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Nasty cops prompt ER crack down

Yesterday’s Eureka Reporter carried an announcement that the paper’s website would no longer allow anonymous comments. Readers must now register their name and phone number to post feedback at eurekareporter.com.

The decision-makers seem to blame the same rancorous Eureka police officers behind the anti-EPD Chief Garr Nielsen blog. The ER says nasty comments on the site “came in a flood in the wake of the City Council’s session in which Eureka Police Department employees were given the floor to criticize the chief.”

Apparently the ER doesn’t have the cash to hire someone to moderate comments, which doesn’t look like a huge job based on the low amount of online feedback.

Of course, worker bees at the ER can still leave nasty anonymous comments on local blogs, but that’s been less of a problem since a certain editor quit his job.

  1. June 5, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Those running the Eureka Reporter have thin skins. They disabled comments because they couldn’t handle the comments criticizing the newspaper.

  2. Anonymous
    June 5, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Or more likely, the cop-haters took it as an extra opportunity to spew their hate against the disgruntled cops.

  3. June 5, 2008 at 9:28 am

    actually, the cops were the ones spewing the hate in this case….

  4. Jane Doe
    June 5, 2008 at 9:29 am

    From what I read, it was the anti-“Garfish” cops who were doing all the disgusting libeling of their boss and his “pet.” It was shocking.

  5. shocking
    June 5, 2008 at 11:00 am

    “It was shocking.”

    It shocked me too.
    I didn’t know cops could read.

    The sheriff’s deputy at Henderson Center Pharmacy parking lot yesterday sure couldn’t. He parked in direct violation of city statutes to go shopping at the uniform shop – parking illegally in the pharmacy’s private lot, even though there were ample spaces on the street.

    Typical law-breaking fake he is. What a disgrace to the uniform.

  6. Anonymous
    June 5, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Now if Heraldo et.al will just follow suit we can clean up all the visciousness on the blog.

  7. Not A Native
    June 5, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Open disclosure is always better than festering malcontentment.

    I say, let the Eureka cops blow off some steam on a blog, much better than their doing it on the city streets. It also allows the public to stay informed if their thought processes, refute outrageous rumors, and become aware of valid gripes. I don’t assume the other cops are so irrational and short fused that an airing of this anger would incite them similarly.

    An alternative view would be that allowing them to vent just encourages them they are justified to act with more swagger on the beat. But that reasoning doesn’t agree with my experiences of human nature, and a lot of research too. Cops have a challenging job and shouldn’t be required to bottle up their emotions.

  8. noel
    June 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    “Cops have a challenging job and shouldn’t be required to bottle up their emotions.”

    If people are emotionally unstable and cannot control themselves they should not be police. Police have an inordinate amount of discretionary power and are therefore subject to a rigid system of control. People who can live in this system and who protect us from all sorts of danger rightfully deserve the enhanced appreciation that police are generally given. People who cannot should get other jobs.

    “Discretion is the better part of valor”

  9. June 5, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Now if Heraldo et.al will just follow suit we can clean up all the visciousness on the blog.

    Yes, Heraldo is the chosen one, to lead us Bloggers to clean it up! PUHLEEZ!

    (Cue the We need a hero music, right now)

    This is one of the better moderated sites here.

    -boy

  10. Not A Native
    June 5, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    noel,

    Simply having emotions doesn’t mean someone is emotionally unstable. I’m suggesting that trying to make cops deny their emotions will result in unpleasant outbursts, just like it does for other people. For cops, those outbusts cause more serious consequences for society.

    Certainly cops should be selected and trained to be aware of and suppress their emotional responses in the course of their duties. Those who can’t do that are unqualified, IMHO. But to deny cops access to their emotional responses at the appropriate time is to invite the creation of a tight knit clandestine insular subculture that believes is antagonistic to the mainstream. I think a blog is one appropriate way to express emotions.

    Separating cops from their feelings is the first step to having a police force that can’t identify with and is unsympathetic to the people they are protecting and serving.

  11. Anonymous
    June 5, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    I think the ER’s decision to stop permitting comments is related to the departure of their long-time (i.e. only) editor.

    I don’t think there is any connection to the police department or its employees.

  12. J.P.
    June 5, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    I had to laugh out loud at the idea that we might be risking creating:

    “…a tight knit clandestine insular subculture that believes is antagonistic to the mainstream.”

    and

    “…a police force that can’t identify with and is unsympathetic to the people they are protecting and serving.”

    “Creating” that? But you just described the atmosphere of the Eureka Police Department for the past several decades!

    Apparently the new, outsider chief of police is working to change that atmosphere, hence the backlash against him.

    At any rate, while officers on duty should generally keep their political views to themselves, off-duty cops should have the same first amendment rights as the rest of us – no more and no less.

    I really don’t think their spewing a bunch of nonsense online is really going to be harmful, and it might actually be helpful to both them and to the public, in several of the ways outlined above.

  13. June 5, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    If the comments threads on the ER site have the charm and wit of the comment threads on the TS site, who’s going to miss them?

  14. Jane Doe
    June 5, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Do you think the ER is lying about their reason 7:07? They did state that it was the malicious and nearly defamatory comments about Nielsen that led to the change.

  15. Anonymous
    June 5, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    Hi, Jane. I am 7:07. I don’t care as much about why the ER has decided to change its policy as I do that it has decided to eliminate the ability of readers to post anonymous comments.

    I have been posting anoymously, respectfully, intelligently, and politely, and I reject the idea that only named commenters are capable of acting like decent human beings online.

    I just read the ER’s editorial. They are free to do what they will.

    They condemn all anonymous posters based on the actions of a few. There is a name for that. It is called “prejudice.”

    I will not be wasting my time on The Eureka Reporter while this new policy is in effect.

  16. June 5, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    “They condemn all anonymous posters based on the actions of a few.”

    Oh, what a savage injustice!

  17. Anonymous
    June 5, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Yes, CPR. That attitude of arrogance, with which you are only too familiar, causes thoughtful anonymous commenters to go elsewhere. As you should know only too well.

  18. Anonymous
    June 5, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Pardon me, CPR, for not remarking on your most prominent feature, your sarcasm. It truly is remarkable, for its intensity no less than for its ubiquitousness.

  19. Anonymous
    June 5, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    actually, the cops were the ones spewing the hate in this case….

    You apparently didn’t read the ER page that spawned it all. It was blind cop-hate.

  20. June 6, 2008 at 7:25 am

    “…your most prominent feature, your sarcasm.”

    Sarcasm is but a peccadillo compared with the nasty, abusive insults which “Anonymous” contributes to so many local threads.

    If the ER wants Anonymous commenters to take a small token of responsibility for their feedback, then so be it.

  21. June 6, 2008 at 8:02 am

    Sarcasm is but a peccadillo

    Too early in the morning to laugh that hard Ranger.

    Let’s see if the Reporter can shut out the infamous “Anonymous” from their comment threads.

    -boy

  22. anon
    June 6, 2008 at 10:34 am

    I think constructive criticism of the police and the chief is fine, but the fascination with personal issues seems irresponsible. What matters is how well the police are doing their job, not whom the chief may associate with. So go ahead and scrutinize EPD and the chief but leave his private life out of it. It really is not the public’s business, and is hurtful to innocent people.

  23. tad
    June 6, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Peace be with you

    What about people with out phones? They can’t write letters to the editors and now can even pop in the library and post a comment. I think you should have to run a credit check, and submit a blood sample to check your bluebloodness (inbredness), so everyone’s clear on who’s running what.

    love eternal
    tad

  24. Anonymous
    June 6, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Love eternal, tad. When you are right, you are so very right.

    If the “powers-that-be” can’t identify the free-thinkers personally, how can they take their revenge upon them?

  25. Anonymous
    June 6, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    Carson Park Ranger is a “nom-de-plume.” It is certainly not a “joie-de-vivre.” And it IS certainly just another “Anonymous” – a hypocritical one, trying to pretend it is not anonymous when it most certainly is.

    Listen, CPR, you keep acting as if “Anonymous” was one person, one who constantly insults others and adds nothing of merit to the discussion. Have you ever acknowledged that some people who write using the “Anonymous” non-moniker are actually good upright human beings?

  26. Not A Native
    June 6, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    I’d say a consistent and unique “pen name” IS an identity, whether you can associate it with a particular piece of flesh or not. The credibility of a flesh and blood body has a lot to do with consistency and context. Someone using a generic name or who intentionally switches names has no identity and can’t have any credibility.

    Of course the net permits impersonation. Its interesting to see that people with a “pen name” are greatly offended when they’re impersonated, and other “pen names” are also outraged. Regular blogger agree impersonation is a type of theft and feel justified to “track down” the offender. If that doesn’t constitute identity, what does?

  27. tad
    June 6, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Peace be with you

    Did you mean “joie-de-vivre” (joy of living)? How do you know that to “Carson Park it’s not?

    love eternal
    tad

  28. June 6, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    “…you keep acting as if “Anonymous” was one person…”

    I’ve been tracking Anonymous for quite some time now, and I’m quite convinced that he is one person. Maybe two.

  29. Anonymous
    June 6, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    And of course, Anonymous is a “he.”

  30. June 9, 2008 at 9:15 am

    The reporter isn’t even a real paper anyways. The idiots who read the reporter are the same idiots who watch Fox News. Every time I posted a comment, it was either removed, or my statement was attacked by a barrage of hateful, angry natzis.

    Those who are free to think for themselves may pick up the reporter to compare the spin the Arkley’s conjure up against the Times Standard. Can we truly believe everything we read, hear or see, in any media venue?

  31. Anonymous
    June 9, 2008 at 11:41 am

    My college roommate chose to become a journalism major. His idea was to take the easiest course of study and save most of his time for partying. However, he found a way to even further increase the time available for partying. He dropped out of college altogether. He became a logger.

    What does it all mean? Jeff Muskrat? Tell me!

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