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Fluoridation Bad for Gerbils

So sweet, til fluoride!

So sweet, til fluoride!

Herald reader “Joseph Heller,” (*) probably not that one, writes:

Hydrofluorosilicic acid—– corrodes and destroys masonry and accelerates the sexual maturation of gerbils!
Bad for gerbils, bad for humans.

Check it out: http://www.fluoridealert.org/studies/luke-1997/

Please pay no attention to the American Medical Association, American Dental Association, and similar conspirators.  They’re mostly in it for the money from Chinese aluminum exporters.  Whatever you do, DON’T TRUST YOUR DOCTOR OR DENTIST!!!!

  1. Irie
    January 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    Sad, this is what you guys do when someone brings something real to the table. Ah well, adios.

  2. Eric Kirk
    January 25, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    That’s the way your hardcore commie works!

  3. January 25, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    You should drink fluoride and high fructose corn syrup. If you vote republican, you should drink a lot of it!

  4. January 25, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Seriously have any of you ever read the warning label on a tube of toothpaste? It says “if swallowed get medical help or contact a poison control center right away”. It is poison and you guys think it is good to mix with your baby formula and make tea with. Seriously, think about that. Why shower in poison. Why not just leave it in the toothpaste where it belongs?

    What am I missing here? Can you people not read?

  5. January 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    Just a reminder of my great letter about fluoridation to the editor of the Press- Democrat a while back that ended up as “Letter of the Day”:

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20120316/OPINION/120319697

  6. Orin Scrivello - D.D.S.
    January 25, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    “I am your dentist, and I enjoy the career that I picked!
    I am your dentist, and I get off on the pain I inFLICT!”

    That’s why.

  7. Anonymous
    January 25, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    So why do dentists like fluoride so much when it ruins their cavity filling business? Because so many little, disadvantaged kids don’t have to go through so much pain. There really are nice professionals around who care about people. Ann Lindsay, our leftie public health physician likes it too, calls it one of the health miracles of this century. I don’t want to drink what I don’t need, but you have to look at this as something that has helped people more than hurt them.

  8. High Finance
    January 25, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Tom Sebourn :
    Seriously have any of you ever read the warning label on a tube of toothpaste? It says “if swallowed get medical help or contact a poison control center right away”. It is poison and you guys think it is good to mix with your baby formula and make tea with. Seriously, think about that. Why shower in poison. Why not just leave it in the toothpaste where it belongs?
    What am I missing here? Can you people not read?

    Oh I agree. There is a gigantic world wide conspiracy to poison us and the Times Standard, Humboldt County Coroner’s office and St Joesph’s Hospital is in it up to their necks. They are covering up all the local deaths due to the scourge of flouride poisoning.

  9. Anonymous
    January 25, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Yeah, really Tom. Do you seriously think they scrape the smokestacks to get the poison so they can make us brush with it? Fluoride is something you find in springs in nature. It just so happens that some springs have more fluoride than others. You don’t want too much of anything. You want a moderate amount to keep the balance of all nutrients and natural substances. Too much and the balance is upset.

  10. January 25, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    #8 is correct. Clearly.

  11. That Other Anonymous
    January 26, 2013 at 6:44 am

    Tom Sebourn said: “What am I missing here? Can you people not read?”

    What you’re missing is the basic concept that whether a given substance is “poisonous” or not very often depends on the dosage.

  12. Mitch
    January 26, 2013 at 7:14 am

    IIRC, oxygen is one of the most corrosive elements there is.

  13. Dr. Hip
    January 26, 2013 at 8:57 am

    I wonder whether people like Tom abstain from toxins like cigarettes, coffee, alcohol, recreational drugs, motorized vehicles and sunshine. . .or is it a case of “That’s different.”

  14. January 26, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Dr. Hip :
    I wonder whether people like Tom abstain from toxins like cigarettes, coffee, alcohol, recreational drugs, motorized vehicles and sunshine. . .or is it a case of “That’s different.”

    Of course it’s different. Partaking of those is generally voluntary.

  15. Mitch
    January 26, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Fred,

    The part you are missing is that fluoridation is a PUBLIC HEALTH measure. It is not being done, necessarily, because it benefits you or me. It is being done because it benefits children who might not otherwise get the benefit of a chemical known to result in healthier teeth.

    Get it? Not about you. Back up to comment #7, blissful proof that there are Anonymi out there who get it.

  16. January 26, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Mass medication is wrong. People should always be allowed choice, especially with something so basic as their drinking water.

    There are any number of ways you could provide fluoride, voluntarily, to those who feel a need for it, although I realize individual choice seems a foreign concept to you.

  17. January 26, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Give ‘em a break. Gerbils need all the sexual maturity they can muster.

  18. Dan
    January 26, 2013 at 10:49 am

    I am with Fred on this one,
    “Mass medication is wrong.”
    If I am
    watering my homegrown tomatoes why
    would I want to dose them or my soil?
    These too are, long-term concerns for public health.
    If we gave a damn about kids, they would be in
    a Headstart Program by three years-old. Their parents
    would earn a living-wage so that they could afford
    for the needs of the kid.
    $12.00 an hour is not near enough, but certainly a move
    in the right direction.
    Hats off to Bill and the rest.

  19. Anonymous
    January 26, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Something tells me that this gerbil had a far more agonizing death….http://www.jimgoad.net/index.shtml?rectalforeignbodies

  20. Strawthatbrokethecamelsback
    January 26, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    A safe dose of 1 beneficial/benign substance, maybe no big deal. But how many other doses of other substances which individually are beneficial/benign do we take every day? From the radiation of our phones to the additives to our food, all individually easy to swallow. I just wonder about the cumulative effects.

  21. Eric Kirk
    January 26, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    I know the page is put up by the same evil federal government responsible for destruction of Building Seven and the chem trail conspiracy to control the weather and weaken our will power, but I’m posting a link to the CDC page on the benefits anyway.

    http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/benefits.htm#2

    So I guess the real question is whether the fluoride will transform us into shambling zombies, or the real fast ones like in 28 Days.

  22. “Joseph Heller,” (*) probably not that one
    January 26, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    “Dr. William Hirzy & EPA Union on Fluoridation

    On June 29th, 2000, Dr. William Hirzy was invited to give testimony to the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, Subcommittee on Fisheries, Wildlife, and Water on behalf of the National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU) Chapter 280 – U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, National Headquarters.

    At the time, Dr. Hirzy was serving his sixth term as the Senior Vice-President of the Union. His presentation that day was, “Why EPA’s Union of Professionals Opposes Fluoridation.” This is a video that documents the presentation along with interviews with Dr. Hirzy where he describes the reasoning behind the professional and official stance of his Union members in direct opposition to the EPA’s administrative support of fluoridation.”

    video here

  23. January 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    “Joseph Heller,” (*) probably not that one :
    “Why EPA’s Union of Professionals Opposes Fluoridation.”
    video here

    Again; my main concern is individual choice and the fact that so many feel so comfortable in forcing this on others. I personally am not that concerned about fluoride. I’ve been drinking it for how many years?

    Whether it’s something that’s beneficial or harmful, and whether one wants to supplement themselves with it, should be up to the individual.

  24. January 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Strawthatbrokethecamelsback :
    A safe dose of 1 beneficial/benign substance, maybe no big deal. But how many other doses of other substances which individually are beneficial/benign do we take every day?

    Keep in mind that you’re taking more than just one “dose” of fluoride a day. Since it comes in your tap water you’re drinking it, eating it (when used in cooking) and bathing in it all day long. Plus everything else you use tap water for gets a dose of it.

    I wonder if fluoridation proponents would support forcing everyone to take a fluoride pill everyday? At least that way it would be a measured dose. When it’s in the water there’s no way to control now much you get.

  25. “Joseph Heller,” (*) probably not that one
    January 26, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    The NY Times agrees with you Fred:
    “For decades, the issue of fluoridated water remained on the fringes. . . . But as more places, like Fairbanks and parts of Canada, take up the issue in a more measured way, it is shifting away from conspiracy and toward the mainstream. The conclusion among these communities is that with fluoride now so widely available in toothpaste and mouthwash, there is less need to add it to water, which already has naturally occurring fluoride. Putting it in tap water, they say, is an imprecise way of distributing fluoride; how much fluoride a person gets depends on body weight and water consumed.” Link here
    Since Arcata voted down Measure W, Fairbanks, Albuquerque, Calgary, Wichita, Santa Fe, and the booming metropolis of Crescent City have discontinued community water fluoridation. Watsonville won out over the CDA after a multi-year battle. Some Large communities have started up water fluoridation. Portland, about the last of the non-fluoridated larger cities is having a battle over a plan to fluoridate. Hawaii has a mandatory statewide bill moving through its legislature.
    It has been some time since the DHHS made its recommendation that the optimal concentration be dropped from 1ppm to .07ppm to reduce the incidence of dental fluorosis. Does anyone know if Eureka and Arcata have dropped the concentration yet?

  26. January 27, 2013 at 9:52 am

    Yeah, yeah; you know it’s really annoying when someone makes fun of the Building #7 issue, or the Pentagon “crash,” as being lame “conspiracy” theories. Point being that anyone who asks any questions about those two events is somehow an idiot, or a nutcase.
    Ok, great. So could you please explain to me why there is no plane at the pentagon, or why Building #7 collapsed? I don’t believe in conspiracies, I believe in policies. But it’s pretty obvious to me, looking at the Pentagon film, that there is no plane. So, do you have some fabricated reasoning, that has already been shown to be ludicrous, to put out? Or do you just do the put-down of anyone who believes what they see, as opposed to what they’re told.

  27. Mitch
    January 27, 2013 at 9:56 am

    moviedad,

    http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11/

    I agree that, looking at particular fragments of evidence, a very good case can be made that 9/11 was a fraud. When looking at only particular fragments of evidence, almost any case can be made and almost any prejudice can find support.

    The problem is not that people are abusing the evidence; it is that they are willingly restricting the scope of the evidence they choose to listen to and look for.

    That’s why the idea of a prosecutor and a defense attorney both bringing information to the attention of a judge and jury is so brilliant.

  28. Anonymouse
    January 27, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Anyone who thinks 9/11 was a fraud or who thinks the CIA or Pres Bush was involved or knew specifics about it beforehand is moron who has been smoking too much medicinal pot to be of any use to society.

  29. February 5, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    The official 9/11 story in less than 5 minutes. It doesn’t exactly make a lot of sense and is about as hard to believe as any other story.

    Aside from that, it still says on toothpaste that fluoride is poison and people that ingest too much might be prone to conspiracy theories.

    Oh, and watch this video: http://youtu.be/MmbPh3u7_q0

  30. Mitch
    February 6, 2013 at 7:02 am

    Tom,

    The official 9/11 story is that religious crazies, convinced of rewards on earth for their families and in heaven for themselves, realized that they could turn airplanes into missiles simply by being willing to die in the process. It was possible to recruit such people because there are many people alive today who do not believe America has shown good behavior on the world stage. It was possible to succeed because, in general, our spy agencies are not as competent as they would like us to believe, because the person sitting in the Oval Office was outstandingly incompetent and derelict of his duty, and because until the first planes hit their targets, the traveling public did not understand what might take place.

    It seems totally credible to me.

    The official fluoride story is that public health officials have for decades weighed all the evidence they’ve had available and have chosen to add fluoride to public water supplies, believing that this is better for public health than the available alternatives, including the “no action” alternative. They may be wrong, but I’m glad the decision to fluoridate or not is made by dedicated public health officials who devote careers to examining evidence and implementing programs as best they can based on their study of available evidence, as opposed to whoever shouts loudest.

    This also seems totally credible to me, although I understand why many people do not like the idea that a chemical is being added to their drinking water against their will.

  31. HUUFC
    February 6, 2013 at 8:28 am

    I prefer the term murderous muslims because it accurately describes the animals that murdered 3000 of out fellow Americans that awful day.
    Good behavior? You actually think they care about our behavior? They hate us because we are not muslim, Very simple.

  32. Dan
    February 6, 2013 at 8:36 am

    ” murderous muslims because it accurately describes…”
    let me guess, Chuff~
    Idiot Christian Soldier. Sermon? On what Mount?

  33. HUUFC
    February 6, 2013 at 9:58 am

    No, just the facts, annoying aren’t they?

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