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Happy Thanksgiving

Enjoy the turkeys.

  1. Anon
    November 25, 2010 at 12:29 am

    sweet. very thankful for you “H”! Looks like RA is ready to storm another office of an ‘insurgent’! hee-hee! …..angry boy, so sad.

  2. Anonymous
    November 25, 2010 at 6:13 am

    You don’t see the irony anon… calling someone angry when H presents an image like the one above. Progressives are just as hate-filled, maybe even more so when it comes to hating one particular man.

  3. joeschmo
    November 25, 2010 at 7:15 am

    Geeze – nothing but pure hate here.

  4. Decline to State
    November 25, 2010 at 7:17 am

    Oddly, I find I am still have so much to be thankful for even in these troubling times.

    Happy Thanksgiving all.

  5. Heidi
    November 25, 2010 at 8:22 am

    still figuring the gravitar thingy out

  6. Heidi
    November 25, 2010 at 8:24 am

    ha got it, happy day, happy life, we are all so lucky

  7. Joel Mielke
    November 25, 2010 at 8:51 am

    ROFLMAO! Awesome picture! Those people are such dickwads!

    Oh, sorry. I thought I was at the Mirror.

  8. November 25, 2010 at 9:35 am

    The Mirror would have had them in leather bikinis and made genital references.

    Our all-powerful town leaders can handle a little turkey humor.

    November 25, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Don’t touch my junk Heraldo, or I’ll sue ya!

    Fondling the fondlers for fun. I wonder what happens when that turkey drug (trip, trep could not confirm spelling) makes a TSA UNION-TO-BE employee fall asleep on the job and as that employee falls asleep, that employee gropes a passenger in the most unusual way, gobble gobble gobble.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  10. November 25, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Happy Thanksgiving Humboldt Herald. I hope you enjoy one last good Turkey dinner before the end of days.


  11. Angel
    November 25, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Does anyone know if any of the Chinese food restaurants are open today?

  12. Shaft
    November 25, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Change we can bereave in.

  13. A man suddenly appears and
    November 25, 2010 at 11:05 am

    I’m disappointed Heraldo. I usually enjoy your posts, but the Mirror-style graphic is a sad lapse into name-calling. I hope I don’t have to do with the Herald what I did with the Mirror, which is stop reading it. Sigh.

  14. CheckYourMyopiaAtTheDoor
    November 25, 2010 at 11:06 am

    Thanks for the timely cartoon.

  15. Big Al
    November 25, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Happy Thanksgiving to all (even you HiFi)

  16. Goldie
    November 25, 2010 at 11:42 am

    Great parody…….. still laughing.

  17. Lumpy
    November 25, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    That cracked me up.

    Maybe Johanna will make up a new office and win it and then be able to pardon these turkeys.

  18. Anonymous
    November 25, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Good for a chuckle…and I also think these two can handle the humor!

  19. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 5:46 am

    Cry Babbie’s…Congrats to Eureka City Council
    and the Humboldt Cty Board of Sups…

  20. Joel Mielke
    November 26, 2010 at 8:15 am

    Sorry Heraldo, but my point was that you ought to leave the pasting of disembodied heads of local political figures, politicians and public servants onto unflattering pictures to the Mirror. Not that the Mirror evidences any skill at it, it’s just that I come here for political discussion and because your posts are often interesting.

  21. November 26, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Forgive me if I fail to cater to your wishes in the future.

  22. Unhappy
    November 26, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Nice spirit of Thanksgiving there heraldo. When you have the likes of myopia saying great post, you really know you have sunk to humboldt mirror depths.

  23. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    This Thanksgiving I am thankful for Rob Arkley. His generosity has kept my family in a job for another year and with a good wage and good benefits, too. Go ahead and mock all you want but the bottom line is that Arkley employs a lot of folks who then go and spend their money in town businesses.

  24. High Finance
    November 26, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    I am also thankful to Rob Arkley for all the good things he has done for Eureka. This town would be looking a lot worse if it wasn’t for him.

    I am thankful to Virginia Bass for helping us to retire Bonnie Neeley.

    Believe it or not, I am thankful for Heraldo. For without him, lots of the left wing loonies wouldn’t have a place to rant & they could possibly become dangerous.

  25. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    12:09 – You have a job because it is profitable for your employer for you to have a job. Or could it be you are Scrooge, pretending to be an employee? Generosity! Heh.

  26. Walt
    November 26, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    You do have to wonder if the right REALLY spends hours reading Heraldo for fun, or if it’s paid COINTELPRO. Same with NPR. Heraldo, would YOU know?

  27. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 2:41 pm


    You are wrong about it being profitable for my employer (Arkley) to employ me. You don’t know the story at all but let me just say that Mr. Arkley is no scrooge.

  28. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    2:41 is correct. Having known the Arkleys for a very long time, I can tell you that many things said on this blog and other places are true. Being a scrooge, cheap, or poor employer are not qualities of his though. He is a generous employer, giving benefits I have not witnessed in most settings, he is kind to his employees financially and he is not reaping profits right now, as you claim. Hopefully later.

  29. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    On the other hand, Eureka’s economy will worsen due to more of developer’s big-profit growth model we’ve already suffered. Big boxes, big homes, big cars, big bailouts.

    $6 million in donations to Eureka is nice, but it’s a fraction of the millions he could make with his new political control and if he wins his lawsuit against the People of Humboldt County.

    Cartoons are a tradition in America’s Old or New Gilded Age where there’s two kinds of people:

    The Doers and the Done-To.

  30. A-Nony-Mouse
    November 26, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    I’m glad for those of you employed by Mr. Arkley that he is a generous boss. What I can’t understand is why he is so hell-bent on bringing a bunch of minimum wage, no benefit jobs to our town. Surely there are better possibilities. It doesn’t make sense, does it?
    Yes, Home Despot pays at or barely above minimum wage. It provides benefits if the employee PAYS for them (hard to do on minimum).
    That site could produce far more wealth for Arkley and for Eureka but he doesn’t want to talk about it with us, the public. Weird!!! and sad.

  31. Toohey
    November 26, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Your graphics department needs to get with the times. That graphic is reminiscent of a first graders paste and scissor work…you could consider subbing out to the Mirror.

  32. November 26, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    You do have to wonder if the right REALLY spends hours reading Heraldo for fun, or if it’s paid COINTELPRO. Same with NPR. Heraldo, would YOU know?

    I might have a chance of finding out if said COINTELPRO informants logged in from the COINTELPRO HQ. But since it doesn’t work that way we can only guess.

  33. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    I have witnessed the cruel, punishing side of Rob Arkley along with the benevolent- and, let me tell you, there is no comparison – once you are on his “bad side.” So, I wish all of the happy supporters good wishes while they last and hope that they never experience reality! Truly, the wrath of Arkley is not pleasant!

    ~ From one who knows.

  34. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    9:16 I hear ya. This person can be very benevolent but his bad side is very hurtful and cruel. He can spin the truth to make it work for him, and it seems he doesn’t even know it. Or does he? The mind works in odd ways.

  35. at the table
    November 26, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Affluence is like a magic wand, it can be used for good or wielded like a sword. The true measure of a wealthy man is how he exercises his power. I have asked myself in opportunities to slay an adversary “what benefit will this ultimately serve” and if the only benefit is to take out a rival and I do,I have lost, I have only measured up to what that man was. Victory is in rising above, enlightenment is humility.

  36. Funnygirl
    November 26, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    I would like to opportunity to be trly wealthy and see how it would work out for me. Until then, some peace of mind always works well. Figure out how to get it and – presto – Nirvana.

  37. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    9:32 Glendale, Pentachlorophenol exposure,faced with mortality and a legacy to uphold, “nothing is more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose”

  38. Anonymous
    November 26, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    He, RA, is simply not rational in any situation where he feels vulnerable. Not a whole lot else to say.

  39. Anon
    November 26, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Home Depot is not quite minimum wage and pays benefits. I had a friend who went to work for Home Depot in Redding and made more money than he did with Simpson here which was not a bad paying job either. Not every “big box” pays bad wages.

  40. High Finance
    November 27, 2010 at 9:35 am

    The “wrath” of Arkley is way overstated. I have experienced that “wrath” and I’m still standing.

    His influence is because of the good things he does. If he was a malevolent as you all claim, he would have no influence at all.

    Tony Soprano is only in the movies, not in Humboldt County. Still, it makes for lots of hysterical blog posts.

  41. Joel Mielke
    November 27, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Low wage workers is a critical part of the big box profit margin. This from a query about Home Depot wages:

    “I worked at Home Depot in 2005 for about 9 months. I started at $10.00 per and at 90 day review got a whopping 50 cent raise. As I learned about more departments, increased my training, etc. at 9 months I got to $12.00 per. My HR manager said I became more valuable to the store … and the managers liked me because I could work a number of areas.”

  42. Joel Mielke
    November 27, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    And here are some numbers that support the comment above.

  43. Reinventing The Wheel
    November 27, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    A local contractor told me he didn’t like Pierson’s because they instructed people how to do their own repairs. No joke!

    Pierson’s plumbing, electrical and construction information helped me to get my business off the ground without debt, EXACTLY what hard-working Americans need to start their small businesses.

    Once successful, we had little time but plenty of income to hire many independent contractors at work and at home.

    We’ve been to Home Depots, their employees often cannot even identify, nor locate, materials we know they stock! Some managers require employees NOT to provide advice!

    Involving citizens in their community’s development would certainly be less contentious, faster and cheaper than spending millions to game the system, create AstroTurf organizations, file frivolous lawsuits, pay settlements, hire lobbyists, and slather the media to win political lap-dogs willing to cram big-profit developments down our throats and call it “progress”. (So that Mr. Arkley can laugh all the way to the bank while retirees’ water/sewer bills double, police, schools and city services diminish, average incomes plummet, and the new “growth” is in traffic, poverty, crime, and pawn shops).

    We need a community newspaper with the guts to connect the dots.

  44. CheckYourMyopiaAtTheDoor
    November 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    @ 12:26

    Thank you for your post.
    Spot on.

  45. High Finance
    November 27, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    So don’t shop at Home Depot Myopia.

    But you have no right to tell your neighbors, who don’t need to have their hands held, that they cannot shop where they want.

    Living in a democracy can be the pits for you people who want an all powerful government. But your father’s generation was just as wrong as you are when some tried to tell people they were not allowed to shop at Safeway but must shop at Joe’s corner grocery store.

  46. anon
    November 27, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Reinventing The Wheel..have to disagree that Pierson’s gives ‘good advice’. When installing can lights for remodel I opened the box to find instructions that a 6″ hold saw (bit) would be the best method of cutting a ceiling hole. Pierson’s does not stock a 6″ hole saw; when I asked about ordering one-the woman in electrical snorted that isn’t how it’s done! Until I pulled the paper out of my pocket that came with the damn thing.

    Had to order it online from Home Depot…where sales associates are not known for snorting at cutomers.

  47. tra
    November 27, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    HiFi seems to be confusing representative democracy with libertarian utopianism. In a libertarian utopia, it would be true that “you have no right to tell your neighbors…that they cannot shop where they want.” Anyone could build any store (or factory, or hog farm or whatever) anyplace they pleased, as there would be no zoning, coastal regulations, or other laws to get in the way.

    However, we don’t live in a libertarian utopia, we live in a representative democracy, where there are laws and rules limiting where various enterprises can be located, and therefore limiting your “right to shop wherever you want.”

    By the way, can anyone point out where can I find this “freedom to shop anywhere you want” in the Constitution?

  48. High Finance
    November 28, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Nice try Tra. But can you point out where can I find this “authority to tell me where I cannot shop”?

    A true representative democracy would let the majority decide. On Nov 2nd the whopping majority said we want the Marina Center and Home Depot.

  49. Reinventing The Wheel
    November 28, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Hi-larious TRA, thanks!

    “Not allowed to shop at Safeway”??

    How about requiring Safeway to pay for it’s own $250,000 intersection at Harris and Harrison, instead of merely contributing their “fair share” of $6,000, and requiring the public to subsidize the rest?

    If put to a vote, would “Libertarians” or anyone else, want to pay for a larger Safeway, when we already have two?

    Would the public vote to subsidize more poverty-wage big boxes if they were routinely reminded of the cost, with the same veracity of the Dow Jones drumbeat?

    Henderson Center badly needs a grocery store where there’s a Rite-Aid. Understanding this, Safeway bought it and made it a requirement in the lease that it would NEVER be a grocery store!

    Planning by the highest bidder meets the needs of the highest bidders. Convincing the public they have a choice is a widespread lie. Like it or not, government is all citizens have to restrain capital from working against the public interest.

    I agree with TRA, let’s say “yes” to building industrial pig farms next-door to all those “I’ve got mine” Libertarians.

  50. Anonymous
    November 28, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    I agree, of course, that a majority of Eureka voters voted to change the zoning of the Balloon Track parcel to commercial, consistent with the plans for the Marina Center. Clearly Measure N was a step forward for Arkley in terms of clearing the various regulatory hurdles, and without a doubt it was a public relations triumph as well. But the Coastal Commission, also the product of a representative democracy (at the state level), still has to approve or disapprove the re-zoning and weigh in on other issues.

    As far as people voting for N because they really want to bring in Home Depot, well, assuming you’re right that this is important to the people who voted for Measure N, then that get’s a bit tricky in that there’s certainly no guarantee that Home Depot will actually want to locate here (the Eureka vote certainly isn’t binding on Home Depot) and the Big Box tenant could very easily end up being some other store, quite possibly even WalMart (as long as it is within the space restrictions). If that were to happen, I wonder how those voters will feel about the change. In particular, I wonder if they will feel that they have been hoodwinked with the ol’ bait-and-switch.

  51. tra
    November 28, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    That was me at 1:05. Not sure why it posted as “Anonymous.”

  52. tra
    November 28, 2010 at 1:32 pm


    Government authority to establish zoning, control pollution and so on has been well-established for quite some time now. So we can argue whether these sorts of regulations are too strict, too lax, properly applied, and so on, but it’s a bit silly to argue that any of this is invalid based on some mystical “right to shop wherever you want.”

    If the Arkleys clear all the regulatory hurdles, and they go ahead and build the retail space, don’t worry — you’ll be allowed to shop there when it opens. It’s not a question of your “right to shop” it’s a question of their “right to build” at that location, and the limits that our society places on that right. These limits include the zoning issues, cleanup requirement and compliance with the Coastal Act.

    With the recent settlement of the Baykeeper lawsuit, it appears that the clean-up plan is likely no longer a major obstacle (other than financial), with Measure N the zoning issue is partially resolved (with the Coastal Commission still getting the final say), which leaves the Coastal Commission as the major remaining hurdle.

    All in all, I’d say that today I see the odds of this project actually clearing all the regulatory hurdles as significantly more likely than I would have thought a year or two ago. As far as the financing for the project, that may be headed in the other direction due to the weak economy, I don’t know.

    But at least on the regulatory front, it looks like the key question may be whether Arkley & Co. can manage to work constructively with the Coastal Commission, or whether they will continue to shoot themselves in the foot by stonewalling the Commission by refusing to provide documentation requested by the Commission even while blaming the Commission for the delay, and also by trying to pretend that the Coastal Commission doesn’t have jurisdiction in the first place.

  53. High Finance
    November 28, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    There is nothing in your post at 1.32 pm that I can disagree with Tra.

    You may be right, maybe SN was “shooting itself in the foot” with some of their tatics. However, neither you nor I are in their war room & do not know what their strategies are.

    What could seem to us as shooting themselves or stonewalling could very well be deliberate negotiating tatics planned in advance. They are looking at five years out & not five months out. Since we are not privy to their thinking, we can only guess.

    I have to think that SN’s money buys them the most experienced & finest minds available, they are thinking at a plain above us & not reacting petulantly or emotionally.

  54. Anonymous
    November 29, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Arkley’s frivolous lawsuits against the CC and People of Humboldt County, his lobbyists that dominate public meetings, his political attack ads slathering local media, the phony AstroTurf groups, on and on….

    Calling it “petulant” would be kind.

    The former owner of Hi-Value furniture told me Arkley entered his store threatening that he would buy the building and evict him. He told me that Arkley proceeded to throw a handful of notes that Hi-Value had placed on cars asking them to please stop parking all day in front of his business. Turns-out, the cars belonged to Security National employees.

    Any idiot who still thinks the power of their consumer dollar defines their “right to shop” needs to explain how Ray’s Market in Eureka remains open after 10 years with painfully few customers!? National retailers are large enough to rig the system so that the biggest predator wins, not the best, and certainly not diversity. They patiently drain-off enough shoppers in a rural market to eventually destroy their locally owned competition…no matter how long it takes.

    When Americans could no longer afford buying those higher-profit big homes, big cars, and big loans, the industries were simply bailed-out and are continuing anew. Watch for the next generation of tricks and traps required for the 3rd bubble since the 1980’s.

    Collection services utilized by hospitals, county tax assessors, and many others, are among the fastest growing industries with high returns on investments.

    While economic collapse remains profitable, investments in recovery, diversification, alternative energy, and America’s human resources will diminish.

    It’s rigged that way.

  55. Anonymous
    November 29, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Are you saying that Ray’s Food Place (where I work) is getting bail out funds ? And as for draining off customers from locally owned stores, which ones ?

    The only real competitors we have are Safeway & Winco, neither of which is local. The only local stores that sell groceries are the gas stations that have a mini-mart and the few corner grocery stores that still exist. They do not compete in the same market we do. If the rest of your points are as woefully uninformed as the one about Ray’s, why should anyone give you any credibility on those either ?

  56. Quick Question
    November 29, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    “The only local stores that sell groceries are the gas stations that have a mini-mart and the few corner grocery stores that still exist. “

    Are the Murphy’s Markets, the Co-ops and Wildberries not local competitors who lack the deeper pockets of a chain like Ray’s to subsidize under-performing stores?

  57. Anonymous
    November 29, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Yes, those are local. Please don’t forget our local markets.

  58. Joel Mielke
    November 29, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    “… you have no right to tell your neighbors … that they cannot shop where they want.”

    The thought never crossed my mind, but I do have the right to try to keep Home Depot out of here.

  59. Anonymous
    November 30, 2010 at 8:46 am

    There are legal rights & there are moral rights.

    The Murphy’s Markets, the Co-ops and Wildberries are fine grocery stores if you can afford them. If you can, good for you. But don’t rub our noses in the fact we can’t afford them. Do you guys do any on-line shopping ?

  60. Ditto
    November 30, 2010 at 9:14 am

    People who whine they can’t afford local stores are cutting their own economic throats since diverting local money to big boxes guarantees they will never be able to afford anything else.

  61. Anonymous
    November 30, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Why is no one screaming about Costco selling Christmas trees this year???? I’m pretty sure that would be considered as competition to locals who sell trees as well as non-profits who do it for fundraising every year. How come Costco is God of retail but home depot is bad?????

  62. High Finance
    December 1, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Good point 8.46am.

    Ditto, Joel, Quick, Tra, Wheel, Myopia, Heraldo, Mouse and all the other hypocrites who claim we should only be allowed to shop local;


  63. tra
    December 1, 2010 at 9:05 am

    “…tra…and all the other hypocrites who claim we should only be allowed to shop local…”

    That’s funny, I don’t remember making such a claim.

  64. Anonymous
    December 1, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Maybe you smoked too much pot ?

  65. tra
    December 1, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    No, I think it’s just that I never made such a sweeping claim.

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