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The “Vilica Mess”

Regular readers of the Humboldt Herald are demanding a post on “the Villica mess.” Here it is.

Vilica is a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC) that purchased several thousand acres of Eel River Sawmills land for what appear to be marijuana grows. The two principal operators of Vilica are local resident Josh Hedlund — a fierce opponent of changes to TPZ (Timber Production Zone) laws — and Arcata attorney Steve Schectman.

The company gained attention when it landed on the Board of Supervisors agenda for the November 6 meeting — the same day the explosive TPZ building moratorium issue was scheduled. Hundreds of residents showed up for the meeting and got treated to the Vilica spectacle before the TPZ debate.

Neither Schectman or Hedlund attended the meeting, though at least Schectman had been notified to appear. In their stead stood private land planner Kevin Caldwell — another fierce opponent to TPZ changes — who looked hung out to dry in front of the board and the hundreds of meeting attendees.

Caldwell read a letter to the Board defending Vilica, but upon questioning revealed he had little knowledge of the corporation for which he spoke. He said he didn’t know who sat on Vilica’s board or the names of its owners, and said he hasn’t been to Vilica’s property. If it’s been logged under Vilica’s care, Caldwell didn’t know about it, nor did he know about any future harvest or management plans.

In fact, he’d only been asked to speak on Vilica’s behalf the night before.

Despite holding a seemingly knowledgeable opposition to the Oct. 9 moratorium, including a My Word in the Times-Standard*, Caldwell didn’t speak on the moratorium issue after taking one for the Vilica team in front of the Board and a packed room of spectators.

Last week’s Journal took note of the strange bed fellows brought together over TPZ. Schectman, an attorney known for environmental lawsuits against Pacific Lumber now appears to toe the same line as eco-busting timber corporations and developer interests. The combined interests could carry the slogan “TPZ is for Marijuana.”

Such relations are prime examples of what’s wrong with Humboldt County’s blind eye to current TPZ laws. If the Supes are to protect “forest resource productivity” as legislated by the State, they should disallow the conversion of TPZ into MPZ.


*The T-S falsely identified Caldwell as a land planner for Humboldt County. He’s an owner of Real Property Solutions in Miranda.

  1. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 5:57 am

    Such relations are prime examples of what’s wrong with Humboldt County’s blind eye to current TPZ laws. If the Supes are to protect “forest resource productivity” as legislated by the State, they should disallow the conversion of TPZ into MPZ.

    Blind eye? What are you talking about? Is that what they are doing with this code enforcement action?

  2. hcn
    November 15, 2007 at 6:30 am

    Very informative. A “mess” is a good description.

    Makes me wonder about Real Property Solutions of of Miranda.

  3. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 6:46 am

    The bedfellows get stranger:

    Hedlund’s other attorney on this project is Tom Herman.

  4. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 6:51 am

    The property rights movement has been around longer than our country has, and is all about “hey, it’s my property and I can do what I want with it.” They see these rights as a gift from God, a human right that does not have to be codified as law because it transcends laws. The Eureka Reporter frames the issue as a movement issue in today’s edition, saying the “issue boils down to this: who will contol the property, the owners or the zoners?”

    That question is no more than an interrogatory lie. Land use laws (e.g. zoning) exist to protect the property residents (owners or tenants), their neighbors and the community from potential harm, financial or physical. Google the term “property rights movement” for a good idea of how widespread this selfish and self-defeating cult actually is in our country. It’s much more than a few Humboldt land barons – and it’s wrong.

  5. November 15, 2007 at 7:36 am

    “Selfish and self defeating cult?” Are you insane?

    Pretty good recap, heraldo. Only thing I disagree with is the statement that anyone has turned a blind eye to the TPZ laws.

  6. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 7:42 am

    Property rights are not “God-given.” Since at least the time of the Romans it has been reconized that the ownership of the land is ultimately held by the people in common interest. It is the people, acting through their government, who determine which values of the land may be sold, transfered or exploited by the individual.

    Thus property rights are given by the people to the individual, and the people may make conditions upon those rights as necessary to protect the public interest.

  7. November 15, 2007 at 7:51 am

    Perhaps “blind eye” isn’t the best description. But the county has taken a lax position on state TPZ laws which they are rightfully reviewing now.

  8. November 15, 2007 at 7:53 am

    The bedfellows get stranger:

    Hedlund’s other attorney on this project is Tom Herman.

    If that’s true the Humboldt Herald is going to host the biggest game of connect-the-dots ever.

  9. derchoadus
    November 15, 2007 at 7:56 am

    Ever heard of ‘Eminent domain’?

  10. derchoadus
    November 15, 2007 at 7:57 am

    Seems eveyone is in the pot biz but me.

  11. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 8:13 am

    Isn’t Schectman a pot attorney? I didn’t see this story when it came out…was there a big grow busted on Vilica LLC land?

  12. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 8:15 am

    Please read about something called the Magna Carta. You may find it enlightening.

  13. November 15, 2007 at 8:26 am

    was there a big grow busted on Vilica LLC land?

    From the NCJ (linked in the post above):

    According to documents submitted to the Board of Supervisors by the county’s Code Enforcement Unit, Vilica did all the following on its Hoopa land, all without the proper permits: built homes, put in roads and building pads, installed an illegal septic system and put in numerous buildings that were used in a large-scale marijuana growing operation.

  14. Jane Doe
    November 15, 2007 at 8:32 am

    Maybe you should read the Magna Carta, 7:42. It has no relevance to this discussion.

  15. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 9:12 am

    Yeah, because the Magna Carta is the law of this land. Uh huh.

  16. derchoadus
    November 15, 2007 at 9:20 am

    I thought the law of the land was Manifest Destiny.

  17. Andrew Bird
    November 15, 2007 at 9:29 am

    I believe Kevin Caldwell used to work for the county planning/community development department. Please, somebody correct me if I am wrong.

  18. gulo gordo
    November 15, 2007 at 9:48 am

    Derch, yr not alone. I know at least a couple others who manage to limp along without a Harvest Bonus. We’re the ones driving the beat-up old rigs…

    H-bomb, what about the SPAWN case Hedlund was spouting about — something from Marin? Guy seems like a real piece of work from what I’ve heard. A hipster Hurwitz, someone called him.

    And wasn’t there something about a federal indictment in there too?

  19. November 15, 2007 at 10:02 am

    Oh, those little things? Yeah, Hedlund has some serious baggage tied to land use issues. I’ll dig up some links.

  20. November 15, 2007 at 10:04 am

    Heraldo, you said“If the Supes are to protect “forest resource productivity” as legislated by the State, they should disallow the conversion of TPZ into MPZ.”

    You’ve left a lot to the imagination. I think that growing any sort of cash crop can compatible with timber production.

    To me, Villica is an extreme example of how to do it the wrong way. It’s kind of like looking at a Maxxam clearcut and saying we should outlaw logging altogether.

    Whether it’s medical cannibis, pick your own blueberries, or anything else, we need to have ways of generating revenue on TPZ to allow heavily logged forests to recover.

    Otherwise we are excluding all but the wealthy from owning TPZ. It’s becoming hard not to interpret Mark Lovelaces slogan, “TPZ is for Timber” as “TPZ is for Timber Companies”.

    If average people can’t afford to pay for land I’m afraid it will fall into the hands of those who can. Namely companies like Green Diamond, Barnum, and Pacific Lumber.

    I think that overall, smaller landowners have less of an impact on the land than the large timber companies. Most of the bad roads out there that Steve Lewis constantly complains about started as logging roads.

    I strongly hope that the county will adopt two sets of TPZ regulations, one for industrial and another for non-industrial ownerships. Small landowners should not have to be in the same boat as PL and Green Diamond.

  21. Huggs
    November 15, 2007 at 10:06 am

    As I have noted previously, SPAWN v. Marin is being used falsely in this TPZ issue. Caldwell et. al. are wrong. They all need to read the case, ministerial CEQA case law, and their CEQA handbooks closely.

    And yes, Kevin worked at the County as a public planner.

  22. November 15, 2007 at 10:11 am

    two sets of TPZ regulations, one for industrial and another for non-industrial ownerships.

    I agree. Lumping land owners with Maxxam isn’t fair.

    Maybe there should also be a distinction between industrial and non-industrial pot production.

    Kevin worked at the County as a public planner.

    Yes, but he’s not currently a planner for the County as stated by the Times-Standard.

  23. November 15, 2007 at 10:18 am

    Now that Heraldo is yielding to calls for specific post items, I’d like to see some reviews of restaurants and locally produced wines.

    Accede to these instructions, or else I’ll pepper your threads with further demands.

  24. gulo gordo
    November 15, 2007 at 10:27 am

    I’d like to see some reviews of restaurants

    and where’s the best place for take-out carrion around here?

  25. November 15, 2007 at 10:32 am

    “Maybe there should also be a distinction between industrial and non-industrial pot production.”

    A great idea.

    and where’s the best place for take-out carrion around here?

    Hwy 299. Hwy 36 isn’t bad either.

  26. November 15, 2007 at 10:33 am

    over ‘n out.

  27. Jane Doe
    November 15, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Anywhere along 101 where the new divider is, Gulo. You can choose from deer, raccoon, fox, porcupine, opposum, and some unidentified but undoubtedly yummy squished animals. The only place I have seen more road kill is on I-5 in Oregon in sections where they have even higher dividers between north and south lanes.

  28. November 15, 2007 at 10:56 am
  29. theotheme
    November 15, 2007 at 11:07 am

    i still cant find any word of a bust on villica property. i can find info about an ABATEMENT hearing and i see the mention of a “large scale grow operation”….i am not sure what happened here. possibly nothing. is the county ASSUMING that pot was going to be grown there? or was it being grown there?? thats the answer i want. was there pot there or not?

    i urge people to look at the county’s abatement hearing documents. lots of pictures. please give me feedback regarding the pics. do the pics show a large scale grow operation? to me, it looks like a broken down trailer with an un used hoop greenhouse that lacked any plastic coverings. the place was a mess. didnt look like a successful pot operation to me.

  30. November 15, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    yeah, otherme, that is undoubtedly how they make the mortgage payment, with an unsuccessful grow, it’s the only way, don’t ya know. How much a month is the mortgage payment on Six Mill?

    Actually, heraldo, I think you had it half right – there has been a blind eye turned – not to TPZ, but to illegal grow operations. Maybe it is time that changed.

  31. gulo gordo
    November 15, 2007 at 1:53 pm

    Anywhere along 101 where the new divider is, Gulo.

    Too true — I did see a roadkilled bobcat right next to the pond where 101 is closest to CR.

    Tasty, but very sad. Place needs one of those Canadian style critter overpasses.

  32. theotherme
    November 15, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    this arguement is about making a mortgage payment? i dont understand what is being discussed here i guess….claims of a bust with no people busted or plants found…an abatement claim that is mistaken as a multi-million dollar business?…….an assumption that all the money is from pot?…………you people are truly funny

  33. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    I guess the animals aren’t using the “animal crossings” they installed?

  34. Jane Doe
    November 15, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    Maybe they couldn’t read the directions, 2:58. It’s all their fault, trying to use the paths that used to work.

  35. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    jane doe blog troll

  36. Anonymous
    November 15, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    won’t wash here either,this is the bull that needs county attention not folks following rules. TPZ houses are A O K,pot grows are not.

  37. Jane Doe
    November 15, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    You found me out, 5:25 LOL

  38. me
    November 15, 2007 at 5:44 pm

    according to propostition 215 passed by california voters. some pot grows are legal……

  39. Anony.Miss
    November 15, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    The Prop 215 has made some growing legal, but so abused and was not the intent of the voters. The law to be “humane” to those who need to ease their pain has become the loophole for unscrupulous ones to try to make a buck (no, lots of bucks!) at the expense of others, especially if they rent; the damage they cause to buildings (permanent, sometimes!) is inexcusable, and they almost never pay the money back for this damage. There is no way there are 3,000 people around here who need to buy pot for medical reasons and the doctor(s) who write these prescriptions are unethical for doing so, and a nuisance to our communities. They should be written up and have their licenses removed by the medical board. This is ruining Arcata, taking up living space for people, raising rent prices, and bringing in a criminal element to our wonderful area. I say let’s come down on these people hard! I’m sick of these losers taking over. This stuff is smoked/inhaled- c’mon- how could it be healthy?

    signed- “maybe we all smoked it in the 70’s, but only once in awhile- we have HAD IT with these new criminal hippies!”

  40. Jane Doe
    November 15, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    Being judgmental about whether or not people “need” to smoke pot isn’t any different than judging them about anything else. If it were legal most if not all of the problems associated with it would just disappear. It would certainly bring down the prices to where people couldn’t afford to rent a house to grow it and all of the criminals would find some other way to make their big bucks.

    The fact is that pot is relatively harmless and puritanical views about harmless recreational drug use shouldn’t be the basis of laws. Prohibition has never worked but only compounds the problems associated with drugs. That was true when they outlawed alcohol and it is true today with pot.

  41. Anony.Miss
    November 15, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    I agree- legalize it, lower the price, get rid of the criminal element, and get rid of people trying to hide their grows. They can quit trying to pretend it is for the few that truly need it for medicinal reasons. I am not against pot, but I am against what it has done to our community. For now, I will evict anyone with a grow of any kind, legal or not.

  42. gulo gordo
    November 15, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    Back to Mr. Hedlund, I just noticed that Humboldt CPR seems plenty happy to have him in their ranks — he’s three up from the bottom in the second column of names in the ad on A5 of the Times-Standard. I wonder which membership category he falls into? Business owner? Property owner?

    Too bad they don’t have a slot for “federally indicted mega-grow developers with a taste for subdividing timberlands.”

  43. Anonymous
    November 16, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    Didn’t see attorney “SuckMan” there. check the police log for proper spelling.

  44. Jane Doe
    November 16, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    They don’t arrest people for being in violation of county codes. He was in court over an abatement order, not a pot bust, 2:53.

  45. Anonymous
    November 18, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    They will be arresting us soon. When you nuts get your way they will be arresting you too. When freedom and liberty is lost for one it it’s lost for all.

  46. Running Bull
    November 18, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    Liberty is relative 1:08…..

  47. interpid sleuth
    November 28, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    Josh Hedlund is behind villica LLC and many other LLCs in humboldt set up to grow pot. Hedlund’s scam is to lure naive kids into running grows and “owning” the propeties they are on. He takes the profits from the grows in the form of obscene “land payments” and when the inevitable bust happens the kids go to prison. Hedlund laughs all the way to the bank, glowing with pride over the the success of his scheme, all the while looking for more victims\growers and land to rape. He needs to be stopped. He is a parasite that thrives on secrecy. but now his house of cards is falling down and his bad karma is catching up with him. He is currently facing federal charges for a huge indoor bust in Berkeley, forwhich about seven blue collar Bay Area kids have already gone to prison. The community needs to come together and out this sociopath: his vicims need to come forward, if you have information about his crimes, including armed robberies come forward. Let’s shine the light of truth on this coachroach.

  48. FairPlay
    November 30, 2007 at 10:32 am

    If nothing has been found on the property to indicate illegal activity — why all the speculation and rumor mongering? I don’t care who has been indicted elsewhere for what — aren’t we still innocent until proven guilty? It is unfair and unethical to drag these people through the mud without any hard facts. This could be anyone of us wrongly accused. Stop and think before you slander any member of our community.

  49. Truthiness
    November 30, 2007 at 10:54 am

    Sleuth, are you one of these naive kids? If you have knowledge of these crimes why aren’t you coming forward with information? As far as I know Hedlund is in his late 20’s and hardly more than a kid himself. I agree that its unfair to make all the wild accusations because of our understandable concerns about development and our environment. Let’s stick to the issues.

  50. josh hedund
    November 30, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Interpid sleuth, are you a fed. It is unfortunate that the community has to put up with the likes of you. I am not hiding. Here is my email. My phone number is 415-850-7118. No more anonymous blogs that hurt individuals and families. Out yourself. If you want facts call or email the accused. I have grown up in humboldt, attended the first “Redwood Summer Protest”. owned PL stock, planted willows in the mattole, have a degree in environmental science, owned an organic cotton clothing company, sold shade grown coffee, developed sustainable self-sustaining ranches, and have two sons that I love. The truth doesn’t need to hide behind behind bad spelling and anonymous posting.

  51. itnpreid sleuth
    December 2, 2007 at 1:56 pm

    the truth is still the truth whether misspelled or posted anonymously. looks like i struck a nerve. did you pay “truthiness” and “fairplay” for their posts? Like you paid that guy to represent Vilica? Why didn’t you speak for Vilica yourself- it is your company. The fact is there have been grow operations found on more than one of josh Hedlund’s properties. But josh thinks others should do the time for his crimes. you can post fifty denials under different names but you remain a thief and liar. you can list your “environmental credentials” but you are still just a two bit con man, just ask the salmon protection and watershed network about Josh Hedlund’s “sustainable practices.” You can email or call Josh Hedlund, but he will just lie to you so what is the point? Josh is afraid that the victims of his cons will come forward, the long list of charges against him will grow and he will be unable to run his scams in Northern California any longer.

  52. Josh Hedlund
    December 3, 2007 at 9:05 am

    I believe in the planning process and public comment. I have sat on Green Building Committees and have commented at most of the public meetings on resources lands in Humboldt. In order to have rational community dialogue it is important to identify oneself and to listen to all input. The dialogue on forest use has come along way since the “Redwood Summer” protests and yellow ribbons. Conservation groups are now encouraging working forests, I expect that soon residential development will become a component of forest protection. Private ownership and living on the land encourage land stewardship. Sustainable development practices need to be incorporated into the planning process. How do we accomplish this without adding to an already burdensome set of government regulations that slows development? The best way is to incorporate best practices into a ministerial process. At every meeting I have stressed the importance of water storage for fire protection and conserving this important resource. At the last planning commission meeting I asked that 25,000 gallons of water storage or more be required for all TPZ residences, not as a mitigation but as a property improvement. At the October 23, 2007 supervisors meeting I asked the board to incorporate environmental best practices into the ministerial permit application, Supervisor Geist asked planning staff to incorporate my suggestions into the drafting of the ordinance. This can work, in Santa Cruz we successfully argued to get green building projects given priority status and a reduction in application fees. There is a way to encourage environmental protection while streamlining the development process. Through community dialogue and smart planning we can have a future for our children.

    What is interesting about the SPAWN lawsuit was that both sides agreed on the best practices but disagreed on the process. Now that lawsuit has been decided, you can read it at:


    SPAWN is now developing a project using the same scientists and a very similar group of technologies as were used on my home design. You can read at their website:


    SPAWN is currently working to complete the purchase of four parcels located along stream habitats and an adjacent parcel with an old house, where the organization hopes to create a “demonstration center” model with a state of the art septic system and other “salmon-friendly” designs including rainwater catchments system, permeable driveway and native plant landscaping and to offer workshops to Valley residents on implementing similar conservation measures at their homes.

    My home design in Marin was well planned to protect the environment so that it could be enjoyed by my family. You can read more about it at :


    The Marin County planning staff called it a “model project” and Supervisor Adams commented that the mitigation measures approved by the Planning Commission might actually improve the current environmental conditions on the property with respect to decreasing sedimentation and runoff.

    The following are excerpts from the filed application that show the level of detail that was put into the design of this environmentally friendly home:

    This project will comply with all applicable County standards for nutrients, sediments, and pathogens. It includes a Riparian Corridor Protection and Enhancement Plan, and directs specific project compliance on a wide range of conditions, including no direct runoff through application of infiltration technology, timing of construction, creek protection and enhancement, native plant species restoration, house activity area orientation, elimination of exterior lighting, use of environmentally superior construction materials, etc.

    Click to access item-21-WalderAppeal-RES.pdf

    I have worked hard to incorporate green business practices and sustainable technology into my life. I actively encourage all of my clients to do the same. All of the companies that I have worked for in Humboldt County comply with every rule and regulation, and any land that is sold is governed by contractual agreements that ensure environmental protection.

  53. Josh Hedlund
    December 3, 2007 at 9:46 am

    I believe in the planning process and public comment. I have sat on Green Building Committees and have commented at most of the public meetings on resources lands in Humboldt. In order to have rational community dialogue it is important to identify oneself and to listen to all input. The dialogue on forest use has come along way since the “Redwood Summer” protests and yellow ribbons. Conservation groups are now encouraging working forests, I expect that soon residential development will become a component of forest protection. Private ownership and living on the land encourage land stewardship. Sustainable development practices need to be incorporated into the planning process. How do we accomplish this without adding to an already burdensome set of government regulations that slows development? The best way is to incorporate best practices into a ministerial process. At every meeting I have stressed the importance of water storage for fire protection and conserving this important resource. At the last planning commission meeting I asked that 25,000 gallons of water storage or more be required for all TPZ residences, not as a mitigation but as a property improvement. At the October 23, 2007 supervisors meeting I asked the board to incorporate environmental best practices into the ministerial permit application, Supervisor Geist asked planning staff to incorporate my suggestions into the drafting of the ordinance. This can work, in Santa Cruz we successfully argued to get green building projects given priority status and a reduction in application fees. There is a way to encourage environmental protection while streamlining the development process. Through community dialogue and smart planning we can have a future for our children.

  54. Josh Hedlund
    December 3, 2007 at 9:47 am

    What is interesting about the SPAWN lawsuit was that both sides agreed on the best practices but disagreed on the process. Now that lawsuit has been decided, you can read it at:


    SPAWN is now developing a project using the same scientists and a very similar group of technologies as were used on my home design. You can read at their website:


    SPAWN is currently working to complete the purchase of four parcels located along stream habitats and an adjacent parcel with an old house, where the organization hopes to create a “demonstration center” model with a state of the art septic system and other “salmon-friendly” designs including rainwater catchments system, permeable driveway and native plant landscaping and to offer workshops to Valley residents on implementing similar conservation measures at their homes.

    My home design in Marin was well planned to protect the environment so that it could be enjoyed by my family. You can read more about it at :


    The Marin County planning staff called it a “model project” and Supervisor Adams commented that the mitigation measures approved by the Planning Commission might actually improve the current environmental conditions on the property with respect to decreasing sedimentation and runoff.

    The following are excerpts from the filed application that show the level of detail that was put into the design of this environmentally friendly home:

    This project will comply with all applicable County standards for nutrients, sediments, and pathogens. It includes a Riparian Corridor Protection and Enhancement Plan, and directs specific project compliance on a wide range of conditions, including no direct runoff through application of infiltration technology, timing of construction, creek protection and enhancement, native plant species restoration, house activity area orientation, elimination of exterior lighting, use of environmentally superior construction materials, etc.

    Click to access item-21-WalderAppeal-RES.pdf

  55. Josh Hedlund
    December 3, 2007 at 9:48 am

    My home design in Marin was well planned to protect the environment so that it could be enjoyed by my family. You can read more about it at :


    The Marin County planning staff called it a “model project” and Supervisor Adams commented that the mitigation measures approved by the Planning Commission might actually improve the current environmental conditions on the property with respect to decreasing sedimentation and runoff.

    The following are excerpts from the filed application that show the level of detail that was put into the design of this environmentally friendly home:

    This project will comply with all applicable County standards for nutrients, sediments, and pathogens. It includes a Riparian Corridor Protection and Enhancement Plan, and directs specific project compliance on a wide range of conditions, including no direct runoff through application of infiltration technology, timing of construction, creek protection and enhancement, native plant species restoration, house activity area orientation, elimination of exterior lighting, use of environmentally superior construction materials, etc.

    Click to access item-21-WalderAppeal-RES.pdf

  56. Josh Hedlund
    December 3, 2007 at 9:49 am

    I have worked hard to incorporate green business practices and sustainable technology into my life. I actively encourage all of my clients to do the same. All of the companies that I have worked for in Humboldt County comply with every rule and regulation, and any land that is sold is governed by contractual agreements that ensure environmental protection.

  57. Truthiness
    December 3, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    Sleuth, no one has paid me and you have shown your true colors. You obviously have an axe to grind. Don’t all of us have a right to our opinions? Are we now living in a facist state where you are guilty without a trial and no one is allowed to disagree?

    You keep talking about victims — where are they? Are you a victim of Hedlund? If so, do tell. But if not, I agree it is unfair to throw around such serious accusations about anyone.

    At least Hedlund posted his phone number and we know his name. He doesn’t seem to have much to hide. Who is the Sleuth? I

  58. Anonymous
    December 3, 2007 at 4:14 pm

    Josh Hedlund said:

    “Conservation groups are now encouraging working forests, I expect that soon residential development will become a component of forest protection. Private ownership and living on the land encourage land stewardship. Sustainable development practices need to be incorporated into the planning process. How do we accomplish this without adding to an already burdensome set of government regulations that slows development? The best way is to incorporate best practices into a ministerial process.”

    State law, DFG, CDF, and all ecologists acknowledge that residential activity degrades the first two on the list of state-recognized compatible uses with timber management: watersheds, water quality and habitat. Traffic, domestic animals, septics, chemicals, vehicles all degrade.

    State law also states that TPZ land should be valued as timber land, not real estate, or else no one could afford TPZ for timber.

    There is no popular mandate to speed up development, Josh, although you stand to make lots of money as you fragment TPZ/habitat for profits, while masquerading behind green buzz words that reflect a self-centered, greedy, perspective. Your flagrant violation of regulations you consider burdensome represents an unfair business practice to gain advantages over those who do respect our laws.

  59. Anonynmous
    December 3, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    John Doe 86 said:
    “I strongly hope that the county will adopt two sets of TPZ regulations, one for industrial and another for non-industrial ownerships. Small landowners should not have to be in the same boat as PL and Green Diamond.”

    That’s exactly what the county staff proposed, as directed by the Supervisors. Unfortunately, an awful lot of people aren’t thinking for themselves, and are just believing the fear-mongering that the timber companies (esp. Barnum) are whipping up. Read the county documents, people!

  60. Armchair Detective
    December 3, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Ah the joys of google…
    Remember hearing that the DEA was busting growers in Redwood Creek and Willow Creek this summer?

    Two arrested when code enforcement turns to pot bust
    Times-Standard 07/28/2007

    Humboldt County Sheriff deputies backing up Code Enforcement investigators took over the case Thursday when marijuana was found on property off Bair Road in Redwood Valley. The Humboldt County Sheriff’s Department said Lindsey Rose Arnold, 24, and Haven Albion Kozak, 30, were immediately arrested and more than 1,200 pot plants were found. The plants range in size from 1 inch to 3 feet.
    Officers also seized $2,500 in cash and two all-terrain vehicles. Bureau of Land Management personnel and California Department of Fish and Game wardens assisted in the case. Fish and Game Warden Jackie Krug said the department is more frequently seeing environmental crimes associated with illegal pot grows. In this case, she said, 10 culverts were installed without permits, and a road was graded down a steep slope to a stream, which will cause significant erosion this winter. There were also two illegal water diversions, Krug said. ”It’s all, of course, being done without permits … because the nature of what they’re doing is illegal,” Krug said. Kozak and Arnold were booked into the Humboldt County Jail on suspicion of marijuana cultivation.

    [Kozak was one of the people that Hedlund filed a building permit for–it’s on the papers the county posted for that agenda item, and on those papers his address is the same as Schectman’s]

    (from T-S, 5-07)
    The whole place is considered an Area of Critical Environmental Concern, and is enveloped within the Redwood National Park protection zone set up by the legislation that authorized the expansion of the park in 1978.

    Then there’s this:
    United States of America v. Approximately $276,449.90 in Funds Seized From Joshua Hedlund

    Case Number:
    December 21, 2006

    12 charged in raid of pot, guns, cash
    Henry K. Lee
    Saturday, May 13, 2006

    Twelve men face federal drug charges stemming from a Berkeley raid that netted 5,800 marijuana plants, a dozen weapons and $220,000 in cash. The March 15 seizure at 809 Allston Way was the largest haul of marijuana Berkeley police have made in years and led to searches of homes in Oakland, Castro Valley, Antioch and Brentwood. The federal Drug Enforcement Administration has since joined the case.
    The defendants are Brian O’Leary, Jonathan Ford, Scott Burghardt, Andrew Brainerd, Rory MacDougall, Derek O’Day, Jeffery Ford Jr., Todd Tisue, Joshua Hedlund, Brent Tageson, Reed Olson and Rick Knott.

  61. Headland
    December 4, 2007 at 1:41 pm

    so much for Mr. Natural

  62. gulo gordo
    December 4, 2007 at 10:48 pm

    The Force is strong with this one.
    Too bad it’s the Dark Side.

  63. the #1 Kim
    December 19, 2007 at 10:58 pm

    It’s interesting that there are so many “anonymous” or vague names posting negative comments, and the person defending himself is so forthcoming and willing to provide accurate information on the accusations presented. How about the people that were “busted” taking responsibility for the position that they put themselves in, instead of blaming the “dark force”? As an outsider looking in, it seems to me that some of the people posting angry comments must have personal qualms with Mr. Hedlund that they are not bringing to light… As far as developing goes, it’s funny that people that live on developed land think that their land is OK, but no more!!! Not in my backyard, where somebody probably complained when my house was being built, too.
    And diid you know that it’s legal for the government to seize money solely for the sake of involvement, not even suspiscion, or intent to convict? Sounds crazy, but they can give it back if, after analyzing the situation they confirm that the funds are legal. Just something to think about.

  64. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Knowing Hedlund a little more personally I know of one particular LLC that is also used -BD Resource Management, they take US Postal money orders and tranfer funds from one LLC to another as sales. I also know who his right-hand man is when he goes to prison.

  65. mr.knowitall
    February 7, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Josh is a eco-ego manic liar and asshole. I hope he has fun in jail and thinks about how eco-friendly his pot growing has been. I feel for all whom have been screwed over by his bad business ethic and hope they can rebound and prevail. Thanks Josh for blowing up the dope game even more than ever and fucking it up for all the mom and pop true chill local people. Just because you grew up here dosen’t mean shit. You still have to uphold the same rules of the game and don’t shit where you eat or fuck behind your wives back. Rot in hell asshole

  66. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Testify and amen to that brother!

  67. Josh Hedlund
    February 8, 2008 at 1:10 am

    I accept sole responsibilty for the mistakes that I have made. My plea agreement is not sealed and is available from the courthouse. There is so much misinformation and slander on these blogs that I won’t even begin to address it. I just hope that anyone who reads or posts will think about how they would feel if the blog was about them. Any complaints can be made to me directly at joshhedlund@yahoo.com.

  68. Truthiness
    February 8, 2008 at 7:55 am

    I don’t know who knew what or who grew what, but I am surprised that there are so many bad vibes here towards someone accused of growing. What has the world come to?

    What makes someone a “chill local person”? Poverty? Mr. Know it all you sound bitter and jealous. You don’t sound like a chill local person.


  69. Lloyd
    February 8, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Truthiness, I’ve walked the streets with Tad. I know Tad. Tad is a friend of mine. Truthiness, you’re no Tad.

  70. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 8, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Now, now, now everybody! “Can’t we just all get along?” Can’t we just all be at “Peace”, as Truthiness says!? Maybe we all just need to be a little bit more like The #1 Kim and rise to Josh’s defense. After all, Josh is just trying to defend himself in a “forthcoming” and “accurate” manor, right?

    Think again!

    Josh is neither forthcoming nor accurate. And only the fool, and the well paid defend him. Josh, you know better than anyone what you’ve done, the lives you’ve ruined, the money and property you’ve stolen. And you thought you were sooo smart, sooo cool, sooo hip, sooo slick. Well think again, GUY! Blinded by greed and pride, your transgressions have now been exposed, and it’s time to pay the piper! I can only imagine how stupid and puny you must feel right now, knowing what you’ve done, and what you now face. You must be terrified, distraught.

    The only people I feel sorry for are your family. How selfish of you to put your own two innocent children and their mother in danger because of all your shady dealings! What kind of a man are you!? It seems as though your parents neglected to teach you the Golden Rule: “Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.” But it’s not fair to attack your poor parents. God knows they’ve suffered enough because of their son’s horrible and selfish actions. I’m sure they did their best to raise you well, but when they tried to teach you the Golden Rule, it must have gone in one ear and out the other.

    Before I proceed, I must first acknowledge Mr. Knowitall, and The Intrepid Sleuth. Knowitall, you don’t sound “bitter” or “jealous” at all, as Truthiness would have all of us believe. You’re just operating from the rational idea that if, “it it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. And to Sleuth, any sensible person knows that being a good speller is no excuse for being a liar, and a narcissist.

    Kim: I agree with you that people should take responsibility for their actions, and not blame others for their misfortunes. However, when someone like Josh lies and manipulates young, naive, optimistic and hopeful entrepreneurs into thinking that he’s their friend, and wants to help them make money, one can not overlook the plain and simple fact that it’s Josh, who for so long dodged responsibility and risk, and put others in harm’s way while he hid behind the Wizard’s curtain hoarding profits, who is largely to blame. Sure, no one forced those kids into taking part in his schemes, but you can not overlook the fact that Josh is a conniving bastard who has clearly ignored Yoda’s teachings, and crossed over to the Dark Side, trading his integrity and SOUL for Earthly riches. Besides, for the last two years Josh has avoided taking responsibility for anything, and it is only now, after he’s realized that it’s to his benefit to “take responsibility” (aka cooperate with the feds so he doesn’t get totally screwed), that he has decided to do so. And if you really expect any of us to believe you’re “an outsider, looking in”, an objective voice as it were, well then…perhaps you should consider renaming yourself, #2, or #3, or better yet, “The Last Kim.” Just answer me one thing: How much did Josh pay you to say what you said? As for “personal qualms with Mr. Hedlund”, of course this is personal! When someone smiles and sweet talks you to your face over wine and dinner-date deals, then threatens your well being and livelihood before stabbing you in the back, it can’t be anything but personal.

    Truthiness: your very name blasphemes the word, the idea, the meaning of all that is TRUE. You and I both know that the “bad vibes” towards Josh aren’t about him being a grower at all, so quit trying to divert the argument with your strawman reasoning. The “bad vibes” are clearly because of Josh’s gross dishonesty, his blatant betrayals, and his nauseating hypocrisy, especially regarding his supposed environmental righteousness, his greenness, and his sustainability. The only thing Josh seeks to “sustain” is his own scrawny little, pretty-boy ass. Didn’t George Dubyah once refer to himself as a “steward of the land”, much like little Joshy-poo has? I don’t know Truthiness, “what has the world come to?” When cowards like Josh get away with so much, for so long, it makes ya wonder, doesn’t it?! But I must say, the world is still a pretty good place if a “craven dog” like Josh has finally lost his bone, and the animal control has at long last caged this sickly little canine bitch, who’s bark is undoubtedly much bigger than his bite.

    Speaking of bitches, I suppose it’s time to throw this desperate little tramp a few table scraps. I know it’s not right to feed a dog that begs beside the dinner table, but come on, prison food probably isn’t all that tasty.

    Josh: You brought this on yourself, GUY! You can lie to yourself, but you can’t lie to us. I mean come on, guy, who do you think you’re fooling with your pre-cooked, pre-packaged, single serving, ‘poor me’ defense. We know all this blogging is driving you insane. But do you really think anyone is going to contact you directly? Trying to divert these criticisms out of the public eye where they are exposed to open discussion and debate, and into your ever shrinking private little world where you can try to play the victim behind closed doors, and bullshit your way out of this mess, if only to a handful of gullible listeners, is nothing more than one of your feeble attempts at being the little control freak that you are. Besides, if you sincerely wish to take full responsibility for your mistakes, as you claim you do, then why don’t you openly enumerate ALL your mistakes, and not just the ones for which you’re being charged. And if you truly wish to right your wrongs, then why not pay restitution to all those you’ve wronged throughout the years with your crooked dealings, real estate scams, and strong-arm robberies.

    The players are cast, the curtain is up, the orchestra is playing, and the stage is lit. It’s show time!

    So how will this tragicomedy end, you might ask? How will the plot unfold from here? And what will we, the audience, take away from this performance? Have we finally seen the last of the Vilica Villain? I’m afraid it’s still too early to tell.

    This we do know: there will be no fine dinning at chic’ restaurants when Josh does go to prison. Gone will be the peppery Zins, the jammy Pinots, the fashion shows, designer clothes, and trendy gossip magazines. There is no shade grown coffee, no organic cotton garments, or pretty women to sneak around with and cheat on your children’s mother once Josh is locked behind the brick and barbed-wired walls. Josh will HAVE to shit where he eats. And all he can do is pray that he doesn’t drop the soap.

    But look on the bright side Josh. Paying the AB for protection (with the last of your stolen money) shouldn’t be too hard since you already think you’re superior to everyone else.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, please let me close by echoing Knowitall’s hope that all the people Josh has deceived and screwed over, do in fact, “rebound and prevail.” If Porfiry Petrovich has done his job, then this little “rascal” will be exposed for the dirty little rat that he is.

    Until next time… .

    Farewell, PP

  71. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Don’t hold back PP, tell us how you really feel.

  72. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 9, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Well, ya know, had a few extra minutes on my hands, so I figured I’d make a brief statement.


  73. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 10, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Theo, I must agree with Beowolf. Your posts are laughable! Who are you dude!? What are you thinking!?

    I realize now that you are either too dumb, or too cowardly, to ever have a rational debate, about anything, ever!

    What is the point of arguing when your words are meaningless!? Theo!

    So, just for the record everybody, this is what Theo thinks, according to his own words:

    If you grow pot, you should not only accept the fact that you will be robbed, but imbrace the idea as well. When you do get robbed, you shouldn’t complain, or think it’s wrong that someone robbed you, or want the theives to ever confess their wrong doings and return to you what’s your’s! NO! That would actualy make sense, that would be the MORALLY RIGHT way to think, feel, and the right thing for those theives to do!

    Instead, think like Theo (hey, that has a nice ring to it)…Suck it up, forget how much time, money, energy, and risk you invested, and just go buy some more lights and clones with all the money and pot the thieves TOOK! Then happily replant. Who knows, you might even be lucky enough to get robbed again.

    Theo, you’re done dude! It’s like they say, “When you’re in a hole, stop digging!”

    But, if you’re going to respond again, please, I BEG YOU give me, and the rest of us something good to chew on, let us taste it. No more of your 0 calorie diet drinks. They really taste bad, GUY!

    By the way, seeing as your the head of the Federal Speller’s Violation Unit, spell check this for me, will you, man!?

    Always the last word, PP

    Porfiry Petrovich Says:
    February 10, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    And Rose, should The Freedom Riders have not expected justice for the horrible beatings they incured, just because what they were doing was illegal?

    Don’t you agree that it is morally right to break a law, if that law is unjust. Marijuana prohibition is morally reprehensible. Therefore, it is right to grow, and wrong to steal. Stealing is stealing. Bottom line. Your argument is non sequitor.

    Anon, just because they don’t print the Bible on hemp anymore, doesn’t mean God’s prohibition against stealing has evaporated! Got it!?

    I can’t believe all you silly little monkeys on here!? Ever hear of something called, ‘critical thinking’?


  74. Truthiness
    February 11, 2008 at 6:09 am

    PP, it is clear from your post that you have “personal business” with Hedlund. Sour grapes? He has apparently pled guilty to and forfeited land and money — what more do you want? Why keep up with the hate? Everyone knows that Karma is a bitch so you don’t need to be one.

  75. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 6:32 am

    Truthiness seems to have “personal business” of another nature. Why is it only posting about Hedlund? hmmmm

  76. Truthiness
    February 11, 2008 at 7:41 am

    Isn’t that what we are talking about?

  77. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 7:43 am

    There are other threads you haven’t posted on Truthiness. Why such a focused interest on Hedlund?

  78. Truthiness
    February 11, 2008 at 7:48 am

    Is there something specific you are seeking my opinion on, Anonymous One?

  79. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 7:49 am

    Hardly, Truthiness. Just pointing out that you obviously have a stake in this case.

  80. Truthiness
    February 11, 2008 at 7:53 am

    So anyone that doesn’t jump on the vicious gossip bandwagon and asks people to chill has a stake in this case?
    What’s in that for me? For anyone?

  81. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 11, 2008 at 5:09 pm


    You are fooling NO ONE, pal! All you dumb-ass suckers on here just don’t get it, do you!? I hate to stoop so low as to be profane, but posts the like of Truthiness are so fowl, so filthy, so fecal, that I feel forced to.

    Here’s the deal everybody:

    First off, I don’t “hate” Josh, as Truthiness would have you all believe. Quite the contrary, I love him as my fellow man. I do in fact pity him, and am disgusted by his actions, but I do not hate him. I’m trying to encourage him to come forward, admit his wrongs, and do the right thing.

    Secondly, just because Josh forfeited land and money doesn’t mean he’s come clean about all the other wrongs he’s guilty of! Don’t you get it, dude!? This guy has fucked over so many people it’s not even funny! Shady land and real estate deals, strong arm robberies of grow opps., and threatening peoples lives if they don’t do what he wants! Yeah, that’s right! Ask him about his blatantly open threats of “picking people off with a scoped rifle! Think that’s something people should know about!? The fact of the matter is, and in plain language for all you morons out there: Josh Hedlund is a dirty little fucking shit bag punk-ass lying, stealing bitch mother fucker! OK!? And all you dumb ass, pussy coward kook bitch fucks are defending him! WHY? Is he paying you? Sucking your dick? What?!

    Thirdly, Karma is a part of a Hindu belief system, and not what you dumb-assess think of it as! Read a survey of religion 101 text and get it straight, guy! Karma does not work in the way of, if you do something bad, something bad will happen to you. OK!? Astrology is also fake!

    Fourth, I have no personal business with Josh, other than I strongly believe all people have a moral responsibility to speak out against injustices perpetrated by one individual against another. Apparently Truthiness and others do not share this belief, and are only concerned with protecting Hedlund, and calling me a “bitch”. Can’t you do better than that!? I’m actually laughing as I type this b/c your arguments are so absurd! And, why, as ANON points out, do you have such a profound interest in Josh? Perhaps it is you who has “personal business” with Hedlund. Is he your gay lover? That’s OK if he is, I just wanna know why you protect him. Please explain.

    “What’s in it for you?” You tell us!

    As for everyone else (or “anyone”) as you proclaim…people have a right to know who Josh is and what he does. We are protecting innocent, uniformed people from being duped by the fraud that is Josh Hedlund.

    Do you understand now, Truthiness, or do I need to explain it again!?

    If you are any kind of man, or have any integrity you will answer the charges put against you, and stop dodging the truth with weak avoidance tactics. Again, you’re not fooling anyone!


    Yours for the cause of TRUTH and JUSTICE, PP

  82. Truthiness
    February 12, 2008 at 8:26 am

    I understand perfectly now. You are insane.

  83. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 12, 2008 at 6:33 pm


    Someone makes a rational argument and they are labeled insane? Hummm? You disagree with someone, so they must be crazy!? You’re too much of a coward, punk-ass bitch, looser that can’t think, can’t answer a simple question, and I’m the crazy one!? Is this the best you’ve got dude!?

    Just think about how this looks…

    People read what I say, then they check your response and think, hummmm, Truthiness must ride the short bus, beacause he obvioulsy can’t respond with ANYTHING decent!

    I’m afraid you don’t understand anything!

    Can you cook for yourself, bath yourself, feed yourself, wipe your own ass, hold your little dick when you pee!?

    From the likes of your response you can’t think to even speak a meaningful word!

    ~ PP strikes again!

  84. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    Truthie-boy, are you still on here, still spewing the same dumb-ass shit!? Charging others with repeating themselves, while being guilty of the same crime yourself!? You crack me up dude! Can’t you see, the game is up! You’re wrong! You’ve lost the debate. Just admit it, give up, go home and do some rape roll play with Josh so he can get ready for prison life!

    It should go without saying, but apparently some of you ding-dongs still need it spelled out for you!

    1.) We all have a right to post, anonymously, or not if we so choose! So please let that one go. You sound like a broken record! Besides, you’re posting anonymously! Ever hear the word, hypocrite!?

    *And I’m amazed that we must continue to explain the issue of stealing and it’s inherent wrongness!

    So ROSE, TRUTHINESS, and all you other kooks, please listen up!

    2.) Stealing is wrong. Got it!? No ROSE, it’s not funny at all when pot growers get robbed, just like it wasn’t funny when Hitler burned books because they were ILLEGAL! Just like it wasn’t funny when women and blacks couldn’t vote. Just like it wouldn’t be funny if someone broke into your house and stole your pirated copies of dvd chick movies. Those pirate copies are illegal aren’t they? But stealing is stealing. OK!? Do you get it now!? Geez!

    3.) THEO: Just because one takes precautions against thieves, and accepts the fact that they might be robbed, IN NO WAY MEANS THAT STEALING IS OK, OR THAT ONE SHOULD ACCEPT IT AS SUCH!

    *Theo – answer this: do you know Josh, if so, what is your relationship to him, and why are you so obviously defending him!? Come clean if you have any balls at all!

    Before we can put this silly mess to rest, I want to hear Truthiness and Rose admit the TRUTH, that stealing is wrong no matter what and thieves should be exposed and pressured to right their wrongs and change their ways. The health and well being of our society depends on your admission and support! Please, in the name of all that is right, join us!

    Porfiry Petrovich will not rest, nor will I let fools have the last word. I will keep attacking you cowards until you clearly admit that any kind of stealing is wrong.

    Now’s your chance, what’s it gonna be?

    ~ PP

    “With out God, anything is possible”

    ~ Fyodor Dostoyevsky

  85. Ben Hedlund
    February 12, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Wow! After reading all of these posts, I’m reminded of the stagnant, ignorant and often insane state of mind that affects so many people in Northern California. I am Josh’s brother, I more than anyone know my brother and his antics. I know that he can be can be a total prick, a cunning business person, a loving father, a caring brother. The bottom line is he is an easy target. I don’t think anyone should pity my brother, I know he doesn’t need their pity. If the conversation is about tpz lands, then all should understand the processes of the williamson act, and the role the county has played in making legal land development illegal by delaying the processing of filed documents. From what I see, the comments on this blog represent two different factions, those who have a fundamental problem with people making money, and people who have been rubbed raw by my brothers personality. Either way, the disrespect that has been shown to my parents and my brothers family is not warranted. Whatever shortcomings my brother has in regards to his family are not unique and definitely not criminal. It’s easy to sit on your computer and preach, but judgment is far from productive. One comment on the few factual comments above, being cited for putting in culverts on tpz land with no permit, may or may not be legally sound, but give me a break! All road work that my BROTHER did was done at or beyond the level expected from Fish and Wildlife, and usually performed by operators with years of experience in road rehabilitation work for Federal projects. I don’t believe that any land owner should be punished for maintaining/stewarding the lands that they hold. Don’t compare my brother to Hurwitz, or some big evil corporation. My brother always has an ear for people that have legitimate concerns over the environment. He has provided ways to contact him. Follow his lead and rather than complaining about the state of the world. FIND SOLUTIONS!

  86. February 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    i clearly admit that the theft of porfiry’s pot is becoming a bit amusing…..

  87. Beowulf
    February 12, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Ben, glad to see you acknowledge Josh can be a total prick, but please don’t confuse cunning with a complete lack of ethics. It is not cunning to grow massive amounts of cannabis in a wharehouse under the supposition that others will take the fall when it gets busted. And it was just plain arrogant and stupid to continue on with his nefarious work while already facing charges for the Berkeley debacle. I am also glad to hear that Josh is a loving father and caring brother. Too bad his loving and caring don’t extend beyond his immediate family. Furthermore, I don’t think anyone blames your parents or brother’s family for his misdeeds. As I am sure you know unpermited culvert installations are the least of Josh’s mistakes. As for contacting him, what is the point? Josh has never shown any inclination to do the right thing unless he is forced to. The onus rests soley with him to make restitution for his wrongs and find SOLUTIONS.

  88. Truthiness
    February 13, 2008 at 5:30 am

    Stealing is wrong.

  89. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 13, 2008 at 11:08 am


    I too wish to acknowledge that your brother is a good father and caring brother, though there has been some question surrounding his fidelity to the mother of his children. That, however, is not my concern, nor is it, quite frankly, any of my business.

    However, as Beo said, questions around supposed drainage violations are the least of Josh’s concerns. We are more concerned with his blatant lack of ethics in business dealings. I certainly don’t oppose people making money, and I’m happy for people who are financialy successful. But money must be made ethicaly, honestly, fairly, not through coersion or theft, of which your brother, Josh, is guilty of both. FACT!

    I mean no disrepect to you or your parents, and have even said so in my earlier posts. In fact, I can only imagine how heart breaking it must be to have a son who’s facing such a daunting future. My prayers go out to you, your parents, and Josh’s children and their mother.

    Let us not over look the fact, however, that Josh has brought these misfortunes on himself because of his arrogance and pride. He thought himself invincable, put others at risk while he collected profit, made foolish and reckless decisions, and finaly got caught. And yet he has still to come forward and admit all his wrong doings. When, if ever, will he do so? Perhaps you, as his brother, can persuade him to do the right thing. Start by asking him about the charges made against him by people on this blog: the dishonest real estate dealings (price gouging on houses with undisclosed foundation damage), strong-armed robberies he’s orchestrated, the manipulation of others, and the threats he’s made to other people’s lives!

    As for “following his lead”, I wouldn’t advise anyone to model their behavior, their lives after Josh!

    Lastly, the only reason Josh is asking people to contact him directly is so he can divert public criticisms into the private realm, where he can more easily distort the truth. If Josh was truly concerned with doing the right thing, he would come forward publicly, admit his wrong doings, offer restitutions, and ask for forgiveness. What better forum than the blog!? With a few key strokes Josh could let everyone know how sorry he is, that he realizes what he did was wrong, and that he wishes to right things with those he’s betrayed. That he’s not done this already is further testimony to the fact that he doesn’t really care about other people, doesn’t want to admit his wrongs, and could care less about making things right with others. His only interest (aside from the wellbeing of his family) is self preservation.

    Thank you for posting, Ben. I hope your younger brother Paul is doing well.

    Best to you and your family during this difficult time.

    Sincerely, PP

  90. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 13, 2008 at 11:10 am


    I told you already, PP isn’t a grower, really, he’s not, he’s not been robbed of anything, at all.

    The only thing that’s funny are some of the absurd posts on this thread :-)

    Good humored, PP

  91. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 13, 2008 at 11:13 am


    Thank you for finally admiting that stealing is wrong.

    Was that so hard to do?

    Good boy, Truthi. Reward yourself with another bong rip :-)

    ~ PP is on the case!

  92. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 13, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Theo, Truthi:

    Both of you have yet to answer all the detective’s questions.

    The light is on, the tape is rollin’, PP waits to hear who and what you know, what you think, and what you plan to do about it.

    Please come forward with your testimony, gentlemen.

    ~ Patiently, PP

  93. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 15, 2008 at 11:54 am


    PP wishes to acknowledge an error he made in one of his recent blogs concerning a comment he made about Ben’s “younger brother Paul.” PP was wrong about this, as Ben has no younger brother Paul. PP confused Ben with someone else.


    Please accept my apologies.

    Thanks to those who caught this error and brought it to me attention.

    ~ PP

  94. gulo gordo
    February 15, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    so is Ben still out of the country — and why did he leave?

    and is he still Josh’s business partner, as he apparently was when Hedlund and Hedlund was the thing?

    from what I know of Ben, it’s far from clear he’d be one’s first choice as a character reference.

    there does seem to be more to this saga than has come out so far. Keep digging, PP.

  95. Beowulf
    February 15, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    quit teasing us gulo, any more details on the above?

  96. Kite Downed by Lonetree
    February 16, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    Hey, did anybody hear about the massive bust in Mendocino?

    You can read about it in the Press Democrat or the Ukiah Daily Journal.

    This just in: Josh Lonetree Hedlund’s buddy and family friend, Kite Finds the Feather (you can’t make up names like that), got popped with 270+ lights, 100lbs, and a 350KW and 400KW generators!!! Holy shit, that’s phat! Hummm… . It’s really strange that Josh JUST made his plea bargin at the begining of Feb., and then low and behold a couple weeks later his friend (or should I say business partner?) gets busted. Hummmmm….I wonder if the property was controlled by an LLC set up by Josh… . Josh is the Anti-Midas, anything he touches turns to SHIT!

    Watch for upcoming busts in Mendo. and Hum. Cos. as Josh frantically tries to save his scrawny little, pretty-boy ass at any cost.

    Looks like the Lonetree has contracted Sudden Oak Death Disease. Hope it doesn’t spread too far.

    Stay tuned folks, this mess ain’t over yet!

  97. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 16, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Wow! How could we miss this!?

    Maybe Theo narced em off. Hehe… . You are a cop, right Theo? Oh no, that’s right, I forgot, Theo is in the Speller’s Violation Unit. The feds took Theo off pot busts when they caught him fraternizing with a grower over bong hits during a bust.

    Glad I’m not a grower living in Mendo or Hum right now.

    Do you see now Theo, Truthi? This is why we need to expose people the likes of Josh.

    Let the light of truth shine down on all thieves and swinderlers!

    ~ PP

  98. February 16, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Is Lonetree his middle name or is it another LLC?

  99. Beowulf
    February 17, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Over on the Press Democrat comments on the article section is this:
    Finds a Feather=Mend Mate
    Anybody know if that is true? I think Mendo Mate is a drinks company from Mendocino County; they have a building off 101 in Redwood Valley north of Ukiah and a funky website.

  100. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 17, 2008 at 3:09 am

    Lonetree sounds like a great name for an LLC to me! As a middle name…? I guess it could work.

    Funky websites, yerba mate, !? We need to MEND all things!

    Do you agree!?

    I think I need some tea!

    ~ PP

  101. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 17, 2008 at 3:38 am

    “Rancid rat shit, Batman! This is just as bad as all the diesel spills and improperly disposed of genie oil!”

    Batman rubs his chin and looks on in silence…

    “What’s become of Gotham, Batman!?”

    “I don’t know Robin, I just don’t know.”

    “Do you think Josh might be behind all this, Batman?”

    “Anything is possible, Robin.”

    “Anything, Batman!?”

    “Anything, Robin.”

  102. gmf
    February 18, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Josh and his brother are products of Humbodlt County. We should all be proud.

  103. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm


    So anyone from Humbolt turns out like Josh and Ben?

    I don’t think the good residents of Humbolt would appreciate your comment, gmf.

    Sure, there’s a lot of dirty thieves and little liars in Humbolt, but there’s people like that everywhere. Let’s avoid generalizations, guy.

    ~ PP

  104. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 20, 2008 at 11:46 am

    It is important that we keep this critical thread alive with questions, comments, debate.

    Don’t let this Hedlund character off this easy!

    Any news on the Kie bust, any thoughts, speculations!

    PP is concerned for all of us.

  105. Beowulf
    February 20, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    From the Willits News: Mendo Mate representative says Finds The Feather is a “founder” of Mendo Mate Power It drinks company. Wonder if Hedlund is involved with this company? Wonder how Hedlund knows Finds The Feather? It is interesting that Hedlund has not made any denials about his involvement in the Finds The Feather bust. A Mendocino Sheriff’s deputy says it was one of the largest grows he as ever seen. Wow! The hubris is astounding but familiar. I wonder where have I seen that before? I wonder why Hedlund was granted such a long time period between his plea (early Feb.) and sentencing (mid March)? Inquiring minds want to know!

  106. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 20, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    “This really is starting to look more and more like Penguin’s sinister work, Batman.”

    “I know Robin, I know.”

    “If Josh is cooperating with the feds to reduce his sentence, it would only make sense they’d give him time between his plea and sentencing to turn over FInds the Feather, Batman.”

    “Good work Robin. But one thing still puzzles me.”

    “What’s that Batman!?”

    “If Josh is behind this whole thing, why no denials about Kite’s bust. Those were pretty harsh accusations, especially for someone as concerned with his reputation as Josh is!”

    “Right again Batman, right again!”

    Batman and Robin head back to the Batcave for more research.

    Guess we’ll have to tune in next time… .

  107. Rose
    February 20, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    Catch the Emerald Triangle in the Mendo Mate logo, Batman?

  108. Beowulf
    February 20, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Oops. I was incorrect when I wrote that Josh has until March to be sentenced, he has until MAY 6! I doubt that is standard procedure. Sure was nice of them to give Joshee-pooh all that time to, ahem, “put his affairs in order.” Yea Rose, that is a nice logo and web site, very incognito. I wonder which Judge will have Finds The Feather on his docket?

  109. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 20, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Marvelous Mendo Mate, Rose! I DIDN’T notice the Lex Lutherian Kryptonite Green Triangle on the Mendo Mate logo, until now!

    Nice eye, Rose, nice eye!

    Yeah, super incognito logo and website, eh Beo!? :-)

    “Batman, can you believe Gotham Court is giving Joshee-pooh SO MUCH time before being sentenced!? This whole thing smells of big bags of bat dung!”

    “I wish I could disagree with you Robin, but I’m afraid I can’t, I’m afraid I just can’t.”

    “Maybe they’re just giving Josh time to celebrate Easter with Penguin and Joker, eh Batman!?”

    “I wouldn’t put money on it Robin.”

    We can only wait and see how this whole fiasco works out!

    ~ PP

  110. Anonymous
    February 20, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    Poorfiry is in love with the sound of his own keyboard.

  111. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 21, 2008 at 9:53 am

    Anonymous (2/20/08, 11:57):

    After spilling coffee on my old one, I was forced to purchase a new keyboard for my old G4, and I rather like the feel and function of it. However, it’s pretty quiet actualy and doesn’t make much sound at all.

    You could say however, that I AM in love with the writen word, the art of writing, the joy of thinking, the challenge and rush of debate, and the thrill of knowledge and learning new things.

    You my friend, need to court the mistress of spelling. It’s Porfiry, guy.

    Were is Theo: Head of the Speller’s Violation Unit when you need him!?

    ~ PP keeps on keepin’ on :-)

  112. Anonymous
    February 21, 2008 at 9:57 am

    And you should look up the spelling of “sensible” since you misspelled it repeatedly.

  113. Anonymous
    February 21, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Poorfiry was being playful with your name.

  114. Anonymous
    February 21, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Your use of the Dostoevsky character’s name is egotistical, your ramblings nonsensical and contradictory and you bore me to tears.

  115. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 21, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Anonymous (2/21/08, AM):

    Strange thing is, I can spell check from my computer at home, but not at work. Not too tech savy. By my own admission, I’m a terrible speller.

    I feel a little silly that I didn’t catch the joke on my name. Oh well. Good one, laddie, or are you a lassie? :-)

    I chose Porfiry out of my love for the great Dostoevsky, not because of any claims of holding myself up to his brilliant writing. Such a comparison would be utterly foolish, to say the least. I’m glad someone finally got the reference though.

    If my “ramblings” as you call them, are so “nonsensical” and “contradictory” why do you even bother reading them, especialy if my words “bore you to tears”?

    If your intention was to insult me, to hurt me, you’ve failed, and only made me laugh, only led me to pity you for how bitter and shallow you seem.

    If you really want to get me going, attack my arguments. What about my blogs do you REALLY object too? My comments on abortion? Or are you one of Josh’s few remaining “friends”? Please do answer these questions my mysterious one.

    ~ PP

    p.s. do you think I’m guilty of excessive use of commas?

    p.s.s. would you mind spell checking this for me? I’m late for my Dostoevsky Fan Club Meeting.

  116. Truthiness
    February 22, 2008 at 1:36 pm


    Get a life!

  117. "Henchman of Justice"
    February 22, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    For ALL uninformed American Citizens,

    Please take a look at this! Freedom to fascism

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  118. Anonymous
    February 22, 2008 at 7:51 pm


    I’m crushed by your insults! I’m sitting with a knife at my wrists, wondering why I even go on! I have no life! Can you help me get one? What do you do to be so cool, so hip, to have so much of a life?

    I’m a teacher and I hate it! I get paid to help kids learn and figure out what they wanna do with their lives’. My family and friends love me and I live in a beautiful area, am healthy, have a wonderful girlfriend…MY LIFE SUCKS and I hate myself.

    Help me Truthiness, Please!

    Still defending Josh, guy?


    ~ PP laughs at Truthiness’ transparency

  119. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 22, 2008 at 7:57 pm


    Why don’t you answer the questions you are asked?
    What are you afraid of, what are you hiding?

    Do you know Josh? Yes or no?

    PP and all the rest want to know

    ~ PP

  120. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 23, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    Nothing to say Truthiness?

    “Ahhh, I see we got a smart guy here, eh!? We’ll take ya out ta Miller’s Crossing and find out how smart ya are!”

    ~ PP loves the Cohen Brothers

  121. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 24, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Of “The Villa Mess”, “The Villa Mess Mopped Up”, and “Desperately Seeking Hedlund”, only “The Mess” thread remains on this blog!

    Where have Joshe’s voices gone!?

    Where are you Josh?! What are you doing? What are you saying, who are you talking to?

    Where are all those who are defending Josh!?

    Truthiness, Theo: Come out, come out where ever you are! I want to talk with you! What can you say now you little bitches!?

  122. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 24, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    I mean’t “Josh’s”, my bad.

  123. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 24, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    TheNONme, Truthless!

    I’m calling you cowards out!

    Let’s have a good ol verbal joust, if you’re up for it.

    But please, fight hard, fight well, give me a challenge, not your petty slander (couldn’t resist calling you bitches) :-)

  124. Anonymous
    February 24, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    get a life you misogynistic creep

  125. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 24, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Anonymous, 2/24, 5:52pm:

    I’m guessing the “bitches” comment directed at Truthi and Theo is what led you to accuse me of being a misogynist. Am I right? If I offended you, which certainly wasn’t my intention, I am sincerely sorry. Please accept my apologies. I’d hardly call that coment misogynistic, though. But if you think so… .

    If you read my abortion position I think you’ll realize I’m anything but a misogynist.

    Are you a female friend of Josh?

    Are you Truthi or Theo in disguise?

    You should know by now that petty insults are just going to get me to respond with something thoughtful, if for no other reason than to keep this thread alive.

    What is your interest in Hedlund?

    ~ PP

  126. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 24, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    Can never piss PP off, no matter how hard you try, he’ll never loose his cool, especially to tools!

    Anonymous: Do you have a life? Maybe you could tell me why it is you think I don’t have one, and where I can get one, if you care to help your fellow man. :-)

  127. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 25, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Clickin’, typin’, just to keep this thread up!

  128. February 25, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Do you have any idea what Hedlund is up to now?

  129. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 26, 2008 at 2:21 am


    Unfortunately I don’t know what Hedlund is up to, which is, I would imagine, also unfortunate for all those Hedlund is connnected to.

    It seems everyone is being strangely quiet about this whole affair.

    Thanks for inquiring though, and keeping this thread alive, as I think it’s an important one for the whole the community.

    Best, PP

  130. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 26, 2008 at 2:23 am

    “whole community” I meant, minus the extra “the” :-)

  131. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 26, 2008 at 2:25 am

    I do wonder though why Josh’s supporters aren’t coming out stronger. Or why he’s not speaking out directly.

    Why so quiet Josh?

    What deal did you try to swindle this time?

  132. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 26, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Sew this thread, and sowe the seeds of information spread.

  133. Beowulf
    February 26, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Maybe Josh is consulting with Jeffrey Lytle to prepare a defense based upon the idea that there is no income tax. I can see it now: “your honor the 16th amendment was never ratified,” laughter erupts in the courtroom.

  134. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 26, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Beo cracks me up! Good one Beo, good one!

    Josh: who does do your taxes?

    Maybe Josh and Jeff can also try to persuade the judge that all American citizens can stop paying taxes on anything, and let all the cash and land sales Josh forfited go to paying our taxes. Now that’s an idea, eh, guy!? :-)

  135. February 26, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    That’s what I;ve been sayin’ – if you want tax reform, legalize pot – none of those growers are going to want to fork over 50% of their income, not when they have been used to making millions tax free.

    You want reform of the permitting and ordinance process? These guys are not going to want to comply with handicapped laws, with CEQA with water quality – they haven’t shown any willingness to do it as it is – wait til they have to pay for all this.

    Wait til they have to file paperwork on all the ‘trimmers’ – pay all the employee related insurances and health care –

    It’s going to be a real show.

  136. Beowulf
    February 26, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    I hear you Rose but must disagree. Look what happend when prohibition ended.

  137. February 26, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    So you think they will bow their heads and give up their lawbreaking ways? Why would they when it will cost them millions?

    If Hedlund gave up a million plus six million in property. imagine his income – and that of all the subsidiaries… that’d be a minimum of what? 30% feds, 12% state, then there’d be social security, he’d probably trigger the alternative minimum tax… then there’s be the additional costs of hiring employees, there’d be insurance, there’d be all those pesky regulations – like bringing that warehouse up to standards and codes, air filters, etc, etc, not to mention the handicapped accessible laws…

    You’re talking about a HUGE amount of money – and when you figure they were willing to break the law in the first place for far less – I don’t see it.

    You think the IRS is bad now? Imagine having to arm them to get the drug dealers’ taxes paid.

    All the pot dealers’ll have to get together and form legal PACs to influence politicians, no more brown bags outside campaign fundraisers – and they’ll have to form corporations to protect their personal assets just like all the other businesses, AND THEN, they’ll trigger Measure T on their sorry heads, something they wanted and got…

    AND the price’ll plummet on top of all that -oooohhh man….

    it’s gonna be a show.

  138. Beowulf
    February 26, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    Rose, of course some people will break any law and/or ethical code if they stand to make a buck by doing it. All I am saying is that if pot were legal the pot business would be run like any other legal business. Would some people involved in the pot business switch to selling cocaine or other criminal enterprises? Probably, but that is besides the point.

  139. February 26, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    No. I’m asking will they WILLINGLY hand over millions of dollars just because with the stroke of a pen they are now legal operators? Or will they fight it? Will they refuse? Will they cheat? Will they risk jail for not paying?

    Of course they will, they’re already cheating, they’re ALREADY risking jail – what will be the difference?

    Maybe some of the growers can come on and say “Yes, I will give up 3 million to the government I hate in exchange for becoming ‘legal,'”

    Best get your accountant’s license. There’ll be a big need for accountants.

    And on another thread “Jane” is telling me all about those “independent contractors” the bud trimmers who get $100-$300 per pound TAX-FREE as a side job… are they going to pay taxes now? And Social Security – remember, “independent contractors” pay full bore, usually your employer pays half, right?

    Who’s gonna pay their health insurance? Worker’s comp? What about all those ‘carpal tunnel’ claims?

    And if they get paid in free weed, how’s that gonna be calculated? Because that’s gonna count as additional wages, I’ll bet.

    Break out the popcorn.

  140. February 26, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    New slogan for ya – LEGALIZATION – be careful what you ask for.

  141. anonymous
    February 26, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Rose, seriously, it’s time your mind made an appearance again.

  142. mendonews
    February 28, 2008 at 1:49 am

    legalize reefer and create a Medical Marijuana Fuel Charge! Use the tax at a County llevel for Eel River cleanup and MONEY FOR HUMBOLDTS BROKE ASS SCHOOLS! PUT AN END TO IRAQI BLACK MARKET HUMBOLDT HIGH SULFER DEISEL!

  143. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 28, 2008 at 8:59 am

    Anybody hear what Hedlund’s up to now!?

    Rumor has it he’s hosting an invitation only real estate seminar at Baywood on March 6th. I wonder what the topic will be…? Hummm…? Any special guests?

    This information is not confirmed but a little birdie told me the other day.

    If anyone has any additional info about this please come forward.

    ~ PP

  144. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 28, 2008 at 9:05 am

    I know, Josh could talk about business ethics, environmental sustainability, cohersion, and robbery!

  145. Anonymous
    February 28, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Correction: March 7th.

    Step right up, get your popcorn and soda pop and enjoy the show!

  146. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 28, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Attention ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt your regularly scheduled broadcast to bring you this breaking news!

    Hedlund’s real estate seminar, scheduled for March 7th, 2008 at Baywood Country Club outside of Arcata, CA has been CANCELLED (tears, sighs of sadness).

    Below is an email correspondence between Josh Hedlund and a Mr. Michael Patrick Durkee. Though Josh doesn’t directly refer to himself by name, Mr. Durkee does.

    The email begins with Josh addressing a general email audience with news of the seminar being cancelled.

    [Josh]: “From what I am told Durkee is a good speaker, well worth hearing – and he has chosen to cancel his appearance:

    Cancellation of Patent Parcels on Resource Lands: A Landowners Perspective

    I am sorry to inform you that the event is cancelled. Unfortunately, the presenter and his law firm are concerned about being associated with me. They have agreed to do an event in the future that is unrelated to me and is on a different date. Again I am very sorry that mistakes that I have made in my personal life have interfered with my ability to host what would have been a great presentation. Below is the attached email from Mike Durkee:”

    [Mr. Durkee]: “Josh you are persistent, which is no doubt why you have done well in business!

    Your attendance is not the problem. To be blunt, because you deserve candor, the firm is rightfully concerned about the association of its name (through me) with what is clearly your Map Act/Resource Lands event, regardless of any last-minute name or sponsor changes.

    So, if a new program is set up in the future with a clearly new
    sponsor, etc. , I would be happy to teach it up in Humboldt and happy to have you in attendance.

    Josh, you seem like a great guy and not one I am trying to hurt. No doubt you have been through a lot, and have more still to go through. But the answer from my managing partner and also from my General Counsel could not be more clear: I cannot teach the class on the 7th


    Michael Patrick Durkee
    Allen Matkins Leck Gamble Mallory & Natsis LLP”

    [end of email]

    This information sheds new light on the whole Hedlund matter in that it increases the legitimacy and boosts the credibility of Josh’s critics, and further discredits those who have tried, rather weakly I might add, to defend Josh. The fact that Mr. Durkee and his firm are “rightfully concerned” about being associated with Josh, and have decided to cancel speaking at an event that is simply being hosted by Josh, says a lot. Though Mr. Durkee does explain specific reasons for his concerns, it is clear that he and his firm do not want to be “associated” with Josh and his presentation. Are Mr. Durkee and his firm concerned about being affiliated with Josh because of his guilty plea for large scale marijuana cultivation, questions about his environmental record, business ethics, accusations of having orchestrated strong-armed robberies of massive grow-ops…? All of the above? What else might Mr. Durkee know about Josh that we do not? We can infer from his comments that Mr. Durkee does not know Josh personally, and that Josh has at least made a good impression on Mr. Durkee.

    To Josh and his supporters:

    Please use this as an opportunity to come forward and tell the truth about who Josh really is, what he has and has not done, if he is remorseful, and if he has any intention or plan of righting his wrongs with people. Josh: What mistakes have you made in your personal life? What specifically do you regret? Please tell us! Going to prison is going to be hard enough, so why not at least try to make good with as many people as possible? I’m encouraging you to do the right thing here, as difficult as it may be, and try and turn your reputation around, regain some of your integrity. What else do you have to loose!? Put aside your ego, your pride and try to learn from these experiences, from your mistakes so you may become a better person in the future.

    Thank you to the person who forwarded me the email used in this comment.


  147. Beowulf
    February 29, 2008 at 12:20 am

    I wonder if Kite Finds The Feather will be invited to attend Joshee Pooh’s event. Is the whole event cancelled or just Durkee’s appearance? I was looking forward to attending; I had hoped to ask Josh for his insights into how to unsuccesfully hide assets with shell LLCs while running environmentaly damaging criminal conspiracies! I wanted to learn techniques for swindling senior citizens and for maintaining friendly relations with the IRS! Alas! Maybe he will host another event that I could attend in the future

  148. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 29, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Beo you crack me up! A good laugh is always a great way to start the day.

    From what I understand the whole event is cancelled, though I’m not absolutely certain. Maybe it’ll just be Josh trashing the golf course at Baywood. If Josh is lucky, Kite will be driving the golf cart this time :-)

    ~ PP

  149. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 29, 2008 at 2:21 pm


    My objective in posting duplicate comments on multiple threads re: the Hedlund matter is because I strongly believe it is important to keep the Hedlund scandal alive and kicking with questions and debate. Josh Hedlund has hurt a lot of people, and is a danger to our community. It is therefore important for as many people to know what he’s up to at all times, especialy since he very well may be attempting to drag others down with him as he scrambles to save his sinking repuation. I’m also trying to push Josh and his supporters to come forward with the truth, and stop hiding like little cowards.

    Best Intentions, PP

  150. Anonymous
    March 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Huh, guy!?

  151. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 4, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Anon? Is that you again!? Are you against apologies too?

    If you’ve got something to say just come out with it.

    ~ PP

  152. Josh Hedlund
    March 5, 2008 at 8:14 am

    If you want to get the facts right, all my documents are available online: pacer.psc.uscourts.gov
    I have never, nor will I ever, trade others for a lighter sentence. I don’t allow people to confide in me about their illegal doings, alleged or otherwise. I chose not to have information about others. I have given up a significant amount of money and land. The government is still recommending a long sentence.

    Both DEA and Humboldt County officials acknowledge that they monitor these blogs, but they get paid to do so. So who is it that posts all this misinformation?

    I have still not received a single email or phone call from you who slander and defame. My email is joshhedlund@yahoo.com and my phone number is 415-850-7118. If you have an issue call me.

    Blog administrator, you know who is posting. Please keep them to one thread and one pseudonym.

  153. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 5, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    Shame shame Josh! I thought we were gonna keep the blogs to one thread!? You are unbelievable, guy! Are you that blatant of a hypocrite, too!?

    May Josh never cease to amaze us.

    ~ PP

    “Blog administrator, you know who is posting. Please keep them to one thread and one pseudonym.”

    – words of the great Josh Lonetree Hedlund

  154. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 7, 2008 at 8:59 am

    Nothing more to say Josh?

    Why so quiet?

  155. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 16, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    It’s been a while since we’ve heard from you Joshee-poo…

    What are you up to now you little devil you!? :-)

    ~ PP

  156. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 22, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Here’s another chance for you to come forward Josh.

    “What cha gonna do, when ya well runs dry, I’d like to know, what cha gonna do, I’d like to know, when you’re feelin’ blue..so tell me tell me.!”

    ~Tosh (R.I.P)

  157. foggyblue
    March 24, 2008 at 11:58 am

    hi all. this is my first contribution to your blog. i found your blog by googling “josh hedlund” because i had never heard of him before. i have just received an email ostensibly written by him that was forwarded to me and many other people living in southern humboldt by one of the realtors that originally received the email.

    i’m especially curious about the following statement from the email:

    “I have seen the CEU [Code Enforcement Unit] in action for the last year as they have visited every parcel I sold in Northern Humboldt County. The fines that they assess are rather arbitrary: $8,000 for a road, $12,000 for a building flat, $16,000 for a greenhouse, $32,000 for a structure. They follow up with punitive letters threatening $10,000 dollar a day fines per violation, I have yet to see an action with less than two violations.”

    i’m interested in hearing if anyone knows more about these CEU violations.

    here’s the full text of the email, minus the email addresses of those who received it:

    ——————- Original Message —————–
    Subject: HUM CPR Meeting in SOhum
    From: “Josh Hedlund”
    Date: Wed, March 19, 2008 11:14 pm
    To: [long list email addresses for humboldt county realtors] —————————————————————–

    If you are attending tonight will you read or convey this to the attendees:

    According to Dan Toronto, this year is the twentieth anniversary of the County Code Enforcement Unit being dissolved in Humboldt County. Twenty years ago, the citizens of Humboldt County responded to the heavy handed tactics of the Code Enforcement Unit and forced County Government to codify solutions and disband the CEU. The Alternative Owner Builder Ordinance, affectionally called the “cabin code” by county officials, was put in place in order to streamline the
    permit process for the approximately 73% of rural structures built without permits. The Code Enforcement Unit of today is acting in a similar way to what stirred up the public twenty years ago. I have seen the CEU in action for the last year
    as they have visited every parcel I sold in Northern Humboldt County. The fines that they assess are rather arbitrary: $8,000 for a road, $12,000 for a building flat, $16,000 for a greenhouse, $32,000 for a structure. They follow up with punitive letters threatening $10,000 dollar a day fines per violation, I have yet to see an action with less than two
    violations. The CEU has a shoot first question later attitude. Unfortunately, even when flats and roads are pre-existing, you get a fine. I have read multiple search warrant affidavits where the training and experience of the Code Enforcement Unit is described. They have a background in police and tactical training. I have heard rumors that Jeff Conner, the head of the unit, has some experience with forestry but I have not verified this. We, as taxpayers, should require that the Code Enforcement Unit be trained in building code inspection, grading regulations, and fire safety. I have spoken with Jeff Conner and he has agreed to speak at an event put on by HUM CPR ,the Board of Realtors, or another community group. Dan Toronto, who helped author the AOB ordinance, has agreed to speak at the same event about the history of the politics that led to the AOB ordinance and the disbanding of the CEU. I urge all of you in the
    community to reach out to the members of the Code Enforcement Unit and require them to answer our questions. I am available to help with funding or coordination of such an event.

    Josh Hedlund

  158. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 24, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    I’m so glad Josh is reaching out to the community like the good citizen he is and rallying them to “require the CEU to answer our questions”. I guess I’m glad. Actually I don’t know much about the CEU, but suppose I should find out some info on them like any good detective would. All in good time Watson.

    But what I’m really curious about at this point is how Josh is “able to help with funding or coordination of such an event.” I mean, didn’t Joshee-poo recently turn over a bunch of cash and land?! Didn’t he then get busted with another $100K?! Hasn’t he been spending loads of money on lawyers and legal fees?! Since Josh is a very upright business man who only engages in legal and ethical forms of money making he can’t be that rich, can he?

    It just seems a little strange to me that after all the trouble Josh has been through he still has money. Did the feds give you a little kick down for everything they got in the Kite bust Josh? Do you have a money tree in your back yard? Are you even gonna go to prison at all or did the feds just drop everything and put you on their payroll since they’ve seen how many people you’re connected with, what a big mouth you’ve got, and how cowardly you are in rolling over on anyone to try and save your own ass. Must feel really good to be you Josh.

    What say you dear Joshee-poo!? What say you!?

    ~ PP

  159. Beowulf
    March 24, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Josh you should no more “urge” community members to do anything than a tick on an elephants testicle should invite that elephant to dinner. That CEU visited every parcel you sold should have come as no surprise to you considering that you were then and are now hotter than a rat in Satan’s sewer. Of course you knew your situation when you sold properties and urged others to grow on them, didn’t you? Josh “don’t worry there is no code enforcement in Humboldt” Hedlund you continue with your charade oblivous to the fact that you are and will remain a paraih for the rest of your sad life. Why don’t you do the community a favor and crawl back into the foul cesspoul from whence you came?

  160. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 25, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    The guys gotta point Josh… . I mean, you’re not fooling anyone. And when I say anyone, I mean anyone. Everyone knows what you’ve done in the past, knows what you’re up to now, and knows what a dirty little rat you are. Do you live inside a cave, ignorant to the reality around you? Hello!? Is anybody in there!? Your dirty laundry, your dirty tricks, your crimes, your scams, your snitching on people…it’s all out in full sun for all to see, guy! Don’t you get it!? The game is up! You’re not fooling anyone anymore. Why just today I heard from a very reliable source that Rose has decided not to meet with you because there are “too many warning signs.” That Rose won’t even meet with you to talk with you says a lot, poor ol chap! :-) (Roger that’s for you). When are you gonna realize that the sooner you just come clean, suck it up and take it like a real man, and admit to all the shitty things you’ve done, that some people might someday begin to trust, or at the very least tolerate you? At this point you’re just digging yourself deeper and deeper into a dark, dank, lonely little hole from which you will never escape!

    Do you have any friends left, aside from your immediate family? Does anyone believe you’re a good person, and that you’re just a victim of slander?

    Why do you still try to cover our eyes with lies?

    ~ PP can’t understand!

  161. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 27, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    That is a very, very, very (and let me just add one more, “very”) good question!

    Did I mention the word, “very”?

  162. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 28, 2008 at 1:34 am

    previous entry a mistake…responding to a posting on the other hedlund thread. my bad.

  163. PP
    March 30, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    check out ” des. seeking hed.!”

    There’s a great spewer on that thread who thinks he’s a smart guy, and a tough guy!

  164. Josh Hedlund
    March 30, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    I still am available at 415-850-7118 or joshhedlund@yahoo.com. Beowulf or pp, why don’t you contact me? It would be great to hear what your true issues are. What motivates you? Josh

  165. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 30, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    You are unbelievable, Josh!

    ~ No one is gonna call you!

    ~ You don’t care about anyone but yourself so why would you want us to call you anyway? Why would you continue to lie to us “It would be great to hear what your true issues are.” Humbug! You don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone but Josh!

    Our motivation?

    PP’s Official Statement:

    “We, the community, the good citizens of this great and beautiful state of California are morally obligated to spread the TRUTH about what a horrible and dangerous person Josh Lonetree Hedlund is so that not another person is hurt by his actions or words.”

  166. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 31, 2008 at 1:29 am


    Not that grammar matters all that much , and certainly not at this point, but your message should read a little more like…

    … “I’m still available at…” (the phone number). It’s just less awkward, that’s all.

    just an fyi, brau :-)

    ~ PP (detective and grammarian who can’t spell) ;-)

    Good luck, bro, you’ll need it!

  167. interesting and so on
    March 31, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    This PP person is a psycho, are you stalking Josh Hedlund? Looking at this blog and the other one about Josh it looks like you are a stalker….this is probably the highlight of your life!

  168. Beowulf
    March 31, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Mr. Uninteresting how does your post address the issue of Josh’s parasitic nature, his wrongdoings and the community’s right to know?

  169. snarf
    March 31, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    keep on venting those spleens!

    ….eventually you’re bound to get all that bile out…

  170. Beowulf
    March 31, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    I’ll keep on denouncing Josh as long as people like you are making lame attempts to divert attention from Josh’s wrongdoings.

  171. snarf
    March 31, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    i wasn’t taking sides or trying to divert attention from the crimes of the evil josh hedlund, who i had never even heard of before reading this thread and the other one. i see the spleen-venting as coming from both sides. and by all means i’m not going to get in the way of this cyberbrawl. so have at it!

  172. Beowulf
    April 1, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Thanks snarf, peace.

  173. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 1, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Dear “interesting and so on”:

    Last time I had my head checked the doc said I was OK. :-)

    How is it again that reporting other’s misdeeds that seriously threaten our community’s safety and well being can in anyway be considered “stalking”?

    I’d like to think I have a full and rich life actually, work I enjoy, great family and friends… , so I’m not following you there. I just think it’s important for all people to speak out against dangerous people, especially when they threaten our community. Do you agree? Or should we just let these people continue to do what they’re doing and leave them alone? Say nothing?

    “When the Nazis came for the Jews I said nothing because I wasn’t Jewish”

    ~ PP

  174. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 3, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Why so quiet now Josh?

    Cat got your tongue?

  175. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 8, 2008 at 12:43 am

    Dear Josh:

    Is 5/16/08 your actual sentencing date? I figured who better to ask than you.

    Will you ever answer to all the charges and accusations towards you on these threads, PUBLICLY, or will you just slink away into the shadows, silently, turn against everything just, and become a full time employee for the feds snitching off all the people you know? What’ll it be you dirty little rat?

    How can you live with yourself!?

    ~PP in disbelief!

  176. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 9, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    “Seeking Hedlund” is gone from “Today’s Most Read”, and “The Mess” is number 10!

    “Damn it Jim!”

    I can’t wait to see what starts popping up as we get closer to Josh’s sentencing. You are still going to be sentenced, right Josh ;-)

  177. White Hawk
    April 10, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    You know, PP, the internet is a wonderful thing that allows for two amazing abilities. It is a place where you can a) complain about issues you feel are relevant, and b) where you can retain your anonymity. Put those together and you have a strange and marvelous world where you can gripe and bitch about whatever, and whoever, you want – without a care or worry in the world (unless, of course, you start offending the wrong people, but that’s neither here nor there).

    It takes someone of character to decide to cast off the cloak of anonymity in such a dangerous arena, especially when that person is being attacked by enemies he himself can not identify.

    Perhaps Mr. Hedlund has made some poor choices (like coming onto this forum himself, imagining that people would respect such a move instead of cruelly turning such honesty against him), and perhaps he is not a shining beacon of all that is good in this world. The simple fact of the matter is that he has come to you and your mob, arms open, palms out, and asked that if you have any questions or complaints, to discuss them with him. A more honest or respectable act I can’t think of.

    So before you continue with your accusations – whether they’re baseless or not – get off your high horse, step off your marble pedestal, and either accept that you’re just a punk making snide remarks from behind your mother’s dress. But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you’re someone who truly does care for truth and the community he lives in. If so, I think the first step to the truth would be to actually speak to the man you’re throwing stones at, and proceed from there.

  178. April 10, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Vilica LLC, Paradise Palms LLC – what about those cases? Will there be any prosecution? Any investigation by the DA (I doubt it) or the Feds?

  179. let you know later
    April 10, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    Dear white hawk:
    a shining beacon of all that is good in this world?–far from it, try a shining beacon of that is evil, greedy, cheating,lying, manipulating, and backstabbing in this world.
    Do yo know anything about this boy, because he certainly is not a man. Why do you attack PP for speaking the truth?
    Arms open and palms out, and why doesn’t he talk to him, take it from me all joshee poo will do is deny and make up stories–then he would threaten you in ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

    So please brown pigeon understand who you are defending and stop trying to take attention away from the real issue here.

  180. White Hawk
    April 10, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Mr. Later (PP, probably.),

    First of all, please quote me completely. “Perhaps he is NOT a shining beacon of all that is good in this world.” I never said that he was a good guy – hell, I didn’t even say he wasn’t guilty of everything you believe he’s done. You missed my point entirely.

    My point was that someone who will threaten and coerce you is not the type of person to give you his contact information in order to facilitate discussion. You may have ideas about what the discussion may become – and you might be right – but until you do speak with him, all you’re doing is making up stories about what you think might happen.

    It’s a rare opportunity to actually speak to the parties involved when it comes to these kinds of problems – take advantage of it or at least stick to the facts and quit making snide remarks and hurtful comments. You may be a much better man than him, but until you raise yourself above the muck, you’re no better than he is.

    Also, I’m going to just assume this is you, PP, as you’re the only person to call him Joshee-Poo. If you want to disguise your appearance, I suggest a better disguise.

  181. let you know later
    April 10, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    look, I’m not PP and have spoke to joshee poo many times and I am in contact with someone that still talks to him. joshee poo will be surprised at that. I know how he is and we are pretty sure about what he is planning.

  182. White Hawk
    April 10, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    If he is plotting nefarious schemes, why not share them here? For the good of the community, of course.

  183. Beowulf
    April 11, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    White Squawk I really appreciate your contribution to the discussion, albeit strong on flowery hyperbole and weak on reasoned argument. You wrote: “I never said that he was a good guy – hell, I didn’t even say he wasn’t guilty of everything you believe he’s done.” Thanks for that bashful admission White Squawk. So in your own way you acknowledge Josh is guilty as charged; but you say that anonymous posters should not tell the world about Josh’s crimes while you, an anonymous poster, defend him. Your argument is illogical-why don’t you just say no one should post anonymously? You say you think “PP” is “let you know latter” because they both use the term Joshee poo? That is quite a leap. Maybe you are Josh? Furthermore, you wrote: “it takes someone of character to decide to cast off the cloak of anonymity in such a dangerous arena, especially when that person is being attacked by enemies he himself can not identify.” Wrong. Josh has no character and his posts only display a pitiful attempt to deceive the public at a large by pretending to welcome dialogue with those he has wronged. If he wants to identify his enemies he need only make a list of all those he has committed crimes against (although that would probably take a month or two). I will gladly give Josh a call after he declares on this blog that he has been a lair, a thief, a defrauder and snitch. I doubt he will though–that would take character and an ability to take responsibility for one’s own actions, two things Josh does not have.

  184. White Hawk
    April 11, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    These name games are so fun! Mocking names – a good part of a balanced argument.

    “So in your own way you acknowledge Josh is guilty as charged” No. Will people kindly stop putting words in my mouth? I’m saying I don’t know. I don’t know! He might be. He might NOT be. I don’t know. But my common sense suggests that if I was as interested in the subject as you appear to be, and about him, and about what’s going on, you’d want all the facts, and if any more information was offered to you, you’d take it and at least examine it. I know if I had an issue with someone, and that person tried to get me to speak with them, the right thing to do would be to talk to them – at least before I started angry tirades.

    Had the internet really turned us into this? Why is it ok to make snide comments and remarks to someone (especially when it’s clear he’ll read them), but it’s somehow crazy and weird to talk to that person?

    I’m beginning to think maybe you people have spoken to him. Maybe you know him. Maybe he’s screwed you over personally. I don’t know. But the way you’ve latched onto his ankle like this, refusing to even speak with the guy, I can’t help but wonder if maybe there’s something more personal to this. In which case I think your strongest argument would be detailing what that situation was, not making snide anonymous comments on a website.

    You people seem to think I’m either Josh himself or Josh’s PR department, but in case I haven’t made it abundantly clear, I’m neither a Josh-lover or a Josh-hater. I don’t know enough about the man to make that decision. But name-calling and annoying one liners from some members of your camp don’t seem to be tipping the scales in your favor.

  185. Beowulf
    April 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    White Squawk, I call you that because it is appropriate: every point you have raised has been amply discussed numerous times in the threads that pertain to Hedlund on this blog and on the Watchpaul blog. Please read those threads before you raise issues that have already been addressed; i.e. read before you squawk.

  186. let you know later
    April 13, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    This nefarious scheme is actually for the good of the community–its not out of the question that joshee poo will be speaking Spanish or maybe Dutch in the near future, depending on his sentence.

  187. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 17, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Greetings Everyone:

    I miss not being on this thread as much these days. Not that any of you lost any sleep over it, but please forgive me for not staying more current and responding as frequently as I should, or would like to. All that’s about to change :-)

    I know White Squawk is crushed that I’ve not yet responded to his absurd arguments. I hope he actually thinks he’s scared PP away, because when I make some more time I’m going to go back over all the current posts and put up something worth reading. :-) Actually, it’s not time that I’ve failed to manage, it’s technology. Curious? I’ll stop there. We all know PP has a tendency to ramble sometimes.

    But just a few quick points…


    1.) Clearly you haven’t read the posts in this thread.

    2.) You do “sound” like you could be Josh. It just seems a little fishy, that’s all. Besides, who does Josh have left that would defend him? Oh, but that’s right, you’re neither a “Josh hater or Josh lover”, then what, little wretched bird, is YOUR interest in the Hedlund matter? What is your angle?

    3.) As for your arguments, though it’s already been pointed out, and your words pretty much speak for themselves, I figured it couldn’t hurt to remind you that YOU CAN’T DEBATE WITH ANY SKILL WHAT SO EVER! Your logic is grossly flawed, and sometimes you don’t even make sense.

    4.) This thread IS for the benefit of the community. There is no limit to what Josh is capable of, especially if he does end up having to learn a new language. Figuring out how to make money, much less just a living in a new place, like a foreign country for example, can be tough, so there’s no telling what someone like Josh might resort to. Just something to think about.

    5.) More on your absurd ideas and arguments regarding anonymity, courage, speaking directly to Josh, etc., to come later.

    *For now, please go back and review this thread so you’re better prepared when PP returns for a longer discussion.

    “May 16th is just around the corner, Batman!”

    “I know Robin, I know. That’s what’s got me so worried these days. Hedlund is no Joker, but I wouldn’t put it past him to try something the likes of Penguin’s dirty tricks.”

    “Holy high phosphorus bat dug, Batman, now I see what you’re getting at! WhiteHawk, Penguin, they’re both birds. And we both know how much birds like to shit on people!”

    “I wasn’t gonna put it quite like that, Robin, but I gotta hand it to you, you’re smarter than I thought. Nice work, nice work.”


    ~PP for the love of it.

  188. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 28, 2008 at 1:12 am

    I had something all typed up last night, got distracted and accidently deleted it all. So frustrating! Just wanting to keep this thread alive at this point. Too tired to rewrite the whole thing again tonight. But couldn’t resist making a few quick comments…

    May 16th is approaching! What’s is going to happen to Josh on that day? So curious to find out!

    White Squwak: why so quiet these days? I’m so tempted to respond to all your posts at great length, but your logic, or lack there of makes me doubt whether it’d even be worth trying to have a dialogue with you. So, just a few basic points:

    1.) It is an undisputed fact that Josh Lonetee Hedlund is a thief, liar, extortionist, conman, egomaniac, environmental protectionst fake, and very likely a snitch. Josh is a danger to the world community. This is why this thread is so important. FACT!

    2.) Posting anonymously on-line is ethical and legal. You yourself do it, yet criticize others. Hummm… . Can we say hypocrite? Furthermore, each individual has a right to say what ever he or she thinks. We call this freedom of speech in our country.

    3.) Threatening violent or hostile acts, or even implying such threats against people (which you have done to me on this thread, albeit in an indirect, but pretty obvious and stupid way) is an illegal and immoral act. FACT.

    So please little Squwaker, think before you speak, don’t threaten people, get the facts straight, and get yourself together. Please bring something valuable to the table, or kindly close your beak.

    Take care little birdy.

    ~ PP

  189. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 30, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    17 days away Joshee-poo!

    What cha gonna do mon!?

  190. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 30, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Dear Joshua Lonetree Hedlund:


    Sincerely, PP

  191. joshee poo
    April 30, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    I stole PP’s pot and screwed his girlfriend too!!!!

  192. Beowulf
    April 30, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Got your toothbrush packed Joshee Poo? And maybe a fake passport or two? Let the count down to show time begin!

  193. May 3, 2008 at 1:09 am

    why did you rat out kite finds the feather josh?

  194. Beowulf
    May 3, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    This most recent postponement of Joshee poo’s sentencing should erase any doubt (if there was any) about his snitch status. His new sentencing date is 6-20-08 but don’t be surprised if that gets changed.

  195. power it!
    May 4, 2008 at 10:22 am

    josh, do you feel bad for kite and his family? you have destroyed them. have some cheese!

  196. Beowulf
    May 4, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    Is MendoMate still going? Is MendoMate now controlled by Josh? Anybody know?

  197. Anonymous
    May 5, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    what about all the other peoples lives that josh has destroyed by not giving them all the info that they needed? I feel sorry for Kite and his family but they are part of a long list of people that josh has fucked over.

  198. Beowulf
    May 6, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    I pretty much agree with your post anon. Could you be any more specific on the “not giving them the info they needed” part of your comment? If you should be unable to I would understand. Funny how Josh is silent now. Anybody know what he is up to currently? Is CPR still letting Josh associate himself with them? Does he still have a stake in the Schmook Ranch?

  199. lol
    May 8, 2008 at 11:03 am

    josh is having some cheese and crackers at the moment.

  200. lol
    May 8, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    word is , kite missed his court date and ran like a jack rabbit!

  201. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 9, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Josh’s sentencing date got postponed, again!? No way!? Gee…I wonder if he’s working for the feds…? Ya think!?

    This type of thing is in the fed’s nature, using people as snitches. But it just baffles me that one man (if Josh can even be called a man) would go so far to save his own ass! At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if the feds eventually just let Josh off all together, and put him on the payroll as their permanent Nor-Cal Narc Boy!

    And no word what so ever from Josh or his dwindling supporters. Funny how that is… .

    Poor Kite… . Can’t really blame the guy for runnin’.

    To all the people who have been harmed buy Josh’s betrayals:

    I send you my deepest condolences for what you’ve endured. May you recover from the wrong that has been done to you.

    ~ PP

  202. Anonymous
    May 11, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    if Kite ran then josh doesn’t have anyone to testify against, unless he has another victim in mind.

  203. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 11, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Good point Anon. 5/11, 4:10!

    Who will the next victim be!? Surely there will be another.

    Josh! Will you ever quit your evil ways?! When will you realize enough is enough, enough lives have been ruined because of you!

  204. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 14, 2008 at 11:04 am

    All quiet on the western front?

  205. let you know later
    May 15, 2008 at 4:12 pm


  206. Anonymous
    May 15, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    You snorted one too many, my friend.

  207. May 15, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    the more busts that occur, the higher the price will go…that is if you believe in supply and demand….

    of course more busts will occur, the price is getting too low….

  208. Beowulf
    May 15, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    I believe supply and demand will function regardless of wether you believe in them or not, Theo (just kidding). Anyway could the deleted post be restated in such a way that it would not be deleted?

  209. Anonymous
    May 15, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Change your name to Nord and Bert, my friend. You are toasted.

  210. Beowulf
    May 15, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Oh no, anonymous, you sound like one of those dreaded internet tough guys. Whatcha gonna do hit me with an exclamation point? Would Theotherme be Nord or Bert? By the way I’m not your friend Josh.

  211. May 15, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    funny how growers turned from mom and pop farmers to mafia type hitmen in less than 20 years…………this thread is a perfect example of why people dont like growers anymore…

  212. Anonymous
    May 16, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Beowulf doesn’t know the Nord and Bert reference. You just mocked yourself.

  213. Beowulf
    May 16, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    You’re right, I can’t make head nor tail of Nord and Bert!

  214. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 16, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    I am also interested in knowing if “let you know’s” post could be restated.

    PP stays off for a day or two and the internet tough guys, anons, and speculations about prices abound! What is happening!?

    Who are Nord and Bert? Pray tell!

    Let’s try an stay away from the generalizations, “Theo”. Things have changed in 20yrs., no doubt, but I’d argue that more things have actualy stayed the same. There have always been thugs, or mafia, as you prefer to call them involved in criminal activity, growing, distribution, etc. But “growers” DID NOT “turn from mom and pop farmers to mafia type hitmen in less than 20yrs”! There are still a lot of decent, hard working people out there just trying to grow some herb and make a living on their own little piece of land, live the American Dream, the old ideal of the American West. What has happened is this. Some people, not mentioning any names Josh, have become obsessed by greed and money and have traded others for their own benefit, robbed others because they themselves are slimy cowards afraid of running their own opps and would rather put others at risk. When that doesn’t work to their liking, they take what is not theirs like spoiled little children in the sandbox!

    Stay focused on what’s really going on, PP

  215. May 18, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Im not saying that there arent any decent, mom & pop growers anymore. Im saying that weed is big business now. way more than 20 years ago. the price is probably back down to what it was in 1988, but the supply and the demand are much greater now.

    now, who did josh ripoff? and who did he trade? do you mean “turn in”? details please!! details, details details…

  216. Anonymous
    May 18, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    patrick and kite

  217. Beowulf
    May 18, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Theo your questions about Josh’s victims have been previously addressed. We who honor truth and fair dealing are all victims of Josh.
    Thanks for the news flash about weed being big business. Your insightful analysis of supply and demand as it relates to the ganja trade makes me think you must be a cannabis dealing economist!

  218. May 19, 2008 at 9:40 am

    patrick and kite were turned in or ripped off? details please….you talk as if you have the info, why not lay all the cards on the table now? or are you speculating?

  219. Beowulf
    May 19, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Theo can’t you come up with anything more original than questions which have already been answered? Maybe you could describe the equilibrium position of the ganja market?

  220. Not A Native
    May 19, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    How is it that ma and pa can be “decent” when they choose an illegal trade, solely because they can command a premium price for an illegal commodity?

    What’s “decent” about putting yourself into an economy based on it’s criminality? How about ma n’ pop brothels, smugglers, fish poachers, or hunters? Sounds more to me like Ma Barker and Papa Doc.

  221. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 19, 2008 at 3:25 pm


    When did weed become big business!? Where have I been!? :-)

    Even if the price of weed has returned to 1988 levels, we’d still have to take into account inflation, average earning potential, supply availability, and increased use before forming any hypothesis about the market as a whole. Where did you get your economics degree from again, Theo? CJU (Cracker Jack University)!?

    The real change in the pot market began less than 20yrs. ago, more like 12yrs. ago with the passage of Prop 215. And even though we’ve seen about a 20-25% decline in price per lb, the price for the smallest units hasn’t changed much. But that’s neither here nor there.

    I desperately await Theo’s dissertation on supply and demand, and the equilibrium position on the ganja market! :-)

    ~ PP just thinking…

  222. May 19, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    now this thread is about economics? how about some details about the ripoffs and the narcoffs? or are you speculating about those?

    i could go on and on about the pot market, but that is beside the point.

  223. Anonymous
    May 19, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Patrick=ripped off, kite=turned in. can’t elaborate and you sound like an idiot.

  224. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 19, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Let us all hope and pray that Theo catches a clue someday, for his own sake, as well as ours.

    A quick rule of thumb: If it sounds like an idiot, it probably is an idiot.

    ~ PP

  225. May 19, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    i was supposed to know about the ripoffs and narcoffs even though ive never met these people?

    who is patrick and what are the details of the ripoff?

  226. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 19, 2008 at 9:17 pm


    When you open a newspaper, listen to the radio, or watch TV and you learn of some type of news or information, any news or information, you are able to understand the nature of said news without knowing any of the persons involved, without having met any of the people, are you not!?

    Blogging is no different. On this thread, as on thousands of other threads, individuals share information. Some of it is true, some of it is not. Follow me so far?

    Re: Josh, several people have come forward and described how Josh has wronged them in some way, either by lying to them, stealing from them, or committing adultery against the mother of his children with them. Others have come forward with specifics re: Josh’s environmental, real estate, land, and business scams. Others still have come forward with information re: his recent legal adventures, delays of sentencing, and news of Josh’s “friends”, or associates being busted for marijuana cultivation while Josh is out free. Starting to make sense yet!?

    Now, what you as a discerning citizen must do is ask yourself, “Are all these people just making this shit up for their own amusement, because they have nothing better to do, or might there actually be some truth to such claims?”

    ~ PP

  227. May 19, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    i assume everyone is making it up, either out of jealousy or fear.

    and still no details of “patrick’s” robbery…..

  228. Anonymous
    May 19, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    theo, you truly are naive, or you must think that everyone else is.

    here’s a detail for you -according to the Alameda County Records, 809 Allston way was sold in 2003 to the Allston LLC (Josh Hedlund). The succesors to the trust are listed as KITE FINDS THE FEATHER AND AMANDA WOOD, both of Mendocino,Ca. The mailing address for the trust is listed as 807 Allston way.

    Do I need to connect the dots for you?

  229. Beowulf
    May 19, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Wow, good info Anonymous.

    Theo: what is your relationship with Josh and what is your motivation in posting?

  230. Beowulf
    May 19, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Things Theo has shared about himself on this blog and watchpaul (paraphrasing):

    1) He is “just asking questions” (which always seem to defend Josh in a round about way)

    2) He owns a theft proof truck

    3) He sometimes works in Southern Humboldt doing “construction”

    4) He says no one “liked Chris Giaque anyway”

    5) He likes to roll play rape with his wife (yes he wrote that)

    6) He is an expert in the supply and demand of cannabis and could go “on and on about it”

    7) He has “never met Josh Hedlund”

    Please feel free to add to the list people.

    In summary Theo is a great ass(et) to the blogesphere and a real hidden Humboldt treasure.

  231. Anonymous
    May 20, 2008 at 2:10 am

    Meanwhile, Beowulf killed Grendel and Grendel’s mother.

    Do I need to connect the dots for you?

  232. Spitfire
    May 20, 2008 at 5:59 am

    Mr. PP I had a horse named Spitfire before skateboards were invented. Perhaps I am part owner of Spitfire Boards! Did you check the county records. It may even be owned by an LLC, which by the way is not a Trust. I wonder who the managing member or members are? Better check Josh Hedlund might be on the list. I think it is suspect don’t you?

    You have yet to give a specific example of how Mr. Hedlund ripped off all these people (at least 80% of Humboldt residents is it?) and ruined their lives.

    Believing all of what you hear is not wise. What did you see?
    What do you actually know of first hand that is the truth?

  233. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 20, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Poor, poor Spitfire. He confuses who wrote what on this thread. Such a shame.

    “A horse named Spitfire before skateboards were invented”? Hummm… . Please tell us old wise Spitfire, when were skateboards invented, exactly?

    Just for the record:

    1.) PP NEVER claimed an LLC was a trust. Check your facts PhlemFire.

    2.) PP NEVER claimed Josh ripped off 80% of Humboldt county. Where’d you get that one, SpitleEmber!?

    Spitefire and Theo need to get together and form a church, whose cornerstone ideology will be: “If we don’t know someone personally, they couldn’t have wronged another, if we didn’t see it it didn’t happen, outta site, outta mind.”

    I could be wrong, but I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that Spitfire and Theo are on Josh’s side. It might go something like this: Per his usual m.o., Josh is too much of a coward to say or do anything for himself, risk anything, come forward at all. Instead, he hides behind the curtain, puppet mastering fools like Spitfire and Theo to do his dirty work for him. The only motive these little kooks could possibly have in requesting information, the “specifics” as they put it about who Josh has wronged is so that they may trick people into revealing who they are, so that Josh can go after them too! Think about it. Why else would they be so hell bent on denying or doubting the charges against Josh, especially after so many different people have come forward with so much information about what, “specifically” Josh has done.

    If you really wanna keep trying to argue, keep trying to trick and deceive me and others, Spit and Theo, go right ahead. Your swiss cheese logic, pufferfish mentality, and dubious claims will always dissolve in the face of reason and goodwill.

    ~ PP

  234. May 20, 2008 at 11:35 am

    im perfectly fine to place blame on people who “wrong” others. lets see the evidence. the fact that someone bought a house in alameda leaves ALOT of connecting the dots to do. lets hear some details…how? how much? when? where?

    and ive never met josh. although, im sure that if i saw a pic, id recognized him. its a small world in sohum.

  235. ?
    May 20, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    its true. kite did sale the warehouse to josh. the investigation actually started in 2003. josh went down. josh ratted kite. kite sold mendo mate to his sister ithica.missed court date. kite and amanda ran. has anyone seen kite in the past month?

  236. ?
    May 20, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    also, the investigation started with the irs.

  237. Anonymous
    May 20, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    theo, you idiot

    809 allston is not a house in Alameda it is the werehouse in Berkeley where joshee poo was growing.

    if you cannot connect the dots then you should exclude yourself from this conversation, or go ask joshee poo what to say, by the way ask him to make ammends.

  238. Anonymous
    May 20, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    dear ?,
    the grow at allston with josh’s partners who were busted started in 2004, what else do you know about the investigation, if you speak on it?

  239. Eurekev
    May 20, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    I was beginning to think this thread was actually a Monty Python skit until the Question Mark provided some clues. Now it seems a little scary.

  240. boring on
    May 21, 2008 at 11:03 am

    EGO central here, most of these people don’t even know Josh or anyone else involved….get a life and move on from this …..i’m here looking to see if there has been a sentencing because I have known Josh over ten years and want to know what is going on…actual reason to be on here, not here for the pissing contest, or get your dick out parade…..

  241. Beowulf
    May 21, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Hey boring, if you know Josh why not give him a call and ask him why his sentencing keeps getting delayed. Then let us all know.

  242. let you know later
    May 21, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    I’ve known josh for over ten years as well and everthing being said about him here is absolutely correct. Everybody needs to know what kind of scumbag joshua lonetree hedlund is.

    kite and josh had a grow at the Allston property before he got involved with the berkeley kids. the LLC was held by the trust.

  243. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 21, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    “everything being said about him [Josh] is absolutely correct.”

    Theo, Spit, others in doubt or bluffing: PP RESTS HIS CASE!

  244. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 21, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Dear boring:

    Whenever a close, long time friend of mine is going through something serious like say, oh, I dunno, a lawsuit, I tend to stay in touch with that person, speak in private with them, and ignore gossip and rumors. The fact that you’re on this thread claiming to be looking for information about Josh’s sentencing makes you highly suspect, if indeed you are a friend of his for ten years.

    PP smells something funny

  245. ?
    May 22, 2008 at 10:04 am

    2004 is when trouble came to be present. 2003 started everything due to the sale of the property. both josh and kite are” heavies” when it comes to real estate. does anyone know how much they owned?? A LOT!!!! also, the place in dos rios was owned by kites dad, who has been living in mexico for a longgggg time now. i dont know anything much about the investigation. i only know that i am caught up in the mix and did nothing wrong or illegal. that is due to a well trusted friend lying to me for a few years now. i lost my business, years and years of hard work, friends,……… because of josh and kite.

  246. May 22, 2008 at 11:01 am

    ?…..what did they lie to you about?

  247. Beowulf
    May 22, 2008 at 11:20 am

    ?, I am sorry to hear you lost so much under such circumstances; sounds like you got burned by people who lack ethics and empathy for their fellow human beings. It is not right, but unfortunately it is a pattern with Josh Hedlund (don’t know too much about Kite) to burn others for his own gain. Thanks for coming forward and sharing a little of your story, I hope others will read this and avoid Josh like the plague he is. I hope Josh suffers ten-fold for the wrong he has done and the pain he has caused others. Stay strong ?.

  248. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 22, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    ? It makes me sad to know your story, but I am glad you shared it. If nothing else, knowledge of your experince may possibly save someone else from being victimized by Josh. May you recover all that you lost, and then some. Hang in there.

    Theo: You are just plain stupid.

    Josh: Your Day of Reconing is Nigh!

    Kite: “When the rain falls, it don’t just fall on one man’s house!”
    -Hon. RNM

  249. ?
    May 22, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    i was involved in a corporation. was lied to about being fully legal and having nothing to to with herbs. if anyone got caught with or having anything to do with drugs or herbs,they were fired. low and behold, the main guy was THE MAIN GUY…. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

  250. let you know later
    May 22, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    ? i definetly feel your pain and am sorry to hear about another victim of hedlunds. josh is a master manipulater, liar, and con artist but beleive me, he has many days of anguish ahead of him in prison. He has also created a life for himself that I would run from. I can testify that I know at least twenty people personally who can not even stand to hear the guys name. Stay positive and feel comfort when he is sentenced and has to go to prison, his story is already out there.

  251. May 22, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    ?…thanks for the info…

  252. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 23, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    ? Thank you for sharing more of your story. Yeah, that’s some crazy shit, man. At least you’ve still got your freedom and integrity.

    Like “let you know…” says, Josh has “many days of anguish ahead of him in prison.” Pretty boys like Josh never do well in prison, especialy when there “story is already out there.”

  253. let you know later
    May 23, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Joshee poo, do you remember what you have done to whom, and what kind of people they are? think hard, or have you fucked too many without even thinking of their lives? it is always best to make ammends to those you have hurt. Attwater, Taft, or Lompoc?

  254. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 24, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Joshee-poo: Head the wise words of “let you know later”, for he speaks the truth, you foolish boy.

    “Think hard” is right!

    Why NOT at least try to make amends? Everyone is on to you now Josh, it’s not like you’re still fooling anyone. You’ve still got a lot to loose, so why not just do some damage control, for your own sake, and come forward and make amends like a real man!?

    It’s in your own best interest to man up to what you’ve done. At this point you’re just making it worse on yourself by continuing to be a little snitch bitch.

    Ahhh, why am I wasting my breath!?

  255. Profit Margin
    May 24, 2008 at 6:19 am

    This thread is interesting to say the least. If this Mr. Hedlund has truly wronged so many people Karma will ultimately get him. However, I have to agree with Theo in that I am not clear as to how this all went down and what exactly did Hedlund do?(Yes I have read both threads) Hedlund bought property to set up grows which were run by young kids and then Hedlund took the profits to pay outrageous mortgage payments? I would assume that if he was the one purchasing the property wouldn’t he want to make the payments so that he didn’t lose the property to the bank? I think Porfiry said that, not in these exact words, but something to the effect that, “Josh would just walk away squeaky clean if there was a bust”. So I assume none of the growers (until the bust in Berkeley) gave Josh up when they got busted? These growers must have been receiving a sufficient amount of money otherwise why would they do all the work? So how were they all “screwed over and wronged”? Weren’t they living high on the hog? Didn’t they know the risk? I really don’t know but isn’t it true that most growers just get a slap on the hand, unless they have a huge grow like the one in Berkeley or a grow the size of the one that Kite guy is accused of having? How exactly did this Hedlund dude f..ck everyone over and con everyone? I am not really clear as to what Hedlund did to hurt all these people. Maybe Porfiry can provide a specific example with a ficticious scenario and setting?

  256. Anonymous
    May 24, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    -robing parteners of their whole operation after they asked to have deed signed over to them. (after hedlund had been amply paid over market value)

    -atempting to sell parcels of land on huge tracts that were not sub-dividable.

    -inflating sales prices on land that hedlund and a new partener were going to buy. saying that they could get it for (X), they split down payment and come to find that only partners half of down payment was actually paid.

    -not paying share of expenses, creating false costs to “cover”.

    -fake parcel numbers.

    -selling product for less than asking then find out it was sold for more than asking.

    -taking advantage of the elderly.

  257. Anonymous
    May 24, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    -cheating on wife, mother of children.

    -lying about history of properties.

    -threatening to kill people.

  258. boring on
    May 24, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    just said i have known him over ten years…didn’t say I was close friends with him. You guys are seriously clinching for something here,,suspicious heh? you have no idea

  259. Beowulf
    May 25, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Boring: “clinching for something” not sure what you mean there? What’s your point?

    Also, adding to Anonymous’ list of Josh Hedlund’s crimes: ratting out Kite (even if Kite is a bad guy, which I don’t know, shows you what Josh is all about).

  260. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 25, 2008 at 7:55 pm


    First it was, [insert tough guy voice here] “Well I’ve know Josh for over ten years…” (the implication being, he’d never do that) and blah, blah, blah… . And now it’s [insert wimpy, backpedaler’s voice here] “I’ve known him, but we’re not close friends”. So which one is it, GUY!? How is it that you’ve known Josh for so long, but are so in the dark about his misdoings? So doubtful? Are you distancing yourself from Josh now that “new shit has come to light!”

    All hail The Dude!

    “Check yourself, before you wreck yourself” :-)

    PP will never stop!

  261. May 26, 2008 at 7:03 am

    stop what? you cant even elaborate on what josh has done. ratting out a guy named kite is all that i have seen so far, and that is pure speculation.

    you have anger issues.

  262. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 27, 2008 at 2:20 pm


    Are you writing to us from a mental institution?

    Do you randomly insert your head into your own ass for prolonged periods of time?

    I’m not even gonna respond to your absurd questions, rediculous claims, as every single point you’ve made (or tried to anyway) or question(s) you’ve raised have been crushed and/or answered a thousand times over on this and other threads!

    It’s time for mommy to put the internet control feature back on.

    Go home Theo, you silly little boy.

    PP will never stopping blogging on the Hedlund Matter

  263. Anonymous
    May 27, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    quoting a federal officer “Hedlund was caught again and repremended into custody, he took a deal to get out”

    -“did he cooperate on Kite?”


  264. Beowulf
    May 27, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    Wow good info anonymous. I’m sure Theo won’t believe you but most of the readers will.

  265. May 28, 2008 at 11:38 am

    quoting a federal officer? if you know a federal officer, lay the story out for us……….

  266. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 28, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Thanks for the new info anonymous. That is very interesting news.

    ATTEN ALL: new strategy for Theo- ignore him completely.

  267. May 28, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    I have to agree with Theo – I would like more information and details.

    How many LLCs are there? What are they called? What was Schectman’s involvement? I’ve heard that they put $500,000 down on the 6 million dollar Eel River SawMill Property – so it is unclear how much they are out.

    I’d like to know if anything is going to be done about Schectman. I’d like to know the extent of the grow operation – was it just in the process of being set up? In the County photos it all looked pretty new, but it was hard to tell.

    Were the LLCs just leveraged property buys? All dope growing operations?

    Mendo Mate’s logo and site all looks like it was designed to be switched over to a pot business rather than a drink business, like it was holding until it was legal or something… even the copy reads like pot copy…

    So I have alot of questions and there aren’t any answers.

  268. boring on
    May 29, 2008 at 11:58 am

    Oh PP , you are the tough guy here. I am not close friends with Josh but have known him over ten years…what don’t you understand about that? Too much for you to sort out?? Perhaps you don’t even know what Josh looks like and therefore wouldn’t know him if he were standing in front of you in line at the store??? Get a f-ing life guy. I do know about his wrong doings and more than you’ll ever know, but since most of his friends aren’t his friends anymore then no one really knows when he is getting sentenced because none of us see him or talk to him much these days! Get it? Or do I need to explain more to you? I think by looking back on some of your posts that you are a bored person at home who needs to see that the only power you have and will ever have is to sit behind your computer and pretend to know everything about this issue. Why don’t you try knowing the person you are writing about…there’s a start!!! You would never know anyone that exciting would you??? Sure got you excited…this whole thing, didn’t it? I’m not defending Josh, just offended by your ranting on and on about someone you don’t know. I think majority rules and no one wants to hear your bullshat anymore. Move on to something else or come up with new info, you slithering wanna-be tough guy!

  269. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Boring on: With all do respect, some of your previous posts could have been construed as defending Josh. I really don’t see how you could know with certainty whether or not anyone posting here knows Josh or not. Some of PP’s posts do seem to show a rather detailed knowledge of Josh. Why would he pretend? For the record I do know him and would certainly recognize him if I saw him.

  270. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    As to when he is getting sentenced just google Judge Jensen calendar every now and then. If Josh has a court date within about two weeks it will show up. I think it last said his sentencing was around June 20th.

  271. boring on
    May 29, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    thank you Beowulf for the direct information…just what I was seeking! For the record its PP that is full of shit on here, certainly if you and I sat down and talked we’d be seeing eye to eye about Josh….but PP has no business here! Peace…if I saw Josh I’d hug him and then tell him how much I think he has hurt people. Its hard when you’ve known someone so long and think you trust them, to then see what they have done to to others…its hard to hate ones we’ve loved.

  272. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 29, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Dear Rose:

    You raise some excellent and thought provoking questions.

    I too would like to know more about the LLCs, stages of ops, and Schectman’s fate, etc.

    For what it’s worth, I had a similar opinion after checking out Mendo Mate online. I think it might’ve been the live music feed where someone was yelling about ” smoke da ganja”. Or maybe it was the Emerald Triangle like logo. Pro-pot? Ya think? :-)

    Thanks for raising important questions Rose.

    I hope someone comes forward with more dirt on the LLCs.

    ~ PP

  273. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 29, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    Boring: I think Josh needs a big hug right now.

  274. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 29, 2008 at 2:21 pm


    Seriously, yeah, it does suck to see someone you know and care about fuck up so badly and betray your trust. So I feel you there.

    Sincerely, PP

  275. gulo gordo
    May 29, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    slithering wanna-be tough guy

    That’s Josh all right. Though he likes to strut in public.

  276. May 29, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    What is the LLC’s role, or the lawyer’s role in setting up young kids with rental houses that are turned into full scale growing operations? Why, when caught, does the Attorney show up and start threatening and why then, does the young kid go around telling people that that Attorney will destroy the one who caught him, and that the Attorney has the ear of the DA?

    How many of those operations are there, quite aside from the large scale “Vilica Mess?”

    What is the lawyer’s role in Vilica? What is it about an LLC that is supposed to protect criminals from prosecution?

  277. May 29, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    LLC=limited liability company

    the words “limited liablility” spells it all out……

  278. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    I hate to break it to you Theo but the limited liability of an LLC has nothing to do with criminal liability.

  279. Jane Doe
    May 29, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Doesn’t that just mean that the partners can’t be held liable for the debts of the corporation?

  280. Jane Doe
    May 29, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    *personally liable, that is.

  281. burn victim
    May 29, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    as for mendo mate, mendo mate had nothing to do with pot! as for kites personal life… personal and business were separated. mendo mate was a day to day business just barely paying its bills. there were only a handful of employees working in the united states . the mendo mate logo was for the eye and a catchy logo for the area it was based in.as for the music and ganja stuff, i believe it was only promo to help local artist,blaze 1 and pyrex. they have a tour bus with one side covered with a mendo mate logo. it was a trade off for advertisement.kite fired himself from mendo mate, after 3 weeks in jail. all of the employees quit their jobs after kite got out. after being lied to for years and ripped off … what would you do? kite then stabbed the employees/investors in their backs and sold the companies trademarks,rights,name, and product to his sister ithica for $cheep.kite then bankrupted “the mendocino beverage corporation” but sold the dba{doing business as},mendo mate.from what i know, kite burned his family as well by skipping bail and his court date. kite also put the families properties at risk of losing. i think they have a lot of properties from homesteading 100 years or more ago.well,kite, amanda, and the kids split or??? mendo mate is still going by a thread. they have moved locations to a smaller unit next door for half the rent. as for llcs. the only ones that i know of are…aquarius productions,a nevada corporation. hunter band,a nevada corporation, kumba clothing, a organic clothing and material company, mendocino beverage corporation, another nevada corp…… a few construction and heavy equipment companies,from what i hear…, mother recycling inc. im sure kite had more money than anyone could imagine, from weed sales, and i wouldnt be surprised if him and josh had more large operations than you could imagine as well. they both have been going huge since before adulthood and really went big indoors for the past 6 years. i wounldnt doubt if they were pulling off 100s of millions in the past 10 years. as for the eel river property, i think that was his dads ranch and i think his dad has been living in mexico for a while now. i think his dad may have gotten into some trouble back in the day and split as well.word of advise, if you plan on investing or working to be a part of a corporation with partners, make sure you have more than a share paper with some numbers on it. make sure your name is on documents and make sure you meet with lawyers with your partners. dont trust a friend when its business. personal and business relationships should be separate but, both should be honest.

  282. burn victim
    May 29, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    from what i understand. a corporation or llc are its on being, like a person. the company can go bankrupt or get into a lawsuit,but the president or shareholders can not be sued. corporations and llcs have tax shield. but the owners do not. there is no law to say how much a ceo can get paid. but, he or she has to pay taxes. but, what about a company house,car,property,boat,dinners,trips,phones,equipment ect…that would be considered business expense. even though the above would be in a corp name, you could use them for personal use. thats how the rich get richer and the poor stay poor.

  283. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    “word of advise, if you plan on investing or working to be a part of a corporation with partners, make sure you have more than a share paper with some numbers on it. make sure your name is on documents and make sure you meet with lawyers with your partners. dont trust a friend when its business. personal and business relationships should be separate but, both should be honest.” Wow. That sounds eerily familiar; sounds like Josh’s M.O. Kite is starting to sound like as much of a dirt bag as Josh. Ironic that Josh ratted him out. I guess it is a rat eat rat world. Sorry to hear about your situation, burn victim. Do you know how Kite and Josh initially hooked up?

  284. May 29, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    from wikpedia:

    “Limited liability, meaning that the owners of the LLC, called “members,” are protected from some liability for acts and debts of the LLC, but are still responsible for any debts beyond the fiscal capacity of the entity.”

    acts AND debts..

  285. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    “some liability” does not include criminal acts

  286. Anonymous
    May 29, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    theo are you ben, cause you seem to want to protect Josh.

  287. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Theo either is trying to protect Josh or he is just a contrarian who gets his jollies through pointless argumentation.

  288. May 29, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    yeah, im ben dover….

  289. burn victim
    May 29, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    guess they hooked up by knowing a lot of the same people that have same interest and that have properties on rivers. dont know exactly. but, they have been close friends for quite some time. sad to say, kite has turned out to be a dirt bag. he should have never worn a white cowboy hat!

  290. burn victim
    May 29, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    and what about kites kids? even if he does not get caught, how are kite and amanda going to explain questions like…where are we from,where are my grandparents,uncles aunts,cousins…? oh! someone just robbed us at gunpoint! call the police! no son, dont call the cops!??? i feel bad for the kids. they have been placed into a dirty situation huh. also, it must suck to drop and erase everything you know and start over on the run and looking over you shoulder every step you take. damn, i couldnt even imagine. i wouldnt doubt if kite and his family are still in the triangle somewhere surviving off the land and living it up. but if so, they wouldnt even be able to go out into the public.

  291. Anonymous
    May 29, 2008 at 9:30 pm

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  292. May 29, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    your hatred of homosexuality doesnt change the fact that we want facts, not speculation….

    thanks for the info…

  293. May 29, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    I assume the LLCs are shields, fronts, and a means of moving money around. It’s really incredible how many there are and how much money is in play here. Coming up with names for the LLCs must have been part of the fun. “Paradise Palms?” Very funny. The use of “legitimate” businesses as shields could explain Mendo Mate, I guess.

    aquarius productions,a nevada corporation. hunter band,a nevada corporation, kumba clothing, a organic clothing and material company, mendocino beverage corporation, another nevada corp…… a few construction and heavy equipment companies,from what i hear…, mother recycling inc.

    That’s a start… who is on the registration for these? Do you have to search the Nevada Secretary of State site for the Nevada Corps? Yeah. I guess that makes sense. Be interesting to see who the lawyer(s) were on these too.

  294. May 29, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    Business Entity Information
    Status: Revoked on 4/1/2005 File Date: 3/9/2000
    Type: Domestic Corporation Corp Number: C6497-2000
    Qualifying State: NV List of Officers Due: 3/31/2004
    Managed By: Expiration Date:
    Resident Agent Information
    Resident Agent resigned
    Financial Information
    No Par Share Count: 0 Capital Amount: $ 25,000.00
    Par Share Count: 25,000,000.00 Par Share Value: $ 0.001

    Officers Include Inactive Officers
    Address 1: PO BOX 27740 Address 2:
    City: LAS VEGAS State: NV
    Zip Code: 89126 Country:
    Status: Active Email:
    President – AMANDA WOOD
    Address 1: PO BOX 27740 Address 2:
    City: LAS VEGAS State: NV
    Zip Code: 89126 Country:
    Status: Active Email:
    Secretary – AMANDA WOOD
    Address 1: PO BOX 27740 Address 2:
    City: LAS VEGAS State: NV
    Zip Code: 89126 Country:
    Status: Active

  295. May 29, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Corp Number
    Date Filed
    Corporation Name
    Agent for Service of Process

    Number: C2724054
    Date Filed: 1/19/2005
    Status: active
    Jurisdiction: NEVADA
    9001 N. STATE STREET
    Agent for Service of Process
    9001 N. STATE ST. #C

  296. May 29, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Can’t find Hunter Band.

  297. May 29, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    There’s a KUMBA INCORPORATED in CA. (anaheim)

  298. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    I think it is hunter brand not band.

  299. May 30, 2008 at 12:33 am

    Sure it is current? Sure it is Nevada?

  300. burn victim
    May 30, 2008 at 10:16 am

    yeah rose and beo, its hunter brand. also, once again,mendo mate had nothing to do with wrong doings. mendo mate had no money. mendo mate was barely making it. if there was dirty money going through mendo mate, mendo mate would have had an organic drink in a can or bottle years ago. to bottle or can, you would need about $150,000 to start. mendo mate had nothing close to that. as far as the other llcs and corps, i have no facts nor do i know anything other than kite and amanda had them.

  301. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 30, 2008 at 4:37 pm


    Thank you for providing so much interesting information, and sharing your insights and thoughts about Josh, Kite, and the dos and don’ts of going into business. Your posts really flush out the details and shed a lot of light on this whole mess. Sound thoughts too on the effects of this whole thing on family, on kids. Hope Kite’s kids end up ok.


    Thank you for posting the info on the LLC officers.

    As The Dude said: “New shit has come to light, man!” It certainly has, it certainly has.

  302. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 30, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    I know said I was gonna ignore Theo, but I can’t resist.

    Theo: When does your disertation on LLCs come out? Will there be a book signing? :-)

  303. May 30, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    some people want to avoid liablility and lessen tax burdens, deal with it. its called capitalism. making money is no illegal.

  304. May 30, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    ….making money is NOT illegal.

  305. Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 8:45 am

    When is the next trial for josh?

  306. Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 10:30 am

    You have to admit, josh is a pretty intelligent man.

  307. Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 10:39 am

    ….making money is NOT illegal.

    The US Treasury might disagree with you.

  308. Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 11:11 am

    ha ha! only ’cause they are pissed off!

  309. Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 11:12 am

    u r right, making money is not illegal, the means in which you do it might be though

  310. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 31, 2008 at 4:05 pm


    You must already hold a doctorate in economics. Your brilliance amazing me! Until I read your remarkable insights I didn’t understand capitalism and thought making money was a crime. Thanks for clearing that up for me, guy.

    But seriously, just for the record, I NEVER opposed LLCs, capitalism, or making money on this thread or elsewhere. Are you arguing with yourself again, Theo?

    Have you enrolled in the jc critical thinking class like we talked about? It’s not too late for summer session.

  311. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 31, 2008 at 4:10 pm


    What exactly is the US Tres pissed off about now?

    If Josh was “pretty intelligent”, as you insist on convincing others he is, he wouldn’t have been rollin’ around with 100K of Kite’s money while out on his recognizance! “Pretty intelligent” people don’t roll Toyotas, especially while carrying cash, and fake ids. Just looks a little funny to reporting officers and all… . Ya know, getting sighted at a wreck with phat cash and fake ids! Yeah, real intelligent Josh is!

    You guys are classic!

  312. Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    does anybody know when he is going to have another trial?

  313. Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Who is Kite in all this?

  314. Beowulf
    May 31, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Hey Anonymous 7:12:
    He already plead guilty, there was no trial. Don’t think there will be any trial; unless he’s going to be tried for another of his crimes :0.

    Kite was his partner; he ratted Kite out to get a reduced sentence.

  315. Beowulf
    May 31, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Oh, and ripping off all your associates and getting sent to prison is not how I would define intelligent.

  316. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 31, 2008 at 9:34 pm


  317. m & m
    June 1, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    I hung out with Josh the other night…had a good time, it was good to see him smiling. Made some bad decisions but under it all is not as bad as people on here think, you’re probably not friends with him, just business related. Most business tycoons step on others to get where they want to go, he helped people get ahead in so many ways, he stoked people out. They just didn;t understand that if he goes down so do others involved. You can’t expect one person to take all the heat when so many others have benefited from his ideas and works. I don’t care what peoples response will be to this comment, I’m entitled to it!

  318. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 1, 2008 at 8:35 pm


    No one is arguing that you’re not entitled to your own opinion, but if what you mean to say is that it’s morally acceptable for Josh to have narced off other people to shorten his own sentence, YOU ARE WRONG!

    I’m sure the “others involved” knew they were taking a risk and could be busted, but for them to expect that it’s reasonable for Josh to turn them over to the feds to save his own ass is absurd!

    So because “most business tycoons step on others to get where they want to go” this makes lying, cheating, stealing, and turning others in morally acceptable!? Following that logic, if you’re at a party and most of the people in attendance start running through the streets attacking helpless old ladies, this makes it right? Majority rule? Are you joking!?

    How exactly has Josh “stoked” others out?

    How exactly have others “benefited from Josh’s ideas and works”?

    Josh is notorious for lying to people, manipulating them, tricking them into unfair business deals, and then threatening to kill them (at least in one case I know for sure about) if they don’t do what Josh insists they do. Huh!? “Not that bad.” Uhhhh….!

    Oh, and then there’s that poor old man Josh scammed. And the women he cheated on the mother of his kids with, and the environmental regulations he’s violated, and the fact that he turned in Kite (who was supposed to be his friend), when he got popped b/c of his own stupidity, nothing that had to do with Kite.

    What does Josh have to smile about? He might think he’s getting off easy, but “when da rain falls, it don’t jus fall on one man’s house, remember dat!”

    You’re right M&M, ruining peoples’ lives “isn’t that bad”!

    Who do you think you’re fooling, guy!?

  319. m & m
    June 1, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    what about the woman he cheated on his wife with..what are you talking about? Do you think that his personal life has any business being posted on here? Its funny how you scrape your info together from other peoples posts. Must make you feel like you are so on top of things here. I doubt you know anything pp. You’re a speculator nothing more.

  320. mendo
    June 1, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    mm, did josh say anything about kite and that situation? whats the scoop?

  321. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 3, 2008 at 2:52 pm


    I mention Josh’s infedelity as testimony to his inferior character and lack of values, not because I care about who he’s fucking.

    I haven’t had to “scrape” too hard, as people are coming out of the wood work about all the shit Josh has pulled. There’s no shortage of information here, guy! Read the entire freakin’ thread!

    Site specificaly where you believe me guilty of speculation.

    I love it when you stupid little kooks come out to defend Josh because you’re so easy to dismiss, because you have NOTHING! You’re a joke!

    And yeah, what did Josh say “about the Kite situation”? Or is that just speculation too!?

  322. m & m
    June 4, 2008 at 9:26 am

    This is where a kook like yourself wishes a kook like myself would share personal information…get a grip. The thing is PP, despite Josh and his wrong doings…I care for the guy, and his family….so why don’t you find someone else to harp on, maybe someone you know perhaps…someone you can physically come face to face with and express your anger and resentment. I hope they shut this thread down since people like you are going beyond what its about….yes freedom of speech is important but at this point nothing you can say on here will change what is happening! peace

    PS What makes you think that Josh likes to spend his time talking about this situation….all the time…maybe people don’t want to hear about it anymore. Get it?

  323. June 4, 2008 at 9:41 am

    i would bet that PP is a detective/investigator involved with josh’s case. why would a person who obviously does not know josh continually push for information here? notice how the detective puts down any person who can not provide useful info? notice how the detective keeps prodding for MORE information, yet knows none himself/herself?

  324. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 4, 2008 at 12:42 pm


    I understand you still care about Josh, despite what he’s done. And I respect that you wish to protect him and his family’s privacy.

    However, let us not forget what Josh has done, and that it is he who owes it to those he’s wronged to come forward and explain himself. If he’d done this already, there’d be no use for this thread. But yet Josh refuses to come forward with anything, to anyone, publicly at least.

    Furthermore, I’m not “harping” on Josh for my own amusement, or to embarrass his family. In fact I feel terrible for his family, his children. What I am doing is pressuring Josh to come forward, and encouraging others with information about Josh to share their experiences. The reason I’m doing this is because Josh’s actions seriously and negatively effected me and my friends (no details here, sure you’ll understand). Also, knowing the extent of Josh’s crimes, how many people have been harmed because of his lying, cheating, stealing, and narcing others off, I have a responsibility to spread the word to as many people as possible in hopes that the unknowing may be made aware of Josh’s MO, and protect themselves against this con-man, as he’s a very real threat to our society.

    If more people can be made aware, then I have changed something, despite your pessimism, M&M.


  325. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 4, 2008 at 1:05 pm


    You are hilarious!

    I guess I just have to be patient with your child-like mind, speak clearly and simply, and just keep repeating myself:

    1.) I do know Josh. He’s about 6′ tall (+/- a couple “), thin, short brown hair, hazel eyes (if I recall), keeps a bit of a tan, nice smile (before you get to know him, and realize what’s behind his eyes), and he speaks in the classic mellow, NorCal stoner drawl. He likes to do yoga in the morning right after he wakes up, downward dog is his favorite (no pun intended). He loves nice clothes and fashion shows, fancy cars, expensive dinners, and good wines (he doesn’t know shit difference between Pinots and Zins, though, despite how he holds his class). His dad is Eric, former Hum supervisor. Josh went to UC Santa Cruz where he majored in finance.

    When you get to know him, you realize Josh is a paranoid, chicken-shit punk who betrays his mellow veneer with an easily detectable arrogance. He talks down to others as if he’s some type of a cool, hot shot mob boss who’s payed his dues and doesn’t have to get his hands dirty anymore. But when you look closely at his hands, you’ll find they’re soft, well moisturized with the best hand lotion money can buy.

    As for my being a detective, you’re right, sort of. Porfiry Petrovich is the detective in Dostoyevsky’s, “Crime and Punishment.” If you’d enrolled in that critical thinking class perhaps you’d find it on the reading list. Oh, no, wait, that’d be Russian Lit 101.

    I’m sure the real detectives and fed agents have way more dirt on Josh than I’ll ever have. But keep trying Theo, maybe someday you’ll begin to catch a clue.

  326. m & m
    June 4, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    wow pp you do know josh…still not totally convinced..its not hard to profile someone around here, like find out who their father is..if you knew his father you would know the rest of his family and friends. Anyway I’m over this….bye bye thread…

  327. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 4, 2008 at 1:12 pm


    As for you candyman, why don’t you answer my questions regarding your claims about Josh, “stoking people out, others benefiting from his ideas and works”, and why it seems (to you anyway) that the ends justify the means. Specificaly, your having implicated that “business tycoons” do it, so it must be OK. You said these things, NOT Josh. So awswer for what you’ve said. Or are you just a tiny little treat with a thin candy shell that easily cracks, and a milk chocolate center that melts in the sunlight of truth!?

  328. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 4, 2008 at 1:24 pm


    Still not convinced, eh? Perhaps you just don’t want to face the truth! Sure, getting the guy’s dad’s name, no big deal. Ben is his brother. But what about the other details I provided that you conveniently ignore? You and I both know I know Josh, and he knows it too! So quit trying to snake around like little kiddy bitches.

    Besides, it’s not like it’s a big secret what a dirt bag Josh is. And the best thing for him to do (politicians do it all the time), is just come forward and say sorry, tell what he plans to do to make it right. Many others have been caught with their pants down in far worse situations and have still managed to save face. Josh’s silence is equivocal to guiltiness, and his supporters’ protests a mockery to his victims! Just let the guy fucking admit it! This is what he’d do if he was any kind of a man. The word is already out that he narced off Kite, so it’s not like anyone would be surprised! Don’t you get it, dude!?

    You’re not “over” shit, M&M, otherwise you wouldn’t be on here.

    PP knows a bullshitter

  329. June 4, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    wow, PP knows what josh looks like and knows his dads name. this is humboldt county, you are gonna have to provide more info than that. how many times have you been to josh’s house? how many dealings have you had with him?

    i still think that PP is a cop.

  330. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 6, 2008 at 2:03 pm


    I wanna thank you, seriously, if for nothing else than for keeping this thread alive, keeping it on the most recent list. Really, thank you.

    Thank you too for reminding us that none of us should ever take ourselves too seriously.

    Please tell me, specifically, what other info you’d like, that I HAVEN’T already provided and I’ll do my best to accommodate you.

    As for your recent inquires:

    I last visited Josh at his place in SF, the Castro to be exact, he likes it down there. I wasn’t gonna reveal this, but I’m actually Josh’s former secret gay lover. He left me for another man and that is why I’m so pissed off at him. There it is, OK!? You happy now!? You’ve made a queen cry! I hope you’re satisfied!

    p.s. I’m not a cop, but Josh used to make me dress up in a cop’s uniform and play cops and robbers with him. He always wanted to be the robber (hmmm…). Every time I caught him, Josh would make me put the hand-cuffs on him and tell him what a bad boy he was.

  331. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 6, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    “This [ISN’T] Humboldt Country”, by the way Theo. This is an internet blog. Or as Christopher Walken so memorably says in The Deer Hunter, “Ya see this!? This, is this!” Or was that De Niro’s line? Either way…, ya get my drift.

  332. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 8, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    check “desperately” for the latest.

  333. The Producer
    June 8, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Now one thinks that quotations from “The Assasination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford” might be more appropriate Porfiry. You are like him, so different than the rest of the family.

  334. PP
    June 10, 2008 at 12:48 am


    Please explain. I must admit I don’t get the reference.

  335. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 11, 2008 at 11:55 am


  336. 8grand
    June 16, 2008 at 1:25 am

    this guy sounds like paul bittner

  337. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 16, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Who is Paul Bittner?

  338. 8grand
    June 16, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    another buster from out of the area who moved up to try to get rich, talked a lot, got himself jacked with ease, and is now mr. take the high road full of karma……

  339. Beowulf
    June 17, 2008 at 12:28 am

    The feds did jack Josh with ease but he toke the low road of Mr. Ratton.

  340. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 18, 2008 at 1:18 am

    I googled Paul Bittner and got some dude’s death metal website. There were other Bittners of course, but thought PP might be being likened to a rock star. That’d be cool :-)

    I’m still waiting for The Producer to tell me more about the Jesse James flic. Where’d you go dude? I seriously would like to get the ref, as I’m quite the film buff, and a bit embarrassed I didn’t get it.

  341. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 24, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Not even gonna answer a poor little man’s request? :-(

    Sadder things have happened…

    …like Josh Lonetree Hedlund’s 6.20.08 sentencing being postponed, AGAIN.

  342. Porfiry Petrovich
    July 1, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Real Property is Josh L. Hedlund

  343. let you know later
    July 11, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    joshee poo thinks that he can have his case dismissed due to a new ruling from the supreme court on money laundering.

    what a joke!!! josh let me tell you something, you’ve pissed the feds off as much as you have pissed off your associates.

    was good to see you

  344. Porfiry Petrovich
    July 11, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    let you know later:

    Long time, no hear. I am glad to see your post up here.

    Are you at libery to elaborate on where you saw Josh? In court?

    Any thoughts on the possibility of Josh being realted to the recent Mendo/Hum DEA raids?


  345. Blah Blah
    July 12, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    As our official system of justice became larded with more and more protections for the accused, actually going through the process of catching, prosecuting and convicting a criminal the official way became impossibly burdensome. So the government offered the accused a deal: You get a lighter sentence if you save us the trouble of a trial. Or, to put it in a more sinister way: You get a heavier sentence if you insist on asserting your constitutional rights to a trial, to confront your accusers, to privacy from searches without probable cause, to avoid incriminating yourself, etc.

    Essentially, 95 percent of American criminal defendants are tried under a system entirely different from the one we learn about in school and argue about in politics (liberals celebrating its noble protections, conservatives bemoaning its coddling of criminals). In this real American justice system, your constitutional rights are worth, at most, a few years off your sentence.

  346. let you know later
    July 13, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    bla bla;
    your pretty much on the mark but don’t forget that once you take a deal then continue to waste the courts time it diminishes your cooperation. especially when you are in joshee poo’s situation (being caught twice with significant amounts of cash while out on pre-trial release)

    been busy but I will not forget to post when I find out something new. Not really at liberty to say when I saw him, but it was not at court. I wouldn’t want the little weasle to get too comfortable. As for the current raids I do not know for a fact but I would put money on it if i was a gambling man. Havn’t talked to my insider in awhile but I will get as much info as I can.

  347. Porfiry Petrovich
    July 15, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    let you know later:

    I understand your situation and respect your need to keep things on the down low.

    Always good to hear from you.

    Maybe we should take up gambling :-) J/K

    Thank your man on the inside for all of us out here.

    Best, PP

  348. want to know
    July 21, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    when is the sentencing date?

  349. let you know later
    August 7, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    coming up soon– august 15

  350. Mendo
    December 19, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Amanda, did you know…
    Your Grandmother was very ill and almost died?
    Your Dad has remarried and moved?
    Your Brother has moved twice?
    Jeanette is going to have another baby and they have moved to Fresno?

    Yes, a lot has happened since you left last spring…
    Imagine how many more things you and your family are going to miss.

    There are some other things you should know:
    Rio’s property has not sold.
    Everyone who signed for your’s and Kite’s bail is being sued by the bail bond company.
    They have all had to hire lawyers, because the bail bond company is threatening to take their homes.

    We know you and Kite are wonderful parents.. Anyone who interacts with your children can see this. Please don’t subject them to another raid. If the Feds find you, they will come with guns drawn. I can’t imagine the terror your children would suffer (again). They are suffering now – isolation, fear and helplessness.

    There is still a way out. It is not too late. The Feds are willing to make a deal if you and Kite return. You will not have to go to jail. You will be able to raise your children. Kite will go to jail, but not near as long as they threatened. You and Kite would do anything for your children. If Kite had to do two or three years in jail, wouldn’t that be worth getting the rest of your lives back?

    We will all help you. It will take some time, work and heartache, but it can be fixed. Please do this for your children. They need a secure, stable future.

    Everyone loves and misses all of you very much!

  351. Beowulf
    January 17, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Talked to Kite lately Josh? . . oh that’s right . . . . he doesn’t like you after what you did. How is that federal case going? Why all the delays? That’s so weird, most people would have been sentenced by now.

  352. Anonymous
    January 18, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    What are you implying Beowulf?

  353. Beowulf
    January 18, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Nothing more than a quid pro quo paid for with treachery and betrayal.

  354. January 18, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Beowulf, and Mendo – what does it mean if Amanda and Kite return? Did they skip out? Leave the country?

  355. Beowulf
    January 18, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    It appears as though they skipped out on bail and failed to appear in court. It does not seem to make much sense. A few years in prison would be preferable to a lifetime on the run. Right?

  356. Josh Had Land
    March 4, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    This is from the Wednesday, March 4th edition of the Recorder on page 5. The same publication that the prior article came from.


    A day after Attorny General Eric Holder announced a ceasefire in the federal government’s war against medical marijuana co-ops, Northern District Judge D. Lowell Jensen sentenced a real estate developer turned pot profiteer to roughly half of what prosecutors sought.
    Assistant U.S. Attorney Keslie Stewart and the probation office argued last week that defendant Josh Hedlund should serve 63 months for his ownership of a Berkeley warehouse in which police found thousands of marijuana plants. Hedlund also faced hefty restitution related to land sales in Humboldt County to pot growers.
    While Hedlund’s co-defendants cooperated with the government, Hedlund did not, Stewart said. Yet Jensen, who called the Holder decision “interesting background” sentenced Hedlund to 33 months in prison and lopped off $880,000 in forfeiture — a little less than half of the total amount – because of an imperfectly drafted plea agreement.
    “How can I say it wasn’t a fair sentence? I can’t,” said Hedlund’s attorney Santa Rosa solo Chris Andrian.
    Speaking after the sentencing, U.S. Attorney Joseph Russoniello said he hoped the enormous cost of Hedlund’s defense – plus the prison time – would serve as a deterrent to others. But Russoniello said it wouldn’t be enough to deter Hedlund, who the government says continued doing business with known pot growers well after his indictment.
    “I expect we’ll see him again, and we’ll deal with him again,” Russoniello said.

    — Dan Levine

  357. Beowulf
    March 4, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Nice quintuple post Josh, but I don’t think it makes your point. After all you now must concede the obvious, that your sentence is extremely light. Also you would have us believe that the federal authorities whom you are so quick to disparage elsewhere are now telling the gospel truth? Is it not conceivable that a public statement confirming your non-cooperation was part of the deal you made? Regardless, you are a liar and a punk.

  358. Unbelievable
    May 18, 2009 at 10:46 am

    An Open Letter to Amanda Wood and Kite Finds the Feather,

    I can’t believe you are letting this happen!

    The courts are threatening to take a couple of homes to pay for your bail…
    They have already made Rio sell his property, but in this market it only covered a small portion of the bail. There is still more than $200K owed on your bail.
    AND there are lawyers and bounty hunters to pay — already totaling more than $50K (and growing).

    You could still come back.

    Kite, you would only have to do a few years in jail.
    Amanda, you would be able to raise your children.
    Your families will be there to support and help you.

    It is the right thing to do.

    You did the crime, you need to take responsibility for your mistake.

    Give yourselves up and it will be over in a few years. Everyone will be able to get on with their lives.

    If you stay away, you will be sentencing yourselves, your children, parents, brothers and numerous friends to a lifetime of suffering.

    Amanda, we have faith that eventually, you will to do the right thing.

    Kite, suck it up, be a man, take responsibility for your actions (like Josh Hedlund).

    Set your family free.

    Time is running out!

  359. ?
    August 24, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    are you with your dad kite?… in mexico?

  360. ?
    August 24, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    i really feel for your children! they are the victims way more than the ones that you owe to! i hope that they are happy and grow to live a normal life of being free from your mistakes.

  361. ???RU
    September 4, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Josh hid behind his “family guy, business man” routine when it suited him, then let his ass hang out all over town being a drunk, a cheater, a scammer and a fool. He spent his last days of freedom like he has and continues to, selfishly.

    And in the end he used all his resources to save his own ass leaving no support for his family (much less paying back those he owed) but why should they be given any special treatment? NO one is safe from his despicable behavior, no one! Not old friends, not lovers, not coworkers, not family…but if you ask him, he is the victim. The victim of; peoples jealousy, the government, the housing bubble, weed culture, bad attorneys, his secretary eating his homework, the planning commission…YOU name it and he has a fall guy for it, just not HIM!

    Yes, surely his children will have to look elsewhere to become decent men.

  362. hey now
    May 31, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Anti-Social Personality Disorder(ASPD) is the new psychological definition that incorporates older ideas of “sociopathy” and “psychopathy.” People with this condition basically have NO conscience. They cannot be reasoned with because they are never wrong. They believe their own lies so there is no chance for accountability. They can achieve great things and are often quite convincing. They are human predators. By most estimates they make up 4-5% of the general population. I believe the % is higher in the marijuana and underground economies, a natural hiding place for these types to spin their tales and find new victims. They do not believe themselves bad or evil; they are sick. Everybody look out and take care of those you love. Peace!

  363. Anonymous
    February 13, 2012 at 9:02 am

    I heard Hedlund just bought up a whole city block in San Francisco – at least 3 or 4 houses. How does he continue to get away with all this?

  364. B.aware
    March 15, 2012 at 8:22 am

    Here, here “hey now”. I suspect there to be a picture of Josh Hedlund next to this ASPD, truly chilling and accurate description of him. “They believe their own lies so there is no chance for accountability”.

    Be careful this person does not suck you in with his “convincing” struggles, you will never get the real story from him because his mind is distorted (sick), and you will likely find yourself in a real mess. This person keeps finding new victims, new attorneys, new supporters to manipulate.

    ASPD=Josh Hedlund=Menance to society

  365. Anonymous
    March 24, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    I’m much too late on the details of this thread but I must give a special “thank you” to PP, who worked tirelessly to bring what I KNOW is the truth. PP, you are a clever writer and as a previous JH supporter I’d like to say “I’m sorry, you are right” You have articulated brilliantly josh’s MO.

    I wish I could say the JH troubles were a thing of the past but he continues to suck people into his web.

  366. humbled county
    October 9, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Guess who I ve seen recently at mission cliffs studio in the sf mission? Josh Hedlund. I wonder if he lives somewhere in this area.. Does anybody know something about it? I know a bunch of dudes from here who would like to talk to him in person.

  367. humbled county
    October 22, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I finally tracked him down from the gym back home.
    He drives a big darkgreen Ford Expedition with 4RKY693 licence plate.
    He lives at 2787 Bryant St. right at the corner of 26th and Bryant St. He must be a subtenant there, since his name is not on the doorbell.
    His car parks in this area.
    Spread the word in our community so we make sure everybody has the chance to talk to him and get things straight. Im sure he is okay with it, since he has offered it so many times here in the blog. This is your chance to settle things with him and move on in life.

  368. February 19, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    And it produces a higher harvest of the foods involved.
    You can use the river for your garden to minimize the waste,
    but 360 liters is to much for a standard sized garden.
    Many newcomers will build their tanks, purchase their fish, and plant their seeds all in the same day or weekend.

  369. KharmazabitchsoisJH
    June 3, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    “Sometimes you gotta be the Kharma”
    The last decade (or more) many of us have passively waited for Kharma to take care of our Josh Hedlund problems. We’ve watched more and more people get stuck in the filth and muck known as Hedlund and quietly hoped someone else would step up and help. We watched the latest most outrageous acts, thinking it would be his last but it will never end until someone decides THEY will stand up and be his Kharma.

  370. Mfnedge
    June 6, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Today I found a hand written letter to Josh from the children of the “Old Man” in Marin.  In the letter the family pleaded with Josh not to take the property from their father “it’s all he has” they said. The letter was heart breaking. I could tell they believed Josh’s compassion could be reached but they were wrong. Many of us were wrong. 
    It took me years to finally read these blogs. I didn’t read them until josh was years into his prison sentence. One, of many things, that bothers me about them is how vague the stories are, which only allows them to be dismissed. Its only because I’ve pieced so much of the puzzle together that i understand just how serious and troubling many of the stories are. The letter reminded me of all the people who’d been hurt. All the good money thrown after bad that people have spent chasing what should’ve been rightfully theirs. The people, like myself, that will never be able to afford what it takes to fight Josh. The people who gave up rather than entangle theirselves more in the Hedlund web. People welcomed him into their homes  he smiled in their faces. People trusted him.  All the bs. He’s a “steward of the land” while dumping trash and toxic materials on properties he then sold. If people were lucky they got left with the trash, the not so lucky were left with environmental fines and ultimately the county got left with the bag which means many of you paid for his misdeeds. The county spent countless hours, thousands of dollars trying to get Josh to be accountable only to find themselves nowhere. You paid for that too, you’re welcome. 
    In bankruptcy court Josh was able to come up with a very clever strategy; have his secretary file for bk which allowed him to not make payments for vast amounts of properties while in prison, use the full advantage protection of that system, then come out of prison and say he had not authorized his secretary to file and he’d like his property back now. This must really burn people up knowing they made cash payments (often large) for properties that simply seemed to vanish into thin air  otherwise known as Josh’s pocket. Not to mention those people who did not receive payments for properties and the ripple effect that had in their lives. Now they got the added bonus of spending tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to simply get paid. Not exactly a deal. I can tell you this pleases Josh, “men want to be me” he has often said. Btw, no one wants to be josh.  Josh doesn’t  even want to be himself. Who would want to face that moment in the  mirror after all he’s done?   You’d imagine he’d feel shame or remorse but he is not like most of us. He merely shape shifts into a persona and mimics emotion to suit his needs but at the end of the day he is no one. 
    Congratulations to the few who had the money and the balls to take this self indulged punk on in court and win: Milk Cr Ranch, John Fetzer, Spawn. Unfortunately, the names are too short compared to the victims but I am urging you to not cower in a fight with him. For every win there was a judge who was paying attention, who was not afraid to do what was right instead of easy. For every loss, a court system of judges and Trustees that simply gave up instead of doing what they knew was right. Think of how grateful many of us would be if they had shut down this poster boy for “judicial estoppel”years ago. *Any attorneys that want more color on the slippery dealings of the Hedlunds please look up last weeks 31 page “Appellate Opinion” filed by the Contra Costa court. 
    Of course i must give a special shout out to the duplicitous puppets who run Josh’s one man band. Behind every little man that hides behind the curtain is a band of duplicitous puppets. Josh could hardly get this far without the help of his brother Ben to run LLCs like Dupri Trust (the name of Josh’s youngest son), West Family Trust and Stateside Trust. These LLCs are comprised of a majority shares to Josh’s two children. The Hedlunds use the proceeds from these trusts to fund lawsuits. Josh appointed himself financial guardian of the children’s assets while claiming he himself has zero assets and only makes $46 per month in income. Yes, I did say “46 dollars!” I suppose he’s selling friendship bracelets on the square. To make up those extra few thousand dollars a month in expenses his mother Ellen stepped right up to the courts to claim, she, on her midwife income, supports him in order to help him evade child support. Job well done Ellen. How proud you must be? I wonder if Josh’s kids will ever question why he never sent a  single dollar gift certificate to them while spending hundreds of thousands on attorneys and properties from prison. Why he spent 100k on a Unimog truck to showboat around town in, before prison, while leaving 800 for them to live on? I’m sure they’ll understand why fraudulent lawsuits were filed to hurt people they consider friends but no child support was paid to them . They’re  kids now but not for long. 
    And for the attorneys that choose paper bags over ethics, I hope you think long and hard about your reputations in the community. Many attorneys have jumped ship when they discovered who the Hedlund’s are and many who wished they had. I wonder what that little Schectman fellow would say now about doing business with Josh? 

    Josh’s ego makes Walter White look like Gandhi but in the end he’s only digging himself a bigger pit.

  371. August 9, 2015 at 2:03 am

    Good article, thanks.

  372. Anonymous
    March 22, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    You simply keep losing but then again
    “How you gonna win when you’re not right within”
    I suggest you start pretending to be a decent person a little harder.

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