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Vote for Cleary for a healthy ecosystem

[From the McKinleyville Press, Oct. 27, 2010]

We, the undersigned environmental scientists, engineers, geologists, biologists, and planners, strongly support Patrick Cleary for 5th District Supervisor.

We have all seen the damage to our watersheds that has caused declines in natural resources such as salmon as well as degraded water quality. The impacts on our community and economy are well documented. We also know that the continued use of our rivers, bays, oceans, and other natural resources is not without conflict.

This is why it is so important that we elect a supervisor that not only understands the complex issues facing us but also has the experience and ability to create and be part of the solution.

Patrick Cleary, through his dedication and hard work on the numerous local businesses, non-profits, and community groups, has demonstrated time and again his ability to bring people together for positive outcomes that are good for people and the environment.

Patrick has shown he has what it takes to improve our environment and our quality of life by obtaining funding for numerous projects such as eel grass preservation in Humboldt Bay, financing for Rio Dell’s wastewater treatment plant to protect water quality, and assisting our organic farmers grow their businesses.

November 2nd, we must choose a person with a clear understanding about the importance of healthy ecosystems and watersheds to our common culture, health, and economy.

For us the choice is clear.

Please vote for Patrick Cleary for 5th District Supervisor.

Jeff Anderson, Professional EngineerMark Andre, Forester
Ethan Bell, Aquatic Ecologist
Don Bremm, Fisheries Biologist
Jeffrey Dunk, Ecologist
Annie Eicher, Botanist
Rocco Fiori, Engineering Geologist
Sam Flanagan, Geologist
Danny Hagans, Earth Scientist
Dennis Halligan, Fisheries Biologist
Eileen Hemphill-Haley, PhD
Mark Hemphill-Haley, PhD
Jennifer Kalt, Botanist
Sharon Kramer, PhD
Steve Kramer, Fish and Wildlife Biologist
Gordon Leppig, Environmental Scientist
Julie Neander, Resource Specialist
Steve Salzman, Professional Engineer
Jay Stallman, Geologist/Geomorphologist
Bill Weaver, PhD
Sheri Woo, Professional Engineer

[Additional list of endorsements]

  1. Largo
    October 31, 2010 at 9:14 am

    I was relieved when Cleary beat Higgins. Cleary will serve us well as a Supervisor.

    October 31, 2010 at 9:21 am

    No human resource certifications above?

    Over-population is a legitimate concern; more so than what all of the above are certified as. Just sayin’ the sophisticated are not as sophisticated as they claim or need to be.

    With respect to Mr. Cleary, he will do an admirable job, just as the other candidate would do. Afterall, who locally has not done an admirable job as a supervisor that “a majority of” voters were willing to not re-elect? Good Luck on Tuesday.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  3. Voter
    October 31, 2010 at 9:26 am

    The most important way the County can protect rivers and fish is by adopting a strong General Plan Update. Sundberg won’t say whether he’s for Plan A, B, or C, but we know his supporters have sunk everything into this election for a General Plan that allows unlimited development.

    Cleary has stated his support for Plan A, better planning to limit environmental impacts while promoting better development in existing communities.

    Vote for Cleary for a better future for people and fish!

  4. October 31, 2010 at 10:20 am

    “November 2nd, we must choose a person with a clear understanding about the importance of healthy ecosystems and watersheds to our common culture, health, and economy”

    I want to ask Cleary a couple of questions about Rivers in Humboldt County, may I?

    1) What is C.H.E.R.T.? What role do they play in the health & economy of Rivers in Humboldt County.

    2) How many miles of State and Federal Wild & Scenic Rivers Act Rivers flow through Humboldt County. Or can you name the Rivers?

    3) You use both Health and Economy as if they work hand in hand? Is this called Instream Gravel Extraction?

    4) Will you allow more or less instream gravel extraction from Rivers in Humboldt County if you are Supervisor?

    What protection will you give to all the Wild & Scenic Rivers in Humboldt County?

  5. Anonymous
    October 31, 2010 at 10:37 am

    That’s boiler plate supporters from Higgins and Mike Wilson’s campaigns. The words change a little, but the people remain the same.

  6. I am Pro-Salmon & I Vote
    October 31, 2010 at 10:56 am

    The main way the Supes can protect rivers and fish is the General Plan Update. That’s why I support Cleary although I’ve supported Higgins in the past.

    The 5th District election this time around is all about the General Plan Update. Sundberg’s supporters want to keep this County in the year 1984 forever. Ryan might be a nice guy, but his major backers aren’t. Ask yourself, who would these candidates appoint the the Planning Commission? That’s what it’s all about in 2011, when the General Plan Update will be finalized. Unless you vote in supes who will drag it on another year, and then it’ll be a campaign issue again in 2012…and so on, until the coho are extinct from Humboldt County.

  7. Anonymous
    October 31, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Ryan might be a nice guy, but his major backers aren’t.

    If that’s your measure, you can’t support Cleary either because standing behind Cleary is Salzman.

  8. A-Nony-Mouse
    October 31, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Salzman is, at best, a hired campaigner. He doesn’t tell Cleary or anyone else what to do. According to some of you he couldn’t anyway because his horns and tail would get in the way. What drivel!!

    I wish we had two candidates in the 4th District who understood and studied the General Plan as well as your two do (well, maybe Cleary does more). We only have one, Bonnie Neely. Bass says she’ll “look at it later” and “can learn about it on the job”. She has no curiousity or eagerness to learn.

    Vote for Neely in the 4th and Cleary in the 5th (whichever may apply to you). Knowledge, ability, and experience are what we need!

  9. woodsworker
    October 31, 2010 at 11:46 am

    It seems to me that it’s just too easy to mindf*** the public. Cleary hammers away at his message of how much he’s done for this county and how much he cares and everybody buys it without taking a closer look.He literally lifted Higgins platform and claimed it as his own. He claimed that he has done more for the environment than the other candidates. That’s just ridiculous, he can’t begin to match Higgins in that respect. He’s got Nichols and his hand puppet Kalt supporting him so he must be an environmentalist. Nichols only gives his support because he sees some potential for increasing his power. While I have some questions re: Sundberg he will get my vote. That’s largely because he has more knowledge of and caring about the environment than Cleary by far. Sundberg met with Higgins to discuss the problems with the rivers, he cares deeply but he isn’t the professional huckster that Cleary is so he hasn’t made coin out of his meeting. Cleary paid to be on a fake mailer that said he was the Dem party pick. The mailer was a lie and he , of course, knew that. Cleary has made so many claims about himself that are a crock that you all should be asking questions.

  10. Anonymous
    October 31, 2010 at 11:46 am

    “I want to ask Cleary a couple of questions about Rivers in Humboldt County, may I?”

    Yes you should call him. I don’t think this blog is where you will get your answers.

  11. Anonymous
    October 31, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Ok, “woodsworker” who will Ryan put on the planning commission? Did you or Higgins ask that question? It is the most important environmental question you could ask considering what actual influence the supervisors seat has.

    Higgins was impressed with Ryan’s doe eyes about the environment. But if he is elected what will really happen?

    Ryan will keep Dennis Mayo on the planning commission. Dennis is known for taking all his talking points directly from developer lobbyist Kay Backer.

    Are we going to allow the Higgins’ sour grapes crowd to move forward the tea party developer agenda? I don’t think so.

  12. October 31, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Let Cleary be accountable for his statements, he doesn’t read or jump into a blog thread? He or someone is reading this, so let him be da man and dance. Clearly Cleary can say what ever he wants to get elected, same goes for anyone else, its just the way he puts it that has me off the fence and running away.

    Pick one, salmon/steelhead OR Instream Gravel Extraction? Because you can’t have both in the same river without one over taking the other and I don’t think one has a swimming chance! So pick one?

  13. Bolithio
    October 31, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Plan A, better planning to limit environmental impacts while promoting better development in existing communities.

    LOL Ya right!

  14. Anonymous
    October 31, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Of course “saveoursalmon” has asked Sundberg who has received thousands of dollars from gravel extractors the same question? Are you expecting Sundberg to “jump in” to this blog?

  15. October 31, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Who the hell said anything about Sundberg besides you. It goes for anyone running for Supervisor, this thread was about Cleary. So are there any more words or spin you want to put up or shut up about?

    Then maybe we should cut to the chase, money or environment? This question is open to all running for Supervisor.

  16. Anon
    October 31, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    A-Nony-Mouse, Sundberg doesn’t know jack about the General Plan. Anyone who watched the debates and knows something themselves about the General Plan knows that he barely knows what it is, let alone what policies are under discussion.

    Cleary stands to be the best supervisor this district has ever had–best for the environment, best for the economy, best for the people.

  17. Anonymous
    October 31, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    “Then maybe we should cut to the chase, money or environment? This question is open to all running for Supervisor.”

    Point is no one running for supervisor will answer here.

    Cleary’s positions are far better for salmon than the “property rights” rehtoric of his challenger Sundberg. This will be reflected in who he chooses for a planning commissioner. The developers have an expectation for their investment in Sundberg, and that is Dennis Mayo to remain on the planning commission.

    That my friend, is bad for salmon.

  18. tra
    October 31, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    “Sundberg won’t say whether he’s for Plan A, B, or C, but we know his supporters have sunk everything into this election for a General Plan that allows unlimited development.”

    Well I guess they’re gonna be mighty disappointed, since none of the the General Plan options allow for “unlimited development,” not even Plan C.

  19. tra
    November 1, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Am I the only one who is fed up with one side accusing the other of being for “unlimited development” and the other side accusing the first of being for “no development,” when in fact none of the General Plan options contain either of those extremes?

  20. tra
    November 1, 2010 at 12:31 am

    By the way, I oppose Sundberg, not because of his position on the General Plan, but because of his driving-while-plastered problem.


  21. Anon
    November 1, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Sundberg isn’t going to stick with Mayo and will choose someone else.

  22. Anonymous
    November 1, 2010 at 11:04 am

    When did he say that? And which developer is on the short list?

  23. Bolithio
    November 1, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Just to clear the air – there is nothing a Humboldt county policy can do to better or worse the situation for salmon. That is unless they adopt a international policy making the consumption of salmon illegal. Even then, we are still faced with a largely remnant population of wild salmon in CA that will be extinct by 2100 regardless of any development policy. The appetite of man for ‘seafood’ will prevail – and thus the fishery stocks will continue to decline.

  24. Anonymous
    November 1, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Developers and large landowners looking to subdivide would like us to believe that, it is not true. One of the current biggest impacts to salmon is the loss of habitat due to summer water draws from critical streams by homes and “agriculture” in the watersheds. County planning, the planning commission and our supervisors have a lot to due with how that plays out. Developers and their candidates are the first to blame the salmon’s problems on someone else.

  25. Anonymous
    November 1, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Sounds like the Sundberg campaign has gone negative with its ads on KINS.

  26. High Finance
    November 1, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    I am extremly disappointed in you Tra. There are many valid reasons one could vote for or against a county supervisor candidate and you pick this one?

    One prior drunk driving mistake is not one of them. Supervisors do not make driving law or enforce driving violations.

  27. Anonymous
    November 1, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    How about the fact that Sundberg is currently on probation, the terms of which he will not disclose.

    We all make mistakes, and then it takes time for people to trust that we have learned from them. The duration of Sundberg’s probation seems like an appropriate amount of time.

    Wait until he has proven that he has changed by not breaking the terms of his probation. Then I will feel he is qualified to run for supervisor or at the very least look me in the eye an talk about public safety.

  28. tra
    November 1, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    “I am extremly disappointed in you Tra.”

    I’m crushed…but somehow I’ll survive.

    I would agree that one prior drunk driving incident does not disqualify someone from running for office for the rest of their life. I never said it should.

    But in this case the offense was quite recent, and he hasn’t even completed his sentence yet — he’s still going to be on probation for a couple of years. Also weighing into my thinking are (1) that his blood alcohol level was VERY high, and (2) his initial response when this came to light was to attempt to minimize the offense (saying he “just drove “a few miles” to his home). Very poor judgement on both counts.

    You get to choose YOUR criteria for candidates, and I get to choose mine. My criteria include that the candidate hasn’t had a recent DUI in which he was at twice the legal limit and then tries to minimize the seriousness of the offense. I really don’t think that should be too much to ask.

  29. Anonymous
    November 1, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    What if Ryan was drunk and waving around an unloaded pistol? Would that have been a “mistake”? It would have been a scandal. But somehow driving a ton of steel down the highway at over 60 miles an hour while drunk is ok?

  30. treesnstuff
    November 2, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    @bolithio: salmon in humboldt county are not dying primarily as a result of overfishing or people liking to eat salmon. the water in humboldt rivers is not cold enough and voluminous enough to support the salmon. the number of dams on humboldt rivers is the other main issue. just wanted to make that clear so that people don’t go around thinking people eating salmon is the problem. i suppose most folks in humboldt know this, but just wanted to state it again.

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