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Which is Eureka’s Trashiest Motel?

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[Update:  Yes indeedy!  I'm deleting irrelevant comments! Even just annoying and juvenile ones!  Again! It's just like fascism, only cyberrific --Mitch]

Any drive along US 101 through Eureka offers a bleak view of many presumably inexpensive motels used by those who have no better alternative.

Herald readers, which are the worst?  Who owns them?  Why are they the worst?

In addition to the “Big Rat” award for worst overall, several “Little Rat” awards may be granted for worst physical plant, biggest ripoff, ugliest overall, and out of business but still dragging the city down.  If merited, a lifetime achievement award may be granted by the judges for “owner most well-connected,” or best supporting role by a politician or bureaucrat.

  1. Bioman
    January 29, 2013 at 9:01 am

    From what I’ve read and seen as I drive by the “Royal” on 5th is the worst.

  2. Businessman
    January 29, 2013 at 9:09 am

    These motels are a blight. They are what tourists see when they come through Eureka. The County, City, Welfare Dept., or Rescue Groups give transients free coupons to stay in these places and it must be very lucrative for the owners because none ever seem to close. These are the true slumlords that perpetuate the terrible appearance of the Highway corridor in Eureka, or possibly the true perpetuator is that our representatives don’t solve the transient problem with a permanent facility for homeless and transients.

  3. January 29, 2013 at 10:04 am

    The ones on Broadway are terrible for our image but the truly trashiest are in Valley West.

  4. Dan
    January 29, 2013 at 10:12 am

    The Red Lion looks OK from 4th St.
    If looked at from 3rd St. it is a different
    story. The bldg. severely blights the
    residential block to its north.

  5. January 29, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Dan :
    The Red Lion looks OK from 4th St.
    If looked at from 3rd St. it is a different
    story. The bldg. severely blights the
    residential block to its north.

    Agreed. Red Lion looks pretty crappy from the back side.

    I’m not sure which is the worst of the cheap ones. I usually use Christie’s for an example, but that’s just because it’s the only one I regularly notice. I suppose it doesn’t count since it’s long closed but the old Downtowner, near Eureka Inn, needs to be torched. Used to be a pretty nice place, though.

    Anybody remember the old Triangle Motel that used to sit at the intersection of 4th/5th and Broadway. Now THAT was a dive.

  6. Mitch
    January 29, 2013 at 10:26 am

    As noted at the top, I’m once again in censorship mode. Irrelevant or annoying comments are likely to be tossed when I notice them.

    There’s no good solution. I don’t mind the crazy people, but I do get the sense that sometimes topics are intentionally diverted. If you prefer your blogs unmoderated, start one and leave it unmoderated.

  7. jr
    January 29, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Fred: I remember when The Downtowner was built (about 1970) because the developers were hoping that Caltrans would choose the red route for the Eureka freeway which would have been around 9th Street. The Downtowner had a restaurant and lounge and was a high quality hotel. In the 80s the Eureka Inn bought it for “overflow”. Sad to see it today. I also remember the Triangle Motel as well as the original Bayview “motorcourt” now replaced by a two story inn.

  8. January 29, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Yep. I stayed at the Downtowner my first night in town after returning from basic training for the National Guard. Used to deliver pizza to the lounge there, too, back when I worked at Sabrina’s and we were the only place in town that delivered. Nice lounge with what seemed like a friendly crowd.

    Not sure I remember the Bayview motorcourt. I noticed the Triangle Motel as soon as I moved up here in ’73 and thought it was a dive when I first saw it. I recall reading complaints about it and someone finally managed to get it torn down.

  9. January 29, 2013 at 11:14 am

    The entire town is so trashy, I wish there was a by-pass.

  10. Dan
    January 29, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Mark, the whole town? Little harsh there.
    A bypass would certainly improve conditions,
    if it bypasses to the east, not as an overhead
    through town.

  11. Anonymous
    January 29, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    The Blue Heron takes the cake, followed by the Budget Motel, the Royal Inn, and the Broadway Motel, in no particular order.

  12. That Man
    January 29, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    the budget hands down.

    its so shitty i wouldn’t even work their as the manager, I’m homeless and i was offered the job…..the place should be condemned, burned down and turned into a parking lot, (its not good enough to be a park)

  13. Ellin
    January 29, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    There is a “bypass” already… Entering Eureka from north on 101, turn Left on “V” street, follow it to Harris, turn East on Harris to I street, turn South on I street, go south to Manzanita, turn East go a couple blocks to “F” street and follow the curves of Fairway Drive until it becomes Herrick Avenue, and proceed to 101. You have missed the ugly part of Eureka entirely, and passed exactly 3 stop lights.

    For going north, use same route, exiting freeway at Herrick/Elk River Road.

    That route takes 20% less time to go through Eureka, and isn’t annoying at all. Very few stoplights and no trashy motel buildings to worry about. Heck with a good look at Google Map, you might even find the 3rd bypass through Eureka that already exists !! Have fun!!

  14. Goldie
    January 29, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    I have wondered about the trashy hotels and the visitors they invite. Do the low level lodgings create and maintain the folks of low desires and expectations or have the people created the hotels? In the dance between the two of them lowness is maintained and perhaps encouraged.

  15. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    @Mark Sailor: Eureka’s pretty nice off the 101 corridor, and full of nice people building our neighborhoods and communities. Eureka just needs more love, and a lot of us are giving it.

    The cheap motel blight is a huge glaring obstacle to building tourism. Most trashy motels are essentially Single Room Occupany (SRO) tenements. Nobody has come up with a better plan since the previous SRO’s were shut down back in the day to clean up Old Town. Now they’re along 101 instead in the form of crumbling 1960’s motor inns. Jimmy Smith, bless his heart, did what he could to encourage/enforce several of them cleaning up a bit and it’s been getting a bit better. Still a huge blight to our town and leaves a poor impression to both locals and visitors. We could and should do better.
    Unfortunately the whole HHS apparatus makes use of that current situation, so there’s currently no economic incentive for anything to change.
    There’s a Broadway upgrade study going on with Caltrans et. al. that may include landscaped medians/left turn lanes and other upgrades, if we make our voices heard in the process, that could make it more attractive to developers who might buy current landowners out. Just hope if that happens, they can do more city style buildings (a la Arcata or Portland or SF or pretty much everywhere these days) closer in to downtown rather than going with strip mall/parking lot style like we’ve seen on South Broadway.

  16. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    @ Ellin:
    Much love to you, but driving through people’s neighborhoods so you don’t have to see 101 blight is shortsighted. First off, it takes longer than Broadway unless you’re driving too fast. You’re going through people’s neighborhoods, where kids are walking to school, we’re out biking and walking our dogs. Nobody wants to live on a freeway (except for folks in the Budget Motel LOL), so please consider not turning our neighborhood surface streets into freeway bypasses in order to think you’re saving time. You’re not.

  17. jr
    January 29, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    Sunny Side: I agree with your assessment of driving through Eureka. For all the traffic, there are remarkably few bottlenecks and traffic moves for the most part at the speed limit. With regard to your comment about using neighborhoods as alternatives, one should add NOT using Hi 255 through Manila or Old Arcata Road as an alternative to the safety corridor for the same reasons. (A historical note: I remember Broadway when there were no signals south of Wabash with the first one being installed at Henderson in 1972.)

  18. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    @Dan and Mark:
    A bypass to the east up Elk River behind Cutten and coming out in Freshwater was considered, but that would mean taking a lot of redwood ag land out and significantly reducing the traffic count on 101 through Eureka. Unlike other bypasses, there wouldn’t be much land for developers to build sprawl on given the redwood foresty nature of the land south and east of town. That doesn’t get the support of the development community, and there’s a built in opposition from the environmental community so it thus far has been a non-starter.

    A little background:

    The first freeway proposal would have gone through Eureka all along the waterfront (a la SF’s Embarcadero freeway), completely separating the town from the Bay, and taken out Old Town. Thank God that didn’t happen.

    The most developed freeway idea was to instead bring the freeway up along the bay and then south of downtown, sort of between the Muni and the Vet’s Hall, with overpasses and such. Caltrans bought up the houses in the right of way all through downtown Eureka and moved several that were deemed of architectural significance. Those houses became poorly maintained Caltrans-managed cheap rentals for many years.

    At the end of the day, the consensus in the business community was to keep 101 through Eureka on surface streets (a la SF’s Lombard/Van Ness corridor which also features many cheaper motels). The many houses in this vast swath of the previously planned freeway route (many were very cool victorians) that Caltrans had kept pre-demo were put on the market. The freeway money was reallocated for improvements to the existing corridor (e.g. samoa bridge/101 intersection, V street turn lanes, etc).

    Thus began the post freeway-thinking revitalization of Eureka. Still ongoing, obviously, but a lot of people have put a lot of love and money into getting as far as we have. Next up is to turn Broadway into a proper Boulevard style street and encourage zero-setback, city style development along it, just like other cities everywhere have already been figuring out. Sprawl is poor land use, whether on Broadway or in Cutten.

    Sigh.

  19. Goldie
    January 29, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    What is “setback, city style development”?

  20. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    @jr: Word. 255 and Old Arcata Road are not faster, even if they feel like it, and they bring freeway traffic into people’s neighborhoods. Not cool. Old Arcata Road has had some significant traffic calming with the flip side of widening. 255 through Manila is subject to Caltrans, so community efforts there to bring similar traffic calming measures are up against significant obstacles. To Caltrans’ credit, they are working to do what they can within their guideliness. More on that project just came out and can be seen at http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist1/hum-studies/. It’s a whole different thing depending on whether the county or the state owns the road.

    @Goldie: Zero-setback, city-style development means bringing buildings right up to the sidewalk (rather than set behind parking lots) with retail below, offices and/or apartments above, like you’d find in older parts of Eureka, or the more vibrant parts of cities like SF, Portland, Seattle, or even the infill you see in Arcata. Typically 2-4 stories. These create pedestrian districts that are proven to generate more economic activity than sprawl-style strip-mall development set back behind parking lots, and cities everywhere are adopting zoning/building codes to encourage it.

  21. jr
    January 29, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    The Waterfront Route was actually the blocks between 3rd and 4th streets, so while Old Town would have been partially preserved, there would have been a “China Wall” separating Old Town and Downtown. The route behind the Eureka Inn would have destroyed the Vance House (RCAA office), perhaps equal to the Carson Mansion for its architecture. I remember in 1968 Dr. Lu, my geography professor at Humboldt, saying that the freeway needed to be built on the Samoa Peninsula with plenty of off-ramps for the surf fishers to try their luck.

  22. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    @jr: Interesting. I understand the idea of a bridge out to Samoa at the south end of town had been floated. I’m kind of glad that didn’t happen, being a dune/beach lover. Also, very glad the the Vance House didn’t get demo’d. All in all, I don’t mind 101 through Eureka, if we work to build it into a proper city boulevard for all users (like downtown) rather than a car-centric development pattern (like Broadway), more like Lombard/Van Ness in SF instead of edge-sprawl USA like a lot of other places.

  23. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    @Mitch:
    Thanks for posting something about Eureka. It’s been a while and makes me miss Heraldo…

  24. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    Back on topic, I would have nominated the Fireside. Glad that’s gone, and that the furniture store kept the cool palm trees. The landscaped horse sculpture helps too,

    I’d say the Budget, Royal and Palm tie for first. TownDowner definitely gets biggest off-101 worst motel. There’s a plan in the works by the current owner to repurpose some of it into a new hotel development. I’ve seen the plans, and they look nice, but I have no idea if there’s any funding behind it or what the timeline might be. The city was looking at doing some streetscape improvements up F St also, but I don’t know if that’s still on the table either. Maybe someone in the know could fill us in?

  25. jr
    January 29, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Sunny Side: The one problem with turning the present 101 route into a Boulevard is the noise level. One of the arguments for the Cutten route is that it got through traffic off the streets that were choked by logging trucks. It was difficult to carry a conversation on 5th Street then and it still is now. So a Grand Boulevard with zero setbacks is a worthy goal, but how does one deal with the noise of hundreds of trucks (logging and others) that are just passing through?

  26. jr
    January 29, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Sunny Side: I remember the Fireside as a very nice motel in the late 60s and 70s complete with restaurant and lounge. Ditto the Imperial 400 Motel, now the Econo Lodge at 4th and R.

  27. Goldie
    January 29, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    The ones I dislike the most are near the mall. The Pine? I think they are the reason that bums on bikes ride out into 101 especially during the late afternoon. People also dash out into traffic there as well as around the court house. I don’t mind looking at the ugly buildings as much as I fear knowing and living with memory of running over someone with my car. Thump, bump, and crunch and then according to the law I have to stop and help them and they are going to be a sad bloody mess of a human and that will haunt me.

  28. Anonymous
    January 29, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Well this blog has turned into a petty little Piftom. Even though it would be something this blog would be agaist. Irony lives.

  29. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    @jr, The Fireside was the the first place I stayed in Eureka back in 1977 as a kid when my dad was transferred from back east. My parents quickly moved us to the one by the courthouse until we found a house. I never experienced it as a nice place and just remember my parents being freaked out about it.

    The logging trucks aren’t so much an issue now, but traffic counts continue to increase in Eureka, along with everywhere else, faster than population growth, along with noise and air pollution for the people/sidewalks/buildings/neighborhoods next to it. I personally think that if Eureka creates a vibrant, dense, yet increasingly gridlocked, destination urban center, Broadway will become an independently economically viablel corridor through town regardless of 101 through traffic. A growing political will and financial viability will grow to build a 101 bypass south of town. The development community will no longer fear the loss of traffic count, and city folk will see the benefit of removing surface traffic from what will already be economically viable city neighborhoods with or without the traffic count. Eureka will be a destination, with more profitable businesses because of higher density in the city itself. If you’re a CR student living in Arcata, you can take the bypass to get to class. On the way home, you’ll want to come through Eureka because it’s the city and that’s where you want to be.

    @Goldie: Broadway desperately needs pedestrian/aesthetic improvements. In the densest population center between SF and Portland, many people who live in the neighborhoods near the densest concentration of commerce, will drive, even a few blocks, if they need to cross to a business on the west side of Broadway. Nobody wants to be hit by a car on Broadway, and nobody driving wants to hit anyone. Bottom line is that improvements to Broadway could make it safer for drivers, pedestrians, and everyone else, and also make it more economically productive. We need to get Caltrans on board and line up funding.

  30. Sunny Side
    January 29, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    @Anonymous #28: Is “petty little Piftom” meant to be “petty little Fiefdom?” Is “agaist” meant to be “aghast” or “against?”

    Agreed I’d like to see HH get back to its local roots (and I’m pro-Arkley yet anti-Arkleyville!) instead of left/right macro arguments about stuff mostly outside our influence. Mitch isn’t a Eurekite, so there you go. Where have you gone, Heraldo?

  31. jr
    January 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    Sunny Side: Your arguments for 101 around Eureka through Cutten (the “green route”) are sound because Eureka could then develop as a destination for those who WANT to visit the city. I was in support of this route when first proposed, but under the condition that the land adjacent to the route were zoned as greenbelt in perpetuity so that commercial development would not occur along the right of way. Instead, Grand Boulevards would run into the central city for those needing services, and effectively eliminating the concerns of a route that “by-passed” Eureka.

  32. Dan
    January 29, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Thanks jr., Sunny Side and the rest.
    I learned a lot.

  33. TM maybe
    January 30, 2013 at 6:18 am

    Wow. Though I am not exactly proud when I drive 101 through town, people who
    rip through residential neighborhoods looking for a ‘faster’ route must be real speed-jerks..
    Have none of you been to other cities? We still have it pretty darn good up here.
    Perhaps a city council NOT made up of ‘good ol boys’ might help?

  34. Mitch
    January 30, 2013 at 6:56 am

    Sunny Side,

    You’re welcome. This post resulted from a suggestion from a “friend of the Herald.”

    As you say, I’m not a Eurekite. It would be great if those with more knowledge of Eureka would step up, perhaps contributing by emailing Eric Kirk. I can’t speak for Eric, but I’d imagine he’d be thrilled to put up useful ideas and information.

    What’s kind of funny/sad is that I, too, miss the old Herald. But lacking the sort of information Heraldo appeared to have, I did what I could to keep it alive in his/her/their absence.

  35. Ellin
    January 30, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Sunny Side :
    @ Ellin:
    Much love to you, but driving through people’s neighborhoods so you don’t have to see 101 blight is shortsighted. First off, it takes longer than Broadway unless you’re driving too fast. You’re going through people’s neighborhoods, where kids are walking to school, we’re out biking and walking our dogs. Nobody wants to live on a freeway (except for folks in the Budget Motel LOL), so please consider not turning our neighborhood surface streets into freeway bypasses in order to think you’re saving time. You’re not.

    With much love to you also, but you made some huge assumptions.

    Assumption one: I’m not doing it to “not see the 101 blight,” in fact I think many people make way too big a deal about what Eureka looks like. None of the people who have visited me ever remarked on it, and it’s no uglier than other roadside stretches of California. I don’t drive on 101 because I don’t shop at many of stores on that road and my asthma is aggravated by exhaust fumes.

    I drive through Eureka the back way because the houses and streets are beautiful and second because it’s the way to drop off kids at school, to get to my friends’ houses and the shops along the side streets. Please tell me how to drop off kids at the schools without getting off 101? Several shopping areas including Eureka Mall and Henderson Center would dry up and shrivel if everyone was required to drive only on 101. You can’t lock up the side streets and have a vibrant economy.

    Assumption two: I don’t drive over the speed limit on the freeway or city streets. Like almost everyone else around me, I’m driving through the streets of Eureka at or below the speed limit. You may notice the fast ones more, but they are not out-numbered by the careful drivers who follow the rules and brake for pedestrians, bikers and dogs despite the occasional raised middle digit from someone in way too much of a hurry to go nowhere.

    Even driving at or below the speed limit, it takes less time to go through Eureka on the back streets than it does on the 101 corridor, which could easily be changed if whoever “balances” the traffic lights would get out there and fix them for flow instead of “stop, stop, stop” which only makes air pollution and delay.

    Besides if cars didn’t have to stop all the time, anyone bothered by homeless people and the motels wouldn’t see it so much. Sorry if my flippant remark to the prior commentator led you astray. Attempts at humor on blog posts often fail.

  36. anonymous
    January 30, 2013 at 11:09 am

    The Blue Heron, hands down. Because of no maintenance it looks like it’s being readied for demolition. The noise and vibration from traffic is constant. To charge anyone to live there is greed and nothing more. I’ve heard the county pays up to $800 a month for some of these cockroach infested rooms. There has to be a better way to house those in need than lining the pockets of slumlords.

  37. jr
    January 30, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Where in Eureka is this “motel”? I can’t place it.

  38. anonymous
    January 30, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Ellin, as a person who lives in Eureka I drive 101 in both directions frequently and the vast majority of the time the lights are synchronized to give precedence to 101 traffic. I do notice that I have to sit at lights to cross 101 for long periods of time and if I’m the third car to cross I sometimes have to wait for another light change. Once enough cars start using your route through the residential areas those areas become less hospitable to most people, property values go down and there goes the neighborhood just so you don’t have to expose yourself to blight. Ah, the blissfulness of me, me, me,………………….

  39. anonymous
    January 30, 2013 at 11:28 am

    jr – it’s on Broadway a few blocks south of the Serenity Inn on the east side. It’s light blue in color with a strip of rooms facing and very close to Broadway. There’s also a 2 story building that houses the office. There may be a sign but if there is it’s not prominent enough to see during the usual drive-by.

  40. January 30, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Pardon me, J.W. is getting on my last nerve on the other thread.

    Heraldo . . .I wasn’t here, so I have no known opinion about getting back to ‘roots.’ There’s no going back, and would you really want to – just to arrive here again?

    We are still moving along the path of BAU – Business as usual is not tenable, and a fundamental change is called for.

    The current drama of the world, the breakdown and breakthrough of every old way of being, knowing, relating, governing, and believing, shakes the foundations of all, and everything. . .
    And allows for another order of reality to come into time. It has been said that we are the first generation in history that can decide whether its the last in history. Add that, our generation is also the first in history that can decide whether it will be a generation of a NEW phase in history – the emergence of a sustainable civilization birthed by the global emergency.

    When a major change happens in life, our tendancy is to dig in our heels and resist. In these times may we have the wisdom, willingness and courage to let go . . and go with the flow of the emergence of the new story. There isn’t a greater moment of probability for transformation than right now. As we experience an all-systems breakdown, we are clearly, at the same time, in the midst of an all-systems breakthrough.

    As a species we are no longer the subject of the evolutionary process, we have become the authors of it. We are the news.

  41. January 30, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Alas, the “Herald” will never again have the “insider” access that it had with Glass. He used to get documents even before some of the City Council members received them. That was how it became obvious who he was. No one outside of the courthouse-inner circle could have gotten such tip-off’s on controversial subjects so early. I suppose if you had a friend in the clerk’s office who called you whenever a hot-potato came along….
    As someone who has been a fan of blogs from the very beginning, and a fan of ‘Letters to the Editor” before that; I feel that blogs have begun to “run their course.” It just seems like there is never any solutions to problematic issues offered, just more issue data. More commentary on what is happening, with the other side denying anything is happening at all. Just a lot of back’n’forth, with nothing new. It’s pretty pointless, even though everyone has a point.
    So what’s next? Who knows, the internet has become a home-shopping channel.
    In my opinion the biggest problem with blogs is the anonymous commentary. People talk a bunch of nonsense without consequences, and that leads to more and more inflammatory rhetoric. There’s no end to the put-downs and the clever ways to discredit your political opposition. Once again, what’s the point?
    I just don’t understand the fear. What are people afraid of? Why talk on a blog at all if you’re so scared to have people know who you are? Self-censorship is the highest form cowardice.
    Was it Goebbles who said it’s the well-trained dog that whips itself?
    Sorry to see blogs go by the wayside, they were fun while they lasted.

  42. Anonymous
    January 30, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    It was Oscar Wilde who said, “Give a man a mask and he’ll tell you the truth.” Anonymous and pseudonymous commentary plays an important role in public debate because people believe they will be punished for speaking their minds when their “superiors” have different views. Most “superiors” won’t admit their sudden unhappiness with “performance” is due to political views (some do http://sandrarose.com/2009/01/employer-plans-to-lay-off-obama-supporters/) but it is obvious to the employees. Most people have worked with people who claim to believe anything the boss believes when they have expressed opposite opinions to you privately.

  43. Just Watchin
    January 30, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    I guess Forest Queen figures that she can “hide out” on a different thread and avoid the question about driving without a liscense and insurance: “…..you still haven’t answered how you would pay for damages or medical bills as a result of causing an auto accident. Please enlighten us, or would you just say ooops, sorry, and walk away?”
    FQ….you always profess to have all the answers to save humanity. This is an easy question compared to saving the world.

  44. January 30, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    anonymous :
    jr – it’s on Broadway a few blocks south of the Serenity Inn on the east side. It’s light blue in color with a strip of rooms facing and very close to Broadway. There’s also a 2 story building that houses the office. There may be a sign but if there is it’s not prominent enough to see during the usual drive-by.

    So that’s the Blue Heron now? Seems to me it used to have another name, if we’re thinking of the same place. There was a big stink made over it, small though the place may be, some years ago. They cleaned the place up and it looked nice for a while.

    It’s still not as bad as it used to be, imo, but it certainly says something about efforts to clean a place up hoping it will stay nice.

  45. anonymous
    January 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    The building is not the problem. It is all the druggies that are living there.

  46. January 30, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    anonymous :
    The building is not the problem. It is all the druggies that are living there.

    Yep, but many people think if you just give them a nice place to stay, problem solved.

  47. Adiosyouchickenpluckinlittlestinker
    January 30, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    moviedad :Alas, the “Herald” will never again have the “insider” access that it had with Glass. He used to get documents even before some of the City Council members received them. That was how it became obvious who he was. No one outside of the courthouse-inner circle could have gotten such tip-off’s on controversial subjects so early. I suppose if you had a friend in the clerk’s office who called you whenever a hot-potato came along….As someone who has been a fan of blogs from the very beginning, and a fan of ‘Letters to the Editor” before that; I feel that blogs have begun to “run their course.” It just seems like there is never any solutions to problematic issues offered, just more issue data. More commentary on what is happening, with the other side denying anything is happening at all. Just a lot of back’n’forth, with nothing new. It’s pretty pointless, even though everyone has a point.So what’s next? Who knows, the internet has become a home-shopping channel.In my opinion the biggest problem with blogs is the anonymous commentary. People talk a bunch of nonsense without consequences, and that leads to more and more inflammatory rhetoric. There’s no end to the put-downs and the clever ways to discredit your political opposition. Once again, what’s the point?I just don’t understand the fear. What are people afraid of? Why talk on a blog at all if you’re so scared to have people know who you are? Self-censorship is the highest form cowardice.Was it Goebbles who said it’s the well-trained dog that whips itself?Sorry to see blogs go by the wayside, they were fun while they lasted.

    Agree as well!
    So long Herald. Now I have space on my favorites bar for the LoCo.

  48. January 31, 2013 at 7:16 am

    It’s not illegal to post public documents, or minutes from public meetings.
    #42 makes my point perfectly. Look at how much power you give an employer by cowering to him concerning your own political views. One should stand up for the right to hold whatever opinion one has. If the “Boss” don’t like it then take it to court. I know, the “Boss” has money and lawyers, but this is America, Baby, and just cuz’ some fool owns a business he doesn’t have the right to force his workers to multiply his vote. It’s illegal, it’s immoral and it’s anti-American.

  49. Anonymous
    January 31, 2013 at 7:18 am

    You don’t have a right to express your political views at work Moviedad and employers don’t say I’m firing you because of your views. Your naivete is sweet but not realistic.

  50. Mitch
    January 31, 2013 at 7:24 am

    I asked Quickdraw McGoogle about employment law surrounding expression of political views away from work:

    Four states, California, Colorado, New York and North Dakota, also have what is known as lifestyle discrimination statutes that protect employees’ off-duty political activity. Though it may seem harsh for an employer to dismiss someone because they went to a political rally on a Saturday, at least in theory, an employer could do so, says Hurd, except in the four states with the off-duty political activity exceptions. Just last month Vante Inc., a medical supply manufacturer in Tucson, Ariz., reportedly fired its chief financial officer, Adam Smith, after he posted a YouTube video of himself berating a Chick-fil-A employee for the company’s opposition to gay marriage. According to an account in the Denver Business Journal, the company issued a statement that said that Smith’s actions “do not reflect our company values in any manner.”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2012/09/04/talking-politics-at-work-can-get-you-fired/

    Of course, what the lifestyle discrimination statute mostly means is that employers have to tell you you’ve been fired for something else. For a private employer, pretty much anything will do, including the fact that the employee is now seen as dangerously attractive and making your spouse jealous.

  51. High Finance
    January 31, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Employers rarely fire someone because of their political views, in fact I have never personally seen it done or spoken to someone who actually saw it done.

    To make that claim exhibits a basic lack of knowledge of how the work world works. Employees are valuable to employers. We hate firing anyone unless we absolutely have to. Not just because of humanitarian grounds but because anytime you hire a new employee you are taking a chance as to how good that new person will be. Then training a new employee is a drag on the efficiency of the entire office. Most jobs will take a new employee up to six months to get up to speed.

  52. Owl
    January 31, 2013 at 8:28 am

    May I suggest having Lunch at New Moon and taking a window seat. Great food and Eureka reality at it’s worst across the street. i am sort of shocked EPD doesnt just sit in there, drink coffee, walk outside and make arrests. btw dont go to early, there clearly either isnt a check out time or people dont check out. About 12:30 you will see a crew of sleepy eyed addicts hanging over the rail smoking and calling down to people on the street by 1:30 shop is open and it is full on traffic up and down the stairs, carrying tool boxes and other barterables. We actually watched a trashy hooker one day walk up the stairs with a guy, 1/2 hour later the guy left actually adjusting himself, and she went right nextdoor to the room with all the drug traffic and then straight back to her room. Gimme a break, I am not a cop but these guys make it too easy.

  53. Anonymous
    January 31, 2013 at 8:28 am

    There have been CEO’s who threatened to fire employees who voted for Obama, those who would put Obama supporters at the top of the list for layoffs and radio pundit calls for people to complain about liberal co-workers and employees where they do business to get them fired “for cause.”

  54. January 31, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Thumbs-up Moviedad.

  55. Beachcomber Marie
    January 31, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Ever read the reviews for Motel 6 on Broadway? Interesting…and a little frightening.

  56. Anonymous
    January 31, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    The whole 101 blight is an embarrassment. The Chamber of Commerce and the Visitor Center sit in the middle of the mess and do nothing. Druggies, homeless and welfare trash are the first thing anyone sees as they drive into town. Meanwhile the mayor of our city is ignoring the problems for his own religious obsession! This place is insane.

  57. Elmer Fudd
    January 31, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    What should the Chamber of Commerce do? Burn down the Roach Motels and beat up the transients? Would that be more sane to you? I’d like to hear your “sane” suggestions #57.

  58. January 31, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Elmer Fudd :
    What should the Chamber of Commerce do? Burn down the Roach Motels and beat up the transients? Would that be more sane to you? I’d like to hear your “sane” suggestions #57.

    Exactly. What would #57 suggest. Where would those folks live if not where they are now?

  59. Anonymous
    February 1, 2013 at 1:41 am

    You can scan all the license plates in the parking lot of courthouse,the arkley theater,the welfare offices,security national,and all the other municipal buildings in town almost gaurantee you’ll find at least five professionals in these slum hotels.
    We all know people of wealth that are functioning drug addicts that have important jobs in Eureka. It’s not unusual to find a lawyer,real estate agent,and the county appraiser in the same Eureka crackhouse together. Sad but true!

  60. Beachcomber Marie
    February 1, 2013 at 8:20 am

    Interestingly enough, the Blue Heron is currently on fire.

  61. February 1, 2013 at 8:34 am

    Shouldn’t I hear fire engines if it’s on fire? Well, maybe not.

  62. Anonymous
    February 1, 2013 at 10:17 am

    T-S “Early morning blaze at Blue Heron Lodge
    A Humboldt Bay Fire official has confirmed that crews responded to a blaze at the Blue Heron Lodge in Eureka just before 8 a.m. this morning. The fire, located on the 2000 block of Broadway Street, is reportedly out, the official said.”

  63. Anonymous
    February 1, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Early morning blaze at Blue Heron Lodge
    A Humboldt Bay Fire official has confirmed that crews responded to a blaze at the Blue Heron Lodge in Eureka just before 8 a.m. this morning. The fire, located on the 2000 block of Broadway Street, is reportedly out, the official said.

  64. Anonymous
    February 1, 2013 at 10:18 am

    TS “Early morning blaze at Blue Heron Lodge
    A Humboldt Bay Fire official has confirmed that crews responded to a blaze at the Blue Heron Lodge in Eureka just before 8 a.m. this morning. The fire, located on the 2000 block of Broadway Street, is reportedly out, the official said….”

  65. February 1, 2013 at 11:02 am

    KIEM TV says someone has been detained, but not yet arrested, as being involved in the fire: http://kiem-tv.com/node/4703

  66. Mrs. Thomas
    February 1, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    If your comment does not abide by rules of common courtesy it has been or will be deleted. If your comment attacks another person in even the slightest manner it will be deleted. If you over post with nothing of value to add to the conversation, the posts will be deleted.
    If you are confused about etiquette or the concept of courtesy Google it and read up.

  67. February 2, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    You do realize “Mrs. Thomas,” if that is, your real name; that there is already a “Queen” here. And her Majesty does not share power! Ha!
    So if you’re the new boss, I have a suggestion for you, free of charge; monetize this blog, hire a non-anonymous moderator, get a partner in the court-clerk’s office, and you’ll be one of few non-retail sites on the internet making money. Just a thought. You already have brand-recognition.
    This is all the consultation I can give you without an invoice. Good luck.

  68. Anonymous
    February 3, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Speaking of our devout Mayor and of the roach motels that litter this charming little Victorian Seaport by the Bay reminds me of the old poem about the vicar who knelt in his garden to deal with the bugs that had infested his rose bushes, saying “Let us Spray!”

  69. Goldie
    February 3, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    It took me a minute to get it. Nicely done. Not eveyone approves of spraying in public.

  70. Gogord Gram
    February 3, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Businessman :
    These motels are a blight. They are what tourists see when they come through Eureka. The County, City, Welfare Dept., or Rescue Groups give transients free coupons to stay in these places and it must be very lucrative for the owners because none ever seem to close. These are the true slumlords that perpetuate the terrible appearance of the Highway corridor in Eureka, or possibly the true perpetuator is that our representatives don’t solve the transient problem with a permanent facility for homeless and transients.

    Yes. Some time ago I saw that :”Eureka You Found It” sign by 4th street had been modified,
    someone added a “Sh” to the existing “it”. Clever and kind of apropos. Anyway, of the current lineup, I’d say the Royal is the skeeziest, but I have not tried it to be sure.
    Back in the day, that Triangle set the bar real low, the hookers used to sit by open door
    at the sidewalk for cars slowing down to make the curve.
    It would be nice to see some drastic improvements, but the reality is Eureka has been the premier regional vice mart since its beginning days. What we call Old Town was red light district for loggers with bulging pockets coming in from the woods on weekend to blow off steam. All your fancy shoppes were then bordellos, opium dens, saloons. Our Eureka fourfathers would look at the current scene and find it pretty tame.
    You want tourism? Bring back 1880 Eureka authentic style, and coin a slogan “What happens in Eureka stays in Eureka”. Let it all hang out.

  71. Anonymous
    February 4, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    So many choices. Which one to choose!! Oh my!

  72. Anonymous
    February 4, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    That is the problem with Eureka, The locals running the town refuse to see what it for what it could be, a successful city. They keep holding it down and dragging the town back to the past.

  73. Anonymous
    February 6, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Again! It’s just like fascism, only cyberrific –Mitch

  74. Eurekite
    February 10, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    Great to see people openly discussing this shithole “hotels” that the jerk-offs in city government allow to exist out of their own incompetence. The reason they are there, functioning SRO’s, is because the city/county refuses to properly abide by its housing mandates. The almost complete lack of residential development in the 20 years I’ve known Eureka is an impressive accomplishment considering the scale of real-estate boom we went through in that time. It comes down to segregation.

    There are tracts of land ripe for development into new housing neighborhoods in the Eureka area (at present they are county lands but I fully support annexation and laugh in the stupid face of anybody who opposes it because they are simply being stupid). Those properties should be zoned for urban-dense development rather than bland suburban cul-de-sacs. In the middle of nice single family homes on a streetgrid, etc, you can incorporate apartments and denser developments that accommodate the requirement for “low-income” and other sorts of subsidized housing as required by state law. Naturally some people oppose this because they are petty, short-sighted idiots and as a result *no* development occurs at all.

    The existence of these roach motels, highly visible even, and the lack of intelligent planning and development they represent is a key economic setback for Eureka. This all comes down to truly terrible leadership over the past decade-and-a-half. The dirty secret of these nincompoops in charge is that the people who live in these squalid holes – the drug dealers and prostitues who service them, and the owners of the properties, well it just so happens that most of them are related in some way to your county and city “leadership.” This is why they aren’t scooped up and put into county. Small-time, small-town thinking by small-minded people. They fear development or economic progress primarily because it will destroy their influence.

  75. Anonymoose
    February 10, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Eurekite’s post #74 was OK until he ruined it with “.. the owners of the properties, well it just so happens that most of them are related in some way to your county & city leadership”.

    That is crap. Name names you paranoid jerk.

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