Let the games begin

New City Council members in the City of Eureka were sworn into office Tuesday night.

Mayor Frank Jager.

Councilwoman Marian Brady.

Councilman Mike Newman.

Councilman Lance Madsen.

The first order of business for the new council appears to be an attack on the purchase of Jefferson School, which was unanimously agreed upon by the last Council.  Councilwoman Linda Atkins, the only hold-over from the last council, signaled opposition to a change of direction.

“If this is the way it’s going to work, you will hear me objecting,” she said.  Atkins said she didn’t understand the delay of the purchase. “I could buy four houses in the time this has been in escrow.”

Supporters of the purchase would be wise to prepare for the December 21st meeting where the issue will be brought up for action by the new council which is clearly opposed to the project.

UPDATE: The move to keep Dave Tyson as city manager despite his resignation and the city’s hiring of a firm to find a replacement is also underway.  Former Mayor Virginia Bass spoke during public comment to support retention of the city manager.  Tyson is at the center of a major lawsuit settlement by the city after he failed to uncover and stop an internal campaign of harassment between employees in the Eureka Police Department.

  1. anon
    December 7, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    let’s go! no more hiding behind RA’s skirt…..

  2. December 7, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Lance Madsen is the new Mayor Pro Tem. “Unopposed yet again” notes Mayor Jager.

  3. Anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    The Jefferson school purchase was a damn stupid idea. But to back out now may cause lawsuits and they could lose their $200,000 deposit.

  4. Dont be fooled again
    December 7, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    What is with the sound at the podium?

  5. December 7, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    It’s sadly typical.

  6. anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    It was also sadly typical that Larry Glass was a no show. He could have proved he has some class, but alas now we all know he has none.

  7. December 7, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Tell it to Jager, who said tonight that no one has worked harder for the people he represented than Larry.

  8. mresquan
    December 7, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Perhaps 12 years down the road they may draw a conclusion that meetings could be live streamed as well.And when that happens,us bloggers who can’t generally make it to meetings will get to hear the action live about what excuses are made for the failure of the development of the Marina Center.

  9. December 7, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    What happened to Marina Center Now?

  10. Anon
    December 7, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    mresquan:

    The same will be said about Truckee

  11. anonymous
    December 7, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    The Jefferson School purchase is a very good idea. Did you read the “My Word” column by Heidi B. last week? The organizations that want to be there and incubator businesses that will start there are truly exciting! This is where our job creation and small businesses begin. The people driving the development of Jefferson School and the fact that we now have a police force that actually talks before they shoot are the only 2 good things going for Eureka right now. If I had to do it again, I wouldn’t move here. We’re the only town in Humboldt County losing population and I can understand why. And then Bass has the audacity to want Tyson back? What a laughingstock!
    The people that have been elected because the progressives can’t get their act together will hasten the regression of Eureka.
    I’ve gone out of my way to buy everything in Eureka – no more. It’s online or Arcata now. The sooner this town falls the better and I hope the people of Eureka will see (though I have my doubts) that the people who’ve been in power and continue to be in power are the cause.
    Am I angry? You’re damn right. For the potential this town has, it’s really a backwater in shambles.

  12. Osprey
    December 7, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    The Marina Center will never be built b/c RA will never clean-up the property without the assurance that he can build something and the Coastal Commission will NEVER give him any assurance of that—no matter who the NC rep ends up being. wetlands people!!

    The biggest clue to that is Citizen’s for (Rob’s way) a Better Eureka hopelessly appealing the Coastal Comm’s jurisdiction. The Pacific Legal Foundation has NEVER won one of those challenges…..that will be Rob’s barometer…..meaning he’ll keep putting off the clean-up and blame it on Baykeeper. classic.

  13. mayfly
    December 7, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Sad night for Eurekans.

  14. Truth in information
    December 7, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    It just shows how fickle government is. No wonder the public is fed up with the process that allows decisions to be made and unmade with a flip of the switch. In four more years the switch will be in the other position and this “bunch” will be bemoaning the fact that all their good deeds and decisions will be reversed. Next they will rewrite the bill of rights. Oh-they are already doing it. People like the stability of knowing that decisions will be adhered to even if it was the last government that made the rule. We currently live in a house built on sand, or should I say, a fault line. This current “bunch” is really going to show us some snake like moves and reshuffle the cards. The king of hearts will keep his office and all will be peaceful at city hall again. Some Christmas present.

  15. The Monitor
    December 7, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Just out of curiosity Heraldo, was Jones or Leonard at the meeting? Someone mentioned that Glass wasn’t there, just wondering if there are rules here that we don’t know about? If so, how many meetings must an outgoing council member attend to fulfill the obligation?

  16. December 7, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Forward into the past.

  17. 69er
    December 7, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    I say, “sour grapes”.

  18. December 7, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Jones and Leonard were both at the meeting.

  19. Heidi
    December 7, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Oh my that was in your face I felt like we had a shotgun leveled at our bellies, after 21/2 years of working with the city in good faith, with architects, engineers, interviewing tenants, meeting, planning, fundraising, reviewing grant apps, working with the community action agency, and with city staff, to have a change of guard have such disregard for a community effort is at LEAST bad Karma.
    For god sake this has taken so long GOOD tenants i.e. northcoast childrens services have had no choice but to go somewhere else. I still firmly believe that the answer is to all do our very best always and do the next right thing in front of us, be honest prudent and wise and we will wind up living in a better world as a result. But this has been the hardest “good” thing for a community I have ever been involved with, because it is so unclear and has taken so long, We have sat on grant money since last March with an assumption that we would have access to the property by the end of the school year (it couldn’t take that long Last school year!). We were conscientious enough to wait until the city had site control before we cashed in the grant (that is the one thing we did have control over) because we want to protect our local benefactors. I had a foundation contact me last week and offer $100,000 to the Westside Community Group to start fundraising to buy the building. He said you raise the 5 I’ll give give you one and wrote a letter pledging just that. He asked are you tired of being jacked around yet? You got a partner that is either unwilling or unable to work with you and they just won’t tell you so. This is from someone outside looking in.
    Here is the sad part. This should be a city project, this should be city property, it was purchase once through assessment money by property owners in Eureka, it is Zone Public Use and should be Preserved for Public use, you will never get that site back! And for all this bullshiT “you don’t have a plan” all we have is plans, we have a plan A , grant funded ,a plan B part grant part traditional, we have a plan C fully traditional, all the numbers, we have interested tenants that haven’t gone away yet, so many such that one tenant may have to sublease to others. We have been either stonewalled by an impossible process or intentionally, I suspect the first. But now it sure looks like these new council members have another deal cooking.
    Margaret “never doubt a group of committed citizens” Mead never lived in Eureka!
    If you want to help this community effort, call me, I am in the book.

  20. Mad as hell
    December 8, 2010 at 12:09 am

    Yes, it appears the main motivation to kill the Jefferson School deal is coming from the Brady Bunch’s irrational hatred of Larry Glass and his support for an empowered, activist Eureka citizenry. The one which Matthew Owen referred to as “those people.”

    It appears the Brady Bunch are more than happy to cut off their noses to spite their face. When they re-hire Tyson, their next move will be to put Garr Nielsen in their sights, because he represents sanity and progressive, community-oriented policing. Anything that smacks as having been a step forward in the last five years, the Brady Bunch is intent on undoing as fast and vindictively as they can. Watch them take us back to the days of five police-involved shootings of Eureka citizens in two and a half years, and more expensive, embarrassing Tyson-linked scandals.

    Sad. Really sad.

  21. December 8, 2010 at 12:13 am

    At one of the meetings with the Jefferson School Committee at City Hall, after North Coast Children Services dropped out, I remember Marian Brady and Mike Newman showing up way late because they were attending a fundraiser for their respective campaigns. They arrived obviously inebriated and Brady, at least, without even investigating the context of the meeting, assumed that the entire debacle was ridiculous because the residents were apprehensive to CR acquiring the property. There’s your next city council for ya.

  22. anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Marian Brady worries about the money to develop something beneficial for our city but doesn’t say a word about the money we’re being forced to pay for Tyson screwing up. Why do the people of Eureka keep electing these hypocrites??????

  23. December 8, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Dave Tyson alone has cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars. If there were any logic in the city council, its members would be demanding his resignation. But unfortunately, Eureka doesn’t operate on logic. The punitive damage from Tyson’s actions alone could have funded at least one or two police officers or partly the zoo.

  24. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 5:19 am

    Sour grapes for sure…what a bunch of cry babies…

    The people spoke at the last election. Mr know it
    all Glass was told what the people think of his
    opinion. I look forward to a great four years. Now
    if they can just get rid of Linda. She is the new
    Larry Glass. Thinks she knows it all and will continue
    to spend, spend, spend. SOS!

  25. Barb Leonard
    December 8, 2010 at 7:08 am

    Monitor.

    Of course, Jones and Leonard were at the meeting. It’s tradition that all out-going city councilmembers attend. It’a a rather big deal. The meeting is convened, each out-going member has an opportunity to make comments and welcome the newly elected. The new mayor and council members are sworn in. After the new people take their seats the meeting is adjourned for a special reception for both the out-going and in coming. Members of the public and city staff are all there.

    So, it was rather sad to see Larry Glass not in attendance. In fact, they delayed things for 15 minutes in hopes he would show up. Never, that I am aware of, has any sitting council member or mayor failed to attend this particular meeting regardless of their standing: unseated, or termed out.

    Mary Beth was there to congratulate Larry when she lost her bid for re- election. The same for Polly Endert and Peter LaValley, so there is no excuse for blowing it off.

    It was extremely poor form on Larry’s part and could indicate exactly what he will be doing to follow up with the projects he was working on: nothing!!

    Pretty disappointing, really.

  26. Largo
    December 8, 2010 at 7:24 am

    As if Larry’s tenure on the council won’t be remembered for the hard work he did and his dedication to constituents. He’ll be remembered for not showing up at a party.

  27. December 8, 2010 at 7:32 am

    Barb, have you ever worked in retail during the Christmas shopping season? Give me a break.

  28. anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 7:33 am

    Ms. Leonard,
    Marian Brady’s campaign literature was based on half truths and lies about Larry Glass’s tenure on the council. Maybe he’s breaking tradition (get over yourself for god’s sake) in this stinking town and it’s about time someone does because this town certainly hasn’t prospered under you traditionalists. The pulp mill is gone but the stench is stronger than ever.

  29. December 8, 2010 at 7:48 am

    Barb, the meeting started on time, not 15 minutes late. What a silly thing to lie about.

  30. Barb Leonard
    December 8, 2010 at 8:01 am

    It was to start at 5:00. It started at 5:15. (maybe 5:13) No lie. I was there. Were you? I know the delay because we had two pretty restless kids and were hoping it would start on time. We were clock watching and waiting for Larry to arrive.

    So, what meeting are you talking about starting on time?

  31. Barb Leonard
    December 8, 2010 at 8:05 am

    Carol: Yes indeed we have worked retail during the holiday season. Larry has employees and it would have been about 30 minutes of his time if he didn’t stick around for the reception.

    That particular meeting is designed to allow out-going members to thank people who have supported them and congratulate the new members.

    No matter how you spin it, there is no excuse for not showing.

  32. December 8, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Carol-people download music nowadays,they don’t pay $8.99 for a ten year old used cd,I’m willing to bet the ‘christmas shopping season’ was not the reason.Dont get me wrong brady scares the hell out of me being on the council but Larry should have shown up and bitchslapped newwwwwman at the least

  33. Barb Leonard
    December 8, 2010 at 8:12 am

    anonymous 7:13

    Perhaps you should either move or get over yourself.

    Bad form is bad form. Unless, of course, you are a boob and think bad form is okay.

    It would have been nice if Larry had at least called and told staff he wouldn’t be there. I don’t know if Linda knew. I didn’t ask her. We talked about grandchildren instead of politics.
    ;-D

  34. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Carol, lets see if i got this correct. Your suggesting
    that Larry had to work and couldn’t take off to go to
    the Council meeting? Now didn’t he just do four years of council meetings? I believe he had a few Christmas shopping seasons during those four years. Get a clue,
    Larry showed his true colors last night.

  35. December 8, 2010 at 8:22 am

    The meeting started no later than 5:03. That’s early even by regular meeting standards. Barb is either lying or she was overly excited when she changed her clock after Daylight Savings ended.

  36. December 8, 2010 at 8:25 am

    Polly Endert was also a no-show for her last meeting. You’re on a roll, Barb.

  37. High Finance
    December 8, 2010 at 8:27 am

    Carol, that was the lamest attempt at an excuse.

    And Heraldo, Barb was right they did wait 15 minutes for Larry. That was yet another silly mistake for you to make. Do you want to apologize to her?

  38. December 8, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Sorry, Brady Bunchers, the meeting started on time. You are shamelessly lying about it starting 15 minutes late.

    The 5:00 meeting took about 40 minutes, after which they adjourned for about 20 minutes until 6:00. Frank was confused and tried to launch directly into the 6:00 meeting 20 minutes early and had to be reminded — twice — by Tyson that they had to adjourn until 6:00.

    It’s going to be a ridiculous four years.

  39. December 8, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Now
    if they can just get rid of Linda. She is the new
    Larry Glass. Thinks she knows it all and will continue
    to spend, spend, spend.

    More bullshit. Linda spoke against unnecessary spending of Eureka’s non-existent funds by changing course and keeping Tyson after the city has already shelled out money to an outside firm to find a replacement.

  40. Lodgepole
    December 8, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Heraldo , just owning the right wingers this morning.

  41. anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Bad form, Ms. Leonard? Who made you Miss Manners?
    Let’s talk about bad form. Let’s talk about the obscene amounts of money donated to and spent by these candidates. Let’s talk about the lies and half truths in their campaign literature. Let’s talk about 3 new council members starting to undo the decision made unanimously by our previous council regarding Jefferson School. Let’s talk about our former mayor voicing support for our city manager who has cost this city at least $200,000 because he didn’t do his job. Let’s talk about Eureka’s unemployment (second only to Rio Dell) when we’re the county seat. Let’s talk about why no businesses want to locate here but they sure love Arcata – that Commie Moscow on the hill! Again, Eureka under you traditionalists is truly “bad form”. And, no, I’m not gonna move. There’s something about hitting rock bottom that wakes people up. I’m hoping that’ll happen now and I want to be part of the movement to start a new tradition.

  42. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 9:04 am

    FILTH, CORRUPTION, BACK DOOR DEALS, WINK AND A NOD, BEND THE FUCK OVER

  43. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 9:11 am

    Eureka 2014:
    Balloon Track – the ugly cyclone fence is falling apart after SN put the site up for sale, nothing has been done with the site.
    Jefferson School – more broken windows, mold continues to grow. The site sits idle; all neighborhood initiatives have been abandoned. CR has long since spent its bond money elsewhere.
    Unemployment – Eureka’s rate is now higher than Rio Dell since more retail has gone online; The Works and Borders are distant memories.
    The outgoing city council (including two new members of the “Brady Bunch”) gives Tyson a pay raise and show up to welcome the new (jobs oriented) city council, because that’s the classy thing to do.

  44. anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Tyson’s new contract needs to include:

    1) His pledge to read “Sexual Harassment for Dummies”
    2) A chastity belt
    3) A schedule of upcoming AA meeting times & locations.

  45. Up-Yours Barb Leonard
    December 8, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Barbie loves to spread lies-just check her posts over the last month-distractions, lies, distractions, lies, some more lies, and then a little distraction! It must be nice to never be responsible for the lies being told-look forward to the same behavior for the next four years!

  46. High Finance
    December 8, 2010 at 10:35 am

    8.54am is right. I am outraged by the obscene amounts that bill pierson gave to many candidates. This has got to stop! The lies that larry glass spewed was maddening, he was not the one responsible for POP and he and kuhnel both lied about not being opposed to the Marina Center.

  47. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 10:47 am

    Everytime someone uses the slang term “bitchslap” they are normalizing violence against women in the mind of our society. For shame!

  48. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 10:48 am

    High Finance-

    Can you tell me what the PLF/Citizens for a Better Eureka lawsuit/appeal is trying to prove? Is it arguing the the BT is not in the Coastal Zone? Or is it arguing that the Coastal Commission should not have the power to review projects in the Coastal Zone, notably the BT parcels?

    I just don’t understand the appeal here.

  49. ChumBolly
    December 8, 2010 at 10:51 am

    Was Newman as drunk last night as he was on election night? The thought that Brady will now represent my ward is almost laughable, if it weren’t so tragic.

  50. Reality Check
    December 8, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Hey Marc Matteoli-Hi-Fi-what about the obscene amount of money that Rob Arkley put into the campaigns of Marian Brady, Mike Newman, and Virginia Bass. Where did those signs come from? You can keep using Bill Pierson as your scape goat, but denying that Rob Arkley pulled more financial strings in this election is juvenile at best.

  51. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 11:30 am

    Larry Glass, Bonnie Neely, Gone! Kuhnel-no thanks.
    The people of Eureka/Humboldt are waking up. They’re
    tired of the SOS. Always trying to protect Pierson
    and even Larry’s business. The people want free
    competition. Let the people decide who they want to buy from. If they dont support a business then that’s
    the way it goes. Thank you voters for making good
    voting decisions.

  52. High Finance
    December 8, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Last I heard, Reality Check, RA had put in next to nothing in the Brady/Newman & Bass campaigns.

    But I would be interested in some facts from you for a change. How much did he contribute? And then you might list how much Pierson put in Glass/Kuhnel and Bonnie’s campaigns as well.

    Let’s compare the amounts shall we?

  53. December 8, 2010 at 11:59 am

    Anonymous 10:47- How sexist of you,shame shame. Most ‘bitches’ in this world are not women,believe that…..
    BTW- I hope you chastise anyone ever using the term ‘rule of thumb’ as well

  54. by the numbers
    December 8, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    HiFi, How is it that you seem to know exactly what Pierson spent compared to Arkley ? Are you related to
    anyone in either company or you just guessing?

  55. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 8, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Hey, I don’t know who HiFi is (though some people do) but he really is a new-age Republican. By that I mean someone who can only say NO, caters only to the wealthy, doesn’t really give a damn about the poor or underemployed, and thinks he’s brilliant because he can try to poke holes in everyone else’s dreams.
    He represents a totally negative position and then has the audacity to blame his negativity on everyone else.
    This is the kind of person who would support euthanizing ALL the dogs at the shelter to save money and because “no one wants them anyway”. He’d be happy to build a giant big box store in YOUR backyard because it won’t be near him (her?).

    There are so many ways to be positive and to try to actually improve people’s lives around here. But he wouldn’t recognize them if the jumped up and bit him/her. His gloomy persona is too much to bear. I will no longer respond to his lies and misrepresentations.

  56. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 8, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Back on track, Newman and Brady’s shot at the Jefferson School project is likely to earn them some implacable enemies if they torpedoe the project. Right now it’s principals seem willing to work with the city to get things done. What is the matter with these people? They’re offered a gift-horse by the project organizers that can benefit the city in many ways. Yet they drag their feet and kick their toes in the dirt. Would a slogan of “Jefferson School Now” help them get past it?

    And to Barb Leonard, Yes, I’d leave this town in a heartbeat if she wants to buy my house for what I think it’s worth. As school enrollment clearly shows, families have been doing just that for awhile now. Property values here have dropped as much or more than almost anywhere else in the county. Why do you suppose that is? Is it a result of overwhelming optimism that the new council can make things better?
    HA! Make me an offer. It’s a nice house.

  57. Ne'er-do-well
    December 8, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Do like I do Mouse, ignore the asshole and give him a GFY once in a while.

  58. anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Anonymous at 9:11
    This could all shake out that way but we can also call Heidi and offer support to make the Jefferson School project happen.
    We can get to work NOW and organize for the 2012 elections and in 2014 vote the last of the Brady Bunch out – if we don’t recall them first.
    It’s time Eureka progs stop thinking someone else will do the work for us, get off our fat asses, set our agenda and get to work.

  59. December 8, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    What kind of a town elects its coroner as Mayor?
    Never have liked Eureka.
    Great and undemocratic move on the supes part to appoint Corine Stromstad to the Hospital Board. A thoroughly stacked deck now (Judy G. should have gotten it (it was an IRV election….). And if one had been at their last meeting (though you’d not have known it from listening to the local news) just as many people or more (if you discount the Board itself) spoke in Judy’s favor and following the IRV count.
    “Personality differences” were not the problem, though Ed Smith acted an ass. Now we’ve got a Board that has probably signed notes of allegiance to that yuppie scum Jasper.
    The Board may be pleased, but I hear morale has never been lower on staff (those that are left).
    Bummer, I needed that hospital, may have to relocate.

  60. December 8, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Reality Check asked, “Where did those signs come from?”

    I think it would be more important to take note of how many yards those signs ended up on. A lot of them. Many more than I would of expected. Your politics may not be as popular in this town as you think.

  61. December 8, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Heraldo, I was at my last council meeting, not only did I stay and watch Linda be sworn in, I also congratulated her. I missed the first meeting in December because it was my husbands birthday. Check your facts before you speak.

  62. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    So then, Larry Glass is the only classless person to miss his last Eureka Council meeting since who?????

    Carol, this was a very angry person who made Eureka City staff miserable.

    Heraldo: You attacking Barb Leonard when she presented you with eye witnessing facts and you hiding behind your cloak shows a lot about you and your supporters.

  63. High Finance
    December 8, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    By the Numbers 12.27pm. Do you read the Times Standard? They had a short article, just before election day, about how Pierson gave $5,000 to Kuhnel & $5,000 to glass after the last reporting date.

    Sorry it is too much for you Mouse, 12.35pm, for me to poke holes in your more illogical or factually incorrect posts. You could respond like an adult and debate with facts or logic or you can respond like a child with hurt feelings.

    Ne-er’-do-Well 1.21pm. GFY. It is a shame that you feel so inadequate that you never debate but only attack.

  64. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 8, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Thanks, Ne’re-do-well. You’d think by now I’d learn to consider the source.

    HiFi, I have it on good authority that you should GFY.
    Have fun!

  65. December 8, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Thanks for clarifying, Polly.

  66. December 8, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Heraldo: You attacking Barb Leonard when she presented you with eye witnessing facts and you hiding behind your cloak shows a lot about you and your supporters

    Barb didn’t present any facts. She is lying about what time the meeting started. Apparently she doesn’t have any real complaints so she makes shit up.

  67. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Heraldo,
    Is it possible that B Leonard is not “lying”, but rather she remembers the 20 minute delay before the 6pm “regular” meeting and is confusing this late start with the 5pm “start”?
    I don’t agree with much of what she says (and her tone is very sanctimonious), but you and your blog usually give people the benefit of the doubt rather than jumping to the “liar liar, pants on fire” stage.

    It seems pretty obvious that Glass missed the meeting on purpose – big deal. …and Arkley doesn’t give out candy on Halloween, but I get on with my life.

  68. December 8, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    I would be more inclined to give Barb the benefit of the doubt if I hadn’t watched the swearing-in meeting, which started at 5. Maybe she has an excuse for saying the meeting was intentionally delayed 15 minutes to wait for Larry when it is absolutely not true. Her son Jeff was well into his final statements by 5:15, if not through with them already.

    Perhaps Barb is inflicted with the same confusion that stuck Marian Brady during composition of her campaign literature. Whatever the excuse, her statement is patently false.

  69. Question
    December 8, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Where did this new finance director come from? Who is he? There was no recruitment announced. Who hand chose him? Was there even a background check on someone who will be handling City funds? I would think with ex-police officers now on the Council, that they would have requested that before approving the position. Were they even informed that this was a person just plucked from where ever and placed in the position, no questions asked? I know most municipalities do recruitments and background checks, and yet here is Eureka, doing it its own way regardless of policy. What is the Eureka policy for hiring its top personnel? What oral board passed him?

  70. The Monitor
    December 8, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Hifi is sure off in never, never land again. There are plenty of lies and half truths in Eureka politics of late and 99.9% are coming from the egos of righties. Your delusions have made you think you have won the world. So now you get to be the leaders in the next chapter in our city’s and the country’s decline. Don’t get too puffed up now. Lead on, you have 4 years to show us you stuff.

  71. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Hi Question,

    The new Finance Director for Eureka comes from where I work, the City of Fortuna. He has been there for quite awhile, since about 7-8 years, I think. He is well thought of by the staff, council and the community at large, and many of us wonder if hi knows what he is stepping into.

    He is qualified though.

  72. December 8, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Thank you for your input. I feel more assured that he will be OK…however, my concern is in the recruitment process. It seems like all our new directors have been blessed in instead of earned in. that someONE has curried favor by placing their particular candidates in place, rather than going through the usual public avenue of public recruitment, selection board, and background investigation. I don’t want the City of Eureka to be compared to the City of Bell, with all its underhanded shinanigans. I want my City to be beyond reproach. So where does this selection fall? I am a citizen and voter, so I demand to know how this all falls into place. And I feel the rest of the Community is entitled to know.

  73. Reality Check
    December 8, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    It’s interesting that soft money in campaigns no longer has to be reported, and thus, RA appears to not have donated a single dollar to any campaign other than measure N. give me a fucking break!! Keep telling your lies and eventually you will believe them! Hi-Fi GFY!

  74. former city of eka
    December 8, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    It’s unfortunate that your assumptions are that a recruitment process did not happen; it most assuredly did. I believe the recruitment was done by Avery & associates.

  75. December 8, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Thank you “former city of eka”. That is very reassuring. However, wny did none of us see that recruitment that is otherwise distriuted to citywide personnel. I thin we all had friends that could have fit the bill.

  76. former city of eka
    December 8, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Recruitments typically go around to other governmental agencies, like cities, counties and special districts. I am certainly not trying be be insulting here, but just because you didn’t see the recruitment, does not mean that it is some kind of conspiracy.

    I also don’t know if we all have friends who necessarily could do the job, either. A larger city like eureka (larger than others in HumCo, at least) typically want a finance director to have prior governmental experience.

    I work for the county now, and they also tend to go for those with previous govt experience (but not always).

    I do agree with you though, that Eureka could certainly be more transparant.

  77. December 8, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Yes. I agree. the City should be more open to the citizens who elect them. It seems like we voted more for the Marina Center but not at all for the progress that has taken place. Where do we go with this now?

  78. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Hey H: so whats the takeaway from your dogmatic thread against Barb Leonard? Your right and she is wrong about the start of the meeting? Who the F cares? And Glass not showing speaks volumes about his true character doesn’t it!

  79. Walt
    December 8, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    “It seems like we voted more for the Marina Center but not at all for the progress that has taken place.”

    So how’s that hopey-changey thing goin’ for ya?

  80. December 8, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Barb’s false statements could have gone unanswered, but she was wrong and that was noted.

    Take what you want from it.

  81. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Some false statements are not worthy of dogma, unless your goal is to simply to point out an error. That’s my takeaway.

  82. December 8, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    I don’t know what you mean by dogma. Some lies are not worthy of standing uncorrected.

  83. mresquan
    December 8, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    anon wrote,”High Finance-

    Can you tell me what the PLF/Citizens for a Better Eureka lawsuit/appeal is trying to prove? Is it arguing the the BT is not in the Coastal Zone? Or is it arguing that the Coastal Commission should not have the power to review projects in the Coastal Zone, notably the BT parcels?

    I just don’t understand the appeal here.”

    You don’t understand it because there is no plan at this point to in regards to the Marina Center,so CUE VI’s game plan is to delay anything until something falls into place.The suit will be heard sometime next year…and then in 2012,well according to some the world might end,so no point gettin’ her done before that.

  84. The Monitor
    December 8, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    The progress that has take place is the federal court agreeing with Bay Keepers, saying that the balloon tract has to be cleaned up to California’s environmental standards. Then Rob can build his Taj Mahal. That is progress. I hope this little detail has not gone unnoticed by the “get it done now” crowd. I can hardly wait to see the push back on that sticky issue.
    To be sure, it changes their meaning of NOW.

  85. mayfly
    December 8, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    So where does Rex Bohn stand on the jefferson issue? And who is paying for the nightly telephone polling regarding voter approval for him?

  86. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    I was at the meeting Heraldo and I can most assuredly tell you that it started at about 5:13 on my watch. Perhaps your clock is off?

  87. December 8, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    My phone rang just as the meeting started, at 5:03. It’s not unusual for a regular meeting to start 7 or even 10 minutes late. This one started on time and was not postponed while the council scratched their head looking at their watches waiting for Larry.

    What are you going to do without Larry to blame all your problems on? You’re crying about being victims before the Brady Bunch is even sworn in.

  88. mresquan
    December 8, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    “What are you going to do without Larry to blame all your problems on?”

    Well they’ll still blame Larry,and Linda,and Baykeeper,and the Coastal Commission,and the political environment,and the Socialists,and the Mayans.

  89. tra
    December 8, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    “What are you going to do without Larry to blame all your problems on?”

    I think Anon@5:19am already answered that question:

    “I look forward to a great four years. Now
    if they can just get rid of Linda. She is the new
    Larry Glass. Thinks she knows it all and will continue
    to spend, spend, spend. SOS!”

    https://humboldtherald.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/let-the-games-begin/#comment-124401

    So, it’s official: Linda Atkins will now be to blame for any misfortunes that befall the City of Eureka.
    And, yes, somehow, magically, her one vote will allow her to “continue to spend, spend spend” with the other four council members helpless to stop the spending spree

    And why not? Apparently, she and Glass, with only two out of five votes were somehow able to “spend, spend, spend,” while Jager, Jones and Leonard, despite having three votes, were somehow powerless to stop them. She must be one powerful woman…no wonder Anon@5:19am is so scared of her!

  90. Anonymous
    December 8, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Too bad the city is so politically polarized – just as the country is on the national level. It’s so hard to accomplish anything and/or act in the best interest of the people when all that seems to be important are “politics.” Politics, whether personal, serving some esoteric doctrine or financially motivated…as opposed to doing what is best for the citizens, in theory, being served. This new City Council seems overly delighted with their power and will most likely have a heyday with the City these next few years.

  91. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 6:54 am

    You guys must be desperate. Attacking Barb on whether the meeting started at 5.03 or 5.13pm. Get a life !

  92. December 9, 2010 at 7:32 am

    Ms. Leonard wins the desperation award. It was her lie that started the discussion.

  93. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 9, 2010 at 7:49 am

    Maybe some legal-eagle can tell us, is CUE VI going to start the legally mandated cleanup BEFORE its appeal against the CC’s authority is heard? Or do we have to wait ANOTHER 12 months to clear that hurdle before any meaningful work starts? One thing is certain, no Marina Center Now will ever happen until the cleanup is done and RA’s lawyers get done playing games. Now who is stalling?

  94. Big Al
    December 9, 2010 at 8:00 am

    ready to welcome Wrecks Bone?
    new “Bunch” council going to retain Tyson?
    boy golly, look out Eureka!
    (and where’s my new Marina Center job???)

  95. High Finance
    December 9, 2010 at 8:56 am

    I can confidently predict the new city council will listen to the people and not worry about Heraldo & his bloggers.

    It will be fun watching you guys go crazy!

  96. December 9, 2010 at 9:08 am

    listen to the people

    You mean “some” of the people. They already have their minds made up about a number of issues regardless of the number of people who think differently. I’m sure you are confident they will listen to you, HiFi.

  97. Big Al
    December 9, 2010 at 9:13 am

    “listen to the people ”
    who’s people?
    It’s starting to look like class warfare in Eureka.
    The council should worry about what’s being said, here or anywhere else.

  98. Ne'er-do-well
    December 9, 2010 at 9:24 am

    HF: We’re commenters or posters, Heraldo is the blogger. Look it up on the Google. Now GFY!

    mresquan: You mentioned Socialists, thanks for including me!

  99. mresquan
    December 9, 2010 at 9:36 am

    hifi wrote,”I can confidently predict the new city council will listen to the people”

    So you are saying that the new council will demand that SN ditches its lawsuit which is stonewalling the progress of measure N,which passed with a 70% approval?

  100. Plain Jane
    December 9, 2010 at 10:03 am

    When pigs fly, Mresquan. The new council is probably already working on a plan to shift the cleanup costs onto the city because, after all, it’s for our benefit.

  101. skippy
    December 9, 2010 at 10:03 am

    Eureka has a new City council and we need to participate and work with this. My two cents?

    1. The sky is not going to fall. I suspect the City could actually become better through growth and new building/development if it’s encouraged and promoted properly. I welcome that.

    2. While not in favor of the Jefferson School project initially, the council voted to approve the purchase. I do not approve of a new council undoing the purchase and thereby setting a bad precedent… unless the sky is falling.

    3. Chief Nielsen has done a very fine job and should be retained.

    4. The City manager should not be retained if, indeed, he is culpable by costing the City hundreds of thousands of dollars in a settled lawsuit; in fact, he should be fired.

    5. The Marina Center will either be built or not, depending on the foundation it’s made for itself. It’s tenuous at best. I’d like to see both the development and clean-up done, well and properly. At this juncture no one is to blame other than the developer/owner himself for either it’s future success or failure.

    6. All citizens should be involved by attending both the Tuesday morning Board of Supervisors meetings and the evening Tuesday City Council meetings. I intend to try doing this– all or in part– as part of my civic duty. I encourage all of you to do the same, making this place a better place to live and work in– and by participating and working with what we have.

  102. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Hi Jane!

    Welcome back, I’ve missed you.

  103. Plain Jane
    December 9, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Thanks 10:06. I wish it was great to be home.

  104. Ne'er-do-well
    December 9, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Me too Jane. HF has been beyond himself with glee at the election outcome and just can’t help but keep reminding us how wonderful life will be with the three stooges plus one running things. He needs one of your doses of reality plus a GFY. Welcome back.

  105. December 9, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Can city council members be impeached? If tyson is brought back I would hope this is seriously considered

  106. mresquan
    December 9, 2010 at 11:42 am

    Prior to the election,the humboldt mirror blog,which Marian Brady was closely tied to,began a smear campaign alleging that Larry had an inappropriate sexual encounter with an underage girl.The claim was completely unsubstantiated and disgusting,and since the election that blog has not a word to say about their prior smear and a follow up.Just on that incident alone,I commend Larry for not showing up.I would have less respect for him if he did.

  107. High Finance
    December 9, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Yes Ne’er-do-well I have expressed my glee at the election outcome in Eureka. I can just imagine what you would have done if the left wing had won.

    I would listen to your protestations more often if you weren’t such a nasty little asshole of a “commentator”.

  108. Big Al
    December 9, 2010 at 11:54 am

    “Can city council members be impeached? If tyson is brought back I would hope this is seriously considered”

    I don’t think that would be cause for impeachment but
    you could stage a recall, no?

  109. Big Al
    December 9, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Hi Jane!

  110. by the numbers
    December 9, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Plain Jane returns……HiFi has been out of control and according to him you should believe everything you read…even in the (sub)Times-Standard. welcome back
    PJ and hifi…gfys

  111. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Hi Mresquan,

    What makes you think Marian Brady “was closely tied to” the disgusting mirror blog?

    I dont want us (humboldt county progressives) falling into the same trap that the mirror nastys have done, blaming people for unsubstantiated crap. If you have evidence, then great, lets bring it to light and hold her accountable, but if not,then what you say is a smear, just like the nastys did to Larry (though not as repugnant).

  112. anon1
    December 9, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    I wonder if hi/sly teaches all his children to think the same way..If something bad is gonna happen as long as its not happening to my family I don’t care.What a way to think. Larry is a saint!! who cares about ass kissing in front of everyone..Lying and acting like something hes not,isn’t Larry. robbie and his supporters like Marc are liars and thieves and only care about not being found about personal indiscretions..No different than Jimmy Swaggart or any other womanizer like David or manizer like Virgina..These people are all crazy and if they would really listen to themselves they wouldn’t believe it either.

  113. Ne'er-do-well
    December 9, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    I’m not that little HF. Now GFY.

  114. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Their are a couple of reasons why Anon1 remains anonymous.

  115. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Sounds like the same “Marc” I know. You may be right that he’s just another one of the “Good Ol’ Boy Liar and Thieves”. A friend of mine asked me to attend the paper-signing meeting with his “Realtor” after a willing buyer was found for his home, and I discovered that this Realtor didn’t even have a valid contract with my friend! OOPS.

    These schmucks wrap themselves in the Chamber, Rotary and church, sweeping each others stink under the rug, (even if it costs hundreds of thousands in the Hanson settlement), hoping, in the end, to personally benefit from developer control over politics. “We must have growth”, even if it means building more homes 80% of our citizens can’t afford!

    These idiots are doing just fine with their “growth”, it seems that every Realtor in town is operating a property management business on the side.

    There’s profit in unsustainable growth.

    For now.

  116. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Anon1 is mresquan. Right Konkler? Larry should have showed up. Only Councilperson since who to not leave office gracefully. I will not shop his store forever more. Please join me.

  117. tenth street dreamer
    December 9, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    This town’s political structure is so filled with anger and venomous tongues, the break down of city government may never recover. The infighting, lieing, and lack of moral quidence and leadership from the “PILLARS” of this community are astonishing. Eurekans can’t even manage a civil debate. Getting snarky over 15 minetes, how low can we go? This whole string is a snapshot of local low blows and slap shots. Thanks to you all for making Eureka a wonderful place to live.

  118. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Yeah, we’re “different” from everywhere else, somehow.

    We should mind our manners while the local highrollers keep their good-times going on the backs of working families and the poor, just like the last Gilded Age!?

    Americans still think there’s a middle class but its actually $2 trillion in outstanding credit card debt giving the appearance of prosperity! How else to explain the right-wing resurgence of politicians espousing trickle-down, free-market, voodoo economics while we’re in the midst of its failure?

    With the riots in Europe, you can smell the fear as the local good old boys and girls cling to power.

  119. anon1
    December 9, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    I can smell it too..In school we all learned to be good to each other and there are classes right now in all the local schools for everyone.. When they see bulling, for everyone to say its not OK and to help the people in need..O.K. LISTEN up!!! No more taking advantage of underprivileged people for financial gain and quit spending our hard earned money on worthless law suits and stupid wars, to steal our money..Or is that how people like arkley and hi/sly make money?

  120. tenth street dreamer
    December 9, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    We are a people at war with ourselves, glorying in taking down all opposition, belittling those we disagree with. It’s a war of words aimed at tearing opposers apart personally and politically. Vengeance and elitism is a receipt that will bring us all down to second place, or below. We are well on our way but don’t recognize it yet.
    Read what you have said here with a critical eye.

  121. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    You hypocrites complaining about the venomous nature of current day local politics make me laugh. You all are a big part of the problem.

  122. December 9, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Once the rioting starts for real, all of our illusions about freedom and liberty will vanish when the water-canons hit town.

  123. December 9, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Anon1 is mresquan. Right Konkler? Larry should have showed up. Only Councilperson since who to not leave office gracefully. I will not shop his store forever more. Please join me.

    Oh please. A Virginia campaigner suddenly changes their name to “Anonymous,” accuses another Anon of being mresquan (wrong, by the way) and then says he’s just now going to start a boycott of The Works?

    Sore fucking winner.

  124. Anonymous
    December 9, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    anon 7:38, I will, in fact, I’ve put CD’s on my Christmas shopping list.

  125. Walt
    December 10, 2010 at 7:13 am

    With the death of the middle class, centrist political positions have disappeared too. Obama and Blue Dog dinos are finding that out: the right hates the ground they walk on and the left feels betrayed. Nox Spews suggests killing Assange and our local Liptonoids are STILL intent on punishing Glass for opposing them. Invest in hate and anger. . .the market for peace and logic has tanked.

  126. Larry's Tailor
    December 10, 2010 at 8:30 am

    Larry couldn’t make the meeting because I didn’t finish adding another half a foot to his hip waders in time for him to make the meeting.
    This was after consulting with the Health Dept and determining that there was significant risk of exposure to unprocessed fecal material at the City Council hall.
    Though this same heady smell of success is like a drug to some, ecoli-logical monitoring of politicians should be required.

  127. Ne'er-do-well
    December 10, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Larry’s tailor will be the job creator that the new council ran on. I predict these waders will be much in demand, and he will have to add extra staff. Put me down for a pair. Can I pick em up when I get my Christmas cds at The Works?

  128. Big Al
    December 10, 2010 at 9:23 am

    The Works has gift certificates as well, give them to my kids as I am never sure what they will want to hear.

    hip waders may need to be replaced by scuba gear…

  129. High Finance
    December 10, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Oh Puhhhhleeessssee. Listening to your bullshit is bad enough, Never do well, without having to put up with your lame attempts at humor.

  130. tenth street dreamer
    December 10, 2010 at 9:34 am

    anon 9:37 If I am part of the problem, I am thankful I am on the right side of local issues. Don’t choke on your win just yet. Sign me up for a pair of waders. It is sure deep and the sewage plant can’t handle it. Get that marten slough station done soon. There for a while I thought the pulp mill had started up again, then saw the cloud was spewing from 531 K St.

  131. Plain Jane
    December 10, 2010 at 9:40 am

    GFY, HiFi. I thought it was hilarious. Put me down for a pair of waders as well.

  132. Anonymous
    December 10, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Hi FI, is that really you Marc Matteoli?

  133. Big Al
    December 10, 2010 at 9:50 am

    I think somebody pegged HiFI as somebody else…

  134. Ne'er-do-well
    December 10, 2010 at 9:58 am

    HiFi, these are bipartisan waders. You can wear em when your read my comments. See you down at The Works?

  135. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 10, 2010 at 10:00 am

    HF…GFY…underwater, if possible!

  136. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 10, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Smokemonster, Big Al is right. It wouldn’t be an impeachment, although I suppose legal charges could be filed if there was criminal behavior. The normal avenue would be a recall. Don’t worry. The rope is spooling out at a rapid pace. Soon enough it will come up short.

  137. Anonymous
    December 10, 2010 at 10:45 am

    Did anyone hear Larry Glass’ blistering interview with John Mathews on KSLUG? SLAM! gotta love him!

  138. Anonymous
    December 10, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Isn’t it odd how this town’s Marc Matteolies apologize for their job-creation God(development community)even as it causes their ship to sink, doesn’t it suck for a Realtor to be forced to become a rental agent because 80% of county residents can no longer afford to buy homes here?

    With their election victories, the development community will win it’s continued public subsidies for more poverty-wage big boxes and more homes these new employees cannot afford. This town’s biggest predators have always called the shots, just like Big Timber before them.

    The resurgence of corporate piggery was wrong in the 1920’s and it’s wrong today, Europeans figured it out sooner, as will we, when the credit runs dry.

    To 10th Street: Your concerns over “elitism” is right out of Sarah Palin and Glen Beck’s talking points. Apparently, an elitist has become someone who knows facts that others are determined not to believe. No one in this string, or blog, makes threats of violence, there are far fewer epithets than in the Times Standard blog, you can skip the petty insults.

    Imagine how “vengeful” and “negative” the riots in Europe must seem to Wall Street and our development community, the victors in the class war.

  139. High Finance
    December 10, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    It is so sad to see Mouse decide along with Plain Jane and Never-do-Well that they are too stupid to debate intelligently with me & devolve to nothing but profanities.

    Sorry guys but facts are facts and they don’t side with your arguments.

    Grow up.

  140. Big Al
    December 10, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    “”Larry Glass’ blistering interview with John Mathews on KSLUG? “”

    is it on-line anywhere?

  141. Big Al
    December 10, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    and remember…
    “Dave Tyson alone has cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars. “

  142. Plain Jane
    December 10, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    GFY again, HiFi. Your lies are too tiresome to bother with.

  143. High Finance
    December 10, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Grow up Jane.

  144. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 10, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Once a mind like HiFi’s is closed, there is nothing to be gained by debating him. It’s a belief thing, not a knowledge thing. For most of us, gaining knowledge alters our opinions. True, it must meet our BS test, but most of us try to listen. HF is stuck on his spot. So….HiFi….GFY…Underground this time. You may set new records!!

  145. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 10, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    I hope HiFi is NOT Marc M. ’cause I always liked Marc. Maybe you can’t really know someone ’til you talk politics with him/her.

  146. pete
    December 10, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Marc Matteolii is working his ass off and wouldn’t have the time to sit at the computer day in and day out. He could not be Hi Fi. Someone on a past blog said it was Tom Stewart. Who knows. AND Barb can lie all she wants about her precious baby little Jeff but he never returned phone calls and only ruined a neighborhood with a loud and property value lowering skate park.

  147. Plain Jane
    December 10, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Exactly, Mouse. Studies have shown that facts don’t matter to people who have “faith” they are right and only serve to harden their beliefs.

  148. anon1
    December 10, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Everyone has that thing that ignites that little tickle..Hi/slys,is money and being in a false sense of power having green paper in his pocket…and would be willing to do almost anything for that tickle..ask David and Virginia about that little tickle while out of town on business. Just like sly willing to make bad moral and ethical decisions turning a blind eye to whats right in a community for a false sense of wealth and power. Its not about being right its about doing the right thing for EVERYONE!! Its seems so easy?

  149. anonymous
    December 10, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Still interested in the Larry Glass interview. I can’t find it on KSLUG. Can anyone give a synopsis for those of us who missed it? Or, Mr. Glass, will you write a “My Word” column or post your thoughts here?

  150. tenth street dreamer
    December 10, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    HiFi has a more than normal interest in the Jefferson School project and having CR as a buyer. He has been on this subject like flys on shit. I found his interest during the campaign to be a bit odd (too much insider type bravado). As some of you are trying to guess who this guy is, I started to try to put it together myself. This is what I have come up with. Who has the most to gain or lose by the sale of the school to either party. Someone in the Eureka school system!!! It could be someone who heads their property management or someone on the school board. Either way, it is all about the MONEY….. My best guess is someone on the school board. Who out there knows who the players are? I’ll bet this one can be solved.

  151. Anonymous
    December 10, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    It’s Tom Stewart ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    oh no no wait maybe it’s Larry Glass ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  152. Anonymous
    December 10, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    He defended the chamber like a big dog too

  153. mresquan
    December 10, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Talk about axing taxpayer funding of the zoo and he has a hissy fit as well.

  154. Anonymous
    December 10, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    It would be interesting to identify HiFi. I did think Rich Ames was a possibility and a couple of others that I still have not totally discounted. I cannot see Marc Matteoli, however. It would have to be someone with a substantial amount of time to devote to this blog.

  155. December 11, 2010 at 12:40 am

    I saw this post at the Mirror:

    Anonymous, on December 8, 2010 at 7:00 pm said:
    When exactly did this project “become what the community wanted”?

    It may be what a small, vocal group of neighbors want, but I doubt it is what the majority of citizens want – I’d wager that most of us wanted CR to purchase the property so we wouldn’t be on the hook for the white elephant that is the Jefferson School property.

  156. December 11, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Same person as High Finance?

  157. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 12:53 am

    It is not Matteoli, the amount of time hili spends blogging indicates pasty skin color, overweight, poor posture, probably impotent, I haven’t read him drunk maybe even a teatotaler, probably cast his first vote for Nixon (against Kennedy), we know he works downtown because he still has a street sweeper at “my office” not “the office” definitely does not live in the 1st or 3rd ward may not even vote in Eureka.

    theme from jeopardy plays

  158. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Sorry but I don’t see it. It just seems like he posts more often because he uses an avatar while we mostly use anonymi. Then when he does post some of us go ga ga obsessing over who he is.

  159. mresquan
    December 11, 2010 at 10:32 am

    I don’t get the impression that hifi cares too much to know the identity of people he argues with,in this instance,he deserves the same.If he wants you to know,he’ll tell you,and he has the same right to remain anonymous that you have.

  160. December 11, 2010 at 11:16 am

    We’ve had Marc as both our buyer’s and seller’s agent over the years. He has been professional, competent and generally great to work with. @10:40am’s “comment” says a lot about what a worthless jerk he or she is, but not a thing about Marc.

  161. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 11:24 am

    You know, it really doesn’t matter who HiFi is. This person is obviously a republican conservative of the highest order. So who gives a shit what he says. It’s obviously business oriented, anti environmental, money above all else, probably Christian, (so am I), member of the Chamber of Commerce, etc., etc.. He is not for the common good of all, but for the common good of the rich. Screw him.

  162. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 11:28 am

    It all depends on who you wish to converse with, your amen chorus or with people who have a different opinion than ourselves. Personally I get bored talking to people who agree with me all the time, I enjoy talking to smart conservatives also.

  163. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    You’re not “conversing” with a different opinion when you “debate” a demagogue determined to disbelieve facts that contradict his orthodoxy. It’s not a debate, it’s a twisted, sadistic dance with a pathetic SOB who repeatedly proves he doesn’t need silly provocations to call his opponents “stupid” or “communist”.

    “Jefferson Elementary School, will NEVER be a school again”. (NEVER).

    “The poor are lazy, they refuse work at the (toxic) bulb farm”. (Nor will they shelter and feed their families with that backbreaking income).

    “Eureka gets more than its money’s worth from the Chamber”, (despite no public access to their financial records).

    “Eureka is a moderate/conservative city”, (despite the other half that doesn’t vote).

    “Another big box will improve our economy”, (despite every national and local economic study that contradicts that conclusion).

    “Tyson’s contract should not be renewed”, (but there will be no protests from the demagogues when it is renewed).

    “The development community does not dominate local politics”, (but none of the local demagogues dared refute John Osborn’s investigative NCJ story proving that they do, just like big-Timber used to).

    “The development community is really the “job-creation community”, (when the demagogue loses his “debate”, the argument must change to “it’s all good anyway”).

    Today’s hard working Realtor is hardly working and has PLENTY of time to blog while sitting at the computer all day managing rentals owned by his betters.

    It matters-not who the demagogue is, Matteoli, Hockaday, or a waiter at Avalon.

  164. High Finance
    December 11, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    If you are going to lie about me, 12.32pm, you could at least use a pseudo name. But lazy cowards who don’t like to think (like you) feel free to lie when you’re anonymous.

    Of your 8 points in your pathetic post, 1 is a lie, 1 is a distortion and 7 are true but you are too stupid or lazy to even try to understand why.

    This lack of thinking is why you have not achieved any success in your job or in life.

  165. Reality Check
    December 11, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Lack of thinking is what has put you into this predicament, Hi-Fi. Maybe ignorance is bliss in your life-don’t question your wealthy buddies who make decisions for you. Your blind faith has kept you sheltered and ignorant. Just because you don’t surround yourself with working class people doesn’t mean that we don’t exist. Quit watching FOX News and join the rest of us in conversations based on fact-if you are capable.

  166. anon1
    December 11, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    When you get thrown under the bus just like every other friend..Don’t snivel when he doesn’t come to your aid..

  167. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    It sounds like it is the people here who don’t tolerate dissent & have a problem speaking with those who don’t agree with them. Hi Fi is one against many & seems to hold his own OK.

  168. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    I agree with HiFi quite often and welcome his comments. Without disagreement, this blog would not be as interesting.

  169. mresquan
    December 11, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    “Without disagreement, this blog would not be as interesting.”

    Or it would be like the humboldt mirror,where if you disagree with the majority of posters there you get called an ignorant,dumb,piece of shit,cocksucking progy slut.

  170. Anonymous
    December 11, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Even when I don’t agree with him he gives a different perspective on issues that sometimes I hadn’t thought of before.

  171. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 11, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    To debate, one needs facts, scientific information (studies, etc.), or at least reasonable information (passes the BS test). None of these has ever been part of HiFi’s arsenal. So we should listen to him WHY????? Maybe he’s the Glen Beck of the Heraldo set? Now there’s a thought!

  172. Blistering Interview
    December 11, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    [audio src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/John_Matthews_KSLG/Podcasts/John_Matthews_KSLG-Larry_Glass121010.mp3" /]

  173. December 11, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Glass interview posted here.

  174. tenth street dreamer
    December 11, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    As an “educator”, Hifi falls far below my expectations. He is good at hyperbole, however. People in the business of educating Eurekans need to stick to the facts and be less biased.

  175. Matt
    December 12, 2010 at 3:01 am

    I don’t mind Frank as major, and I don’t mind Newman even though I voted for Ron, but Brady?! Really?! I can’t believe anybody voted for her. IMHO she’s a total clown.

  176. High Finance
    December 12, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Mouse you sound like a little child.

    What “facts” have you ever presented? What “scientific information & studies” have you ever posted? What “facts” would you like me to present?

    Blogging & posting isn’t about presenting 100 pages of reports that we prepared in our physics classes at HSU, especially since we are usually talking about local politics.

  177. High Finance
    December 12, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Here are some real facts (as opposed to your made up ones) about the fund raising reported in the Times Standard article of Oct 24th for the last reporting date before the election.

    Brady had raised $29 thousand + to Larry Glass’s almost $15,000.

    Newman raised 22,715 to Kuhnel $12,525

    The T/S had two subsequent articles about last minute contributions from Pierson.. $4,000 to Glass and $2,000 and $4,000 to Kuhnel. No major contributions for Brady or Newman.

    This raises the totals as follows;

    Brady $29,522 to Glass $18,600
    Newman $22,715 to Kuhnel $18,525

    Hardly the overwhelming advantage you guys pretend.

    http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_16421661

  178. Plain Jane
    December 12, 2010 at 10:22 am

    HiFi can’t possibly be so ignorant to believe that the hundreds of thousands that Arkley has spent on attack ads against Neely and Glass over the last few years as well as his lying “Yes on N” campaign wasn’t in actuality donations to his slate of candidates. His denial is too ludicrous to be believed.

  179. High Finance
    December 12, 2010 at 10:28 am

    The ads were for Measure N & did criticise Neeley a lot. But “hundreds of thousands” dollars worth? Nonsense. It also never mentioned Brady/Newman/Kuhnel & I don’t believe it even mentioned Glass.

    You’re just making shit up again PJ.

  180. Plain Jane
    December 12, 2010 at 10:40 am

    They didn’t HAVE to mention Glass you ignorant Troglodyte. Several years of radio ads using different front groups and every dime spent on “Yes on N” was to benefit his slate of candidates. Brady smeared Glass nonstop throughout her campaign which was built ENTIRELY on the MC. Newman did the same against Kuhnel. They were ALL part of the Arkley slate and his spending on the “Yes on N” campaign and all those years of ads bashing any opponent of the MC was to get them elected while giving idiots like yourselves implausible deniability of the effect of massive spending on elections.

  181. Anonymous
    December 12, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    How about some decorum here Jane ? You are making us all look bad.

  182. Reinventing The Wheel
    December 12, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    I rest my case, we’re outspent once again.

    The legacy continues.

  183. Plain Jane
    December 12, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    12:36, what I say or do reflects on no one but myself. Maintaining decorum when cyber slapping liars is a waste of time. You post how you like and I’ll do the same.

  184. Anonymous
    December 12, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Why don’t you head on over to Humboldt Mirrors where your type belongs ?

  185. Plain Jane
    December 12, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Or you could start your own blog where you can let your inner control freak run wild. Go hump someone else’s leg.

  186. December 12, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    I love you, Jane.

  187. Plain Jane
    December 12, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Aww, you are so sweet, Kristabel. Only a saint could love me. :P

  188. December 12, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    I think it takes someone on the other end of the spectrum. xo

  189. Anonymous
    December 12, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    A match made in heaven.

  190. Plain Jane
    December 12, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    I was thinking about saints loving everyone, but you’re right, Kristabel. I’d rather laugh with the sinners….

  191. The waste manager
    December 12, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    The three stooges just became four on council. Let the fun begin. It will be a circus, at the expense of the community. our voices will not stand for a lot unless we storm city hall as Arkley did, filling the hall with marina center sweatshirt people taking every seat. They have been planning this takeover for many months before the election. Orchestration! The people sitting a home love a good movie.

  192. Reinventing The Wheel
    December 12, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Hi-Lie just had his own dimwit quotes thrown back in his face and he proves AGAIN he’s nothing but a childish provocateur:

    “You’re anonymous”!
    “You’re a coward”!
    “You’re lazy”!
    “You’re a liar”!
    “You can’t think”!
    “You’re stupid because you can’t understand me”!
    “You’re not successful in life”!
    “You’re not successful at work”!

    No wonder Heraldites keep saying GFY…how do you debate someone that can’t even compose a good fortune -cookie?

    Here’s one: “You’re grandchildren will suffer in a New Gilded Age because of the corporate piggery you defended”.

  193. High Finance
    December 13, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Pathetic post Reinventing the Lie.

    Do you ever contribute any positive posts?

  194. Reinventing The Wheel
    December 13, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    Does your hypocrisy never fatigue?

    Those are your “debate” rantings, not mine.

    Fool.

  195. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Give em hell Hi Fi. They are all “one trick pony’s” with a “one drum beat” mantra.

    Hey RTW, GFY!

  196. High Finance
    December 14, 2010 at 7:32 am

    I know Mr 1.13pm. It is usually me against ten of them and it is not a fair fight.

    They need more reinforcements!

  197. Auntie Arkley
    December 14, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Low-life scumbags, each and every one.

  198. Anonymous
    December 14, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Hi-Finally gets his clock cleaned with his own quotes, releasing a litany of dumb insults in response, then cries about fairness!

    He makes himself a fool, then he gloats.

    Sadist or masochist?

    You decide.

  199. Just plain High as a kite
    December 14, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    or a dumbazz dick mo

  200. High Finance
    December 14, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Pathetic.

  201. anon1
    December 14, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    You finally are having a change of heart, a little reflection…yes, you are pathetic..Now do something besides being a bully. Sly, change is good remember role model for your kids.

  202. Anonymous
    December 14, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    HiFi must post here with a purpose – often the one lone voice and so prolific that it’s hard to fathom he is doing this entirely on his own time. I’m not even saying that I 100% disagree with some of what he has to say, but cannot understand how he has so much time to devote to this exercise. The same could be said of a few others – e.g. Henchman and Plain Jane, from time to time. But HiFi is everywhere, all the time.

  203. The waste manager
    December 15, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Hifi is paid to do it.

  204. by the numbers
    December 15, 2010 at 7:41 am

    his sugar daddy is not getting his monies worth.

  205. High Finance
    December 15, 2010 at 8:52 am

    Mr 9,41am posts twice as much as I. But he hides behind “Anonymous”.

  206. by the numbers
    December 15, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Question: and who is High Finance?
    Answer: a person who hides behind a screen name or
    an anonymous post as well.

  207. Anonymous
    December 15, 2010 at 9:21 am

    In a blog where must of you are singing to the Amen Chorus, the one saying the Emporerer has no clothes is the one who stands out.

  208. Plain Jane
    December 15, 2010 at 9:27 am

    In this case the choir is singing “The wannabee emperors have no clothes” and the opposition is praising their regal attire.

  209. Anonymous
    December 15, 2010 at 11:38 am

    How much more proof does anyone need that Hi-Liar is a mere provocateur-demagogue? A wasteland of his own ludicrous quotes are repeated-back, with a reason why they’re dumb, and Hi-Li enters Hi-per liar-mode:

    “Stupid, lazy, coward, you’re not successful in life,
    you’re not successful at work”!

    Who in their right mind thinks this kook is contributing ANYTHING, he’s the only one that thinks he’s “debating”.

    The development community owns this town, just like the timber industry before that. Their opposition is outspent and generally loses. Once the idiots milk the exceptions to death, the “debate” changes to “you don’t have money to compete because you don’t have popular support”. Yet, NO ONE has popular support because half don’t even participate. SO, the debate must change again, the development community is the, “job-creation community”…see, it’s all good anyway! Electoral tyranny rocks! Hi-Liar was just yanking your chains.

    The next team of lap dogs just took their seats.

  210. Anonymous
    December 15, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    Aw Jesus. What a whining crybaby. So powerless and living the life of a victim. Why go on living with that attitude. You have given up even trying to understand life. People like you don’t even give Hi Fi any competition because you have laid down & died already.

  211. High Finance
    December 15, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    If you are going to “help” me 12.03pm, tone down the message.

    Otherwise you are no better than the nasty guy at 11.38am.

  212. WhatNow
    December 16, 2010 at 5:09 am

    HI-Fried,a legende in his own slime.

  213. anon1
    December 16, 2010 at 7:24 am

    Hi/sly drank the Kool Aid..for sure..Never stopped thinking like his Grandpa..I keep waiting to see him in pictures with a white sheet a dunce cap..

  214. High Finance
    December 16, 2010 at 8:20 am

    Well at least this time you’re sober anon1.

  215. The waste manager
    December 16, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Hifi doing his “piss on everyone” thing again. He is like the energizer bunny. We all know where the “beef” isn’t. Get back to what you know something about. It is tax time for all those hifiers. Do what you are good at and go help the other poor rich people.

  216. Anonymous
    December 16, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Sorry, Hi-Liar is the only whining crybaby here:

    “You’re anonymous”!
    “You’re a coward”!
    “You’re lazy”!
    “You’re a liar”!
    “You can’t think”!
    “You’re stupid because you can’t understand me”!
    “You’re not successful in life”!
    “You’re not successful at work”!

    This is the hateful rambling of a pathetic coward.

    He just got the city council he deserves.

  217. Anonymous
    December 16, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Ohhhh. There are many others who say mean things here. Too many to post and who wants to spend the time. Maybe we could all try to be more civil to one another? It would feel better, thought the conversations would still not ever be resolved. Just more positive.

  218. High Finance
    December 16, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Waste Manager (who uses a different pseudo name several times a day) thinks he knows a lot more than he does. You obviously think you know who I am but you are far off buddy.

    But all I do is tell the truth & you think its hell.

    And funny, 11.41am doesn’t even use a pseudo name, lies about what I have said & he calls me a pathetic coward?

  219. anon1
    December 16, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Tell your truth..Not THE TRUTH..I feel for you man…They AINT letting you in..You’re a wannabe..

  220. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 16, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Gee, HiFi. How do you know who Waste manager posts as? Maybe you have a crystal ball? I was hoping you weren’t who WM and I thought you were but I don’t really know. Care to enlighten?

  221. Anonymouse
    December 16, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    What an ass many of you are.

  222. Anonymous
    December 16, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Remarkable.

    Pawning yourself off as reasonable and rational gets a lot of traction here.

    But, once that facade was shot-to-hell from the 8 quotes listed above (12/11 @ 12:32) Hi-Fi’s demagoguery was exposed and his ONLY response has been cheap graffiti.

    All you have to do is repeat his own quotes back to him and he whimpers like a baby!

    High Finance says:
    December 15, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    “you are no better than the nasty guy at 11.38am”

    The “nasty guy” was quoting High Finance, again!

    Unbelievable.

    “This is why Hi-Fi has no respect here and will never be a successful blogger in life”. (Borrowed from Hi-Logic quotes above).

  223. High Finance
    December 17, 2010 at 6:05 am

    I am surprised at the level of hatred liberals show towards people who disagree with them.

    You must be very insecure in yourselves & your postions.

  224. Walt
    December 17, 2010 at 6:25 am

    I love this level of dialog: You’re a poo-poo head, No, YOU”RE a poo-poo head, No, You’re a BIGGER poo-poo head, etc, etc, etc. This is blogging? Is this a vision of the future? At some point does Heraldo say “OK, this string has outlived its usefulness?” [Flusshhhhhhh, Ka plunk]

  225. Poo Poo Head
    December 17, 2010 at 7:59 am

    I luv the way u all slam us at the Mirror but look at your posts.

  226. confucius
    December 17, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Before one embarks on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.

  227. Geez
    December 18, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    High Finance says:
    December 17, 2010 at 6:05 am

    I am surprised at the level of hatred liberals show towards people who disagree with them.

    You must be very insecure in yourselves & your postions.

    “Hatred”? All Anonymous did was unwind 8 of your dimwit quotes and all you can do is squirm.

    You’re as insecure in your arrogance as you are in your spelling.

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