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What a Wonderful World

A friend emailed me this two minute BBC commercial.  It makes me happy.

  1. Hmm
    January 21, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    I like this one for the Wonders of Life documentary airing this spring, probably on Discovery Channel. Eric Idle (Monthy Python) revised his ‘Galaxy Song.’ See if you can catch the line that would never air on American television, but is totally kosher in the UK.

  2. Yep
    January 21, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    The amount of science programming on the BBC is simply amazing. They even have a live stargazing show once a year that is broadcast over three nights.

  3. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 2:33 am

    Ahhh, atheists worship of nature to replace worship of God. And like God worshipers atheists putting on a Happy Face on Nature, forgetting that right behind those beautiful images is a life-and-death struggle for survival, e.g. the little flipper sea turtlette heading off to be food for the first seagull that spots the little cutie. I’m not knocking Nature’s beauty but remembering that behind the beautiful forest goes a silent battle for sunlight. If we want the Garden of Eden it will have to be a reprogrammed Creation, not onr that’s running on on and off dualities meaning life and death, existence and non-existence for all physical forms. Can you screen out that reality behind the beauty all your life and be ok with it?

  4. Yep
    January 22, 2013 at 6:55 am

    Ahh, Steve doesn’t understand atheism. Enjoying nature and having a thirst to understanding how things really work — not how we guess they work, not how we wish they work, but how they really work — is not worship.

    Atheism itself is only one thing: a lack of belief in gods. Atheists don’t have to like science and can choose to embrace ignorance in all other things like a certain person on this blog. But hey, if someone was going to decry atheism, I’m soooo glad it was Steve. LOL!

  5. Josey
    January 22, 2013 at 7:44 am

    When Steve understand why he rejects the thousands of other gods worshiped in recorded human history (about 3,000), he’ll understand why atheists reject his god.

  6. mod_powers_suck
    January 22, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Dman you Mitch. Dman you! Mod Powers. Suck.

    This is. Censorshit.

    Dman you.

  7. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 9:02 am

    As an agnostic (I don’t know or believe anyone knows whether there is a god or that any human being could possibly know the will of god) I find the beauty and diversity of life through evolution over billions of years much more wondrous than the belief that a supreme being just willed it all into existence. Nature and evolution are obvious and need no god to explain them.

  8. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 9:55 am

    “Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing,” he writes. “Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.

    “It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/02/stephen-hawking-big-bang-creator

  9. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 10:03 am

    #7: “As an agnostic (I don’t know or believe anyone knows whether there is a god or that any human being could possibly know the will of god)”

    Are you also agnostic about the Flying Spaghetti Monster? You can’t know or believe anyone knows whether there is a flying spaghetti monster (hallowed be her noodles) or whether she (the all-worshipped) exists.

  10. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Exactly, #9. Of course, as an agnostic I don’t believe anyone can possibly know if there is really a flying spaghetti goddess so anyone who claims to know there is one is a con man.

  11. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 10:48 am

    ….or crazy.

  12. January 22, 2013 at 10:56 am

    in Sunday school we sang:::This iss my fathers world–and to my listeneing ears–All nature sings as round me rings–the music of the spheres

  13. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Yep :
    Ahh, Steve doesn’t understand atheism. Enjoying nature and having a thirst to understanding how things really work — not how we guess they work, not how we wish they work, but how they really work — is not worship.
    Atheism itself is only one thing: a lack of belief in gods. Atheists don’t have to like science and can choose to embrace ignorance in all other things like a certain person on this blog. But hey, if someone was going to decry atheism, I’m soooo glad it was Steve. LOL!

    You won’t be when I’m finished demolishing your atheist delusions.

    Atheism is a fundamentalist religious mindset that, just like it’s theist fundamentalist counterparts, ignores any scientific evidence countering the atheist fundamentalist belief system. As those who have been following human brain research know, the human brain has evolved to be able to register spiritual stimulation. The brain’s ability to do this is the result, like every other human brain capability, is the result of evolutionary forces which dictate that in the long run only those abilities that contribute to a species survival are going to be passed along to the next generations. Now atheists say there is no God, no spiritual reality, that human beings are making it all up. They say “where’s the physical proof? Show us God’s picture and God’s handwriting.” Well, back to the logic of evolution:

    This is the killer of atheist fundamentalism: If there is no spiritual reality what is the human brain responding to in its physical capacity to register spiritual phenomena? Why has “Nature” hardwired our brains to perceive God and spiritual reality if there is, as atheists claim, nothing there? And as a religious visionary I can most definitely claim to have experienced spiritual phenomena. Like Muhammad I sweated profusely whenever major spiritual visions came into my mind unbidden from any outside or interior stimulation. Like the Shakers and Quakers I have shook when waves of spiritual energy coursed through me as visions and revelations came to me.

    So explaining why the human brain is hardwired to process spiritual events is the first hurdle atheists have to leap over and have never done so yet.

    The second one is explaining why human beings have spent so much time and energy in pursuits of non-existent forces, creating whole societies and even civilizations around pursuit of non-existent things. And this maximized social energy in pursuit of non-existent things has been going on for over 40,000 years. Atheism has to explain why so much human life and human history has been dedicated to spiritual phenomena if it doesn’t exist?

    Atheists don’t really have any answers for these two questions and if brain science studies counter their fundamentalist beliefs they either ignore them or trot out feeble explanations that don’t explain anything, such as “oh, religious rituals are used as social binding and that’s why they are continued. But any human activity like story-telling or music would do the same thing without need of invisible forces. No animal could survive if it was responding to non-existent things so what’s going on in the human brain? Atheists don’t want to go there and don’t–they ignore these facts that they can’t explain–just like fundamentalist Christians or Muslims do too which is why atheism is a fundamentalist mindset.

    Only agnosticism is truly objective and follows the Scientific Method. Atheism has already made up its mind on incomplete data and marches off to tell the world what it should believe about reality. Atheism never factors in the logic of history that shows human knowledge does not stay stuck at the atheist’s time period but continues to advance. So with the logic of history also against the atheist fundamentalist mindset because already we’ve seen great advancement in brain science with only the last 20 years, atheism is toast as a sustainable philosophy.

  14. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    I am an agnostic, but I reject the SL argument against atheism. From an evolutionary point of view religion is a logical (natural?) outgrowth of brain development. Complex thought evolved in response to natural stimuli and need. However, the complex thought that that was an advantage and led to advancement of a species provided the means to think, and consider one’s existence, purpose, and mortality. The same brain that can predict and anticipate sources of food and the future responses of enemies, is also able to anticipate it’s own death and ponder the reasons for life. The concept of purpose and mortality are so baffling and terrifying that a natural response is to adopt an explanation that can be understood and counters the potentially destructive notion that life is without purpose. Nature” didn’t hardwired our brains to perceive God and spiritual reality. Nature (natural selection) hardwired our brains for complex thought and the question of purpose and existence are a consequence of that complex brain. Once one can think into the future and understand that organisms die, the questions of purpose and existence follow.
    Why has so much energy been spent pursuing non-existent things? Because it’s a defense mechanism. People have built towers to the sky in the hope of touching God. It’s not a logical argument to say that so much effort would not have been expended if God didn’t exist; therefore god exists. They build those towers because they need god to exist as a way to cope with the terrifying prospect (brought on by complex thought) that no god exists.

    I would agree that the brain has evolved to register “spiritual stimuli”, but it seems more logical that this is a mechanism of species survival than evidence of the divine.
    From a Scientific Method point of view I’d be more inclined to interpret the lack of data regarding God (or spirituality) as pointing toward a lack of God rather than interpreting it as evidence of complex deities. That’s an Occam’s razor approach, but as an agnostic that makes more sense than bending over backwards to propose that lack of data somehow rules out atheism.

  15. Steve Lewis
    January 22, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Again you are ignoring the fact that there is zero reason for any complex animal’s brain to ever invent invisible, non-existent forces, in order to ponder existence or create an invisible Daddy to protect them. No animal would ever survive to reproduce if that animal was spending as much time and energy dealing with non-existent invisible forces as human beings have historically spent and still spend. For at least 40,000 years. I’ve heard the Big Daddy/It’s a Scary World atheist attempt to explain God away and it always falls flat on its back because religious visionaries were never recorded as being people afraid of the dark or any of the idiotic tell Boogieman stories to avoid dangerous animals arguments for religion. Religious visionaries experience a different force than anything that can be explained physically because no physical force leaves a trail of similarity of human mental responses as do spiritual visitations. No physical force will produce a religious vision that is thematically in a series of such visions going back 4000 years.

    So your “complex brain” is no explanation for God-consciousness. There’s no reason for a complex animal brain to evolve to the point it spends much of its time dealing with invisible forces that don’t exist according to atheism and your atheist answer as an “agnostic”.

  16. Anonymous
    January 22, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    OK Steven. I assumed you were interested in logical discourse. You are obviously more concerned with telling others that you are right and they are wrong, even in matters as open- ended as the complexity of the human brain and the existence of god.
    By the way, stating something emphatically doesn’t make it true – it only conveys the depth of your dogma.

  17. Sunny Side
    January 22, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Steve, I agree there is a force. I’ve felt it. It’s beyond explanation. So I feel you there.

    Arguing over whether it is God or Allah or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or a natural evolutionary response to stimuli as a result of complex thinking is pointless. Science cannot explain it yet.

    Atheist, agnostic, or whatever, there is a lot of mystery about the meaning or lack thereof of our existence and any attempt to describe it or worship it or whatever is going to fall woefully short as viewed by others. We each have our own conception of it, or not, and it’s not something you can win an argument about based on reason OR faith. No sense trying, really. Only leads to unnecessary conflict when we have so much more in common. It’s all just counter-productive noise. If you’ve felt it you’ve felt it, and if you haven’t you haven’t. No basis to judge either way. Your experience will be different from mine, and that’s cool.

  18. Steve Lewis
    January 23, 2013 at 7:55 am

    So you’re out of logical argument now and back to slander, Anon 16? When you can answer my analysis of atheism’s familial relationship with fundamentalist religionists, both in denial about science findings that counter their cherished security blanket ideas, and both without a clue of real spiritual contact: one because locked into paper and ink book idolatry and the other locked into mental narcissism that believes a lack of spiritual functionality in one’s brain is a good thing.

    SunnySide: The reason God has produced a line of Near Eastern religions focusing on one particular route to God-consciousness is because of the otherwise Tower of Babel scenario that always accompanies ecumenical polytheism, i.e., spiritual confusion that allows the same old earthly male territorial battling behavior to continue on creating social warfare. Without a coordinated effort to counter the inherent tendency of males to engage in territorial social warfare you get this Heraldo crap going on continually, only worldwide. Constant conflict of egos battling for territorial supremacy. This post of mine is a prime example. My only excuse for engaging in these conflict arenas is that it’s a dirty job but somebody’s got to do it at some point. Jesus stepped into Pilate’s and the Jewish Sanhedrin’s arena and appeared to lose his battle quite decisively but did he? Not when you factor in the fact that within 300 years of his death his theology had captured the whole Roman Empire and destroyed Judaism’s spiritual authority pretty much for all time.

    Why isn’t ecumenical “Why can’t we all just get along?” open spirituality a good thing? Because as I said when there’s open season in religion you get no concentrated effort to counter male territorial warfare and social warfare continues on unabated. There’s really only two major religions of the world that focus on combating male territorial warfare; Buddhism and Christianity. I can’t take the Buddhist route because it is based on brain manipulation to avoid psychic pain by using meditation techniques, many, many hours of it, to shut down the brain’s sense of self center that releases the oceanic, egoless and bliss consciousness that is the preferred glorified single brain state called Buddha Mind. Not for me because Buddha Mind with it’s deadened brain functionality also kills the God spiritual reception which may actually be part of the brain’s sense of self center, the ego and God consciousness being co-existent in human brains in my scientific and religious beliefs wherein God and humanity share in common origin and destiny. If God has already tapped you for service there’s no way you can ever go backward in consciousness to an atheist point of view.

    Why “One Way”? Because secular government knowledge is slow to discover what religion has known for thousands of years. You can’t govern men peacefully without first countering their inherent tendency to battle with each other and to do that you need to establish an icon of Self-Sacrifice as a Humanitarian Model, a model of a man who chooses to renounce power over men for love of men, all men, not just the ones who can improve your own welfare or the welfare of your closed circle of friends. It happens that God has instilled with the Near Eastern desert religions a slowly but surely growing spiritual consciousness of the Humanitarian Model. My religious beliefs trace historically how God first established the Humanitarian Model in the heavens as part of the Zodiac visible to all peoples and thereby synchronizing their spiritual consciousnesses, the seven planetary objects visible to most every culture who used them in religious ceremonies, our Week showing our honoring of these seven planetary “rulers”. The Zodiac was the first of the “One Way” synchronizations of human spirituality.

    The next step God took was to instill the idea that there was only one Sign in the Zodiac out of all 12 (12 Tribes of Israel, 12 Disciples) that would contain the Man Sign, the Man Face of God, of a Good God, a Humanitarian God. That Man face was made in human cultural lore unisex in order to represent all humanity, women too. That’s why Ganymede was said to be the most beautiful man in the world, not handsome but beautiful the way a beautiful woman is beautiful. Aquarius holds the Man Face of God, the unisex Man who pours out Living Waters to benefit humankind, the Man who Baptizes with Living Waters to spiritually consecrate the Humanitarian Model to the worthy recipient, be he king, priest or ordinary man who’s put on the Aquarian Mantle by baptism ritual, “born again”, i.e. reborn in spirit to have the Humanitarian consciousness being passed along through the ages by a string of prophets, each one evolving the Humanitarian Model further on until we get to the prophesy where God consciousness meets Man consciousness–i.e. the Story of Jesus Christ, who established the world’s most psychologically powerful icon of self-sacrifice in service for humanity.

    I’m an old hippie and got the Aquarian Call back when I was born a double Aquarius and have been living the Christ Aquarian archetype ever since, becoming conscious of it being in a long historic spiritual lineage after I went through my own Road to Damascus religious conversion experience which converted me from atheism to lasting belief in this wonderous spiritual Pathway God has placed in our brains from the beginning to getting us out of animal territorial violent competition behavior patterns that when carried into human civilization just end up creating war after war and needless social misery. Yes, I was humanitarian conscious before I was God-conscious but I never knew the purpose of life before spiritual awareness brought it to me. People will need spiritual Models of Humanitarianism and God has provided the Messiah/Christ one for all humanity because it represents all humanity in the Son of Man tradition, “Son of Man” being the Jewish way to represent humanity but in a special spiritual way that includes entry keys into the World to Come. It’s a very rich spiritual world and when you’re in synch with it wonderous things happen, e.g. swords baptized Aquarius New Age fashion in our local waters then becoming honored as the Holy Land’s newest religious icon wowing hundreds of Nazarean Christians and even Muslims. Like a Humboldt hippie’s spiritual vision of a Native American Savior Woman’s return becoming incarnated now in a N.Cheyenne/Lakota new sacred “bundle”, the Josephine Bundle, kept by a Northern Cheyenne in Lame Deer, Montana for the return of White Buffalo Calf Woman returning as Christ Josephine, the first time in history Old World and New World Savior prophesies have united into one common Vision. You all may wonder how I can go on day after day, year after year carrying the torch of humanitarian social change for the benefit of all citizens in all communities, not just elites. Well, it’s because my life is very rich even though I’m poor, it’s filled with friends and here and there amazing adventures and thus I get my rewards from others far exceeding the slams and darts and daggers I receive when working the fields of sinn…those without God-consciousness who are still stuck in various forms of vicious animal territorial combat behavior. My own Dark Side included..

  19. Sigh
    January 23, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Steve, if asked what an atheist would need to believe in gods, the most common response would be: evidence. I’d love to believe in an afterlife and all the soft fluffy parts of world religions. Who wouldn’t want to live forever? But wanting something to be true doesn’t make it true. If you have good evidence gods exist, by all means present it. You will rock the world with your revelation. But, I know you don’t have the slightest inkling of what I mean by “good evidence,” given that you’ve willfully embraced an idea without such evidence.

  20. Mitch
    January 23, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Yessirree, stunning video. We’re so fortunate to live on a planet that supports this near-unbelievable variety.

    “Hmm,” I enjoyed your video too, thanks. Always loved Monty Python.

    And yep, “Yep.” The BBC is funded by a fee on every TV in the UK, so it has money to do programming of astounding quality and expense.

    Looks a bit wet today. Water well-distributed, one source of our area’s biological richness. Yippee!

    Sunny Side, as I’m sure you know, philosophers have struggled with how consciousness can arise in a material world since there have been philosophers. I’ve been plugging this incredible book, Incomplete Nature, by Terrence Deacon. It’s hard — really hard — and I’m only 1/3 of the way through, but I think it may actually shed some new light on the problem. I know I’ve experienced these feelings of overwhelming joy or overwhelming sadness and think to myself later, there’s three billion people experiencing those feelings — that’s got to be more powerful than any material thing mankind produces. But then I realize that dualism is simply non-sensical. Incomplete Nature is like a breath of fresh air if you’ve had that struggle.

  21. Anonymous
    January 23, 2013 at 8:12 am

    “The God gene hypothesis states that some human beings bear a gene which gives them a prediposition to episodes interpreted by some as religious revelation. The idea has been postulate and promoted by geneticist Dr. Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the U.S. National Cancer Institute. Hamer has written a book on the subject titled, The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes.
    According to this hypothesis, the God gene (VMAT2), is not an encoding for the belief in God itself but a physiological arrangement that produces the sensations associated, by some, with the presence of God or other mystic experiences, or more specifically spirituality as a state of mind.”

    http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/God_gene

  22. Steve Lewis
    January 23, 2013 at 8:13 am

    I don’t know how to create links here so for those of you who want to see what I’m talking about with the Josephine Bundle, you can access it here at: http://biomystic.org/josephine.htm For my Celestial Torah Christianity material, go to: http://biomystic.org/celestialtorah.htm. For the continuing Story of Paxcalibur, go to: http://biomystic.org/paxstory.htm

  23. Steve Lewis
    January 23, 2013 at 8:20 am

    Mitch, you’re censoring my posts again today. Why don’t you get religion and pay attention to the biological reasons behind why our animal brains need to see alpha authority figures, be they bulls in a field or men in the arena, sacrifice the old animal paradigm, the one you engage even with your degree in biological science, still you are sucked into this constant need to combat others in authority who have territory you wish to seize (coming here from NY or whatever East Coast community you abandoned for greener fields) and control. You continue to be a prime example of how the animal battling behavior reduces your humanitarian consciousness as you continue to stoop to childish schoolyard name-calling slander as your last comment shows. Grow up.

    I don’t know how to create links here so for those of you who want to see what I’m talking about with the Josephine Bundle, you can access it here at: http://biomystic.org/josephine.htm For my Celestial Torah Christianity material, go to: http://biomystic.org/celestialtorah.htm. For the continuing Story of Paxcalibur, go to: http://biomystic.org/paxstory.htm

  24. Steve Lewis
    January 23, 2013 at 8:26 am

    Posts deleted by Mitch again.

    Childish petty game-playing and schoolyard name-calling by someone claiming to have advanced degrees? Mitch, read the comment you just censored from me about how if males do not have models of alpha male self-sacrifice for the good of the community, they continue on making war with each other, like you do, stooping to slander and censorship as your counter for my reasoned argument. As I said in the post you just censored, grow up.

    I don’t know how to create links here so for those of you who want to see what I’m talking about with the Josephine Bundle, you can access it here at: http://biomystic.org/josephine.htm For my Celestial Torah Christianity material, go to: http://biomystic.org/celestialtorah.htm. For the continuing Story of Paxcalibur, go to: http://biomystic.org/paxstory.htm

  25. Steve Lewis
    January 23, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Posts again being deleted by Mitch as he let’s his slander and other’s remain so I can’t defend against smears..

    Such Childish petty game-playing and schoolyard name-calling by someone claiming to have advanced degrees? Mitch, read the comment you just censored from me about how if males do not have models of alpha male self-sacrifice for the good of the community, they continue on making war with each other, like you do, stooping to slander and censorship as your counter for my reasoned argument. As I said in the post you just censored, grow up.

    I don’t know how to create links here so for those of you who want to see what I’m talking about with the Josephine Bundle, you can access it here at: http://biomystic.org/josephine.htm For my Celestial Torah Christianity material, go to: http://biomystic.org/celestialtorah.htm. For the continuing Story of Paxcalibur, go to: http://biomystic.org/paxstory.htm

  26. January 23, 2013 at 8:47 am

    The God gene hypothesis is interesting, but the problem is not that humans have mystical or reveletory episodes. If we all just went around having an episode here and there, what problem?

    No the problem is organized religion, which to me has always been either servant of, or sometimes identical with the interests of the king, the emperor or the state, since the dawn of civilization. People, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and on and on all kill each other over differering religious beliefs. I think this is crazy.

    People who run organized religions understand how to manipulate whatever natural propensity there is in humans towards religious experience and pervert it into support for nationalism, militarism, imperialism, racism and xenophobia.

    In this sense organized religion may be seen to be fascist in nature. It has always been so, and so it always will be.

    There is also a natural propensity for humans to gather together in community from time to time and organized religion also exploits this propensity by providing a fake controlled (state sanctioned) gathering. It is possible for humans to gather together and celebrate their commonality and sometimes even have mystical experiences together without the yoke of organized religion (the state.) It has happened before and it will happen again.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  27. Anonymous
    January 23, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Agree, Bill.

  28. That Other Anonymous
    January 23, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Steve,

    It appears that your comments go to “moderation” before posting. I believe this was set up by Heraldo, and it may be that Mitch can’t change that setting. But Mitch seems to be doing a very diligent job of pulling all of your comments out of moderation and posting them as soon as he is able to. Keep in mind he can’t necessarily sit around all day and check the moderation queue every two minutes, so it may take a couple of hours for your comments to appear. But clearly he’s not “censoring” you — quite the contrary, he’s clearly doing his best to make sure all your comments do get through.

    As far as the fact that your comments have to go through the moderation queue and be approved before they appear, while some other folks’ comments don’t, you have a fair complaint there — but I believe your complaint is more properly addressed Heraldo, assuming he’s the one who put you “on moderation” in the first place.

    To me, the bottom line is that you seem to be able to make plenty of comments and are getting your views out there, so my advice is, instead of whining so much about “censorshp” — which looks pretty silly given that the supposedly “censored” posts are visible for all to see (albeit sometimes after a brief delay) — instead take full advantage of the opportunity to get your views out there, and certainly share a link to your own blog for any who might be interested in hearing more of what you have to say in the future, etc.

    All the whining about “censorship,” when it seems pretty clear to the rest of us that what Mitch is trying to do is just the opposite, just makes you seem more paranoid and self-centered. That’s unfortunate because, in my opinion you do, at times, have some interesting things to say on at least some issues, and you certainly have a different perspective — one that even though I may usually disagree with it, I certainly don’t mind hearing (with the exception, of course, of your anti-Jewish obsession, which is neither original, nor enlightening, nor, in my opinion, particularly interesting).

  29. January 23, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Well, and there’s also the fact that WordPress moderation is automatically triggered by various content in messages that are in common with other messages that have ever been manually moderated on any WordPress blog.

    If that’s unclear, WordPress moderation is in part an automated self-learning system. I know, just what those of personal worry (don’t) want to hear, but in this case need to deal with.

    That Mitch is pulling Steve’s posts out of moderation should reduce this effect, as the arrangement also ‘learns’ this way. I think there’s a way of indicating you intend to do this, to allow the learning, but also think Mitch has indicated he doesn’t have access to it.

    There you have it, I think.

  30. January 23, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    Are you guys done? Bill’s , I agree, except that I find mystical experiences about every time we gather together – Way more intellect than any religious/military/funded grouping of the blind leading the blind.

    I was hoping to see Soetoro escorted from the Capital in handcuffs Monday – maybe soon.
    America is in a desperate condition. The facts are presented, but the obvious remains unstated. What is it that prevents us from discussing the obvious? The signs are out there, but not many can believe the evil that lies around us. If we persist going on this road of doing nothing about these criminals and thieves, one by one if need be, then the BORG will actuate their extermination of every opponent who does not submit to this World Syndicate
    now deploying all over the planet.
    Americans are chained by illusion. When you give people rules to live by, tell them what is Right and what is Wrong and tell them only a few men in a position of power have the ability to rule over them, then you take consciousness away from the people – their right to decide for themselves what their journey is – what the reason for BEing is.
    Remember Katrina -the military first disarmed the people, and cut communication lines, then left the people to fend for themselves. If you have the time, read ‘Patton Papers’ 1940-1945 -it’s like a diary. He was given orders to remove the WWI Veterans from the Capital. In one instance he threatened the very soldier who saved his life in Europe. This was a disgusting, disgraceful moment in U.S. history (Youtube Gary Sinise).Patton, MacArther, Audie Murphey (most decorated soldier) each had fatal ‘accidental’ car crashes.

    2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow said today that he was informed by a top military veteran that Odummer’s ‘litmus’ test for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. Citizens. Those who will not are being removed. The goal in his divulging this info. is to ‘sound the alarm.’ Gen. James Mattis, head of the U.S. Central Command has been told to vacate his office. Last July it was made clear in a leaked U.S. Army Military Police Training Manual for ‘Civil Disobedience Operations.’ -this is an on-line pdf of 2006. Similar plans were also outlined in an updated manual released in 2010 entitled FM 3-39.40 ‘Internment and Resettlement Operations.’ On page 20 are rules regarding “deadly force” in confronting ‘dissidents’ on American soil are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a “Warning shot will not be fired.”
    The U.S. Military did fire on American people – remember Kent State? Before anything will happen Soetoro will send the National Guard to some far away country, fighting some peasants and have no way to return to this country before its too late. Contracts with foreign military will be just like King George did with the Hessians in colonial days.

    You will soon find that what you have always believed to be true is, in fact, that which is truly ludicrous.

  31. Steve Lewis
    January 24, 2013 at 7:02 am

    I am a Celestial Torah Christian now. Celestial Torah Christianity is at least 4000 years old which makes it the oldest of all theologies. And because no organized religion can claim it nor any ethnic group because no one can manipulate the stars above while men could and did manipulate their Word(s) of God which they could control. Celestial Torah Christianity therefore follows the Gnostic Solitary Path wherein each person has their own relationship with God and it’s no one else’ business but theirs. Religious fellowship happens in common music and storytelling but the serious prayer tends to be private following Jesus’ advice not to pray in public as it tends to create religious hypocrites acting for show, i.e, similar to politicians and political activists running blogs that speak freedom of speech publicly but engage in fascist political censorship in private.

    To Mitch and various cronies and identity fraud names who are continuing to make excuses for political censorship of opposing viewpoints on this blog and Eric’s, get a clue. Censorship is censorship and that’s what has been going on with Mitch and Eric’s blogs aimed at stopping me specifically from posting. These censorship protocols were not put in place by accident and don’t stay in place except by deliberate actions of the blog owners.
    Intellectual cowardice is what censorship is all about. People who’s ideology can’t stand moral scrutiny will use most any tactic to block exposure to their flawed thinking.

  32. Anonymous
    January 24, 2013 at 7:08 am

    SL pretends to not know that neither Eric nor Mitch are the owners of this blog and lack the ability to change the filters in order to maintain his false outrage over nonexistent censorship, proven by his repeated crazy rants.

  33. Mitch
    January 24, 2013 at 7:15 am

    After about noon today, I’ll stop pulling SL’s comments from the spam folder and will cease approving any that land in the moderation queue.

  34. Anonymous
    January 24, 2013 at 8:52 am

    The sooner the better.

  35. Anonymous
    January 24, 2013 at 9:07 am

    What about creating a separate thread (like the Gas Scam one) that only allows posts by SL, Forest Queen, and the Henchman of Justice? They could post long rambling diatribes and anyone with some time to burn could read them (or not). Oh, and you could also allow Just Watchin’ to take pot shots since he appears to have a lot of free time too.

  36. Mitch
    January 24, 2013 at 9:17 am

    The “Gas Scam” thread was the last thing Heraldo did at the Herald before going “email-silent.” I hope the rumors of his/her being sick are not accurate, but…

    To make any changes outside of the existing structure is impossible at this point. That’s why no one has created a new Quick Notes thread despite its current size.

    One alternative would be to create a slightly renamed blog, but that would probably lose much of the existing audience, as it would require a click-through, and I doubt most people would bother. Unlike those who are convinced of the great impact and audience of the Herald, I’m rather agnostic. I just like to talk, but have to work largely on my own these days.

  37. Dan
    January 24, 2013 at 10:09 am

    “I was hoping to see Soetoro escorted from the Capital in handcuffs Monday –
    maybe soon.” FQ #29

    If you are referring to our President, Barack Obama, it would be appropriate
    to use his name- not the name of his step-father.
    Maybe the editor could flag posts that take leaps from reality,
    but with FQ the Birthers and the rest, the poor editor wouldn’t
    have a moment to spare.

  38. January 24, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    ‘Our’ President??? I think I’m gonna hurl.

    A wagon train can only move as fast as the slowest wagon.

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