’s just say I have my own reasons.

    I’m not interested in arguing any of this here. Take that as you will.

  15. Eric Kirk
    January 20, 2013 at 11:59 pm | #15

    Stephen claims to have taken a blood test which revealed him to be of Jewish ancestry.

    Felix – the Sorcerer’s Apprentice reference was to Stephen and his relentless anti-Semitism, which will become apparent in due course. He will keep it in some kind of check for a few posts, and then if somebody posts a video of Simon and Garfunkle he’ll rant about how Mrs. Robinson is a Jewish attack on Christianity. And it won’t end.

  16. A pesky fact
    January 21, 2013 at 5:19 am | #16

    Steve,

    Could you elaborate more about the role of the Jews in banking, both national and international?

  17. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:44 am | #17

    Ah, pesky, I could but I’m a rank amateur in following the ins and outs of Jewish majority ownership of the Fed Reserve banks for instance, corps like Goldman-Sachs, and the European banking connections I have no idea about. Only know that again us 2% of the populations sure do show up in high level finance and financial scams way out of proportion to our numbers and one can’t attribute the brain concentration factor because any gene pool that favors family higher education will produce smart people, e.g. the Asians and the Scots when they universalized public education and produced a ton of new inventors. I mention this to counter Jewish tendency to glorify Jewish smart people who’ve been selectively breeding for smarts for generations as rabbis were the most preferred of Jewish fathers.

    Eric makes light of my “blood test” dna report but it was done by the same outfit that National Geographic used for their Human Genome study. It was kinda amazing to see all the Ashkenazim and even Sephardic ancestry my mom had. From all over Europe with Mizraim Sephardic from Tunisia and Libya. But I’m still mostly Gentile in heredity and raised Gentile for sure. I count myself Jewish because I am by Jewish definition having more Jewish genes than a great many Israeli Jewish immigrants have for example. And if one believes the historical Jesus was probably Yeishu ben Pantera, he too was a half-breed Jew but founder of Christianity to which I’ve added a new Christian paradigm–Celestial Torah Christianity (http://biomystic.org/celestialtorah.htm) that shows the Messiah/Christ/Anointed One idea is as old as the hills and stars above–traceable back to Sumeria and ancient Egypt. Which makes Celestial Torah Christianity able to survive the End Times of all Abrahamic religions based on Bible stories being real history.

  18. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:46 am | #18

    Last post of mine was censored.

  19. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:49 am | #19

    Pisses me off to have to create another email identity in order to post here with Mitch filtering my emails out each time. Last post was another longwinded Steve Lewis one and now I have remember what it said.

  20. January 21, 2013 at 6:46 am | #20

    “Ancestry.com” is making new “Jews” and “Indians” every day.

  21. January 21, 2013 at 7:15 am | #21

    Steve at #18 and #19,

    Your post at #17 was in the spam folder. I have retrieved it and posted it for you, just as I’ve retrieved #18 and #19 from the Word Press moderation queue. Sometimes I go to sleep, which will explain the delay in its recovery.

    I did try to note possible delays in my introduction to your essay, the first paragraph of the post. Despite that, it took you less than two minutes (from 5:44 in the morning to 5:46 in the morning) to report my “censorship” or, to be more accurate, to attempt to report my “censorship” but to land once again in the moderation queue, an indication that the moderation system does not use email addresses but must use IP addresses. To get past it, you could probably post from a library or coffeehouse.

    I’m sorry for the delay in getting your analysis presented to its audience.

    There may be delay again, even until well into the afternoon, because I might not check either the Herald or my email to discover you’ve had messages diverted to the spam and/or moderation queues.

    If you ever get to wondering about my inclination to think you are insane, feel free to recall this message.

  22. Anonymous
    January 21, 2013 at 7:18 am | #22

    If the Jewish history (Old Testament) is nothing but lies, then the New Testament which was built on the Old, can’t be true either and neither can the Quran since it uses the same history and prophets as the Old Testament.

  23. January 21, 2013 at 7:40 am | #23

    Gotta say – the ‘unintended consequences’ metaphor for the Sorcerer was more entertaining then Steven is. No kind of authority and not entertaining…….he’s just plain mashugana!!!!

  24. January 21, 2013 at 7:41 am | #24

    pesky @ #7,

    I take no pleasure in this. I don’t consider it funny, I consider it sad, somewhat equivalent to Kevin Hoover’s police blotter. But I’m continuing to experiment with ways to deal with my still-somewhat-startling situation w/r/t the Herald. One line of such experiments is how to best deal with the crazy people. I tried active moderation for a while and it was both an abject failure and an extremely unpleasant experience for me. So I’m trying, roughly, its opposite. There will probably be other experiments if I keep at this.

    Oh yeah. My video response to Eric’s Sorcerer’s Apprentice. I confess I just googled the words “maybe I will, maybe I won’t” and that turned up the video. But I was completely enchanted by the song’s bubble-gum pop cheerfulness, its lyrics — which occasionally stray back into meaning (the wind blows and goes), and by the reappearance of The Monkees right here in 2013. Watch their video for “Take a Vacation” if you wonder what I mean.

  25. A pesky fact
    January 21, 2013 at 7:44 am | #25

    Steve,

    So, it’s the genetics of these Jews that causes such behavior?

  26. A pesky fact
    January 21, 2013 at 7:48 am | #26

    Links also raise the chance of wordpress thinking something is spam. Referencing a link in a post, then placing that link as your URL can avoid this, as can referencing links via number citation, then putting those links, numbered, in a second post.

    When approval is given, it will then appear immediately following your original post.

    I am a master in the art of combox moderation warfare.

  27. Jen
    January 21, 2013 at 7:50 am | #27

    I hardly ever comment but I most definitely take issue with this rhetoric. I’m so glad your genome has proven your ancestry. Congratulations. It doesn’t matter. You are (despite the big words and scientific language) perpetuating the kind of anti-Semitic talk that caused massacre after massacre in every century of human history. This rhetoric is the equivalent of “they poisoned the well”. Good for you. Let’s bring back the pomgroms to our civilization.
    I completely disagree with you not because I believe the bible is the “divine word of God” but because I don’t trust the motives of archaeologists or scientists who, more often, have their own agenda. Frankly, some scientists are as fanatical about their anti-religious leanings as the wacko Christian right which also irritates me.
    If we are going to base the right of one civilization over another based on genome. Then you, and every other European descendant that lay claim to this country need to move. Sixty-five year holocaust? What a joke. Let’s ask the Native Americans about “Holocaust”. The land given to them is chump change. It doesn’t make up for the destruction of their culture or of their people.
    You do realize that this is the same kind of language and arguments used by Nazi Germany, right?
    And I would like to point out to all Humboldt Herald readers that Stephan seems to be a Liberal. Not a conservative.
    By the way, saying the Palestinians have been there longer may be true, but there has been no “holocaust”. There HAS been a Jihad. The Jews have never declared their Muslim and Christian neighbor’s religion outlawed or shouted with guns raised “Kill the Muslims”. But we’ve seen that attitude again and again from those countries who see difference of religion as a killing offense.
    There were no anti-Muslim laws. There were no rounding up of Muslims and pasting a gold star on their jackets. I do not believe there has been a “holocaust”. Just two groups unable to live together on the same strip of land.
    Perhaps if you used your skills as an activist to find peace between the two groups rather than inciting more negative and dangerous rhetoric, we could find middle ground for everyone.
    I wish I could be amused by your commentary, but having read so many history books that contain the ugly and horrible truth about the violence and bigotry against Jews, I can’t.

  28. January 21, 2013 at 8:03 am | #28

    Jen,

    Historically, Muslim communities have been far more welcoming of Jewish minorities than Christian communities have been. It’s been Christian communities that conducted pogroms, forced Jews into ghettos, and restricted their ability to live and work freely. Obviously that does not apply to today’s Arab states, but they have been outraged and perhaps frightened by the sudden existence of the State of Israel in their midst, founded by the outcasts from the ultimate pogrom, who felt an understandable desire to escape from Christian Europe and the effect of Christianity as actually conducted in the actual world.

    But I believe you are correct that Stephen self-identifies as “progressive.” (I’m not sure what the difference is between liberal and progressive, but I know that people who identify as “progressive” sometimes consider “liberal” an insult.)

  29. January 21, 2013 at 8:09 am | #29

    People, grab a history book or five, then talk again.
    Pathetic.
    On all sides.

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  31. Anonymous
    January 21, 2013 at 8:42 am | #31

    It’s understandable that no political faction wants to claim Lewis as one of their own, but he has been denigrating those he labels “progs” for years now. Crazy, hateful people are their own faction and defy standard political labels.

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  33. January 21, 2013 at 9:29 am | #33

    Can I be anti-zionism and still not be anti-semitic? At least in the eyes of the jewish? Nationalism sucks no matter how you look at it, and religion fuels it. Fuck all that.

  34. January 21, 2013 at 9:41 am | #34

    bolithio asks, “Can I be anti-zionism and still not be anti-semitic? At least in the eyes of the jewish?”

    Well, I’m Jewish in the sense of being born of Jewish parents and having what I’d consider typical American secular Jewish values, attitudes, and behaviors. (Secular Jews may consider that statement laughable.) I’m also very pro-Israel and somewhat pro-Palestinian — certainly I feel some sympathy for Palestinian refugees, and I feel they have been ill-served by the world’s leaders, who treated Palestinian land in the 20th century just as they did North America in the 18th, 19th, and 20th — as unoccupied by anyone who “mattered.”

    I don’t believe being anti-Zionist is anti-semitic, but I do believe a lot of people hide their anti-semitism by calling it anti-Zionism.

    So I’d say yes, you can be anti-Zionist and not anti-semitic in the eyes of Jewish people.

    I don’t think it’s unusual, either, for the most fashionable young Jewish progressives to lead anti-Zionist groups, just as some may have led anti-apartheid collegiate groups in earlier days. It’s valuable to the anti-Zionist groups in much the same way that conservative blacks are highly valued and visible in the reactionary right. And being anti-Zionist, for some young Jewish progressives, may have the added appeal of pissing off their parents, a thrill that was unavailable to the anti-apartheid protesters.

  35. January 21, 2013 at 12:09 pm | #35

    Mitch and Steve, I thank you.It is refreshing to read fact instead of pure opinion which journalism and history have become. It is hard work ferreting out the truth, when most often it gets written without regard to it.

  36. January 21, 2013 at 1:16 pm | #36

    I believe–aqnd have always believed–If your religion mkes you a better person, it is a good religion for you!!!!three grandcildren were Mitzvaded- 0ne i converted Roman Catholic, one is Converted Byzabtine Catholic,one BAPTIST.FOUR ARE OPENMINDEDTHEY ARE AL
    GOOD PEOPLE–AND I AM PROUD OF THEM–

  37. Anonymous
    January 21, 2013 at 4:41 pm | #37

    Steven is still all butt-hurt from the well-deserved criticism he received when he became a shill for Charlie Hurwitz of Maxxam. The criticism he received came from environmentalists and “progressives.” Thus his obsession with “progs.” When I see that him whining about how, according to Steven, so many of the leaders of local progressive and environmental groups are Jewish (and I’m not sure if he means religion or ethnicity, and whether he’s just going by last names or has actually researched their ancestry or asked them about their ancesty and/or religion), it makes me wonder if his virulent anti-semitism might stem from the same decades-old grudge. In other words, Steven sucked up to Hurwitz, enviros and progs attacked him for it, Steven believes most local enviro and prog leaders are Jews, therefore (he believes) Jews attacked him, therefore Jews are bad, m’kay? And then the rest of it is just him looking for more reasons why Jews are bad.

  38. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 4:58 pm | #38

    Anonymous :
    If the Jewish history (Old Testament) is nothing but lies, then the New Testament which was built on the Old, can’t be true either and neither can the Quran since it uses the same history and prophets as the Old Testament.

    You got it. The New Testament is Pauline Christianity founded which means it’s doctrines are anchored in the Old Testament. In fact, in Gospels Fictions you can read how Gospel authors used Old Testament verses and themes to construct the Gospel stories around. Jesus was made to perform and surpass the miracles of Moses and Elijah for example. Pauline Christians are taught to take the Bible as fact but my Christianity’s roots are in Jewish and Gentile Gnosticism which never was Bible bound and even revolted against the Jewish god, Yahweh. I was led right at the start of my Christian walk in my original religious conversion experience at Easter 34 years ago up on Elk Ridge where I had our homestead, to take the Bible only allegorically as God informed me then it could not be used in itself for spiritual authority. And that was true then because I’d never have left my atheist science-knows-all prejudice against religion if I had to do the regular Pauline Christian, read the Bible, believe it’s the Word of God, confess your sins to Jesus and be saved routine to become a Christian believer. No, God had to do a rather more drastic spiritual boot camp on me, one that, just like Paul’s, lasted three days and was a doozy of non-stop synchronicity experiences, one right after the other, and all of them connecting me to this Abrahamic religious trail that I suddenly was also riding down to my great surprise. But not riding the way traditional Christians did but Gnostically as I found out a year later when the Nag Hammadi Library was published in English that had the Gnostic Gospels in them. God guides me through episodes of gnosis, spiritual communion with visions and revelations, big and small epiphanies, and a lot of synchronicity experiences tying these spiritual events together in my life.

    Such as having my friend up in the hills who I sometimes refer to as the most complete of homesteading environmentally, having his creeks and streams running clear even in the winter because of catching all the silt runoff through step-down catchment mini-ponds along the creeks, hand me this book in 1998 and saying, “Read this and tell me what you think.” It was Semitic Languages Prof. John Gray’s book, Near Eastern Mythologies and in it I found Jesus’ real heavenly Father, EL Elyon, God Most High, not as the Hebrews conceived their Most High makeover YHWH, but as the ancient Canaanites worshiped EL Elyon. A revelation because Canaanite EL was a swell God, the best one of the ancient male deities as far as I have found. Nothing like Yahweh who was actually the son of EL Elyon. Where EL presided over the Canaanite Divine Assembly as God Most High, Yahweh was assigned the Israelites, their tribal war god. Remnants of the old Canaanite pantheon relationship can be seen in Deuteronomy 32 in Hebrew and in Psalm 82 and 86. Here’s some Canaanite appellations of EL Elyon: “EL the Compassionate One”, no surprise there as even YHWH and ALLAH both killer revengeful gods claim that title, but try Canaanite “EL the Kindly One”, and “EL the Friendly One”. Canaanites felt so comfortable with their highest God they could and did make jokes about Him but still it was to EL that they turned for forgiveness of sins which EL seems to have granted with no fuss and bother. No Canaanite texts show EL ever condemning any human being to punishment as He ruled Creation through the lower gods and goddesses.

    I realized in 1998 that Christians finding out about EL Elyon faced a moral decision: which God are they going to follow–God Most High or YHWH. Can’t serve both at once and do justice to either one–Jesus’ wisdom on that. I called the choice in 1998, the “Armageddon Choice” because to me it was a huge deal breaker for New Testament spiritual authority. EL Elyon ruled the Divine Assembly and my Gnostic Christian revelations had for years been pointing to God restoring the Holy Family back to the Godhead as patriarchal Abrahamic religions had all but destroyed the Divine Feminine in it. Why “Armageddon”? Because the Canaanite name for their Divine Assembly was translated into Greek as “Armageddon”.

    In 2001 Israeli archeologist Israel Finkelstein and historian Neil Silberman publish their book, The Bible Unearthed which has the Megiddo digs and finding and conclusions in it that you can see in the updated video The Bible Unearthed–You-Tube. Megiddo is named after the Canaanite Divine Assembly. The Bible is toast and God led me to the place where prophesy came true in ways Pauline Christians never expected. See, God does use the Bible as They do lot’s of other religious means to get the Messages across at the times they will be furthered in some way for the future generations to use beneficially. That’s what I’m doing now: packhorsing the Christ Aquarius revelation information to future generations because it’s too new for ours except for the hippies who hear the spiritual Call of Aquarius. Paul Encimer hears it. Other Aquarian activists will too but I doubt Darryl Cherney ever will as he’s down on record with hate-speech against Jesus Christ.

    Oh yeah. Israel. I do not want to see any Israeli Jews pushed into the sea. A nearby well would suffice..no,no,no..I’m non-violent, all talk, tame as kitty, and have Israeli Jewish friends. I belong to a Palestinian Single State solution group as part of my Paxcalibur vision included an Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, that plan you can read at: http://biomystic.org/canaanpeaceplan.htm It has an an accompanying Protection Plan for Ethnic Groups which outlines a way fundamentalist religious communities can protect themselves from outsider interference in religious lifestyles deemed unfit for mass consumption, like orthodox Jews and Sharia Muslims. Or any threatened ethnic group.

    But Israel needs real democracy which again would spell its End Times. There it is: can’t exist as a Jewish State because Pals were there first and have by far the greater historical claim to their land as The Bible Unearthed data shows.

  39. January 21, 2013 at 5:23 pm | #39

    Do the Jews have a legitimate right to be accepted and recognized as a legal Nation State because they reject the Palestinian’s equal rights and the Palestinians do not because they refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the Jews existence? The sixty plus years of Israel’s existence proves and establishes the answer. Everything else is irrelevant nonsense.

  40. January 21, 2013 at 5:32 pm | #40

    @ Joeblow – you should know from irrelevant nonsense and you are incomprehensible as well……………

  41. January 21, 2013 at 5:33 pm | #41

    Showing your ignorance, Felix?

  42. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:34 pm | #42

    Lost that last post too, Mitch. Hope you can retrieve it.

    Oh, that you, Darry? Or is it Richard? Or maybe “Jewish Person” who Eric allowed to wish me death from cancer when I was battling it on his blog while censoring my defenses. After I publicly quit Redwood Summer after Darryl Cherney’s violent demonstration with the HSU professors annual meeting with timber company execs broke the Redwood Summer Non-Violence Code, Darryl went after me in a character assassination attempt much like what you read from “Anonymous” 37. One time Darryl got on KMUD and told listeners I had “married” into Pacific Lumber Company because I was dating a fellow Benbow Inn desk worker at the time who happened to be the cousin of John Campbell’s first wife. Darryl claimed on the air that she was John Campbell’s daughter. Laughable since they were only about seven years apart in age. Darryl didn’t stop there. When I was working for Bear River’s Tribal Council he came up there and talked to them when I wasn’t around and told them they should fire me because I was “a shill of Maxxam”. EPIC too, sent a their big shot at the time to shoot down Steve Lewis’ Headwaters buyout plan for Bear River that bypassed all the enviros and left them high and dry with no “We Saved Headwaters” icon bragging rights. What both Darryl and EPIC didn’t realize was that they actually cemented my positive relationship with Bear River because many of them were former loggers like Wayne Moon, my boss at the time, and they hated enviros.

    We had a damn workable, still workable economic way to buy out all of Maxxam’s Palco besides just Headwaters, with our statewide special Native American gaming rights allowable lottery system. And we couldn’t get any enviro support for it. They did such things as not only trying to get me fired from Bear River and stop our Heartlands Project from reaching the ears of outside environmental activists (everywhere we pitched our Heartlands Plan for saving Headwaters to environmentalists from out of the area they were highly surprised they hadn’t heard about us–this due to purposeful censorship of any Heartlands project news in enviro offices and publications like Eco-News. They meaning EPIC tried to take Heartlands project over through a proxy, Seventh Generation. There was a scene when Bear River walked out on that takeover attempt. Proggie then enviro Mark Lovelace was part of the old Humboldt Watershed Council that was another outfit that purposely went out of its way to bad-mouth Steve Lewis and Bear River’s Heartlands project. So my history of seeing how enviros and Proggies stoop to dirty tricks to stop competition in environmental and social problem solving, even willing to continue white people’s war to displace Native American’s from their land in order to claim glory as environmental protectors, seeing radical activism that champions human rights be utterly silenced in Humboldt County with so many Jewish activists as heads of social change orgs, well, I had to speak my peace as I see it. Prove me wrong about a Jewish over presence in local political orgs. I need to see proof I’m not seeing a long term Jewish cultural and economic war against Gentile society being conducted here in Humboldt County. And I am one of the last people in Humboldt County who can be honestly branded an “anti-Semite” because as most of you know, I’ve been running a pro-Semite, pro-Palestinian rights anti-Zionist blog for years now and have quite a few Palestinian Semitic friends while our 1984 Double-Speak
    Zionists here have zero Palestinian Semitic friendships if they speak truthfully to Arab peoples about the aims of Zionism.

  43. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:36 pm | #43

    None of my posts are going through, Mitch. Why continue censoring me with whatever software protocols you are using for me and not other commenters here?

  44. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:37 pm | #44

    Anonymous :
    If the Jewish history (Old Testament) is nothing but lies, then the New Testament which was built on the Old, can’t be true either and neither can the Quran since it uses the same history and prophets as the Old Testament.

    You got it. The New Testament is Pauline Christianity founded which means it’s doctrines are anchored in the Old Testament. In fact, in Gospels Fictions you can read how Gospel authors used Old Testament verses and themes to construct the Gospel stories around. Jesus was made to perform and surpass the miracles of Moses and Elijah for example. Pauline Christians are taught to take the Bible as fact but my Christianity’s roots are in Jewish and Gentile Gnosticism which never was Bible bound and even revolted against the Jewish god, Yahweh. I was led right at the start of my Christian walk in my original religious conversion experience at Easter 34 years ago up on Elk Ridge where I had our homestead, to take the Bible only allegorically as God informed me then it could not be used in itself for spiritual authority. And that was true then because I’d never have left my atheist science-knows-all prejudice against religion if I had to do the regular Pauline Christian, read the Bible, believe it’s the Word of God, confess your sins to Jesus and be saved routine to become a Christian believer. No, God had to do a rather more drastic spiritual boot camp on me, one that, just like Paul’s, lasted three days and was a doozy of non-stop synchronicity experiences, one right after the other, and all of them connecting me to this Abrahamic religious trail that I suddenly was also riding down to my great surprise. But not riding the way traditional Christians did but Gnostically as I found out a year later when the Nag Hammadi Library was published in English that had the Gnostic Gospels in them. God guides me through episodes of gnosis, spiritual communion with visions and revelations, big and small epiphanies, and a lot of synchronicity experiences tying these spiritual events together in my life.

    Such as having my friend up in the hills who I sometimes refer to as the most complete of homesteading environmentally, having his creeks and streams running clear even in the winter because of catching all the silt runoff through step-down catchment mini-ponds along the creeks, hand me this book in 1998 and saying, “Read this and tell me what you think.” It was Semitic Languages Prof. John Gray’s book, Near Eastern Mythologies and in it I found Jesus’ real heavenly Father, EL Elyon, God Most High, not as the Hebrews conceived their Most High makeover YHWH, but as the ancient Canaanites worshiped EL Elyon. A revelation because Canaanite EL was a swell God, the best one of the ancient male deities as far as I have found. Nothing like Yahweh who was actually the son of EL Elyon. Where EL presided over the Canaanite Divine Assembly as God Most High, Yahweh was assigned the Israelites, their tribal war god. Remnants of the old Canaanite pantheon relationship can be seen in Deuteronomy 32 in Hebrew and in Psalm 82 and 86. Here’s some Canaanite appellations of EL Elyon: “EL the Compassionate One”, no surprise there as even YHWH and ALLAH both killer revengeful gods claim that title, but try Canaanite “EL the Kindly One”, and “EL the Friendly One”. Canaanites felt so comfortable with their highest God they could and did make jokes about Him but still it was to EL that they turned for forgiveness of sins which EL seems to have granted with no fuss and bother. No Canaanite texts show EL ever condemning any human being to punishment as He ruled Creation through the lower gods and goddesses.

    I realized in 1998 that Christians finding out about EL Elyon faced a moral decision: which God are they going to follow–God Most High or YHWH. Can’t serve both at once and do justice to either one–Jesus’ wisdom on that. I called the choice in 1998, the “Armageddon Choice” because to me it was a huge deal breaker for New Testament spiritual authority. EL Elyon ruled the Divine Assembly and my Gnostic Christian revelations had for years been pointing to God restoring the Holy Family back to the Godhead as patriarchal Abrahamic religions had all but destroyed the Divine Feminine in it. Why “Armageddon”? Because the Canaanite name for their Divine Assembly was translated into Greek as “Armageddon”.

    In 2001 Israeli archeologist Israel Finkelstein and historian Neil Silberman publish their book, The Bible Unearthed which has the Megiddo digs and finding and conclusions in it that you can see in the updated video The Bible Unearthed–You-Tube. Megiddo is named after the Canaanite Divine Assembly. The Bible is toast and God led me to the place where prophesy came true in ways Pauline Christians never expected. See, God does use the Bible as They do lot’s of other religious means to get the Messages across at the times they will be furthered in some way for the future generations to use beneficially. That’s what I’m doing now: packhorsing the Christ Aquarius revelation information to future generations because it’s too new for ours except for the hippies who hear the spiritual Call of Aquarius. Paul Encimer hears it. Other Aquarian activists will too but I doubt Darryl Cherney ever will as he’s down on record with hate-speech against Jesus Christ.

    Oh yeah. Israel. I do not want to see any Israeli Jews pushed into the sea. A nearby well would suffice..no,no,no..I’m non-violent, all talk, tame as kitty, and have Israeli Jewish friends. I belong to a Palestinian Single State solution group as part of my Paxcalibur vision included an Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, that plan you can read at: http://biomystic.org/canaanpeace

  45. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm | #45

    None of my long posts go through but I have to use a different email address every time.

    try this one:

    Anonymous :
    If the Jewish history (Old Testament) is nothing but lies, then the New Testament which was built on the Old, can’t be true either and neither can the Quran since it uses the same history and prophets as the Old Testament.

    You got it. The New Testament is Pauline Christianity founded which means it’s doctrines are anchored in the Old Testament. In fact, in Gospels Fictions you can read how Gospel authors used Old Testament verses and themes to construct the Gospel stories around. Jesus was made to perform and surpass the miracles of Moses and Elijah for example. Pauline Christians are taught to take the Bible as fact but my Christianity’s roots are in Jewish and Gentile Gnosticism which never was Bible bound and even revolted against the Jewish god, Yahweh. I was led right at the start of my Christian walk in my original religious conversion experience at Easter 34 years ago up on Elk Ridge where I had our homestead, to take the Bible only allegorically as God informed me then it could not be used in itself for spiritual authority. And that was true then because I’d never have left my atheist science-knows-all prejudice against religion if I had to do the regular Pauline Christian, read the Bible, believe it’s the Word of God, confess your sins to Jesus and be saved routine to become a Christian believer. No, God had to do a rather more drastic spiritual boot camp on me, one that, just like Paul’s, lasted three days and was a doozy of non-stop synchronicity experiences, one right after the other, and all of them connecting me to this Abrahamic religious trail that I suddenly was also riding down to my great surprise. But not riding the way traditional Christians did but Gnostically as I found out a year later when the Nag Hammadi Library was published in English that had the Gnostic Gospels in them. God guides me through episodes of gnosis, spiritual communion with visions and revelations, big and small epiphanies, and a lot of synchronicity experiences tying these spiritual events together in my life.

    Such as having my friend up in the hills who I sometimes refer to as the most complete of homesteading environmentally, having his creeks and streams running clear even in the winter because of catching all the silt runoff through step-down catchment mini-ponds along the creeks, hand me this book in 1998 and saying, “Read this and tell me what you think.” It was Semitic Languages Prof. John Gray’s book, Near Eastern Mythologies and in it I found Jesus’ real heavenly Father, EL Elyon, God Most High, not as the Hebrews conceived their Most High makeover YHWH, but as the ancient Canaanites worshiped EL Elyon. A revelation because Canaanite EL was a swell God, the best one of the ancient male deities as far as I have found. Nothing like Yahweh who was actually the son of EL Elyon. Where EL presided over the Canaanite Divine Assembly as God Most High, Yahweh was assigned the Israelites, their tribal war god. Remnants of the old Canaanite pantheon relationship can be seen in Deuteronomy 32 in Hebrew and in Psalm 82 and 86. Here’s some Canaanite appellations of EL Elyon: “EL the Compassionate One”, no surprise there as even YHWH and ALLAH both killer revengeful gods claim that title, but try Canaanite “EL the Kindly One”, and “EL the Friendly One”. Canaanites felt so comfortable with their highest God they could and did make jokes about Him but still it was to EL that they turned for forgiveness of sins which EL seems to have granted with no fuss and bother. No Canaanite texts show EL ever condemning any human being to punishment as He ruled Creation through the lower gods and goddesses.

    I realized in 1998 that Christians finding out about EL Elyon faced a moral decision: which God are they going to follow–God Most High or YHWH. Can’t serve both at once and do justice to either one–Jesus’ wisdom on that. I called the choice in 1998, the “Armageddon Choice” because to me it was a huge deal breaker for New Testament spiritual authority. EL Elyon ruled the Divine Assembly and my Gnostic Christian revelations had for years been pointing to God restoring the Holy Family back to the Godhead as patriarchal Abrahamic religions had all but destroyed the Divine Feminine in it. Why “Armageddon”? Because the Canaanite name for their Divine Assembly was translated into Greek as “Armageddon”.

    In 2001 Israeli archeologist Israel Finkelstein and historian Neil Silberman publish their book, The Bible Unearthed which has the Megiddo digs and finding and conclusions in it that you can see in the updated video The Bible Unearthed–You-Tube. Megiddo is named after the Canaanite Divine Assembly. The Bible is toast and God led me to the place where prophesy came true in ways Pauline Christians never expected. See, God does use the Bible as They do lot’s of other religious means to get the Messages across at the times they will be furthered in some way for the future generations to use beneficially. That’s what I’m doing now: packhorsing the Christ Aquarius revelation information to future generations because it’s too new for ours except for the hippies who hear the spiritual Call of Aquarius. Paul Encimer hears it. Other Aquarian activists will too but I doubt Darryl Cherney ever will as he’s down on record with hate-speech against Jesus Christ.

    Oh yeah. Israel. I do not want to see any Israeli Jews pushed into the sea. A nearby well would suffice..no,no,no..I’m non-violent, all talk, tame as kitty, and have Israeli Jewish friends. I belong to a Palestinian Single State solution group as part of my Paxcalibur vision included an Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, that plan you can read at: http://biomystic.org/canaanpeace.

  46. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:49 pm | #46

    Such an ethically-challenged fraud Prog, Mitch. Folks, Mitch is still censoring my posts defending myself from smears. Chickenshit tactics, Mitch, real chickenshit. You and Eric, two people who don’t deserve anyone’s respect as you both stoop to unethical political dirty tricks against your opponents.

  47. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:57 pm | #47

    I’ve tried to post three big long posts about the religious foundations for my anti-Israel stand and also to defend myself against character assassination from someone I highly suspect is Darryl Cherney posting here as Anonymous 37. Mitch censored that rebuttal of mine and let’s the slander stand. Eric uses this same tactic. And its the tactics of those afraid to honestly face their critics because they know they’re political positions can’t be morally defended.

  48. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 5:59 pm | #48

    trying again..

    Anonymous :
    If the Jewish history (Old Testament) is nothing but lies, then the New Testament which was built on the Old, can’t be true either and neither can the Quran since it uses the same history and prophets as the Old Testament.

    You got it. The New Testament is Pauline Christianity founded which means it’s doctrines are anchored in the Old Testament. In fact, in Gospels Fictions you can read how Gospel authors used Old Testament verses and themes to construct the Gospel stories around. Jesus was made to perform and surpass the miracles of Moses and Elijah for example. Pauline Christians are taught to take the Bible as fact but my Christianity’s roots are in Jewish and Gentile Gnosticism which never was Bible bound and even revolted against the Jewish god, Yahweh. I was led right at the start of my Christian walk in my original religious conversion experience at Easter 34 years ago up on Elk Ridge where I had our homestead, to take the Bible only allegorically as God informed me then it could not be used in itself for spiritual authority. And that was true then because I’d never have left my atheist science-knows-all prejudice against religion if I had to do the regular Pauline Christian, read the Bible, believe it’s the Word of God, confess your sins to Jesus and be saved routine to become a Christian believer. No, God had to do a rather more drastic spiritual boot camp on me, one that, just like Paul’s, lasted three days and was a doozy of non-stop synchronicity experiences, one right after the other, and all of them connecting me to this Abrahamic religious trail that I suddenly was also riding down to my great surprise. But not riding the way traditional Christians did but Gnostically as I found out a year later when the Nag Hammadi Library was published in English that had the Gnostic Gospels in them. God guides me through episodes of gnosis, spiritual communion with visions and revelations, big and small epiphanies, and a lot of synchronicity experiences tying these spiritual events together in my life.

    Such as having my friend up in the hills who I sometimes refer to as the most complete of homesteading environmentally, having his creeks and streams running clear even in the winter because of catching all the silt runoff through step-down catchment mini-ponds along the creeks, hand me this book in 1998 and saying, “Read this and tell me what you think.” It was Semitic Languages Prof. John Gray’s book, Near Eastern Mythologies and in it I found Jesus’ real heavenly Father, EL Elyon, God Most High, not as the Hebrews conceived their Most High makeover YHWH, but as the ancient Canaanites worshiped EL Elyon. A revelation because Canaanite EL was a swell God, the best one of the ancient male deities as far as I have found. Nothing like Yahweh who was actually the son of EL Elyon. Where EL presided over the Canaanite Divine Assembly as God Most High, Yahweh was assigned the Israelites, their tribal war god. Remnants of the old Canaanite pantheon relationship can be seen in Deuteronomy 32 in Hebrew and in Psalm 82 and 86. Here’s some Canaanite appellations of EL Elyon: “EL the Compassionate One”, no surprise there as even YHWH and ALLAH both killer revengeful gods claim that title, but try Canaanite “EL the Kindly One”, and “EL the Friendly One”. Canaanites felt so comfortable with their highest God they could and did make jokes about Him but still it was to EL that they turned for forgiveness of sins which EL seems to have granted with no fuss and bother. No Canaanite texts show EL ever condemning any human being to punishment as He ruled Creation through the lower gods and goddesses.

    I realized in 1998 that Christians finding out about EL Elyon faced a moral decision: which God are they going to follow–God Most High or YHWH. Can’t serve both at once and do justice to either one–Jesus’ wisdom on that. I called the choice in 1998, the “Armageddon Choice” because to me it was a huge deal breaker for New Testament spiritual authority. EL Elyon ruled the Divine Assembly and my Gnostic Christian revelations had for years been pointing to God restoring the Holy Family back to the Godhead as patriarchal Abrahamic religions had all but destroyed the Divine Feminine in it. Why “Armageddon”? Because the Canaanite name for their Divine Assembly was translated into Greek as “Armageddon”.

    In 2001 Israeli archeologist Israel Finkelstein and historian Neil Silberman publish their book, The Bible Unearthed which has the Megiddo digs and finding and conclusions in it that you can see in the updated video The Bible Unearthed–You-Tube. Megiddo is named after the Canaanite Divine Assembly. The Bible is toast and God led me to the place where prophesy came true in ways Pauline Christians never expected. See, God does use the Bible as They do lot’s of other religious means to get the Messages across at the times they will be furthered in some way for the future generations to use beneficially. That’s what I’m doing now: packhorsing the Christ Aquarius revelation information to future generations because it’s too new for ours except for the hippies who hear the spiritual Call of Aquarius. Paul Encimer hears it. Other Aquarian activists will too but I doubt Darryl Cherney ever will as he’s down on record with hate-speech against Jesus Christ.

    Oh yeah. Israel. I do not want to see any Israeli Jews pushed into the sea. A nearby well would suffice..no,no,no..I’m non-violent, all talk, tame as kitty, and have Israeli Jewish friends. I belong to a Palestinian Single State solution group as part of my Paxcalibur vision included an Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, that plan you can read at: http://biomystic.org/canaanpeace

  49. January 21, 2013 at 6:29 pm | #49

    I think not. Jewish righteousness maybe.
    Equal rights and the right to exist are not comparable, so sorry.

  50. Mitch
    January 21, 2013 at 6:46 pm | #50

    Herald readers,

    I failed to check the spam folder, apparently for nearly two hours. Hopefully, all of Steve’s comments from 4:58 to now are present for your reading edification.

    I will check the spam folder at least once every 24 hours through Thursday and retrieve Steve’s posts. After that, I probably will no longer bother. Steve, if you wish, please post information about your blog, so that you may continue your dialogue with any interested Herald readers once I no longer wade into the spam folder.

  51. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 7:24 pm | #51

    Still more political manipulation of my posts by Mitch. Why the repeats of my posts that I sent and resent here? Only to bother readers and give an excuse for your further censorship of my posts on your blog. Because, dear Mitch, you are not a mensch and do not stand for anything but slimy politics at its worst for Humboldt citizens concerned with ethics in office and venues of community communication.

  52. Mitch
    January 21, 2013 at 7:31 pm | #52

    Steve,

    Now that your 500 words are up, I’m no longer reading your comments if they are longer than a sentence or two. I just go through the following process:

    1) Click the checkmark next to each post in the spam folder labeled Steve Lewis
    2) Go to the top and select “Bulk Action: Not Spam”, click “Apply”
    3) Go to the pending queue, where they now appear
    4) Again, click each checkmark
    5) Click “Bulk Action: Approve”, click “Apply”.

    It’s a mechanical approach.

    Once again, I’d advise you to share information about your blog by Thursday, after which I will probably not wade into the spam folder to retrieve your writing.

    Oh, you might be able to download software named Tor and install it in your browser. That will hide your IP address from Word Press’ moderation software.

  53. Anonymous
    January 21, 2013 at 7:32 pm | #53

    I’m not Darryl Cherney. But thanks for putting your grudge-holding and obsession on display for all to see, and for confirming my assertion that “Steven is still all butt-hurt from the well-deserved criticism he received when he became a shill for Charlie Hurwitz of Maxxam…”

    For someone who claims to be a Christian, you sure are light on forgiveness and heavy on bitterness, hatred, and grudge-holding. Lotsa luck with that.

  54. Steve Lewis
    January 21, 2013 at 7:38 pm | #54

    Folks, this thread is not about me even though Mitch and others are trying their best to make it so. It’s about Israel. What do you feel about Chuck Hagel and Israel worries. Think there’s any real change in Obama’s policy or is it just going stealth with another public good cop (America) bad cop Israel show hiding real pounding of Palestinian human rights with further Israeli Jewish occupation. For Jews only racist settlements are being pushed as never before in order to stop in way for a two-state solution to happen which is actually ok with knowledgeable Pals who always wanted their country back intact and not split down the middle with a European Jewish colony. .

  55. Anonymous
    January 21, 2013 at 7:45 pm | #55

    Here’s an experiment you might want to try, Steve. When you post something and it doesn’t immediately appear, try waiting a few hours, or even until the next day, before jumping to the conclusion that you’re being “censored” and before making a fool of yourself by re-posting it multiple times along with your whining about “manipulation” and all that.

    Mitch made it quite clear that he’s not “censoring” you, in fact he gave you a whole “guest post” of your own, and is taking the time to look in the moderation queue and the spam folder to free up any of your comments that end up in those places. But rather than take advantage of the opportunity to simply try to express your views and make yourself understood, instead you’re squandering the opportunity by endlessly squawking about “censorship” and repeatedly re-posting the same comments over and over.

    Again, try posting and then waiting a while to see if the comment appears a few hours later, or the next day, to give Mitch a chance to check the mderation queue and the spam folder. I think you will find that your comments will get posted just fine, and you’ll make at least somewhat less of a fool of yourself. If nothing else, at least you won’t come off as quite so paranoid and self-aggrandizing. Well, at least less paranoid and self-aggrandizing with respect to your “censorship” delusions…as far as the content itself, I can’t help you with that — it appears that you are your own worst enemy.

  56. Eric Kirk
    January 21, 2013 at 10:32 pm | #56

    You do realize that this is the same kind of language and arguments used by Nazi Germany, right?

    He’s quoted from Nazis in the past. Maybe inadvertently, because unfortunately the Nazi lines have made it onto some of the pro-Palestinian webpages. But he posted a list of quotes alleged to be in the Talmud, some of which were taken out of context, and some of which don’t even exist.

    I posted a bunch of links in response.

    http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/more-rumors-and-innuendo/

  57. January 21, 2013 at 10:55 pm | #57

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  58. Sunny Side
    January 21, 2013 at 11:26 pm | #58

    Ok, I couldn’t resist checking back in.

    Anonymous #55, thank you for trying to help. I bet you’d offer a hug too if you thought it might help.

    Steve, the Palestinians have gotten the shaft. Agreed. So have the Jews all too often. That can’t help but shape both cultures, and it makes finding a peaceful existence all the much more difficult. I don’t believe apartheid will achieve that peace, and is counter productive to the aims of Israelis. It’s possible to be pro-everybody. As far as a Jewish “plot” in Humboldt or elsewhere, well, you’re talking paranoid Nazi talk, and that’s where I get off your train.

    Mitch, I proclaim your experiment in dealing with unconventional views an unqualified success. I love that you’re not even censoring the other spam on this thread, the kind that we other wordpress blog admins are all too aware of (louis vitton and uggs, ugh). Thank you for slogging through those mundane tasks and especially for going to the effort to give people their own rope through radical anti-censorship. Fascinating. Well played, sir.

  59. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 3:23 am | #59

    Fair? You intellectual fascists don’t know the meaning of the word. In the first place, why is there a filter in place on Heraldo and SoHum Parlance to stop comments from Steve Lewis? You don’t like my political views, especially my criticisms of Progressive and enviro ethics and lack of social or economic vision and propensity to attack working class and poor Americans. In short, when you censor me, it is for political reasons. And political censorship is not OK in my book that’s longer than most you in social change activism, so as an elder I judge from experience. People who are willing to engage in censorship of political opponents when they achieve office cannot be trusted to keep the community’s need for freedom of speech intact, the only way for community members to see what others in their community are thinking and talking about. When inter-community communications are deliberated manipulated for political reasons we get social war because “sides” build up, “us” against “them”. Since career political activists’ political careers rise and fall just like military people’s do, on maintaining social war conditions, it all ends up costing the community in needless inter-community warfare.

    All of you who try to rid yourselves of my voice on these Prog venues need to know that it speaks for a great many Humboldt people who never come here to dialogue directly with the people so determined to put them out of work. Too much anger and not enough confidence in facing college educated yuppie types. I know this to be true because when I stood up for years for loggers against hypocrites like Darryl and EPIC mounting their phony “Timber War” to make a buck and name for themselves with the diversion of the Humboldt County environmental protection stream of local energy away from the places of worst eco-damage, homestead subdivision watersheds, and to the political target, Maxxam, causing 20 years of needless and severe damage to all streams coming out of homestead subdivisions. I started pointing this out in Redwood Summer and guess who hated me for it? And now, 23 years later, Earth First! doesn’t exist for all intents and purposes, Darryl’s got his money and homestead land, EPIC tries to stop any further homestead subdivision development.citing severe environmental damage to watersheds, and Scotia is a ghost town while Jewish Fisher Family billionaires sit on their redwood forest capital investment making them richer every day as the trees grow and the Humboldt County timber workers become extinct..until the rich Jewish Family decides our Humboldt County timber workers fate again when the market prompts cutting or heaven fall with Wall Street collapse.

    2% of America’s population. Hurwitz and Maxxam BoD, almost 100% Jewish. Darryl Cherney, Jewish, EPIC head Cecelia Jewish(?) Trees Foundation Tracy Katelman Jewish, Ken Miller Humboldt Watershed Council Jewish, Richard Salzman Jewish, Mitch Jewish, NEC head Jewish, Eric Jewish wannabe, Fisher Family Jewish, me Jewish. I won’t be convinced by posted comment denials that we Jews are way overly present in Humboldt County social and environmental political causes. I want to see real figures of membership in local Prog and enviro orgs to prove me wrong. Words won’t do it without facts behind them.

    And whoever it was who thinks I’m doing this stuff for revenge needs to look at why I work for the community, the whole community, and not just one minority segment of it that wants to control the majority. You attack my community’s economy, you attack Humboldt County workers and poor, you promote Zionist racism, you get Steve Lewis in your face.

  60. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 3:30 am | #60

    make that “we Jews are not overly present…”

  61. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 3:36 am | #61

    Since I can post I will. You get these longwinded posts because I can’t post regularly like the rest of you do, getting your thoughts and opinions out in a normal conversational way. If you compare the word count though you would see that these bursts of verbiage still are a long way from equalizing others word counts. Normal posting would solve that but playing hard ball intellectual fascist censorship politics with opposing views seems the order of the day here.

  62. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 7:44 am | #62

    Lewis’ problem is he has a messiah complex but no followers which proves (in his mind) that he is being persecuted by nefarious forces who plot to keep his message from his would-be followers.

  63. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 7:45 am | #63

    OH NO My post is stuck in moderation! STOP PERSECUTING ME!

  64. January 22, 2013 at 8:44 am | #64

    Felix :
    I think not. Jewish righteousness maybe.
    Equal rights and the right to exist are not comparable, so sorry.

    I think so, because I don’t know where you come up with this nonsense. Perhaps for people like you I should have “accept the Palestinians with the same right as equal to the Jews.”

  65. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 8:47 am | #65

    “20 years of needless and severe damage to all streams coming out of homestead subdivisions.”

    Logging has been in decline for years now, while rural residences and pot growing have increased, so according to Steve’s reasoning our rivers should be in terrible shape — yet we have just had the best salmon runs since the ’70s. Sucks when the evidence just doesn’t fit the theory.

  66. Jen
    January 22, 2013 at 9:25 am | #66

    Wow. I made a comment because this kind of post seems to be the kind of thing that silence implies agreement and I couldn’t let it pass. But I had no idea I was dealing with someone completely off his rocker.
    I’ll respond to Mitch who commented on my comment. The Palestinians weren’t just welcoming to the incoming Jews escaping Europe. They helped each other shake off the British yoke. My understanding of history is that it has always been outside forces that drive the Palestinian hatred of the Jews. Of course, now, with so much bloodshed between the two groups, it’s easy to incite that hatred.
    To me, the saddest thing (despite one’s stance on religion) is that a holy place to three different religions is a battleground, bloodied and stained. It’s been that way for centuries. Christians owe a debt of gratitude for saving the holy sites in Jerusalem which had been abandoned by the Romans. The Muslims are descended both genetically and religiously from the Jewish people who (despite the supposed lack of archaeological evidence) also spawned Christianity in all its forms.
    All three religions tout forgiveness of ones enemies. Yet, here we are.
    Hatred and separation have been used since the beginning of time. It’s this kind of opinion piece that continues that. It’s the one reason I have never joined the “pro-Palestinian” movements. Where the Zionist movement is about forging a people, finding their place and living strong, the Palestinian movement seems to be more about righting wrongs done against them and fighting a war. If I saw a more positive move by those groups, I would be more supportive.
    Instead, there is the continued conspiracy theories, the finger-pointing, the unwillingness to coexist.
    Meanwhile, people die.
    Israel is the spiritual home to Jews, Christians and Muslims. All three groups have a claim to the region. With all that we’ve seen in the last fifteen years, is it any wonder all three can’t live together?

  67. Mitch
    January 22, 2013 at 9:45 am | #67

    Jen,

    Thanks for your words. I don’t know how the mideast knot can be untangled, but one approach to the problems between those who label themselves Jewish, Christian, or Muslim is to recognize how insignificant those categories are in comparison with the wisdom the founders of each religion sought to offer.

    The religious labels apply mostly to which mythology and/or power hierarchy someone was raised within. The religions’ founders, around which the various mythologies have been structured, all taught very similar things: do not do to others what you wouldn’t want someone to do to you; try to respond to hatred with kindness; don’t focus too much on material wealth. The real division through history has been between those who accept those principles and those who demonstrate by their actions that they think them foolish.

    My personal opinion is that most religious hierarchies today and through most of history are dominated by the latter. It is this false advertising that is problematic, because people love labels. When everyone recognizes the values of the founders they worship, the Middle East will look like heaven, or at least the Netherlands.

  68. Dan
    January 22, 2013 at 9:52 am | #68

    #65 and #59,
    “….worst eco-damage, homestead subdivision watersheds…”

    Titlow, for an example.
    I wonder how many of our citizens learned the nuances of a D-8,
    shoving driveways here there and everywhere.

    “But nothing can be done until the illegal lot issue and the Bareilles’ case are resolved, Girard said. “With the sheer magnitude of the problem, it deserves to go to the decision makers,” he said.

    Girard left us with this and wait until facts come to light on
    the condition of our coastal wetlands- Girard again.

    Good to hear the fish are doing better.

  69. Dan
    January 22, 2013 at 10:12 am | #69

    I meant to add, Girard, Jew or Christian?
    Does it matter?

  70. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 10:36 am | #70

    Time to de-link. Heraldo has left the building.

  71. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 2:46 pm | #71

    Anonymous :
    “20 years of needless and severe damage to all streams coming out of homestead subdivisions.”
    Logging has been in decline for years now, while rural residences and pot growing have increased, so according to Steve’s reasoning our rivers should be in terrible shape — yet we have just had the best salmon runs since the ’70s. Sucks when the evidence just doesn’t fit the theory.

    Thank global warming for increased water flows. Certainly not homesteaders who continue to degrade Humboldt County watersheds with over-building of dirt roads still bleeding silt and mud and still clogging up what’s left of salmonid spawning grounds, still extremely low dry season water in the Mattole, still robbing native species of dry season water sources being sucked up by pot growing and homestead use. I wish someone had started a species count in homestead subdivisions when they started happening in the 70′s. I highly suspect many species have bitten the dust in Humboldt rural watersheds due to homesteaders and their pets as anyone who’s read that report on just how cats alone are wiping out species everywhere they exist without natural predation.

    This thread was supposed to be about Israel but thanks to Mitch’s orchestration of ad hominen attacks by deliberate manipulation of my posts to make the most problems he can for my posting, and also due to the usual gang of Heraldo regulars never known for intelligent comments because so eager to slander the Mitch-Eric picked Prog political target-du-jour, this thread has become another bash Steve Lewis vent outlet for Proggies who can’t stand to have their Dark Side underbellies exposed to the light of day.

    When you all start talking about Israel and Zionism again, I will post to comments; but the character assassination comments? Been there, done that, and history knows that when EF! and EPIC and all the rest tried to do for years with Mitch and Eric and cronies real johnny-come-latelies, they just ended up exposed as the environmental frauds they always were, losing community respect all over the place, and EPIC, once ringmaster of ad hominen attacks on me in enviro circles now pushes for the very environmental protection measures I’d been pointing out for over 20 years. So the lesson, my friends, is that no amount of slander of me has any effect because I know what I’m talking about and history bears me out. You can’t substitute political agendas for real environmental protection work and that’s what’s been done here for years with the resulting 20 years lag in homestead subdivision protection costing probably thousands of unnecessary endangered species deaths due to homestead greed and lack of real environmental protection information.

  72. That Other Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 4:39 pm | #72

    You’re the one who brought up homestead “subdivisions” and their environmental impacts, Steve. You’re the one who couldn’t help but take the bait and launch into a rant about “proggies” and Darryl Cherney and Headwaters and on and on and on.

    And you’re the one who brought up “homesteaders who continue to degrade Humboldt County watersheds with over-building of dirt roads still bleeding silt and mud and still clogging up what’s left of salmonid spawning grounds.” But what you don’t mention is that most of those roads were existing ranch roads and abandoned logging roads, many of the latter being poorly (if at all) maintained, and featuring blowouts, erosion, the loggers’ old “Humboldt crossings” (roads which went directly through the creeks), poor drainage and so on, until the dreaded homesteaders moved in and started improving the roads with proper bridges, culverts, graveling, and maintenance. You also don’t mention that the homesteaders have decommissioned many of the old logging roads, planted many trees, etc.

    All of which may help to explain why, contrary to your doom-and-gloom predictions of a few years ago, the salmon — a key indicator species, and one for which we do have before-and-after numbers — are recovering in this era of reduced logging, and increased homesteaders.

    Which is not to suggest that increased numbers of rural residents can’t and don’t cause any problems – they can, and sometimes do. In particular the large-scale, greedy, sloppy, get-rich-quick style pot growers can cause very substantial problems, and make no mistake about it, there are some who fit that description. Some are not even really year-round Humboldt residents, they’re just going for one (more) good year and then heading to some sunny island for the winter. The problem is, when you try to lump all rural residents together and declare that they are all inherently destructive, you’re throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Ironically for you, Steve, both you and the Arcata-based “proggies” you so loathe are making this exact same mistake.

  73. labteh
    January 22, 2013 at 4:50 pm | #73

    Lewis is a full fledged anti-semite. Ignore his delusions about Jewish ancestors, a clumsy attempt to somehow justify his bigotry. I’ve met this scumbag. He’s a thoroughly vile and disgusting character. And of course, he’s on the dole. Of course he’s not unemployable, just lazy.

  74. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 7:44 pm | #74

    That Other Anon, go tell your tale to EPIC. I’d be curious as to what they will say to you. Something you really don’t understand and need to is the physics of road-building on unstable slopes. You don’t understand that each road cut into a hillside creates an imbalance of weight of the ground on the hillside side of the road and it naturally wants to tumble down. If one could see time-lapse photography of a homestead subdivision watershed through the years they would see the land rippling downward and doing it mostly at the edges of all the dirt roads cut into the hillsides. Homesteaders do nothing about their dirt roads that will stop this process. It can be stopped, is in fact almost always stopped in suburban developments where roads are paved and banked with rock or bricks, but homesteaders even though they could easily afford it if pooling pot monies are too selfish to take those steps. Just like they’re too selfish to support social services of the community they live in. They lie back, grow pot, and think to themselves that the environmental sun shines out their behinds because they buy their organic food at politically correct outlets.

    I have a friend who spends his life controlling erosion on his homestead land. He’s quite successful, one of a handful of really ecological homesteaders. But he lives alone, doesn’t go to town much at all, Doesn’t have any imported pets (the wild animals are tame around his place) and he gets hassled by his neighbors when he repairs their roads when they don’t.

    The homestead lifestyle as practiced in Humboldt County is still one of the most ecological damaging human lifestyles in the world. Only poverty will get homesteaders off the hills because as long as they can buy and drive big macho SUVs and go to Cancun and Bali they’ll be there with their dogs and cats and bye-bye indigenous wildlife.

  75. Sunny Side
    January 22, 2013 at 10:37 pm | #75

    Steve, you’re at your best drawing attention to watershed issues. You should lay off the Jew hating. It just comes off as hateful and small minded. Jews, Muslims, Buddists, growers, loggers, fisherman, etc. –whatever context people grow up in and adopt by default — all of us have the same aspiration and hope to have peaceful and prosperous existence for ourselves and our families. To the extent you feel excluded by other people who care about justice for humans, wildlife, and the Earth, it might be because you seem to be hell-bent on alienating everyone. You can do better Steve. Find your better self, and watch the world open itself to you.

  76. January 23, 2013 at 1:49 am | #76

    And here is where you are wrong: 1) There has always been a Jewish presence in Palestine. Look up Sephardic Jews sometime. You might learn something. 2) There is now, and has been since 1915, a separate Palestinian state composed (and still is) of 95% Palestinian Arabs. It is called Jordan. You see, The Brits were given control over the region, called Palestine, and subsequently carved out a portion of Palestine and gave it to Jordan. Hence Jordan, became, and still is, the Palestinian state. See http://redwoodcoastviews.blogspot.com/2012/11/faceing-facts-about-palestine.html

  77. That Other Anonymous
    January 23, 2013 at 6:49 am | #77

    “The homestead lifestyle as practiced in Humboldt County is still one of the most ecological damaging human lifestyles in the world.”

    Nonsense. Of course there are ecological impacts, as there are with all human lifestyles . And some homesteaders are doing a better job of minimizing their impacts than others. But to say the homestead lifestyle in Humboldt is “one of the most ecological damaging human lifestyles in the world” is just a ridiculous exaggeration that says more about your hateful grudges and extreme biases than it does about anything else.

    It’s great that your friend is doing a good job of stewardship on his land. I know many others who are doing so as well, and am aware of plenty of others who are not. (Oh, and by the way, when wild animals act “tame,” that is a sign that the nearby humans have altered their “wild” nature in a way that is very dangerous for them in the wild. The “tameness” results from lack of predation from predators, including humans, who were certainly hunters — and therefore predators — long before the Europeans arrived in this area. The lack of grizzlys, wolves and other predators is also a problem. That “tameness” is nothing to celebrate).

    As far as how “most” homesteaders interact with the environment, you’re overgeneralizing wildly from your obviously very limited experience, and allowing your feelings of personal rejection by the homesteader commununity to dramatically distort the picture. And paved, suburban roads may be better from a slope stability point of view, but many other aspects of the suburban lifestyle are very destructive.

  78. That man
    January 23, 2013 at 11:02 am | #78

    Im not an atheist by any means, I’m a polytheism animist never-the-less the following video gives a good detail on Yahweh and the separation of the Canaan and the yahist

    the point is their claim is based on a lie, the land clearly belongs to the Canaan which are the Palestinian not these Turks claiming Jewish decent.

    look up “Khazars”

    but non of this means nothing; the only thing that is important is what their doing now.

    and to the Zionist Christians these are the descendants of your Christ, Israel is killing. Bethlehem, Nazareth; has been in Palestine since the iron age.

    no child should ever live in a world so ravished, so degraded, so painful; and turn to a camera and say “this is how i live, I’m used to it.”

  79. Mitch
    January 23, 2013 at 10:25 pm | #79

    OK, this experiment is about ended. I have some concluding comments.

    First of all, Stephen’s web site is http://biomystic.org. It’s remarkable.

    Second, Herald readers can form their own conclusions about those who have posted here.

    Third, I know there are a lot of bigots out there of all kinds, and I don’t like bigotry.

    Fourth, some comments about mental illness:

    Are people responsible for their behavior? It’s not always an easy question for me to answer. I guess I generally do believe in free will, so I do generally think people are responsible for their own behavior.

    But some of us engage regularly in behavior that seems so bizarre to others and appears to be so counterproductive to their own goals that it strikes me as foolish to hold them “responsible” for behavior over which they obviously have no control. When someone hallucinates, they don’t know they’re hallucinating, they just see things that aren’t there (at least for the rest of us). When someone is convinced that a random passerby on the street is about to kill them, and jumps on them in self-defense, how can a civilized society send them to jail as if they were a criminal, and not someone whose brain was simply failing to function properly?

    We have a lot of people wandering the streets who are schizophrenic. They are annoying. It’s not their fault. Somehow, we have to come to grips with their problems. I don’t know the answer. I do know that blaming them for their behavior is not the answer. And I do know that making fun of them just reflects poorly on us. I don’t always live up to what I know, but I try to.

  80. Sunny Side
    January 23, 2013 at 10:56 pm | #80

    Mitch, you’re a hero. The world needs more thoughtful, kind, and open people like you, willing to question conventional thinking and advancing the kind of enlightenment rationality that guided the founders of this country. Thank you for putting your energy into that as you try to live a principled and purposeful life in an often inexplicable world. I’d like to give you a hug.

    Steve, the world needs more thoughtful, kind, and open people, willing to question conventional thinking. Thank you for putting your energy into attempting to to live a principled life according to your lights. I’d like to give you a hug too. You may see conspiracy and censorship when there is none, and that’s gotta be a rough way to get through a day. Life is hard, and there are many injustices, if we’re sensitive and aware enough to care, that occur on an overwhelming scale all around us, and to us, all the time. Somehow we have to get through our days regardless, and recognize that others are only trying to do the same. No matter where they live or what their religion or historical claims to land or whatever. Let it go bro. Chill. For real. Envision a positive future you’d like to see (make sure it doesn’t involve any “final solutions” FFS) and work toward that. Pointing fingers just makes your hand cramp up.

    Good luck to you. There are people who can help and I hope you seek them out. Most people mean you well. Don’t forget that.

  81. Steve Lewis
    January 24, 2013 at 7:36 am | #81

    Sunnyside, censorship for political reasons by activists coming into Humboldt County from NY or San Francisco to climb their personal political ladders to higher office, to more status and political clout in our county, to more pay, if not now, in the future they are banking on, and doing all of this at the very real economic expense of local Humboldt County workers and their families and at the expense of local poor, I’m sorry but I am never going to be mellow about that and you shouldn’t be either. You may make excuses for intellectual fascism that’s being carried on by Mitch and Eric blocking Humboldt County citizens from posting on their blogs for no other reason than for their political views, but I can’t and won’t.

    I appreciate you trying to play “Why can’t we all just get along?” Rodney King blues but look what happened to him and how he ended up. Because no one spoke up loud enough, long enough against political repression by fascists acting out fascist tactics that cannot be ignored and excused if we want real democracy protecting everyone’s rights in our communities. When major community intercommunications venues are being used as political weapons by cynical politically ambitious blog owners wishing to create a specific image in their political cliques where their upwardly mobile ambitions are aimed for personal advancement while still conducting vicious political attack campaigns, I think, I know, the community suffers. I was attacked politically, personally for 20 years, actually there’s some post still conducting that smear campaign right here, for speaking up publicly as I do now against environmentalist hypocrisy in their political attacks on one lumber company while ignoring the environmental eco-damage of the people funding and politically backing enviros’ attacks on the one company. 20 years of this same type of ad hominen personal attack, slander, character assassination, all of the things seen in comments here and on Eric’s blog, not so much there because my work is more known in SoHum, 20 years and real environmental science proved me right all along and the community suffered mightily for not listening to my warning voice. 20 years of enviros siccing almost all available Humboldt County environmental protection energy towards the wrong target. 20 years of severe stream degradation that has almost killed the Mattole River, certainly reduced it to shadow of its former life-giving properties, and the same for all creeks coming out of homestead subdivisions because nobody but me was pointing to the problem and how severe it was. Enviros attacked me every time I wrote a letter and you want me to mellow out and play nice with people conducting the same type of censorship of opposing viewpoints that end up hurting the community because the information was being deleted from the main menus of activist and not just deleted, but demonized, as here.

    Prophesy is given by God for a purpose of guiding communities so that they don’t make major mistakes in community policies that keep the community, all of it, sustainable into the future. Equality is given by God for the purpose of maintaining the whole potential of community in service to sustainability and prosperity. The more voices added to the community Bible of good governance the more holistic the community’s response to problems. Holistic response is the preferred long range strategy and that requires equal opportunity to input every voice somewhere where the community can at least listen and judge for themselves.

  82. tao@tao.com
    January 24, 2013 at 1:41 pm | #82

    20 years of increasing numbers of homesteaders and pot growers all along the Eel River…and yet the salmon runs have been the best since the early 1970′s. Go figure.

    Geem maybe those dreaded “enviros” did the right thing by going after the most important, most urgent target first — the “boom” part of the liquidation logging boom-and-bust cycle, (including lots of clear-cutting, logging on steep slopes, and heavy use of herbicides)?

    The “enviros” also managed to get more water released downstream from the Potter Valley project. And numerous “enviro” group have done huge amounts of steam restoration and other river-health-recovery work to improve conditions for the salmon, all of which now appear to be paying off, even despite the real issues posed by pot-growing-related dry-season water withdrawls. And now the “enviros” are increasingly working to address some of the issues related to homesteads, rural residency and pot growing, too — including the Mattole Restoration Council’s and Sanctuary Forest’s efforts to reduce erosion and road runoff and improve creek crossings and increase winter water storage in that watershed (just a few of the many important projects carried out by those and other groups). Seems to me those “enviros” did pretty well.

    Meanwhile Steve Lewis spent those decades sucking up to Charlie Hurwitz, whining about “proggies” and “enviros” suposedly destroying the timber industry (when in fact it was his pal Charlie Hurwitz who exploited the PL workers and bankrupted the company, and it was market conditions that have led to the downturn in the industry as a whole), nursing his personal and societal grudges, and keeping himself in a perpetual lather with anti-Semitic rants about supposed Jewish conspiracies both near and far.

  83. That Other Anonymous
    January 24, 2013 at 1:44 pm | #83

    Oh my God — my 1:41 comment is “awaiting moderation!”

    Censorship! Conspiracy! Manipulation! Proggies! Wah! Wah! Waaaaaaaaah!

  84. Wes T
    January 25, 2013 at 9:54 pm | #84

    See “Django Unchained” if you want to get an idea of how white people routinely talked about blacks back then. You wouldn’t permit naked racism directed at black people here, but when it comes to Jews you give Steven Lewis a platform.

  85. January 26, 2013 at 7:08 am | #85

    Wes,

    Without occasional opportunities to hear Steve, people might not understand why some dismiss him. WordPress generally prevents his material from appearing, and I’m no longer approving the material from Steve that WordPress flags for moderation or as spam. As he’s pointed out himself, in material I’ve left “suppressed,” he believes he’s discovered a much bigger venue with which to get the word out.

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