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Buju Banton back in Humboldt

finalreggaephobic_finalUPDATE 10/05/09: The show is canceled.

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Homophobic reggae artist Buju Banton has seen other cities cancel his shows amid protests of his gay-bashing lyrics, but Eureka isn’t one of them.  He’ll be performing at Nocturnum on October 11.

This is at least the second Banton concert in Humboldt County.  He played the Mateel in the fall of 2006 (he must like Humboldt County this time of year), and Eric Kirk covered the controversy.

Banton is unapologetic for his lyrics which encourage people to violently murder gay men.

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  1. September 30, 2009 at 10:55 am

    So? Isn’t free speech protected under the former Constitution of Banker Occupied North America?

    You are all here because your parents weren’t gay!

    Who cares about what people are into? If people spent half the time looking into the bribes behind mandatory trash collection as they do wanting PC Speech- we’d have long ago shut down city hall.

    Maybe Larry Glass & The Council will be the opening band?

    Maybe Jerry Gar(cia) isn’t really dead?

    Welcome to 1984, are you ready for the third world war? You too will meet the secret police, they’ll draft you and they’ll jail your niece.

    I for one have hopes this show will bring out all that closet PC hatred the sheeple love to flaunt, because it’s ok to hate what we don’t like.

    He should play a show at that auntie’s place….now that’s supporting free speech.

    As Obama said when he made that Mission Accomplished Speech on the aircraft carrier wearing that flight suit-

    Bring ‘Em On!

  2. Zeno
    September 30, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Speech advocating violence against a class of individual may be protected by the first amendment. Fortunately, that doesn’t mean that (i) a venue is obliged to book such a concert, (ii) that you or I or anybody is obliged to support this bigotry by attending the concert, or (iii) that fora like HH cannot be used to denounce such concerts.

    @BF above: “Who care what people are into” — that’s your take on speech advocating killing gay people? Do you want anybody to take you seriously, or are you merely seeking attention by making outrageous comments? What if someone was walking around your town urging people to kill your children? Is that also something you support?

  3. September 30, 2009 at 11:20 am

    Obama gets on tv and talks about bombing Iran- that’s protected and you aren’t up in arms….how is this jerk any different?

    The UN openly states they want to kill most of the population on the planet and you aren’t up in arms.

    You follow the path Madison Ave has set forth for you to walk….take your mark of the beast for you are going to Hell.

  4. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 11:29 am

    Please spend as much time researching Buju Banton and his music as you do finding a picture to match such an inaccurate portrayal.

    Buju’s one song that is mistaken for advocating hatred against homosexuals gets more attention by detractors than by Buju or his fans. Boom Bye Bye is also a statement against violence that was performed early in his career. A “Batty Boy” is not a blanket term for all homosexuals but that is the common misconception. The term refers to predatory homosexual man that rape boys. A situation that is more common than anybody wants to accept.

    Buju Banton has hundreds of songs about love, culture, truth & rights, herbs, and Jah. Those are the ones his fans are looking forward to.

  5. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    especially the herbs.

  6. Mr. Nice
    September 30, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    The basic problem is these dancehall artists who think they are orthodox rastafarians. These type of people follow the old testament as if it were true but they should know that this book is nothing but white man lies. The orthodox rastas think they are Israelites but we all know that the concepts of Israelites and God are nothing but lies courtesy of the white man and to copy that is just copying the oppressor. These rastas pretend they are shunning the oppressor by oppressing their own just like their oppressor oppressed them. Sodomy laws are an English invention after all… it’s not as if Yorubaland had any such code before her children were taken as slaves. It is not as if there is an original black concept of sexual identity rules as they relate to some type of western monotheistic cultural shit. All of this biblical homophobia is a shameful duplicate of hateful colonial brainwashing tales.

    Anonymous, you know that song isn’t about child predators. If it was about child predators, it would say that. It doesn’t. Besides, dude is alleged to have actively taken part in a violent gay bashing incident. He refused to be part of the “Reggae Compassionate Act” even though his keepers wanted him to. The issue is the man in particular, not twisting the words of his song. You don’t need to apologize for him by saying he is full of love and shit, Boom Bye Bye speaks for itself.

    I guess this religious dancehall issue doesn’t work well with any type of discussion of real issues since we are talking about people who make money preaching a bunch of fantasy bullshit. I’ll try to be more relevant.

    Rahtid… Buju Banton? ‘im nuh dun yet? ‘im nuh know a wah im a chat seh!

    Bumboclaat Buju: Unu find fault wid every ting people do. Try fi sing with diginity an nuh downpress yu brethren an sistren.

    Show me yu company, mi tell yu who yu are… Bobo Dread? Nawwww, yu raas claat bungo dread.

    Buju Banton… Bullet!

  7. Confusion Jones
    September 30, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Be nice is the rabid wings of our democracy actually cared about Freedom of Speech… if you dont like it, dont listen.

  8. Mr. Nice
    September 30, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    It’s not even about what is being said at this point. It’s how dude acts. Few think the actual words have any real meaning. We know that this so-called artistry is just a money making scheme and not some kind of religious/cultural purity. To think modern international reggae music is all spirit is as much crap as thinking televangelists are some revolutionary spiritual dudes.

    This Banton character refuses to fess up for his involvement in the alleged beating and his not being on board with other artists. His actions are shameful. He can say whatever he wants but that doesn’t mean he is immune from being fucked with by those of who think he is a disgrace. Our freedom of speech is protected as well.

  9. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    In an interesting coincidence, October 11th is National Coming Out Day.

    I can’t think of anyplace I’d rather celebrate the day than outside Nocturnum, picketing.

    http://www.hrc.org/issues/coming_out/13476.htm

  10. RTorque
    September 30, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Not all speech is protected. Inciting life-threatening action, for example, is not. Classic case of “fire!” in a crowded place…

    You can speechify all you want against homosexual behavior, but hate speech directed toward homosexual individuals is entirely different since homophobia can so easily be triggered into murderous action – Mathew Shepard’s murder being the archetype of such vigilantism.

    I can question the behavior of making more children in this time of global harm to all from excess use of resources (what is the carbon footprint of adding yet one more person to the planet?). This is protected speech and not at all the same as advocating the murder of specific children.

  11. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    What is the name and address of the owner of the club?

  12. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    What are the names and addresses of the homophobe and his associates?

  13. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    How is this piece-of-shit “rap artist” known as “Buju Banton” who advocates the murder of gay people any worse than that other piece-of-shit “rap artist” known as “Snoop Dog” who advocates the dehumanization and victimization of women?

    I will never knowingly do business with any person who facilitates the appearance of either of these anti-human scum-buckets on any stage in Humboldt County.

  14. How about?
    September 30, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    First of all, Banton has played in Humboldt many times. He has been featured at Reggae on the River a number of times and the Mateel also a number of times. How about we just avoid the show because he kinda sucks?

    Second, to Black Flag: my mom was gay, and you are an idiot. Going to hell??? Constitution??? What kind of half-assed anarchist are you, fool?

    Third, pretty much every Reggae star that you can all remember is/was homophobic. and they did lots of coke. And they think a chauvinist monarch that illegally deposed his sister for the throne of Ethiopia is the second coming. Literally. As in, he is Christ reborn. and they think you gals need to stay in the house, bare foot and pregnant. Seriously. Look into the real philosophy of Rastafari. It is basically a fundamentalist Christian cult. Yes, yes… liberation from oppression. So do the fundamentalists. Yes, yes…love and light. So do the fundamentalists. Yes, yes…thanks and praise. So do the fundamentalists. It has bugged me for a while. They have hair and they smoke weed, so the hippies dig it.

    Third, of course he has free speech. And he will have to do much more than sing about his hatred of gays to leave protected speech. His speech would have to create an imminent threat. ANd of course, if you engage your right to free speech, you will likely have to deal with someone’s free speech. Like when someone has a blog that points out that you are a dip**** homophobe.

  15. Eric Kirk
    September 30, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    I wondered why I was getting all those hits to those posts. Just as the Reggae War comes to an end. (Sig). Yeah, I have to do a follow up. Thanks for the notice Heraldo.

    I picketed his last concert. I may drive up there to picket this one.

  16. September 30, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    I hope to see the community rise up against hate and discrimination, and actively protest this show. And I’m not just referring to the gay community, but the entire community.

    You can bet I’ll have fun pulling Buju’s show fliers…I suggest that local businesses do the same. Just don’t forget to recycle them…

  17. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Who stands to make money from this event? What are their names and addresses?

  18. Mr. Nice
    September 30, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Third, pretty much every Reggae star that you can all remember is/was homophobic. and they did lots of coke. And they think a chauvinist monarch that illegally deposed his sister for the throne of Ethiopia is the second coming. Literally. As in, he is Christ reborn. and they think you gals need to stay in the house, bare foot and pregnant. Seriously. Look into the real philosophy of Rastafari. It is basically a fundamentalist Christian cult. Yes, yes… liberation from oppression. So do the fundamentalists. Yes, yes…love and light. So do the fundamentalists. Yes, yes…thanks and praise. So do the fundamentalists. It has bugged me for a while. They have hair and they smoke weed, so the hippies dig it.

    While I agree with the gist of what you are saying, there are different groups of Rastafari just as there are different Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists etc. You can’t tell me that every dreadlocked Rasta believes every single Rasta idea. That is like saying the Taliban and the Nation of Islam are equivalent in their belief system. Many Rastas are progressive and the majority are quite sane and believe in the more uplifting ideals such as healthful living and the concept of “Ital” (the personal “I” of vitality, like I-and-I) as it concerns food, drink, and physical activity. Good living and spirit are the emphases of the average Rastafari devotee.

    Buju Banton identifies with the ultra-orthodox group. Whether this is his true belief or is a marketing gimmick, I can’t say. This is the group that I see as far-flung and oppressive. Their ideas are clearly geared more towards a fanatical belief in the Old Testament than the benefit of eating organic yams. They are as radically different from the mainstream Rastas as Zionists are from mainstream Jews.

    So, comparing Rastafari to fundamentalist Christianity is not so accurate. There is a gray area as there is with anything else concerning spirituality and personal belief.

  19. Mr. Nice
    September 30, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    And I just wish these artists could be politically radical in the sense that Marcus Garvey presented radical ideas instead of being stuck on this whole “batty bwoi” nonsense. Sometimes I feel like this new breed of reggae dudes are media-manufactured puppets intended to ruin the truly great musical works of earlier reggae.

  20. anon
    September 30, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    This reminds me of a blog post last year-someone overheard two ‘rasta’ types in Arcata having a heated disagreement over who was more Rasta and they shouldn’t hang out/be friends with the ‘fake’ ones…

  21. How about?
    September 30, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Mr. Nice, Indeed it is as nuanced as you say and much more so. I think you understood my point, though. I just get really bored with the uninfromed embrace of RASTA!! that I see and hear all the time around here. I do not think that 99% of the follks that go dread and sport the red, gold and green have any idea what the meaning is.

    I know and am immediately related to many Rasta. Real Rasta. By real I am meaning to say people who grew up in families and cultures were it is taken very seriously as a religion and as a way of life. Those in my family have had to deal with the fact that the family also includes very out queers. (interesting (to me) microcosm of the SoHum scene that books so many Reggae shows.) While my family manages not to beat each to death (except on the holidays) or light each other on fire, it is understood that there is very real disapproval of the lives of other members. Rasta belief in the sin of homosexuality is not a fringe element, it is mainstream Rastafarian belief.

    You are right that there are widely different interpretations within Rasta. However, it is Rasta. Ras Tafari is the name (Ras means prince) of Haile Salassie I before becoming emperor. He is seen as the incarnation of God, the second coming. He lived until pretty recently in religious history terms. So there has simply not been enough time for as diversified a spread within Rasta as with in Judaism or other religions. (I would hold that Rastafarianism are a variant of Christianity.)

    I don’t mean to say boo to all Rastas or to reggae music. I am just saying, it is religious dogma like any other.

    And Ital food is bomb!!!

    And now for something that will completely blow my credibility in a civilized debate:

    What is the difference between a white dreadlock and yogurt?

    Yogurt has a live active culture.

  22. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Black Flag sucks. The band and the idiot in this thread.

  23. michael
    September 30, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    I view homophobia as repressed homosexuality. Going out with the boys and beating fags is just sick, twisted, violent, repressed queers bonding with each other.
    How About, I hadn’t heard of Tafari’s sister’s story, although I remember seeing a picture of her with the royal family. Please tell more.
    PS The Smithsonian’s Natural History Museum currently has a small room sized temporary display about Rastifarianism. I saw it in July but don’t know how much longer it goes. They briefly mention “ganja” as a sacrament on about the 13th out of 17 display panels.

  24. Shane Brinton
    September 30, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    I just wrote to People Productions to ask them to cancel the show. I encourage others to do the same. Write to: people@peopleproductions.net

    Does anyone have an email address for the venue, Nocturnum?

    Buju Banton concerts in other cities have been canceled as a result of public protest. Let’s try to make the same thing happen here!

  25. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 6:53 pm
  26. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Shane, reading your post has given me a lift. Thanks for the link. I will use it, and I encourage others to use it, too.

  27. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    God forbid we should allow artists — of all people — to have an open dialogue.

  28. Eric Kirk
    September 30, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    God forbid we should allow artists — of all people — to have an open dialogue.

    Just so we’re clear, is this the “open dialogue” you’re talking about?

    Buju Banton – Boom Bye Bye
    Boom bye bye

    Boom [as in gun sound] goodbye, goodbye [as in we won’t be seeing you again, you’re dead]

    Inna batty bwoy head
    In a queer’s head

    Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
    Rude boys don’t promote no queer men

    Dem haffi dead
    They have to die

    Send fi di matic an
    Send for the automatic [gun] and
    Di Uzi instead
    The Uzi instead

    Shoot dem no come if we shot dem
    Shoot them, don’t come if we shoot them [as in don’t come to help them]

    Guy come near we
    If a man comes near me
    Then his skin must peel
    Then his skin must peel [as in pour acid over him]

    Burn him up bad like an old tire wheel
    Burn him up badly, like you would burn an old tire wheel

  29. Anonymous
    September 30, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    “Buju Banton concerts in other cities have been canceled as a result of public protest. Let’s try to make the same thing happen here!”

    Way to go! Let’s protest!

    Tell you what: I’ll post to Twitter. Shane? You send out a mass email.

    Down with BugJuice Batton!

    Oh, and Fred? You’re not invited. You’re not diverse enough. Sorry.

  30. 421
    September 30, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    in 1988, aged 15, he first recorded his most controversial song, “Boom Bye Bye,” the lyrics calling for the murder of homosexuals by shooting and/or burning (“like an old tire wheel”).[3] The song was written in response to a widely reported man/boy rape case in Jamaica.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buju_Banton

  31. September 30, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    “…it’s ok to hate what we don’t like.”

    If there’s an award for unintentionally funny post, Black Flag’s should be nominated.

  32. Eric Kirk
    September 30, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Buju’s one song that is mistaken for advocating hatred against homosexuals gets more attention by detractors than by Buju or his fans. Boom Bye Bye is also a statement against violence that was performed early in his career. A “Batty Boy” is not a blanket term for all homosexuals but that is the common misconception. The term refers to predatory homosexual man that rape boys. A situation that is more common than anybody wants to accept.

    The lyrics:

    Inna batty bwoy head
    In a queer’s head

    Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
    Rude boys don’t promote no queer men

    So what’s the explanation for “queer” again?

  33. Anonymous
    October 1, 2009 at 12:19 am

    If this so-called artist no longer believes in the murder of gay men, what has he done (since he wrote and performed that song) that proves his change of heart? Anything? Anything at all?

    No? I didn’t think so.

  34. Shane Brinton
  35. RTorque
    October 1, 2009 at 12:54 am

    “God forbid we should allow artists — of all people — to have an open dialogue.”

    The theory is — artist or not — since it’s such a “hot button” topic, this particular sort of communication is especially likely to incite vigilante murder.

    The “open dialogue” may indeed be about changing the law so that statutory, homosexual rape is a capital offense, but talking about necklacing an individual just because someone merely accuses them of it is too dangerous. Again, classic “fire!” in a crowded place…

    Vigilantism requires very little to muster murderous intent in a mob. People in groups regularly exhibit lowered moral standards. The law is in place to prevent this psychological phenomena by mandating a more deliberate procedure.

    The law is a consensus of the thought of the majority. Maybe those who might have been raped might feel the death penalty is right for such an act, most do not. It it is not for the extreme few to exact punishment not agreed upon by the majority.

    The resources and procedures of The State are such as to provide the most reassurance possible that someone falsely accused is not punished merely because a vigilante has some sort of vendetta without substantial proof. The State utilizes the power of the collective resources of all (yeah, Socialism.) to ensure justice – resources far beyond those available to a vigilante.

    Of course this is not an ideal world. There is no guarantee of justice and some laws are themselves unjust.. But, as opposed to vigilantism as advocated by these lyrics, The State’s law is more reliable in the long run than individuals taking the law into their own hands.

  36. 421
    October 1, 2009 at 7:09 am

    glad to see the left is still tolerant as usual. it is sick what he wrote when he was fifteen, but getting all stirred up about something that was written some years ago and for something that he “probably” was involved in? You don’t have to go to the concert, why wreck it for others? shane, is that the standard you hold for william ayers? he was probably involved in some terrorist activities, was he not?

  37. October 1, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Since Obama invaded Iraq under a UN Mandate ( man date- lol ) he’s killed untold millions- where’s the outrage?

    Love to watch the PC enjoy Hate Week…..

    We hate when it’s ok to hate, we tolerate only ourselves- anything else should be closed down or censored.

    LOVE IT! makes me want to vote or support a government election! lol

  38. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 7:45 am

    Thank you Shane Brinton. I wish I lived in Arcata so I could vote for you.

    I haven’t noticed any other pols stepping forward.

  39. 06em
    October 1, 2009 at 8:01 am

    The natural result of hate speech can be found by googling any of the following names:

    Dr. George Tiller

    Stephen Tyrone Jones

    Bill Sparkman

    Greg McKendry

    Linda Kraeger

    These killings all happened in the last two years. Words matter, and those who have the public ear have responsibility.

  40. October 1, 2009 at 8:06 am

    Black Flag— Obama invaded Iraq?

    Even those of us with short term memory loss understands that it was the Bush Cheney regime that committed the war crime of preemtive war in Iraq. And they did it without a UN mandate.

    You are either very confused or deliberately lying about this. I agree with you on some issues but I have to call you out on this one.

    I am outraged that Obama hasn’t pulled our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and brought them home and I speak my mind. Don’t try to make up history BF.

    have a peaceful day
    Bill

  41. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 8:09 am

    Somebody agrees with Black Flag about something? I’d always thought he was making lame jokes in an attempt to get people riled up.

  42. October 1, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Yes, I agree with Black Flag that the Federal Reserve bank needs to be eliminated, it is not a government agency it is a private bank that is printing our money.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  43. October 1, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Racists and bigots have a right to free speech. We don’t have to listen.
    I think that Buju Banton’s music sucks.

  44. Eric Kirk
    October 1, 2009 at 9:43 am

    No Tom, but we do have the right to respond to it. Nobody’s advocating that he be censored.

  45. Denise
    October 1, 2009 at 10:01 am

    You mean free speech like Bill O Reilly calling for the killing of the abortion doctor?
    Oh right, that was legal.

  46. Eric Kirk
    October 1, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Let’s not forget that he was probably involved in a homophobic hate crime.

    Shane, I looked into that the last time around, and while there’s a bunch of smoke I didn’t find any fire. It is weird that witnesses who had agreed to show just decided not to, but there are reasonable explanations for that which do not involve intimidation. They may have been browbeaten into their initial statements and decided they didn’t want any part of it. I admit it is weird that official statements had been filed with the police and obtained by human rights organizations, but that doesn’t prove that Banton was involved. The police may have been under a lot of pressure to solve the case, and decided to take short cuts.

    Also, it would have been remarkably stupid for Banton to be involved in an incident like that given that his shows were already being canceled due to much less.

    The information being what it is, I would just as soon assume his innocence in that regard.

    As for the song, all I ask is that he repudiate its call for violence and pledge never to sing it again (as he has on at least one occasion within the past few years). I wouldn’t even ask him to swear off homophobia if that’s too much for him. Just the violence.

  47. Anonymous
    October 1, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Ras Tafari is the name (Ras means prince) of Haile Salassie I before becoming emperor. He is seen as the incarnation of God, the second coming. He lived until pretty recently in religious history terms. So there has simply not been enough time for as diversified a spread within Rasta as with in Judaism or other religions. (I would hold that Rastafarianism are a variant of Christianity.)

    Marcus Garvey said it better than I can in his editorial “The Failure of Haile Selassie as Emperor”. Garvey got booed off stage several times for making this statement. Garvey was right though, Selassie had no nuts.

  48. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 11:27 am

    If revoking the invitation and cancelling the concert is “censorship,” I’m all for censorship.

    I’m disturbed by the attitude many people have towards free speech, which I think is a complete misunderstanding.

    The Constitution protects people from GOVERNMENT interference with speech. But a lot of people think, for example, that a newspaper — the Lumberjack comes to mind — would be violating free speech if it declined to publish a hateful ad.

    There is absolutely no moral, let alone legal, requirement to publish something you don’t believe in. There is absolutely no moral, let alone legal, requirement to invite a homophobic “artist” to the area.

    If People Productions wanted to make money by inviting “David Duke and the KKKers” to the area, I’d be perfectly within my rights to try to hurt People Productions in the wallet. Same if they brought in the “God Hates Fags” wackos. I don’t care how well Banton can sing: I hope People Productions revokes the invitation or goes under.

  49. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Eric,

    Check out this link; this is what the thug claims he never signed…

    If he couldn’t sing, would you think there was a lot of smoke but no fire? I guess witness intimidation is your solution to a lot of problems.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jul/23/musicnews.gayrights#article_continue

  50. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 11:59 am

    People Productions, on their web page, indicates that it is sponsored by NHS (Northcoast Hydroponics?), Humboldt Wholesale (pot garden supplies), and Universal Balance Productions (Sam Safir of McKinleyville). I’d suggest you let them know if you have gay friends you’d rather not get killed.

  51. Eric Kirk
    October 1, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Mitch – Look, I and only a couple of other people protested the concert last time he was here, and took a lot of flack for it. I’m not minimalizing anything. But all you have is that witness statements were allegedly signed (I’ve not seen any website or medium show us photos of those statements taken by the human rights org) and that no witness showed up for trial.

    Call me a bleeding heart criminal defense lawyer, but that’s not evidence. Do we know if the prosecution/police even notified the witnesses of the trial date? Do we know anything about the witnesses? We can speculate as to why the information is not forthcoming. We can speculate as to why the prosecution went into trial without evidence. But we really don’t have the information.

    And yes, particularly in a country where there are serious problems with the criminal justice system, intimidating witnesses can solve a lot of problems. What’s your solution? To presume guilt?

  52. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    “…to presume guilt?”

    In a criminal trial, no. In the matter of locking him up? No. In the court of public opinion, around whether to invite him? Absolutely.

    (And thanks for protesting last time.)

  53. Mr. Nice
    October 1, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    People Productions, on their web page, indicates that it is sponsored by NHS (Northcoast Hydroponics?), Humboldt Wholesale (pot garden supplies), and Universal Balance Productions (Sam Safir of McKinleyville). I’d suggest you let them know if you have gay friends you’d rather not get killed.

    NHS = Northcoast Horticultural Supply is a retail outlet run by the same organization as Humboldt Wholesale. The hydro-conglomerate is all run by the same dude who has hydroponic/home garden retail and wholesale businesses up and down the coast and as far east as Colorado last I checked. He also owns a business which wholesales eco-groovy home products including biodegradable plastic compost bags and such. NHS charges way less than the nurseries and carries a bunch of local products that the nurseries won’t touch. Their prices keep the other hydro stores around here from trying to overcharge. I have respect for dude as a businessman. I wouldn’t doubt if People’s Productions are just used for the advertising.

    If you want to boycott a gardening store based on foul politics, boycott Miller Farms.

  54. Eric Kirk
    October 1, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Mitch – It was a candlelight vigil. I was actually alone for awhile until a couple of similarly thinking people happened to drive by having heard me announce my intentions on the radio. I’ve never done that alone before.

    Got some positive reactions from kids who said they’d paid for their tickets but thanked me for letting them know about it. A couple of idiots knew why I was there and ran by a few times trying to blow out my candle. A couple of angry shouts from vehicles driving by.

    It was all pretty short notice. Most of the community thought the show had been canceled.

    My point wasn’t to blow my own horn. I just think there’s plenty to complain about based upon what we can know, prove and reasonably protest. The other may be true, but there’s too much ambiguity for me to jump on that bandwagon.

    If something is organized, preferably a peaceful candlelight vigil perfect for the season, I hope to drive up on the 11th. Let me know.

  55. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Mr. Nice,

    If NHS is as nice as you say, I’m sure they’ll withdraw their support from People Productions. Otherwise, they are supporting advocacy of the murder of gay people. Simple as that.

  56. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Eric,

    Thanks for the further information. A candlelight vigil may or may not be appropriate, depending on what the status of ticket sales is. I’d much rather get this show canceled and this artist (and company) out of Humboldt than sing nicey-nicey songs outside while they make blood money inside.

    Scroll up to the lyrics this guy penned — I won’t even cut and paste them. Imagine if he’d written these lyrics about black people, women, hispanics, etc…, and then was involved in a lynching where the witnesses never showed up in court. I doubt Humboldt’s love tribes would be inviting the poor misunderstood racist/misogynist.

    Love, peace, jah, hah. BANTON OUT OF HUMBOLDT.

  57. Anonymous
    October 1, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    I appreciate the support of each of you who opposes this concert by this inciter of murder against me and my gay peers.

    The idea of trying to stop the concert before it starts is best. Humboldt is better than this hatemonger. We don’t need Humboldt to be associated with violent criminals any more than it already is.

    But one thing we do not need is a candle-light vigil. I want gay people to project power and support from the whole community. Parading around at night unarmed with only candles for self-protection is not symbolism, it is suicide – when we are dealing with armed haters like the ones who would attend a concert like this.

    We need to project strength and be able to defend ourselves at the protest. Of course we should use only legal means of self-defense. But let’s not just place ourselves in harm’s way as targets for the very people who relish the idea of killing us. Armed self-defense is as legal for gay people as it is for anyone else in our society. Knowing that, we should plan our protest together, with our own and our common self-protection in mind.

    In fairness, EPD would almost certainly be on our side, but their numbers are thin, so we can’t rely on them to do what every human being has an absolute right to do, which is to provide for our own self-defense.

    One more thing. If the event is not cancelled, we should have photographers prepared to take pictures of each person entering the event. The faces should then be posted online so each gay person (and our allies) in our county can know who these haters are and be on the alert if the haters are seen making suspicious moves near our local gay people or our friends, families, coworkers, and so on.

    As the old saying goes, Forewarned is Forearmed. When dealing with murderers and the supporters of murderers, the intended victims need to be able to recognise our oppressors’ faces before they move against us.

    Mitch, Shane, Eric, Jeff, Heraldo, Thanks. Many thanks!

  58. Eric Kirk
    October 1, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Mitch – I’m aware of the lyrics. I posted them. :&)

    The vigil is aimed at reaching the kids going in, not making nice with Banton. In my experience it has a much more profound impact than an angry demo with placards. The point is to make the kids to realize what they are supporting, even if by default. I’ve given up hope that he will change his attitude about the whole thing.

  59. Anonymous
    October 1, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    The most important thing, Eric, is to make sure the gay-haters don’t get reinforced in their idea that we gays are weak, unarmed, and easy to kill.

    Candles would reinforce those ideas. So would singing Kumbaya or We Are The World.

    Standing together with thought-provoking placards in a dignified demonstration against hatred would do what needs to be done. There is no need for provocative, angry shouting. Just the quiet projection of our strength, our solidarity, and our value as human beings as worthy as anyone else. A demonstration like that, with gays and their supporters, would be a life-affirming experience, I am sure.

  60. Eric Kirk
    October 1, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    I strongly disagree as to what it reinforces. Blustering and posturing as armed actually reinforces an image of impotence trying to masquerade as masculine. There is nothing powerless about quiet witness. I guarantee that the quiet protests strike more fear into the hearts of power than all the posturing in the world. When you are fighting a dangerous idea, what is powerful is the power of witness. It can end or prevent wars. You don’t get more powerful than that.

  61. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Hey Eric,

    I’d like to speak offline. Please send an email if you’d like — I’m mjtrac at that gmail thing.

  62. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    The owner of Nocturnum is Gil Miracle, and his email address is gilmiracle@sbcglobal.net. Nocturnum’s phone number is 499-0163.

    Please let these people know what you think of their making money off a concert by someone who advocates the death of gay people.

  63. Anonymous
    October 1, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Eric, you are entitled to your opinions based on your life experiences and I am entitled to mine. I am a gay man. I have been living as a public “out” gay man in Humboldt County since the 1970s. I have attended candle-light vigils when I thought them appropriate. But I don’t need you to paint a picture of spiritual strength and phsysical weakness to people who come into my home and threaten to kill me because they perceive me to be as weak as you appear to be.

    Your attack upon my masculinity is a hoot.

    If you think my posts are blustering and posturing, go ahead and think any stupid thing you want.

    My preference for any demonstration would be that it contain absolutely no show of physical agresssion, but that the protestors be prepared to defend themselves and their friends if they are attacked.

    That is apparently too masculine for the bookish core of you, so too bad.

    Just don’t carry a candle and sing a song and deceive my enemies into thinking you are gay, because we are tougher than you.

  64. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 1, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Dear Anonymous,

    Before you slam into Eric much more, please keep in mind that he went out ALONE to do a vigil the last time Banton came to Humboldt County.

    Sometimes it’s easier to attack the people with whom we’re in 99% agreement than it is to attack those who would truly harm us. I hope we don’t fall into that trap.

    I think I understand where you’re coming from, but I also agree with Eric that silent vigil can be powerful. As I said before, though, I doubt silent vigil is an appropriate response to someone who just plain hates me without having even met me.

  65. Anonymous
    October 1, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Mitch, thanks for sharing your perspective with me. I have read and appreciated the posts you have written here.

    Silent candlelit vigils can be wonderful expressions of love and they can make people think. I’ve participated in several, including my favorite, an anti-Vietnam War candlelit vigil that started at a church on 6th Street in Eureka in 1968. Sadly, candlelit vigils are not always as effective as we would like. You recall America did not withdraw from Vietnam until 1975.

    Let me share a few things in my life that have affected my perceptions of anti-gay violence. For one thing, my life was threatened in 1979 for publicly opposing Prop 6, the Briggs Initiative. That threat was not an idle one. The man who issued it was a well-known homophobe and small arms expert.

    That same year, I met and befriended Harvey Milk only six weeks before he and Mayor Moscone were assassinated at San Francisco City Hall.

    I saw one young gay man beaten outside a bar in Eureka’s Old Town in the early Eighties.

    A friend of mine was beaten so severely by motorcycle thugs in French’s Camp about 25 years ago that he had to have his mouth reconstructed. They didn’t like black gay men.

    Anti-gay violence is serious and I am glad so many good people, gay and non-gay, are willing to take real action to oppose it. I only ask that before we risk confrontation with people such as these Buju Banton fans, we plan our actions with hard physical reality in mind, not arming ourselves only with symbolism and a hopeful attitude.

  66. Eric Kirk
    October 2, 2009 at 1:10 am

    Anonymous – it was a bad choice of words. Sorry.

    And why don’t we compromise? Make it a candlelight vigil and you can pack heat.

    Seriously though, the Banton fans are harmlessly in denial. A few jerks maybe, but mostly just kids looking to party who don’t know anything about the song, which he doesn’t sing anymore, at least not to American audiences. They’re not a threat to you.

    I think printing out the lyrics and handing them to the people going in would probably be the most effective way to reach them.

  67. Rooby Metzger
    October 2, 2009 at 8:05 am

    For everyone looking to excuse buju…realize that this song has been heard millions of times, he still sells copies of it on Amazon, he was video’d recording it in 2006, he denounced the so-called Reggae Compassionate Act he was supposed to sign, and he remains unapologetic for this message of death to gay people.

    (This is why gay people across the world, not just gay men, are revolting against buju…pun intended. Ironically, in California he’s gotten less troble than nationally, I thhink cuz the Cali-gays are focused on Prop. 8, another threat to us.)

    Neither the Nocturnum not People’s Production would have booked this show if a performed had called for the death of, say, Native Americans, or disabled people. That they can shows they value the lives of gay-lesbian-transgender people LESS than other lives. Shame on them.

    Myself and some other students will be outside protesting in memory of the victims of anti-gay violence.

  68. October 2, 2009 at 8:45 am

    Is Buju a citizen? Is he here on a work visa?

    Why do we have to allow someone who has made terroristic statements against a group of people into our country? Can his visa be revoked?

    How about Cat Stevens (Yusef Islam)? Can he come to Humboldt and perform a concert? To my knowledge Yusef Islam is a man of peace and has never threatened anyone yet he was for years banned from travel to the U.S. and may still be for all I know.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  69. October 2, 2009 at 8:53 am

    I looked up Yusef in 2006 he was removed from the watch list and returned to the US without incident so that has been cleared up.

    The question of Bujus status still remains.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  70. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 2, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Thanks, Rooby. I guarantee there will be non-students standing with you as well. Please remember that CAROL BRUNO of PEOPLE PRODUCTIONS is attempting to profit off our blood.

    Keep in mind that GIL MIRACLE of NOCTURNUM has rented Bruno space for this performance.

    Keep in mind that NORTHCOAST HORTICULTURAL SUPPLY is a sponsor of People Productions.

  71. Patrick, NHS, Northcoast Horticulture Supply
    October 2, 2009 at 11:09 am

    As Shum says, we were made aware of this controversy this morning. We were previously unaware of any hateful lyrics by this artist. After checking out the lyrics personally, we are pulling all involvement with this show.

    Patrick
    Operations Manager, NHS
    Northcoast Horticulture Supply

  72. Patrick, the person
    October 2, 2009 at 11:13 am

    OK and this is my personal reaction:

    These lyrics may piss people off, but it is also disturbing to me that one poster would take photos of people entering the show to post on the internet as gay-haters. That kind of hate hating just perpetuates these kind of battles and serves no purpose other than to satisfy your own hate. Hate feeds off of negativity. Let’s keep it positive and be proactive. The person that called us to make us aware of the issue is on the right track. Awareness is key.

    patrick the person

  73. October 2, 2009 at 11:25 am

    After checking out the lyrics personally, we are pulling all involvement with this show.

    Right on, Patrick. Thank you.

  74. October 2, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Patrick, thank you for disassociating your business from this show. Northcoast Horticulture Supply sounds like a great place to do business with.

    Don’t attach too much importance to the postings of an anonymous poster. If you’ll check other topics in the Humboldt Herald, you will find plenty of secretive posters writing outrageous things.

    Thanks again for your support!

  75. Mike Buettner
    October 2, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Thank you Patrick and NHS.

  76. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 2, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Thank you, Patrick. And thank you also for pointing out that it’s not helpful to pile hate on top of hate.

    I’m hopeful that NHS will completely break off any connection with Carol Bruno and People Productions. Bruno was completely aware of the lyrics, because a similar but smaller controversy broke out when she brought Banton to Southern Humboldt.

    It is my hope that either Banton — finally — renounces violence against gay people or that Bruno renounce her association with Banton. Failing that, I hope you understand that a boycott against People Productions and anyone associated with them is not based on hate, but survival.

    I’ll be glad if NHS doesn’t get caught in the controversy.

  77. stephen
    October 2, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    I just hate, haters???
    Keep it real yall. NHS will not promote this event, we want to distance ourselves from Name calling and discrimination. Peace to all!

  78. Mr. Nice
    October 2, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    NHS rules.

    They got the Van De Zwaan House and Garden line. Tight. The shooting powder is the bomb.

    Patrick, you can’t get upset about stuff on the internets until you see the dirt. Dirt like that avalon lady and her cat killer pics. These anonymous haters aren’t going to get off their ass and take pictures of attendees, you gotta be kidding.

  79. SamK
    October 2, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    For a lot of information about Buju Banton see http://cancelbujubanton.wetpaint.com/

    Most of the information on that website is correct. Banton does seem to be performing “Boom Bye Bye” much less often. But he is still making money from the song. He has sung the song for at least 13 years.

    Buju Banton makes no apologies for his calls to “kill gays.” He compares what he says with what churches say about homosexuality and asks “What wrong have I done when I say that homosexuality is wrong?” Video: http://tinyurl.com/awze5l (Most churches don’t openly and publicly call for killing LGBT people).

    Specifically, “Boom Bye Bye” calls for gay men to be shot in the head, shot with an Uzi, have acid thrown in their faces and then to be burned like a tire.

  80. Anonymous
    October 3, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    It doesn’t surprise me that in this lovely liberal enclave, the majority of posters are so eager to tar the victims (gay people just trying to live our lives) as “haters.”

    Examine your zippers, boys, your biases are hanging out.

  81. Anonymous
    October 3, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    To Patrick, NHS: I am glad you made the decision to disassociate your organizaton from Mr. Banton.

    To Patrick, the person: If I want to defend myself and my friends from Mr. Banton and his supporters, that is not hate, as you wrongly claim. It is self-defense. Every creature on God’s Earth has the right to self-defense. Some people use firearms or pepper spray. I am suggesting using modern photographic technology to accomplish the goal of personal and group survival.

  82. Eric Kirk
    October 3, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    It doesn’t surprise me that in this lovely liberal enclave, the majority of posters are so eager to tar the victims (gay people just trying to live our lives) as “haters.”

    Not questioning your point, but I am questioning your arithmetic.

  83. Ras Mike -You idiots ,promoter is gay!
    October 3, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    You all DO realize Carrol Bruno’s Daughter who runs peoples productions is a full on LESBIAN?!

  84. October 3, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Too bad it hasn’t sensitized her to the issue.

  85. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    No, she just understands the idea that the fire burn batty boy is not a literal call. She knows is a part of Jamaican peoples culture ,whether Christian or Rastafarian as well as Jews and Muslims .

  86. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    One needs to understand that in Ja. being gay is on par with being a rapist ,a pedophile ,murderer .Everyday people , like old grannies have this level of distain for gays.It is not some gangsters , dancehall people ect. that feel this way, it is everyone !Raspect peoples culture and their right to not have gays as part of it~! !

  87. October 3, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Equating homosexuals with rape and pedophilia is ignorant, dangerous and deserves no respect.

    The only way to have a culture without gays is to get rid of them. Targeting gays for shooting or burning with acid is a hate crime in this country and encouragement of such acts will be protested.

  88. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Well there is this book called the bible that is the root of all the sentiment so i ask you this ?Honestly, should the bible be banned as hate speech? I am not asking your opinion of the book.I am asking , should it be banned for saying gays must be”PUT TO DEATH”.? If i sing a song quoting this verse word for word, should I be banned? I feel only a person acting in violence should be accountable. I know there are laws about inciting a riot but to me that would have to be as a DIRECT result of the inciter .Like if everyone ran out , right then and killed and had had no prior inclination to kill before.

  89. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 3, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Ras Mike,

    I don’t have respect for KKK culture. I know that in the Deep South, for a long time, it was considered acceptable to burn black people’s homes and lynch them. I don’t respect that, even though I know it’s still a very sincerely held belief held by some Southerners — sadly, some people not from the South as well.

    In much of the United States, for a long time, it was illegal for two people of different races to marry. I don’t respect that culture. I can understand that people who grew up in it may have different attitudes then I do, but I don’t respect the culture. I think it is wrong.

    I understand that homosexuality is disliked by many Jamaicans. I think that’s wrong, and I don’t respect it.

    I feel we should decide whether we like people one at a time, and not on the basis of any one characteristic. We should try to love everyone, even people who hate us. That doesn’t mean we should allow them to sing about murdering us without raising a complaint.

    Ras Mike, there are plenty of gay people I don’t like. If Carol Bruno’s daughter runs People and is a lesbian, she’s one of the gay people I don’t like.

    Joe Lieberman is an example of a Jew I don’t like, and Dick Cheney is an example of a politician I don’t like. But I don’t dislike Joe Lieberman because he’s a Jew, or Dick Cheney because he’s a politician, or Carol Bruno’s daughter because she’s gay.

  90. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 3, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Ras Mike,

    Your point about the bible at 7:17 is fantastic!

    You probably know that in the book of Mormon, being black is considered a sign that God disapproves of you.

    More important, though, you probably know that Jesus said we should love our neighbor.

  91. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 3, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Just a bit more…

    Ras Mike,

    I’m sure you know how many reasons the bible says people should be put to death, but here’s a good passage:

    “Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.”

    (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

    My favorite quote about God is that you know you’ve created God in your image if he hates all the same people you do. Sorry, I don’t know the author.

  92. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    As did Marcus Garvey,I believe Whites who want to should be able to have their own land.So should the Black man, it is called Africa and it has been and is still raped and pillaged by the European .I believe if a people want a culture with no gays that is their right.No to have all the land or best but A land where there is no gay acceptance .I also say let gays have their land as well as those who want to be all inclusive to gays and races .As a Rastafari,I believe in repatriation .It is a core Rastafarian value.Non violence is a core teaching as well and I dont condone the harm to anyone but I reserve the right to”chant down” ,that means speak out against gays ,and to warn of GODS wrath that shall come if I encounter a gay.

  93. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    I still got no answer,Should the bible AND bible songs be Banned ?Should Gays go to every church and demand the apologize for the bible and denounce the anti gay hate?Please ?

  94. Mike Buettner
    October 3, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Probably not a bad idea.

  95. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 3, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Ras Mike,

    I probably won’t say what you want me to say, but I will say this: most modern Biblical scholars believe they can discern different writers voices in the Bible. It’s no longer controversial in Biblical scholarship to recognize that the Bible has many internal contradictions.

    The Bible can be quoted to just about any end, and a scoundrel can quote it like, well, a scoundrel.

    There’s a Jewish folktale that famous Rabbi Hillel was once asked to teach the entire Torah to someone while that person stood on one foot. What did he say? “Don’t do anything to anyone that you wouldn’t want them to do to you.”

    I doubt you want me writing songs about how you should be murdered with an Uzi, with acid thrown in your face, just because you wear your hair in a particular way, or mix cotton and linen in your clothing. You probably wouldn’t like it even if I told you not to take it literally. So I won’t — that’s my Bible practice.

  96. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    For me it is simple ,I ask myself,Does gay lifestyle promote life? Is it clean and healthy? Gay men have an increased risk of colon cancer. As well growing up in the 80’s new wave secne,I know for a fact ,a very large percentage of Gays have been molested as kids, come from broken homes ,and that drugs such as xtc , and all the others played a big part in the hyper-sexual gay club scenes of that era..

  97. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    You realize by fight this, you give it more creditability? Esp. among the the fans.That is a fact

  98. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    This whole thing is just the same old story , some white liberals stomping on the back of the black people who were the ones who fought and died for civil rights in the first place.If it wasnt for blacks, gays would still have way more trouble in the country.And now all you stopping a man from making a living in a genre that already is small in sales.

  99. Mitch Trachtenberg
    October 3, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Ras Mike,

    What happened to the Bible? This is really about colon cancer? You should be devoting some time to educating people about the importance of colonoscopies.

    Seriously, Mike, I’m probably done for the night. Be well.

  100. Anonymister
    October 3, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    “Does gay lifestyle promote life? Is it clean and healthy?”

    Practitioners of the reggae “lifestyle” don’t have much to crow about.
    I wonder what Ras Mike’s car smells like (not to mention his hair bag—ugh).

  101. Mr. Nice
    October 3, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Marcus Garvey the man had a rational and secular approach to Pan-Africanism. He did not see Selassie as a God, he saw him for what he was, a ruler. Garvey’s chief goal was to organize black people for the purpose of regaining dignity. You do not have to believe in a bunch of old white boy anti-gay religious ideas to believe in repatriation.

    The reality is that Jamaican Christianity was done to mask Kumina. This was masking the true religion with that of the oppressor… akin to masking ganja smoke with tobacco.

    In any case, stop trying to act like that is “all Rastas” just because you feel this way.

  102. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    I dont smoke on the road and I dont have locks ,U dipshit!

  103. Ras Mike
    October 3, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Thanks to Mitch for not being a dick to a person with opposing views.I often struggle with how to be non judgemental and to still stand for what one thinks is right.As the saying says if you don’t stand for something ,you will fall for anything.My basic stance is though I think being gay is unnatural ,I think alot of things are wrong in the world and in the end gays as well as everyone else will answer for their ways.It is hard as a parent to accept gays wanting to teach my children that being gay is a normal act and a option they should be able to choose when the time is right.If it is genetic , i see it as a defect , like being a hermaphrodite or having mental illness.I try to have compassion but will never think is is normal.Still I wish no harm to anyone , only that they leave me and my kids alone .Bless

  104. October 3, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Although Kumina was at a certain time done in secret under the guise of Christanity ,when rasta grew into a faith the Rasses fyiah burned kumina .I dont see the connection.I know about Marcus Mosiah Garvey’ beliefs about Selassie ,again i dont see the connection.If you dont think marcus was anti batty bwoy you are wrong.Marcus met with the kkk to talk about repatriation.My point was that Rasta does not stand for the cultural ,racial, gay melting pot we call america.

  105. Buju facts
    October 3, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    The huge crossover hit “flex”,time to have sex,by Mad Corba that was out in the late 80’s was done on the Boom ,bye bye instrumental ( called riddem in ja.) Buju was 15 when he wrote boom bye bye ,in response to a gay pedophile incedent in Ja. at the time.There is a interview on youtube where buju said he would never want someone to take the song literally. Yes Buju dosnt like gays but it is the fans and promoters who request the song to this day as the song is reguarded as a classic in dancehall (slackness ,which is as sub genre on dancehall). Buju also has taken issue with sex clubs like ‘hedonism” which are foreign owned clubs in Jamaica which according to reports attract young boys and girls into prostitution .

  106. Anonymous
    October 3, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    The United States government has enough money to bail out corporations like banks and auto makers. Why shouldn’t we spend a few billion dollars to repatriate the Rastafarians to Africa?

    Ah, Mother Africa, where death and disease is rampant. Where whole nations are annihilated with hand-tools. Where thousands of AIDS-infected men rape little girls in the mistaken belief that they can cure themselves of AIDS that way.

    What self-respecting Rastafarian wouldn’t prefer to live on the morally and medically superior continent of Africa than in the United States of America?

  107. Eric Kirk
    October 3, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    There is a interview on youtube where buju said he would never want someone to take the song literally.

    I just went over to youtube to find it, but couldn’t. Do you have a link?

    I did find this version of the song in which he proclaims that “there is no end to the war between me and faggots.”

    Buju was 15 when he wrote boom bye bye ,in response to a gay pedophile incedent in Ja.

    He says that anyway. A couple of writers I came across the last time around argue the claim is dubious at best, finding no record of such an incident at the time. In any case, the lyrics don’t point to a singular incident.

    Lots more videos here.

    http://cancelbujubanton.wetpaint.com/

  108. October 3, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    The lyrics appear to indicate two men together, not a victimized child.

    (Two man) Hitch up on an rub up on
    An lay down inna bed
    Hug up on another
    Anna feel up leg
    Send fi di matic an
    Di Uzi instead
    Shoot dem no come if we shot dem–
    Don’t want Jackie
    Give dem Paul instead
    Dem don’t want di sweetness
    Between di leg
    Gal bend down backway
    An accept di peg
    An if it really hot
    You know she still naw gon fled
    A some man
    Still don’t want di
    Panty raid
    Pure batty business dem love

    Gotta love those religious panty raids. So much for respect for women while denouncing gay men.

  109. Eric Kirk
    October 3, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Here’s a video in which some jittery promoters “accidentally” cut off his microphone when he seemed to be leading into the song. A gay rights group was protesting outside.

  110. Eric Kirk
    October 3, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    I don’t know what this is supposed to be.

  111. Eric Kirk
    October 3, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Candlelight protest in San Diego.

  112. Mr. Nice
    October 3, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Banton talks about “gaymaica,” buttocracies, his neverending war with the faggot, and the sexual preferences of spongebob and square diapers.

  113. Mr. Nice
    October 3, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Ah you already posted the square diapers video damn you.

  114. October 3, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    Gee, he doesn’t mention the gay Teletubbies?

  115. Shane Brinton
    October 4, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Did anyone else catch the part right after the sponge bob comment when he says that Beavis and Butt-Head are gay too?

    It seems odd for a reggae artist to single out stoner cartoons.

  116. SamK
    October 4, 2009 at 2:00 am

    I want to thank Mr. Nice for posting a link to the video “BUJU BANTON FIRE BURN BATTY.” I hadn’t watched this closely and missed the “gaymaica,” “buttocracies,” “Sponge Bob” and “Beavis and Butt-Head.”

    This video also has the often quoted line “There is no end to the war between me and faggots.”

    Buju Banton is the founder and CEO of a record label known as “Gargamel Music.” He sometimes calls himself “Gargamel.”

    In the Smurfs, Gargamel the sorcerer is the sworn enemy of the Smurfs. Aren’t there some folks who think that the Smurfs are gay?

    Could this be another, very indirect indication of his animus to homosexuals?

  117. SamK
    October 4, 2009 at 2:03 am

    Here’s a great idea. I just thought of this: Protest at the Nocturnum October 11th, dressed as Smurfs!

  118. Violet
    October 4, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    I think Ras Mike is a fraud. Doesn’t ring true.

  119. Anonymister
    October 4, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    “I often struggle with how to be non judgemental…”

    From what Ras Mike has posted, I’d say that he loses that struggle. Often.

  120. sheisntgay
    October 4, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Carol Brunos daughter is far from gay. That is so funny.She is a cougar seeking youngsters. Full on.

  121. Linda Atkins
    October 4, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    I’ll be joining the protest against this show on Oct. 11 and am emailing my objections to peopleproductions. It’s dangerous to let a violence-promoting homophobic performnce go on without registering our outrage.

  122. Anonymous
    October 5, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Vigilante violence, no matter if done by angry whites against blacks or angry straights against gays, is treason against the USA rule of law.

  123. Anonymous
    October 6, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    I’m glad you all agree.

  124. Ras Mike
    October 6, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    I would agree

  125. bunbattybwoy
    October 13, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    FIYA BUN ALL OF UNNU BATTY BWOY. SELASSIE I BUN YOU OUT RASTAFARI KNOW UNNU WICKED AND EVIL BUN YOU FIYA FIYA FIYA BUN!

  126. reasoning
    November 6, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    THE ACLU speaks on LGTB organizations going to local governments to shut Buju down.

    http://www.aclufl.org/news_events/Index.cfm?action=viewRelease&emailAlertID=3786

    Op-Ed: Censorship the wrong way to fight hatred

    Printed in The Miami Herald on Sun, Oct. 18, 2009

    It is disheartening that some of our colleagues in the gay and lesbian equality movement have embraced censorship as a tactic to combat hate speech. In his Oct. 6 Other Views article, Songs of hate, George Byars calls on public officials to ban the Miami concert by Buju Banton and Beenie Man.

    This is terribly short-sighted: Giving government the power to censor messages it thinks are dangerous never advances the cause of equality and freedom.

    In Florida, we don’t need to speculate about the dangers of letting government decide when to ban supposedly inflammatory messages. Only last year, a high school principal banned rainbow stickers and other expressions of support for gay rights because he thought that they caused students to think about sex rather than schoolwork. (He was stopped as a result of an ACLU lawsuit.)

    The ACLU opposes censorship in all its forms. More than a decade ago, we went to the U.S. Supreme Court to defend Luther Campbell and 2 Live Crew against obscenity charges threatened by then-Broward County Sheriff Nick Navarro.

    We are now before that court challenging censorship of library books by the Miami-Dade County School Board.

    Last year we successfully sued two school districts for banning Gay Straight Alliance Clubs that promote tolerance of diversity. We oppose censorship even when those advocating censorship are our friends.

    The Buju Banton song in question is vile and offensive. But despite its hateful message, it is protected speech under the Constitution.

    Its violent imagery isn’t new: From hardcore punk to rap, images of violence have been a central part of pop music. The hardcore punk band MDC (Millions of Dead Cops) has played concerts across the country and Europe for 30 years. One of its standards, Let’s Kill All the Cops, begins: “Let’s kill all the cops and throw ’em in bags / Set it on fire on a pile of rags.”

    Since the early days of rap music, hip-hop stars have used vile and violent lyrics about killing cops, killing women, killing “whitey,” killing each other and, occasionally, killing gay men and lesbians.
    Song lyrics are constitutionally protected free speech unless the words constitute a true threat or incitement to imminent violence.

    Rhetorical hyperbole is not a true threat — even if, as the Supreme Court has ruled, it specifically names the president as its target. The Buju Banton lyrics in question do not name anybody.

    As to the claim that the song lyrics are incitement, Banton has sung his song many times, including during a previous appearance in Miami, with no ensuing violence. There is no basis to make the leap from a hateful and offensive pop song to incitement to riot.

    A song sung before an audience of fans is not a true threat, an incitement to riot or anything else that the Constitution permits the government to censor. It’s just a song that, inexplicably, some people find entertaining.

    Combating hateful speech by suppressing it is a mistaken strategy. Fighting prejudice and hate requires more speech, “not enforced silence,” as Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis observed decades ago.

    The First Amendment permits everyone to demonstrate against Buju Banton and Beenie Man, to condemn their message, to boycott the sponsors and, in hundreds of other ways, to engage in counter speech. But it does not permit anyone to harness the machinery of government to silence their ugly voices.

    HOWARD SIMON, executive director
    ROBERT ROSENWALD, director, LGBT Advocacy Project, American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, Miami

  127. SamK
    November 18, 2009 at 2:17 am

    There was never any chance that the “Reggae Bash 2009,” featuring Buju Banton and Beenie Man would be canceled in Miami.

    Don’t LGBT people have freedom of speech to ask municipal authorities to cancel a performance of music by artists who call for killing LGBT people? Since it is a municipal venue (James L. Knight center) it is partly owned by LGBT people.

    The ACLU is all wet claiming that LGBT were trying to “censor” Buju Banton and Beenie Man in Miami.

    If you are interested in some details about the 2004 armed assault on six gay men in Jamaica, in which one of the assaulted men identifies Buju Banton as his assailant, see Time Magazine http://tinyurl.com/qd7h3 “The Most Homophobic Place on Earth?” 04/12/06 The injured man lost the sight in one of his eyes. Buju Banton was arrested in this assault, but the case never came to trial.

  128. SamK
    November 18, 2009 at 2:21 am

    And by the way, one of the promoters of “Reggae Bash 2009” in Miami claims that they lost $100,000 on the concert.

    http://eqfl.blogspot.com/2009/11/buju-banton-promoter-claims-100000-loss.html (Equality Florida blog)

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