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More post-election fun from Mielke

Local cartoonist and graphic designer Joel Mielke continues his 2010 election reflection in this week’s Journal.

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  1. Anonymous
    November 18, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Looks like Marks lost 2 fingers?

    Is that how they got to him?

  2. Anonymous
    November 18, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Tricky Dick times two? Funny stuff Joel- never fails to at least bring a grin to my face.

  3. Steve
    November 18, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Love it!

  4. tra
    November 18, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    I don’t quite “get” this cartoon. What is the point he’s trying to make? That there are two guys with the first name “Richard” involved in local politics, and that they supported different candidates?

    I usually get a chuckle out of Joel’s cartoons, or at least see what he’s trying to get across…maybe this one is just going over my head?

    Help me out here, folks…what did YOU see in this cartoon?

  5. High Finance
    November 18, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Unfortunately, Joel has blown it this time.

    Bass is a Democrat, Brady has been a Democrat for years, Newman is a Decline to State and Measure N had the support of the majority of Democrats.

    While I don’t agree with Joel most of the time, I do think he is usually better than this.

  6. random guy
    November 18, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    High Finance is a career troll.

  7. Not A Native
    November 18, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    It makes an analogy to the Dickens novel in which, despite their appearances, people are not what they present themselves to be. Both Richards in the cartoon are dissembling to get a political win.

    To me, the cartoon takes no sides but implies that symbols, rather than facts, are what local voters care about.

  8. tra
    November 18, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Okay, but in the cartoon, Salzman is saying “it’s just plain wrong to vote for Jackson.” That seems to me like a matter of stating an opinion, not really an example of “dissembling.”

    Meanwhile, in the cartoon, Marks claims that he did not support any Republicans, and in fact none of the candidate signs portrayed alongside him were for actual registered Republicans. So to interpret that as “dissembling” think that Marks believes that those candidates were really Republicans-in-all-but-name, and I assume that he doesn’t believe that at all, and therefore is not really “dissembling” either.

  9. tra
    November 18, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    So to interpret that as “dissembling,” you’d have to think that Marks believes…

  10. anon
    November 18, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    What he is saying is that republicans (*like Bass, Newman, Brady, etc.) don’t have the stomach to run as who they really are. They run to the dems b/c the Democratic Central committee doesn’t have the guts to take them on. Good for them though for sending Richard Owen….I mean Marks…..packing.

  11. random guy
    November 18, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    They changed parties because they know people weigh party affiliation first and foremost, especially the casual voter who’s not reading blogs or doing any real research because they have normal hard working lives of their own to live. They walk like a duck, talk like a duck, hang out with ducks, accept lots of duck money, vote like ducks, but call themselves swans. They’re liars.

  12. Not A Native
    November 18, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Heck anything anyone says can be characterized as just ‘their opnion’ if you want to play rhetorical games. But that doesn’t make it a reasonable opinion. And if its not reasonable, it may indeed be dissembling(that’s Mielke’s ‘opinion’).

    If you think any campaign can reasonably characterize voting for a bonifide candidate is “just plain wrong”, then its similarly reasonable to campaign for Yes on prop 8 because its “just plain right”(its merely an opinion). I think Barry Goldwater ran for president using that slogan.

    And if you think that Bass, et.al. are not more aligned with local Republican policies than Democratic ones, you’ve haven’t paid attention to their platforms and responses to questions. But of course, as always, thats just ‘my opinion’.

  13. random guy
    November 18, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    I’m still somewhat shellshocked to have just looked into the political party switcheroo’s pulled by people who now sit in local government. It’s lying to everybody, especially the most vulnerable. Look at the degree of public involvement in researching local politics, you can count the number of people doing it. Virginia Bass and Mike Newman oughta be run out of town for taking advantage of us. Anybody who pulled that crap outa be kicked out of the county for all I care.

    I met Larry Glass about three or four years ago, not really knowing who he was, checking out records at the works. I knew he was somehow involved in local politics but not specifically city council. We talked very briefly about a couple local things, open space and south old-town commercial rental spaces, as I dig the art scene down there and hate to see them scrutinized like some people were doing at the time. And he was really casual, straight forward and human. Not afraid he might offend me, just banter. He’s been replaced by these people? WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?

  14. Lost
    November 18, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    5:35pm-What crap did Bass and Newman pull that took advantage of us? I have known Larry for years and he is one angry dude. Ask some Avalon people.

  15. Anonymous
    November 18, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    The people voted.

  16. Kubler-Ross
    November 18, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Denial and Anger have pretty well been played out here. You know the drill. Lets move on.

  17. High Finance
    November 18, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    I will say that Virginia changing parties & Mike Newman changing to Decline to state was disingenuous at best.

    Not their finest hour. But it came from one person who gives bad political advice. Even though I lost some respect for them that they cannot get back, they were still a hundred times better than their opponents in the general election.

  18. random guy
    November 18, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Lost, you’re involved in local politics, so you’re not so lost really. The overwhelming majority of people in humboldt county draw a blank if you ask them questions like “what’s the balloon track” or “who’s your district’s supervisor”. When they vote, like the majority of people everywhere, they base their decision on the effects of candidates’ publicity, primarily signage, and in the voting booth by party affiliation. This is widely known, especially to one Steve Glazer, head of the multimillion dollar public relations firm hired by constituents of Bass etc. to advise their campaigns, starting long ago. Less than a hundredth of a percent of voters know who he is and what his firm does, let alone that he was behind Bass’ campaign from the beginning, including the decision, based on lots of study, to make the party switch that secured her win.

  19. High Finance
    November 18, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Why do you liberals always assume that the voters are stupid Random Guy?

    Those same voters re-elected Jerry Brown & Babs Boxer.

  20. Anonymous
    November 18, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    random guy, I have been trying to make sense of this since the election WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?! is such an under expletive. We are taliking the real big bad hairy WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE? This doesn’t make any sense, people are not that stupid!

    and Lost, the more I discover about the inner workings of city hall the angrier I get too. We are dicked around, lied too the system is manipulated to serve the “insiders”. The developers and profiteers are churning every last dime, our dimes with the assistance of the boys AND GIRLS inside city hall. The council agenda is manipulated, public process derailed, the public’s attention diverted while our pockets are picked, our poor get poorer, the tweekers allowed to run a foul on our streets and slum lords allowed to exploit those with a shitty credit score and their kids, those children are being robbed of their sense of dignity and labeled as “the kid who lives in the hole in the wall” THERE SHOULDN’T BE A FUCKING HOLE IN THE WALL IT IS DEGRADING TO OUR CITY!!!!!!!!!

    These pussy wannabees all want a piece of the action, they just want to be part of the “cool crowd” Glass said, fuck you, you guys are wrong you’re robbing my community, and that makes him a mighty unpopular fella TO THEM, a HERO TO US.

    Glass has been attempting to protect and revitalize the downtown business district since before the North of Fourth, that is longevity and determination. City Council was just one more rung on the ladder of a dedicated thoughtful contributor and cherished community leader.

    WE LOVE YOU LARRY KEEP UP THE VALIANT EFFORT, THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT AND YOU STILL REPRESENT WOULD NEVER WASTE THE KIND OF DOUGH SPENT ON THE BRADY CAMPAIGN IN POLITICS, BUT WE ARE RICH IN OTHER WAYS AND MAN WE’VE GOT YOUR BACK!

  21. random guy
    November 18, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    I haven’t in any way whatsoever suggested voters are stupid, High Finance. That says more about how you see things. Next time you grab a big mac, ask the person at drive through who their district supervisor is, and what they think should be done with the balloon track.

  22. Anonymous
    November 18, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Don’t forget Sundberg also took the same advice to switch from Republican to decline to state.

  23. random guy
    November 18, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    To anybody who thinks I don’t know what I’m talking about…take a good look around you next time you’re out and about, check out the people. Ask yourself how many of them even care to take time out of their overworked and underpaid days to dig through the piles of bullshit in local politics alone. If you’re reading this blog, you belong to a minority of even slightly informed voters. Candidates like Bass played on people’s faith and trust, to assist a bigger business plan in progress. It’s really that simple.

  24. random guy
    November 18, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    yeah, 9:52, fuck sundberg too…lots of money’s got its hand in his pocket.

  25. heywaitaminnit
    November 18, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Kinda weird that the Humboldt County Democratic party is chock-a-block full of Greens and Republicans who think they can’t get elected wearing their true colors

  26. Walt
    November 19, 2010 at 6:04 am

    “Yes on prop 8 because its “just plain right”(its merely an opinion). I think Barry Goldwater ran for president using that slogan.” Actually, Barry’s people said “In your heart you know he’s right.” The left countered with “In your guts you know he’s nuts.”

  27. E. Percival Ne'er-do-well Esquire III
    November 19, 2010 at 10:15 am

    You hit it Walt. In you your guts you know they’re all nuts. That gut feeling is what it gets down to for me. All the sugar coating, expensive campaign consulting, rebranding to appeal to the most generic middle of the road voters, party changing, etc. doesn’t mean shit when your gut is having a one on one with you. If you choose to ignore it, because you haven’t been paying attention or are too fucking lazy to pay attention you get what we got this time around. The middle that some like to portray as the people sick of the extremes are the ones persuaded by glitz. They are the ones that are too lazy to form an opinion and the right wing sound machine with Roger Ailes at the helm are delighted to help you form that opinion with good looking media whores who dress provocatively and will even cross and uncross their legs to keep your attention tuned to their message of anyone no matter how poor or how dumb you are, you can be rich like me. The right picks candidates on sex appeal in an effort to keep your attention on their cleavage instead of the idiotic blather coming out of their mouths. But when it comes right down to it, that gut feeling is still there, if you will only listen to it.

  28. E. Percival Ne'er-do-well Esquire III
    November 19, 2010 at 11:42 am

    Actually I’m off meds today, really sorry I imploded here in front of my friends. I hate losing and it’s really hard to admit the Democrats as well as the Repubs voted for someone I don’t support but after this I may have to get a job and make enough money to move somewhere else. You won’t have E. Percival Ne’er-do-well Esquire III to kick around anymore so there!

  29. random guy
    November 19, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    My post was edited, I won’t post or read this blog anymore, ever. Insert sarcastic “you’ll be missed” by somebody.

  30. Anonymous
    November 20, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Nobody will miss either one of you or any of your alter egos either.

  31. E. Percival Ne'er-do-well Esquire III
    November 20, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Wow, I’m honored. One of the local basement dwellers has thought enough of my post to actually use my moniker and put up a fictitious post at 11:42. Don’t worry basement boy, I’ll be here a long, long time but maybe next time you’ll have the courtesy of posting under your own moniker of “anonymous”. Feel free to use “basement boy” if you run out of ideas.

  32. basement boy
    November 20, 2010 at 10:30 am

    Have you thought about seeking professional help?

  33. E. Percival Ne'er-do-well Esquire III
    November 22, 2010 at 7:55 am

    Wanna give me the name of your shrink BB? Well, maybe not since he’s not helping you much.

  34. Anonymous
    November 22, 2010 at 10:47 am

    Just tell me who won.

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