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Eureka will appeal court ruling on recruiting ban

military-recruitingThe City of Eureka gave unanimous direction to City Attorney Sheryl Schaffner to appeal a court ruling that overturned a local ban on military recruiting of underaged children.

Schaffner announced the appeal at the start of Tuesday’s City Council meeting.

Eureka joins the City of Arcata, which passed a similar ban in the November election, in appealing the court’s decision.

  1. July 7, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    A standing army violates The US Constitution, seeing how it’s a threat to Liberty.

  2. Anonymous
    July 7, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Good for Eureka!

  3. Not A Native
    July 7, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    They did the right thing and I’m glad it was unanimous. In Arcata, it just squeaked through 3 to 2. All you local pundits need to reset your stereotypes about both cities.

  4. Anonymous
    July 7, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Yep, in Eureka they pander to polls and public opinion no matter how fruitless the effort. In Arcata some people know when they’re wasting everyone’s time.

  5. July 7, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Silly, at best, that they’re pursuing this.

  6. Ed
    July 7, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Yes, by all means Fred. Let them recruit our children. It’s best to teach them to shoot first and ask questions later while they’re still at that impressionable age. How else will they learn to follow orders and obey the chains of command?

  7. Clean Cut McDaddy
    July 7, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Was there any indication of how much the appeal would cost?

  8. Chris
    July 7, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Perhaps parents can take some of the responsibility and raise their children such that they are intelligent enough to make an educated decision. If your dumb-ass 18 year old is so impressionable that he/she is going to be “talked into” joining the armed forces, then so be it. Maybe you should have read them a story or two. Be a parent for Christ sakes.

  9. Ed
    July 7, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    18 year olds are adults and can do whatever they want. It’s the minors the recruiters are also going after. That said, I agree that parents’ involvement with their kids is key and often sorely lacking.

  10. anonymous
    July 7, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Parents took parental responsibility when they voted to ban recruitment for Christ sakes.

  11. Da Man
    July 8, 2009 at 6:49 am

    Why not- there’s plenty of extra money in the City coffers to pay for symbolic gestures.

  12. bull moose
    July 8, 2009 at 6:58 am

    Black Flag, invading armies are a threat to liberty too. I’m kinda glad the U.S. had some semblance of standing army in 1941, aren’t you?

  13. A Non A Me
    July 8, 2009 at 7:39 am

    Why worry, it is not going to cost the city anything and the appeal will suffer the same fate the second time around.

  14. High Finance
    July 8, 2009 at 8:10 am

    Unbelievable. The taxpayers of Eureka should sue the city council people as individuals to recoup the cost of this appeal.

    The proposition changed not one single procedure of how the recruiters operated. It was nothing other than a chance to insult every member of our armed forces & every veteran by the anti military types. Dave Meserve & Kaitlin Soppica-Belknap are trying their best to drive a wedge between people.

  15. unanonymous
    July 8, 2009 at 8:46 am

    waste of money. If you worry about your child being recruited you may want to try and teach it to think for itself and when an adult to make responsible decisions for itself. Which, I am sorry to say, includes military service. If not, we should ban teachers from telling our kids about any type of career. Shit, they may become bankers or worse yet, wannabe journalists!

  16. Anonymous
    July 8, 2009 at 9:14 am

    unanonymous

    What is wrong with young people joing the military or having the option to join the military, and the issue here is 17 year olds? I was 17 when I graduated from high school. I was still 17 when I started college. At that age you couldn’t talk me into using drugs or joining the military. YOU ARE SO COCERNED ABOUT CHILDREN YOU REFER TO THEM AS “IT”.

    PS I decided to join the military at 18 without being recruited, never even met a recruiter until the day I walked in and volunteered. The military was a good experience and it paid for college. I’m still proud of my military service and my honorable discharge. I’ll bet you don’t have an honorable discharge?

  17. mresquan
    July 8, 2009 at 9:34 am

    “PS I decided to join the military at 18 without being recruited, never even met a recruiter until the day I walked in and volunteered.”

    This measure doesn’t prevent a 17 year old from doing that.The measure puts an end to the relentless soliciting to minors,and ALLOWS THEM the opportunity to make decisions themselves,instead of being coerced into something.

  18. unanonymous
    July 8, 2009 at 9:48 am

    I think you misread my post or I fail to communicate effectively. I agree with you. It is a non gender specific, singular pro-noun referring to both genders (I think, I am not mr grammar). I am not aware of the word it becoming a slur but would not be surprised.

    Military service is something to be proud of when conducted with honor. Thank you for your service. I was trying to point out that people who are afraid of their child being exposed to different points of view and experiences that are not predatory or obscene (there may be others) are close minded. I don’t see military recruiters on campus as any more predatory than DFG recruiters bringing fuzzy animals to get kids in to wildlife careers. It is up to the parent to ensure their child can make responsible decisions, one that would include the realization of the risk that you may very well die in military service and that it is not a free ride to college or job training.

  19. Anonymous
    July 8, 2009 at 10:23 am

    “being coerced” ?

    Doesn’t seem like you have much faith in 17 year olds.

  20. HumRed
    July 8, 2009 at 11:09 am

    You are making charges against recruiters that are not based on facts. Relentless soliciting, coerced into a decision. I also graduated High School at 17, college at 18, and military at 20 (in those days there was a draft). Never had a recruiter talk to me at all. Raised several children, again no recruiters. I am glad I don’t live in Eureka, I would be pissed off having to pay for this dumb shit. This is just stupidity brought about by Katlin, Cobb, and Meserve. None who ever served anyone but themselves. If parents raised kids to make responsible decisions, at 17 they should be able to make their own.

  21. Anonymous
    July 8, 2009 at 11:16 am

    I was under the delusion that we are a nation of laws as opposed to being a nation of men. Hek – I guess John Adams was incorrect also. Sad commentary. If the “pro bono” lawyers had only advanced a response to the governments arguments, the Judge wouldn’t have called off arguments. They could not and was considered a waste of time. They can not raise new arguments in the appeal. So, they will lose again. This is just reality folks. No new arguments on appeal. Did any of you even read the governments pleadings and Arcata/Eureka’s response? No, because if any reasonable and intelligent person had read it you would understand the futility of this.

  22. unanonymous
    July 8, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    thanks 11:16 but facts are not what we’re looking for here.

  23. July 12, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    That’s great!

    As for all of the Eurekan idle hands that will miss random shooting and skull cracking, they can still join the EPD!

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