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NCRA sues over billboards on 101

The North Coast Railroad Authority filed a lawsuit in August to demand that CBS Outdoor, Inc. remove billboards from NCRA property along the Arcata-Eureka corridor.

The lawsuit alleges that an agreement to allow the billboards was formed in 1960, but that it expired in 2007, after which time CBS Outdoor has refused to remove the billboards.

“From and after January 1, 2007, without the consent or authority and against the will of Plaintiff, Defendant has failed and refused to remove billboards located on Plaintiff’s real property and continues maintenance of said billboards,” reads the Complaint.  “Defendant has offered payment for the billboards, but Plaintiff has refused the tender to avoid establishment of a new rental period.”

Download the complaint.

  1. Walt
    October 20, 2010 at 6:19 am

    The idea’s good, but where is NCRA coming up with the money for the lawyers? Couldn’t that money be better spent on, I don’t know, fixing railroad tracks maybe?

  2. October 20, 2010 at 6:30 am

    With all the billboards currently there, you had to use something that is no longer here?

  3. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 6:43 am

    Why can’t NCRA just inform CBS it’s going to remove the billboards on a certain date, and if CBS doesn’t remove the signs on its own, bye bye baby?

  4. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 7:10 am

    Heraldo…The photo you chose is yet another opportunity to do what you do best: lash out at the Arkley’s.

    Unless I missed something. Does SN own CBS Outdoors? Do Rob and Cherie? Was it affiliated with the Eureka Reporter?

  5. October 20, 2010 at 7:24 am

    How does an old photo become an oppoortunity to lash at the Arkleys? The buildboard was there for everyone to see. Has it only been 4 years?

  6. October 20, 2010 at 7:53 am

    Is this billboard even on NCRA right of way?

  7. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 7:58 am

    “Why can’t NCRA just inform CBS it’s going to remove the billboards on a certain date, and if CBS doesn’t remove the signs on its own, bye bye baby?”

    CBS Outdoor is demanding $40,000 for the value of the structures.

  8. Mitch
    October 20, 2010 at 8:21 am

    The NCRA should take them down, load them on a convoy of flatbed trucks, and deliver them to CBS headquarters in Manhattan at noon. They should bring Michael Moore with a megaphone, and he should demand a signed receipt.

  9. Un-Named
    October 20, 2010 at 8:23 am

    BOOYA! OPEN SEASON ON THE IDIOT CORRIDORE BILLBOARDS!! rattle-canners rejoice!!!

  10. Andrew Bird
    October 20, 2010 at 8:46 am

    There is a pretty simple solution. Read the “Monkey Wrench Gang.”

  11. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    October 20, 2010 at 8:48 am

    Anonymous says:
    October 20, 2010 at 6:43 am
    Why can’t NCRA just inform CBS it’s going to remove the billboards on a certain date, and if CBS doesn’t remove the signs on its own, bye bye baby?

    answer could be that a C.D.P. would be required through the engaging of many processes, including the CA Coastal Commission?

    ….remember the gravel maintenance fiasco of the R/R ROW posted on this blog less than 3 months ago was it Heraldo?

    See how even processes can interfere with any agenda, progressive or not; liberal or not; conservative or not, etc.

    Maybe political exceptions, exemptions and kickbacks just proves the “over-lapping” processes are over-bearing AND restrict other legal options like abatement of nuisances, preventing prescriptive takings of land/property, preventing the abuse of any entities rights, etc.

    Once again, GREED – GREED by the Billboard Company CBS.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  12. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 8:52 am

    Oh James, you really crack me up. Why not use the photo of you and the other Fat Guy from that super-mega hilarious spoof you guys did from the Northern Lights. Silly Faulk.

  13. Plain Jane
    October 20, 2010 at 8:58 am

    I LOVED that book, Andrew! Abbey was funny and brilliant. Carl Hiassen’s book “Sick Puppy” is another really good one. When I see someone throw trash out a window I wish I had the resources and guts of Twilly Spree.

  14. Hayduke
    October 20, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Monkey wrench! Monkey wrench!

  15. er...
    October 20, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    reading these responses…oh how a certain sect of our local society would prefer to pretend the whole Arkley Agenda..er…Eureka Reporter era of politics never happened.

  16. High Finance
    October 20, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    What justification does CBS use in refusing to remove the signs?

    Heaven forbid we hear both sides of the story here.

  17. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Seeing this billboard again does “bring back the memories.” Another Arkley vendetta come and gone.

  18. Big Al
    October 20, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    good question HiFi.
    is there a copy of the original agreement, it may shed some light as well…

  19. er...
    October 20, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    CBS will offer a large settlement, part of which they will insist includes a renewed contract for several more decades. I hope the NCRA really wants them good n’ gone as much as everybody else does.

  20. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    “What justification does CBS use in refusing to remove the signs?”

    They offer none. They just say talk to our lawyer, Bill Barnum.

    Ask him.

  21. High Finance
    October 20, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Do they “offer none” or is the reporting by the Times Standard deficient & Heraldo’s article slanted ?

  22. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    They offer none. Please show us otherwise, unless your reporting is deficient and your opinion slanted.

  23. High Finance
    October 20, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    I am not a reporter & I have no opinion on this issue until I can get both sides.

    It sounds bad for CBS but it doesn’t make sense they would refuse & hire a lawyer. Unless there are other factors here we haven’t heard about.

  24. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    You could have chosen a photo of any of those billboards but you chose the one that would show your negativity toward the Arkleys. It just smacks of your jaded views and your willingness to promote propaganda when it suits you.

  25. the reasonable anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Well I’m glad to see that the NCRA is taking action to get rid of those billboards.

  26. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    I am sure there is a reasonable explanation, as usual.

  27. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    This is the REAL Hayduke here.

    I think CBS Outdoor’s stance has to do with money.

  28. Mr. Nice
    October 20, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    BOOYA! OPEN SEASON ON THE IDIOT CORRIDORE BILLBOARDS!! rattle-canners rejoice!!!

    Was thinking the same, aerosol art time.

  29. FoxStudio
    October 20, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    CBS has no incentive to remove the billboards until they are absolutely forced to. They collect the fees from the advertisers and blow-off the property owner. And it’s worked for many years.

  30. Anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    how silly, the damn signs hurt nothing and no one. Just another no no no progressive line of crap

  31. the reasonable anonymous
    October 20, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    If the billboards are on NCRA land, and NCRA’s agreement with CBS Outdoor ended several years ago, and NCRA notified CBS Outdoor that the billboards had to be removed, what’s to stop NCRA from just taking the signs down? I understand that the sign itself, and the structure the sign is on, is probably property of CBS Outdoor…but at this point, isn’t it abandoned property? I suppose NCRA is just being cautious?

  32. FoxStudio
    October 20, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    I’ve wondered that myself.

  33. Ed
    October 20, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    eyesores, remove them all.

  34. Rumbustious
    October 21, 2010 at 12:23 am

    In the early 1970’s I remember reading about someone who used a chainsaw in the dark of night to topple billboards along rural sections of interstate highways in the western US and Canada. He left a calling card at each one, signed “The Canadian Lumberjack”. As far as I know he was never caught…

  35. Rumbustious
    October 21, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Are the billboards flammable? What better way to call attention to your product than a flaming billboard…

  36. Anonymous
    October 21, 2010 at 6:37 am

    How does an old photo become an oppoortunity to lash at the Arkleys?

    It’s disingenuous to even ask the question. Zealotry is ugly.

  37. Harold h. Greene
    October 21, 2010 at 7:21 am

    using a small community’s quality of life as a venue for inane personal vendettas, pushing for big box stores, mis-using and manipulating the political process while doing so, is ugly.

    by the way, that lumber jack idea. Where did that come from because… I’m just saying.

    We don’t drive any faster than 50 mph through the corridor, we should not be forced to consume billboard advertising while doing that.

  38. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    October 21, 2010 at 8:03 am

    All I know IS,

    that however method is used to get rid or damage or destroy or altar or, harm or, or, or WILL NEED A CDP FOR RECONSTRUCTION.

    So, essentially, when the signs are gone or need to be fixed due to nuisance or structure safety concerns, the signs will essentially be gone. Get it, CBS has nos say really in the matter except to find someone to blame and punish.

    BTW, High Finance is hitting the mark genuinely!!!

    JL

  39. Bolithio
    October 21, 2010 at 8:09 am

    When I see someone throw trash out a window I wish I had the resources and guts of Twilly Spree.

    When I was in school a teacher gave this lecture that started with; anyone who picks up litter should be put in jail. In fact, littering should be mandatory!!

    The idea is simple, if we could actually see the accumulation of garbage, we would actually be compelled to use less, perhaps even rethink our food and product delivery system. Even if someone doesn’t throw their garbage out the window, they still are. Anything and everything goes into the environment.

  40. Plain Jane
    October 21, 2010 at 8:19 am

    That’s the same logic as the anti-war movement pushing a universal draft, Bolithio. I prefer that the garbage we do create is collected and disposed of in a manner that does the least amount of environmental damage, people who support a war fight it, and billboards be removed from highways.

  41. Anonymous
    October 21, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Interesting that Edward Abbey is discussed here. In an interview in Tucson, he said he felt it was OK to litter the highway, because the highway itself is a much greater eyesore than a few empty cans (paraphrased). Can the same be said of billboards along a road crowded with blinking traffic signs, plenty of yellow paint, and is ultimately a barrier to tidal wetlands?

  42. Harold h. Greene
    October 21, 2010 at 8:58 am

    I prefer a fairy. But since we don’t have one, we drive petroleum fueled cars on roads that are, yes, unnatural barriers to natural tidal wetlands.

    All things considered, I don’t mind seeing egrets and herons hunting salamanders while driving the corridor.

    and the road is not as crowded without those damned billboards.

  43. Plain Jane
    October 21, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Not to mention the fact that they are deliberately designed to be distracting to drivers, 8:45.

  44. High Finance
    October 21, 2010 at 9:27 am

    They are not my favorite thing to see either. But they do help local businesses and isn’t that a good thing?

  45. Anonymous
    October 21, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Do they help local business more than our beautiful views? I think not.

    This is the case where a handful of businesses may get some small boost to the detriment of all others that depend on our scenic values to attract customers.

    The real insult to injury is that this is being done on our public property.

  46. Steve
    October 21, 2010 at 9:46 am

    After the Canadian Lumberjack takes down the signs on the corridor, send him/her over to the Henchman’s to tear down his illegal billboard.

  47. Bolithio
    October 21, 2010 at 10:29 am

    I prefer that the garbage we do create is collected and disposed of in a manner that does the least amount of environmental damage

    Of course. I would argue that the majority of ‘environmental damage’ occurs in the creation of garbage, not its disposal. Once most plastics are created, they are destined to remain on earth – for ever, regardless of where they end up after use.

  48. tra
    October 21, 2010 at 10:52 am

    So…free landfill at Bolithio’s house?

  49. Bolithio
    October 21, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    No, but i’m renting space for billboards!

  50. Anonymous
    October 21, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    It amuses me that people screaming along at 50mph in hunks of steel that burn toxic hydrocarbon fuel and create noise heard a mile away are enraged that a few rectangles of wood and steel are ruining their “beautiful views”. But then again, the deck chairs on the Titanic did ruin the views of the icebergs.

  51. the token BUTT BUTT BUTT!!!!
    October 21, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    ANONYMOUS 229 U R SO RITE. I WANT PROJECT MOONBOARD NOW I WILL PAY $2.7MIL CASH GIVE THE MOON TO ME FO R A MONTH AND ALSO I SHOUD BE ALLOWED TO PUT MAGNETS ON YOUR CAR IF YOU DRIVE BY AND THEY STICK ITS YOUR FAULT THATS LIFE A JUNGLE AMERICA IS LIFE I CAN ADVERTISE MY FLASHLIGHT IN YOUR LIVING ROOM FROM ACROSS THE STREET YOU HIPPY GO EAT A TREE!!

  52. Not A Native
    October 21, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    FWIW, the Journal covered this in July, when the NCRA considered filing a lawsuit. It reported there are 9 billboards on NCRA property.

  53. Anonymous
    October 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    2:29 it amuses me how smug you are that some of us have to work, and part of our work is driving.

  54. Anonymous
    October 21, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    449 – I work and drive too – but I don’t get my shorts in a bunch over 9 billboards. Looking at your sorry ass driving next to me is much more of an affront to my driving experience – not to mention the “Mill Yard”, storage units, KOA, Harper Motors, and the rest of the clutter. It may make you feel good to get rid of a few billboards, but those billboards don’t make any noise and they don’t spew out pounds of carbon. This really is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. And, you’re driving the pot.

  55. Harold h. Greene
    October 21, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    no bill boards are better than some bill boards.

  56. skippy
    October 21, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Please get RID of the billboards.

    Hypocritically speaking of course, please bring BACK the old wood stick sculptures folks used to make and place in the marsh instead. The sculpture of the ‘Rockin’ Guitar Man’ (by artist Jack Sewell?) made of driftwood is one that you oldtimers will remember. It was a complete classic that said, “Welcome to Humboldt”.

  57. Funnygirl
    October 21, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Sometime during the late 1970’s a bunch of hooligans took chain saws to all the billboards along that stretch & there had to be a bunch of people involved cuz they all went down in one night. Pretty funny. Some of the sign supports are now made out of steel. Ever wonder why?

  58. Anonymous
    October 21, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    6:04, you like to assume a lot. And why pick on all those local businesses while you’re at it? I personally couldn’t care less about the few billboards.

    You won’t know my sorry ass and I won’t know yours, thank goodness. Sounds like you spew carbon as well though.

  59. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    October 22, 2010 at 8:01 am

    Steve talks a big talk with such a little mind. So, Steve, since you are the newest member of the local psychotic cyber blog stalkers, are you ready to lead the charge? Afterall, your confidence suggests you have some legal claim, recourse or personal vendetta. So, you got game?

    After the Lumberjack is done with his flapjack breakfast, we’ll come on over to Steve’s playpen and party like its 1999 all-over-again.

    I wuv accusations by the manipulative AND the political insider people, it makes me understand my individual power and rights even more, Thanks Steve!

    JL

  60. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    October 22, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Bolithio makes a great case about,

    Outta sight, Outta mind with respect to trash and garbage………kinda like war and the troops over on foreign soils – outta sight, outta mind! Not even media can give honest coverages.

    JL

  61. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    October 22, 2010 at 8:13 am

    6:04,

    Um, The Mill Yard is moving over off of HWY 299 next to Renner. The owners have been tryi ng for years to move away from that cluster-frack of BUSINESS PARK. They finally found land a few years back and have been working toward making their business more geared toward the community and its customer base, concerns mitigated too. So, while I agree that “other drivers” is much worse a view than the billboards, why knock “living and breathing” structures or facilities that harbor business.

    A billboard is not living or breathing, nor does it provide for such on-site (I agree).

    I see a situation of over-lapping timelines – one of laws and regulations with that of a express contract that is no longer in effect.

    Prescriptive Rights taking by CBS???

    JL

  62. Mike Buettner
    October 22, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    ““Most people will tell you that the billboard industry is extremely tenacious,” NCRA Executive Director Mitch Stogner said Monday. “They fight like a junkyard dog.” The leases for many of the billboards are long-expired, but the billboard companies keep sending checks, and cashing them implicitly extends the lease. Such was the case with the NCRA for years until the mid-1990s, when they stopped cashing the checks — only to start up again a few years later when the agency was strapped for cash. Though still struggling financially, the NCRA stopped cashing the checks again in 2006″”

    http://www.northcoastjournal.com/news/2010/07/22/billboard-brawl/

  63. anonymous
    October 28, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    And which city council wannabe is most affected by removal of the billboards…Clue #1: Not Larry Glass

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