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Arkley selling properties thru Illinois Real Estate Co.

Cherie and Rob Arkley.

Remember that sprawling lodge in Alaska that Eureka power monger Rob Arkley is trying to sell?  It’s still on the market, and Rob has apparently hired Hilco Real Estate out of Illinois to move it for him.

The same outfit is working to sell Rob’s portion of the McKay Tract — a forested area south of Eureka where Earth First! is protesting development plans in spotted owl habitat. The activists are targeting an adjacent area owned by Green Diamond.

If you’re interested in either of these apparently hard-to-sell properties call Hilco at 847-714-1288.  Tell them Heraldo sent you.

  1. Rumbustious
    December 7, 2010 at 12:13 am

    I notice that the page on which these properties are offered says “Bank Sale”. Is that some sort of foreclosure? Also, you’ve all missed out on Rob’s lodge. The sealed bids were due October 21. Wonder if there were any takers.

  2. Schwingerkönig
    December 7, 2010 at 1:56 am

    What do these 4 properties have in common?

    No chance of making money in the next 3 year period. Raw land is not a great investment due to a lack of demand for finished units. Financing is not going to happen either.

    How is this news-worthy?

  3. Largo
    December 7, 2010 at 5:58 am

    “Comprehensive Real Estate Repositioning Services.” Realtors love to put on the dog, don’t they?

  4. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 7, 2010 at 7:28 am

    According to this morning’s TS, Security National is AGAIN trying to delay cleanup on the BT by appealing the decision affirming the Coastal Commission’s authority over the BT. There can be NO question now about just who is really delaying the cleanup. Randy, take a bow. Rob, you too.

    Maybe lawyers already on staff are cheaper than just getting the work done? Oh well. Gotta save a nickel where you can. At least they’ll have their ‘tax cuts for billionaires’ to help out.

  5. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 7, 2010 at 7:30 am

    Oh yeah, the hearing on this one will be “sometime in 2011”. The ‘Marina Center Now’ is now the ‘Marina Center Whenever’.

  6. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 7, 2010 at 7:35 am

    I have no idea what Blanche’s rant was about. Certainly not about Arkley’s properties?

  7. Bolithio
    December 7, 2010 at 7:38 am

    Earth First, LOL

    December 7, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Leave it to Heraldo to bring Earth First into the mix – have not seen that double word in over a decade as times must be slow or something.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  9. December 7, 2010 at 8:30 am

    Air laundry at https://www.craigslist.org/ Enter: Personals/Rant and Raves.

  10. High Finance
    December 7, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Oh boy, stop the presses!!! Robin Arkley is selling two of his properties !!

    This is relevant? Why?

  11. December 7, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Poor Jeff Lytle still struggles to navigate the internets.

  12. Eric Kirk
    December 7, 2010 at 9:09 am

    “I hate Illinois Nazis!”

    – Jim Belushi as Jake Elwood

    I don’t know why. The quote just flew into my head.

  13. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Why doesn’t HumCPR protest the McKay tract project as ruining the “rural” nature of Cutten?

  14. Up-Yours Hi-Fi
    December 7, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Hey Hi-Fi-I see that you will be on Frank Jager’s selection committee for his replacement. What a great diverse panel-Marc Matteoli, Polly Endert, Satan, Bill O’Reilly, and the dead animal that sits upon Cherie Arkley’s head! We sure are in good hands!

  15. Anon
    December 7, 2010 at 9:52 am

    “Why doesn’t HumCPR protest the McKay tract project as ruining the “rural” nature of Cutten?”

    Perhaps because there is no McKay tract project.

    The Forster-Gil project on the other hand,is in Cutten and would profoundly and negativly change the not so rural nature of the area. It would also be a traffic disaster, have streets that are unsafe for children, create an unfair tax burden on Eureka, along with a slew of sewer and water problems. Maybe that’s why HumCPR has advocated against the project and maybe also why the only continuing Supervisor who supports it is Mark Lovelace who lives far enough away that he won’t have to deal with the catastrophe he is helping to create. The bigger question is why Jimmy Smith who reports to the Cutten area continues to support and pander to Lovelace. At some point the people of Cutten will get fed up with wishy washy lack of action and Jimmy’s backing of the guy who wants to destroy their neighborhood.

  16. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 10:13 am

    High Finance is Marc Matteoli?

  17. Ditto
    December 7, 2010 at 10:46 am

    The McKay tract project is WHY the good ole boy developers are opposed to Forster-Gill. They plan on subdividing for MILES along Walnut Drive.

  18. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 10:51 am

    For those who think Cutten is “rural” (e.g. HumCPR) or even “not so rural” – go take a walk around Lundbar Hills (Lundblade Drive etc.) or scoop the loop around ridgewood.

    The site of the proposed Ridgewood Heights development may currently be cut-over forestland, but it is currently zoned for 940 single family houses – and this could be done without any public notification or involvement. The proposed development may not be perfect, but at least we (as the public) can see what is proposed and attempt to make it better.

    It seems the project naysayers leave out the fact that several hundred acres would be set aside as a community forest with hiking trails.

  19. Blanche
    December 7, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Please delete the post that came from the MIRROR. It was that pesky paste feature that messed up. Totally unrelated to the post there. Thanks.

  20. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 10:59 am

    Your laundry be very dirty Ms. Blanche

  21. straight up
    December 7, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Check your facts. The “community forest” proposed is useless, almost vertical land and gullies unsuitable for hiking unless you’re a goat.

  22. December 7, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Earth First! is still defending a rare stand of 120+ year old 2nd growth Redwoods in the McKay Tract. This wildlife refuge in the McKay is home to Northern Spotted Owls who have continued to reproduce thanks to us keeping their grove standing. If we had not been here for the last 2 years, Green Diamond would have mowed this forest down. So much for Forest Practice Rules and the Endangered Species Act when big corporations can get a permit to destroy occupied habitat of endangered species.

    Care to share the joke Bolithio?

  23. Frank Drinkard
    December 7, 2010 at 11:49 am

    I wonder if HumCPR would support a regional community forest to preserve the rural character of areas around Humboldt Bay, particularly in the Cutten area? I believe that both Arkley and Green Diamond have had plans to subdivide areas of the McKay tract for residential development. Clearly HumCPR need to be consistent in supporting the rural characteristic of our communities!

  24. Anon
    December 7, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    As a HumCPR member I would strongly support a regional community forest. Large open tracts available for public use are huge assets to those who choose to live in our cities. Not your point but kind of like the pre Maxxam and timber war days when large owners allowed hikers, bikers, scouts, hunters, clubs, and anyone else to freely enjoy their lands without fear of lawsuits. Our forests are arguably healthier with regulation but the public lost access.

    The real point is that community forests are great, the catch is that they should be purchased not stolen. Artifically depressing land values by taking away rights so that a community forest can be purchased on the cheap is just as wrong as rampant and unregulated subdivision. Therein lies a principal difference between HumCPR and Healthy Humboldt. Same goal different tactic. Course HumCPR probably also doesn’t think the community forest should start in Marin and end at the Oregon border. Details.

  25. Frank Drinkard
    December 7, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    I wouldn’t cloud the creation of a community forest with your opinion of a Healthy Humboldt. While Healthy Humboldt might support a community forest, i believe most of the residents of Eureka and Cutten would as well. Particularly, if the the community forest is revenue generating like the Arcata CF. Also, what do you mean artificially depressing land values? Generally all municipal land acquisitions require an appraisal which is usually based on a fair market price.

  26. Tea Party Ted
    December 7, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    I’d be curious to see what other HumCPR members think about a Cutten community forest?

  27. Anon
    December 7, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    True, public acqusitions are based on appraisals but if you remove existing property rights then the appraisal and value gets lower because part of a parcels value is based on what you are allowed to do with it. Take away a use, take away some value.

    I also agree that most of the public would like the idea of community forests in the sense of an oversized, self sufficient, park. I think interest wanes if they get too big. Where the line is, who knows, but it should be clearly drawn in advance.

  28. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    “Artifically depressing land values by taking away rights” – Isn’t that what HumCPR is trying to do the Ridgewood Heights developers?

  29. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    What you think is a “right” and what is a “right” may be two different things.

  30. Frank Drinkard
    December 7, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    I’m not sure of the zoning on the Arkley parcel, but the Green Diamond parcels are likely TPZ. I believe that GD was wanting to develop areas near Arkelys parcel. In order to do that they would have to rezone to residential. Surely HumCPR and the Buckeye Conservancy would not support rezoning resource lands for houses. OR would they….?
    Also, what are you basing your comment on about “interest waning if a community forest gets to big”? Is Arcata’s CF to big?

  31. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    ““Artifically depressing land values by taking away rights” – Isn’t that what HumCPR is trying to do the Ridgewood Heights developers?”

    Forster Gill is applying to develop more than current zoning allows. Seems like the HumCPR position is not taking rights away, just not giving them more than they are currently entitled to. HumCPR appears to be saying that current entitlements are one thing but the developers shouldn’t allowed to run amok. Seems pretty well reasoned. Maybe that’s why they have so many members.

  32. Bolithio
    December 7, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Earth First is the joke Farmer.

    Keep defending that second growth! lol

    BTW, for those of you who dont know: what is NSO habitat? Entry level NSO habitat is an average of 11″ diameter trees and 40% canopy closure. Take a walk in any forest around here. Most canopy is 80%+. In other words, most forest is NSO habitat, along with the other half dozen species of(less important?)owls.

    What will be the stance of Earth First! when CA’s population is 65 million people in 2100? Suicide?

  33. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Eric, It was Joliet Jake , played by John Belushi his brother was Elwood. Thanks for making my day.

  34. Steak n Eggs
    December 7, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Bolithio…too funny. Its Green Diamonds turn to babysit the tree sitters until EF! manufactures something more meaningful for their immature and clueless sheep to protest. Its like an angry child locking himself in his room. Don’t underestimate the value of a good laugh!

  35. anon1
    December 7, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    We Should just take those properties to help pay the money back that his Bank owes!!

  36. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 7, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    And just how does all of this relate to Arkley’s liquidation sale?

    BTW the Gaxiola Volvo has been amazingly prominent at the Arkley household recently. Note that Sue Gaxiola is on Jager’s appointment committee. But Cheri and Sue would never discuss such things, would they?

    December 7, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Heraldo says:
    December 7, 2010 at 8:58 am
    Poor Jeff Lytle still struggles to navigate the internets.

    Gee, if there was any newsworthy advertising of such issues by Earth First, then maybe they would have less money to survive as an entity. Apparantly, quiet news must be non-important news, unless more money exists…..

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  38. December 7, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    English must be a complicated undertaking by corrupt backroom slow news days otherwise it would be easy to figure out why Jeff is yanking on his hair ropes.

  39. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Sounds like 5.53 pm is stalking the Arkleys.

  40. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    So HumCPR is in favor of a 950 house development in Cutten?

  41. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    5:53 maybe Cherie is getting help decorating her tree.

  42. High Finance
    December 8, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Mouse, do you know what a “liquidation sale” is?

  43. Lonesome in Folsom
    December 8, 2010 at 10:22 am

    It seems to me the whole point of this post is the fact that Arkley, a longtime seller of hard to sell real estate, has decided to pay another firm to sell these assets. That speaks volume about either the properties or his lack of confidence in his own staff.

  44. High Finance
    December 8, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Which means nothing other than that it is harder to sell properties in this recession.

    Geesh, you guys are really obsessed about all things RA!

  45. Lonesome in Folsom
    December 8, 2010 at 11:20 am

    That Arkley might not have confidence in his own sales staff means something.

  46. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Mr A often goes outside the company for remote properties, properties where no staff are located or are difficult to get to, unusual situations, and those which are not like their usual sales, like for land without houses.

  47. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Hey Matteoli, how is the local housing maker these days?

  48. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    Let’s all hope Mr A sells those properties. The financial health of his company may depend upon that. Financial health = keeping employees, paying debts and so forth. All things that benefit others whether you like Arkley or not.

  49. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    Hey Lonesome – I think Mr A has a long history of not having confidence in his staff when things aren’t going so well. This is less of a reflection on his staff than on his state of mind. He is well-known to be a player of the blame game.

  50. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Could HiFi really be Matteoli? I don’t see that – would be very surprised. Could he possibly have that much time to devote to posting? Slight maybe???

  51. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Hi Fi is not Matteoli.

  52. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 7:14 am

    Mr A does give blame to everyone around him. He listens to one person at a time, a chosen one, then blames anyone that person doesn’t like or sees as a threat. Then, when that person wears thin, that person is also blamed and a new favorite adviser is tapped. It’s interesting to watch! It is not rational, and Mr A has let go of some good and bad people, throws the baby out with the bathwater. His closest associates and those who would never hurt him are often hurt by his large sword, which has no knowledge of who to trust. He would have had a better reputation if he had not abused those who remained loyal.

  53. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    How would you know Mr 7.14am ?

  54. Lonesome in Folsom
    December 9, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    7:14 nailed it! Musta worked for the guy cause I did and couldn’t have said better myself
    The one exception was Jack Mendheim whom hung on for like 20 years in an important role and was never better than mediocre. Everyone but Rob knew it too.

  55. Farmer
    December 10, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Bolithio, you accuse environmentalists of attacking logging companies out of ignorance and hatred, and yet that is exactly how you react to me.

    Your factoid-

    Entry level NSO habitat is an average of 11″ diameter trees and 40% canopy closure. Take a walk in any forest around here. Most canopy is 80%+. In other words, most forest is NSO habitat, along with the other half dozen species of(less important?)owls.

    So all homogenous stands “around here” where the trees are less than a foot wide is Northern Spotted Owl habitat? Even if this broad generalization was true, it would not negate the fact that we are defending a pair of owls on the endangered species list that are successfully reproducing. That is just one of the manifold reasons to defend this stand.

    Steve Sillet speaking about
    a similar grove

    “This forest type is actually quite rare these days in Humboldt County, as nearly all of the redwood forests logged prior to the 1930s have been logged again,” Sillett wrote. “Today, mature second-growth redwood forests are far more scarce than even old-growth redwood forests. I estimate there are fewer than a few hundred acres of such forest left in all of Humboldt County.” He added it would be unwise to remove even half an acre…

    Yes, 120 year old second growth Redwood groves are worth defending. Clear-cutting is not. Within our lifetimes, we could conceivably watch these trees further develop into something that closely resembles the old-growth forests we have lost to the greed and ignorance of our predecessors. You can’t say the same for your clear-cuts. Nor do you seem to give a —-.

    What will be the stance of Earth First! when CA’s population is 65 million people in 2100? Suicide?

    Don’t be an idiot.

  56. Farmer
    December 10, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    To be accurate, instead of writing “less than a foot wide” I should have just quoted your ‘average of 11 inch diameter’.

  57. Bolithio
    December 10, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    I believe there are serious environmental issues facing humanity. Logging second growth redwood stands is not one of them. In my mind, 120 years is not significant in terms of ecology. The redwoods have a few solid hundred thousand years under their belt. I money is on them in the long run.

    So all homogenous stands “around here” where the trees are less than a foot wide is Northern Spotted Owl habitat?

    No. But it represents a significant component of their habitat requirements. In redwood, once the stand is at that point (10″ DBH 40%+ canopy) you are not that far off from nesting, (14″ DBH 65%+ canopy).

    [very loose habitat requirements here, we can nerd out if you want, but…]

    My point is looking at the landscape as a whole, there is a constant change in the forests over time. Non-habitat (clear-cuts) become foraging, foraging becomes nesting. I do understand the argument that very few stands are “allowed” to move beyond mature into more late seral conditions.

    On industrial lands however, this is appropriate. We need a place to reasonably extract resources for man. If not, well you get South American or Canadian logging rules, err, no rules. (Where I think Earth First should anyways…) Defending a stand of trees on the most regulated land in the world does not necessarily lead to a superior environmental result. Remember, even with their HCPs, NSOs are most numerous on industrial ownerships. How can that be? Could it be the prey base constant because of clear cuts?

    One more thing. The clear cut battle is over here. Most people don’t do it any more. Those who do are limited to 40 acres. Oregon still routinely clear cuts 100 acre blocks. Canada doubles that. The writing is on the wall for Green Diamond. After another decade or so when HRC proves that competitive multi-aged stands produce better quality wood, they will switch too.

  58. Bolithio
    December 10, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    And Farmer, I dont have hate. Nor do I accuse environmentalists of anything. Do you accuse all people in the timber industry of not giving a shit?

  59. Farmer
    December 13, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Do I accuse all people in the timber industry of not giving a shit about the negative effects of clear-cutting?

    No, and I said you seem to not give a shit, meaning that your attitude implies that you believe we don’t need to increase the amount of late-seral/late successional stands.

    If a company, i.e. Green Diamond, clear-cuts every stand every time it reaches 45-50 years old, and you support this… well I think you get the picture.

  60. Farmer
    December 13, 2010 at 11:26 am

    I recognize that Green Diamond tried to set aside land for the owls as a trade off for take permits, but their HCP has failed to maintain the population. More than a few of those set asides didn’t have NSO’s in them at the time of the HCP creation and still don’t. Yet GD plans to go ahead and clear-cut groves where the owls are successfully nesting and breeding, like in the McKay.

  61. Sven
    December 13, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Schwingerkönig, it’s newsworthy as more proof that his companies aren’t local family philanthropists, but multimillion dollar national real estate moguls. It’s how they built their fortune, caring about the money not the people. Explicitly so, as they go after people who have already hit bottom and take as much as they can, then peddle it up the money chain.

    Like we’re really supposed to believe they think giving us even more mall jobs is what we want? Like they really think we’d rather have more buildings than protected forest?

  62. Unemployed
    December 13, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Hey, I want a mall job! Who the fuck cares about another protected forest when I am about to lose my house.

  63. Dwayne Montane
    December 13, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Sorry Unemployed, but many of us a struggling. Most of us care about our forested surroundings while we struggle. Unless you have a degree or background in forestry, i doubt you could find a job in the timber industry. Which means that your potential job will not depend on either a protected forest or a clear cut forest. Regardless, good luck!

  64. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 14, 2010 at 7:29 am

    Unemployed, good luck at $8/hr for 22 hours/week, standard for Home Despot. I guess food stamps could help.

  65. Bolithio
    December 14, 2010 at 8:15 am

    Farmer, just so you understand me better, its not that I dont think that late-seral/late successional stands should be promoted. Its just that I think there should be areas where they are not. Areas such as industrial timberlands, rural residential areas, etc…. The state parks have had thousands of acres donated to them in the last decade. These areas, and countless other stands in USFS LSRs, are indeed headed towards maturity and eventually late succession. So it may be true that in this snapshot of time 125-200 year old stands are rare. It is also true that 70-100 year old stands are much more common and many of them are sitting in park – no cut situations. Just remember, time is on the trees’ side.

  66. Sven
    December 14, 2010 at 8:46 am

    Unemployed @ 9:51, every single mall in america is hiring right now, at just about every level. You’re a lying turd.

  67. Anonymous
    December 14, 2010 at 11:45 am

    I thought liberals were supposed to be compassionate, caring, heart on their sleeve types. At least that is what they tell us all the time. Instead they sound like cold hearted bastards to me.

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