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Calif. pot busts by county


The Sacramento Bee has an interactive map of marijuana arrests in California by county.  Behold the emerald triangle.

  1. lumpy
    May 10, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Maybe we should be called the peachy-maroon shaded triangle. That should take some heat off.

  2. May 10, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Wow! What’s the deal with Inyo County? I didn’t know buds were so popular in Death Valley:)

  3. Not A Native
    May 10, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    I’d say that drug enforcement in those more populated counties mostly involves charges for more serious crimes of violence associated with trafficking.

    The “Emerald Triangle” generates more per capita arrests for possession. But once the product is in urban areas, law enforcement prioritize arrests for the consequent robberies, shootings, assaults and killings. (And social service agencies deal with the many cases of dysfunctional families and individuals caused by drug dependence.)

    Not only does Humboldt export pot buds, it relocates the violence and social dislocation that pot creates further down the feeding chain.

  4. Anonymous
    May 10, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Oh, I always wondered what caused those drive-by shootings down in SoCal. Now I know, it’s pot. Thanks for that wisdom, NAN, how could we make sense of it all without you.

  5. Anonymous
    May 10, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Thats a good point, humboldt is def the root of all evil in our society. Ha. NAN move out of the area if you don’t like the situation, why cruise the blogs and complain? Does that really make you happy?

  6. Anonymous
    May 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Marijuana is a cancer that eats at the bowels of Humboldt County.

  7. RedHummer
    May 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    I’m tired of idiots telling everyone to move out of the area for whatever reason. We all live here because we choose to and get to express ourselves on this forum so fucking get used to it.

  8. not a nautive
    May 10, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Not a native is just an angry guy, he just likes bitching.

  9. Mr CP
    May 11, 2009 at 12:31 am

    NAN makes a good point. Pot growing ALWAYS involves guns and violence. Many of our local growers are murderers, with dead bodies already buried on their land. They brag about this to each other all the time.

    Working with like minded people in the community, I have turned in many growers. The growers have no friends and do nothing for any of the community organizations we all support. Push on them and they fold like a house of cards. Try it, you will be surprised as how satisfying it is to assert your rights.

    Do not accept the growers propaganda that the war on drugs has failed. This is designed to make you give up. They can be stopped cold with one phone call to the police. If you see something, say something.

  10. Mr. Nice
    May 11, 2009 at 9:28 am

    Do not accept the growers propaganda that the war on drugs has failed. This is designed to make you give up. They can be stopped cold with one phone call to the police. If you see something, say something.

    The people who say the war on drugs has failed are the people who defend the citizens’ right to individual choice and people who are tired of neighborhood gun battles over what location some gangbanging teenager was pitching crank. I wouldn’t call making yourself into a drug warrior watchdog for the man to be asserting your rights, I would call it making yourself into a bigger snitch than Kevin Hoover.

    The war on drugs has not failed the growers. Without the war on drugs, the growers couldn’t make ducs to buy chrome wheels. Even if the war on drugs nets a million arrests for petty pot crimes, it puts no strain on the pot market. Police enforcement is doing nothing but ensuring that elbows from the harvest translate into elbows on the Cadillac.

  11. businessman
    May 11, 2009 at 10:24 am

    Mr. Nice:

    In your book a citizen who obeys laws and report criminals is a “snitch.” Kevin Hoover has guts. He’s doing a great job with his paper.

    The working people and taxpayers have had it with pot growers. We’re working with our civic organizations and church groups to assert our rights to a safe community. We want our hills back.

    I’ve personally watched the arrogant growers being dragged out of the hills–with their pot piled high in police trucks. More to come. LOTS more.

  12. Mr. Nice
    May 11, 2009 at 11:19 am

    Of course there will be lots more because for every pot grower that gets busted, some other pot grower takes their place.

    Look, when a violent criminal or a thief is caught by the police, incidence of crime drops because “they got their guy.” Nobody signs up to be raped or robbed, so there is not a void in any market when these people get busted. When a pot dealer gets busted, the police didn’t get their guy, they didn’t even come close. This is because there are still legions of people willing to sign up to be sold pot regardless of if one less person in the hills is growing pot.

    Don’t kid yourself with the thought that there is a thing that police can do about drugs. The propaganda line that drugs are a “scourge” affecting our “community values” is hogwash and an increasing number of people see that. Change starts locally and some of us are not willing to sit around waiting for the federal government to come to their senses before putting a dent in bylaws relating to victimless crime. Some of us would rather challenge the assumptions made about local and state enforcement than write busybody letters to property owners about their tenants.

  13. arcatawitch
    May 11, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Mr. CP says “Pot growing ALWAYS involves guns and violence.” I say that is not true. Period. Not true. Sir, please do not continue to spread those vicious lies.

    Blessed be.

  14. HumRed
    May 11, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Businessman, the pot growers are working people and in most cases taxpayers. For every big time multi acre plot there are 10 four light grows in spare rooms and garages. Most of them are supplementing other incomes to keep there houses, cars, kids in school etc. That money goes directly into the economy without having to spend more money to have the government send it back with restrictions. I would rather have it here in the community.More people get killed in traffic accidents than pot growing. Just gets sensationalized in the news cause it sells. No I don’t grow and have not smoked pot since 1969. I am not condoning all that goes on with the business, just stating some basic facts.

  15. Skippy
    May 11, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    As a longtime resident of Humboldt County, it has been my experience that pot growing only very RARELY involves guns and/or violence. If it usually did, or always did, we’d certainly have among the highest rates of violent crime in the state — but we don’t, not by a long shot.

    But of course in our media culture, “if it bleeds it leads,” so the clueless hyperventilators hear about the rare exceptions and foolishly believe that they represent the norm.

    One thing that is an undeniable fact: the rare incidents of pot-growing-related violence that DO occur are clearly not *caused* by Marijuana — they are *caused* by the Prohibition of Marijuana, which creates the black market, supports the existence of shady dealers and rip-off artists, fosters the distrust of law enforcement, etc.

    Legalize it today, and the black market will melt away tomorrow.

    Interestingly, the two main interest groups that oppose this are the big commercial growers, who benefit greatly from the continuous price support that Prohibition provides, and the Prison and Law Enforcement industries who have grown fat with the endless dollars we’ve wasted on the pointless and counter-productive “War” on a rather innocuous plant. (Perhaps they should form a common front: Cops & Creeps United for Prohibition Profits!)

    The good news is that public opinion in this country is steadily and swiftly moving in favor of the legalization of marijuana. According to a number of recent polls (see fivethirtyeight.com and do a search on Legalization), support for legalization is approaching or exceeding 50% in the U.S. as a whole, and is already well beyond that in California.

    Politically astute observers like Nate Silver (of fivethirtyeight.com) believe that support will have to reach about 60% before a majority of federal lawmakers will back legalization. Judging by current trends, that’s about 8-10 years away. But it could happen much sooner in California.

    Which will come not a moment too soon – imagine how we could better spend the money we’re currently flushing down the Drug War toilet…Better primary and secondary schools? More programs to give opportunities to at-risk youth? Cheaper college tuition? Better job training? More effective and accesible mental health services? More drug treatment programs to help those with real drug problems (like Meth, Coke, Heroin, Alcohol and Nicotine/tobacco)? Expanding access to health care for children and the working poor? Support for alternative energy development? Decent housing, home care, and nursing homes for low-income elderly folks?

    I could go on, but you get the idea…does anyone really want to make the argument that jailing pot users, tying up our courts with these cases, and using limited law enforcement resources to fly around in helicopters targeting a bunch of hippy pot growers with a few dozen plants each is somehow a better use of our tax dollars than any of the options I listed above? Really…anyone?

  16. Skippy
  17. Skippy
    May 11, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Apparently, a South Carolina(?) Congressman got pulled over at a border checkpoint between California and Arizona earlier this year. He was mentioned as having ALSO been caught with Marijuana in his vehicle by police sniffing dogs.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  19. Skippy
    May 11, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    I’m betting he’ll never see the inside of a prison cell…unlike those who are poorer, or have darker skin or longer hair.

    Gotta link to that story?

    May 11, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Often, for social advancements to maturate, older people must pass on. Older people are representations of previous societal dynasties. At times, the dynasty was insatiably laced with brainwashing propaganda. Today, older folks I speak with regularly are seeing the light within the conversations regarding the past and present. Sad but true.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  21. businessman
    May 12, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Yeah, right. Pot growers pay taxes–and pigs can fly.

    As for the violence, the murder rate in our hills is out of sight. Mostly, the growers get away with it and bury the bodies on their land. Then they get drunk/high and brag about it to each other. I’ve seen and heard all this myself.

    Townspeople are effectively locked into their towns; our hills are closed. Now they are setting up in town. The murder rate will follow them here.

    May 12, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Sales Taxes tend to hit everyone. Why earn money if you are not going to spend it?

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  23. Joe
    May 12, 2009 at 11:08 am

    If people really wanted to eliminate pot growers in Humboldt, legalize it.

    A lot of growers are already trying to band together so they can take on established companies that will be jumping on marijuana legalization. They are scared shitless because of marijuana legalization, they might have to enter a “legitimate” job if it happens. If marijuana became legalized growers would have to follow strict regulations (no dogs near grow rooms, no harmful pesticides, forms and papers for all employees, the list goes on…) and most will have to quit growing for profit.

    Get rid of all the Al Capone’s in this county by simply legalizing marijuana so that legitimate business can bring down the prices and put growers out of business. Violence is to be expected in a multi-billion dollar industry that has to follow no rules!

    Noone is going to risk their lives over a few pounds of marijuana if it only costs a few hundred dollars after legalization. It’s a plant that is worth $40 for 1/8 of an ounce. Growing marijuana during prohibition is pretty much the same if you could grow gold. You can get ounces of any other plant for just a few dollars. An ounce of gold is valued near the value of an ounce of bud…something is wrong here.

    And to say that growers don’t pay taxes that is ridiculous. Looking for more tax money from the growers? Then legalize it!

  24. Spliffedelia
    May 12, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    legalize it yeah, yeah, and Heraldo will advertise it Mon.

  25. Not A Native
    May 12, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Pot growers are the people most against legalization. But they’re mostly keeping a low profile, hoping it just won’t happen.

    But every so often you’ll see a blog posting cautioning people to “be cool” and not agitate strongly for legalization because all of Humboldt will be economically devastated if pot is legalized. Of course that’s nonsense, most of the economic impacts of legalization would affect only the growers.

    Pot growers want the same things that other producers of contraband want. Their product should stay illegal and the local authorities should look the other way and not enforce the law.

    In their methods and tactics to retain economic advantages, Poppy growers in Afghanistan, meth producers around the US, coca growers in Columbia, and pot growers in HumCo have a lot in common.

  26. businessman
    May 13, 2009 at 9:11 am

    Many of the pot growers have already set up a side line: producing Meth and moving heroin into the county. You’re not going to turn these parasites into law abiding citizens by changing the pot laws.

    The county is on its knees financially. Meanwhile, your pot lords are making BILLIONS and tying up our police resources. Occasionally they will toss us a few crumbs like the Mateel Center (but that too became a financial drain and a scandal because these people cannot work together and cannot be trusted with money). Now with the larger economy tanking I’m wondering how much longer we can carry these parasites?

  27. Mr. Nice
    May 13, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Parasites that inject some $500,000,000 into the local economy every year… how do we go about attracting more parasites?

    Heroin and methamphetamine should be legal too, but that is a different issue (I guess).

    The county is not “on its knees financially.” That is pure sensationalism and doesn’t make your point any stronger. We are doing no worse than any other place in California and if anything we are doing better than other rural counties as we don’t have all of workforce tied up in a single failing industry.

    Many citizens have been getting tired of the mad and cranky “damned dopers” complainers for years. Your people’s time is up. You guys don’t have valid points and your arguments are pure emotion. We realize that you are mad, don’t like hippies making money, and need someone to vent your frustration on since it is not socially acceptable to (openly) blame blacks, Chinese, or Mexicans these days.

    Go ahead and be angry, but don’t expect us to take your solution of cracking down harder seriously. The government has tried to crack down and it has only made the problem worse. We need to do something different as this issue cannot be arrested out of existence.

  28. businessman
    May 13, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Where is that “500,000,000” being spent-aside from Thai whorehouses, LA & Oakland drug dealers and Las Vegas casinos?

    Meanwhile, some specifics: our hospitals are going broke, our roads are a mess and getting worse, our schools are overcrowded and understaffed and our police, fire departments are close to collapse.

    The growers did this to us. We need to take back our county. Yes, the cops are overwhelmed. Cleaning them out will require a military intervention as in Columbia and other drug-dominated societies. We’ve already had federal police up here. That’s the beginning of the end for big pot.

  29. businessman
    May 13, 2009 at 10:20 am

    “Many citizens” have had it with apologists for Big Dope. You don’t have a leg to stand on and you know it. As for your clumsy attempts to identify Dope Growers with oppressed minorities…nice try.

  30. Mr. Nice
    May 13, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Since military intervention has had such a positive effect in Columbia, you favor it here? It is not enough to have most of our young people in jail for victimless crime, we need paramilitary and guerrilla warfare?

    The growers did not bankrupt the government. What do you have to back up that claim?

  31. Mr. Nice
    May 13, 2009 at 10:42 am

    You can capitalize whatever you want, I am not an apologist. I would like to see an end to “small dope” and put this business into the hands of everyday entrepreneurs. I mean acres upon acres of weed on ag land, not in national parks or rigged up in bathrooms across the street from schools.

  32. HumRed
    May 13, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Businessman you are not. Your understanding of economics sucks. You are so off you could not make money growing pot. How about trucks, food, house payments, hardware, garden supplies, haircuts, pizzas, shoes, gas, food out, doctors visits, massages, beer, wine, horses, tractors, home improvement, hammers, screwdrivers and on and on and on. Yea like you could make a dollars on your own. The dope growers did this to us, no the folks you voted into office did this to you. You my friend need to go see someone about a Rx cause you are a whack job.

  33. businessman
    May 14, 2009 at 9:48 am

    You left out ammunition and rat poison.

  34. Skippy
    May 14, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    “I’ve seen and heard all of this myself”

    So you reported it, right? Because otherwise you’re an “accesory after the fact” to murder and prosecutable for that.

    So I assume you reported it, the bodies were dug up and charges filed against your drinking buddies?

    By the way, property taxes and sales taxes hit everyone. Our property values and property tax revenues on our rural lands are supported in large part by ganja-growing. Without it the county would be (even more) bankrupt. Also, if the growers want to be able to use their money to, for example, buy land, they need to show it as income on their tax returns. Fortunately you can just enter it as farm income, as many do. Full legalization would make that even easier and more uniform – anyone avoiding paying income taxes on their income (as all too many regular “businessmen” do already) would be subject to IRS audit, fines, imprisonment, etc. So you make a fine argument for legalization, whether you realize it or not!

  35. Skippy
    May 14, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Yes, pot must be the cause of all our economic and social problems, since clearly the rest of the country, where pot growing is pretty rare, is doing SO great economically (not!)

  36. businessman
    May 14, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    OK, Skippy, despite our soaring unemployment rate, we’ll be delighted to coddle the bullet proof vest thugs who shoot up our communities and dump rat poison into our creeks. After all, they also buy garden supplies.

  37. Skippy
    May 15, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Congratulations on defeating that ferocious Straw Man you created, the one who supports bulletproof vest thugs and rat poison dumpers.

    Feel free to continue to ignore the plain fact that it is Prohibition that leads to these problems. You haven’t let facts or logic interfere with your opinionating so far, so why start now, right?

  38. humboldtmother
    July 5, 2009 at 11:42 am

    businessman…i feel sad for you. i hope you don’t carry to much weight knowing where bodies are and writing on the internet is all you have done about it. but you are stupid, quite frankly, for lumping all pot growers into your rat poisoning blahblahblah category. do you not take prescription drugs? smoke ciggs? coffee? red bull? and even if you don’t you are focusing your anger on a group of people that range from seniors, your neighbors that you like, single mothers to stay off welfare and raise their children, students that are simply using it as a job till they graduate and get the fuck out of here to find a job that will pay, to the thugs and greedy fucks you are talking about… but they are typically the first to fuck themselves… most pot growers probably pay taxes these days… money into the economy is unquestionable, yes the feds are here, they have been and will continue to be, probably for those greedy fucks that pollute and ruin roads etc… but there is a large population of people who are good people, who are sustaining their families and their communities by gardening… Id have to say id rather garden, be able to take my kids to school and pick them up, do their homework and cook them dinner… As a single mother, i happen to know that my job forces me to be at work before the kids can even be at school, then they spend two plus hours in daycare situation i pay for, only to miss most of our family time together… sports and extra curricular activites out of the question due to lack of money and time to take them…. so it is a choice some people make… for better or worse. who are you to pass judgement? maybe you should talk to your drunk high friends who kill people and start a soil business or something…. quit whining… i hope there are growers that live all over your street.. i hope they are dreadys that waste their money and you continue to fume about it….but back to the whole murder thing…. how can you live with yourself? no wonder you seem to have some issues…. this is the second time ive ever read or blogged on this site but your stupidity enticed a response.. again my sympathies….to your friends as well… and those you know of in the ground….

  39. concerned
    October 19, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    I find it absoloutely hilarious that every person I saw tonight on pot city USA were totally contradicting themselves. For instance, the fat gray haired man said,”i’m forced to carry a gun for the first time in 40 years, and i’m also going to put my house up for rent because of pot growers in the area.” His very next statement was that he was going to say that his home was in a part of town which was ok with growing pot, and it was a selling point for him to get more money. Another man couldn’t help, but throw a pit bull in the equation. These are jackass people who don’t know what it’s like to medically need the stuff. KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT AND MOVE… PEICES OF GABAGE!!!!!!! STOP WHINING

  40. jon
    November 1, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    there is no money in selling weed . violence hardly ever stems from it . legalize it and dealers wont be needed . weed is harmless people who smoke it are peaceful well most are you must live in the gheto for guns to be envolved i grow and i have never evan held a gun .

  41. jon
    November 1, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    businessman your an idiot skippy and henchman you guys are awsome

  42. jon
    November 1, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    theres no money in pot most growers grow for themselves

  43. jon
    November 1, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    pot growers are regular taxpaying folks like everyone else that just hapen to grow pot . they arent rich . they arent evil like the dea wants you to think. most growers dont even sell. some of you need to stop listening to bs propaganda . do you even know why weed was outlawed in the first place.

  44. jon
    November 1, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    the war on drugs costs about 4 billion dollars a year. end it.

  45. Wolfking
    December 15, 2009 at 1:10 am

    Mr. CP and Businessman need to take a class in fallacies of the slippery slope nature. That ill logic was what got marijuana criminalized in the first place… false association with; ethnic races, mental disease, political offiliation..and now gang /gun violence….heroine/meth?..hmmm I wonder whats next.. all growers are russian maybe? (Nothing against Russia) Sure some growing involves russians, some grows are armed, linked to meth…(low% of grows in humboldt)… but to say all are growing involves russians makes just as much sense as to say all growing are armed or producers of meth or whatever. WE KNOW NEITHER IS TRUE and false association is a 5 year olds defense and at worst has been used to defend horrible actions of abuse and genocide. Grow up…focus your fight on cartels destroying national forests and public lands and do your neighbors a favor and move away from humboldt. If you hate weed the why in the hell are you here? Are you aware of what this area is known for? Jah live


  46. ridwanzero
    December 28, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Congratulations on defeating that ferocious Straw Man you created, the one who supports bulletproof vest thugs and rat poison dumpers.

    Feel free to continue to ignore the plain fact that it is Prohibition that leads to these problems. You haven’t let facts or logic interfere with your opinionating so far, so why start now, right?……..


  47. hell yes!
    October 31, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    I hope California legalizes marijuana. I live in the bible belt in the east and the self richeous bible thumpers here keep the alcohol botleggers and marijuana dealers in business. I will never see it become legal here but if California votes it in, I know where I’m gonna vacation next summer! I’m age seventy and have smoked my share of pot and it’s great to help me sleep and relax. This “Reefer Madness” BS has gone on long enough!!!!

  48. Anonymous
    January 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Not A Native, but still a fuckin knucklehead. Don’t hate on green cause you can’t keep your panties out your bum when you first tried lighting up. Also, just an educated guess, you probably have a drinking problem and are very self conscious about it, so you’re here to attempt to stoop others to your level. Well, friend, FYI pot does not cause violence, just as guns don’t, cars don’t, and all other inanimate don’t. The fuss revolving the herb would be there for basically anything that’s illegal, but the strange curve ball in the situation is that pot is chemically, pot is COMPLETELY non toxic and will not harm ones body. In fact, I think if YOU personally were to give it a shot, YOU would end up being more active, and in tern healthier. Spiking interest in things you never thought you would, you may find a new hobby or passion, and will definitely learn something about yourself. It was Bob Marley who graced us with these wise words: “Smoking the herb reveals the man to himself.” Try it for yourself, I bet a million bucks it’ll ring true in your experience as well. Every green eyed fella I’ve met, along with myself, can wholeheartedly contest to the fact that pot makes us want to be better people. I want to hug my family, spend more time with them, and try harder with things that matter. Every time I’ve felt like pummeling someone, I have a puff, remember what really matters to me, and why I do not want to throw that away for stuff that won’t matter if I walk away. This is in no way true with other mind altering substances. Other substances, mainly alcohol, exasperates these emotions astronomically. So tell me everyone, is it really fare to knock something that causes no harm whatsoever, to the user or those around; instills no fear, hatred, or anger; and has been proven countless times to induce creativity, outside-the-box concrete thinking, patience, and care into one’s tasks. Try to think outside the box of booze your head’s stuck in, and you’ll see.

    I DARE ANYONE AND EVERYONE TO ATTEMPT TO DISPROVE ANY OF MY STATEMENTS- Consume within reason, and give it a fair shot. I promise you, friend, will end up with a whole world of new hobbies.

  49. Just Watchin
    January 6, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Anon……a very timely response to a post from over two and a half years ago. You must really be on the GOOD stuff today!!!

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