Eureka gets polled

Eureka phones are ringing with callers taking citizenry temperature on the controversial Home Depot-anchored Marina Center development.

Gosh, wonder who’s running that poll?

Eurekans are also questioned about current election cycle races for City Council, Humboldt County supervisor and Assembly.

Did you get the call?

  1. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Good news eh? At least we will get to hear the results of the poll, vs the polls Carol and Greg have done.

  2. Greg
    September 14, 2010 at 7:11 am

    We have posted a few survey questions on our blog, but not for a long time now. The results of those blog polls are always shown instantly, as far as I know.

    We will only know the results of the current telephone poll if the party paying for the poll chooses to share the results. Sounds like a push-poll to me…

  3. Anom
    September 14, 2010 at 7:37 am

    Xandra Manns another Carol Binder

  4. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 7:43 am

    Only a few, questions were reveiled Greg, not the whole thing, as many, many topics have brought up, and you slither your way out of.

  5. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 7:44 am

    I got the call. Part of it was a follow-up to a poll executed several months ago. I was asked one question about the Marina Center and all the local candidates (xcpt Dist. 5 Supe) plus the Assembly race. I was also asked whether endorsements by specific individuals were important. Chris Kerrigan and Frank Jager were two of the individuals.

    The question I was asked about the Marina Center is simply would I like to see it developed. No specifics or questions about what type of development.

  6. Matthew Bass
    September 14, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Did they ask about me?

  7. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 14, 2010 at 8:32 am

    the question of development is to “stump and conduse” voters if you were to ask me – no one isn’t, I know.

    Also, for decades, people have been wanting a clean-up site prior to development.

    Now, how about that as a question for the pullitzeresque poller prize winning poll idea.

    Polls are seen as scams for a scheme via brainwashing.

    Refuse to answer polls, period. Then, the wealthy weasel(s) who is financing this poll won’t get nada for results!

    JL

  8. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 14, 2010 at 8:33 am

    “conduce”, oops.

    JL

  9. Decline to State
    September 14, 2010 at 9:57 am

    Or “confuse” Jeff

  10. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 10:37 am

    I agree with Jeff and Greg. Polling, esp. around election time, are likely to be push-polls, a form of brainwashing. The idea of a real poll is to gather information. The idea of a push-poll is to plant ideas in the minds of the people who are being asked the questions. Many politicians and organizations do it. That’s why I never answer any pollster’s questions. You never know which pollster is a legitimate one and which pollster is one of those manipulative push-pollsters.

  11. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 14, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    That’s right, 10:37 I got the call too, but when I asked who was sponsoring/paying for it, no answer. So I gave him the same. It’s just like someone asking for your bank info when you have no way of knowing who’s calling. When enough of us tell them to go away, their results become meaningless. More meaningless, I should say.
    Just say NO!

  12. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    I was called twice and unlike other polls-yes they let me answer for my husband first then Myself two different days…I didnt feel like I was being pushed for a change.

    The questions were posed “Would you like to see the Balloon Track cleaned up” “Would you like to see Marina Center developed” then the questioner let me ramble on and Oh I did btw! Hope they got every word.

    About candidates endorsing one another I especially didn’t want to vote for anyone endorsed by BayKeeper because they have never ever cleaned anything up they only pass out lawsuits.

    Polls are not meaningless, whether they come out in the pollsters favor or not they hear ya! Feel sorry for the kids taking opinion from the people they called (just a little) but I didnt raise my voice very much.

  13. anonymouse
    September 14, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    i got the call. i thought it was a pretty un-biased survey. they didn’t say anything inflammatory or ask anything that sounded like it was trying to sway my vote, it sounded like they were just trying to get an idea of who might win.

    i agree with 4:56. they let me ramble too, and i feel sorry for the kids who have to make the calls. i bet they get a lot of angry responses.

  14. Anonymous
    September 14, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Push-polling doesn’t mean the pollsters are being pushy. It means they are trying to influence your behavior while they pretend they care about your opinion.

  15. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 15, 2010 at 9:27 am

    “Would you like to see the Balloon Track cleaned up?”
    DUH! You won’t find anyone on any side that won’t answer “YES”. The hidden question is would you settle for a minimal job or do you want a real state-of-the-art cleanup that really protects us and our bay? Didn’t hear that one, did you?

    “Would you like to see the Marina Center developed?” again leads the question. Most of us would like to see the site developed but NOT with Big Box economy wrecking retail when there are so many better uses. How about a light industrial park, something Eureka doesn’t have and desperately needs? How about a job and revenue producing Convention Center? How about light industry that would tie in with Short-Sea-Shipping right down the road at the Schneider Dock?

    We are stuck on one model, MORE retail, when our economy barely supports the retail we have. Unless we find and create more manufacturing, wealth creating businesses, little of our retail, old or new, will survive.

    So when the pollster asks his/her questions, look caefully. Nine times out of ten they’ve framed the question to create the answer. Be aware!

  16. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    By all means 9:27 when they call you, tell them.

    For some reason I am on everyone’s call list for polling, I have been push polled plenty and had to end the conversation prematurely. This was not one of those times.

    When the time comes for more public input after the cleanup has been done to water quality standards I will be sharing my opinion again. I would prefer more light industrial development on this site-other than that Marina Center ROCKS!

  17. Not A Native
    September 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    So whats new? Eureka is being “poled” daily by the local land barons and old guard to keep authority and control over the social and economic climate.

  18. Fred
    September 15, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    I SAY SCREW PIERSONS! THEY SCREWED EVERYBODY ELSE FOR YEARS. NOW THEY’RE GETTING KICKED IN THE BEHIND.

    GO HOME DEPOT!!

  19. Dear Eurekans
    September 15, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    There must be more to this election than a land developer’s pet project. How about that tax measure?
    How about cleaning the place up? Educating people?

    Marina Self-Centered is getting boring. And it’s a stupid way to decide an election.

  20. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 15, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    The Balloon Track is NOT an issue in any of our local campaigns. It is out of the Council’s hands. It never was in the Supervisors’ hands. And Bonnie is only one person on the Coastal Commission and cannot, by herself, influence the outcome for the Baloon Tack. So consider the following.

    Supervisor:
    Bonnie brings experience, knowledge, common sense and a solid record of accomplishments..
    Virginia brings a record of quitting, a lack of knowledge of even the General Plan, and a record of adding nothing to city council deliberations.

    Ward 1:
    Larry has a positive record, spearheading development of the Problem Oriented Policing (POP) program, opposing unrealistic hidden budgets, fighting to maintain adequate police and fire, demanding fiscal responsibility, and working with neighborhoods to help solve their problems.

    Marion has almost no experience with local government. She presents herself as “the Sit-Com Candidate” (the Brady Bunch?) suggesting she doesn’t take the city’s problems seriously. She gets testy when asked questions as happened at the Dems” Central Committee meeting. Her claim to have helped local businesses means she did paid work for them.

    Ward 3:
    Ron has a long history of serving on boards and commissions, giving his time to help Eureka. He has budget experience and a clear understanding of the crisis we face.
    ? Newman chairs the Chamber of Commerce. I am unaware of any service to city committees, commissions, or boards. He moved to Ward 3 in a self-admitted attempt to run for the upcoming council vacancy, no other. Why he is running, no one knows. One can only speculate.
    Xandra is a kind person but a political lightweight who’s biggest concerns seem to be planting trees and unpasturized milk.

    Mayor:
    Peter knows the job, having served as mayor from 2002 to 2006. He works exceptionally well with all kinds of people and can run an orderly efficient council meeting. He brings his own ideas for Eureka’s future and is eager to work with a new council.
    Frank’s biggest claim for the seat is that he’ll bring unity. He’ll do this by being a cheerleader for big box development and budget cuts for police and fire (?).

    It’s not too hard to choose.

  21. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 15, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Sorry I got so wordy. Some self-evident truths can take a long time to explain.

  22. Plain Jane
    September 15, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    You did a thorough job, A-Nony-Mouse.

    How did Pierson’s screw anyone, Fred? They have provided quality products, knowledgeable, helpful staff and competitive prices without trying to monopolize the market. Your attitude seems to be coming from a grievance of a more personal nature than Pierson’s prices.

  23. anonymouse
    September 15, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    9:27: they asked me 2 questions about the marina center: one about developing it in general, and one about the specific big box development.

  24. September 15, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Undoubtedly phrased to get the answer they want, so they can “prove” their points.

  25. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    September 15, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    foxstudio,

    true – no doubt that Ye who paid for thee, gets thee!

    JL

  26. Ihateidiots
    September 15, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    I got the call and I actually enjoyed myself. It was short and sweet and I got to express my own opinion, without feeling like it was a biased survey whatsoever. Many of these comments are incorrect, it shows how ignorant and hypocritical some of these responses are for example. The questions about the Balloon Track were whether or not I wanted it developed in general, and it had a follow up question about whether or not I would like it to be developed into the Marina Center Project which includes (all together) a Home Depot, a light industrial space, a wetland preserve, and more office space. None of the questions that were asked came off manipulative at all. I can see where it could help politicians gain more info about the local community, but its not as if they swayed my opinion at all, if you are one who believes that this survey was intended to sway peoples opinions then you should probably not vote if you are easily manipulated. I would also like to comment on A-nony-mouse’s post, You say this survey is framed and set up to get the answer they want, but everything you said about Bonnie Neely was on her recently aired commercial, so all those so called *truths* you have are probably pulled right out of the media fed to you to sway your opinion in the favor of Bonnie Neely. I would advise doing some “real” research before you praise one candidate and make the other out to be the *wrong* choice for the election.

  27. Anonymous
    September 15, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    I’d like to get this call…maybe I haven’t been home at the right time? I’ve received them in the past when they’ve been very obviously slanted – I was offended to feel that they (whoever “they” are) assumed I wouldn’t notice! They tried to ask *tricky* questions. I just find it insulting that whoever designs some of these polls underestimates the general public. I think people are mostly smarter than to fall for some of this…

  28. Anonymous
    September 16, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Whoohoo 7:25 hit em where it hurts because frankly it looked like A-Nony-Mouse was cut pasting Neely’s talking points, I was offended.

    Please don’t act like Eureka voters are too stupid to figure it out for themselves-like BayKeeper seems to think they need to sue to keep us from ourselves riiight.

    The next city council is going to have about the same balance as the present one-players may change seats, the destination remains the same. We’ll just have to accept it if the voters pass N. Won’t we.

  29. A-Nony-Mouse
    September 18, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Well, guys, I guess knowing Bonnie and the work she’s done makes me guilty of using the same points she uses in her campaign. Maybe it’s because they’re true?
    Now here’s a question..yes or no…do you want a Marina Center with all the bells and whistles and wonderful cheap stuff or do you want nothing to happen (these aren’t the only choices but they’re the only ones presented)? You really can’t see that as a leading question? If not, I’m with P.T. Barnum about one being born every minute.
    By the way, you can vote your socks off on measure N and it won’t make the difference of a spitwad in hell. The Coastal Commission will decide on whether the parcel can be rezoned, NOT the city. It’s a PR stunt, pure and simple. It has no legal ground and is based on what is probably an inadequate and illegal EIR (it’s in court now). If the EIR doesn’t hold up, measure N is null and void as well.
    So have fun. Put up billboards and wave your flags. In the end it just won’t matter. Funny how flaunting state law works, isn’t it, Rob?

  30. Anonymous
    September 18, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    The word you wanted was “flouting.”

    If you don’t believe me, look it up.

    “Flaunting” is what the conservative old guard used to accuse gay people (including me) of doing when we refused to “pass for straight.”

    Now that the vocabulary lesson is finished, let me tell you, A-Nony-Mouse, I agree with your assessment of Measure N and I think you did us all a favor to remind us what a sham it is.

  31. Ihateidiots
    September 21, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Nothing Politicians use in their campaign is “true” they just say what they think the community wants to hear so they will win. Why do you think Bonnie went to Sacramento to do some of her own political surveys? She wanted to get an idea of what California people are in need of so that she can use it in her campaign. Your knowing Bonnie just creates a biased opinion, you can hardly call that truth A-Nony-Mous.

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