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Time to get ramped-up

[Guest post by George Clark.]

Our communities are experiencing an economic crisis rivaling the Great Depression. These are the times that demand bold action that rekindles our historic ideals of the common good.

Instead, candidate Virginia Bass — gathered with like-minded candidates Mike Newman, Marian Brady, Lance Madsen and Frank Jager — exult the qualities of “quiet determination…reasoned calm and positive attitudes that don’t get ramped-up on issues but calmly review them” (8-12-10 Times Standard).

This is the placid language of inaction familiar to Jager and Madsen who, as councilmembers decades ago, failed to ensure adequate installment funds to maintain our waste water system (most of the dramatic increases in our water/sewer bills are for deferred sewer system updates). Soothing voters with “quiet and calm” conceals candidate’s acquiescence to developments that dig deep into our pockets for infrastructure subsidies that enrich the few.

Communities worldwide share our dilemma — land barons, speculators, developers, brokers, Realtors, builders, insurance and property management industries coalesce to dominate the political agenda, and their unbridled greed has forced regulators to impose building moratoriums on local cities. Will Eureka be next?

Virginia Bass recently signed Eureka’s challenge against the Ridgewood Village subdivision in Cutten. However, during the June 18, 2009 Humboldt County Association of Governments meeting, Bass accused critics of Ridgewood Village of being NIMBY’S that, “secured their piece of paradise and want to keep others out.”

Which is it Virginia? Voters need to know if Bass still claims that more sprawl, or another big box mall, will miraculously begin paying for their own impacts.

According to the California Highway Patrol, Eureka already has record pedestrian, cyclist and motorist accident rates, and the California Water Board is issuing fines for Eureka’s chronic sewer problems. All large projects should prove they contribute more to our community than they extract in public subsidies. This isn’t rocket science! Building housing for extremely low income families and seniors 10 miles from jobs, services and transportation, while numerous lots and buildings remain vacant downtown, is poor planning. For 43 million impoverished Americans, affordable and buyable housing downtown provides the only opportunity to build capital. It’s where the term “Smart Growth” originated.

For generations, the development community’s battle to maintain public subsidies has been aided by “quiet” candidates and a media blackout. General Plan Workshops, Elements, Boards, Hearings, Commissions, and Committees, are dominated by development community lobbyists who tag-team officials with relentless demands and influence.

For example, a group called “Find Our Lots” (not to be confused with: “Humboldt Economic Land Plan”, “Humboldt Citizen’s for  Property Rights”, “Citizen’s For A Better Eureka”, “Humboldt Sunshine”, “Eureka Coalition For Jobs,” ad nauseum), headed by Arkley lobbyist Kay Backer, had formed to, “…personally visit 4,000 lots in Humboldt County.” Unreported was Backer’s 70-page PowerPoint that dominated the March 23, 2010, Housing Element “Public Workshop” culminating with a heroic protest by Jan Turner, an affordable housing advocate. Turner demanded that her name be removed from the PowerPoint, described later as a developer’s sham.

The development community’s fear of losing public subsidies has turned them, and their candidates, into No-Can-Do Nancy’s who cry “divisive” when sustainable development alternatives are proposed. They whimper “negative” when anyone describes the depth of our community’s crisis, and they become ramped-up over imaginary “No-Growth” groups, yet, nothing stopped developers from building Eureka, Fortuna, Ferndale, Rio Del, Orick and Mckinleyville, beyond infrastructure capacity. These are cities where voters are “bright-sided” by candidate’s sugarcoating the status-quo of planning by the highest bidders.

One high-bidder paid $30,000 to put Measure N on Eureka’s November ballot threatening to eliminate the public-use zoning of the Balloon Tract, thus, enabling Cherie Arkley to double her investment by potentially selling to Wal-Mart. Speculators double their money, while the community subsidizes the food stamps, medi-cal and housing-aid needed to support poverty-wage jobs, plus the full-costs of increased traffic, inadequate public transportation, shuttered schools, underfunded public safety budgets, and a decayed infrastructure.

Voters have another opportunity to remove developer’s hands from our pocketbooks by electing candidates willing to stop the hemorrhage of public subsidies to budget-busting projects, to support sustainable models of growth; reach out to cities like Truckee that are already implementing successful alternatives; demonstrate interest and knowledge in walkable neighborhoods, in-fill development, Inclusionary Zoning, manufacturing incubators, and other tools that accommodate the long term goals for higher wage jobs in livable, affordable, and sustainable communities proven to attract tourists, residents and capital investment.

If you think your vote doesn’t count, think again. This November 2nd, vote for the candidates who speak the language of change.

  1. Walt
    October 28, 2010 at 5:55 am

    “Voters have another opportunity to remove developer’s hands from our pocketbooks. . .” The problem is they’re not listening, George: they’re watching Fox News, and believing. The corporatocracy is strengthening its grip, here and everywhere. Even the French can’t stop them.

  2. fence
    October 28, 2010 at 8:17 am

    George your solution to vote is a good one. But which no growth candidate do you suggest. By the way the cost of infrastructure repair spread over more units means it costs less for everyone. Try math its real simple. Even a 5th grader can do it.

  3. October 28, 2010 at 8:17 am

    Thank you, George. That is an excellent letter!

  4. Anonymous
    October 28, 2010 at 8:31 am

    George, why aren’t you running for that office again? Is it because the greater Eureka society doesn’t agree with your opinion? Perhaps, it’s not time for your ideology to come to the forefront of building this community. Perhaps, this is what the majority of Eureka people want? Perhaps you can create a Fox News propaganda machine to your liking that creates a majority of it’s own and Eureka and Humboldt County will become the community of your choosing. But, the voters will decide, that is true. If money is the dominant force that makes this decision, your side needs to find out how to get your hands on some. Until, then,It’s just words, George, it’s just words. It’s Capitalism, Baby! Raw, unadulterated, capitalism. Ain’t America great!

    God help us, November 3rd can’t come too soon.

  5. fence
    October 28, 2010 at 8:34 am

    IZ was approved in the housing element I think. The supes just have to get it into the code, if they don’t do it by January a change in the board could mean that it never gets into the code. Unfortunately the conditionally accepted housing element wasn’t conditioned on IZ it was conditioned on the Rezone program and rezoning 113.5 acres by January 1, 2011. Which simply means if the supes don’t rezone those parcels, the Housing Element will be out of compliance again. And Humboldt County will loose State funding.

  6. Greg Conners
    October 28, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Excellent, George. Passion is a good thing in politics.

    Two unrelated factors came together about forty years ago to bring change to he makeup of the Eureka council. In hindsight we can see how fast the economy and the culture changed with job outsourcing and the corresponding decline of local timber companies. The other change came about because of well-intentioned election reform; many people with assets will no longer get involved because they don’t want their personal finances to become public information. Eureka had been shaped by big industry and by a culture used to working with big industry. Councils were satisfied, self-satisfied, eager to please and unaware of possible dangers. I generalize, but the word I am thinking of is “complacent”. We do not need more complacency. The same ol’ people don’t cut it.

    If people in Eureka want to try a different direction, the town needs Kuhnel, Glass and LaVallee to join Linda Atkins.

  7. Heidi
    October 28, 2010 at 8:51 am

    “If money is the dominant force that makes this decision, your side needs to find out how to get your hands on some.”

    That is truly a heartbreaking statement. Eurekans, voting is free. It is not Capitalism it is Democracy.

    If the flavor of anonymous 8:31’s post gives you a sick feeling in the pit of your stomach, call your friends, do something about it.

    Glass and Kuhnel for the people

  8. anon
    October 28, 2010 at 8:53 am

    yes, keep putting in democrats and liberals, it is working great in the county.

  9. StraightUp
    October 28, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Speaking of ramping up, last Monday’s T-S carried a story about a survey about access and other issues for people with disabilities was sent to all the candidates for Eureka City Council, Eureka Mayor and both supervisorial districts by the Tri-County Independent Living office. It announced that the results of the survey could be obtained by calling the TriCounty office at 445 8404, or from their Facebook page. Frank Jager did not return his survey and Marshall and Xandra apparently could not be contacted timely. Everyone else responded but the one that takes the cake is Mike Newman, who only answered half the questions!! Who in their right mind would take a questionnaire from a community group (people who VOTE) and submit it half-done?. Truly an bizarre response from someone who aspires to serve on City Council. Does he intend to skip the hard questions on City Council too?. This guy is not ready for prime time.

  10. StraightUp
    October 28, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Sorry; Should read “THAT was sent to all the candidates” etc

  11. A-Nony-Mouse
    October 28, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Actually, Anon, it is. Things take time. We can’t turn the iceberg of state overnight with an outboard motor. Time and commitment,.
    Fence, there are no ‘no growth’ candidates. There are candidates who understand that the only real growth comes with industry and tourism, new money for our economy.Those candidates are Larry Glass, Ron Kuhnel, Peter LaVallee, and Bonnie Neely.
    They understand that piling more retail onto an already depressed retail market does NOTHING except make every business weaker. The ‘Brady Bunch’, that sit-com characature of real candidates, sees only what the big money developer crowd wants them to see. They don’t understand the tested and proven fact that big box stores mean FEWER net jobs, lower wages, and MORE need for public services like food stamps, welfare, and section 8 housing. They can’t grasp that big corporations take most of their money OUT of town to corporate HQ. That means less money in our local economy. They hire fewer people per square foot of business, fewer people per dollar of sales, and fewer people in the support trades. Yet the ‘Bunch’ clings to this outmoded model as the shining savior of our community. We don’t need four more years of this kind of short-sighted governance. We need vision and action. Elect Larry, Ron, Peter, and Bonnie and lets get this town started again.

  12. Un-Named
    October 28, 2010 at 9:50 am

    “Bass accused critics of Ridgewood Village of being NIMBY’S that, “secured their piece of paradise and want to keep others out.””

    …HYPOCRITAL DOUBLETALK!!! She’s a NIMBY in that she doesn’t want a natural forested ecosystem of open space in her backyard. Go door to door in the bay area asking residents if they’d like a big swatch of protected forest near them. Do you think people would actually say no to that? Why the hell is she supporting taking that away from people who are fortunate enough to have it?

    I also suppose she’s reserved a second floor apartment for somebody in her family? NOT! Damn straight keep that shit out of my backyard as well. I want to live here as long as possible without having to watch sprawl factories pollute all things Humboldt.

  13. Un-Named
    October 28, 2010 at 9:52 am

    …her and her ilk are open space NIMBY’s.

  14. anonymous
    October 28, 2010 at 10:31 am

    Every council bows to pressure from special interest groups and campaign contributors its a fact. What we need is ranked voting and a mayor chosen by the council ala Arcata!

    No idea how this election will turn out or how many voters will show up if it rains but we get what we get and we can pray they don’t screw it up anymore than the last bunch!

    Someday we will evolve thats the flip side-we will learn from our mistakes and work together to find solutions. I’d like to think that means we wouldn’t make it so damn difficult to run for public office because the Really smart ones wouldn’t even go there!

  15. Dont be fooled again
    October 28, 2010 at 10:32 am

    True that ‘the Brady Bunch’ is a very well organized attempt from the right to seize control of all aspects of Humboldt County Government. But let us not deceive ourselves. It is equally true, as demonstrated by an overwhelming amount of evidence in the public record, that candidates on the left are every bit as manipulative and deceitful as their opponents. The only difference is the interests they represent. Truth be told, the choices on this ballot are extremely poor, and until we get to a place in our society where we recognize the simple fact that there is no “us” or “them” and that the right/left schism has been intentionally engineered as a distraction to cloud the real issue of corporate greed we will be left with candidates who represent the few rather real visionary leaders who represent the many. In the mean time, Vanilla or Chocolate, we all eat cake.

  16. fence
    October 28, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Un-named, when did Bass make that statement do you have a site. I’ve always heard her talk against Ridgewood Village because she is mayor of the biggest NIMBY.
    A-Nony-Mouse, thanks for the info of the slate that is for reasonable growth.

  17. Dogenpony
    October 28, 2010 at 10:35 am

    If voters cannot see that Marian Brady (and her bunch) is nothing more than an Arkley pawn, then there is no hope for this place. The woman is proposed to be a creative professional yet she does not possess a creative bone in her body. I know, I’ve worked with her. This is not a smear. These are facts. She is not a critical thinker and she lacks the ability to come up with sound ideas of her own. She was nothing more than a squeaky wheel when I had the misfortune of dealing with her in her profession. Please vote for someone with some integrity and a backbone. Anyone but Brady!

    October 28, 2010 at 10:58 am


    more voters will consider “write-ins”, the non-monied and interests, or other alternate choices


    the sophisticated are not sophisticated enough it appears. Any dummy coulda done less damage to this country, state and county than what voters have been by majority electing as its representatives and not the representatives of ALL (Titles are really not guaranteed meanings of service).

    Back into the into the rain, perfect for this elections season – when it rains, it pours; and, by judging recent weather within the State of California, rain seems to be in abundance!

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  19. Un-Named
    October 28, 2010 at 11:36 am

    re: “poorly written”…

    Being as how I don’t see the federal government’s rule as reality dominant to common sense, let alone nature, I don’t care what their law says about the world that preceded it in this matter. Marijuana isn’t illegal, except that they say so and will physically force our decisions of it. We live on a ball of mud floating in space among everything it has to offer, and excersize our own free will as we allow others theirs during our limited stay. The government forces its will upon us, and has successfully stymied our instincts and understandings of what it is to be human.

    What’s “poorly written” about the law is everything contrary to this ideal, which can be the dominant practice without having to constantly demand it, while being punished regarding it, in a never ending series of “baby steps” toward some kind of consensus between profiteers, morality police and the everyday person who just wants hassle-free weed. This is the discussion I see happening among my own peers, but it’s not present at all in “the media”…not even from the proprietors of the proposition. Dennis Peron, a celebrated figure in the marijuana world, was taken out of the spotlight the minute he started to present this argument.

    I cannot in good conscience sign a piece of paper agreeing that people under 21 years of age should be punished for smoking or growing or even selling marijuana. I refuse to say people should be patrolled regarding their personal agriculture, beyond common sense concerns for the environment and such. Everything regarding proposition 19 can happen without a vote, just as marijuana’s illicit classification was forced upon us. It’s being used as a form of social manipulation, gearing further legitimacy to the federal government’s existing protocol of personal freedoms. This idea that boons are illegal first and must always be toiled to turnaround is bogus. Our collective conscience has been imbibed with non-existent morality police. We’re being made to believe if somebody speaks up against a “baby step”, they might as well be supporting the “opposition”. No more baby steps at this point in the future’s history…cut to the chase. The records proove this argument has been made, and ignored, since the beginning. The government is not our parents, their law is not sacred.

    I firmly believe the polls are a complete lie, and that the overwhelming majority of people in california and the rest of the US support proposition 19 for all the right reasons.

  20. Un-Named
    October 28, 2010 at 11:47 am

    jesus fuggin crisco…I thought I was writing in the pot thread…I’m a browser clutz.

  21. Reinventing The Wheel
    October 28, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Anyone remembering Vietnam recalls the daily front-page coverage and constant radio and TV reports until it became the unavoidable topic at work, while queuing at the bank or the grocery store…until it finally ended.

    Today’s U.S. occupations barely merit mention in local media; the Earth’s sixth largest extinction event must be “too negative” to cover; 250,000 American families have been foreclosed each month since January, 2009, do you recall a local front page story that confers any sense of the suffering taking place?

    Change always begins with words, it’s the least citizens can do…write, speak, oppose, endorse, involve… Unfortunately, today’s media self-censorship no longer generates the incentive and motivation when it used to investigate and report in the public-interest.

    Thus, only half the eligible voters register in the U.S. Of those registered to vote, less than half typically turnout.

    Voters had to wait 35 years for a reporter to officially reveal the local political dominance by the development community, recently reported by John Osborn in the NCJ, a story oddly missed every two years. No wonder voters keep voting for the same developer-backed candidates…while expecting a better result! Unless our community media connects the dots with equal commitment to reporting the Dow Jones…little will change.

    Even in this blog we can read the results of a chronically uninformed public…the clarion call for “raw, unadulterated capitalism” A.K.A. the New Gilded Age; unwittingly endorsed by today’s deepest-pocket candidates who are unashamed to front for the corporate agenda, regardless of the public costs and impacts to our communities.

    Over half this world’s largest economies are private corporations, accountable to no one. We haven’t evolved very far from the divine rights of royalty.

    On the brighter side, look at the fun we can have, compliments of Jim Hightower:


    Separation of Corporation and State

    We, the People NOT We, the Corporations

    It’s a Democracy, Not an Auction

    Keep Your Government Hands Off My Corporate Overlords!

    If It Weren’t for CNN, I’d Have No Idea What Was Happening on Twitter

    If You Think Money Is Speech, Try Paying Your Visa Bill With an Essay

  22. Anonymous
    October 28, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    George Clark calls out Jager and Madsen for failure to ensure adequate installment funds to maintain our wastewater system, yet the candidates that he supports have both voted against increases to the water and wastewater rates. Even now Larry Glass is working to reduce and defer the water rates so that there will not be adequate funds in the future.

    Ron Kuhnel has spoken openly at council meeting opposing increasing water rates.

    I don’t get it George…

  23. A-Nony-Mouse
    October 28, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    You’re welcome, Fence. The difference between creating an industrial park with a new business incubator and creating only retail is huge. Arcata did the former. They DOUBLE Eureka in living wage industrial jobs and have at least 16 people waiting in line for the commercial kitchen facilities at their incubator. The cartoon ‘Brady Bunch’ is set on only the retail, fattening the (already rich) pockets of a few developers while saddling us with major traffic jams and closing local businesses. One need only look at the history of the half-empty Bayshore Mall to see where this approach leads. Brady, Newman, and Bass are 30 years behind the times, prefering to be Arkley syncophants for whatever unknowable rewards that might bring.
    It’s time for some real growth and development. It’s time to support light industrial growth, short sea shipping to make it possible, and a city that works for real living wage jobs.
    It’s time to vote for Larry, Ron, Peter, and Bonnie.

  24. A-Nony-Mouse
    October 28, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    One more campaign note, since this is a related post.

    Larry Glass is a 40 year business owner in Old Town. Ron Kuhnel is a former Chief Information Officer for California under Republican DUKEMAGEN (pardon my spelling) among other positions he’s held. Peter LaVallee works with troubled youth, helping them find their way in life. Hardly the far-left wing fringe that idiots like HiFi would have us believe them to be. They are salt-of-the-earth everyday people who have the best interests of their city at heart. They are not supporting, nor are they supported by, the big development community that wants to turn Eureka into something foreign. They are just good people who are sincerely dedicated to making Eureka work.

    So when you hear the cartoon sit-com candidates trying to paint them as wild-eyed radicals, see it for the b*llsh*t it is. They are truly the moderate middle-of-the-road candidates we all seek. Conversely, the cartoon ‘bunch’ are much more closely tied to one group (MONEY) and one approach that holds far fewer possibities for our city.
    Give this town a real future. Vote for Glass, Kuhnel, LaVallee, and Neely. It’s the reasonable thing to do!!!

  25. High Finance
    October 28, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Again, Ron Kuhnel said that “corporate personhood threatens the planet. The others are mouth similiar anti corporate sentiments.

    That is not something a “moderate salt of the earth, everyday person” thinks or says. Perhaps you are seeing these three people through the prism of your own biases Mouse?

    This town has no positive future if we don’t get a city council that is gung ho for jobs, corporate and otherwise.

  26. High Finance
    October 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    I meant to say … The others all mouthed similiar anti-corporate sentiments.

  27. Dont be fooled again
    October 28, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    HF I agree with Ron; Corporate personhood does threaten the planet and I assure you that is much more centerist position than you suppose.

  28. tra
    October 28, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Perhaps you’re a bit out of touch with what moderate, salt of the earth, everyday people think about corporate personhood these days. Given what these corporate “persons” are up to these days — global warming denialism, war profiteering, financial speculation leading to financial crises, massive foreign funding of U.S. elections, etc. — it’s not unreasonable to see unfettered corporate power as a planetary-level threat.

  29. tra
    October 28, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Perhaps HiFi might benefit from viewing the 1954 film “Salt of the Earth”


  30. High Finance
    October 28, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Tra, I guess Nov 2nd will tell us who is more out of touch locally & nationally, me or you & Mouse.

  31. Reinventing The Wheel
    October 28, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    To Anonymous 2:02:

    Go ahead, re-elect Jager and Madsen who took developer’s money while failing to ensure adequate infrastructure, or affordable housing, at the time Eureka was growing beyond capacity. Even a Boy Scout is trained to understand self-sufficiency, a fundamental requirement for economically sustainable communities.

    The campaign money and the failed development model hasn’t changed, what makes you think these candidates have?

    Pretty funny.

    Meanwhile, do we charge seniors, the poor, and the disabled the same 80%-100% utility increase to subsidize the (continuing) grotesque profiteering from big box saturation and the homes that these new employees, and the elderly, disabled and the poor can’t afford to own?

    Damn straight we need to say NO!

    $1,000 per home is hardly a “fair share” contribution for an additional waste water hookup when Eureka needs $100 million in updates, not counting the $40 million Martin Slough Interceptor, or the Elk river WWTP expansion.

    Fern Drive in Eureka, epitomizes the kind of irresponsible growth that literally kills people. It has no sidewalks, but just received its fourth recent subdivision and the ONLY improvement is a tiny sign warning cyclists and pedestrians to avoid using Fern Drive.

    Increasing developer’s profits by making our communities unsafe to live, walk, cycle, or drive, decreases home values with even more homes that will dump sewage in the bay during crab season.

    Our industrial tax base is gone, we have no more use for a failed legacy of irresponsible growth culminating in a pathetic 20% housing affordability rate, decayed infrastructure, and the recent family exodus and school closures. Big box candidates were never asked about the impacts of more poverty wage jobs: increasing poverty, drug abuse, crime, disease and the costs to public services.

    Let’s see how long the “No-Alternative” crowd continues whining for irresponsible, unsustainable growth if they’re held responsible for the FULL-SHARE of their impacts, instead of sending the bill for this self-serving gravy train to the poorest among us.

  32. tra
    October 28, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    I don’t doubt that Republicans will make gains nationally, but they would almost have to, after the drubbing they took two years ago. From what I have read, it looks like the projected Republican gains are not due to any increase in the number of Republicans or those who agree with their platform, but mostly due to the usual lower turnout during non-presidential elections, especially among young voters. Pretty much par for the course for the first mid-term election after the election of a new President.

    Meanwhile, at the state level, it looks like despite spending $140 million of her own fortune, despite the supposed Republican “wave,” despite the Citizens-United-style-anonymously-funded attack ads against her opponent, Whitman seems to be sinking farther and farther in the polls. Talk about “out of touch.”

  33. tra
    October 28, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Oh, and that’s $140 million Whitman has wasted so far …I expect by the time we see the final numbers after the election it will be more like $160 or $180 million she’ll have wasted on her doomed gubernatorial bid.

    There’s a lesson here for wealthy candidates, as well as wealthy behind-the-scenes political operators: Having unlimited amounts of money available and doing saturation advertising will certainly increase brand recognition — but at the end of the day, if the product you’re selling is rancid meat spiked with rusty thumbtacks, well, you get the idea…

  34. Reinventing The Wheel
    October 28, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    And if there’s no media willing to publish the picture showing that the meat is green?

    Far from it, this week even the “centrist” news hour on KEET was relentless in its discussion of republican’s gains NEXT WEEK.


  35. October 28, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    If I lived in Eureka, I would vote with A-Nony-Mouse.

  36. Reality Check
    October 28, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    That’s right Hi-Fi, November 2nd will be telling. Does Eureka support the slate of bought candidates that say absolutely nothing besides “Yes on N, Yes on N!” These are great Arkley cheerleaders, but folks who lack any varsity status. No other issues, no other ideas, no integrity, no thanks!
    Is witchcraft spreading amongst the conservatives?

  37. High Finance
    October 28, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    “bought candidates” Silly speech. Your candidates just didn’t generate any support or excitement from enough people who cared enough to donate.

    Funny how you exclude Bonnie from the “bought” list. She received tens of thousands from one person, Bill Pierson, yet she isn’t bought? The conservative/moderates running for City Council did not accept more than $500 from any one person yet they are “bought”?

    All you did, Reality Check, is exposed your political prejudices & hypocrisy than any useful insight.

  38. Excited for Election Day
    October 28, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    Congratulations to Ron and Larry for receiving the Times Standard endorsement! It’s well deserved, and a good sign!

  39. FoxStudio
    October 28, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Meggums is at $162 million and counting. Jerry is now up by 10 points. Looks like every few million she spends adds another point to Jerry’s poll numbers. Keep spending, babe.

    Eureka, as it always has, will get the government it deserves. Kiss off any decent jobs, developments or anything else if Ron and Larry don’t win and the Arkleyites take over.

  40. anonymous
    October 28, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Mark Twain once said that we have the best government money can buy.
    I think I want a refund.

  41. Joel Mielke
    October 28, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    “…I thought I was writing in the pot thread…”

    Would it have made more sense if it were posted in the right thread?

  42. The Monitor
    October 28, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Hifi is a back bencher, but doesn’t know it yet. Next Wednesday my friends.

  43. Un-Named
    October 28, 2010 at 10:29 pm


    ………..smokeabowl. it rhymes. sorta. enough.

  44. Reality Check
    October 29, 2010 at 7:45 am

    Let’s talk what bought means-clearly you don’t remember the article in the NC Journal by John Osborn which highlights how the entire conservative slate has been bought by the SAME 17 donors! Your candidates did not have to campaign for any of their funding-their $500 donations came from people from the same family, workers of the same companies, and mainly from developers that want free reign. You can sell your bullshit somewhere else cause I’m not buying it here.
    Oh wait. Maybe you can’t sell bullshit to anyone and that’s why you are so angry! The real estate mess has really screwed your entitled lifestyle-so sorry Mark!

  45. High Finance
    October 29, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Big surprise, Excited 6.33pm, that the Times Standard endorsed Ron & Larry. Today they endorsed Mike Thompson and whoever the Democrats were running for Assembly & State Senate also. If they haven’t already, I’m sure they will endorsed Jerry Brown & Barbara Boxer.

    Tomorrow they’ll endorse Bonnie Neely & Patrick Cleery. If a Democrat was running for Dog Catcher they would endorse him also.

    The only Republicans they ever endorse are tokens who are 100% sure to win anyway.

  46. Reality Check
    October 29, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Wait, I thought that Virginia was a Democrat? Are you saying that Virginia is a Republican, is that right? Big Surprise!

  47. DanD
    October 29, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    O.K….’Heidi’ and now ‘Walt’ both get the awards for best ‘How to write a good comment.’

    BTW-One of Heidi’s comments doesnt seem to be here now.
    How does that happen?

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