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Desperately seeking Hedlund, Vilica

Vilica Ever since the Humboldt Herald opined on the “Vilica Mess,” in which a young entrepreneur purchased vast swaths of Humboldt County timberlands for conversion to marijuana production zones, this blogger has noticed a steady stream of related keyword searches that led Googlers to our humble blog. The original post regularly appeared in the “Most Read”column for weeks following the subject’s November debut.

Now, with Vilica director Josh Hedlund’s guilty plea to cultivation and money laundering, the topic is search term #1.

Maybe the surge in searches is due to that rule that guarantees increased newspaper sales when marijuana leaves appear on the cover. Or maybe the many people who purchased land from Vilica are worried about what will become of their land. Today’s T-S reports:

In addition to forfeiting the Vilica LLC parcels, Hedlund agreed that law enforcement officials may at any time, without warrants, search more than 5,000 acres Hedlund controls throughout Humboldt and Mendocino counties in the name of Schmook Ranch LLC.

Several DEA searches were conducted at Vilica-related properties last summer.

Hedlund is the son of former Humboldt County Supervisor Eric Hedlund. 

Hedlund will be sentenced May 16, and faces $500,000 in fines and twenty years in prison.

  1. Not A Native
    February 6, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Thanks for the information H. Hedlund’s just a good ole’ boy with new style twist. I only hope that his conviction will help residents of Humboldt to begin to come to grips that they are a part of the US, not an independent fiefdom that defies the rule of law.

    I also hope that someday, with more educated and fewer benighted residents, Humboldt will become a real bellwether of sustainable society rather than the pitiful sham of enlightenment it is today, with its ganja based economy and xenophobic culture.

  2. gulo gordo
    February 6, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    So how did Mr. Hedlund come by 13,000 acres? Are all of those former Eel River lands?

    Enquiring minds…

  3. Ed
    February 6, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    We can see how the funds were acquired, but who brokered the deal?

  4. tad
    February 6, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Peace be with you

    Does anyone know anything about the initial search warrants? Like when they were served, what they were looking for etc?

    love eternal

  5. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    I hope it wasn’t anyone involved with HumCPR.

  6. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    I have been told that if one were to cunduct a search of public records in Marin regarding Josh Hedlund this gem would turn up: Hedlund was involved in a civil case there (not the SPAWN one but another) Apparently Hedlund convinced an elderly gentleman to sign a contract for the sale of his property at well below the market rate. The man’s family caught wind of this and were outraged. They took Hedlund to court and the Judge voided the contract. I wonder how many other nefarious “deals” Hedlund engaged in (and got away with)to raise capital for his land purchases (like the ones involving the Schmuck LLC and Villian LLC)(Humboldt residents tell your Josh Hedlund stories!). Some have written this blog to defend Hedlund; Blossom, is this the kind of grace with which Hedlund conducts his business? Theotherme, is this the “entrepreneurial spirit” you laud? Hedlund has tried to defend himself as one who loves his familiy on this blog. Obviously, his compassion does not extend to anyone else’s familiy. It seems he only really loves two things: himself and money. One can only wish that he leave the county quickly and permanently.

  7. February 6, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Blog traffic is doubled, with every other visitor searching Joshua Hedlund, with various additional tags (dea, vilica, john ford, brian o’leary, doj and starting a pot club) to name a few.

    It’s a story.

  8. Jane Doe
    February 6, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Maybe they’ll offer him a plea bargain to catch all his partners. Would that be justified?

  9. Jane Doe
    February 6, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Is that the right terminology? He has already pled but hasn’t been sentenced yet so they could offer him a no prison deal for his testimony and evidence on his partners, if any.

  10. February 6, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    He was one of several defendants. See here.

  11. Josh Hedlund
    February 6, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    I accept sole responsibilty for the mistakes that I have made. My plea agreement is not sealed and is available from the courthouse. There is so much misinformation and slander on these blogs that I won’t even begin to address it. I just hope that anyone who reads or posts will think about how they would feel if the blog was about them. Any complaints can be made to me directly at joshhedlund@yahoo.com.

  12. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    So Josh,do you deny that a search of public records in Marin would reveal the above?

  13. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Uh, it is only slander if it is false and misinformation if untrue. Please sue if you really think it will stand up in court. As far as taking responsiblity the only time you have done that is when you have been forced to.

  14. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Hey Josh how about a public apology to all the people you’ve fucked over for the sake of the all mighty dollar? And to all the families you hurt along the way? How about admitting the way you chose to conduct yourself is morally indefensible?

  15. tad
    February 6, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Peace be with you Josh

    Was a “code enforcement warrant” served on the property, and if so what date?

    love eternal

  16. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Josh You are a liar and a thief you steal from people to better yourself you and your person will go down!

  17. Anonymous
    February 6, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    anonymous at 8:13 said:
    “Knowing Hedlund a little more personally I know of one one particular LLC that is also used -BD Resource Managment, they take US postal orders and transfer funds from one LLC to another as sales. I also know who his right-hand man is when he goes to prison.”
    your killing me man who is it? You would be doing a public service by letting the world know.
    And Josh: of course your plea is not sealed, who are you kidding.
    Oh yea and have fun in the yard. See how far your little back-stabbing routine gets you in gray hotel. Not alot of places to hide, you kinda have to man up. but you would’nt know about that.

  18. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 11:23 am

    I thought you said you love your tow sons, why did you do what you did? You knew the payment was prison, did you really think you wouldn’t be found?

  19. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 11:23 am

    oops two sons

  20. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 11:31 am

    you wanna know? you shuld check out the affiliates of BD Resource Management

  21. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    11:23: he did it out of arrogance and egotism.

  22. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    11:23: he did it out of arrogance and egotism.

  23. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    you shuld check out the affiliates of BD Resource Management

    Why don’t you tell us what you’re talking about, or post some links?

  24. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    check out the CA SOS web site under BD Resource Managment LLC

  25. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Post A Link

  26. February 7, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    to be fair, i have not heard one person who is claiming to have been “f***ed over” by hedlund……that court case in marin may be true, but obviously the family did not let any “fu**ing over” to occur……..

    who else has been screwed over? come forward……….. being jealous of hedlund’s income/enterprise is not an example of being “fu**ed over”…..

  27. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    “I have not heard of one person who is claiming to have been fucked over”
    Have you been reading this blog? Because it didn’t happen to you it doesn’t count? Josh’s “income/enterprise” are do to his complete lack of morals. There is nothing fair about Hedlund.

  28. February 7, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    so who’s been “f***ed over”? names please…

  29. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    the guy is SCUM!

  30. February 7, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    hey 420……..”do” is not the same as “due”……i think you were meaning to say “due to his complete lack of morals”…

  31. February 7, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    i knew that you couldnt name any………

  32. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Thanks for the spellcheck Theo; a very substantive point you make. “I knew you couldnt (is that a word?) name any” name any what? 4:27 said the guy is scum.

  33. February 7, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    4:27 could not name any people that hedlund has wronged….so he/she called hedlund scum….classic denial technique..

  34. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    How about (just for starters) Brian O’Leary, Jonathan Ford, Scott Burghardt, Andrew Brainerd, Rory MacDougall, Derek O’Day, Jeffery Ford Jr., Todd Tisue, Brent Tageson, Reed Olson, and Rick Knott. Why are you so keen on defending Joshe Theo? Have you ever recieved money from him? Also, from your responce you seem to think all post tagged anonymous are from the same person. You are mistaken in that assumption.

  35. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Maybe 4:27 has good reasons not to name people that have been fucked over by Hedlund. Like to protect their identities. The same reason that you post under a sudynm. Same reason Heraldo does. There is nothing wrong with protecting victims or web posters identities.

  36. February 7, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    plenty of names were given…now, how were they wronged?

  37. February 7, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    ive never met hedlund in my life….i was just noticing lots of talk about “fu**ing people over”, but it all seemed so vague….still seems pretty vague…..if you are going to make accusations, you might as well put your cards on the table and tell what you know…

  38. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    They were sucked into a giant conspiracy by Hedlund which they would never have happened without him. They were set up to take the fall when the inevitable bust happened. Josh’s plan failed because he is inept. Just like he failed when he tried to skirt environmental law in Marin and Humboldt. Just like he failed when he tried to purchase real estate from an elderly man in Marin. Whosoever diggeth a pit shall fall in it. Why don’t you answer the question theotherme: have you ever worked for Josh Hedlund? Are you practicing classic denial techniques?

  39. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    I know Josh, he’s scum

  40. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    why don’t you put your cards on the table hypocrite? Reveal your identity?

  41. February 7, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    so……….all those names that were given (o’leary, ford, ect…) are pot growers? and they were wronged by hedlund for not making sure that they didnt get busted? how was hedlund supposed to gaurantee not getting busted?

    thats what you call “fu**ing over”?

  42. February 7, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    ahhhh…now i see………good old boys expect never to get in trouble for crimes….so ford, o’leary, brainard, day and the gang is pissed at hedlund cuz they didnt harvest their crop? wow, thats ballsy….

  43. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    It wasn’t that he garunteeded them not getting busted; he tried to profit from growing on a massive scale by putting others at risk while the thinking that when the bust happened he would walk. Josh was the instigator and ring leader.

  44. February 7, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    “they were sucked into a giant conspiracy”

    thats funny……
    “i swear officer, that guy MADE me grow those illegal plants!!!”

  45. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    why do you call the berkeley 12 good old boys do you know them? you’ve never met Josh? So you admit you are talking out the side of your neck? While so many of those that have met him despise him?

  46. February 7, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    he tried to profit off of growing weed…..wow, thats a new one…….

    helping people to make money is “f***ing people over”?

    this is silly

  47. February 7, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    why would people who dispise hedlund go into business with him? that argument makes NO sense….

  48. February 7, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    hedlund is from berkley, but his dad was a local supervisor?

  49. February 7, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    so….hedlund was setting people up with grow scenes in exchange for a percentage of the crop? is that how it worked? was it indoor, outdoor or greenhouse grown? did hedlund broker the weed too, or just collect the money? and what was hedlund’s take? 50%?

  50. February 7, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    since we are on the subject and so many people “in the know” are here……what was the product like? what strain? how much was he able to pay/get per # ?

  51. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Hedlund was from Berkeley? Like you don’t know he is from Humboldt and you have never met him. Hedlund is a good con, people don’t usually dislike him at first. I have surmised his methods from his own words, actions and the court documents. I would’nt know about the “product.” Seems as though you might Theo, methinks you protest to much. You write as though you have a vested interest.

  52. February 7, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    protest? vested interest?

    what am i protesting, the bust or the operation? if anything, i am opposed to law enforcement getting involved with pot….

    what do i have a vested interest in? is pot still being grown? if i was in on the operation, i would have answers, not questions…..

  53. February 7, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    what was the standard agreement between hedlund and his grower accomplices?

    thats all i want to know………..put up or shut up…….

  54. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Sure Theo you can fool some of the people some of the time

  55. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    I have know idea about a “standard agreement.” Most agree Josh’s “agreements” were pretty substandard.

  56. February 7, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    until we know what the agreements between hedlund and the growers were like, im not likely to believe that hedlund “fu**ed over” anyone……….i need to see some numbers to determine if fair agreements were negociated…

  57. February 7, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    my guess:
    the posters here claiming that they are “in-the-know” are NOT “in the know”…….pretending to know details that arent in the newspaper article that they read is called “projection”……..

    put up or shut up…..if anyone is “in the know”, they will be INTIMATELY familiar with the agreements that were made…

  58. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Oh well then you have mistaken the court of public opinion for a civil court. The purpose of my statements about Josh are to 1) warn others about him and 2) knowing that he thrives on secrecy, and wronging others in secret, not to allow him that satisfaction. I hope Josh will be looked upon with the suspicion he deserves when he tries to make “deals.” I suspect that is why others have posted on Josh. I want the community to know him for what he is: immoral and unethical.

  59. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    My guess: theotherme works for Josh

  60. February 7, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    you caught me…i work for a guy that ive never met….you should have been a detective…….

    and what did he do wrong? i STILL have not heard one person come out and say HOW they were wronged……

  61. February 7, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    here is all i have heard so far:

    “josh hedlund made me grow pot!!!”

    are people really that stupid to think that the public will buy that story? ……….please…….

  62. February 7, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    if i wanted to grow pot, i wouldnt need hedlund…….why cant people take responsibility for their actions?

    if i had been growing pot, i would be man enough to admit that i was at fault and i wouldnt bring anyone down with me…

  63. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    And you still have not revealed you identity. Then we could verify you don’t work for Josh. Your argument cuts both ways. Just because you don’t have all the details does’nt mean Josh has not fucked people over. Get it through your thick skull.

  64. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    so others brought Josh down? sounds like you have inside knowledge. Put your cards on the table Theo

  65. February 7, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    5:58 knows all of josh’s workers, eh? hmmmm………so thats why he/she wants to know who i am…..gotta keep a close watch on those workers….

    so 5:58 knows all the workers, but doesnt know the agreements? hmmmm………something is fushy

  66. February 7, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    its very obvious that josh didnt go down alone…werent 12 people busted? arent the people posting here claiming that josh is at fault for their pot growing endeavors? sounds like the people who didnt get busted are jumping ship…

  67. February 7, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    so back to the point…..HOW did josh screw everyone over? because he financed the operation?

  68. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    The codefendants in Josh’s case are public knowledge; presumably the particulars of Josh’s various “agreements” are not. Again those who have been wronged by Hedlund probably have legitimate reasons for remaining aynonymous and not divulging all the details of their dealings with Josh. I know with the paucity of imagination you so clearly show that this is hard for you to comprehend. If you know something about them do let us know. Theotherme, have you thought about applying for a Macarthur genius grant, your powers of reasoning are amazing. Or maybe you should be Shectman’s legal aid.

  69. February 7, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    i think we are going in circles………i guess that some people like to make claims and then not back them up……oh well, not everyone has guts…

  70. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    Theo. why are you so stuck on who he screwed over and how he did it?

  71. February 7, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    i never said that he was screwed over…….some here are claiming that hedlund screwed people over, but then they give no evidence. im just calling them on their bluff…

    notice how nobody has given any decent info about the issue? there are have been at least 4 or 5 threads about this issue on rose’s and heraldo’s site in the last month or so and i STILL cant figure out what happened…

  72. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    Dude unless you know him you will never really know what happened.

  73. February 7, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    then people shouldnt complain that they were wronged if they wont say how they were wronged…

    here’s what i’m hearing:
    “josh made me grow pot!!”

    thats a weak defense, at best…..

  74. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Theotherme you should’nt defend Josh without giving up your identity so we can see your bias, according to your logic. But logic is not your strong suit is it? So if someone wants to remain anonymous they should not be allowed to call a rat a rat? That is nonsense. Why Theo, if Josh is such a great guy, are so many people coming out of the woodwork to say he is scum? Just because they have nothing better to do? Again, I repeat, you are a hypocrite: you remain anonymous but refuse to recognize that it is legitmate for others to do so. I don’t think anyone has claimed that “Josh made them grow.”
    What we know: Josh has overseen environmental degradation on his (former) properties, which is an insult to the community he lives in.
    Josh was the ringleader, catalyst, and instigator of a huge grow(s) which have led to individualds losing their property and freedom.
    If a poster on Rose’s site is correct Josh is responsible for bringing unsavory cartel types into Humboldt. We all know the kind of environmental damage that is associated with their work. If this is true, Josh has done a grave diservice to the population of the entire county. But you probably think he is making this up to pass the time Theo.
    And lastly, others have come forward to point out even more wrongdoings of Hedlund while chosing to not disclose details that would compromise their privacy. All the while theoterd vehemently defends Josh and claims not to have ever met him. Theo, do you really think Heraldo’s readership is that stupid?

  75. February 7, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    TheoTherme is right about one thing, it is really hard to figure things out in the absence of facts. There is no doubt that a bunch of people got hurt here, probably most by their own doing, but not all. Alot are probably young, and they were living large – dangerous, and fun, successful, and wealthy, able to afford all the toys, the best of everything from wine to cars, if you can afford to forfeit a million bucks plus $6 million worth of property, maybe more (and yes, I realize there was no choice in the matter.) – Those involved found out that once you get out of Humboldt County where you no doubt felt protected, you ran into the real world, and the crap that is tolerated here isn’t out there. The feds take these things seriously.

    Now Josh, and presumably others, are probably looking at 20 years in jail, which will make Josh a 50 year old man when he gets out, he may never see his kids, if he has kids, graduate from high school, never get to go to their ball games, never see their prom, and he will be an albatross around their necks. an embarrassment. I can’t tell from any of the articles if any of the other defendants are also facing similar sentences. It must be a very sobering reality.

    Tragic all the way around. But no one to blame but yourselves.

    Yes – information and specifics and facts would go along way. Everything else is just innuendo.

  76. February 7, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    ummm……when did i say “great” things about hedlund? ive never met the guy. ive actually never said ANYTHING about him, ive only asked questions……

    so let me get this straight, this is all about environmental degradation? and bringing “unsavory types” into the area?and “instigating” people to grow pot?

    ok, got it now………..

  77. February 7, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Nevertheless, I might add, you are believable, anonymous.

  78. February 7, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    who got “hurt”? how can a person grow pot for years and then when they get caught, say, “im hurt”? that makes no sense, unless personal responsibility is abandonded in our society…………

    maybe i should start growing pot, and when i get caught, i can blame paul gags since he instigated me to grow pot by not busting more people….

  79. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Anybody besides me get the distinct feeling that Theotherme is a cop?

  80. February 7, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    No, he’s not a cop… :) are ya? Theo? I don’t get that vibe and we have had some pretty lively exchanges. :) I like ya though. LOL

  81. February 7, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    As to those who got hurt – I’d theorize they were young, some encouraged to come out here by lenient pot rules, promised cover by certain people, and then left hanging when it all came to roost. Yeah, their own fault, and their own doing, but the stupidity of youth, the invincibility of youth… with a very high price tag.

  82. February 7, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    i would have made a damn good cop, thats for sure…

  83. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    i can see why you think that Rose but you are probably wrong on that theory. I would be shocked if Josh gets any thing like 20 years. He made a plea deal after all and gave up alot of cash and property.

  84. tad
    February 7, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Peace be with you

    Who ever has seem the file: What was the warrant looking for? When was it executed? I know people who Shectman fucked over and Hedlund being Shectman’s partner is reason enough not to trust him.

    love eternal

  85. February 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    how can a pot lawyer screw people? the growers should blame themselves…..its called “personal responsibility”

  86. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    it’s true, lawyers enjoy a certain safety in their roles. Much like stockbrokers and bookies,it doesn’t matter who wins, they still get paid.

  87. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    You’re a narc, aren’t you, Theo? Working the “blog beat”. Yeah, I think you’re a cop.

  88. February 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    yeah, this is the place to be if your a cop. you can see all the valuable information that has been gathered on this thread alone…………..

  89. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Which is exactly what I would expect a cop to say.

  90. February 7, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    thanks for giving me your ip address….ill be there to cut down your plants in the AM….have some cash ready, or be prepared to replant….

  91. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Based on his lastest in a string of inane comments, maybe Theo is just a dork instead of a narc.

  92. February 7, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    was my lastest comment better than my firstest comment?

    this thread is going nowhere fast…………people got busted growing pot, end of story…

  93. February 7, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Well, Theo – it wasn’t pot related but Schectman f-**ed over the little Earth Firsters! he got to work for him as “interns” on the Palco case – the Labor Board got him on that one. That story was in the Eye, and maybe other papers as well. Not sure if I have that…. but I might be able to get it.

  94. tad
    February 7, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Peace be with you

    “I don’t know he screwed people over pot growing.”

    I do know he screwed over employees in his legal business. In fact I think there will be a case called against Shectman Monday. Shectman not just a pot lawyer, remember?

    love eternal

  95. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Theo, there you go again with that incredible spelling ability; although it does’nt make up for your lack of critical thinking skills maybe you could get a job as a TA at the local primary school?

  96. February 7, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    critical thinking skills? what claims have i made? ive only asked questions………

    i guess id be sensitive too if i was a grower and was worried about hedlund naming me………why else would there be such sensitivity around asking a few questions?

  97. February 7, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    after reading throught the “villica mess” thread, i am now convinced that no people were wronged….some people do have axes to grind, but its not apparent why…..i would bet that there are some people here locally who think that hedlund owes them money….

    hedlund spoke at length about the issue and posted links also…..https://humboldtherald.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/the-vilica-mess/

  98. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Statement by theotherme at 7:28: “then people shouldnt complain that they were wronged if they won’t say how they were wronged”
    That qoute took about two seconds to find and I’m sure anyone could find many more. Theo, you coninue to talk out the side of your neck, I am niether sensitive, a grower, nor worried about anything Hedlund might do. But I do find the way you continually put your foot in your mouth amusing.

  99. February 7, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    so who were the victims? and how were they wronged?

    come on, people..step up and say how you were forced to make tons of money growing pot….

  100. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Uh, we’ve already been over that, lay off the bong Theo. Are you engaging in “classic denial techniques” (as you so artfully put it) again?

  101. February 7, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    how often are people “forced” into buying property? on top of that, how often does the seller “force” the buyer to grow pot?

    it must have been very difficult to “force” some dreadlocked kids from the city to grow weed……those kids must have been screaming for mercy the entire time that they reaped the benefits………………………..sarcasm doesnt work well on the cpu….

    but hey, they got the “top dog” in getting hedlund right? or did they? who was brokering all the weed? were all the people that hedlund dealt with selling pot to the same place? or were these unrelated land deals that hedlund walked away from once the land is developed?

  102. February 7, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    what exactly am i denying?

  103. Anonymous
    February 7, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    Who said anything about being forced into buying property? Were they dreadlocked kids? I did not know that. Perhaps you met them while doing construction for Josh? Who was brokering all the weed? I don’t know about that, but you seem quite expert in the details of the business. What exactly are you denying? Good question. Maybe your relationship with Hedlund?

  104. February 8, 2008 at 12:00 am

    ive never met the guy personally……….

    so if people werent forced into growing pot, how were they wronged? are they owed money?

    and is this one big pot operation or many seperate mom and pot grows?

    we keep asking each other questions, when neither one has any answers…

  105. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:03 am

    Again we have been over that, which you refuse to acknowledge. I will not simply keep repeating myself as you do. Go back and reread the thread.

  106. February 8, 2008 at 12:06 am

    ok, after rereading through the thread, i see a definite pattern……..over and over and over it is ME asking the questions and YOU getting pissed off about it…………hmmmm………yet you wont say why? or why you think that people were so wronged……

  107. February 8, 2008 at 12:09 am

    here is my theory:
    “anonymous” is either owed money by hedlund or he thinks he is owed money by hedlund….in either case, “anonymous” is fighting tooth and nail to prove to the public that hedlund has “wronged” people………..

    dude, grow up and plant some more ganja….it grows like a weed, no big loss…..

  108. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Put down the bong Theo: you should not type and smoke, it can make you look foolish. Don’t worry I am not angry with you, on the contrary as I have said you are quite amusing. You keep asking the same questions because you have been unable to grasp the answers already given.

  109. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:12 am

    Here is my guess: Theotherme works for Josh and they are lovers on the side.

  110. February 8, 2008 at 12:14 am

    around and around we go…….questions asked by me, pissed off comments by you……too bad you didnt get to harvest dude..blame it all on hedlund..

  111. February 8, 2008 at 12:14 am

    homophobic too?

  112. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:15 am

    Hedlund won’t do any time but he may disappear. If he was arrested and charged in May 2006, He’s had plenty of time to bargain. He may be leading the DEA to others and he may be going into witness protection but don’t be surprised if he vanishes. Half a mil. or 20 years is a little hard to face.

  113. February 8, 2008 at 12:18 am

    ahhhhh……….leading the DEA to others….no wonder people are pissed that im asking so many questions……over sensitivity is usually a sign of guilt..

  114. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Homophobic? I did not know your gender; if you are a man then by all means you have my blessing to marry your partner. So you think if Josh ripped someone off it is okay?

  115. February 8, 2008 at 12:20 am

    who did josh rip off? im assuming you mean pot right? pot rip offs are a dime a dozen, i wouldnt bat an eye at the thought of that happening…

  116. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:22 am

    Okay now your position is clear: when it comes to pot, rip-offs are okay. That is bound to be a very popular opinion Northern California.

  117. February 8, 2008 at 12:25 am

    so josh stole pot from people? is that the deal?

  118. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:27 am

    It seems as though that is what you are saying and that it is okay by you. You just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself

  119. February 8, 2008 at 12:29 am

    im not making any statement about how i feel….im asking what happened………how much pot was stolen? was it dried or stolen right out of the ground?

  120. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:32 am

    I said if. If is a word which we use to introduce a conditional clause. If Josh ripped someone off …. … you said “you would not bat an eye at it.”

  121. February 8, 2008 at 12:35 am

    who did hedlund rip off? and how much did he get away with?

  122. February 8, 2008 at 12:36 am

    the post at 12:18 makes the claim that hedlund was ripping people off…………..yes or no?

  123. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:37 am

    Theotherme you say you are not “making a statement about how you feel but you just wrote: “pot rip offs are a dime a dozen Iwould not bat an eye at it” That is a statement about how you feel. You keep contadicting yourself; arguing with you is like boxing an armless boxer.

  124. February 8, 2008 at 12:39 am

    how much pot did josh steal from you? was it dried or in the ground still?

  125. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:39 am

    No, again if is sometimes used in the English language to introduce a theoretical idea, ie a conditional clause. Your spelling is better than your grammer, Theo.

  126. February 8, 2008 at 12:42 am

    so you were “theoretically” wronged by hedlund…….i get it now…

  127. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:45 am

    Theo isn’t the only one willing to give Josh the benefit of the doubt, Bill Barnum described him as an outstanding young entrepreneur last Fall in McKinleyville during a discussion about the proposed TPZ building clarifications.

  128. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Good for you. Don’t give up Theo, you may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but persistance is its own reward.

  129. February 8, 2008 at 12:47 am

    what benefit of the doubt am i giving hedlund? tell me how much pot he took and ill stop giving him any benefit of the doubt…

  130. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Well I can’t argue with an authority like Bill, Josh certainly is an outstanding enterpreneur. (but maybe not the way Billy meant it)

  131. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

  132. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 8:44 am

    I think the words Bill used were “enterprising young man”

  133. tad
    February 8, 2008 at 10:18 am

    Peace be with you

    I am still trying to figure out if the warrants served on the Vilica properties were looking for building code violations. If any of you so called “knowledgeable types” know this please let me know.

    love eternal

  134. tad
    February 8, 2008 at 10:19 am


    A case number would help.


  135. February 8, 2008 at 10:24 am

    I am still trying to figure out if the warrants served on the Vilica properties were looking for building code violations.

    This T-S article doesn’t name building code specifically, but the info might help you find what you’re looking for:

    Two arrested when code enforcement turns to pot bust
    Times-Standard 07/28/2007

    Humboldt County Sheriff deputies backing up Code Enforcement investigators took over the case Thursday when marijuana was found on property off Bair Road in Redwood Valley.

    See the rest here.

  136. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 10:30 am

    Part of Hedlund’s plea bargain is to let his properties be searched without warrants. The Redwood Cr. bust last summer arose I think after Fish and Game found an illegal stream diversion. The DEA has been looking at every property connected with Hedlund for some time.

  137. tad
    February 8, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Peace Heraldo

    Thanks that’s it. Cops looking for pot pretending to be looking for “code violations.” It’s bullshit because if your not growing pot then they fuck you over with code violations. This has to do with way more than just pot busts, it’s targeting political adversaries.

    love eternal

  138. February 8, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Hedlund was certainly a political adversary to the county when it came to proposed changes to TPZ ordinances.

  139. tad
    February 8, 2008 at 11:56 am

    Peace Heraldo

    Yep and when the attackers came they didn’t give a shit who got hurt in the process. Innocent people got caught in the political crossfire.

    love eternal

  140. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    I waited for you this am, Theo, but you didn’t show up. Made coffee & everything! Of course, the snow is too deep for you to get in here where it’s out of your jurisdiction… & if you have my IP address then you must be HERALDO!

  141. February 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    wow, im flattered….you thought of me all night? and made coffee in the morning?…..i should restate that. im flattered if you are a female…….if you are male, i dont swing that way, sorry…..

    oh wait, did you really think that i was a cop? lol lol lol
    paranoia is not healthy…..

  142. question
    February 8, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    has anybody looked into the background/criminal history of the other defendants? and read the case documents regarding their plea agreements? it doesn’t look like they were the ones getting fu**ed over. to anyone who says “sucked into a vast conspiracy”… if you’re that fu**king stupid to grow pot in a warehouse with a bunch of criminals and guns, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!? at the very least josh has posted his email and stood up and taken responsibility which is more than i can say about the sandbox, name calling anonymous posters. it sucks when you realize people are smarter and work harder than you so the easy reaction is to drag them down to your non-aspiring level instead of using them as motivation to better yourself. but thankfully the kinds of posters that are anonymous exist because my super burrito isn’t going to make itself and just jump into my car.

  143. February 8, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    thats what ive been saying all along…

  144. Anonymous
    February 8, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    “question at 3:48:” First of all you are critising others for posting anonymously while posting anonymously yourself? Furthermore, Josh was leader of the group that grew in the wharehouse; most people hold the leader of the group responsible for its actions not the foot-soldiers. You ask us to admire Josh who was “stupid to grow in a wharehouse with a bunch of guns.” Is that the kind of conduct you wish us to aspire to? Your post is self-contradictory and nonsensical. Maybe you should aspire to be little more thoughtful.

  145. GMF
    February 8, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    144 posts and “The Otherme” made 56 of them!!!! Maybe he should change his handle to “The Sameolebutthead”.

    Enjoy your jail time Mr. Hedlund. It’s probably not as bad as those A&E documentaries make it out to be.

  146. question
    February 8, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    i wasn’t talking about josh, i was remarking on the sympathy expressed for the “foot soldiers”, who were so ruthlessly forced into making money and to grow pot. excuse me if i wasn’t clear, i think its ridiculous to feel sorry for kids who tried to play a big boy game and decided they didn’t like the rules when they didn’t work out in their favor. and to compare weed growers to foot soldiers? this isn’t an revolutionary group fighting governmental injustice, its people who are willing to take on a high amount of risk to earn an even higher return for their time. do you think josh was standing at a podium rallying the troops? brainwashing impressionable young minds to come join the cause of making money hand over fist? oh those poor kids, how evil josh is. and the obvious point about posting anonymously, which you seem to have missed, was in reference to josh, who has posted his personal email, willing to take on all detractors, and the anonymous posters who are seem to have an axe to grind and are calling for all the other retahded…i mean wronged people to bring the truth to the light. sorry for the name calling which i denounced earlier but its just too easy. i mean really, how many successful business people do you know that base their practices on sympathy for the stupid and illogical? sorry to dash your hopes but forrest gump wasn’t real, i don’t know how many options in life you truly have. welcome to the real world, but the real cause of your woes and inabilty to climb any kind of ladder be it social or economic (or even the complex kind that come with chutes and are printed on a board) isn’t josh. the person responsible for your downtrodden existence is hiding in your house right now above your bathroom sink. HURRY! can you find him?

  147. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 8, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Now, now, now everybody! “Can’t we just all get along?” Can’t we just all be at “Peace”, as Truthiness says!? Maybe we all just need to be a little bit more like The #1 Kim and rise to Josh’s defense. After all, Josh is just trying to defend himself in a “forthcoming” and “accurate” manor, right?

    Think again!

    Josh is neither forthcoming nor accurate. And only the fool, and the well paid defend him. Josh, you know better than anyone what you’ve done, the lives you’ve ruined, the money and property you’ve stolen. And you thought you were sooo smart, sooo cool, sooo hip, sooo slick. Well think again, GUY! Blinded by greed and pride, your transgressions have now been exposed, and it’s time to pay the piper! I can only imagine how stupid and puny you must feel right now, knowing what you’ve done, and what you now face. You must be terrified, distraught.

    The only people I feel sorry for are your family. How selfish of you to put your own two innocent children and their mother in danger because of all your shady dealings! What kind of a man are you!? It seems as though your parents neglected to teach you the Golden Rule: “Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.” But it’s not fair to attack your poor parents. God knows they’ve suffered enough because of their son’s horrible and selfish actions. I’m sure they did their best to raise you well, but when they tried to teach you the Golden Rule, it must have gone in one ear and out the other.

    Before I proceed, I must first acknowledge Mr. Knowitall, and The Intrepid Sleuth. Knowitall, you don’t sound “bitter” or “jealous” at all, as Truthiness would have all of us believe. You’re just operating from the rational idea that if, “it it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. And to Sleuth, any sensible person knows that being a good speller is no excuse for being a liar, and a narcissist.

    Kim: I agree with you that people should take responsibility for their actions, and not blame others for their misfortunes. However, when someone like Josh lies and manipulates young, naive, optimistic and hopeful entrepreneurs into thinking that he’s their friend, and wants to help them make money, one can not overlook the plain and simple fact that it’s Josh, who for so long dodged responsibility and risk, and put others in harm’s way while he hid behind the Wizard’s curtain hoarding profits, who is largely to blame. Sure, no one forced those kids into taking part in his schemes, but you can not overlook the fact that Josh is a conniving bastard who has clearly ignored Yoda’s teachings, and crossed over to the Dark Side, trading his integrity and SOUL for Earthly riches. Besides, for the last two years Josh has avoided taking responsibility for anything, and it is only now, after he’s realized that it’s to his benefit to “take responsibility” (aka cooperate with the feds so he doesn’t get totally screwed), that he has decided to do so. And if you really expect any of us to believe you’re “an outsider, looking in”, an objective voice as it were, well then…perhaps you should consider renaming yourself, #2, or #3, or better yet, “The Last Kim.” Just answer me one thing: How much did Josh pay you to say what you said? As for “personal qualms with Mr. Hedlund”, of course this is personal! When someone smiles and sweet talks you to your face over wine and dinner-date deals, then threatens your well being and livelihood before stabbing you in the back, it can’t be anything but personal.

    Truthiness: your very name blasphemes the word, the idea, the meaning of all that is TRUE. You and I both know that the “bad vibes” towards Josh aren’t about him being a grower at all, so quit trying to divert the argument with your strawman reasoning. The “bad vibes” are clearly because of Josh’s gross dishonesty, his blatant betrayals, and his nauseating hypocrisy, especially regarding his supposed environmental righteousness, his greenness, and his sustainability. The only thing Josh seeks to “sustain” is his own scrawny little, pretty-boy ass. Didn’t George Dubyah once refer to himself as a “steward of the land”, much like little Joshy-poo has? I don’t know Truthiness, “what has the world come to?” When cowards like Josh get away with so much, for so long, it makes ya wonder, doesn’t it?! But I must say, the world is still a pretty good place if a “craven dog” like Josh has finally lost his bone, and the animal control has at long last caged this sickly little canine bitch, who’s bark is undoubtedly much bigger than his bite.

    Speaking of bitches, I suppose it’s time to throw this desperate little tramp a few table scraps. I know it’s not right to feed a dog that begs beside the dinner table, but come on, prison food probably isn’t all that tasty.

    Josh: You brought this on yourself, GUY! You can lie to yourself, but you can’t lie to us. I mean come on, guy, who do you think you’re fooling with your pre-cooked, pre-packaged, single serving, ‘poor me’ defense. We know all this blogging is driving you insane. But do you really think anyone is going to contact you directly? Trying to divert these criticisms out of the public eye where they are exposed to open discussion and debate, and into your ever shrinking private little world where you can try to play the victim behind closed doors, and bullshit your way out of this mess, if only to a handful of gullible listeners, is nothing more than one of your feeble attempts at being the little control freak that you are. Besides, if you sincerely wish to take full responsibility for your mistakes, as you claim you do, then why don’t you openly enumerate ALL your mistakes, and not just the ones for which you’re being charged. And if you truly wish to right your wrongs, then why not pay restitution to all those you’ve wronged throughout the years with your crooked dealings, real estate scams, and strong-arm robberies.

    The players are cast, the curtain is up, the orchestra is playing, and the stage is lit. It’s show time!

    So how will this tragicomedy end, you might ask? How will the plot unfold from here? And what will we, the audience, take away from this performance? Have we finally seen the last of the Vilica Villain? I’m afraid it’s still too early to tell.

    This we do know: there will be no fine dinning at chic’ restaurants when Josh does go to prison. Gone will be the peppery Zins, the jammy Pinots, the fashion shows, designer clothes, and trendy gossip magazines. There is no shade grown coffee, no organic cotton garments, or pretty women to sneak around with and cheat on your children’s mother once Josh is locked behind the brick and barbed-wired walls. Josh will HAVE to shit where he eats. And all he can do is pray that he doesn’t drop the soap.

    But look on the bright side Josh. Paying the AB for protection (with the last of your stolen money) shouldn’t be too hard since you already think you’re superior to everyone else.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, please let me close by echoing Knowitall’s hope that all the people Josh has deceived and screwed over, do in fact, “rebound and prevail.” If Porfiry Petrovich has done his job, then this little “rascal” will be exposed for the dirty little rat that he is.

    Until next time… .

    Farewell, PP

  148. Beowulf
    February 8, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    If you are swayed by Josh’s tansparent attempts to garner sympathy you are gullible indeed. No one said “josh forced anyone into growing pot” what he did was attempt to set up a situation in which he derived profit from others taking risks which he was afraid to take himself. Fortuanatly, he failed in his “business” venture, he was unable to hide behind a string of LLCs’ and his little shell game was exposed. If Josh wanted to grow weed he should have grown it himself but he did not because he is a coward. Josh is a failure because he is inept; now the very thing he was so afraid of has happend-he has been busted. I don’t think anyone wants your sympathy, question boy, but you are pathetic if the best you can do is call those with whom you disagree with “retahded.” Furthermore, Hedlund’s misdeeds are not limited to the fiasco in Berkeley and have been described elsewhere numerous times, so I will not bother to repeat them. You seem determined to ignore this; I wonder why? Josh has never accepted responsiblity for anything unless he was forced to. For the last two years he has fought tooth and nail to shirk responsiblity for his actions in Berkeley and he has never attempted to right other wrongs he has commited. As far as your Ad Hominem attacks on posters whom you know nothing about, that only undermines your already weak arguments and makes you appear petty and ignorant.

  149. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 9, 2008 at 1:14 am

    Theo: I really like your tactic of asking the same series of questions over and over again, ignoring responses to said questions, and your circular reasoning. Socrates would be proud. Let’s make a deal, you show me yours, and I’ll show you mine. You tell me everything you know about Josh, and I’ll tell you how many pounds and if it was wet or dried already :-) Sound fair? I know you’ve never met Josh personally, never worked for him, and this is all theoretical, but let’s just say for the sake of argument, for the sake of my new book, for the sake of just asking questions, what might Theo know?

    Question man: No one is blaming Josh for blocking any kind of ladder climbing-social, recreational, metaphorical, or otherwise. We are simply calling a spade a spade. Josh knows what he’s done, he’s just not openly admitting it. And all you suckers who are trying (quite poorly I might add) to toe the party line in his defense, all the while claiming (like Theo) that you don’t know him, are just asking questions, and are criticizing others for posting anon, while doing it yourselves, are quite simply doing nothing more than making utter fools of yourselves! Not that you asked.

    No one is going to explicitly state anything that jeopardizes their privacy, freedom, or safety, so just get over it right now! The sooner the better, OK, GUYS!

    What we can do is look at the information we do have and form some conclusions based on that information.

    Theo, you’d make a terrible cop, you’re not convincing in the least, and so you should either stop now, or come clean with your dirt on Josh, as it’s obvious you have some. Don’t be afraid, young Jedi, feel the Force, let it flow. And please, for your own good, stop giving away so many clues that reveal your knowledge of the ganja trade, its workings, and your obvious involvement in it.

    Thank you to GMF for joining the league of rational voices. Maybe A&E and Josh can make a documentary/film deal!? :-)

    Good night to all, and to all a good night.


  150. February 9, 2008 at 11:46 am

    so…. according to this thread,im a cop who also grows pot…..

    this is too funny………..ALMOST as funny as Porfiori having been ripped off by josh………dont worry man, you can plant again…

  151. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 9, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Theo, thank you for responding. Unfortunately, I was hoping for a bit more of a chalenge. Instead, you’ve left me with such an easy target. Responding to Theo is like shooting fish in a barrell.

    First off, please spell my name right. I mean come on man, it’s only common courtesy to do so. I got your name right, dude. Return me the favor, at least.

    Second, if you’d paused long enough to actualy take the bong out of your mouth, and wait until the smoke cleared, you would’ve seen that I defend you and say that I think YOU ARE NOT A COP! As for whether you grow or not, I think you might, or at least have at some point, but I don’t really care, and would never claim either way for sure. That would be something the likes of Theo, Thruthiness, or Kim.

    And NO, Josh never ripped ME off! So wrong again, GUY! I was simply speaking out against Joshy-poo for all the wrongs he’s commited against others. Why? You might ask. Well, my poor Theo, because, “Injustice to any people, anywhere, is an injustice to all people everywhere!” It’s like those who didn’t speak up against Hitler and the Nazis, until they came for them, and of course by that time it was too late.

    Theo…you’ve been pressed with this simple question before, but have dodged it like a cracked-out boxing kangaroo. So will you please just answer the question!?

    Is it morally acceptable to rob someone, if what you are stealing is pot?

    And, why, as your statements imply, should someone who is robbed of their crop just suck it up and plant again?

    Please give me something a little better to work with next time Theo. Make me earn my name.


    p.s. take a toke for me, BRAU!

  152. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 9, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    And Theo, I hope you’re using a vaporizor, for your lungs, if nothing else.

    Best, PP

  153. February 9, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    should someone who is robbed of their crop just suck it up and plant again?

    Yes. Because what they are doing is illegal, and they shouldn’t have had it to be stolen in the first place. BUT – if you are part of that community and there is any honor among thieves, then NO, because presumably although you don’t mind breaking the law, there is nonetheless a code of ummm, ethics, or a code of the weed, whatever you want to call it. I imagine that is why some people end up dead.

  154. Beowulf
    February 9, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    I have have it from a reliable source placed deep within the bowels of the military industrial complex: Theo is a cop. To be percise he is a member of the elite Spelling Enforcement Unit.

  155. Anonymous
    February 9, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Rose, what about getting ripped off for your legal crop?

  156. Beowulf
    February 9, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Thou shall not steal, is that not the eighth commandment?

  157. tad
    February 9, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Peace be with you

    Is “Theo Therme” “theotherme?” And Beowulf they don’t print the bible on hemp anymore, that law has been outlawed.

    love eternal

  158. Anonymous
    February 9, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Rose said…
    I’m not taking this as a put down. I welcome the discussion. I’m learning.

    Yes I can see thank you. Also as to “learning” well see below … I have some questions as I’m learing too …

    Back then, I was 20 something. I was judgmental enough to excise any of that culture out of my life. With very few exceptions I made sure none of the people I associated with were into that. Yeah, some friends smoked now and then, but they didn’t do it around me, and they didn’t talk about it around me.

    There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.

    I do think there is a HUGE divide between the reality you saw in Southern Humboldt and the reality here. A completely different reality. Maybe it was because it was less populated down there.

    Where are you talking about Rose? I’m talking Fortuna and Eureka, not “so hum” hippies, or ranchers. I’m talking about the everyday people that went to work who’s husbands and sons and dad’s grew pot on weekends up in the hills.

    I’m talking about how RedWood Mamorial Hosptal (Fortuna) would stop all surg. except emergancies durning harvest because their RNs and LVNs were going (local working people, not so hum hippies) up to the hills to help with harvest and trim.

    I’m talking about how hard it was for restrerants to stay open durning that time because all the ‘help’ was off in the hill triming or some other way helping with the harvest.

    Rose when you write:

    “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”

    Is that what your talking about? The people I make refrance to lived in Eureka, Fortuna, out to Hydesville and Carlotta, and down to Socia.

    Rose writes:
    “I do think there is a HUGE divide between the reality you saw in Southern Humboldt and the reality here. A completely different reality. Maybe it was because it was less populated down there.”

    Sorry I’m repeating myself here – or your self here (he he he = wink) but I really want to show you what I “THINK” you just did and said, or in todays lingo “spun” and you may not even know you did it your self.

    What I see this as (and please I’m going for truth here – what ever that may mean … I thought this converstaion was sort of barried and lost on some back page – and if you want to quit. Let me know – I see Hank is in here – so don’t have to reply on record here on any of this … BUT …

    Here’s what I see you doing – and again I may be TOTALLY WRONG – but follow what I see – and think is pertty typical of “old humbboldt” thought pattern …
    (please don’t takee this personal or as an attack!)

    a.) Rose says “Back then, I was 20 something. I was judgmental enough to excise any of that culture out of my life. With very few exceptions I made sure none of the people I associated with were into that. Yeah, some friends smoked now and then, but they didn’t do it around me, and they didn’t talk about it around me.”

    —-> I’m talking about late 60’s into the 1970 and some 1980’s Humboldt

    So your how old now – how old then = teens through 20’s?

    and you didn’t smoke had some freinds that did – and some that didn’t but they didn’t do it around you and they didn’t talk around you.


    THEN YOU SAY … (in the typical Old Humboldt person way (and I do it too) of “dissociation” / splitting of realities …

    “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”

    Read that line please … 2 or 3 times!!! let it sink in! (I do it to … I belive WE ALL DO …)

    Next you go into the “phase right past that” and push it all off on So Hum …

    “I do think there is a HUGE divide between the reality you saw in Southern Humboldt and the reality here. A completely different reality. Maybe it was because it was less populated down there.”

    That’s why I went into FIRST explaing it was NOT So Hum hippies I was talking about – it was ALL classes of WORKING HUMBOLDT PEOPLE … From the TOP (what ever that may mean to you) to the bottom (what ever THAT may mean to you) = when I said I was frist aproched about POT GROWING by a local young woman – she was in her late teens or early 20’s and she was just amazed that I’d buy property in the Eel River Delta area and NOT have any ‘starts’ ready to go …

    This was NOT some “hippy So Hum flower child” this was a “lame, local, red neck, secrtary type” who was slightly over weight – and who’s dad was a contractor – she then ran me over to his home and said “here you can have these – just put them out and get water on them …”

    I was F* stunned – I mean I’m no ‘vergin’ to MJ – I was an Old hippy gone to “working man” by then (mid 1970’s = 75 or so?) and had a great job as my wife did – and we both worked out and ran, and had moved to the ‘country’ to get away from the traffic and crazyness of the city. We looked forward to putting in a big garden (which we did) OF VEGTABLES and ‘home steading’ we joined the Grange and THOUGHT we were moving to Mayberry – what we moved to WAS Mayberry – but with this ‘underside’ where everyone … AND I was working in Eureka!! … where everyone was ‘involved’

    and I even say it today – or think it … its like the “lame locals” are HIPPER then the “So Hum hippies” OR the “Arcata hippies (or what ever they want to be called – sorry Hank if you read this – I don’t know what to call you up there = so many of your ‘back bone’ are libral old hippys – now ‘passing’ as some kind of conservities … (chuckle) I love when ms. Alex is called a Republican .. when she moved here she was a 60’s flower child in every sence of the word ..

    But bottom line is every local is HIPPER then any ‘hippy So Hum pot grower’ or ‘Arcata HSU polico_ prog’ or even the Miller/Salstman group (if you will) Loco-slut-ions .. et al ..

    Because every local has that “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.” Thing going on ..

    Like ‘what happens in Humboldt (locals) stays with humboldt locals”


    But unless you got in (someone recently asked how long we had been here – I told them .. and they said “Oh your grandfathered in Local” …

    I guess that’s a good way to put it —

    What I say, when I try to explain this to someone is –
    first I go about 40% of Humboldt is conseritive
    40% libral
    20% middle of the road

    BUT there is this OTHER mesaure – where the conservs’s are more ‘hippy’ then the most ‘hip’ libral … and that is the awareness of POT in humboldt…

    every person who grows in So Hum (or did) imagines they are the only ones – or them and there friends (what you RE:’ed rose in your “it was diffrent down there” statment)

    every person in Arcata who smokes or grows thinks its just THEM and their friends …

    BUT every Local KNOWS that at least 1/3 of their friends grow – and they also know (or suspect) that all the hippys in So Hum do – and those crazy kids in Arcata do too.

    Its funny – the locals are “in” on the whole over picture of what Humboldt is like much more then any ‘prog’ because of that …

    This awareness that is dissociated from normal life and people that was perfectly expressed in your statement rose …

    “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”

    right and when the papers BACK THEN carried a bust of an old local family it was IGNORED – hell Terry busted the (oh what was there name? they do the local bottled water? You know who I mean – out 36 and Fortuna stable local .. nice people …)

    how many times were they “busted” before anything happened to them? No LTE’s about that — No “oh they back the DA’s office” on that – nor anyone looking for ties!

    Why??? no one had to “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”

    EXACTLY – I belive they got HIT 3 times – once so far up 36 it was in trinity – then again lower then again at HOME – and all but the final one nothing was done – and I’ll bet you don’t even thing 2x when you see their water bottles every where … that “oh ya that’s those pot growers – who are ‘friends’ of DA Farmer … who got off 2 out of 3 times – for HUGE busts – and the last time it was just a slap on the wrist – and no one said anything … the ‘growers’ were releaved for them – the locals had the “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.” Blinders on – so it just goes by .. or its NOT safe to talk about – think about – or just “busieness as usall”

    Some how it was all rigght for HUGE LOGGING op’s to be hit with ‘huge grows’ and the “workers” take a fall – and it never went back to the top ..

    But every where I went (local people) and would mention “oh did you hear about — Did you see the cover of the TS today .. but you so and so is sweatin right now .. hay hay hay … and we’d laugh about it – and look at each other knowingly – and it would some how go away …

    “No charges – no involvement with so and so’s personal logging (jipo) was found – workers only! … “though all of the equempent on site was owned by bla bla bla — he is not being charged – the workers said they did it all … ”

    heck then I’d go over to there home and I’d see someone come in drop off staks of money – and it was handled like something out of the Soprainos – just good business ….

    “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”

    Yup your right!

    Not a put down – it was just so rampent – its how we all devloped that out look – its living with something so long – that its just ‘normal’ like looking at war footage and going “how can those people live with that?”


    “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”


    So what I’m JUST SUGGESTING here that MAYBE this ANGER and RAGE or what ever ‘fact finding’ that is going on with Paul and anyone someone can some how assocate with Paul … or the Prog’s …

    is a reaction a decominstation for those years of dissociation of having NOT TO SEE NOT TO SPEAK of this whole on going process of many of the male locals growing and their wives going off to prune (again the hosptials – my wife is an RN – she was stunned that ALL OPPERATIONS were cancled that weren’t emergancy … every harvest – we thought “what the hell did we walk into?”

    I’d see ‘stight local people’ all day long at work – and hear their ‘tails’ … I was trusted – as that person the other day said “You were grandfathered in local” —

    anyway back to the motivation … behind this … and why none then – when ever 3rd person was involved (DEA figures when they started CAMP up here in early 1980) … some how it was alwasy like “oh their talking about SO HUM or ‘some where else’ – not the locals – not Eureka – and for SURE NOT a bastion of Uprightness – Fortuna!!! …

    well Yup that is where and what I’m talking about …

    Every ‘local rancher kid’ that was pissed off at his dad (rightly or wrongly so) had an OUT – any local kid could go off and put a ‘few’ out on the back 40 – which because they had access to 400 or 4,000 or 40,000 acers – wasn’t ever ‘just a few’ – it was 1,000’s – and again I’m tlaking NOT SO HUM – I’m talking locall Eureka and good forutna folks …

    and the engeners kid (who just died) who was a total Red Neck in one way – wore his hair like Elton John back in the day – and would go out and do MONDO grows in the hills – then turned back into a ‘red neck’ realtor – who was ‘cool’ – and laughed up his sleave at all the kids coming into his office asking for 40’s with good sun and gravity feed water … in the 70-80’s …

    and act like they invented it

    like now kids walk into realtors asking for homes with 220 service or what ever they need for indoor grows …

    I see homes advertized – just the way they are shown on the realstate network and ROFL — “lovely home with fully insolated shop with its own 100 apm service, legally put in.”

    (gawds what kind of home ‘hobby’ machine shop would someone put in there – funny NO WINDOWNS though … )

    “Out building own service – 220 100 amps … ”

    they PANDER TO IT — still because they grew up here they KNOW — if their NOT doing it – then they are working – and people move to Humboldt for that reason — I don’t know the % but it must be large for the ‘laughter’ about it in realstate places …

    again there in Realstate that dissociation again!!!

    On one had (the same people the same EXATE PEOPLE) will go on and on about HOW BAD the grow homes are – then talk about how GOOD the sales are – and how they aren’t worried too much about the market taking a dump in Humboldt because everyone is always looking for space to grow – now indoors …

    and the kids coming in – think they invented it – just like the ones in the 70’s and 80’s coming from the city —

    and the people selling the houses .. are laughing because they got their start growing back in the day – and also then selling to grower kids – people who would take a topo map and over lay a ‘big ranch’ on it – and then start drawing out 40’s – walking it – or riding it – and finding the water – and springs – and cutting roads for 40’s — a nd 80’s and 160’s ..

    all “nice people” it is the industry – its was as big as logging was and now is the same as HSU makes (according to esemats) – but we dissociate the reality —

    Spilt — off the data and the information – compartmentlize it …

    The hippy kids (or what ever they are this round calling them selves) all think they invented it – and I watch the knowing nods – and twinkling eyes of the locals just not rasing an eye brow to any of it …

    other then to PUSH IT OFF on ‘the other” “oh that’s those so hum people” Oh that’s what’s happeing in Arcata those new guys coming in putting in grow houses …”

    when so many locals have them – – working men – with greese on there hands all day – come home and ‘check their plants’ …

    its endemic as the dissociation from it is …

    UNTILL ITS LEGAL (Taxed and regulated like booze or any other LEGAL drug recreational or medical) – it will keep going that way …

    I don’t think the general populace is anti-pot. That’s why 215 passed, its why people looked the other way, its why juries weren’t into convicting people for an ounce or a grow, and why there was a silent cheer when Gallegos announced his prosecutorial guidelines. I don’t think, when it came to that that there was all that much of a cultural divide. It had to do with compassion, and I don’t just mean compassionate use. The general image of a pot smoker was a happy go lucky college student, growin’ a few plants and not hurting anybody.

    Frist – its so funny OF COURSE no one is “anti-pot” who is in Humboldt locally driven economy …

    Only place you can find an Anti-pot person is in ARCATA!

    think of that =

    the Board of Sups set a VERY HIGH LIMIT – much higher then Pauls – paul’s held it back to 99 plants and 1,500 watts indoors – (now if you dont know anything about growing – you don’t know what that means = that means ONE LIGHT per person and a ‘veg’ area = that means he could (paul could) have said in doors you can have a MILLION SQ FT and a GILLION plants – but still kept the grow ‘problem’ undercontrol – just with that 1,500 watts

    it is impossable for a big grow to happen with just one light!

    – it was the LOCAL BOARD OF SUPS that tore off the 1,500 watts limits not the Paul and his people …

    there by tearing off any limits to growing indoors –

    — and 100 sq ft is LESS then 10 plants (terry) out doors = one plant can do 100 sq ft = that’s only a 10×10 area! .. in the sun light – that’s one or two plants at most!


    back on point – the ONLY PLACE that is NOT (as much) affected by the POT Ecomony (and hang on here – let me explain) is ARCATA!!!

    why? because they have HSU … HSU brings into Arcata as much money as the POT INDURSTY brings into the REST of the county (maybe a little less)

    so Arcata is the place that you’ll see the frist ‘crack down’ on any MJ item – because they are not / or have not been ‘owned’ by it — they are owned by HSU – which is its own kettel of fish – look at R Richmonds slary and perks for some REAL BIG MONEY RIP OFF –

    he’s making #9 in the state … and MUCH MORE then the GOVEN-atory ?? and why is that again … talk about hedlund (sp? = I’m trying) — and GREEd – ha ha ha Rollen makes him look like a piker and he’s LEGALLY doing it!

    But back on point — why does Arcate now in the middle of addpoting the most stringent grow policy in California? BECAUSE their citizans don’t rely on it for $$$.

    some where down this message you talk about ‘college kids’ —

    and you also talk about “SO HUM” like those are the major growers – or that is what people expcet are the major growers – its something we all bought into – – I’ve SEEN the major growers and the smaller growers and the every day every year groers – and Rose its “US” = the locals do MUCH more then the so hum guys or the Arcata kids …

    Hell their HIPPIES for gawds sakes – they can’t get up early and do anything – let along grow MONDO pot – it takes a work ettich instaled Red neck to grow decently .. or do anything …

    here’s an other ‘tell’ …

    Paul ran on one thing – we watched that frist election with much amusement – Paul (a long time freind) and Terry (a longer time friend) going at it – Paul seemed to my wife and I going to BLOW it – he was like some idiot repeating the same thing!

    If you have any of those old debates on VCR (I do) play them – I do now and then just to see if what I saw was real it was so amazing!

    A question would be asked. Terry would answer it very well and articulate and make sence.

    Paul would start to answer it – then ‘somehow’ drift back REALLY QUICK to the “and if I’m ellected I’ll put in the 100 sq ft 99 plants 1,500 watt guideline”

    We thought he was nuts – HOW COULD HE WIN BEING THAT DAMN BLATENT???

    is what we thought – he (Paul) was smarter then the rest of us – this was BEFORE Saltsman – miller and that bunch was sicophant-ing him …

    Paul KNEW / he saw though that dissociation or enough of it to KNOW – that Humboldt was MJ (now MMJ) and when alone in the voiting booth – everyone (or most) would vote with their wallet in Humboldt. Realstate ageints – land owners – et al — everyone REMEMBERED how GOOD it was in the 1970-80’s up here – and with BIG GUIDELINES it would bring that back ..

    How true is that? — I don’t know — I do know that at Terry’s fund rasiers I’d see LOTS of people (good local people, with businesses engenering and sales or what ever) with that “knowing look” and say “Ya were here for Terry – but get them back at home or in their businesses and “jaw jack’ with them – and you’d hear “Terry ain’t got a chance – everyone is going to vote for Paul – we LOVE Terry but Paul’s better for the county …” with a wink and a nod …

    That’s why poor old Dykman never had a snowballs chance – it wasn’t stalsman (Paul had dumped him by then … for acting like he was above it all – and being stupid – Paul is really ethical – like you or I am – coming from what he belives is right …

    He dissociates stuff just like you or I do and sees though some too .. when you hear something from some one you trust as a freind – you go “hum that maybe true … ”

    I think (now that he’s been around – and this “new breeze” has blown threw humboldt – he may be MORE ethical then past (dare I say it) DA’s? Because as they said in the Pink House – across the street from the BIG GREEN HOUSE ..

    “Problem with Paul is he won’t stay bought”

    — meaning people kick huge campaign donations and MOST of them expext something down the line – like old guard Erueka or the new money like Arkely .. and Paul just picks his own check up when he goes to lunch with you …

    Hum thats one thing – Terry and the old gaurd used to and STILL let me pick up the tab … all i have to say is “I’ve got it” and they go “thanks!”

    but the new guys (and gals) they are SUPPER TIGHT about who pays for lunch and who got what – and drop enough to cover it and their part of the tip – often just asking for seprate checks out front.

    As I say I’m freinds with “both sides” (if you can call it that = sides) of Humboldt – and the new elected people – are much more aware of who is buying lunch or drinks and reporting campaign donations – contrib’s then the other side … being a legit buisness we donate to both (shuuu) and know both sides – and i tell you – it always blows my mind when we’re out – the “old locals” let you pick up the check – the new politicans never will!

    I don’t know if that means anything … but its something to observe … and note …

    But – I am not the right person to weigh in on this. I admit I do not have any idea of the land deals you are talking about. Alot of the people I knew who bought land truly were into the back to the land movement – and not dope, They wanted to build their own house, live off the land, off the grid. It was a source of pride, one of the cool things about the hippie movement – that was brought down by drugs. Naive? Yeah. But it was a do your own thing time, and you didn’t care alot about what your neighbor was doing because that was his trip.

    2/08/2008 11:45 PM

    Like i say your doing several things again in the above which makes the point I’m saying.

    a.) I’m not talking about ‘back to land transplants’ I’m talking about locals

    b.) who the F* sold that land to the “transplants and weren’t looking what your neghbor was doing”
    (funny I knew what MY negbors were doing – all of them – they’d show me – and we had diner together – maybe your not soical – I don’t know – I know and meet and greet my neghbors – and want to know them and asume they want to know me …

    local or transplant – grower or what ever … and in so hum – people would go over to each others homes there too – I’d go down to freinds homes and everyone was talking about their crop this year – and such …

    and locals would take me out and show me their green house or the husband and or kids would be “in the woods” or “out on our peice on the woods”

    “its getting about that time you know – can’t leave it alone”

    “got to get it in you know – don’t plant its self”
    what ever – hubby was gone – then the family would be gone (trimin’)

    — maybe you didn’t know about the land deals – but where do you think all that land was cut up – and by whom and why ???

    and / or

    “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”

    right – and now its ‘safe’ to talk about Steve-o or speculate about who is backing Paul and for what reason …

    years of dissociation – like some slightly repressed memories of some kind of constant abuse comes flooding to the surface —

    and its like “OH Paul is bad” – knee jerk ..

    Nope I don’t think he’s BAD or GOOD – just another Jerk doing his job – is that BETTER then the last Jerk that was in there (sorry Paul and Terry = your not ‘jerks’ i’m using that in the “every man” sence)

    — just another person doing there job

    But I do think it COMEN for law enforcment to dissociate for LOCAL transgression of the law – then if it was an outsider .. and if it was a MONEIED local – well then for get it – – they walked with NO charges – right out of the PD station .. just held them long enough to sober up …

    and THAT is what I guess pissed me off about the whole Sherri Moore thing – and brought me to thinking out of this ‘fog’ of “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.” like the old days were diffreint …

    In about 2001 I got a call from a friends wife saying “gawds DW is at it again and he’s got a gun”

    – the man is dead so I can talk about it I guess

    His wife had called a tennet who was passed due on rent – DW ‘had a few’ (he just died recently of alcohoism related disorders which weren’t discused at the furnal untill one (youngish) old boy got up – as everone was invited to speak who wanted to) “I don’t think there is anyone in this room who isn’t pissed a DW for being such an ass!” …

    dissociation in action – up untill then everyone was acting like “oh the poor man and he was so young – struck down in his prime” (for Fucks sake everyone knew the man was drinking himself to death and would let NO ONE do anything about it … )

    Okay back to that evening in 2001 …

    I get a call from his wife – frantic and very up set – seems as I put together the story – he had been drinking – fell asleep on the couch – and she had called the tennet – somehow he heard this and lifted the phone and found out that the tennet was being ‘verblibly abusive’ (shall we say) to his wife …

    DW grabs a gun jumps in his car drives 20 minutes to Eureka – and pulls up to the apartments he and a “Big Green House” person own … stagers in to the comen area where he starts kicking a dog that was braking at him …

    Next he goes up to the tennet who had been veribliiy abusvie to his wife on the phone and refused to pay the rent –

    and pulls out the gun – and says “you have 10 minutes to get your crap out of MY apartment or I’ll blow your brains out”

    (now you can belive this story or not – I sware that it is totall 100% true)

    EPD shows up because then – because a neghbor had called them when DW was still kicking the dog … before the gun pulling … he was ID-‘ed because he was the land lord – so they knew his name and who it was ..

    the EPD see the car (late modle caddy) and the HAT (with his business name across it which is also HIS name and say “Oh you must be DW?”

    now this guy is DRUNK and raving – and with a WEPON …

    and they / BUT THEY don’t DO anything – they don’t soround the building – they don’t call out swat …

    why? cause he owns a corp? cause he has a hat with the corp name on it?

    what happened?

    Well I thought it was the end – but nope – I found this all out – at 12AM when DW shows up at my door step – the EPD had kept him did NOT EVEN BOOK HIM … just let him sit there until 12 – and asked him if he wanted a ride or a call – he said “Nope I have a freind who lives a few blocks away” … (we lived in a place by old town then) … and there he was bold as brass saying “take me home – I’m going to get another gun and finish this!”

    — or something totally as inaine ..


    as to the wepon?

    HE WAS TOLD “come by monday and pick it up”

    his attitued? “hell its a cheap peice of junk I thought I may have to toss it I didn’t bring any of my good guns with me!”

    — and he said this to the PD …

    my wife and I sobbered him up – and gave him some ‘ocupational therpy” (had him do some house work – of a kind)

    and then in the afternoon – took him back to the seen – he was sober – the EPD was called again – but it was the RENTERS who took the brunt … not the ‘local 2nd gen businss owner’ …

    So when Paul’s campaign slogne says “Equle Justice under the Law” it may be touching something deep in all of humboldt – that know …

    We have NOT had this for a long time – and as a theripst will take abuse from a clinet who is projecting their old ‘bagage’ on them … so maybe some of this “high standard” your holding Paul too Rose or anyone who is so upset with him …

    Is just decominstating for YEARS OF .. being sick of having to dissociate and say …

    “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.”

    what was going on was KNOWN .. we all knew – we all have freinds locals who were getting away (quite litterly) with murder – back in the day …

    and no one was rasing an eye brow —

    everyone was looking the other way —

    compair and contrast —

    back then it was called the “VD by the sea”
    (aka The Vista-del-mar)

    the most roudy bar on the coast of california …

    turn turn turn 10 years and it was a ‘fern bar’

    turn turn turn 10 more and now what is it – their worried about if the signage is going to pass the code!!

    I don’t know how that repersents the current state of affairs in anayogly but somehow to me it does …

    I’d be afraid to walk into the old “VD” alone with out a large freind – people who heard of it – as the ‘most roudy bar in the whole west coast’ would come up and want to see it – like it was the redwoods or something —

    I’d call freinds to come with me – a fight or 3 every night – crazy werid sex in the parking lot – …

    then 10 years later its a club for punk rock bands … artests ..

    gawds ..

    is change good? —

    is an ‘art bar’ better then the infamous meeting place of loggers and fishermen ??? (bikers et al)

    is an ‘wink wink nod nod’ old boy net – which LIVES on dissociation and “There was nothing to speak out about. What was going on was known.” as a watch word .. better then the “new boy net” which is NO NET at all

    BTW – Millers out of practics = retired … (reallY)

    Stazlsmans got a job (finally) and too tired to do much but work …

    and Steve-o is hip deep in his own allagort pond

    the BOARD OF SUPS set the limit / guidelines so high that MJ is escentally legal – going way OVER PAUl’s guidlines .. totally!

    — so bad that even LIBRAL arcata is having to lead the fight to limit them ..

    which is intreswting in its self – if you care to look at it – from the space that MAYBE Eureka and fortuna (locals) are MORE TOLLERANT to MJ then the ‘hip’ are – becaue the ‘hip’ haven’t been living in dissociation from it for so long they don’t even see it any more ..

    Just an other weird thought … ohoh my wife is up – got to go .. make brakefast and have a day with her –

    Nice having these chats with you Rose –

    again i have NO IDEA how right I am about the where fors — but I do know my FACTS are 100% right on …

  159. Anonymous
    February 9, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Rose said…
    I guess I ought to add that my concern here was Schectman and his access to the DA;s office and his hypocrisy.

    Aside from campaign funding and support – I did not see this as involving Paul. He does just seem to have horrible judgment when it comes to who he surrounds himself with…

    again — Steve-o hasn’t been around Gag’s (chuckle) for quite sometime. He was BROKE and the ‘play” for gag’s didn’t work. In fact Gag’s screwed ALL the “pot attonrys’ big time by addopting his guidelines ..

    then the Board of Sups put the last nail in their coffens – with THEIR LARGER guidlines ..

    as to ‘people he srounds him self with – see my other posts with the steller people Terry and Renner hung with how about Bern DePaulie? – great bucnh he had around him – where where the ETL then – the ‘watch terry’ the ‘watch burney’ people?

    what were you doing about all this at 20 Rose? – or your folks .. just ‘taking it’ and playing with the rest of us .. I guess …

    Steve-o and his bro-s are out of work in Humboldt (basicly) everyone knows law enforcment and p215 people alike what the limits are. And really what Law Enforcment has time to bother with it with?

    so Steve-o was out ‘ambulance chasing’ for work – that was the last time I saw or heard from him … running around leaving cards with everyone who’d take one saying “if you know anyone with MJ problems have them call me.” (he said it in some ‘save the poor mj person way” but same thing …

    I also heard he was runing to the pot shops telling them that he could set up them in some ‘leagl’ way to get past the feds or something – the people I knwo told him to ‘spin’ if his ideas were that good – how come he wasn’t using them – I do know he was tring to get a high price tag from the medical groups (p215) up here .. most all told him to get lost …

    Perditory attonys abound — in fact I’ve seen cases that could have been dismissed kept alive by the attonires them selves – just to keep some work on the fire ..

    amazing .. .

    So bottom line = NOPE I don’t feel that Paul would see doller ONE from anything that Steve-o cooked up or had pushed on him … nor Hedlund …

    Steve-o was running with a HARD AND FAST crowed down in LA … thought he was so slick that he could talk his way out of it – after all he speaks flunet spainsh and is married to a cuban – knowning Steve-o by the time he found him self ass deep in it – he just thought of it as another way to ‘chalnge himself’ see how ‘good he was’ … or what ever ..


    But yeah – I agree with what you are saying – in order to forfeit a million in cash AND the properties, how much cash are we talking about, and WHERE did it come from?

    YUPERS YUPERS YUPERS — dat’ ain’t no p215 local kids money – nor even old boy money there – hell most of the old boys I know are so ‘spread out’ that theey finance everything – day to day work projects – and these are the BIGGEST builders in the county – and (ahum) many of them had ..

    never mind – but to finance something like this =

    1/2 a mill for the one peice
    what did the Bezerlkly property cost?
    — what were the payments for that and the one above MONTHYLY?

    — and just the lights! = 100K dump on just the lights – let alone the exust systems and fliters ..


    and talk about “out to lunch” —

    NONE OF THIS WAS DONE WITH THE MENITON – not one – of P215!!!

    = there was NO WAY that Paul could have been thought of in this plan one way or another – period – it was totally OUT LAW (besides totally stupid!)

    I saw it – at the Board of sups – and just about Bust a gut – thinking “what the F* were these idiots doing – Oh Steve-o he don’t grow – but he don’t skin cat either – gawds – what itiots did this ..

    who or what told who or what GROUP (look at it – and tell me that this was one Hedland person? = gawds it was like the bulb farm!!! = hoop houses by the acer!! = really go look at the imagess = 4 homes built …

    some kind of mex_ grow or “pot is totally legal” or people from gawds knows where doing this – and it wasn’t “out way out in the woods’ it was a stones toss from Blue Lake – any plane flying over ..

    anyway I can NEVER express my shock at the TOTAL LAMENESS of this grow ..

    total IDIOT must have done it –

    the only thing I’ve seen like it
    is a PRO flower farm (like the Bulb farm in arcata or production green houses in southern cal!!!) —

    it was insain –

    as I said I KEPT wating for the p215 contection to come out – some how – that some club or clubs from LA would show up to tsetify —

    knowing how Steve-o was so INTO being legal … and all (really = last talk as I say YEARS ago say 2005?)

    And, I guess I never thought about how much grow lights cost That is a lot! Flex your power man! The rest of us are all getting lectures about cutting our energy consumption, and being penalized for running an extra load of laundry and then you have these guys…

    2/09/2008 12:02 AM

    Yup – several things come to mind …

    one is ‘how many people served’ – and then ‘at what price’ — another words – lets say this was for sick people

    (which it wasn’t = oh christ – here’s another “JOKE” or STUPID GROWER TRICKS in this … Bezerlkly has an ORADANCE – under which Hedland could have put in the same thing LEGALLY! – if Steve-o was driving the ‘truck’ so to speak legally – one would think – as there are TONS of legal clubs down there – a link would show up – BPA – (berk patient allaince) is one of the oldest on going clubs in the state (I think that is there name – there owner is a (suppoidly) compassionte guy who heads the largest org. of patients reights advocates .. ASA … Americna’s for safe access …

    The feds busted the satlight club in LA of the BPA (like I say I belive that is there name) and found 1,500 in there bank account – some people are in it for compasson – and also treat it like a ligit business – which if you know anything about – is usally broke .. (he he he) .. and livng on a shoe string budget —

    the feds looked sort of SILLY after that bust – we’ll see if it goes any where – that ‘seased a bank account” and found 1,500 and the books totally in order = sounds like they made an “oups” to me .. when most of the ones they bust have LOTS of money around and ‘items’ (new cars et al)

    — anyway — FYI to put this inpersepcitive there are about 1,000 clubs in Cal right now – how many are good – how many are bad? = I don’t know –
    I do know the ones that get busted – ‘strangely’ have gang or big money tie ines – 99% of the time – the only “good guy” clubs that seem to get hit (about 3 so far) all have VERY VOCAIL activests leading them –
    its as if these people – because they are running an honest shop for the right reasons – feel they are safe to speak out —
    (you want the names of ‘good guy clubs’ busted?
    = Wamm (free to sick patients – but big on the press)
    = Lacbc (90% Hiv – no time for anyone involved – all involved made less then middle class salyeres and life stlyes – again bust right after a BIG TIME MAG peice on them )
    = now the LA satilight of BPA – again no chargers – that I am aware of – but the head of it is also head of ASA – largest bla bla bla …

    Kind of looks like even IF your runing a stight arrow – pay your taxes take care of the sick and poor – you still can’t go public with it –

    I think of it as “no ask no tell” rules …

    as to the % of good vs. bad (high profit clubs) I look at how many busts the DEA is doing = and that is way less then 10% … of the clubs around …

    dose that mean that only 10% are doing too high profits? I don’t know – I also know that most DEA busts are broguth in by the locals … someone complans ..

    okay – so compair and constrast – legal vs illegal

    this is an inresting item also ..

    when the ATF comes around looking for sales of tobaccco to minors – they bust about 1/2 the places up here – last round … was in Fortuna as I recall 11 of the 20 or so places that sell smokes (tobacco) and chew – sold to the undercover ‘kid’ – and got a ‘ding’

    — just thought that was intresting that 10% of the ‘pot clubs’ get busted – yet about 50% of the ‘legal’ tobacco places do NOT pass muster!

    — I imagine this is because of the HUGE ‘ding’ one gets if they don’t pass the p215 muster … vs. a slap on the wrist as in the case of tobaco!

    — just musing

    oh back to who is served – and do they pay taxes = are they good citaizns ..

    I think more then anything that should be the ‘tell’ not their engery use

    ie the Bulb farm runs LIGHTS and has HUGE PG&E bills – they have 1000s of lights going out there – drive by at night – loooks like flying suser landing port!

    — do we need ‘cut flowers’? — is it ecology sound to have? Is the Blub farms contrubution to socity more or less then all the grow hosues in humboldt?

    — I’ve heard about pesticeds too – biggest user is HSU I belive and also don’t for get the Bulb farm —

    (oh yes they did try ONE line of orgainc flowers – no one would pay the price – so they went back to their chemi ways the next year – but it was gredat pr that they still trade off on)

    — anyway again — who is served by the Bulb farm KW’s & pesticed use?

    are the workers paid a living wage?

    do they get health insurance?

    (heck are they documented?)

    now compair and contrast all the grow houses in Humboldt – where is that money going? …

    where who why Hedlend – and the engery use

    I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong – I’m just saying things that make ME go “hum?” in the night …

    stuff that runs though my mind when I hear “oh those growers use so much engery” — like you just did …

    my fav_ is the one about “does asprin take that much to make?”

    (well yes Cindy (or in this case Rose) that would be a whole nother peice on Bayer – the #2 worst poluter in the world — worst corp — worst on everyones scales …

    But hay – its much more fun to try to tie in Paul and Steve-o then look at that – or be “SHOCKED”

    “OH Im SHOCKED!!! there is gambling going on here Ric!”

    “yes sir where do you want your winnings?”

    — casablanca …

    be SHOCKED at PG&E use by Hedlund vs. being told to watch your dryer useage – vs. like I say count the lights at the blub farm – and tell me again what they are doing “good” for the eco system – and how we need them??? — vs. need a creepy fool like hedlend making MJ look badder then it does to anyone?

    — so how many people (sick people) served – in how small a space – and for how little money – and how much is the staff making?

    — that is what I’d ask – to ‘rate’ a place ..

    and I wouldn’t listen to anyone who don’t open up there books – which is more then say the Bulb farm would do – let along rollen richmond – but those are other things …

    have many nice days …

  160. February 9, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    pot ripoffs are nothing new…..you newcomers had better get used to it…..i would estimate that ripoffs get at least 10x the amount of plants that the cops get……..

    it grows back!!!!! dont sweat it!!! buy some more lights and clones and get working!!!!

    what happened to the humboldt of old? why has it turned into a bunch of young mafia type growers who have turned humboldt into a corporate weed machine……..ive always had a place in my heart for mom and pop growers trying to live a good life and raise good kids and develop homesteads, but humboldt county has changed for the worse….what ever happened to living simply?

  161. Beowulf
    February 9, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Theo, you keep posting the same lame comments. Do you think you are convincing anyone with repiticious, ad nauseum attempt at rhetoric?

  162. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 10, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Theo, I must agree with Beowolf. Your posts are laughable! Who are you dude!? What are you thinking!?

    I realize now that you are either too dumb, or too cowardly, to ever have a rational debate, about anything, ever!

    What is the point of arguing when your words are meaningless!? Theo!

    So, just for the record everybody, this is what Theo thinks, according to his own words:

    If you grow pot, you should not only accept the fact that you will be robbed, but imbrace the idea as well. When you do get robbed, you shouldn’t complain, or think it’s wrong that someone robbed you, or want the theives to ever confess their wrong doings and return to you what’s your’s! NO! That would actualy make sense, that would be the MORALLY RIGHT way to think, feel, and the right thing for those theives to do!

    Instead, think like Theo (hey, that has a nice ring to it)…Suck it up, forget how much time, money, energy, and risk you invested, and just go buy some more lights and clones with all the money and pot the thieves TOOK! Then happily replant. Who knows, you might even be lucky enough to get robbed again.

    Theo, you’re done dude! It’s like they say, “When you’re in a hole, stop digging!”

    But, if you’re going to respond again, please, I BEG YOU give me, and the rest of us something good to chew on, let us taste it. No more of your 0 calorie diet drinks. They really taste bad, GUY!

    By the way, seeing as your the head of the Federal Speller’s Violation Unit, spell check this for me, will you, man!?

    Always the last word, PP

  163. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 10, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    And Rose, should The Freedom Riders have not expected justice for the horrible beatings they incured, just because what they were doing was illegal?

    Don’t you agree that it is morally right to break a law, if that law is unjust. Marijuana prohibition is morally reprehensible. Therefore, it is right to grow, and wrong to steal. Stealing is stealing. Bottom line. Your argument is non sequitor.

    Anon, just because they don’t print the Bible on hemp anymore, doesn’t mean God’s prohibition against stealing has evaporated! Got it!?

    I can’t believe all you silly little monkeys on here!? Ever hear of something called, ‘critical thinking’?


  164. February 10, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    if a person grows pot, he or she should assume that it may be stolen, that is absolutely true………

    i cant think of too many growers who EMBRACE being ripped off, as you say, but 100% of growers regard ripoffs as a potential problem…….

    ……to think otherwise is naive, or just careless, especially given the fact that harvesting the crop is SO important that it is likened to being put “in a hole” and being “done for”………..if harvesting was THAT important to one’s income, why one earth wouldnt they protect the crop with their life? i dont get that…

  165. Beowulf
    February 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    Theo, people who own cars know they may be stolen the but that does not make it right. People who steal are losers with no talent that cannot succed otherwise. Your argument is lame, try again Theo.

  166. February 10, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    who ever said that stealing was the “right” thing to do?? i personally detest thieves……..

    that said, i know that my pickup may be stolen, so to prevent that from happening, i lock the doors and install an alarm system….

  167. Beowulf
    February 10, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    And sometimes, despite those precautions and many more thieves still suceed. Thieves should be denounced whatever they steal whether it be cash or property, whether they hide behind masks and guns or fountain pens and fraudulent dealings. Stealing is antisocial and hurts our community; I am glad that you “detest thieves.”

  168. February 10, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Oh, c’mon Beow, you have to admit it is kinda funny when the guy goes to the cops crying’ about being robbed and then has to tell them that it was his pot plants that were stolen… But that is kinda like talkin’ about record players, it’s fast becoming so much the norm that alot of people don’t remember that that in itself was once a big deal. Now you have the opposite, almost.

  169. February 10, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    i think that beowulf should start a pot insurance business…growers can take out policies depending on how many plants they have and how likely they are to get ripped off…………..he will have to decide whether or not to reimburse policyholders who overwater, underwater, overfertilize or kill their plants in some other way…..

  170. Beowulf
    February 11, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Rose, I am sure you realize you are one among a tiny and shrinking minority that thinks pot ought to be illegal. Or have you said on your blog that you think it should be legal? Regardless, most rational people came to the conclusion long age that marijuana use is not intrinsically immoral and should be a private choice open to any free individual. Stealing, in contrast is universally abhored; in fact do the local sheriffs not make apprehension of pot theives a top priority?
    Theo: you should start a rape role-playing insurance business in case any misunderstandings arise during said role-playing.

  171. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 2:31 am

    I am sure you realize you are one among a tiny and shrinking minority that thinks pot ought to be illegal.

    Maybe in Humboldt County and teens in general. As for everyone else, recheck your stats.

  172. Truthiness
    February 11, 2008 at 6:24 am

    I think it is funny that people are posting the same things over and over again on these message boards. How many times will the anonymous poster circulate the story about the old man in Marin? I don’t know if it is true, but what do you have to gain by posting this story over and over again? Was he your grandfather?

    This is obviously a big story in HC, but these message boards are clearly becoming a place for people with “axes to grind” to air their personal issues in anonymity. I think anyone with information about wrongdoings should take it to the authorities and stop the gossip.

    In many ways this is a tragedy for the community and lots of people are suffering. Where is your compassion?

  173. February 11, 2008 at 7:37 am

    Yeah, Beow, I have said that I am amazed that this generation didn’t make pot legal as its first order of business. That it chooses the disingenuous route ( a presidential candidate who claims he didn’t inhale and 215) is really kinda cowardly.

    I’d say you’re pretty close when you can now buy joints out of vending machines at the same time cigarettes are locked in wire cages and Pepsi is being banned from schools. Bizarre, that’s all.

  174. tad
    February 11, 2008 at 7:49 am

    Peace be with you Rose

    The harmful effects of both “Pepsi” and “cigarettes” are more severe then pot is. I wasn’t able to buy Pepsi or any soda pop at my school.

    Also as someone who has fished Marinol pills out of my loved one’s puke I don’t have the same views about marijuana that you might.

    love eternal

  175. Truthiness
    February 11, 2008 at 7:56 am

    I am with you all the way on that, Tad.

  176. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 8:09 am

    Cigarettes kill thousands of people every year as does obesity and diabetes which soft drinks loaded with corn syrup causes. While I wouldn’t advocate kids using pot, there hasn’t been a single case of anyone dying from smoking or ingesting it.

  177. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 8:12 am

    But a president who was a well known coke head is just fine, right Rose? Aren’t you just as amazed that he didn’t legalize cocaine?

  178. February 11, 2008 at 8:25 am

    A 25 cent per can city tax on soft drinks would raise the City of Eureka two million dollars a year and discourage the consumption of artificial sweeteners and HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup.)

    Consumption of sweet soft drinks is increasingly linked to obesity.

    Have a peaceful day,

  179. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 8:34 am

    Taxes to discourage children from consuming harmful substances? Increasing the taxes on cigarettes didn’t stop them from smoking. They shouldn’t have access to any dangerous products at school. No pot, no cigarettes, no alcohol, no candy, and no soft drinks. PERIOD!

  180. February 11, 2008 at 8:38 am

    Well then if taxes on cigarettes don’t deter smoking lets get rid of them. As a smoker I would be down for that.

    Have a peaceful day,

  181. February 11, 2008 at 8:58 am

    Let’s be honest about one thing. Democrats and Republicans and independents alike need to get out of denial. No matter what, taxes are going to go up. Local government is broke, state government is broke and federal government is broke.

    No one is going to vote to seriously cut back on government services, and borrowing is becoming too expensive.

    The multidimensional toast is buttered on too many sides.

  182. justwonder
    February 11, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Was just wondering after finding this site if anyone has google searched this Hedlund guy. Looks like he goes to trial in Oakland soon and he “buddy” Tageson due to be sentenced soon. Sort of makes a person wonder.

  183. tad
    February 11, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Peace be with you Bill

    “No matter what, taxes are going to go up.”

    I disagree with you in that with a substantial egalitarian reform in multi-culturalism, economic, and land and resource ownership taxes could even be a thing of the past. If you ain’t got no leaders then you don’t got no leaders to feed.

    But in “the real world,” as boxed thinkers would have us believe, you’re 100% right.

    love eternal

  184. Beowulf
    February 11, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Truthiness said: “in many ways this is a tragedy for the community and lots of people are suffering.” Well you are telling the truth about that at least. That is probably why there are so many post on the subject.
    “Where is your compassion?” My compassion lies with the victims of crimes not the perpetrators.
    “How many times will the anonymous poster circulate the story about the old man in Marin? As far as I can see the anonymous poster only posted that story once. It is illustrative of Hedlund’s lack of character and compassion for others.
    “Was he (the old man) your grandfather?” Are you saying we should only have compassion for our immediate family?
    “These message boards are clearly becoming a place for people with “axes to grind” to air their personal issues with anonymity. I think anyone with information about wrondoings should take it to the authorities.” Yes people with “issues” are speaking out anonymously, people like Rose and Heraldo (and even you truthiness). They are taking there issues to no less an authority than the public at large. Obviously, it really burns you up that people are talking about Josh Hedlund. In the future anyone he approaches with a bussiness “deal” will be able to google him and read these blogs. Then they can decide for themselves what they think is true and who is trustworthy.

  185. anon.
    February 12, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Tell us about the others involved and their punishments.

  186. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Truthie-boy, are you still on here, still spewing the same dumb-ass shit!? Charging others with repeating themselves, while being guilty of the same crime yourself!? You crack me up dude! Can’t you see, the game is up! You’re wrong! You’ve lost the debate. Just admit it, give up, go home and do some rape roll play with Josh so he can get ready for prison life!

    It should go without saying, but apparently some of you ding-dongs still need it spelled out for you!

    1.) We all have a right to post, anonymously, or not if we so choose! So please let that one go. You sound like a broken record! Besides, YOU’RE posting anonymously! Ever hear the word, hypocrite!?

    *And I’m amazed that we must continue to explain the issue of stealing and it’s inherent wrongness!

    So ROSE, TRUTHINESS, and all you other kooks, please listen up!

    2.) Stealing is wrong. Got it!? No ROSE, it’s not funny at all when pot growers get robbed, just like it wasn’t funny when Hitler burned books because they were ILLEGAL! Just like it wasn’t funny when women and blacks couldn’t vote. Just like it wouldn’t be funny if someone broke into your house and stole your pirated copies of dvd chick movies. Those pirate copies are illegal, but stealing is stealing. OK!? Do you get it now!? Geez!

    3.) THEO: Just because one takes precautions against thieves, and accepts the fact that they might be robbed, IN NO WAY MEANS THAT STEALING IS OK, OR THAT ONE SHOULD ACCEPT IT AS SUCH!

    *Theo – answer this: do you know Josh, if so, what is your relationship to him, and why are you so obviously defending him!? Come clean if you have any balls at all!

    Before we can put this silly mess to rest, I want to hear Truthiness and Rose admit the TRUTH, that stealing is wrong no matter what and thieves should be exposed and pressured to right their wrongs and change their ways. The health and well being of our society depends on your admission and support! Please, in the name of all that is right, join us!

    Porfiry Petrovich will not rest, nor will he let fools have the last word. He will keep attacking you cowards until you clearly admit that any kind of stealing is wrong.

    Now’s your chance, what’s it gonna be?

    ~ PP

    “With out God, anything is possible”

    ~ Fyodor Dostoyevsky

  187. February 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    stealing is a virtue…i do it everytime i get a chance…….some people are easier to steal from than others…..something tells me that porfiry is an easy target…….

    porfiry? are your plants almost ready to harvest? ill be coming soon!!!

  188. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 12, 2008 at 6:47 pm


    I do appreciate sarcasm and good humor. Right o’ good chap!

    Actualy, I’m not a grower, seriously, no joke. I’d be happy to admit to you (and everyone else on here) if I was growing. But you’d needn’t steel from me if I was, because PP is the kinda guy that would just invite you over for a cold beer and some vapi hits, kick you down some personal stash for the road, just for giving him someone to argue with. Thanks, man. Seriously. You do better than Truthiness. Poor guy can’t even form a complete thought. If you know the guy, maybe you can help him out. Encourage him to go back and finish high school…I think he cut class too much during the critical thinking unit in English class.

    Keep it up, man.

    I look forward to our next verbal joust.

    ~ Honorably, PP

  189. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 12, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    If I was a grower, and you were to come nape my plants, would Josh be with you? Or do you shun that sort of company?

    ~ PP

  190. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 12, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    Jah Jah Knows Our Souls!

  191. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm


    I know you were joking about stealing being a virtue, and PP being an easy target. But the stubborn ol’ detective couldn’t resist trying to sound a little cool, a little like a tough guy. Your humor has softened Sherlock up, so here he goes…

    If PP was a grower, and a thief did try his spot, it would be an easy take, well, aside from the .357 magnum rounds that’d pierce the thieve’s leggs and stomach, before they were dragged into the basement for torture and interogation by Dr. Watson.

    ~ Elementary my dear, PP :-)

  192. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 13, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Theo, Truthi:

    Both of you have yet to answer all the detective’s questions.

    The light is on, the tape is rollin’, PP waits to hear who and what you know, what you think, and what you plan to do about it.

    Please come forward with your testimony, gentlemen.

    ~ Patiently, PP

  193. Anonymous
    February 15, 2008 at 8:45 am

    Did Josh have to pay for all the damage he did to the Benbow golf course?????

  194. Beowulf
    February 15, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Say haha good question.

  195. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 15, 2008 at 11:46 am


    PP wishes to acknowledge an error he made in one of his recent blogs concerning a comment about Ben’s “younger brother Paul”. PP was in fact wrong about this, as Ben has no younger brother Paul. PP confused Ben with someone else.

    Ben: Please accept my apologies.

    Thanks to those who caught this error and brought it to my attention.

    ~ PP

  196. Kite Downed by Lonetree
    February 16, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    Hey, did anybody hear about the massive bust in Mendocino?

    You can read about it in the Press Democrat or the Ukiah Daily Journal.

    This just in: Josh Lonetree Hedlund’s buddy and family friend, Kite Finds the Feather (you can’t make up names like that), got popped with 270+ lights, 100lbs, and a 350KW and 400KW generators!!! Holy shit, that’s phat! Hummm… . It’s really strange that Josh JUST made his plea bargin at the begining of Feb., and then low and behold a couple weeks later his friend (or should I say business partner?) gets busted. Hummmmm….I wonder if the property was controlled by an LLC set up by Josh… . Josh is the Anti-Midas, anything he touches turns to SHIT!

    Watch for upcoming busts in Mendo. and Hum. Cos. as Josh frantically tries to save his scrawny little, pretty-boy ass at any cost.

    Looks like the Lonetree has contracted Sudden Oak Death Disease. Hope it doesn’t spread too far.

    Stay tuned folks, this mess ain’t over yet!

  197. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 17, 2008 at 3:55 am

    “Mighty mouse turds, Batman! I’ve never seen a set-up like Kite’s! I’ve been wrong before, but this whole thing looks like the work of Josh and his sinister gang!”

    “Will there ever be peace and justice in Gotham again, Batman!?”

    “I don’t know Robin, I just don’t know.”

    Guess we’ll have to “tune” in next time, same Bat channel, same Bat time!

  198. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 17, 2008 at 3:56 am

    “Mighty mouse turds, Batman! I’ve never seen a set-up like Kite’s! I’ve been wrong before, but this whole thing looks like the work of Josh and his sinister gang!”

    “Will there ever be peace and justice in Gotham again, Batman!?”

    “I don’t know Robin, I just don’t know.”

    Guess we’ll have to “tune” in next time, same Bat channel, same Bat time!

  199. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 20, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Keep the Hedlund thread alive with questions, information, debate, and ideas.

    Any news, thoughts, speculations, updates on the Kite bust!?

    Please come forward.

    PP is concerned

  200. Jane Doe
    February 20, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Are you right and Hedlund wrong, PP?

  201. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 20, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    Oh Jane. Do you know anything of which you speak?

    Am I “right” about what? Is Hedlund “wrong” about what?

    More Jane, we must have more Jane, if we are to get anywhere, with anything, ever!

    Haven’t you learned this by now?

    PP is puzzled

  202. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 20, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    “This really is starting to look more and more like Penguin’s sinister work, Batman.”

    “I know Robin, I know.”

    “If Josh is cooperating with the feds to reduce his sentence, it would only make sense they’d give him time between his plea and sentencing to turn over FInds the Feather, Batman.”

    “Good work Robin. But one thing still puzzles me.”

    “What’s that Batman!?”

    “If Josh is behind this whole thing, why no denials about Kite’s bust. Those were pretty harsh accusations, especially for someone as concerned with his reputation as Josh is!”

    “Right again Batman, right again!”

    Batman and Robin head back to the Batcave for more research.

    Guess we’ll have to tune in next time… .

  203. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 21, 2008 at 5:17 pm


    Were did you go?

    We were having so much fun together.

    I miss you.

  204. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 21, 2008 at 7:58 pm


    Don’t leave me!

    I don’t know what I’d do without you!


  205. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 21, 2008 at 8:00 pm


  206. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 23, 2008 at 1:57 pm


    PP is lonely :-(

  207. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 24, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    I guess this thread is still alive, if only with PP’s comments :-)

    Call me silly, call me obsessed. I’ve been called worse.

  208. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 25, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Clickin’, typin’, just to keep this thread up!

  209. February 25, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Seems Jane is more interested in development and planning issues, Porfiry. Rather fascinating, actually.

  210. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 26, 2008 at 2:28 am

    Yeah, I suppose I should leave Jane alone with my teasing, eh? :-) I just couldn’t resist tryin’ to get her goat a little bit. All in good fun.

    It’s so gracious of you to humor me and respond though, help keep this thread alive. I don’t feel quite so lonely thanks to you Rose :-)

    PP Smiles

  211. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 26, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Desperately seeking more thread to complete the official, “Victims of Hedlund Quilt.” Ya know, kinda like the AIDS Quilt.

  212. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 28, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Anybody hear what Hedlund’s up to now!?

    A little birdie told me Josh is hosting a private, invite only real estate seminar at Baywood on March 6th.


    Make a plea bargin, lesuirely await sentencing, and while you’re at it hold a real estate seminar!

    Wonder what topics and issues Hedlund will cover at his seminar…? Environmental sustainability, ethics in business, cohersion, how to rob customers if they don’t do what you want… . The possibilities are endless.

    Any word on this out there?

    ~ PP

  213. Anonymous
    February 28, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Correction: March 7th.

    Get your tixs now folks! It’s bound to be a good show.

  214. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 28, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Attention ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt your regularly scheduled broadcast to bring you this breaking news!

    Hedlund’s real estate seminar, scheduled for March 7th, 2008 at Baywood Country Club outside of Arcata, CA has been CANCELLED (tears, sighs of sadness).

    Below is an email correspondence between Josh Hedlund and a Mr. Michael Patrick Durkee. Though Josh doesn’t directly refer to himself by name, Mr. Durkee does.

    The email begins with Josh addressing a general email audience with news of the seminar being cancelled.

    [Josh]: “From what I am told Durkee is a good speaker, well worth hearing – and he has chosen to cancel his appearance:

    Cancellation of Patent Parcels on Resource Lands: A Landowners Perspective

    I am sorry to inform you that the event is cancelled. Unfortunately, the presenter and his law firm are concerned about being associated with me. They have agreed to do an event in the future that is unrelated to me and is on a different date. Again I am very sorry that mistakes that I have made in my personal life have interfered with my ability to host what would have been a great presentation. Below is the attached email from Mike Durkee:”

    [Mr. Durkee]: “Josh you are persistent, which is no doubt why you have done well in business!

    Your attendance is not the problem. To be blunt, because you deserve candor, the firm is rightfully concerned about the association of its name (through me) with what is clearly your Map Act/Resource Lands event, regardless of any last-minute name or sponsor changes.

    So, if a new program is set up in the future with a clearly new
    sponsor, etc. , I would be happy to teach it up in Humboldt and happy to have you in attendance.

    Josh, you seem like a great guy and not one I am trying to hurt. No doubt you have been through a lot, and have more still to go through. But the answer from my managing partner and also from my General Counsel could not be more clear: I cannot teach the class on the 7th


    Michael Patrick Durkee
    Allen Matkins Leck Gamble Mallory & Natsis LLP”

    [end of email]

    This information sheds new light on the whole Hedlund matter in that it increases the legitimacy and boosts the credibility of Josh’s critics, and further discredits those who have tried, rather weakly I might add, to defend Josh. The fact that Mr. Durkee and his firm are “rightfully concerned” about being associated with Josh, and have decided to cancel speaking at an event that is simply being hosted by Josh, says a lot. Though Mr. Durkee does explain specific reasons for his concerns, it is clear that he and his firm do not want to be “associated” with Josh and his presentation. Are Mr. Durkee and his firm concerned about being affiliated with Josh because of his guilty plea for large scale marijuana cultivation, questions about his environmental record, business ethics, accusations of having orchestrated strong-armed robberies of massive grow-ops…? All of the above? What else might Mr. Durkee know about Josh that we do not? We can infer from his comments that Mr. Durkee does not know Josh personally, and that Josh has at least made a good impression on Mr. Durkee.

    To Josh and his supporters:

    Please use this as an opportunity to come forward and tell the truth about who Josh really is, what he has and has not done, if he is remorseful, and if he has any intention or plan of righting his wrongs with people. Josh: What mistakes have you made in your personal life? What specifically do you regret? Please tell us! Going to prison is going to be hard enough, so why not at least try to make good with as many people as possible? I’m encouraging you to do the right thing here, as difficult as it may be, and try and turn your reputation around, regain some of your integrity. What else do you have to loose!? Put aside your ego, your pride and try to learn from these experiences, from your mistakes so you may become a better person in the future.

    Thank you to the person who forwarded me the email used in this comment.


  215. Beowulf
    February 29, 2008 at 12:05 am

    I wonder if Kite Finds The Feather will be invited to attend Joshee Pooh’s event. Is the whole event cancelled or just Durkee’s appearance? I was looking forward to attending; I had hoped to ask Josh for his insights into how to unsuccesfully hide assets with shell LLCs while running environmentaly damaging criminal conspiracies! I wanted to learn techniques for swindling senior citizens and for maintaining friendly relations with the IRS! Alas! Maybe he will host another event that I could attend in the future

  216. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 29, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Beo you crack me up! A good laugh is always a great way to start the day.

    From what I understand the whole event is cancelled, though I’m not absolutely certain. Maybe it’ll just be Josh trashing the golf course at Baywood. If Josh is lucky, Kite will be driving the golf cart this time :-)

    ~ PP

  217. February 29, 2008 at 10:43 am

    What are the chances we can keep this these identical comments to one thread instead of two?

  218. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 29, 2008 at 2:20 pm


    My objective in posting duplicate comments on multiple threads re: the Hedlund matter is because I strongly believe it is important to keep the Hedlund scandal alive and kicking with questions and debate. Josh Hedlund has hurt a lot of people, and is a danger to our community. It is therefore important for as many people to know what he’s up to at all times, especialy since he very well may be attempting to drag others down with him as he scrambles to save his sinking repuation. I’m also trying to push Josh and his supporters to come forward with the truth, and stop hiding like little cowards.

    Best Intentions, PP

  219. Beowulf
    February 29, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    I understand your point Heraldo. Looks like Profiry has gone a little overboard in his zeal. I agree we should only post on Hedlund in the most current Hedlund thread. What do you think PP ?

  220. Porfiry Petrovich
    February 29, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    Dear Heraldo and Beowulf:

    Thank you for kindly yet firmly steering me back on track regarding my excessive and unnecessary postings on the Hedlund matter. My passion and excitement got the best of me and I made an impulsive decision to post on multiple threads, in an unsuccessful attempt at trying to be funny. My apologies to all the readers/posters for tolerating my silly behavior. I won’t let it happen again.

    Thanks, PP

    p.s. perhaps this goes without saying Beo, but I agree- current and only one thread postings. thanx again, guy :-)

  221. Anonymous
    March 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm


  222. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 4, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    “Humm…!?” Seems like someone doesn’t have anything decent to say. Either that, or they just can’t think.

    Speak up. I can’t hear you!


  223. let you know later
    March 4, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Joshee-poo was busted for the second time while on pretrial release about a week or two before the kite bust. He got caught with over $100,000. in cash. You don’t get out of federal custody on your second violation, unless.
    Porifry Petrovich, Mr. knowitall, The intrepid Sleuth and Beowolf are all right.

  224. Beowulf
    March 4, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Josh, a man is nothing without honor. But you are less than a nothing, you are not worthy to be called man. You Josh are a vile and repugnant creature, who slinks down our streets and crawls over our hills. You are like Golem, who stole the Ring and was destroyed by his own wickedness. Did you think you could win freedom with treachery? You have won nothing; you are a loathsome and venal creature, your actions have withered and shriveled your wretched puss infected soul to a mere husk. Behind your beady little eyes, that gleam with malice, is a walnut sized brain capable only of deceit and avarice. You may have traded others for a light sentence in the temporal court. But there is a higher power and your day of reckoning is nigh. Oh wretched and mangy dog, did you think Kite would take full responsibility for your actions? No fool, you and you alone have built a prison around yourself and from this dungeon there is no escape–for as you shuffle, sneak and creep through this life your own wickedness shall follow you. You will know no rest and find no solace on this earth but misery will be your only companion, for the evildoer and the wicked are consumed by their own corruption. Josh Hedlund I spit upon you and curse your name.

  225. Anonymous
    March 5, 2008 at 6:45 am

    is it me, or doesn’t Beowolf like Josh?

  226. Jane Doe
    March 5, 2008 at 7:11 am

    There may be a little personal animosity there, but that’s just a guess.

  227. Josh Hedlund
    March 5, 2008 at 8:11 am

    If you want to get the facts right, all my documents are available online: pacer.psc.uscourts.gov
    I have never, nor will I ever, trade others for a lighter sentence. I don’t allow people to confide in me about their illegal doings, alleged or otherwise. I chose not to have information about others. I have given up a significant amount of money and land. The government is still recommending a long sentence.

    Both DEA and Humboldt County officials acknowledge that they monitor these blogs, but they get paid to do so. So who is it that posts all this misinformation?

    I have still not received a single email or phone call from you who slander and defame. My email is joshhedlund@yahoo.com and my phone number is 415-850-7118. If you have an issue call me.

    Blog administrator, you know who is posting. Please keep them to one thread and one pseudonym.

  228. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 5, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    let you know later (3/4/08, 6:33pm):

    Thank you so much for coming forward with the information regarding Josh’s getting busted with the $100K, and your speculation about why Josh is still free for the time being. Your words are a great service to us all. Thank you too for acknowledging what Sleuth, Beo, Knowitall, and PP have been saying all along. Your support is very much appreciated.

    Beowulf: your words against Josh are beautifully written, and ring with truth and righteousness. I really enjoyed reading what you had to say. It’s so sad that Josh hasn’t realized what a horrible person he is, nor has he tried to come forward and right his wrongs.

    And to JOSH: You are not fooling anyone, guy! We all know you’re a liar, a coward, a thief, a cheat, and a swindler. There is no use denying these facts any longer. Josh, you have too traded others like pawns in your game, and you know you have! Why else are you still free right now!? You seek information from people all the time about anything that can benefit you. You are well aware of illegal actions committed by others, have been, and probably still are involved in such actions yourself. Just because you’ve given up land and money doesn’t excuse all the wrongs you’ve done, and it doesn’t mean that you’re still not up to your dirty tricks like turning people in. We all know these sights are monitored, so why would you bring that up!? Are you trying to scare people away from coming forward with the truth about you out of fear that they might some how incriminate themselves!? And you have too received an email, from Rose, you filthy LIAR! She said it took forever for you to get back to her and when you did you invited her to coffee “her treat”! It’s supposed to be “my treat” guy! Please don’t try your dirty little tricks on Rose. The reason you want people to call you and email you directly is so you can try to manipulate them in private, not because you sincerely want to talk to anyone or try and right your wrongs. Besides, no one wants to talk to you or have anything to do with you because you are poison. If you were a real man, which clearly you are not, you would come forward PUBLICLY, admit ALL your wrong doings, right those you’ve wronged, and ask for forgiveness, as I’ve urged you to do on many occasions. You still have a chance Josh, so what’s it gonna be? At least stop lying to us and pretending you’re trying to make things good. Stop claiming that the accusations against you on this blog are just slander, because they’re not, they’re TRUE and you and everybody else knows it. Got it, guy!?

    Oh, and I’m just curious Josh, how is it that you got pulled over with $100K!? Are you that incompetent of a criminal?! I mean come on guy! Most people would be careful with $100K, especially if the feds were already watching them so closely. But maybe you still think you’re Superman, and that everyone else is stupid.

    JOSH: This is your chance to come forward. What’s it gonna be?

    ~ PP

  229. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 7, 2008 at 9:14 am

    “let you know later” (3/4/08):

    Are you at liberty to provide anymore details about Josh getting pulled over with the $100K?

    If so, a few questions come to mind, if you’d be so kind:

    Who pulled Josh over? Local PD, CHP, Feds?

    When and where exactly did he get pulled over?

    Thank You, PP

  230. Anonymous
    March 8, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    not at liberty right now

  231. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 10, 2008 at 2:30 am

    Fair enough.

    Thanks, PP

  232. Roger A. Niles
    March 10, 2008 at 11:27 am

    To Whom it May Concern:

    I attended a conference Mr. Hedlund hosted a couple years ago, and found him to be a rather smart and friendly chap.

    When I heard about his legal troubles I felt bad for the ol fellow. But what really got me goat was reading what all these bloody wankers are saying trying to slander the poor fellow. I don’t know Josh all that well, but I was impressed by his real estate and business knowledge and his generousity and approachability (he took a few of us out to a right fine dinner after the conference).

    When I saw Josh was asking people to contact him directly I figured I’d give the ol chap a call and see how he was holding up. I called him yesterday and found him doing quite well, all things considered. He did sound a bit stressed, a bit tired, but he assured me he was just trying to stay positive. He seemed to still have good humor about him when he commented, “at least they’re spelling my name right.”

    I do hope all the rotten things people are saying about Josh aren’t true, but if they are, I’m sure Josh will step to the right way and get things goody with all.

    It was nice chatting with you Josh.

    Hang in there ol’ chap.

    Best Regards, Roger A. Niles
    London, San Francisco

  233. Beowulf
    March 11, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Fe fi fo fum I smell the blood of a fake Englishmun! Joshee-poo are you playing make believe? Ol’ chap? Get real. Do you shop at ye olde purveyor of gentlemen’s clothes? I don’t usually point out spelling errors but when you can’t even spell your own profession (realator? are you also a mastor debator?) it makes the reader wonder.

  234. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 12, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Dear Roger:

    Are you sure you got the right number when you called Josh? What exactly did Josh say to you that swayed you in his favor and against all the hard evidence against him? Did he take you out for another nice dinner and give you a kiss goodnight? And what “conference” did you attend? Was it “How to Be a Good Bullshitter in Business,” ol chap?

    I wouldn’t hold your breath on Josh coming forward anytime soon and making things “goody.” Don’t ever recall any of my English friends using “goody” in conversation. But then again you do find Josh to be a “friendly chap.” You’ve got me in stiches ol Roger boy!

    ~ Can Never fool PP the Detective

  235. let you know later
    March 13, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    oh joshee poo where are you? Are you still denying that you were busted with over $100,000. a week before the kite bust? It’s funny how you had just submitted your motion to supress warrant on your first violation and the hearing had not even come up yet and then you mysteriously plead guilty? Your the only fool here joshee poo! You plead and gave up your friend otherwise you would be locked up right now. Karma is a bitch isn’t it? bonny doons remembers

  236. Beowulf
    March 14, 2008 at 2:12 am

    Oh, but you just don’t understand, little Joshee Poo is special and he just can’t be locked up with those big, bad, mean convicts in the Fed joint. Joshee Poo is an extraordinary person put on this earth to do special things; he is entitled after all. He was born to be a very wealthy entrepreneur-it is his destiny after all. We should all know better than to stand in the way of this brilliant tycoon, to him we are all just expendable pawns in a little game tailor made for his amusement. You must understand Josh isn’t like the rest of us-he is like super Joshee poo.

  237. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 16, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Oh Joshee-poo… .

    You don’t mind if we call you that, do you? Since no one has asked you yet I figured I’d see if it was cool, BRAU! I mean it seems to have caught on.

    But anyway… .

    Since we all know you’re probably not going to ever come forward and admit all the shitty things you’ve done, how about this: at least admit to some of them, or just one, OK? Please, pretty please with sugar and a cherry on top. Would it kill you to say that you’ve told a fib or two in your day, compromised the environment for profit, scamed someone on a real estate deal, or cheated on your wife. I mean come on dude, just fess up to something, anything… . You don’t have to admit you narced off Kite, I mean I’d understand if you didn’t want to let that cat out of the bag, but admiting a “lesser” offense wouldn’t be so bad now would it?

    Whata ya say ol pal?

    ~ PP

  238. let you know later
    March 20, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    Does anyone know if the Schmook ranch investors are still making payments to old Joshee poo? If they are they should have their heads examined. By the way I just got confirmation that Josh definetly gave up Kite, not that anyone really wondered if it was true but this comes from an insider.

  239. passing thru
    March 20, 2008 at 7:27 pm


  240. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 22, 2008 at 11:30 am

    It would be very interesting, and is very important for us to know if the Schmook investors are still making payments to Joshee-poo. Wish I had more info on this one.

    “Confirmation that Josh definitely gave up Kite”? Ya don’t say!? Why, I don’t believe it! Josh would never do anything like that!

    Oh Josh, why not just make things a little better on yourself and just come clean, ol chap (where’s Roger when we need him?). DUDE! Everyone knows you’re a rat, so just admit it and take it like man and start trying to salvage your rep, bro. It’s only gonna get worse if you don’t guy!

    PP just cares, that’s all, and he wants you to do the right thing cause he knows you’ll feel better about yourself when you do. Remember: “honesty is the best policy.” Besdies Josh, what did poor Kite ever do to you that you’d wanna ruin his life and put that woman and those children in harms way!? I can’t believe you Josh. You should be ashamed of yourself. What do your parents have to say to you about all this?

    ~ PP

  241. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 24, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Hey everybody, make sure and check “the villica mess.”

    March 25, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    I am a friend of Josh, for ten years now…we are not best friends but I know him and he has always been sweet and has two beautiful children. He will pay the consequences for his actions so just leave him the f*** alone and get on with your own boring lives. Anyone who spends as much time posting blogs about someone they don’t know needs to get a life. Yes the occasional post is good for letting your voice be heard in this world…but this is ridiculous. I’d love to see some of you strung up on to the gallows of this posting spot and see how you feel. As if you’ve never done anything wrong in your lives. Such hypocrates. As for Josh….his real friends, family and community commrades will have his back and always remember his contagiously large smile, tender hugs and ability to make fun and laughter happen! And I say…All if fair in Love, War and Pot Cultivation! Blessings Josh

  243. let you know later
    March 25, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Arcata Gal- you must be one of the women that joshee poo was cheating on his wife with or did he pay you to make that post, probably both. First of all I’ve seen joshee’s dealings for a lot longer than ten years and I have seen him manipulate, lie, steal, cheat, and ruin peoples lives. Why leave him alone? Everybody deserves to know what kind of scum bag this guy is and trust me I have spread the word a lot farther than this blog. From Santa Cruz to Humboldt counties people know what Joshee poo is all about and I have not talked to one person that has something good to say about him, actually most people say things that I do not care to repeat. I have not met one person that “has his back”. When I first googled his name and found this blog I had to join in because I could not beleive how many other people knew the truth about joshee poo and I had to back it up. Trust me, after the scum bag is sentenced I will give more details.
    -let you know later

  244. Beowulf
    March 25, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Arcata gal: “all is fair in Love, War and Pot Cultivation?” I’m sure the rest of northern California will appreciate your concern for the common good. Does that mean it was okay for Josh to rat out Kite because he was a cultivator? Josh may have beautiful children but what about Kite’s children? What about all the other people who have kids that Josh has screwed over? What about Josh’s recent transparent attempts to salvage his reputation and curry favor by piggy-backing on code enforcement issues? What a poseur. He must think the rest of Humboldt is as gullible as you are Arcata Gal. I hear that before he got busted Josh was running his mouth saying “if I go down I’ll bring everyone I know of down with me.” Josh defines chump ass punk.

  245. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 25, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Arcata Gal:

    “I am a friend of Josh, for ten years now…we are not best friends but I know him and he has always been sweet and has two beautiful children.”

    Should read like: I have been friends with Josh for ten years and though we are not best friends he has always been sweet to me.

    The fact that he “has two beautiful children” is irrelevant.

    “He will pay the consequences for his actions so just leave him the f*** alone and get on with your own boring lives.”

    You bet he’s gonna pay! So you DO acknowledge that he’s acted in a way that deserves to be paid for, eh, GAL!? By the way, my life is anything but boring, thank you.

    “Anyone who spends as much time posting blogs about someone they don’t know needs to get a life. Yes the occasional post is good for letting your voice be heard in this world…but this is ridiculous.”

    We all know about what Josh has done, so it’s not like we’re talking out of our assess, GAL! Who are you to decide how much someone should post? “Ridiculous!?” You say?

    “I’d love to see some of you strung up on to the gallows of this posting spot and see how you feel.”

    Now that’s not very nice to say now is it, GAL!?

    “As if you’ve never done anything wrong in your lives. Such hypocrates.” [nice spelling, gal]

    Sweetheart, I’ve done so much fucked up shit in my life it’s not even funny. But two wrongs don’t make a right now do they?

    “As for Josh….his real friends, family and community commrades [spell check] will have his back and always remember his contagiously large smile, tender hugs and ability to make fun and laughter happen!”

    So Josh does actually have friends, eh!? I think what you meant to say was…’his devious smile, back-stabbing hugs, and his ability to make a jack-ass of himself (or charm gullible Humboldt Honeys into thinking he’s a prince).

    “And I say…All if fair in Love, War and Pot Cultivation! Blessings Josh”

    Whoah there, sister! I think the saying actually goes more like: ‘all is fair in love and war.’ I don’t recall anything in that saying that deals with pot cultivation. But if what you’re saying is it’s ok to lie to people and steal from them because they’re growers, then you and Josh are perfect for each-other! I don’t think Jah is blessing you, Josh, or any thieves and liars. I could be wrong, but last time I checked “Thou Shalt Not Steal, Thou Shalt Not Lie” were still on The Book.

    Nice try Arcata Gal, but try harder next time. :-)

    ~ PP

  246. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 27, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    That’s a good question, anon! I was just wondering that myself.

    If I’m not mistaken, Josh is waiting for his sentencing. If in fact he’s still going to be sentenced that is. I think his sentencing is the first week in May. Why is it again that the feds are giving Josh so much time between his change of plea in Jan or Feb of this year and his sentencing, especially after getting popped with $100K? Hummm!? I wonder…. .

    Maybe these judgments are premature, but I think Josh might actually be working for the feds full time now. I know, I know it’s hard for all of us to believe, especially after Arcata girl’s passionate plea in Josh’s defense.

    Maybe it’d be helpful if we just review:

    1.) Josh gets busted for his alleged involvement in orchestrating the East Bay pot growing warehouses (Oakland, Berekeley, where were they exactly…how long ago was that?).

    2.) Josh spends a lot of time and money defending his innocence and reputation. A lot of time and money. Follow me so far?

    3.) Josh finally changes his plea to guilty, forfeits a bunch of land and money, yet gets four months before being sentenced (does any of this seem strange yet?)

    4.) Josh gets popped with $100K (that’s ca$h, people!) while awaiting federal sentencing on massive charges, yet remains a FREE citizen! (at this point even those with half a brain should have a strong gut feeling that something really strange is going on, oh I dunno, maybe like Josh is a narc).

    5.) Kite goes down. Wait, don’t Josh and Kite know each-other…really well!? Weird, eh?

    I’m sorry, I forgot, did Josh get popped with the cash before or after Kite went down? Ya know, there’s been so many silly things like testimonials from so many people about what a thief and a liar Josh is, so many weird events following Josh’s change of plea, so many people all saying the same thing and agreeing on who and what Josh is, that I’m beginning to think that we’re all just creating are own reality here, that none of this ever happened, and that maybe we’ve got this whole thing wrong!

    Ahhh, naw guy! Think again!

    Oh yeah, and didn’t the Baywood cancel on Josh because they didn’t want to be affiliated with him. And Rose was gonna meet him for coffee “her treat”, and she decided that it wasn’t a good idea because of all the “warning signs”. Huh…!

    Who knows, I could be wrong, I’ve been wrong before. Josh could be completely innocent.


    March 27, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    After looking on here after my first post, it is clear of the stuff going on that perhaps I don’t know about. I was just trying to be positive for the sake of his family. It is no easy thing on them. To insult me is easy for you to do from your computer but I’d like to see you insult me to my face…i don’t think you would. After finding out more facts I believe that some of these things you all say are true and that is as far as I am willing to respond. You have alot of anger pouring from you…that is your problem. I could care less at this point and will never look on here again as its full of negative energy.

  248. Beowulf
    March 27, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Arcata Gal said: “After finding out more facts I believe that some of these things you all say are true”- thanks Gal.

  249. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 28, 2008 at 1:29 am

    Dear Arcata Gal:

    I wasn’t trying to insult you personally, I was just attacking your argument and claims about Josh because I know what a dirt bag he is. The way your post was writen it was such an easy target, so I’m sorry if you felt insulted. I was just trying to respond to what you wrote and have a little fun too. Your right, I’m sure what Josh has done is not easy on his family, but no one is attacking them, no one is blaming them. I feel terrible for Josh’s family and how aweful and ashamed of Josh they must feel. But Josh fucked up bad, and more than once, so it’s no surprise that people are coming forward with information about Josh because he’s skrewed over a lot of people and those people are rightly angry and upset about what Josh has done to them. Dismiss it as “negative energy” if you like, but don’t you agree that it’s right for someone to be upset if someone else has wronged them? In the name of supporting free and open dialogue for all people perhaps you should reconsider not ever posting on this thread, and make your voice and thoughts heard instead. You’re welcome here anytime, Gal.

    Best, PP

  250. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 28, 2008 at 1:39 am

    what happened to anon’s question: “where is Joshee-Poo” did it disapear? has pp gone mad? :-) too much opium? oh no, that was Holmes, not Porfiry. PP probably prefers his voldka :-)

  251. not amused by PP
    March 28, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Do you even know Josh, or Ben??? If you don’t then I have to laugh at you…..I see all this..where is Josh now, where is Ben..i know where they both are and you don’t so HAHAHAHA! How is that for an annoying post? PP you should write a book about this scandal, might be a best seller. Just make sure you never let anyone local who are friends of the Hedlunds know what you look like.

  252. Anonymous
    March 28, 2008 at 11:13 am

    he looks like a PP.

  253. Beowulf
    March 28, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    not amused by PP=internet tough guy

  254. Anonymous
    March 28, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    did not mean where is joshee poo in person, I could care less I was just wondering why he has not posted in awhile. Is he too overwhelmed by the amount of people coming forward about him?

  255. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 28, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    This is great! I’m so happy to see other people expressing their opinions on this thread re: Josh! This is what I’m talking about people!

    And now, the moment you’ve all been waiting for…

    …drum roll please…

    “PP and not amused: An Interview :-)”

    not amused by PP Says:
    March 28, 2008 at 11:04 am

    NA Q. Do you even know Josh, or Ben???

    PP A. I do, I know them both. But even if I didn’t know them it doesn’t take a genius to see what many others have said about Josh and what he’s done. Are you laughing at them too!?

    not amused: If you don’t then I have to laugh at you…..I see all this..where is Josh now, where is Ben..i know where they both are and you don’t so HAHAHAHA! How is that for an annoying post?

    A: actually it’s not annoying at all, it’s funny. Are you implying that I’m annoying you? I could give a rat’s ass about Josh and Ben’s actual physical whereabouts, I just want them to answer and stop being little cowards! Remember: I’m NOT Dog the Bounty Hunter on the look out for them, guy!

    not amused: PP you should write a book about this scandal, might be a best seller. Just make sure you never let anyone local who are friends of the Hedlunds know what you look like.

    PP: ya know, I’d already thought of that guy, and who knows I might actually write that book. Ya know what they say? Truth reads better than fiction! :-) As for your not so veiled threats, my internet tough guy,…. not a good idea to threaten someone on a public blog, especially since their only crime is practicing free speech. Why so hostile towards my words anyway? “Me thinks you doth protest too much!” Besides, do the Hedlunds even have any friends left? Especially ones that would try to hurt or kill someone that wrote a book about what a blatantly obvious lying, thieving, conniving, cheating, scamming little coward ass rat Josh is! FACTS! Everyone knows who and what Josh is and what he’s done, and several others have spoken out the truth against Josh. It’s no big secret, guy. So take a chill pill, take a puff, and relax. The truth hurts, I know. But you’re not gonna get anywhere trying to attack me and threaten me on-line. All you’ve accomplished is making an ass of your self, while all the while giving me and the other readers and posters more fodder for the canon. Sorry guy, but you blew it. Your tough guy plan backfired and put PP on the attack now more that ever! Look out for more verbal slings and arrows of misfortune!

    Thanks again internet tough guy!

    Hugs and Kisses, PP

  256. not amused by PP
    March 29, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    WOW… your ego is your worst enemy!!! I don’t think you could ever resist a comeback..you probably post negative things about yourself so that you can post better comebacks…good to see someone having so much fun at home sitting on their ass..while others are out working their asses off in the woods so people like yourself can “have a puff” peace out PP

  257. Beowulf
    March 29, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    not amused said: “your ego is your worst enemy.” Actually that is a perfect description of Joshee-poo.

  258. let you know later
    March 29, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    not amused-you better hope joshee-poo doesn’t know where you are working in the woods, you said you were a friend of his and and you know what happened to his pal Kite.–Don’t you. Sounds like you need to get out of those woods and stop making threats to people, my only wish is to see joshee poo admit what he has done and to warn others about his schemes. You might take notice.

  259. not amused by PP
    March 29, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    You people never stop–I never said I was in the woods did I?? Get your facts straight-when did I say he and I were friends? You people suck

  260. let you know later
    March 29, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    you implied both but for your sake lets hope your not.
    Be careful little boy.

  261. Josh Hedlund
    March 30, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    let you know later, beowulf, pp my number is 415-850-7118 and my email is joshhedlund@yahoo.com. Sounds like you have some issues; care to share the details with me or the public? It has been a while since I checked out this obscure blog, and I am constantly surprised by the postings. You really do need to get a life or at least contact me so that we can address any disagreement.

  262. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 30, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    Dear Josh Hedlund:

    You still don’t get it, do you!?

    No one is gonna call you or email you directly, guy! OK!? So just quick posting your email and ph and asking people to contact you, because it’s not gonna happen, EVER!


    Because everyone from Santa Cruz to Arcata knows for a FACT that you are a lying, stealing, conniving, cheating, snitching, low-down, no good, scum-bag rat! OK, guy!?

    Dude! Pull your head out of your ass and read and collect all the different information that several different people have reported about dealing with you, talking to you, doing business with you, your environmental record, all of it, and face the TRUTH! You are a total and complete sleaze bag who’s robbed people, lied to them, scammed them, and snitched on them, and yet you continue to deny all of this! How is that possible? Are you so fucked up on yourself, your ego, alcohol? drugs?, whatever…that you can continue to make bogus statements on here and expect people to contact you directly to “address any disagreement”!? Are you out of your mind!? There’s no disagreement to address. The only thing that needs addressing are your horrible words and actions!

    Let me spell it out for you one last time, even though I, and others have done so already several times!

    The reasons no one is going to contact you directly are these:

    1.) Those who’ve tried to contact you claim that it takes “forever” for you to get back to them.

    2.) Those who’ve actually spoken to you on the ph claim you’ve shouted them down when they’ve confronted you with the truth about all the things you’ve done.

    3.) Those that yet haven’t, and never will contact you KNOW that your whole goal in trying to get people to contact you directly is so you can skirt public attention away from yourself, and take the dialogue behind closed doors where you can manipulate people and shout at them without anyone else hearing your rantings!

    4.) No one in their right mind would even think of linking their ph or email to yours since you’re “hotter than a rat in Satan’s sewer”, especially after you narced off Kite!

    5.) And no one is gonna call you from a pay phone cause you’re not even worth 50 cents for three minutes!

    As for sharing our “issues” with “the public”, as you’ve invited us to do, that’s exactly what we’re doing on this thread you dumb-ass!

    You’re not “surprised” by these postings because you know they’re true. What you are is furious with rage because you’re so arrogant that you never thought you’d get caught and now your worst nightmare has come true! Your paranoia about getting busted, your obsession with your seemingly perfect image and reputation, your cool clothes, nice cars, fancy dinners, queer-eye for the straight guy design fetishes, it’s all crumbling right in front of your eyes and you can’t fucking stand it. It’s driving you mad. Isn’t it Josh!? How do you even sleep at night, look yourself in the mirror, or face the sweet innocent eyes of your children? You weak little coward!

    We all have lives Josh. Posting information about people who are an obvious threat to our community, our safety, our freedom is a moral obligation that every good citizen has! Something you’d know nothing about!

    It is you who have no life left, Josh. And yet after all you’ve done you still have the arrogance to LIE to everyone!

    Please, do us all a favor. Either come clean PUBLICLY about what you’ve done, or just shut the Hell up completely, because we’re all sick to death of your filthy lies and yet you continue to stuff them down our throats. We’re puking them back up on you Josh and we’d appreciate it if you just stopped.

    For the last time, tell the truth, or shut your little lying mouth!

    ~ PP’s

  263. let you know later
    March 30, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    joshee poo- we are all sick of you posting your info hoping that someone will contact you. Everything that PP has said is right on. Why don’t you address the fact that you gave up your friend Kite, or anything else? I suggest that you do because I am actually holding back a lot of info about your pretty boy ass that I’m sure you don’t want aired. Please just admit what has been said here is true and I will leave it at that–HAVE WE GOT A DEAL?

  264. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 30, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Wow Josh,

    sounds like “let you know later” is being quite frank, reasonable, and by all means unnecessarily, but graciously compassionate towards you as well. Why not just take this opportunity to do what LYKL is gently advising. He only wants you to fess up. Is that too much to ask? Especially when, apparently, there is so much more for you at stake!

    I can only wish so much ill will on an evil doer such as yourself (thanks DubYah), before I’m moved by compassion and pity to urge you, Josh L. H. to do the right thing.

    ~ PP

    p.s. thx for the validation “lykl”. all in this together. pp.

  265. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 31, 2008 at 2:05 am

    JLH (aka Joshee-poo):

    You’re probably tweaking hard on crystal meth right now (God knows Hitler and all his boys were tweaking pretty hard during their final hours in the bunker when they knew they were going down for sure).

    But anyway…. :-)

    I’ve gotta work tomorrow so I should probably be signing off and crashing out for the night soon. But I’m still interested to see what you and your few remaining supporters (do they actually exist in reality or only as figments of your imagination?) could possible have left to say after ALL this.

    ~ PP

  266. not amused by PP
    March 31, 2008 at 10:25 am

    PP is the one tweaking, staying up late to see if Josh would reply to yet another long drawn out post. You have made your point several times that you want him to come clean, maybe if you call him you can get a personal conversation..I think you are coward to preach on here but refuse to call and say things to him over the phone. No matter what has happened I think you have lost the plot dude. You are very annoying and no one can get a word in edge wise because of you, you always have something to to say on whatever anyone has to say..you must be bored. You have become so obsessed with exposing Josh that you have exposed yourself in a way. It seems pointless to repeat oneself on this topic..over and over again. If Josh has the balls enough to post his number and email address then why don’t you have the balls to respond. Oh yeah..you already wrote a long list of why not…my bad. It is missing

    6) I am full of shit and will not contact Josh..because I am scared….

    Just own up to it pp. It’s okay to be vulnerable.
    If he posts his number what else do you have to say on here…you have nothing, your words are pointless. You think Josh doesn’t know what he has done…let him live with guilt and regret…he owes you nothing.

  267. Beowulf
    March 31, 2008 at 11:48 am

    I’ve called the number Josh has posted but all I get is a recorded message which says: You have reached Lying, Stealing, Snitching, Defrauding and Back-Stabbing for the Benefit of a Greedy Narcissist, LLC. Please leave a message.

  268. let you know later
    March 31, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    That’s funny its same mesage I got!

  269. March 31, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    All Josh – but what about Schectman? Is he blameless here? Will the DA file charges against him? No? Bulldozing plateaus to put in greenhouses, putting in roads, all in the name of a couple of LLCs – what about Schectman?

  270. wow
    March 31, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    if you squeezed all the vitriol out of this thread and bottled it, you’d have to take it to a toxic waste dump to dispose of it.

    now that’s some pretty impressive spleen-venting.

  271. Beowulf
    March 31, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    Rose: I don’t know much about Schectman but I do know Josh is a malignant presence in our midst about whom society needs to be warned. Any info on how those two got hooked up? How did Josh convince the Schectster to put his name on those LLCs? Were there any repercussions for him?

    Wow: It’s true Josh is toxic and does inspire a great deal of animus (but not vitriol), what’s your point?

  272. wow
    March 31, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    the point is that seething with this sort of animus/vitriol can become habitual. but as long as you’re enjoying it, be my guest. (you might watch out for the bleeding ulcers…they can be a bitch.)

  273. Beowulf
    March 31, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Wow: Thanks for your concern with for my health; you should think about supporting the health of the community by alerting it to the dangerous presence of Josh Hedlund.

  274. Beowulf
    March 31, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    Snarf and Wow the similarities of your comments make me think you are the same person. Is that you Dave?

  275. wow
    March 31, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    good sleuthing, beowulf… yeah, i also posted as “snarf” on that other thread. but i’m not “dave.” if you want to try to guess my name i’ll play along if you want…it starts with the letter “j.” but i guess before you waste a lot of time, i should let you know that i don’t know squat about the evil josh hedlund other than what’s been posted here. i just noticed that this thread kept getting traffic so long after it seemed to go dormant. so i poked my head in to see what all the fuss was about…and my reaction was “wow.” then i couldn’t resist adding my little comment, which was meant as playfully poking fun at the heavy-duty drama and, as you put it, the “animus” being exhibited here. but i’ll buzz off now, ‘cuz i can see no one’s in the mood to have fun poked in any direction!

    peace, y’all

  276. Beowulf
    April 1, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Okay sorry for the misunderstanding wow/snarf.

  277. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 1, 2008 at 12:37 am

    not amused by PP Says:
    March 31, 2008 at 10:25 am

    PP is the one tweaking,

    PP: I am? Why can’t I be up late without drugs? Natural styli, brau! Don’t care for the white shit actually. YUK!

    NAbPP: maybe if you call him [Josh] you can get a personal conversation..I think you are coward to preach on here but refuse to call and say things to him over the phone.

    PP: I’ve already listed the same valid reasons (multiple times) why I will not contact Josh on the phone, and why others have decided not to do so as well. Can you read? Do you understand? It is you who’ve “lost the plot” here I’m afraid.

    NAbPP: You are very annoying and no one can get a word in edge wise because of you, you always have something to to say on whatever anyone has to say..you must be bored.

    PP: Who am I annoying and why? Everyone has equal access to this thread, and I’ve never discouraged anyone from coming forward with any information. In fact I’ve done quite the opposite and called on everyone to speak their voice, share their opinions, knowledge, information. So you’re WRONG again about yet another point, you poor ignorant fool you.

    NAbPP: You have become so obsessed with exposing Josh that you have exposed yourself in a way.

    PP: Josh has already grossly exposed himself long ago. I had nothing to do with that. Besides, if wanting my fellow humans to know information that might protect them is an obsession, then I’m guilty. What have I exposed about myself that risks my reputation, safety, freedom? Oh, that’s right you DID threaten me. SCARED :-)

    NAbPP: It seems pointless to repeat oneself on this topic..over and over again. If Josh has the balls enough to post his number and email address then why don’t you have the balls to respond. Oh yeah..you already wrote a long list of why not…my bad. It is missing

    PP: I will never stop spreading the word and will continue to refute all the lies Josh and his thugs post on this thread any time anyone says anything bad about Josh (that’s usually true). Speaking of repetition, as I’ve said dozens of times (each time Josh pitches his canned ph and email response)


    NAbPP: 6) I am full of shit and will not contact Josh..because I am scared….

    PP: Everyone (even Josh and his “friends”) know for a FACT that PP is NOT at all “full of shit” and is telling the truth, which is why you, Josh, and all his other goons are getting so pissed off! HA HA!!! Besides, I’m not scared of Josh at all, why should I be? Josh is a scrawny little, weak-ass pretty-boy coward bitch that would never even try to throw a punch at someone, even if he was being attacked he’d cower and take it like a little bitch. From what I’ve heard, Josh just pays others to come after his enemies.

    NAbPP: Just own up to it pp. It’s okay to be vulnerable
    If he posts his number what else do you have to say on here…you have nothing, your words are pointless. You think Josh doesn’t know what he has done…let him live with guilt and regret…he owes you nothing.

    PP: What exactly am I supposed to own up to again? I love to be vulnerable actually, it kinda turns me on, ya know when she holds me down and calls me a bad boy :-) I’ll never call Josh, but instead keep posting on here to spread the truth about Josh and hope no one else is hurt by him. That is why my words ARE NOT “pointless.” You’re right “Josh knows what he’s done”, but just living with the guilt is not enough. It’s important for him to come forward and right his wrongs with those he’s hurt, then apologize, ask for forgiveness, and make restitution. Who in their right mind disagrees that what I’m proposing is the right thing for Josh, or anyone else for that matter when they’ve wronged others? Josh owes humanity, not me.

    PP can’t see how there’s any other way for anyone else to view this whole situation. Please help me understand how you think you’re right, NAbPP.

    ~ PP (I’l let you talk little boy, don’t worry, I won’t shout you down and shut you out like Josh would) :-)

  278. Spitfire
    April 1, 2008 at 4:18 am

    Mr. Hedlund must be some kind of a Puppet Master? I always thought Humboldt County was full of free thinkers and adhoc theories of the real way of life yet PP is here assuring everyone reading this blog that that half the population of Humboldt County is holding their breathe waiting for Mr. Hedlund to tell them when to breathe. What are are all of these people going to do now that they don’t have Josh telling them how to think and what to think? This Mr. Hedlund must be mesmerizing! Indeed PP it appears you were one of the hundreds being led to the virtual Hedlund Slaughter House. Are you pissed off at your own stupidity and lack of judgment because you now realize you were a little puppet? Humanity needs to be protected from the lies and scandals of George W. Bush yes, but Mr. Hedlund? Come on…let’s be real.

  279. Spitfire
    April 1, 2008 at 4:22 am

    Oh oops… I meant to type just one (that) and holding their(breath). I think there is an English professor in here somewhere.

  280. no amused by PP
    April 1, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Right on spitfire..well put! Surely pp will have a nasty comeback for you..he cannot control himself!

  281. no amused by PP
    April 1, 2008 at 10:57 am

    by the way pp…did Josh fuck you over? This would be interesting to hear..then I could undersand your grudge.

  282. Beowulf
    April 1, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Funny how Josh’s apologists don’t even try to deny the allegations made against him anymore but instead rely on an arguing something like: “if Josh screwed someone over it is their own fault.”

  283. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 1, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Dear Spitfire:

    Or shall I call you Shitfire? All that comes forth from your mouth is fecal and foul poor fellow.

    Does the skateboard wheel company know you’re guilty of copyright infringement!? Might wanna watch that one, guy!

    So Josh is (was) leading half of Humboldt Co around on his puppet strings, as the Puppet Master (do Lars and James know about this? I don’t think they’d be too happy with this!)

    I hate to break it to you fellas, but Josh never ripped me off or burned me in any way directly, really, that’s the truth. Or is it? Still guessing? Sorry to disappoint you. HAHA :-) I know it surprises you shallow little fools to think someone would speak out against Josh for his injustice against others even though no wrong was done directly to the speaker.

    But. “An injustice to any people anywhere, is an injustice to all people everywhere.” So in that sense Josh did fuck me over.

    Humboldt Co is full of all kinds of people, DUH! Let’s avoid generalizations shall we fellas!? Just makes you look dumber than you already seem.

    I’m no fan of Dubyah, that’s for sure, but let’s not go diverting the issue here children. That’s a Straw-man fallacy, just in case any of you little goons weren’t sitting next to Josh rubbing each-others’ legs that day during “Bullshitter’s 101” at UC Santa Cruz. Just because GWB is a crook doesn’t make Josh’s crimes any less acceptable.

    And yes, HUMANITY does need to be protected from Josh because he’s ruined a lot of people’s lives, and shows no sign of letting up on his evil ways.

    Hope you didn’t think this was too nasty. Sorry I didn’t loose control for you little baby boys. :-)

    ~ No English Professor Here, PP

    p.s. is this the best you little kiddies can do? make me work for it! :-)

    p.s.s. by the way, i think spitfire and not amussed are the same person=JOSH. look closely at similarities in diction and line of questioning. not to sound paranoid conspiracy theory, but it seems the writer in both cases is trying to tease out information from PP by possing as two people. also, one stroking the other, and we know how much Josh loves Bush. Have a little bit too much to drink on Fool’s Day Joshee-poo!?

    I smell a rat. besides, who does Josh have left?

  284. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 1, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    also, such close succession of entrys from early to late morning with no other interjections from any anti-Joshes. HUMMMM!

    Ok Josh, just admit it, you were up all night on a bender!

  285. let you know later
    April 1, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Either josh or ben but who cares?

    joshee poo-By attacking PP it does not take attention away from all the fucked up shit you have done,do you have any idea how many people are pissed at you? I’m still waiting for an answer from you!!! By the way where are you headed Attwater, Taft, or Lompoc? Oh thats right I think that they send snitches out of state.

  286. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 1, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Why don’t you just answer “let you know later”, Josh? What are you trying to hide!?

    Clearly you must realize how many people are rightfully pissed at you!

    Let’s hope for your sake Josh that they do send you out of state!

    I’d hate to be you!

    ~ PP

  287. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 3, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    “Car 54 where are you!?”

    They should bring that cool-ass, funny cop show back and just change the theme song to:

    “Oh Joshee-poo where are you!?”

    (wish I could loop the tune on here for ya’all to hear)

    PP is havin’ fun tonight!

  288. Congratulations
    April 3, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    This must be the longest-running pissing match in humboldt herald history!

  289. Anonymous
    April 4, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    MAY 16, 2008

  290. Beowulf
    April 4, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    Is that his sentencing date (May 16, 2008) ? Gee wiz Josh that sure was nice of them to give you so much time between your plea and sentencing date. How did you manage that? How did you manage to not get locked up after getting that 100,000K seized.

  291. let you know later
    April 5, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Well Beo, here’s a fact for you — a little birdie that told me that JOSH IS COOPERATING. this is a very knowledgable birdie.

    ———PLEASE anybody who reads this be aware that josh will do anything he can to save his ass. I have nothing to gain from posting this except trying to protect people in this community. josh will give up anyone knowing what he is facing.

  292. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 7, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    I’ve always really enjoyed bird watching. Watching birds and listening to the sweet songs they sing…songs that sound so true and real.

    So as one might imagine, I particularly like it when others share that same appreciation for listening to all the beautiful and true songs of the the little birdies, especially the “very knowledgeable” birdies!

    What’s even better is when fellow bird watchers share what they’ve learned from from birdies just because they want everyone to live better, safer, healthier, happier, freer lives.

    Thanks to all you bird watchers out there!

    ~ PP

  293. Porfiry Petrovich
    April 8, 2008 at 12:32 am

    On a serious note, as much as I do love bird watching, it is so important that everyone in our community, our state, our country, (at the risk of sounding a little extreme) our world must never forget that…


    …is in fact, and beyond any reasonable doubt a serious threat to other peoples’ personal safety, freedom, and happiness. This we know, and this we must continue to remind ourselves of, and spread the word to those who do not yet know. Many of the human family have forgotten or ignored other travesties in the past and then sadly watched as history repeats itself. Hence the saying, however cliche’ it may be.

    It will be very interesting to see what happens on 5/16/08, and to watch how events unfold after Josh is sentenced.

    ~ Yours for the cause of peace, safety, and happiness for all human beings, PP

  294. let you know later
    April 9, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    joshee poo….. I’m still waiting for an answer, why don’t you please respond to me? I know that you are checking this site, you can’t bare to not know what people are saying about you, which could be a lot more may I remind you!!!!!
    Give us something more than your form answer, bla, bla bla, contact me at 415-scumbag.

  295. Beowulf
    April 9, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    I for one hope Josh doesn’t answer the challenge of “let you know later;” I really want to hear the rest of the information he has about Josh wrongdoings. In the meantime I heard some music that reminded me of Josh, so I made this little mix for y’all:

    I’n’I nah come to fight flesh and blood,
    But spiritual wickedness in ‘igh and low places.
    So while they fight you down,
    Stand firm and give Jah thanks and praises.
    ‘Cos I’n’I no expect to be justified
    by the laws of men – by the laws of men.

    Guiltiness (talkin’ ’bout guiltiness)
    Pressed on their conscience. Oh yeah.
    And they live their lives (they live their lives)
    On false pretence everyday –
    each and everyday. Yeah.

    These are the big fish
    Who always try to eat down the small fish,
    just the small fish.
    I tell you what: they would do anything
    To materialize their every wish. Oh yeah-eah-eah-eah.

    Say: Woe to the downpressors:
    They’ll eat the bread of sorrow!
    Woe to the downpressors:
    They’ll eat the bread of sad tomorrow!
    Woe to the downpressors:
    They’ll eat the bread of sorrow!
    Oh, yeah-eah! Oh, yeah-eah-eah-eah!
    Rise up fallen fighters
    Rise and take your stance again.
    ‘Cause he who fight and run away
    Live to fight another day.


    As a man sow, shall he reap
    And I know that talk is cheap.
    So the hotter the battle
    Is the sweeter the victory.

    Rise up freedom fighters
    Rise and take your stance again.
    ‘Cause he who fight and run away
    Live to fight another day.


  296. Spitfire
    April 10, 2008 at 9:48 am

    You little Shitbird PP! You can rest assured that I am not Josh Hedlund posting in the early a.m. It is not wise to assume anything. I think that you believe everything you hear and that you don’t know shit!

  297. no amused by PP
    April 11, 2008 at 10:09 am

    wow pp is bored

  298. May 3, 2008 at 1:18 am

    kite finds the feather was joshes partner and kite gave him the 100000. mendo mate is a joke as well.

  299. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 9, 2008 at 7:45 pm


    You’re so right dude, I do believe everything I hear. So if you just tell me Josh is a good guy and hasn’t snitched anybody out, I’ll believe you. And, like Socrates, I know I know nothing. So please, oh great and wise Spitfire, educate me, enlighten me with your profound knowledge and insight into Josh, into humanity, into myself.

    Has Spitfire skateboard wheel company sued you for copyright infringement yet? :-)

    ~ PP

  300. lol
    May 9, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    pp,did josh you out?

  301. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 9, 2008 at 11:30 pm



    I think you meant to say “did Josh out you?”

    Others on this thread have asked and/or assumed that Josh has personaly wronged me, robbed me, narced me off, or fucked my girlfriend. Once again, for the record Josh has never personaly or indirectly harmed me in anyway, other than by offending me with his arrogance and pride, and insulting my intelligence with his self-believed, smooth talk.

    PP just calls em like he sees em.

  302. lol
    May 12, 2008 at 11:45 am


  303. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 13, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Thank you, lol.

  304. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 14, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Spitfire Skateboard company must’ve sued Shitfire and taken his computer :-)

  305. Tag Supporter
    May 18, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    The only one that got sentenced was Tageson….A hear and a day……weed was dropped, and they got him on Federal Weapons charges………EVERYBODY ELSE WALKED…….?

  306. Anonymous
    May 18, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    tag was not the only one sentenced, two others are in prison also. he was sentenced for distribution and WAS NOT CHARGED WITH FEDERAL WEAPONS CHARGES. I feel sorry for the guy but you probably know who put him in that position.

  307. Beowulf
    May 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    It is too bad that everyone who ever made the mistake of dealing with Josh Hedlund has had to suffer negative consequences. I hope Kite and the Berkeley victims go on to rebuild their lives and see better days. People like Josh Hedlund sorely test one’s faith in humanity. . . but don’t let em get you down . . . may the good prevail and the wicked suffer for their evil doings.

  308. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 19, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    As Josh’s transgressions, his betrayals increase I am increasingly flabbergasted by his utter lack of caring for others. It baffles me to think of betraying anyone, but especially my friends and family. To think of the potential danger Josh has put his own family in, and the shame he’s brought on the Hedlund family name leaves me shaking my head and asking, “why!?”, “for what!?”, “how!?”

    Thanks for the straight scoop on Tag and the others, “anon”.

    ~ PP

  309. whats going on
    May 21, 2008 at 10:56 am

    So did Josh get any jail time????? I haven’t seen anything on it yet.

  310. Anonymous
    May 21, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    doesn’t get sentenced until july 20th

  311. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 21, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Wow! I can’t believe it! Josh’s sentencing has been postponed, AGAIN!? What’s that make, three times now, or just two!?

    Hummm… I wonder what Josh is doing with all his FREE time (no pun intended), and why other people he knows are getting busted. That’s so weird.

    PP can’t believe his ears and eyes.

  312. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 22, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    I know you’re reading these threads Joshee-poo, you stinky little turd you!

  313. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 23, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    Why so quiet Josh!?

  314. let you know later
    May 23, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Really joshee poo why not just one little reply?

  315. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 24, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Please Joshee poo, please!

  316. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 24, 2008 at 12:49 am

    And where have all Josh’s supporters gone? All you little hecklers from the peanut gallery…what say you now!?

  317. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 25, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    We’re waiting all you silly, slack-jawed spewers!

    By the way, have you checked the Villa Mess thread lately to see the new evidence that’s emerged against Josh? Picture becoming a little clearer to ya all!?

  318. May 26, 2008 at 7:05 am

    hecklers from the peanut gallery? who are you, the judge or the jury?

    get off your high horse and provide some information. otherwise, you sound like the loudest heckler of all.

  319. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 27, 2008 at 2:31 pm


    If you got out more, you’d know “hecklers from the peanut gallery” are the people that sit in the far back of theaters, concert halls, etc., and make wise cracks at the performers. This has nothing to do with court rooms, judges, or juries.

    I am neither judge nor jury, just a reporter, that’s all.

    I do enjoy horseback riding, but haven’t been in a while.

    As for ‘providing information’, surely you jest! Where have you been for the last couple months!?

    Theo: you’re not even hard work, you’re barely fun, you’re a complete idiot, dude. You can keep coming back if you want to, but I’m gonna send you home looking like the total ass you are every time. Do you realize what a jack-ass you sound like? Have a friend proof your blogs, get some feedback, anything! You’re killin’ me, dude!

    PP is here to stay

  320. May 28, 2008 at 11:39 am

    i didnt think that you had any info, just insults…..i am obviously correct…

  321. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 28, 2008 at 1:44 pm


    You’re not correct about anything, ever.

    Many people have plenty of truthful info and are presenting it on these threads for all to read. If you wish to ignore reality, and/or make utterly stupid comments go ahead. Everytime you poke your little head up and say something dumb I’m just gonna come back at you.

    PP will always have the last word!

    p.s. yeah, I insulted you, b/c you’re a fucking retard!

  322. Anonymous
    May 28, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    What the hell are you babies crying about in this ancient thread for? Jesus Tiberious Christ, get a life.

  323. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 28, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    The pyramids are ancient. Josh Lonetree Hedlund is fresh bread.

    As long as The Tyrant is free, PP will speak.

    What do you care anyway, “Anonymous”? If this thread is so “ancient” why are you even bothering to check it and post, guy!?

    Hummm… .

  324. Paid Disruptor
    May 28, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Because you are a silly, silly man and there’s a notation in the top right column of every page on this site when you revisit this page to whine on and one. That’s why. I was curious what kind of person would have lost their life to this blog. Now I know.

  325. Beowulf
    May 28, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Hey Disjointed, how much are they paying you? 50 cents per hour is my guess.

  326. tad
    May 28, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Peace be with you Beowolf

    My guess is six-figures. Go back and track his/her/theirs behavior. It’s hard, but he/she is anonymous; has a far right point of view; attacks certain people; refutes truth with lies; and goes on these patterns for months at a time then uses another pattern. He/she/them is often the majority poster on certain posts (not this one of course, as only a fool or a paid disruptor would not see the sense in “desperate seeking hedlund” in your’s and PP’s hands). There’s a pattern. He/she/them is definitely a professional. He/she/then is definitely involved in the republican/police state takeover of Humboldt County. He/she/them is definitely dangerous.

    Lies! Lies again! And lies the third time and points to the first lie to prove it’s the truth! That’s our boy “anonymous the disruptor.” The oldest trick in the cop narc book is tell ’em your a cop, and they’ll think its too outrageous and they’ll never suspect you again.

    love eternal

  327. tad
    May 28, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    Peace Beowulf

    Sorry ’bout spelling your name wrong.


  328. Beowulf
    May 28, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    Thanks for the heads-up Tad.

  329. Beowulf
    May 28, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    No worries about spelling, Tad. Peace.

  330. Paid Disruptor
    May 28, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Oh Tad, don’t sell me short. It’s not the six figures, but the perks. Ohhh, the perks! I’d tell you more, but then you’d become even more paranoid.

  331. let you know later
    May 28, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    ————CHECK THIS———————–

    A friend of mine just got out of Santa Rita. Told me that there was a guy put in his pod that was wrapped up in the Berkely case, IRS was involved in his case, lost tons of land in Humboldt and Mendecino, and he named all the defendants in the case.

    “whats his name”

    “I Think josh”

    told me that he was waiting to be transfered to a federal prison after sentencing. Said he was facing fourteen years but took a deal that he would do only six.

    All you piece of shit Josh supporters and feds that are on this blog either admit it or get him to respond on this blog. The federal system works in any way it wants, put you here put you there, they can do whatever they want, sometimes it does not make sense but I have no doubt that this is piece of shit joshee poo. dont forget that people are hungry.

  332. Paid Disruptor
    May 28, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    I love your fiction writing. You should self publish. Oh wait, you did.

  333. Beowulf
    May 28, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Let You Know Later: Interesting and could be true (small world and all); stranger things have happened. We certainly haven’t heard boo from little joshee-poo on this blog lately.

  334. Anonymous
    May 28, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Who the hell is joshee-poo?

  335. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 29, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    Isn’t it funny how NONE of the Josh supporters can EVER provide any information based on truth and reason that Josh is not exactly who all of us know he is!? It’s almost laughable!!!

    Disrupter: did you get that raise from 50 cents to 75 cents per hour yet, guy!?

    Whoah, dude, wahta trip, mon! I never noticed the upper right hand column! Thanks for that, brau!

    “Just curious what type of person would loose their life to this blog.” BAH HAH HAH! Spare me, dude! Is that the best you can do?! What a joke!

    Here’s one for you guy…YOU’RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE!

    All you little bullshitters out there know we’re right, and you’re wrong, and there’s nothing you can say, because you have nothing. FACT! PP just laughs at your stupid little kiddy shit lies. Who the hell do you think you’re fooling!?

    If Josh is innocent, let him raise up his voice. Why don’t I think that’ll ever happen? Hummm… .

    Maybe because Josh’s silence equals guilt!

    Case closed!

    ~ PP

  336. let you know later
    May 29, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Do remember that joshee poo’s sentencing was originally set for january sometime. Then it was continued because his lawyer (Darr) put in a motion to supress evidence related to his first violation while being out on pre-trial release, you know the one where he rolled the toyota in Benbow and got caught with cash, fake ID’s, and real estate records?
    A hearing was set then all of sudden he plead guilty out of nowhere.- because he got caught again, this time pulled over with 100k on him. a few days later Kite was busted.
    I forgot to mention that my friend who told me the info said that it was in January that he met this person in Santa Rita. I will find out for sure this weekend because I am going to bring him a picture of ol joshee poo.

  337. May 29, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    if i was about to be sentenced, i wouldnt put myself at risk on the blogs…..but im sane, unlike PP, who is either jealous or has some real beef with josh…..

  338. let you know later
    May 29, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    I think alot of people have a real beef with josh.

  339. Beowulf
    May 29, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    “you know the one where he rolled the toyota in Benbow and got caught with cash, fake ID’s, and real estate records?”
    HaHa I hadn’t heard about that one. What a jackass Josh is; it never ends with that guy–he thinks he is James Bond but is more like the Pink Panther.
    “I will find out for sure this weekend because I am going to bring him a picture of ol joshee poo.” Let us know how that goes.
    Theo: remember that when you consistently play devil’s advocate sometimes you end up advocating for the devil.

  340. let you know later
    May 29, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Beo, I will definetly let you know how that goes. Love your analogy of the pink panther, it suits him perfectly.

  341. May 30, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    i dont believe in devils, or angels, or gods, or goddesses or magic, or miracles, or astrology or any of that supernatural myth that stresses ghosts and spirits.

    so advocating for the “devil” doesnt make much sense. i dont advocate for ghosts that i dont believe in.

  342. Beowulf
    May 30, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Theo do you believe that evil exists?

  343. May 30, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    i believe in survival. a person will do almost anything to protect his family and his money. its a dog eat dog world to me. you call it evil, i call it survival……

  344. May 30, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    lets say josh did turn people in to the feds……did he do that because of divine intervention or because he was trying to save his ass? if its true, i think he was trying to save his ass, not because a ghost told him to do it….

  345. Beowulf
    May 30, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Why do you chose to force such a literal interpretation of “the devil” ?

  346. Beowulf
    May 30, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    So if Josh was “trying to save his ass” then it would be ok for him to “turn people into the feds” ? Is that what you believe?

  347. May 30, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    i dont believe anything is “ok”, things just are. who am i to determine if things are “ok” or not? in the whole scheme of things, my tiny little existence on earth as a human does not make me all-knowing……

    in my opinion, being a narc does not come from divine intervention. if it did, why would have josh waited until he got caught to turn people in? being a narc comes from getting BUSTED and trying to SAVE YOUR ASS!!!

    its called survival of the fittest…i just dont buy the whole “moral” argument or the “divine” argument either….

  348. May 30, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    each and every one of us, when pushed to extreme survival mode, would do things that we would normally think outrageous……im not excusing the guy if he did it, im just trying to analyze why he would turn someone in to the cops.

    i personally have been in the position of having been narced off once, and i dont excuse the guy. i dont respect the guy either though……..

    when being interogated, i was not tempted to narc anyone off, just to be clear. im more of a man than that. i am able to answer for my choices without blaming others….

  349. May 30, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    i was narced off by a group of “friends” who when caught doing a crime, named ME as the ringleader of the whole operation, when in reality, i wasnt even involved anymore…….these cases arent as straighforward as they sound….

    some crack under pressure….im sure my “friends” will always be wimps, thats just human nature….SAVE YOUR ASS!!!

  350. Beowulf
    May 30, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    “who am i to determine if things are “ok” or not?”

    A rational human being I would presume, but maybe I shouldn’t.

    “in my opinion, being a narc does not come from divine intervention.”
    Here you rebut an argument that has not been made (except by you).

    “being a narc comes from getting BUSTED and trying to SAVE YOUR ASS!!!

    its called survival of the fittest…i just dont buy the whole “moral” argument or the “divine” argument either….”

    What do you mean? You don’t believe morality has any basis or validity? As long as you are “trying to save your ass” you can justify any action?

    “when being interogated, i was not tempted to narc anyone off, just to be clear. im more of a man than that. i am able to answer for my choices without blaming others….”

    But you just wrote that being a rat “is survival of the fittest.” But your “more of a man than that.” You are contradicting yourself; moreover, you seem to be confused.

  351. May 30, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    im a man, not a rat. that confuses you? i had the chance to narc people off and i didnt. if josh narced people off, he is a narc, and therefore a rat. im not understanding what you are disagreeing with me about, we seem to both think that narcs are rats…..

    about the “morality” issue:
    its all a matter of point of view. a “law and order” type of individual would say that its a persons “moral” obligation to be a narc, while a pot grower would say that its a “moral” obligation to NOT be a narc.

  352. Beowulf
    May 30, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    So morality is relative? It changes depending upon who you are? In your example above the real questions are: is growing pot moral; is the legal prohibition on growing pot wrong? Whether your a cop or a grower won’t change the answers or the ethics involved.

  353. May 30, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    ah….so, all cops and all growers have exactly the same morals and ethics…gotcha…

    i had no idea that humans were so alike….

  354. Beowulf
    May 30, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    I am saying that if the each hold opposing views on a question of ethics one is wrong and the other is right. Example: individual A thinks lying, stealing and defrauding are morally acceptable; individual B thinks they are not. Individual B is right and individual A is wrong. Do you understand?

  355. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 30, 2008 at 4:55 pm


    You haven’t gotten [“gotcha”] anyone! All you’ve done is suceed in making a complete and total ass of yourself! Do yourself and everyone on this thread a favor and enroll in a critical thinking class at your local junior college. Seriously dude, you really do sound like a total idiot. SImply put, what you’re saying just doesn’t make sense. I know we’ve had our jousts, but I’m not trying to be a dick here, man. I’m trying to help you. Let’s make a deal, bro: I won’t rip on you anymore, if you learn the basics of debate. Fair?

    A wise man once said: “When you’re in a hole, stop digging.” Meditate on that Theo.

    Peace, PP

  356. passing through
    May 30, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    theo’s too much of a man to narc anyone off but its survival of the fittest remember. you sound like an idiot.

  357. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    let you know later:

    Thank you for all the priceless information you’ve offered on this thread. Your unique perspective offers us some rare gems, and really enlivens the dialogue about the Hedlund matter.

    I’m patiently awaiting news about ‘picture day’, as that was always Josh’s favorite day in school, when he got to get all dolled up and smile pretty (sleazily) for the camera.

  358. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 30, 2008 at 5:02 pm


    I got a great laugh from the Pink Panther analogy! :-)

    Still chuckling a bit, actualy.

    Poor, poor Theo.

  359. May 30, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    so….im bad for NOT narcing people off? sorry, i want the economy of this county to survive. i have no desire to take down growers. i think josh is a rat if he narced people off. move on….

    and yes, i still believe in survival of the fittest. after all the years, darwin’s theory rings true. i respect religious freedom, but i think all people who believe in the supernatural are nutcases who are living in the stone ages.

  360. Porfiry Petrovich
    May 31, 2008 at 4:17 pm


    I just have to ask…WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!

    Have you even read Origin of the Species!?

    Are you a Social Darwinist?

    Define supernatural.

    “nutcases living in the stone ages” ? So you’re an economist and an archeologist and anthropologist?

    A jack (ass) of all trades, but ace of none!

  361. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 1, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    I’m waiting, Theo. :-)

  362. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 3, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    “Hedlund will be sentenced May 16, and faces $500,000 in fines and twenty years in prison.”

    My, my, my how things have changed since this article was first posted.

    It’s June and Hedlund is where? Doing what?

  363. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 3, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    let you know later:

    how did picture day go?

  364. Anonymous
    June 3, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Picture day was canceled, which was fine by me because I forgot my comb.

  365. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 4, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Silly boy, forgetting your comb on picture day like that.

  366. let you know later
    June 6, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    no, no picture day was not canceled, I’ve just been very busy.

    And yes punk ass joshee poo was there but I do not know for how long because my friend was only in the same pod with him for about a week.–too bad.

    word is that old punk ass is up to his same tricks and there will be an evidentary hearing on july 20th. maybe we should all go and freak him out.

  367. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 8, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    let you know later:

    Good to hear from you again. After I thought about it for a while I figured that anon probably wasn’t you, but just some one clowing around.

    Damn! Now the date is pushed out to July 20th!? Funny how all those other dates have just come and gone, eh!? An “evidentary hearing” you say… . Very interesting information.

    Strength in numbers at the hearing…you might be on to something there. Just to see the look on his face!

    Thanks again “know”…you’ve always got solid info.

  368. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 8, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    ATTEN Theo, M&M, Spitfire, Disruptor, and all you other doubters:

    “picture day was not canceled…yes punk ass joshee poo was there [in Santa Rita]…for about a week. word is that old punk ass [Josh Lonetree Hedlund] is up to his same dirty tricks. there will be an evidentiary hearing on july 20th.”

    Isn’t it strange that all this “new shit has come to light”!?

    Makes ya wonder doesn’t it?

  369. Cut & Paste
    June 9, 2008 at 12:16 am

    not amused by PP Says:
    March 28, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Do you even know Josh, or Ben??? If you don’t then I have to laugh at you…..I see all this..where is Josh now, where is Ben..i know where they both are and you don’t so HAHAHAHA! How is that for an annoying post? PP you should write a book about this scandal, might be a best seller. Just make sure you never let anyone local who are friends of the Hedlunds know what you look like.

  370. Beowulf
    June 9, 2008 at 11:06 am

    “never let anyone local who are friends of the Hedlunds know what you look like.” I doubt there are too many in that camp, not much to worry about.

  371. June 9, 2008 at 11:18 am

    PP is a cop, not an author…

  372. Beowulf
    June 9, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Theo is just mad because PP made him look silly.

  373. theo therme
    June 9, 2008 at 11:45 am

    i like being silly. that doesnt change the fact that PP is a cop. most likely, federal…..

  374. Beowulf
    June 9, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Yea Theo, those Feds are way into Dostoevsky.

  375. PP
    June 10, 2008 at 12:34 am


    You’re so right, so smart… . How could I ever fool a genius like you? You got me, I’m a cop. I give up. I’m local PD, no wait,,,…country sherriff, uh, I mean federal agent.

    Trivia: Do you know where the word sheriff comes from?

    Answer: from Old English, “shire reef”, the reef of the shire, meaning the one who went around collecting taxes, keeping law and order in England. Ya know, like during Robin Hood’s time!? Wait, was he real? :-)

    Porfiry Petrovich is a detective in Dostoyevsky’s, “Crime and Punishment”, so you’re not too far off there Theo. Oh, that’s right, you’re not much of a reader.

  376. PP
    June 10, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Cut and Paste:

    So, uh, what’s your point in re-posting on old blog? A dumb one at that. A laughable threat made by an obvious little wanna be internet tough guy!

    Just for the record, I’ve never met Ben in person, but I know Josh very well and could pick him out in a crowded room in a second. It might help to read the previous blogs before spouting off like a jack-ass. Just a thought, guy!

  377. PP
    June 10, 2008 at 12:44 am

    Oh yeah, Theo, one more thing,

    If you “like to be silly” as you plainly put it, you’ve certainly accomplished that. In fact now that I think about it, that’s pretty much all you’ve done.

  378. theo therme
    June 10, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    PP could pick out Josh in a room…..wow, that proves hes not a narc……

    Does PP know Josh “very well” or does he know what Josh looks like? Big difference.

    Cops trying to get information on a blog has to be a new tactic….

  379. let you know later
    June 10, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    I know joshee poo and benny boy both, but joshee poo very well.

    lets see, a ways back ol joshee poo drove an Audi, wrecked it then got a Toureg and a lifted GMC truck, or is that just a lucky guess.— PP’s description an the other thread is pretty right on, just want to add the beaddie eyes and long arms.

    The evidentary hearing is actually june 20th not july. (sorry) this was his former sentencing date but it seems that he is up to his old tricks lying and trying to blame someone else for his actions. What he doesnt know is how this could backfire on him drastically. (maybe he should of gotten a better lawyer.) remind me of this evidentary hearing.

    Everybody remember that when he is finally sentenced I will give specific times, dates, places, names and incidents that will be indisputable.

    Then I will throw a party and you are all invited.

  380. theo therme
    June 10, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Rob Arkley is my best friend because I know what kind of vehicle he drives and I can pick him out in a room……

    how many cops are on the blogsites looking for info?

  381. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 11, 2008 at 11:46 am

    let you know:

    I remember the Audi too. It was a 4dr black A8, right? He wrecked that too!? Geez! The guy must’ve got his lic out of a Cracker Jack box. How could I forget the long arms? Almost out of proportion to the rest of his body, LOL! “Beady eyes” pretty much hits the nail on the head.

    Patiently awaiting additional, post-sentencing info.

    I’ll design the party invitations!

  382. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 11, 2008 at 11:53 am


    Do you even make sense to yourself?

    Do you have a wife, girlfriend, or close friend near by that can proof your comments before you submit them? Before you submit yourself to looking like a child?

    Once again I’m forced to ask: “What the Hell are you talking about, guy!?” “What’s your point!?”

  383. theo therme
    June 11, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    PP, im pointing out how easy it is to know what a person looks like and what vehicle they drive. you dont KNOW josh. you are a cop trying to get dirt from the online community….

    according to your theory, i KNOW rob arkley because i know what he looks like and what vehicle he drives……

    cops are so obvious…….

  384. Beowulf
    June 11, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    Theo where is your evidence of PP being a cop? I don’t think you really believe PP is a cop but are just trying to keep the focus off Josh. You are very eager to defend him. Why? Furthermore, why would the Feds or other cops need to look here for info on Josh. Since Josh made a deal with the Feds, the Feds now own Josh. They can get anything they want from him, if he lies he jeopardizes his reduced sentence.

    As far as Kevin Hoover goes, I don’t know about him but would like to hear more if what newby says is true.

  385. let you know later
    June 11, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Theo you really sound like a fool. –I know josh very very well and llike i said before i will give all the info that is needed in due time. I must ask though, why do yo defend josh so much? Whats your objective here, because I only want to get the truth out there.

    you really sound like a child with you continual claims of PP being a cop, what Beo said is absolutely correct.

    please shut up or make a valid point.

  386. let you know later
    June 11, 2008 at 8:32 pm


    Yea, the black Audi but I think it was an A4, but who cares we know what we are talking about.

    I will keep you posted

  387. Beowulf
    June 12, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    Just looked at Judge Jensen’s calendar it says: 6/20 def. Josh Hedlund status to reset sentencing. Guess the celebration will have to be put off yet again. This guy must be setting a record for most sentencing postponements, he must be a real ass(et) to the feds. What’s the matter Josh was Santa Rita’s decor not appointed to your liking, was the food too bland for your sensitive palate? Just face it Josh you can only put off the inevitable for so long, I hope that soon you find yourself in a real shit-hole that is suitable for a guy like you. Something tells me that despite your scheming your general ineptitude will win out and your actions will come back to haunt you ten-fold in the end.

  388. June 12, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Anybody know how many LLCs have Schectman’s name on them?

  389. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 13, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    “we know what we’re talking about”

    -let you know later

    Need I say more Theo.

  390. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 13, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    WOW! That’s so weird how Josh’s sentencing was postponed AGAIN! I mean I really can’t believe it, I never would’ve thought that would happen, especially since it’s already happened a few times now! HUH!?

  391. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 13, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Usually PP can’t help himself from compulsive blogging, but “Beo” and “let you know” hit the nail smack on the head, perfectly! Thanks guys for watchin’ my back, my dogs. :-)

    I have nothing more to add your honor. I concur.

  392. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 13, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Good question Rose.

    Anybody got any dirt on Schectman?

    p.s. like the switch to the white rose, very spring, very summerish

  393. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 13, 2008 at 8:53 pm


    Please take a moment of your time to take part in this brief survey.

    Do you think PP is a cop?

    YES or NO.

    You may submit your response at anytime.


  394. let you know later
    June 13, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    No, but I think that Theo Therm is actually inspector Kluesoe.

  395. daar
    June 13, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    how much time will josh get? predictions?

  396. Anonymous
    June 14, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    daar who?

  397. June 14, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    It’s Theo ThermE (previously known as the other me) and it’s Inspector Clouseau,

  398. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 15, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    I knew what you meant, let you know. I liked the ref, made for a good laugh, goes along with Beo’s Pink Panther :-)

  399. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm


    Whatever time Josh does serve (if he ever does get sentenced) will end up being a fraction of what he should serve. Hell, at this rate maybe the feds will just put him on the payroll and keep him out of the pen indefinitely. Stranger things have happened.

  400. 8grand
    June 17, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    whats funny is after its all done and said these kids arent shit…….they made marijuana who they are and have nothing to show for it…on the other hand, i know of kids who quietly go about their lives and run their 2,000 watts consistently for a few years in an organized fashion and not only do they keep themselves from office slavery by creating a living for themselves, but also go on some nice vacations and have a nice savings….they actually have no legal problems, debts, or enemies….just clean lives sleeing in all day on a permanent vacation….do it for 20 years and one is rich….so after its all done and said, be patient and appreciative and good things will happen eventually…..

  401. Beowulf
    June 17, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    You are right Josh isn’t shit, he wasn’t patient and he confused money with self-worth. Now he has lots of legal problems, debts, and enemies. So after it is all said and done Josh is a failure and a loser.

  402. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 18, 2008 at 1:11 am


    No one is debating the guy who fires up a dozen lights in his garage, makes a nice little chunk a’ change and lives on the downlow.

    What we’re concerned with here is someone who, as Beo said, “confused money with self-worth”, and more tragically, sold out his “friends” to save his own ass. Josh is someone who swindled and stole, cheated and lied, threatened and extorted, and when he got caught as the guy behind massive grow ops and shady land deals, started snitching people off like there was no tomorrow. Not cool.

    Urging people to “be patient and appreciative” is a mockery to their suffering and loss! Furthermore, such thinking is delusional. The idea that good things will just happen is foolhardy and Polyanic. The REALITY is that sometimes bad shit happens to good people for no reason, and sometimes evil people do fucked up shit and get away with it. So let’s avoid the type of thinking that smacks of the “you create your own reality” ideology.

    “Good things will happen eventually” when Josh goes to the pen and this nasty little snitch is removed from society.

  403. Porfiry Petrovich
    June 24, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Josh Lonetree Hedlund’s June 20th sentencing date was postponed, AGAIN! Just check Judge Jenson’s callendar.

    Huh, doesn’t anyone think this is a just a little bit weird?

    It’s been over six months since Josh was SUPPOSED to be sentenced, if I’m correct, and yet here we are, a half year later and the guy is still out there!!!

    At the risk of sounding like a paranoid conspiracy nut, what if the recent and large DEA presence in Humboldt and Mendocino Cos is somehow related to Josh’s cooperation. Today’s report on this blog states that these busts are a result of a two year long investigation into large scale grows, not medical operations. How long ago was it that Josh first got busted?

    It may be a little far fetched to connect Josh with these current events, I’ll admit. But no one can over look the fact that Joshee-poo has yet to be sentenced. We can only ask why?


  404. Beowulf
    August 1, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    11:00 AM (r)11:00AM CRIMINAL MATTER
    CR06-00346 United States v Joshua Hedlund
    [E-filing case]
    Def Hedlund motion to dismiss
    Scheduling to re-set sentencing date
    How can one who has already plead guilty file a motion to dismiss? Anybody know about this?

  405. let you know later
    August 7, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    one of the charges joshee poo plead to after ratting out his friend Kite was money laundering. There was a recent Supreme court ruling on money laundering that favors the defendant, if the judge denies hearing this motion it could be grounds for appeal. joshee poo has no chance

  406. Beowulf, Porfiry = Cop
    August 16, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Lay off the overtime bud. Justice prevails. Your distortion and perversion of the “truth” exposes who you really are. Get a partner and settle down, it is time for you to focus on your self. Let the healing begin.

  407. Beowulf
    August 16, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Nice try joshee-poo.

  408. Beowulf
    August 16, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Do you have any reasons to support your mindless accusations and baseless assumptions?

  409. Beowulf: RSS Feed or what?
    August 16, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Is your newfangled federally funded technology available to the rest of us locals in Humboldt? Anyway that you can assist our community in outing you as the cop (rat) that you are would be greatly appreciated. Was it the math, computer science, or philosophy program that you dropped out of at Berkeley? You know the private sector pays a lot more than the federal salary. What motivates you? The feeling of power?

  410. Beowulf
    August 17, 2008 at 12:20 am

    More groundless smear tactics, yawn. Got any evidence for your lame attempts to guess my identity? Clearly you don’t as your way off base. Actually, I graduated from “one of those schools on the East Coast.” I would like to quote Mr. Eastwood and say that a guy like you (Joshee-poo) should shut his face; however, I can’t since you are talking out your ass.

  411. Beowulf
    August 17, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Josh, you’re so easy to spot when you use pet phrases like “what motivates you” and post at length about Big Lagoon’s corporate structure. You silly self styled “property rights” expert. Baaahaaaaaaa

  412. Beowulf
    September 5, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    11:00 AM (r)11:00AM CRIMINAL MATTER
    CR06-00346 United States v Joshua Hedlund
    [E-filing case]

    Whoooooo hoooooooooo haaaaaaaaaaa

    Justice delayed is better than no justice at all. Almost time to pop the champagne corks.

  413. Beowulf
    September 5, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    September 12th ^^^

  414. Beowulf
    September 11, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    11:00 AM (r)11:00AM CRIMINAL MATTER-NEW DATE COMING?(10/3)
    CR06-00346 United States v Joshua Hedlund
    [E-filing case]

    Arrgh, new date coming? Say it ain’t so. Joshee-poo, you little prima-dona, stop being such a sissy, trying to delay the inevitable and do the time you have coming. I’m sure it will be much less than you deserve. Remember what you have said about taking responsibility for your actions? Well now is the time. Or do you plan to continue to inflict suffering on others in order to further reduce your sentence?

  415. Anonymous
    September 13, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    nice try josh now you see where loyalties lay. I’d stop now or i will expose you, stop your antics and face the music. remember where loyalties lay.

  416. Anonymous
    September 30, 2008 at 8:15 pm


  417. Anonymous
    September 30, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Ken Estes was one of the “owners” of the schmook ranch parcels.

  418. let you know later
    October 1, 2008 at 8:15 pm


    August 11th eight of the parcels on the schmook ranch were raided by the DEA, you know the parcels that joshee poo sold to these victims. over 1200 plants, greenhouses and full sun. what were these people thinking, did they not know that joshee was under indictment? I feel sorry for them.

    another thing that everyone should know is that after a little research I have found out that the Mclean trust still holds the non reconveyance title to all of the schmook ranch parcels. Josh sold them without asking for reconveyance of title. Most of the buyers probably do know what that means but it basically means they have no rights to the property that they are growing on, risking their fredom so that they can pay josh ridiculous mortgage payments.—–THIS IS JOSHEE POOS BUSINESS MODEL.

    I guess it doesn’t really matter because the Mclean trust has started the forclosure process on the Schmook Ranch. If you know anyone who is still making payments to him pass this information on have hem check it out for themselves if they are not locked up.

    his sentencing is on this friday,10/3/08 lets have a party!

  419. Why can't you cops play by the rules?
    October 1, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Let you know later, You should be ashamed. You took an oath as an officer of the court. Your disrespect for our judicial system is truly disgusting.

  420. let you know later
    October 2, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Cop? You mean concerned citizen, happy citizen to see this manipulating, lying, cheating egomaniac get his just due. I payed by the rules of the game and joshee poo, (you) fucked me and countless other people.

    You can keep calling me a cop all you want joshee but your the one who ratted out your friend Kite to save your own chicken shit ass. WHO’S WORKING FOR THE COPS HERE?

  421. Beowulf
    October 2, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    10:00 AM (r)10:00AM CRIMINAL MATTER
    CR06-00346 United States v Joshua Hedlund
    [E-filing case]

    I guess little lying Joshee-poo finally ran out of delays (i.e people to rat on); can’t wait to to see what kind of sentence the punk gets. Whatever it is it’ll be too short. Wonder if the little coward is still planning to run?

  422. Beowulf
    October 11, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Sentencing delayed again until the 17th. I wonder what the reason for the delay is this time, his appeal failed. Anybody know?

  423. concerned citizen
    October 21, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    all of you people are lame and have way too much time on your hands to be discussing someone else’s life for 8 months. get a life.

  424. Porfiry Petrovich
    November 11, 2008 at 2:14 am

    Dear let you know later:

    Thank you so much for all the interesting and valuable information re: Josh Hedlund that you have provided over the last year. Your knowledge has enlivened and enlightened this whole matter considerably. Plus your shit is just great fun to read!

    Godspeed “Later”, Godspeed!

  425. Porfiry Petrovich
    November 11, 2008 at 2:18 am

    Beo isn’t just a cop from a police academy on the East Coast. He’s also Special Forces. He told me so when we were spying on Josh at a fasion show in LA once.

  426. Anonymous
    November 11, 2008 at 8:27 am

    all of you people are lame and have way too much time on your hands to be discussing someone else’s life for 8 months. get a life.

    Heh, I was thinking the same thing. I don’t know the issue or the people involved, but every time I see comments pop up here, it reminds me some people walk around with pretty thick chips on their shoulders. Everyone involved leads a sad existence. A life half-lived.

  427. Beowulf
    November 12, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Friday 11/21/2008

    11:00 AM (r)11:00AM CRIMINAL MATTER
    CR06-00346 United States v Joshua Hedlund
    [E-filing case]
    Set new Sentencing Date

    Josh still hasn’t been sentenced, this must be some kind of record. Why all the delays Josh?

    Anonymous at 8:27: You admit that you “don’t know the issue or the people involved” yet you pass judgment. Yours is a brain half-used. No one is forcing you to read the thread; seems like you are the one with a chip on his shoulder.

  428. Beowulf
    January 14, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Friday 01/16/2009

    10:00 AM (r)10:00AM CRIMINAL MATTER
    CR06-00346 United States v Joshua Hedlund
    [E-filing case]

    Will justice finally be done? Or will there yet another delay?

  429. let you know later
    February 24, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    2/27/09 this seems to be the day. I think he has run out of options now. He has been trying to weasel his way out of paying his forfieture. (he doesn’t want to give up the money he stole) Anyone know about the Wisconsin case that punk ass joshee poo is wrapped up in? I have a lot more info to give, just don’t have time right now. will post later

  430. Beowulf
    February 24, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Wisconsin case? It never ends with this guy. Can’t wait for your update.

  431. N/A
    February 28, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    What is the Wisconsin case? What happened on fri?

  432. let you know later
    March 1, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    33 months for the punk ass. The wisconsin case has to do with the raids on reed mountain last august, some of the people josh was involved in were moving shit out there and they got caught. he is named in the case in that precinct. poor boy.
    He will probably do about two and a half years considering you do 85% in the federall system for good time. He might be able to get into the drug program if the prision he is sent to offers it, then he could possibly get a year taken off his sentence, wouldn’t that suck!
    His schmook ranch properties are in default and he keeps borrowing to delay the inevitable. I guess with all those people getting busted last year because of his greediness means payments are not coming in to pay off his note. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE CREATED JOSHEE POO, IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE!

  433. Porfiry Petrovich
    March 1, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Let anyone who still thinks Josh is a good guy, that Josh is not a snitch, that Josh is the honorable and legitimate business man he claims he is, come forward and speak now or for ever hold your peace.

    Thank you, “let you know…” for all of the detailed and concise information you have provided over the last year or so.

    Verdict: Josh Lonetree Hedlund is a lying, thieving, coniving, shit talking, snitch-ass punk mother fucker!

  434. N/A
    March 1, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Who’d he snitch on, where is the evidence, yeah the feds got him, and he f’d up and got a lot of decent people into bad situations, but where is the evidence that he is a snitch? When does he go into custody?

  435. Beowulf
    March 1, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    N/a have you read this thread? Re: Kite, Josh’s partner who went down right after Josh got busted while out on bail? Why do you think Josh only got 33 months?

  436. Beowulf
    March 1, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    LYKL: do you know if Josh could still get time on the Wisconsin case? One can only hope.

  437. N/A
    March 1, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Yeah I read the thread, but I found no hard evidence, only the fact that Kite went down after Josh, no link other than that, Did I miss something?

  438. Beowulf
    March 1, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Yes, you missed that Josh did not remain in custody after being arrested in violation of his bail terms, which never happens unless the violator trades info for his freedom. Also Josh’s sentence was extremely light for his crimes. As for hard evidence, you are probably not going to find a video link of Josh cooperating here. Draw your own conclusions; you have a right to your own opinion. If you still think Sadam has WMDs buried, that’s your prerogative.

  439. Josh Had Land
    March 2, 2009 at 9:25 am

    In the court transcript of the sentencing the prosecution made it very clear that there was no cooperation. The pending cases (Wisconsin, etc.) do not have any cooperation. All defendants, if questioned, would state that there was no cooperation. The government does not spend those kind of resources against people that cooperate. The record speaks for itself, there was no cooperation.

  440. Beowulf
    March 2, 2009 at 11:28 am

    Riiiiiight, Josh had land that he bought with stolen money and received an extraordinarily light sentence. We believe you; after all, you are known for your honesty.

  441. Mr. Nice
    March 2, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Hedlund gets busted for his urban grow-op and suddenly his hippy friends get popped in the middle of nowhere. Afterwars, other busts come down on the heads of other hippies with fruity names like Darkstar Tripitsbeen. Either Hedlund’s rampant snitching makes Raymond Chow’s testimony seem like instructions from Bernardo Provenzano or this is all just a bizarre coincidence.

  442. Josh Had Land
    March 2, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Extraordinary light sentence?

    5,000 acres, $931,904.90 dollars, 33 months in prison.

    Sentenced for “knowingly allowing Jonathan Ford, Derek O’ Day, and Brian O’ Leary to use the warehouse at 807 and 809 Allston Way in Berkeley to grow marijuana”.

    The government did very well.

    A snitch might get a sentence like O’ Day or O’ Leary. O’Day = 6 months house arrest and a $7,500 fine. O’ Leary = 3 months in prison and a $20,183.86 fine. Ford is soon to be sentenced now that it is no longer necessary that he testify. We will see how his sentence compares.

    Sentencing disparity?

  443. Beowulf
    March 2, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    You were the ring leader and chief profiteer Josh, the prosecution probably saw those others as pawns whom you manipulated. Besides all the government took from you was ill gotten to begin with. By the way, since your posting, have you spoken to Kite lately? I guess he was just collateral damage in the process of looking out for number one.

  444. Josh Had Land
    March 2, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Is Number One the DEA?

    Kite’s bust was due to illegal use of infra red by the DEA. Collateral damage is the hurt that was brought to his children as the DEA chased them on their suped up quads with expensive after market rims. Helicopter pick ups of his family in the middle of the Eel River was our tax money at work. Threatening mothers and children to try to get them to cooperate against their father, the DEA really went over board on that one.

    I haven’t spoken with Kite but I do appreciate the strength that he showed while the DEA illegally invaded his ranch. He has always been a man that I respect and admire.

  445. Beowulf
    March 3, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    “SAN FRANCISCO – United States Attorney Kevin V. Ryan announced that Timothy Dellas was sentenced to ten years in prison and five years supervised release for manufacturing marijuana and possessing marijuana with the intent to distribute. This sentence is the result of an investigation by the United States Drug Enforcement Administration, the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

    Mr. Dellas, 51, of Manilla, California, was convicted on May 4, 2006 for the manufacture of marijuana and possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute by a San Francisco jury after a six-day trial. The jury determined that Mr. Dellas possessed and manufactured more than 1,000 marijuana plants.”

    See Josh, I would have thought your sentence would be more like Dellas’ or one of the many others who have received stiffer penalties than yours for lesser crimes. As for court transcripts I’m sure a clever guy like you could find a way around that. I say if it looks like a rat and walks like a rat and smells like a rat, its a rat. By the way, you have an odd way of showing your “admiration.”

  446. Josh Had Land
    March 3, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Beowulf unless you know Dellas leave him out of this. I will say again that you should lay off the overtime. You have no idea of what it takes to stand strong against the federal government, I do and certainly Tim Dellas does. Once I am through with prison and off supervised release maybe I can speak to you in a language you understand. Until then why don’t you give me a call or shoot me an email. I have to be civil. What are you afraid of? 415-850-7118 or joshhedlund@yahoo.com

  447. Beowulf
    March 3, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Wow Josh that sounds like a threat, you shouldn’t let this situation get under your skin like that. I would love to have a long talk with you in person, one on one, just me and you.

  448. SoHumNoob
    March 4, 2009 at 4:37 am

    In this economy expect more people like me to start
    (as tad says) a “busyness” in the hills and/or houses.

    I for one am going to ready myself for legalization.
    Big time, big dreams! Overgrow the Government!

    I think a networking/support group/club for farmers
    is called for.

    We could meet at tads,



  449. Josh Had Land
    March 4, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    This is from the Wednesday, March 4th edition of the Recorder on page 5. The same publication that the prior article came from.


    A day after Attorny General Eric Holder announced a ceasefire in the federal government’s war against medical marijuana co-ops, Northern District Judge D. Lowell Jensen sentenced a real estate developer turned pot profiteer to roughly half of what prosecutors sought.
    Assistant U.S. Attorney Keslie Stewart and the probation office argued last week that defendant Josh Hedlund should serve 63 months for his ownership of a Berkeley warehouse in which police found thousands of marijuana plants. Hedlund also faced hefty restitution related to land sales in Humboldt County to pot growers.
    While Hedlund’s co-defendants cooperated with the government, Hedlund did not, Stewart said. Yet Jensen, who called the Holder decision “interesting background” sentenced Hedlund to 33 months in prison and lopped off $880,000 in forfeiture — a little less than half of the total amount – because of an imperfectly drafted plea agreement.
    “How can I say it wasn’t a fair sentence? I can’t,” said Hedlund’s attorney Santa Rosa solo Chris Andrian.
    Speaking after the sentencing, U.S. Attorney Joseph Russoniello said he hoped the enormous cost of Hedlund’s defense – plus the prison time – would serve as a deterrent to others. But Russoniello said it wouldn’t be enough to deter Hedlund, who the government says continued doing business with known pot growers well after his indictment.
    “I expect we’ll see him again, and we’ll deal with him again,” Russoniello said.

    — Dan Levine

  450. Beowulf
    March 4, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Nice quintuple post Josh, but I don’t think it makes your point. After all you now must concede the obvious, that your sentence is extremely light. Also you would have us believe that the federal authorities whom you are so quick to disparage elsewhere are now telling the gospel truth? Is it not conceivable that a public statement confirming your non-cooperation was part of the deal you made? Regardless, you are a liar and a punk.

  451. SoHumNoob
    March 4, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Sentenced to jail were violent ass pumpers may have their way with him for a plant God put here?

    I think it is a cruel punishment for something that never should have been made illegal in the first place.

    Thanks a lot Harry Anslinger you butt dumpling!!!!!



    P.S. Now I quote Emerson:

    Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist.
    He who would gather immortal palms must not be
    hindered by the name of goodness, but must explore
    if it be goodness.

    Ralph Waldo Emerson

  452. Beowulf
    March 4, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Sohumnoob: I can tell that your heart is in the right place and I enjoyed the Emerson quote, however you should realize that not everyone who grows herb is kind, if you catch my drift. This Josh Hedlund for instance is a conniving, back stabbing, double talking chump who deserves a far harsher sentence than he received. Peace unto you, Sohumnoob.

  453. Amanda's Dad
    March 6, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Hey, Josh Had Land,
    This is Amanda Wood’s dad — Jim used to have a daughter & three grandkids (quite a handle). I’d gladly give up the name just to see my grandkids again.
    The person you so respect, and whom probably idolizes you, took off with all of them several months ago and left a very large wake of emotional and financial damage, that will take years to sort out.
    $350,000 bail to cover and lawsuits that will make nobody but lawyers wealthier. Kite screwed over not just a group of family and friends who went out on a limb for them, but also royally screwed his own brother.
    Oh well! as long as Kite gained his urban legend status. Shows me the greedy assholes aren’t just on Wall St.
    On your behalf though, Josh, at least you hung around and dealt with it.

  454. Beowulf
    March 7, 2009 at 12:05 am

    I truly hope the situation with Kite and his family is resolved in as positive a manner as possible, it must be a very hard for everyone concerned. Maybe Kite would not have run if he thought he would only receive a two year sentence like Josh did. Here is some food for thought from the Alameda DA’s office:

    “Utilizing confidential informants to obtain incriminating information has been described as “dirty business.” And it certainly is. After all, the average CI is a “denizen of the underworld” who is assisting officers because he wants something, usually a break in a pending criminal case. As the court noted in U.S. v. Bernal-Obseo, “Criminals caught in our system understand they can mitigate their own problems with the law by becoming a witness against someone else. ”It is also dirty business because CI’s—known in the trade as “snitches,” “stool pigeons,” “turncoats,” “snakes,” “rats,” and much worse—are “cut from untrustworthy cloth” and will lie and exaggerate when it suits their purposes.
    For obvious reasons, however, CI’s will flatly refuse to assist officers unless they are confident that their identity will be kept secret. In the words of the Court of Appeal, “The vast majority of information concerning crime received by police authorities comes from informants who would not give such information if they could not be promised concealment of their identity.” Because of this, the law gives officers a right—or “privilege”—to refuse to disclose a CI’s identity to anyone. They may even refuse to disclose information that would tend to reveal his identity. In other words, the privilege “protects not only the informant’s name but also those portions of communication from and about the informant which would tend to reveal his or her identity.”

    The sequence and substance of events surrounding Josh remain highly suspicious.

  455. N/A
    March 7, 2009 at 1:15 am

    It sounds like, unless someone was in the courtroom and has hard factual evidence, that no one will ever know, so maybe… just maybe… we should move on?

  456. Josh Had Land
    March 7, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Beowulf, Porfiry, etc. Why don’t you call me or email me?

    I gave you every opportunity to act like a businessman years ago. I may still be able to forgive you for your youthful indiscretions:

    Remember you told people that you will do 4 years if I do 10 years. You contacted a Humboldt County Sherriff and the Mendocino County drug task force. You threatened a good man and his wife with bodily harm rather than just showing them proof of ownership.

    People in the community know who you are and that you did these things.

    My case isn’t sealed and I have dealt with numerous reputable lawyers who talk to each other about who the informants are. Infact I know your lawyer in downtown Santa Rosa and a few of my friends share office space with him. You can talk to anyone in the legal community, read the public record via PACER, and read the court transcripts. The Prosecution knows how hard I defended myself. It has taken my resources and most of my time to get to this sentence. No one involved in my case has ever accused me of being an informant, because I am not.

    Beowulf (Porfiry) you will not find redemption by making me out to be the informant that you were. You were a young man and you made a mistake. Learn from it.

    Why don’t you put this behind you and move on with your life?

  457. SoHumNoob
    March 7, 2009 at 12:20 pm


    Seems to be a lot of haters out there. I respect a businessman
    like you. I only wish I had the opportunity to become
    a big time grower like you. It must take a lot of courage.

    I don’t everyones story in this nor would I want to. I just hope that you guys can love, patch it up, and smoke a nice bowl together.

    Sad that love is lost in the world of prohibition with all the lies and hate having marijuana illegal brings with it.

    Rag on the DEA and our sorry governments for making a living off the pain they cause others.

    They brought you guys to this.



  458. SoHumNoob
    March 7, 2009 at 12:37 pm


    I wish to edit my last comment.

    I said, “I wish I could become a big time grower like you”

    It should read, I wish I could become a big time grower.

    No offense.



  459. N/A
    March 7, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    who are beowulf and porfiry Josh?, you should not hold back, they certainly are not, lets air it all out, let the rest of the community know who they are!

  460. Beowulf
    March 7, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Josh, it is sad that you have screwed over so many people that you have no idea who I am; however, your guesses continue to amuse me. As far as reading the court transcripts, talking to the prosecutors, and etc. to prove your non-cooperation, I think the documents I have provided prove conclusively that if the authorities are motivated to keep your cooperation hidden then they are quite capable of doing so. The fact is you were arrested while out on bail from a federal case (it is rumored you were en route from a meeting with Kite from whom you had picked up a large amount of cash.) Now normally an offender such as you would have been placed in custody for the remainder of your trail. But lo and behold Josh was miraculously released. Then Kite got busted. Then Joshee-poo finally got sentenced and surprise, surprise it was a very, very light sentence indeed. Coincidentally, why did Josh go through so many attorneys? Was it because some attorneys don’t work with snitches? Or maybe Josh was just too much of a little punk for some of them to take despite the generous fees they were receiving from him?

    So hum noob, I don’t like Josh because he is a duplicitous, conniving, little jerk, who leaves financial, environmental, and human destruction in his wake, wherever he goes. He has absolutely no compunction about putting others in harms way, if by doing so he can make a buck. If you think josh has “a lot of courage” you are mistaken. In fact it is his lack of courage and innate insecurity that drives him to harm others. In fact I was told a story about how once a man Josh was in the process of defrauding confronted Josh. Now at the time Josh didn’t have a gun or any paid back-up, so the guy just told Josh that if he was not going to deal honestly that he might as well get a man to man ole fashin ass whoop-in. Josh was so scared that he literally ran away on the verge of tears, practically peeing himself, proclaiming that he didn’t want any trouble. Apparently Josh was so mortified at his loss of face, that he had been shown to be a little coward, that he went on a malicious spree of thievery thereafter.

    N/A: as far as moving on, I will do so when Josh shows some contrition and attempts to right the wrongs he has done. Otherwise I’m on that shit, warning others and hoping i can prevent any further victimization. If you don’t like it piss-off.

  461. Josh Had Land
    March 8, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Call me.

  462. Anonymous
    March 8, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    well, well, well, HAD A LAND? what abot the hillcrest properties, san geronimo the schmook ranch and the coffee shop joshee poo? I’m sure that there are many others also. who do you think you are fooling?
    Attwater, taft or lompoc? — thats right you are probably going out of state because they never leave anyone in there home state that didn’t cooperate, and cost them so much time and money.—Ha HA HA!!!!!!! you punk.
    when you ripped off your partener for not paying you (because he figured out your scam) what did you think would happen? and look at how many more lives it cost

  463. N/A
    March 8, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    We want details “anonymous 5:59”, your saying there was no cooperation, thats not what beowulf is saying? Who’d he rip off, and for what, and how? This thread is so grey, im sure all of thereaders would love some details.

  464. Anonymous
    March 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Beowolf=Nelson is that you….sure sounds like it?

  465. Anonymous
    March 9, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    of course he cooperated, iwas just fooling with him. hey joshee poo your transcripts are not sealed but your cooperation agreement is, they always are you fool!!!!!!! who do you think that you are fooling.
    880,000 lopped off? I don’t think so with all the funds seized prior to plea agreement plus the $411,000 at sentencing it is well over 1 million dollars. Are you trying to act like you had a minor victory or what? admit to everything that has been said about you.

  466. Anonymous
    March 9, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    I suspect Taft. will find out

  467. Anonymous
    March 9, 2009 at 8:19 pm


  468. Beowulf
    March 9, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Nelson? Who? Nelson Mandela? Or maybe Full Nelson?

  469. Unbelievable
    May 18, 2009 at 10:44 am

    An Open Letter to Amanda Wood and Kite Finds the Feather,

    I can’t believe you are letting this happen!

    The courts are threatening to take a couple of homes to pay for your bail…
    They have already made Rio sell his property, but in this market it only covered a small portion of the bail. There is still more than $200K owed on your bail.
    AND there are lawyers and bounty hunters to pay — already totaling more than $50K (and growing).

    You could still come back.

    Kite, you would only have to do a few years in jail.
    Amanda, you would be able to raise your children.
    Your families will be there to support and help you.

    It is the right thing to do.

    You did the crime, you need to take responsibility for your mistake.

    Give yourselves up and it will be over in a few years. Everyone will be able to get on with their lives.

    If you stay away, you will be sentencing yourselves, your children, parents, brothers and numerous friends to a lifetime of suffering.

    Amanda, we have faith that eventually, you will to do the right thing.

    Kite, suck it up, be a man, take responsibility for your actions (like Josh Hedlund).

    Set your family free.

    Time is running out!

  470. Mr. Nice
    May 18, 2009 at 11:08 am

    What crime? These people quietly growing pot in the middle of nowhere is not a crime.

    We have sleep rapist machine-gun slangers like Gunderson roaming around free and these people are supposed to turn themselves in?

    Screw all that mess.

  471. Unbelievable
    May 21, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    While I agree that growing pot should not be a crime.
    Kite and Amanda’s family and friends are the ones suffering the consequences.

    A REAL man would not let other’s take the fall for his mistakes.

    At the very least he should have cover the expense of the bail before they left town, so people who bailed them out of jail don’t lose their homes.

    Since he didn’t, he is a greedy, selfish, chicken-shit.

    The only way to redemption is to come home and set it right. A couple year is jail would be a small price to pay to regain respect and dignity.

  472. judge not
    June 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    “The only way to redemption is to come home and set it right. A couple year is jail would be a small price to pay to regain respect and dignity.”

    If you really believe that than stop talking smack, cuz its happening. Who are you to air everybody’s private family matters and pass judgment on other people? I know I’m not helping by replying to this thread, I just can’t stand the self righteous attitude of your posts.

  473. Just the Truth
    June 12, 2009 at 9:43 am

    This is not airing of dirty laundry or passing judgment.
    This is the TRUTH of what is happening.
    I am hoping that Kite and Amanda will read this and realize how many people are being hurt by their actions. It is a plea for help.

    WHO AM I to speak of this?
    I am one of the people caught in the collateral damage of Kite’s selfishness.
    Or do you believe it is better that I keep quiet and people lose their homes?
    Anything, so long as Kite’s ego is preserved?

    So, who are you?
    You say I am self-righteous?
    I don’t think so…

    Definition of self-righteous:
    Someone convinced of their righteousness especially in “contrast” with the actions and beliefs of others.

    EVERYONE thinks Kite’s a greedy, selfish, chicken-shit, bastard,
    WHO threw his family and friends under the oncoming bus, just to save his own ass.

    ALL will be forgiven, if they come home and set things right.

  474. Anonymous
    June 13, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    can we just legalize it already? for f*ck’s sake.

  475. was never a fool... just gave some a chance
    August 24, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    i know you read this blog… kite! you have destroyed many lives and dreams! mendo mate would have made a billion or two if you had of had faith and not risked everything to make a few million! you should have known not to trust josh. you did say that you had some issues with him a few years before the bust. but, whats done is done, running or not, you should have kicked down cash to all that you owed!!! what did you do with all the money that came your way anyway? i know that there was at least $500,000- $1,000,000 that had nothing to do with weed at all! there was a lot of legal $ sent towards mendo mate. what t fu@#%$@ did you do with that $? anyways… i hope you reach your dreams. you sad that you wanted to be a fat,rich, white guy sitting on your porch when you get older. well, that may be so but, i would hate to always look over my shoulder as i live my dream!

  476. ?ashame
    May 15, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    It seems that Mr. Hedlund continues to be a thorn in the side of many, even from prison.

  477. Firestorm
    July 13, 2010 at 6:16 am

    Mr. Hedlund has no morals nor values. He cares about what he can get from the people he meets and how they can help him get what he wants. He is the ultimate frickin asshole. Humboldt won’t let him back in though.

  478. Anonymous
    August 21, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    the bay area won’t let him back either

  479. don't come around here
    August 29, 2010 at 9:39 am

    He is NOT welcome in Santa Cruz either. The word is;
    the Mexican gang he ripped off wants to meet up in County,some chicks would like to pepper spray him in the face, some cops are not opposed to turning their cheeks while he gets his ass kicked, some old ladies want to cane him, and as usual a whole lotta people want to get paid. Like Humboldt SC has it’s share of problems but we draw the line at this level of scum. So Dude, when you get out this December, DON’T COME AROUND HERE (unless you go to County).

  480. ???RU
    September 4, 2010 at 9:08 am

    There are two kind of people in Josh Hedlund’s world;
    Those that he has burned and those that he hasn’t gotten around to burning. Which one are YOU?

  481. inquiring minds
    January 13, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Any news??

  482. Anonymous
    February 13, 2012 at 9:08 am

    We heard Hedlund just bought 3 or 4 houses on the same block in San Francisco. How does he continue to get away with all this? Is he on probation or what? I cant figure out who would be willing to deal with him at this point. Rumor is he is living larger than ever.

  483. Anonymous
    March 23, 2012 at 7:13 am

    Josh Hedlund is behind villica LLC and many other LLCs in humboldt set up to grow pot. Hedlund’s scam is to lure naive kids into running grows and “owning” the propeties they are on. He takes the profits from the grows in the form of obscene “land payments” and when the inevitable bust happens the kids go to prison. Hedlund laughs all the way to the bank, glowing with pride over the the success of his scheme, all the while looking for more victims\growers and land to rape. He needs to be stopped. He is a parasite that thrives on secrecy. but now his house of cards is falling down and his bad karma is catching up with him. He is currently facing federal charges for a huge indoor bust in Berkeley, forwhich about seven blue collar Bay Area kids have already gone to prison. The community needs to come together and out this sociopath: his vicims need to come forward, if you have information about his crimes, including armed robberies come forward. Let’s shine the light of truth on this coachroach.”

  484. humbled country
    October 9, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Guess who I ve seen recently at mission cliffs studio in the sf mission? Josh Hedlund. I wonder if he lives somewhere in this area.. Does anybody know something about it? I know a bunch of dudes from here who would like to talk to him in person.

  485. b8k8
    October 18, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Hey HC,
    I got a friend in the Mission who said he saw josh his neighborhood. I heard he’s trying to pass himself off as some up and coming tech guy, getting people to invest in his ideas but we all know he’s still a LOW DOWN AND DIRTY SWINDLER. If your friends are looking to “talk” to Josheepoo then they’re going to have to get in A VERY LONG LINE.

  486. b8k8
    October 18, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    o and why hasn’t the HH run any current stories on this SWINDLER?

  487. humbled county
    October 22, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    I finally tracked him down from the gym back home.
    He drives a big darkgreen Ford Expedition with 4RKY693 licence plate.
    He lives at 2787 Bryant St. right at the corner of 26th and Bryant St. He must be a subtenant there, since his name is not on the doorbell.
    His car parks in this area.
    Spread the word in our community so we make sure everybody has the chance to talk to him and get things straight. Im sure he is okay with it, since he has offered it so many times here in the blog. This is your chance to settle things with him and move on in life.

  488. Anonymous
    November 1, 2012 at 11:05 am

    hedlund just keeps moving to more victims. you’re backed up on the wall josh, you’re tangled in your own web. more busts more missing money more more lawsuits more scams. i wonder who will get you first? hum co? fish n game? the feds? the recent dudes you ripped off? or maybe one of the many you narc’d on to shave a few years off your sentence- kite amanda heather just to name a very few. or just maybe someone else? looks like you pissed off someone in your gym -i feel their pain- tired of this downward dog

  489. Anonymous
    November 1, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Anonymous :
    of course he cooperated, iwas just fooling with him. hey joshee poo your transcripts are not sealed but your cooperation agreement is, they always are you fool!!!!!!! who do you think that you are fooling.
    880,000 lopped off? I don’t think so with all the funds seized prior to plea agreement plus the $411,000 at sentencing it is well over 1 million dollars. Are you trying to act like you had a minor victory or what? admit to everything that has been said about you.

  490. Anonymous
    January 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Looks like fancy pants jh is petioned to go back to prison feb 14. Check Pacer

  491. Anonymous
    January 31, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    I just heard he is in beauty school! No joke. This is the new leaf he is turning over. If anyone knows where he is working now make me an appointment for a shave and a manicure.

  492. March 19, 2013 at 6:40 am

    Pretty great post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wished to say that I have really enjoyed browsing your blog posts. In any case I’ll be subscribing for your feed and I’m hoping you write again very soon!

  493. Anonymous
    April 11, 2013 at 3:00 am

    Ha! I know just the cowardly story Beowulf tells in this post, he’s so right, josh deserves a “good ole fashin ass whooping”. Maybe just maybe that will happen today.

    Beowulf on March 7, 2009 at 7:40 pm
    Josh, it is sad that you have screwed over so many people that you have no idea who I am; however, your guesses continue to amuse me. As far as reading the court transcripts, talking to the prosecutors, and etc. to prove your non-cooperation, I think the documents I have provided prove conclusively that if the authorities are motivated to keep your cooperation hidden then they are quite capable of doing so. The fact is you were arrested while out on bail from a federal case (it is rumored you were en route from a meeting with Kite from whom you had picked up a large amount of cash.) Now normally an offender such as you would have been placed in custody for the remainder of your trail. But lo and behold Josh was miraculously released. Then Kite got busted. Then Joshee-poo finally got sentenced and surprise, surprise it was a very, very light sentence indeed. Coincidentally, why did Josh go through so many attorneys? Was it because some attorneys don’t work with snitches? Or maybe Josh was just too much of a little punk for some of them to take despite the generous fees they were receiving from him?

    So hum noob, I don’t like Josh because he is a duplicitous, conniving, little jerk, who leaves financial, environmental, and human destruction in his wake, wherever he goes. He has absolutely no compunction about putting others in harms way, if by doing so he can make a buck. If you think josh has “a lot of courage” you are mistaken. In fact it is his lack of courage and innate insecurity that drives him to harm others. In fact I was told a story about how once a man Josh was in the process of defrauding confronted Josh. Now at the time Josh didn’t have a gun or any paid back-up, so the guy just told Josh that if he was not going to deal honestly that he might as well get a man to man ole fashin ass whoop-in. Josh was so scared that he literally ran away on the verge of tears, practically peeing himself, proclaiming that he didn’t want any trouble. Apparently Josh was so mortified at his loss of face, that he had been shown to be a little coward, that he went on a malicious spree of thievery thereafter.

    N/A: as far as moving on, I will do so when Josh shows some contrition and attempts to right the wrongs he has done. Otherwise I’m on that shit, warning others and hoping i can prevent any further victimization. If you don’t like it piss-off.

  494. Anonymous
    April 19, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Hey Humboldt County just want to let you know: JH no longer lives at the Bryant ST address. Turns out he is now suing the 62 year old woman he was renting from. Cut her a break cause she is clearly just another victim in the Hedlund/Drury “friends” list! You know what they say; with friends like these…no need do need for enemies!!!!

  495. Martian Madness
    May 13, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Josh Hedlund is 90% likely to head back to Federal Prison in Minnesota for starting at 2PM on May 30, 2013 at his Probation Revocation hearing in Oakland criminal court case # 06-00346-002 with charges per document #352.

    At this hearing Josh Hedlund faces six (6) probation violations where the federal Oalkand DOJ prosecutor who sent him to the slammer in the first place [Keslie Stewart] has brought against him. The 6 violations are defined in 9 pages of detail in PACER document 352. Any Humboldt Hedlundites who are interested in learning more — should find an attorney or lay person with a PACER account where all filings in the Federal court system can be downloaded for 10 cents a page. Or any Hedlundite or news media organization from any county or state can just sign up by providing a credit card and waiting a day. This gives you front line access to the Hedlund ongoing saga which plays out in multiple bankruptcies — including Schmook, Vilica and Hedlund’s personal bankruptcy — where all his assets are being consolidated and liquidated to pay his creditors and victims as much as Hedlund wants this case dismissed so he won’t have to pay his debts and he can continue to screw people.

    The 6 Probation Revocation charges in the criminal case include 1) Not notifying his PO of being arrested or having contact with police 2) failing to report for drug testing 3) not paying child support 4) not reporting to his PO of contact with law enforcement 5) not providing his PO with requested information re his financial dealings especially the order to divest himself or his “real estate” businessses and 6) repeatedely not advising his PO of change of residence. Hedlund of course continues his real estate business and promotes himself as an expert at setting up LLC’s or Trusts to protect onself against federal or state charges for crimes.

    In addition the third ammended Form 12 also notes that Josh Hedlund “lost’ a 357 that was licensed to him and how he was Trustee of a Trust that licensed to Dolly Varden Garden’s LLC to a group of 12 members who were caught growing large amounts of medical marijuanc [with 215 licenses] when Fish and Game busted them recently for numerous environmental violations. FnG has since turned this over to the Humboldt DA for prosecution. Josh Hedlund will of course blame the Dolly Varden Gardenn LLC members for the environmental violations and fines as he did with Paradise Palms nursery in the Vilica bankruptcy. His strategy is to keep one step removed from the crime but this may change as it is likely he will be back in Federal prison soon.

    Hedlund how has a geo-tracking ankel bracelet with auto notification of his location if he moves outside his authorized “box” as he awaits trial prior to heading back to the slammer. He is confined to his rented home in San Franciso from 9PM to 6AM every day until his Probation Revoaction hearing. Hedlund previously was renting from a family friend in San Francisco who he threatened according to the PO-filed Form 12 and who the criminal judge ordered Hedlund to have “no contact with.” Hedlund’s new girfriend – Raina Cordini – was authorized by the Federal Judge to pick up Hedlunds belongings after he threatened this long term friend of Hedlund’s mother Ellen Drury. This is the Hedlund’s prior landlord that Anonomyous told us about in April.

    Not to be deterred Josh Hedlund has already made one attempt to modify the terms of his probation to stay within his “geo-tracking box.” This was denied on 5-10-13 by his federal crimimal court Judge.

    As another footnote Vilica lost a Motion to the McLean Trust [the Eel River sawmill folks] to lift the stay that McLean brought against Hedlund in Trinity Superior Court Case #09CV078. Litigation should resume against Hedlund and his Brother Ben Hedlund for fraud, quite title and reformation – due to Vilica’s fraudulent attempt to move property bought with H&H Capital funds to Vilica LLC and then back to H&H while fraudulently listing the property as Vilica assets in bankruptcy schedules which – of course – they were not .The bankruptcy court is giving the Hedlund boys 30 days to find an attorney to represent them in this state court case.

    Perhaps Josh Hedlund’s multi-LLC shell game isn’t such a smart way for pot cultivators to protect themselves and that he’s not the financial expert he holds himself out to be.

    Pleasant dreams in Minnesota Josh. I hope you like AdSeg better this time around.

  496. Anonymous
    May 15, 2013 at 6:41 am

    And so the story goes…..

    A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back.  The frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?”  The scorpion says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”

    The frog is satisfied, and they set out.  But in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog.  The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”

    Replies the scorpion: “It’s my nature…”

  497. Anonymous
    May 15, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Is is true he is fighting his ex in court over failure to pay child support? I heard he hasn’t paid a single dime. That is what really gets to me. Be an asshole. Be a rat. Be whatever you want, but be responsible when it comes to your kids.

  498. Anonymous
    May 15, 2013 at 10:30 am

    “Speaking after the sentencing, U.S. Attorney Joseph Russoniello said he hoped the enormous cost of Hedlund’s defense – plus the prison time – would serve as a deterrent to others. But Russoniello said it wouldn’t be enough to deter Hedlund, who the government says continued doing business with known pot growers well after his indictment.
    ‘I expect we’ll see him again, and we’ll deal with him again,’ Russoniello said.”

  499. Anonymous
    May 15, 2013 at 11:42 am

    “Perhaps Josh Hedlund’s multi-LLC shell game isn’t such a smart way for pot cultivators to protect themselves and that he’s not the financial expert he holds himself out to be.”

    HA! Financial “expert”!? I heard he learned his trade from that skeezbag in Santa Cruz Arnoldo!

  500. Anonymous
    May 15, 2013 at 11:49 am

    On Form 12 Charge Three PO Dan Zurita swear under oath that Hedlund has “violated standard condition number four to support his dependants and meet other family responsibilities” and made no child support payments in violation of a 8/15/12 SF Superior Court Order that “ordered the offender to pay base support and arrears for child support.”

    This would suggest that Anonymous is right that he “hasn’t paid a single dime,”

    The Judge hearing his Probation Revocation hearing is a 47 yr old Latina Obama appointee named Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rodgers. But don’t think Hedlund is heading back to the slammer any time soon because he got the most progressive [rehabilitative] Judge in the country. This woman released a dangerous criminal who got caught in a sting trying to sell a grenade launcher to an ATF agent and assaulted an ATF agent. Otis Mobley Jr was released on bail with an ankel bracelet and a special condition set by Judge Gonzalez – A Diane Feinstein nominee – to read books and write “book reports” as bizarre as that was.

    The guy was Otis Mobley Jr and with two accomplises pointed a gun at the arresting ATF agent in a Chevy’s parking lot and backup ATF agents shot these bastards and Mobley resisted arrest and got away but was later captured. Mobly has a 4 year old son just like Hedlund. However, The Judge’s motive to try and help an illiterate black man [with a young child] learn to read and write is a little different than trying different any motive Judge Gonzalez may have to help Hedlund. She hopefully sees that Hedlund would be best helped by spending more time in prison while his illegally obtained assets are liquidated in bankruptcy and his creditors [victims] paid.

  501. Anonymous
    May 15, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Karma might be taking a while to catch up to Joshie-poo, but his day will come. No one gets to go through life screwing over everyone in their path without it eventually catching up to them. Whether it’s the justice system, or someone he’s wronged setting things right- YOUR TIME IS GONNA COME YOU POS

  502. Anonymous
    June 6, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Is he still dodging child support? I heard he was putting all his assets in his new girlfriend’s name. She must be a prize.

  503. Anonymous
    March 22, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    Well, well, well, looks like evil never takes a nap? You’ve been quite busy lately selling poor innocent people imaginary bridges. Too bad most of them will do their research on you a little too late.
    In the end you lose. Ten steps forward twenty back. Story of your life.

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