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Coastal Commission coming to Eureka, will (NOT) tour Balloon Track

UPDATE: Security National, through its subsidiary Clean Up Eureka VI (CUE VI) notified the Coastal Commission that they will not allow a tour of the property due to ongoing lawsuits.  The 2-day meeting and other tours will go as scheduled.

Read Randy Gans letter to Coastal Commission

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The California Coastal Commission will hold their annual meeting in Eureka on Wednesday and Thursday, September 15 – 16, at the Wharfinger Building.

After Wednesday’s meeting the CCC will take a field trip to the Balloon Track, site of a contested permit in connection with the Marina Center project. The public is invited to tag along.

From the agenda:

39. COMMISSION FIELD TRIP. The Commission will take a field trip to view three project sites including: (1) the Marina Center project site off of Waterfront Drive in Eureka which is the subject of (a) a possible future LCP amendment to re-designate and rezone the 43-acre site to accommodate a commercial and residential mixed use development and (b) a current appeal of a permit granted for implementation of an interim remedial action plan to control runoff from contaminated areas and the creation of a wetland reserve; (2) property on Humboldt Hill south of Eureka which is the subject of an LCP amendment to allow a road connection between Humboldt Hill Road and Tompkins Hill Road; and (3) the Town of Samoa on the Samoa Peninsula west of Humboldt Bay which is the subject of an LCP amendment to re-designate and rezone the industrial designation of the 173-acre town to a mix of residential, commercial, open space, natural resources and business park uses and extend the urban limit line. Members of the public may follow in their private vehicles. For more information please call the Commission’s North Coast office at (707) 445-7833.

The CCC has long been a stick in the craw of Balloon Track owner Rob Arkley. At a reception for the CCC during their 2007 stop in Eureka, Arkely famously shoved Eureka City Councilman Larry Glass (allegedly, of course) near the buffet table.  Glass said Arkley warned he would “destroy” Glass if he voted “no” on the Marina Center.

More recently, Arkley unsuccessfully sued the CCC claiming the Commission lacked jurisdiction over the Balloon Track.  The judge disagreed and threw the case out of court.

Arkley’s Security National Servicing Corp. is being accused by virtually everyone — including Eureka city staff and the North Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board — of stonewalling the CCC’s hearing of an appeal of the Coastal Development Permit. But Arkley isn’t budging despite failure to get support from the court or the water board.

  1. NumNuts
    September 14, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    The CCC can resolve all the local issues to their likings within an hour then return to the sewer they came from.

  2. Humboldt Politico
    September 14, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    I wonder if RA will have protesters and pickets?

  3. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Thanks, CCC for paying attention to Humboldt County!

  4. Reality Check
    September 14, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Do you think that Rob Arkley is going to allow the CCC to visit his contaminated property? This is going to be a visit that all should look forward to-1.this could be a bridge to compromise, or 2.this could be proof that Arkley and his cronies have more illegalities to hide than anyone knows. I guess we will have to wait and see!

  5. Walt
    September 14, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    THAT’S why RA put up the fancy new sign. . .to help the Coastal Commission find their way. How thoughtful. (It’ll make a great background for photo ops, too!)

  6. Scott
    September 14, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Walt- you nailed it! What perfect timing.

  7. AnonymousX2
    September 14, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Num Nuts thinks the CCC lives in a sewer? Personally I think the property that the CCC will be looking at is much closer to a sewer than thought. When the property is completely tested we will get a chance to see what the real story is. I think Num (numb)refers to his brain and not his nuts. If we didn’t have state watchdog agencies like the CCC our coastal zone would be open season for developers to do what ever they wished and the public would be shut out of much of our coastline. Sorry nummy, wear a cup or hard hat next time.

  8. Bolithio
    September 14, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Oh raw raw CCC. The CCC is way out in space when it comes to many issues that fall within its weird jurisdiction boundaries (who ever drew that map was either heavily influenced by special interest or sucked at mapping). Ya, its great that we have an agency that protects our beaches and coastlines. Forcing their strange, inexperienced mitigation on all projects that occur within their jurisdiction is not so great.

  9. Reality Check
    September 14, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Interesting thought-but how pathetic! If you are not worried about what the CCC will find, why would you care that they are involved and visiting the property? What is your agenda?

  10. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    Arkley has told the CCC that they are not welcome.

  11. Decline to State
    September 14, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Oh my…a pissing match between the CCC and RA! This should prove interesting. Let’s get “who’s really in charge” worked out once and forever.

    Pass the popcorn please.

  12. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    wonder how that bank lawsuit is panning out? did I miss a update?

  13. Reality Check
    September 14, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    “Arkley has told the CCC they are not welcome.”

    OOOOOOOHHHHHH-he’s so big and scary!!! What a small small man-thank God he hired a big Randy Gans to make him look so much more strong and in control. What a hilarious comment!!!The CCC isn’t welcome, just like the working man isn’t welcome in his company-thanks for that one!!

  14. Bolithio
    September 14, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    What is your agenda?

    Well, since you asked, I would have all schools mandate the teachings of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But this isn’t about me…

  15. September 14, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Check out the letter from Randy Gans to the CCC now linked in the above update.

  16. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Bolithio fyi the coastal commission’s boundaries were set by vote of the people of the State of California in 1972 (Proposition 20).

    The first coastal commissioner from Eureka was Ray Mast, an arch-conservative whose comment on losing his bid for re-election, was that “we can hear the celebrating across the bay” in liberal Arcata. It was an anti-incumbent year. Nixon was president.

  17. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Can I say “Boy, Randy is full of shit” on this blog?

  18. Carol Conners
    September 14, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Are the members of the California Coastal Commission even going to be able to attend the meeting, as most, if not all the flights in and out of ACV have been cancelled or delayed? There may not be a quorum.

  19. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    http://www.coastal.ca.gov/whoweare.html

    The people first set up the commission but the legislature made it permanent and drew the boundaries.

  20. Plain Jane
    September 14, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    And the people chose the legislators.

    Gans’ letter and SN’s refusal to allow the CCC to tour the balloon track using such a ridiculous excuse as the lawsuits is just crazy.

  21. mresquan
    September 14, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    “Gans’ letter and SN’s refusal to allow the CCC to tour the balloon track using such a ridiculous excuse as the lawsuits is just crazy.”

    Kind of dumb,I would think….It makes it seem as if they have something to hide.

  22. September 14, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Gans says the property is unchanged from a public tour last October — during which the Coastal Commission was not present.

  23. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    The letter states “Among other issues, we would like to discuss the scope of the CCC’s information request.”

    What is there to discuss? You have had months to state your disagreement.

    “CUE VI believes that the principal relevant documents are mostly in the public record and generally consist of the following…”

    Meaning, we want to talk about the cleanup some more and not any of the more sticker issues like the cloudy title. It seems that you can only claim private property rights if you actually own the property.

  24. When Pigs Fly
    September 14, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    When Randy says,

    “CUE VI believes that the principal relevant documents are mostly in the public record and generally consist of the following…”

    He really means,

    “I’m gonna give you what I WANT to give you. The documents that may incriminate me and the people I work for you’re not gonna get. Ever. Nyah, nyah, nyah!”

  25. Eric Kirk
    September 14, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    t makes it seem as if they have something to hide.

    Indeed.

  26. Bolithio
    September 14, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    You guys are trippin. You seriously dont get why they wouldn’t want the public running around the ‘polluted’ site as its in litigation?! Dont be so reactionary. His letter is actually pretty smart. To me, the real interesting part – will be their response.

  27. Plain Jane
    September 14, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Did you miss the Schmidbauer employees running around on the “polluted site” day after day? Are you saying SN believes the property is so toxic that a few minutes of walking on it could be dangerous? Is the CCC the “public?” This is just more stonewalling and denial of CCC authority. Arkley is the rebel without a clue.

  28. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 14, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    I’m with Carol – Avis and Hertz car rentals from outside Humboldt! Foggy construction site?

    JL

  29. Plain Jane
    September 14, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Maybe Arkley just wants to deny Neely a photo op and front page coverage complete with facts about the balloon track?

  30. Goldie
    September 14, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    I can see Gans’s letter and the refusal to allow the CCC to tour the area as nothing more than a fancy stall.
    Gans wants to talk about the forms SN was asked to submit months ago?
    SN is just setting up another situation they can spin and pretend to be the victims. This is a political moves that will cause people in matching sweat shirts to gather and pretend Fox News is going to over estimate the number of people in the crowd. This will make Glen Beck cry for sure.

  31. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    This letter seems to be just part of the strategy- stonewalling and posturing. It also sounds like something prepared by a different party – i.e. legal staff – definitely not Gans.

  32. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 2:23 am

    Strategy? Game plan? What? Where?

    Given what is said about this issue — that the CCC has the authority to keep this project shut down and that Eureka’s upcoming vote won’t sway the CCC (possibly even serving to annoy it)…. would someone please explain what the strategy is?

    If I am to believe this blog, RA is delaying the inevitable. Is it the prevailing opinion that RA thinks the Eureka vote will change the CCC’s mind? What’s his game plan?

  33. Walt
    September 15, 2010 at 6:37 am

    Gans. Can you even imagine being Minister of Information for RA? You’d have to be AWFULLY hungry and adept at situational ethics. One wonders where they dig up these people. . .

  34. Plain Jane
    September 15, 2010 at 7:09 am

    “If I am to believe this blog, RA is delaying the inevitable. Is it the prevailing opinion that RA thinks the Eureka vote will change the CCC’s mind? What’s his game plan?”

    It is my opinion that Measure N is about putting the Marina Center right in the middle of the city council and supervisor races to help elect Arkleyites and remove Neely from the CCC. The money he is spending on Measure N helps his roster of candidates but they don’t have to claim it as contributions.

  35. Decline to State
    September 15, 2010 at 7:18 am

    Has Schmidbauer Lumber started decking logs on the balloon track yet? They usually have run out of room in their main log yard and have overflowed across the street by this time of the year. They require more logs to run the mill than they have room to store them anymore. If they aren’t storing the excess on the balloon track then the Plan B is generally to deck them at SPI’s dock which is even closer to the bay, paved and sloping down to the shoreline.

  36. Humboldt Politico
    September 15, 2010 at 7:19 am

    RA knows Measure N is legally meaningless. The sole purpose was to influence this November’s election results and skirt any campaign donation limitations or donations to candidates his opposition can point to and say – they are nothing but RA puppets.

  37. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 7:26 am

    Although they don’t know it yet, Eureka is making a choice between more retail and Schmidbauer Lumber. Traffic conflicts and loss of storage area will force Eureka’s last industrial jobs out of town within a few years.

  38. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 15, 2010 at 8:05 am

    CCC can wait for the Schmiddy site go undergo a good sized development project. It’ll be BT clean-up #2.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  39. anonypotumus
    September 15, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Gee, the conspiracy theories here are dizzying. The Coastal Commission has been visiting Humboldt County in the Fall for years. It’s an annual event which we taxpayers get the bill for. When the CC travels they do so as a comp. Eventually we end up paying for it.

    Perhaps Bonnie tried to get a Balloon Track walk over for political purposes and RA saw through it and denied the attempt.(thus the letter from Randy Gans)

    Personally, I think a shopping expedition would be more helpful to the economy than a photo op for Bonnie’s failing campaign. I am sure the thought of actually doing something constructive for the economy isn’t a blip on Bonnie’s radar screen, still she might consider it.

    At any rate, the commission visiting us is an annual event and certainly not triggered by anything relating to the Balloon Track. The commission comes, mingles with our elected officials, has a couple of great dinners and goes home.

    No doubt they consider us a “charming little collection of villages” and have no interest in whether we have enough vitality to actually provide jobs for people to live here.

  40. Ed
    September 15, 2010 at 8:16 am

    When was the last time the CC was denied a visit?

  41. Plain Jane
    September 15, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Anonypotumus, no one has even suggested that the CCC visit is anything out of the ordinary or that it is only to tour the balloon track. All in all a pathetic attempt to smear both the CCC and Neely with your rant.

  42. Insider
    September 15, 2010 at 8:34 am

    You’re trying to make sense where there is none. This kind of knee-jerk reaction is why it took so long for the EIR to be finished, and why it cost so much. The multiple re-writes are why it is so fataly flawed. This is the Arkley style.

  43. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 15, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Randy says, “Look. Here’s all the stuff you can get from the public record and none of the stuff you asked us for. Now will you do it our way and just ignore those pesky laws?” It must be tough to be such a total toady.

  44. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 9:43 am

    remove Neely from the CCC.

    It’s an interesting theory, but it doesn’t help the Marina Center.

    If if you could show me that RA or a related organization or individuals are donating to pertinent elections across California to change the makeup of the CCC, that would be very interesting. It’s too bad we don’t have any journalists left in Humboldt County.

  45. anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 9:54 am

    If Virginia gets elected she will wave her magic pompoms and RA will get everything he wants….not

  46. September 15, 2010 at 10:04 am

    No, but Arkley will have gotten his revenge which is just as important.

  47. Plain Jane
    September 15, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Arkley has demonstrated a pathological zeal for revenge against anyone he feels has crossed him, which includes Neely, Glass and Pierson. The $30,000 legally irrelevant ballot measure and funding of the “Yes on N” campaign are evidence of this pathology. Changing the makeup of the CCC won’t change the laws which they enforce, but knocking Neely off the CCC by helping Bass defeat her as supervisor is obviously a goal he is willing to waste a lot of money on. It seems a bit like a “shock and awe” message to anyone thinking about obstructing his agenda as well.

  48. Derchoadus
    September 15, 2010 at 10:38 am

    I think that Randy and Co. don’t want the CCC to see all the ground ripped up from loaning it to the mill for a log deck. Mmmm…?

  49. Steve
    September 15, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Did Arkley not read the not so fine print of his coastal permit application to the CCC? “I hereby authorize representatives of the California Coastal Commission to conduct site inspections
    on my property. Unless arranged otherwise, these site inspections shall take place between the
    hours of 8:00 A.M. and 5:00 P.M.”

  50. Goldie
    September 15, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Vote the Arkley Bunch out. This is getting so old. They stall, they lie, they spin. Oh, and they steal. What was that little story about the 7 million missing dollars from the sewer fund?

  51. September 15, 2010 at 11:08 am

    When Randy says the condition of the property is unchanged from last October, he ignores the above-mentioned log deck. Here’s the photos.

  52. Eric Kirk
    September 15, 2010 at 11:09 am

    “I hereby authorize representatives of the California Coastal Commission to conduct site inspections
    on my property. Unless arranged otherwise, these site inspections shall take place between the
    hours of 8:00 A.M. and 5:00 P.M.”

    Huh. So what happens now?

  53. Goldie
    September 15, 2010 at 11:56 am

    What happens now? More stall and BS from SN and then they find a way to blame Baykeeper.

  54. Reinventing The Wheel
    September 15, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    The Balloon Tract can still be viewed from the fence. Count me in to be there. The CCC should inspect the disturbance caused by the logs.

    Wake up Eureka!!

    Economic data that actually exists states that Eureka is already saturated in poverty-wage national retailers. Hell, there’s books and documentaries on the subject. Where’s Frank, Lance, Virginia, and Mike’s data?

  55. Not A Native
    September 15, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Arkley/Gans probably decided that “the gubmint ain’t got no right to come onto MY land”, but the letter was writen by lawyers seeking to feel out the CCC while pressing the idea that they will prevail.

    Also note, they’re asking for a meeting with “staff”, not with the Commissioners because its illegal for the Commission to decide in secracy, the way the good ole’ boys get ‘er done.

    But whats that reference to the Federal lawsuit and its being in a “critical” stage? Can someone remind me? I thought the dismissal was appealed in State court.

    Also note the legal posturing to maintain the fiction that the cleanup plan and Marina Center development are completely separate processes. Thats pure BS. If the planned use of the property was something else, like residential or public use, the “cover and cap” plan would be inadequate from the start.

  56. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Only the Soviet Union slung propaganda as liberally as the 16 of you people involved in this little circle jerk. Delusion, thy name is “Humboldt County Progressive”

  57. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 15, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Arkley and/or his representatives have a right to be on the property at the same time any inspections are being done. Usually, to not include the property owner for onsite visits suggests a secrecy of sorts by another entity to finangle information or other material facts when inspecting, especially if a dollar value/appraisal is being drawn up. It denies a property owner the opportunity to know exactly what transpired.

    JL

  58. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    – Conspiracy theories abound here, definitely
    – RA is stalling, is financially strapped at the moment – not sure there is a master
    plan to influence the elections but could be a side benefit for him, possibly
    unintended
    – This letter from Randy Gans was crafted by others and he is a mouthpiece (“one
    wonders where they dig up these people”)
    – It seems that SN will have to accommodate the CCC – not an unusual visit. SN can
    present…and what’s the big deal if there is nothing to hide

  59. the reasonable anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Heraldo said: “No, but Arkley will have gotten his revenge which is just as important.”

    I think you had a little typo there, let me fix it for you:

    “…revenge which is just as impotent.”

    There.

  60. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Arkley is motivated by competition – not negative in and of itself – but combined with emotions of jealousy, insecurity and/or revenge it can become more irrational. As someone mentioned here earlier, his mentality is – or verges on – pathological to sociopathic. However, in business he operates within legal parameters and I wouldn’t underestimate his ability to prevail here.

  61. Bolithio
    September 16, 2010 at 7:40 am

    Logs!!!!! OMG were ALL going to DIE!!!

  62. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 16, 2010 at 7:48 am

    Without logs,

    Hmmm, where would life be today? More sustainable or less?

    JL

  63. Pitchfork
    September 16, 2010 at 7:54 am

    Bolithio(timber beast) it’s not the logs dork! It was the soil disturbance while it was raining hard and run off was going directly it the bay.

  64. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 16, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Anonymous is right about “what is there to hide”. Yet, it works both ways too.

    JL

  65. Harold h. Greene
    September 16, 2010 at 8:22 am

    The Arkley’s don’t give a rat’s butt for due process, like a Baby Huey who has yet to grow out of sucking his thumb when confronted with disagreement about how he should act when in public.

    Freaks of nature.

  66. Bolithio
    September 16, 2010 at 8:44 am

    It was the soil disturbance while it was raining hard and run off was going directly it the bay.

    False.

  67. Bolithio
    September 16, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Its true though: Im part timber, part beast. And a dork. Oh shit, I just rolled a 20!

  68. Anonymous
    September 16, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Harold hit the nail on the head. Arkley’s momma needs to give him a good spanking!

  69. Anon 1
    September 16, 2010 at 9:54 am

    The Commission wasn’t allowed to tour the balloon tract?I’m curious how the people that are running on a platform, of the Marina Center being the main focus of their campaign, feel about this? ..Virginia do you condone this..What do Ron,Peter,Bonnie,and everyone else think about this?I want to know what all of the candidates think about this? It also scares me about the clean-up? Is that property so polluted that Rob doesn’t want the people who are going to help him get the project on the right track? To not be allowed..Is this guy just CRAZY and a person who wants to fight or get his project done…I think some of the commissioners wanted to take a look? What do they think about the process now?

  70. Anonymous
    September 16, 2010 at 10:06 am

    The @#&*! Balloon track is going to make and break politicians for the next ten years and yet we citizens will be dealing with the blight of it for the long term. Is there anyone really looking out for Eureka instead of their political agendas? I don’t think anyone on either side is.

  71. The Monitor
    September 16, 2010 at 10:14 am

    I took a close look last winter at the log decks and the amount of standing water on the BT. It was standing a foot or more deep where trucks and loaders had chewed up the ground. With a high water table there, run off or water seeping into the ground water was sure to happen.

  72. Anon 1
    September 16, 2010 at 10:39 am

    I think Henchie is off base here..Maybe the commissioners didn’t want to be accosted while they did their work…It is not necessary to be there..As a matter of fact, if I were robbie I wouldn’t go, so I wouldn’t say something stupid like he has every other time,he speaks with someone who doesn’t agree with him..

  73. Bolithio
    September 16, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Water is permeating into the ground below the BT regardless, with or without a log deck.

  74. Anon 1
    September 16, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Obviously bolithio maintains ignorance…Again.

  75. Anonymous
    September 16, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    We could have been well into the cleanup by now people. Blaming fricking logs piled on dirt look in the mirror! SN was ready to grade the site and remove contaminated soils, more contaminants would have been discovered and removed long ago but No. You stopped it because you’re idiots. Its always got to be a power play and a money grab for so called “Environmentalists” looking for their next payday. Baykeeper does not clean up anything, lawsuits dont clean up contaminated soils and this stupid blog is not cleaning up the Balloon Track or providing jobs. Brainless Losers yakking about non facts nothing new here.

    Bolithio wtf water permeating into the ground??

  76. Dear Eurekans
    September 16, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Full Characterization = Full Cleanup.

    Don’t believe the lies.

  77. Plain Jane
    September 16, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    “SN was ready to grade the site and remove contaminated soils, more contaminants would have been discovered and removed long ago but No.”

    Graders are now equipped with contaminated soil sniffers? Who knew???

  78. Bolithio
    September 16, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Bolithio wtf water permeating into the ground??

    Main Entry: per·me·ate
    Pronunciation: \ˈpər-mē-ˌāt\
    Function: verb
    Etymology: Latin permeatus, past participle of permeare, from per- through + meare to go, pass; akin to Middle Welsh mynet to go, Czech míjet to pass

    intransitive verb: to diffuse through or penetrate something

    transitive verb
    1: to spread or diffuse through
    2: to pass through the pores or interstices of

    I may be a monster, but Im no idiot.

  79. Anon 1
    September 16, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Randy writing as someone else…STUPID ASS..YEAH lets let a liar have carte blanche to do the right thing..emmmmhmmm..I trust a known liar and proven ego maniac..To look out for Eureka and its citizens..NOT

  80. Drifting Driver
    September 16, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Almost had an accident today watching workers put up the “Future Home of the Marina Center” sign on Broadway today.

  81. Bolithio
    September 16, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Nice, the perfect place to park my DeLorean!!

  82. FoxStudio
    September 16, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Sounds like Arkley and crew are seriously clicking their heels together.

  83. Anonymous
    September 16, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Bolithio, dearest, the point was water permeating soil is not the trouble with the BT. Bunker C is not going anywhere it is especially not water Soluble.

    To PJ: Further soil testing has been mentioned over and over and Over. As the top layers are removed exposing layers underneath, samples would be taken to a certified lab and Tested-unlike the unprofessional whack job BayKeeper is now famous for.

    When a few of you wake up get your heads out of your arses you may realize a local company has been ready to remove contaminated soil, replace with clean fill and create Something much better in the midst of you ingrates. You don’t deserve it but I do.

  84. Amen
    September 16, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Anonymous 8:11; you nailed it. PJ and the others are one trick ponies, and cant bring anything better to the discussion than ranting over and over again about “full characterization = full clean up”

    No shit. That’s how its done, according to all environmental regulations, RWQCB, DTSC, Cal=EPA, etc. Thankfully, this blog represents perhaps (and I’m being generous here) 15% of the voters who will overwhelmingly approve Measure N, and want this project.

  85. Plain Jane
    September 16, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Rob must be paying overtime tonight.

  86. When Pigs Fly
    September 16, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Derchoadus said,

    “I think that Randy and Co. don’t want the CCC to see all the ground ripped up from loaning it to the mill for a log deck. Mmmm…?”

    I think D. nailed it on the head… hard.

    Hopefully Bonnie and Co. will walk the sidewalk on Waterfront Drive. They will see almost as much damage from there.

    Rob and Randy are definitely clicking their heels together and praying the CCC just curls up and goes away…

    Good luck, guys!!!

  87. humboldturtle
    September 16, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    8:11 Oh Gawd yes these ingrates!

  88. humboldturtle
    September 16, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    (Note capital Gawd)

  89. Bolithio
    September 16, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    8:11 dearest, you incorrectly have me pegged as anti-MC. Pay more attention.

    This whole CCC thing is a stupid distraction from the real issues – which are the future policies of our city and county regarding economic development.

  90. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 16, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Randy’s busy telling us how mean we are for not letting him and Rob line their pockets at our expense.
    8:11 you’re pretty obvious…and sad. You still think the only one who has an interest in this is YOU. Surprise! Other folks live here too and have a real stake in what happens. When you have to sit through THREE light cycles to get down Broadway in the muiddle of the afternoon NOW, think what it will be like with 15,000 more cars per day. Waterfront Drive, proposed as the exit road for the Center, would become impassable, especially during fishing season when the real marina and boat ramp are in full use. It’s a dinky little street and will not handle Rany’s proposed load.
    Speaking of loads, there is an ordinance in Eureka regulating the size of campaign signs. The limit is 4′ X 4′. Now what do you think Rob’s new billboard on Broadway is? You don’t think it’s a veiled ad for his $30,000 proposition N? You been smolin’t the wacky weed if you can’t see that one. Another day, another scam, shuffle, and lie. How are we so blessed?

  91. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 16, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    That’s ‘middle’ and ‘smokin’. Some day I’ll learn the art of proof reading (but think of the fun we’ll miss!)

  92. Cookie
    September 17, 2010 at 12:36 am

    A-Nony-Mouse, maybe it be a good time for the city of Eureka to enforce the sign ordinance. Enforcing the sign ordinance would be the first step in really Cleaning Up Eureka.

  93. Cookie
    September 17, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Signs, signs, everywhere there’s signs
    Blockin’ up the scenery, breakin’ my mind
    Do this, don’t do that, can’t you read the sign

  94. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 17, 2010 at 8:15 am

    They’re skirting the edge of the law by not specifically mentioning Measure N (the ‘no measure’ measure). I think the only ones they’re fooling are themselves.

  95. BB
    September 17, 2010 at 8:18 am

    Whether The Balloon track is cleaned up or not this project is wrong for Eureka, we need more retail like we need more rain. Sustainable manufacturing and light industrial jobs is what this area needs . We need to wake up and understand Retail Sales are not the end all to beat all. We need common sense solutions.

  96. Anon 1
    September 17, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    SOOOOOO..If the clean-up is exactly what we all want than just comply..If robbie was going to do all the testing as the soil is removed ETC… Whats the problem,just do whats asked..That’s what robbie was gonna do, right? robbie is a liar!!! plain and simple..Why should we pay to make him money..robbie knew what the deal was when he bought the land..When he bought the land for nothing because the railroad didn’t want to clean it up either..robbie thought as usual he could bully his way through this..NOT..scumb bag of a person..Does things this way..

  97. Anon
    September 17, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    One of the questions the CCC wants answered is what part is tideland. Then if tideland is an issue how did the City of Eureka ever get the “Warfinger
    Bldg built? It is touching the bay and actually was a contaminated site too.
    Did it get cleaned up? It is a capped site.

  98. Dagny
    September 18, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Hey Dingalings-Its private property. Wanna tour against the owner’s wishes? Get a search warrant.

  99. Smokemonster
    September 18, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    I’m just curious why no one bitched about cleanup of the BT the 20 yrs it sat vacant?

  100. Bolithio
    September 18, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Becuase Arkley didn’t own it.

  101. Not A Native
    September 18, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    I call BS Bolithio. Before Arkley bought it, Baykeepers and others sued Union Pacific to clean the property up properly. The water board was doing nothing to get the site cleaned up, allowing the railroad to just manage erosion while sitting on it. And the Eureka good ole’ boys wouldn’t hear of messin’ wit a propty owner that had been a ‘good neighbor’. They didn’t care about the hazard while waiting for one of their own to see some profit in it.

  102. Anonymous
    September 18, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    “Hey Dingalings-Its private property.”

    Um, its public trust land. Not quite as private as you would like to believe.

  103. mresquan
    September 18, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    “Bldg built? It is touching the bay and actually was a contaminated site too.
    Did it get cleaned up? It is a capped site.”

    Kind of makes the decision to deny them the opportunity to see their property seem a little less intelligent.

  104. Dagny
    September 19, 2010 at 7:49 am

    “Um, its public trust land. Not quite as private as you would like to believe.”

    Who holds title?

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