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GALLEGOS WINS: Blogger vows jihad 4 more years

McKinleyville’s Rose Welsh hoped the November election would hand victory to her favored candidate for Humboldt County District Attorney so she could finally abandon her blog targeting DA Paul Gallegos — the ominously titled watchpaul.blogspot.com.

But Gallegos won and Angry McAngrypants is blistering mad.  Any media mention of the election triggers a semi-coherent and accusatory rant from Rose’s anti-Paul headquarters.

A blogger outside Humboldt County, Lisa Derrick, learned the hard way.  After reporting the Gallegos re-election on firedoglake.com, Rose responded like a skunk rather than a flower, allowing foul personal attacks on Derrick in the comment section despite a stated moderation standard that would limit such things.  In contrast, civilized and topical comments that disagreed with Rose’s holy war had a tougher time getting through.

Derrick’s response with links to the entire affair is here.

  1. December 13, 2010 at 11:20 am

    I wondered what would happen with Rose’s blog if Gallegos won. I guess I know now.

    Kinda sad really. That means Rose will have four miserable years of tracking his every movement looking for ammunition against him. Four more years of hating and getting stressed out over one thing in her life.

    What kind of life is that?

    I’ve heard of poor losers, but reallY?

  2. Not Surprised
    December 13, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Rose is a nut-job and needs to be put on medication. She backed a lying, manipulative panderer. And when Jackson lost, Rose lost her mind.

    She needs to sit down, take a deep breath, and realize that STILL, after four elections, more people in Humboldt county disagree with her than agree.

    Its democracy Rose. Get used to it. And relax.

  3. School Counselor
    December 13, 2010 at 11:40 am

    After reading the link and associated rants, I can’t help but see Rose as the girl in high school who has a crush on the popular boy even though he doesn’t seem to notice her. Does Gallegos even care about her incessant whining? I doubt it, probably doesn’t even know she’s doing it. Which, of course, only makes her more venomous. Poor girl needs a date! Any takers wanna help Rose relax?

  4. Humboldt Politico
    December 13, 2010 at 11:40 am

    I don’t see 4% as an overwhelming margin of approval for Gallegos.

  5. December 13, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    Gallegos needs watching and Rose is performing a needed public service in exposing his incompetence.

  6. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    I don’t see 4% as an overwhelming margin of approval for Gallegos.

    I believe that means at least 4% of the voting population has illegal grows. Plus, there’s the “shill tek ur pot!” contingent among HSU students who voted in droves.

  7. High Finance
    December 13, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    I don’t see how Rose’s comments there are any worse than many of those by Mouse, Plain Jane, Tenth St Dreamer, Reinvent the Lie and several others here.

  8. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    In the immediate aftermath of the final election results Rose was ominously predicting 20 more years of Gallegos as DA.

    Of course that could only happen if (a) Gallegos runs for office 4 more times, and (b) he continues to be blessed with opponents like Rose Welsh and Allison Jackson who undermine their own credibility and galvanize his support with their half-truths and histrionic exaggerations.

  9. December 13, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    I have a question or two for you, “Heraldo.”

    How is what you do different from what Rose does? From what I can tell, you are more or less mirror images, with a few variations. One is that she does exhaustive research, but the main difference is that she identifies herself (and even takes phone calls).

    You’ve made a pincushion of the Arkleys, she of Gallegos. So what about your “jihad?”

  10. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    If you watch how the campaigns (the paid consultants) handle themselves sleeze-wise, and compare it to what Heraldo puts out, it’s not difficult to get a good idea of who Heraldo probably is.

    Rose, on the other hand, doesn’t hide her identity and her opinions are backed up by third-party data, namely the Times-Standard. So, there’s no guesswork involved.

  11. December 13, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Hilarious.

  12. Sven
    December 13, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    Speaking for myself, all I care about is the info either way. I’d expect rose to be pissed off if she feels as deeply as she obviously does, but to me there’s a world of difference between arkley’s and gallegos’ work and how they affect our lives. I’m never going to have anything at all to do with gallegos, but I might find myself living next door to one of arkley’s cash registers for the rest of my life, washing my dishes in tap water more polluted than it is now because of his enterprises.

  13. December 13, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    Oh, and tra – you mean like calling himself a “Professor” and claiming to create programs that predate him by many years? That kind of not even half truths and histrionic exaggerations? Hilarious again. Doesn’t look like you’re getting alotta traction with this one “heraldo” but thank Lisa Derrick for the opportunity to let the broader audience know what a phony Gallegos is. LOL.

  14. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    – an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person’s mind.

    It is not often that a blog topic is so well demonstrated by the person posting.

  15. Anon1
    December 13, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Rainy days in Humboldt:

    Betty Chin feeds the homeless.
    Rose watches Paul.
    What do you do?

  16. anon1
    December 13, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    I think Rose may have forgotten who her parents..Pretty liberal and for what is right in the world..hmmmmm..What happened Rosie..

  17. Humboldt Politico
    December 13, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Everybody needs a hobby and Rose has Paul. More power to her. And I will agree, it is a needed public service.

  18. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    “…you mean like calling himself a “Professor” and claiming to create programs that predate him by many years? That kind of not even half truths and histrionic exaggerations?”

    Yes thank you, those are two fine examples of your histrionic exaggerations and half-truths. The “Professor” thing was an embarassing but unimportant gaffe — he and his team should have known that there is a real difference between a “Lecturer” and an actual “Professor,” but it’s not an uncommon mistake, and of course it had zero impact on his job performance or on the lives of Humboldt County residents. And while I’m sure you think it was a deliberate lie, I seriously doubt it, nor do I think the title would have influenced any voters one way or the other.

    Meanwhile, the phony “controversy” over his award-winning domestic violence team is even less important. While it’s true that the DA’s office had a domestic violence team even before Gallegos, it’s also true that under his leadership the program was changed and improved with a “vertical prosecution” approach, which IS new, and which is part of the reason this new domestic violence team was recognized and applauded by the Board of Supervisors. And again, I don’t think there was any intent to deceive, nor do I think Humboldt County residents really care whether the successful domestic violence team is a really an “all-new team” as opposed to merely a “new team.” What people care about is that Gallegos put a great team in place, and that improvements continue to be made in how these cases are handled.

    Another great example of the histrionic exaggeration that seems endemic to the Gallegos-hater community is illustrated by the amazing longevity of their obsession over his surfing accident, which was a meaningless issue even way back when it actually happened, and at this point the fact that they keep bringing it up is just getting laughable. Every time the haters bring this up, it reminds everyone of just how petty, personal, and pathetic the opposition to Gallegos has been.

    Meanwhile, Jackson’s fake endorsements and deceitful ads get a pass from the Gallegos-haters, who are blinded by their own obsessive resentment of the current DA and seemingly unable to perceive the many serious flaws of their own candidate.

    While Gallegos goofed in describing his title when teaching at HSU, Jackson displayed a far more serious and malevolent disregard for the truth with her deceitful ad saying that a serious child abuser was “given probation by the DA” while failing to mention the 10 years that the defendant actually served in prison. This was clearly an attempt to misrepresent a case in order to fool the voters; the fact that it was a “lie of omission” doesn’t make it any less of a lie.

    The fact that Jackson and her acolytes would exploit a victim of child abuse in such a cynical manner, all in the service of political gain, was, all by itself, plenty of reason to conclude that Jackson couldn’t be trusted to be our District Attorney. If she’d lie about a serious child abuse case in order to try to win office, is there anything she wouldn’t lie about?

  19. Plain Jane
    December 13, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    And then there was the instance when Rose copy / pasted an out of context quote (complete with typo but without credit) and completely misrepresented what it was saying. Rose claimed that the reduced number of cases proved Gallegos was failing to prosecute child abuse when the newspaper article actually quoted social services as saying the programs designed to educate and intervene in risky families was responsible for the reduced cases.

  20. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    I remember several years ago when all of CR’s faculty were either full-time or part-time instructors. No one had the formal title of professor. However, many students, and even some staff, called them professors. Then their titles were changed to professor some time in the late 1990s. Many students continued to call them professors and many of the faculty thought of themselves as professors both before and after the title change. It’s a purely semantic issue and of little consequence to the DAs position.

  21. Mitch
    December 13, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Basically, I agree about 99%+ of the time with tra and Plain Jane, so I’ll start by saying “ditto,” despite how the word has become associated with Rush.

    I’ll add that a good way of determining how much or how little dirt there is on somebody is by rating the dirt that is offered by the person’s obsessive enemies. Anyone who tries to move forward or, for that matter, in any direction, is going to have enemies. When the best your enemies can come up with is your being referred to as an HSU Professor when you are actually an HSU Lecturer, you’re probably pretty ethical. (I remember when I was in school, I was incapable of calling my favorite teacher, a Senior Lecturer, anything but Professor. I felt that to refer to him otherwise would be insulting, even though he wanted everyone to call him Lou.)

    Gallegos has gone up against power and money. And all power, money, Rose and Kevin Hoover come up with is that he’s not in the office 24/7, a brochure inaccurately called him Professor instead of Lecturer, and that he works with a political consultant who actually plays politics as it is practiced in America. Oh, the horror.

    P.S. Gosh, I sure hope it was a brochure and not a flyer. I’d hate to find myself on the front page of the Eye.

  22. Humboldt Politico
    December 13, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    If Rose is so off base with her postings, why do so many others attack her so violently?

    Where’s there’s smoke, there’s fire.

  23. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    While it’s true that the DA’s office had a domestic violence team even before Gallegos, it’s also true that under his leadership the program was changed and improved with a “vertical prosecution” approach, which IS new,

    That’s a pathetic defense of the indefensible. Honesty matters, or at least it should. This, above all else, is why I largely voted conservative for the first time this year… not so much that the conservatives are more honest, but that I thought my own party — on the local level — conducted itself with honesty and character. For the first time, I realized my beliefs were unfounded.

  24. Mitch
    December 13, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    If neo-Nazis are so off base with their attitudes, why do so many others attack them so violently?

    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

    (Just for the record, I have no intention of comparing Rose with neo-Nazis; I just want to point out the complete idiocy of Humboldt Politico’s last comment.)

  25. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    By the way, I think our DA, along with ALL of our elected officials, DO need watchdogs among the public and our local media — people to help hold their feet to the fire with respect to honesty, keeping campaign promises, etc.

    But as far as I can tell, Rose’s “extensive research” basically involves reading the Times-Standard and then re-framing whatever news she finds in whatever way will reflect most poorly on Gallegos, always being sure to exaggerate any perceived shortcomings on his part and to attribute the darkest of motives to any of his actions or statements.

    So I don’t see where she’s really added anything to the public debate except for a bunch of spin, bile and hyperbole. Meanwhile, I’m sure her ongoing obsessions with Professor-gate, Surfing-gate, Award-gate and the whole litany of meaningless complaints is well-received among the hard-core haters, but to most voters it’s just a reminder that Rose and her cronies don’t seem to have much in the way of meaningful, substantive criticisms, much less constructive ones.

  26. Plain Jane
    December 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Yep, Tra. Obama is a Kenyan socialist, Kerry was a coward and Clinton murdered Foster. All that smoke HAS to mean fire. At least it keeps them off the streets.

  27. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    “If Rose is so off base with her postings, why do so many others attack her so violently? Where there’s smoke, there’s fire”

    Usually, but not always. In some cases there’s a smoke machine. In this case that smoke machine is called “WatchPaul.” They also carry a lovely line of mirrors.

  28. mresquan
    December 13, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    I appreciate that Rose likes to well,watch Paul.The surfing incident stuff comes mostly from other posters,as I do get the feeling that Rose doesn’t view it as the hugest of deals.But the out of hand crap is what is directed at Salzman,or other known Gallegos allies.

  29. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    December 13, 2010 at 5:55 pm

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    Response: Provoking……….Hmmmmm, HiFi, Hoover, Crawford, others are correctomundo on this feeble attack…….. what’s the difference….. Oh, besides the samenesses, the difference would be …. different agendas?

    I must say though, whatever infatuation the Herald says Rose has with Gallegos, I do believe that the same goes for the Herald’s infatuation with Rose Welsh. Difference is, Rose is open about her viewpoints and pen’s her name to it – this is conviction in one’s belief…..various anonymouses are, well, too scared of something or embarrassed or lack honor, integrity or social skills or straightforward thought or lots of things. But a hide and seeker is not what Rose comes away as, not even close.

    Boring news day today at the Herald. I figured since we had a local hanging the other day; then Madoff’s son lynching himself with a rope, kinda makes the Herald’s efforts on this “write-up” look along the same lines or hanging outcome.

    JL

  30. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    December 13, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Plain Jane says:
    December 13, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    And then there was the instance when Rose copy / pasted an out of context quote (complete with typo but without credit) and completely misrepresented what it was saying.

    Response: Plain Jane says:
    December 13, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    And then there was the instance when Plain Jane copy / pasted an out of context quote (complete with typo but without credit) and completely misrepresented what it was saying.

    JL

  31. Plain Jane
    December 13, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Exactly which instance was that, Jeff?

  32. December 13, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Sorry – but whomever it is above who says Gallegos came up with the “Vertical Prosecution” idea – that is totally false. If he tells you that he is lying yet again.

    In fact the vertical Prosecution grants REQUIRE that there be a vertical prosecutor assigned for Child Abuse and DV cases. Looking at the names he has assigned to those positions and knowing that they are not vertically assigned essentially means he has been violating the terms of those grants.

    The fact of the matter is those granting agencies do not play coy when presented with a Public Records Act request, as Gallegos does. I have copies of the documents. Don’t try to spin shit on this issue.

  33. December 13, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    And, for those who do not know what “vertical prosecution” means – think of it like a reporter assigned to a story – the reporter follows the story from start to finish, he does not hand it off to fifty different people, with a different person writing each paragraph.

    The granting agencies recognize the value of a single prosecutor assigned to follow a case from state to finish, and so they provide funding to ensure it. The person whose name is on the grant is supposed to be allowed to work on those cases, and not be assigned to things like asset forfeiture etc etc etc….

    You all know full well that Gallegos is not practicing that – you know it from cases like Whitmill – you have been told in clear and not uncertain terms that a different person walks into court unprepared each time. That case was not unique.

    And, you also know, if you are people who truly have followed this man’s record, that the CAST prosecutions have declined so precipitously it is amazing any of you can support him with a straight face, much less try to spin it.

    But, you do. And it says a lot about you that you do.

    It’s a travesty.

  34. Plain Jane
    December 13, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Take notice of how Rose spins what Tra said with her claim that Gallegos didn’t come up with the “idea” for vertical prosecution, but that’s not what Tra said at all. What he said was, “it’s also true that under his leadership the program was changed and improved with a “vertical prosecution” approach, which IS new, and which is part of the reason this new domestic violence team was recognized and applauded by the Board of Supervisors.” She then goes on to claim that she doesn’t think the people assigned are “vertically assigned” so he is violating the terms of the grants. She, of course, knows better than the agencies involved in handing out those grants.

  35. December 13, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Last word – the woman in question Lisa Derrick, who penned the slavering POS article for Huffington Post certainly has no clue about any of this – one wonders if she would have done it if she did know. You could think that she would have more integrity than that – but – maybe not… but she chose to write that without any real knowledge at all. really, any of you reading it know that.

  36. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Rose,

    Are you claiming that the use of the “vertical prosecution” system for these cases was around before Gallegos and therefore he shouldn’t be taking credit for it?

    Or are you conceding that it IS a new policy since Gallegos took office, but you’re claiming that he’s not actually carrying out this policy (“knowing that they are not vertically assigned essentially means he has been violating the terms of those grants”)?

    I don’t know if you’re intentionally trying to obfuscate this issue or you are just being unclear.

    Either way, let’s try to simplfy this:

    (1) The DA’s office is currently using a “vertical prosecution” system for these cases — True or False?

    (2) Before Gallegos’ tenure the DA’s office was not using a “vertical prosecution” system for these cases — True or False?

  37. December 13, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Didn’t see you come in, Jane, but yes – the granting agencies don’t know – or didn’t. You may be right however, maybe his “approach” is “New” – it may be new that a DA would so completely misrepresent the facts. Maybe that’s is your pencil thin piece of truth upon which you build your construct.

    The real issues were never covered during Gallegos’ campaign. It is a sad and shameful fact.

  38. Plain Jane
    December 13, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    And apparently she would prefer that at risk families be ignored until there is serious abuse occurring rather than intervene and reduce the number of cases filed. It’s pretty obvious she has some personal issues with Gallegos which fuel her obsession.

  39. December 13, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Not gonna argue with you tra, because I have been clear and you are trying to spin it. I have the granting documents – I will make them available to any real reporter who gives a shit. Too late – but there you go. So, unles tra is a nic fro a real reporter, sorry, bud.

  40. Plain Jane
    December 13, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Then I hope you’re ashamed of yourself for not raising the real issues, Rose. All those smears and half truths when you should have been raising the real issues.

  41. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Thanks Rose. This jives with what I’ve heard about how unprepared the prosecutors have become under Gallegos. He won’t get voted out of office until a majority of the population knows a victim or has been victimized. The way things are going, that shouldn’t be too far off. I don’t talk politics with many people, but I’ve lost all respect for the few I know who are big Gallegos defenders.

  42. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    “And, for those who do not know what “vertical prosecution” means – think of it like a reporter assigned to a story – the reporter follows the story from start to finish…”

    I do understand what is meant by the “vertical prosecution” wherein the same prosecutor follows a given case all the way through the system. So the question is how well that goal is being reached. You cite one case where you say it was not done that way, but is that the rule or the rare exception?

    “The person whose name is on the grant is supposed to be allowed to work on those cases, and not be assigned to things like asset forfeiture etc etc etc….”

    Okay, now you’re saying that the person doing the vertical prosecutions cannot be assigned to any other kinds of cases? Really?

  43. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Rose,

    I’m not trying to “game” anything, I’m trying to get you to answer some very simple questions.

    Apparently you love to make sweeping pronouncements about wrongdoing and mismanagement in the DA’s office, but when someone asks you to clarify exactly what you are claiming, you suddenly get all coy?

    Well, if you should change your mind and decide to converse in earnest, I asked you some simple questions at 7:11 and 7:25, and I would genuinely like to see what your answers are.

  44. tra
    December 13, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    “I have the granting documents – I will make them available to any real reporter who gives a shit. Too late – but there you go. So, unles tra is a nic fro a real reporter, sorry, bud.”

    So you say you have evidence to bolster your claims — but the catch is that you won’t share this evidence with anyone but a “real reporter.” (And apparently you haven’t yet found “a real reporter who gives a shit?” about your supposed smoking gun. Perhaps that should tell you something?)

    So for those of us who are not reporters, we get your sweeping claims and we get your assurance that you have evidence, and we get to just take your word for it that the documents you say you have prove what you say they prove.

    Not exactly a recipe for enhancing your credibility. With supporters like you, no wonder your DA candidates keep losing!

  45. December 13, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Too funny, Lisa. Welcome to the Humboldt blogs.

  46. anon
    December 13, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Hoover is a cop

  47. I'm not Mitch
    December 13, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    ARKLEY WINS: Blogger Heraldo vows jihad 4 more years.

  48. anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    I remember an ad run in the T-S the week before the election listing a large number of Humboldt county lawyers supporting Gallegos. The ad stated something to the effect that placing the ad was an unusual step, that they came from many different branches of the law and that many held different political views but they did agree that Gallegos was the best candidate.

  49. Anonymous
    December 13, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    10:13, defense attorneys supported Gallegos. They know a good thing when they have one.

    I’m trying to keep track. Has Heraldo explained how he/she is any less jihadist than Rose? I don’t see a difference.

  50. lurch
    December 13, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Has Heraldo explained how he/she is any less jihadist than Rose? I don’t see a difference.

    well, you might start with the fact that the blog’s not named “WatchRob”. That’s at least una pelita less jihadist.

  51. Anonymous
    December 14, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Posers. All the grants require vertical prosecution. That requires a dda an investigator and a VW advocate. All have been in place from a minimum 1997-98. The Dude Ass (DA) is not teeling the truth. But hek. Just ignore everything on the county website that contradicts it. Just ignore 15 yeears of posted apps and approvals. Doesn’t change reality

  52. Dont be fooled again
    December 14, 2010 at 4:08 am

    tra says:
    December 13, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    “Another great example of the histrionic exaggeration that seems endemic to the Gallegos-hater community is illustrated by the amazing longevity of their obsession over his surfing accident, which was a meaningless issue even way back when it actually happened,”

    tra, I genuinely appreciate the vast majority of your posts on this blog. I do not always agree with your position, but I can generally understand how you arrived at it and I give you respect for that. I have always found your postings logical, rational, reasonable and concise. However, you were way off the mark here! I am disappointed to know that you consider the DA’s dishonesty “a meaningless issue”. To me the episode indicated a gross lack of character on his part. I always wondered why he didn’t simply tell his staff he was taking the day off to go surfing instead of calling in sick. It has always reminded me of the “…I didn’t inhale” comment by Clinton.

    It is really sad that out of all the excellent attorneys in Humboldt County the voters had to choose between this incompetent and deceitful twit and that vengeful and deceitful twat.

  53. High Finance
    December 14, 2010 at 7:28 am

    Yes, I have noticed how cool, calm & logical Tra is also. Definitely not the typical liberal.

    I suspect that she may be a closet conservative.

  54. Eric Kirk
    December 14, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Angry McAngrypants?

  55. Anonymous
    December 14, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Dont be fooled again says:
    December 14, 2010 at 4:08 am

    Nice try to claim the DA lied because Rose or his other haters “claim” he “called in sick”. He’s the boss. He does not need to “call in” to anyone. He can come and go from the office when he wants. Taking a rumor and treating it as fact is pretty much what most of the claims against Gallegos amount to. Rose is a four time loser and I’m with Kirk, Angry McAngrypants is the best name ever. Let’s all us it for now on when referring to Rose.

  56. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 9:26 am

    “I always wondered why he didn’t simply tell his staff he was taking the day off to go surfing instead of calling in sick.”

    What’s your basis for the claim that he “called in sick” that day? Has anyone put their name to this claim, and if so, who?

  57. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Oh, 9:24 beat me to the punch.

  58. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 9:31 am

    “Yes, I have noticed how cool, calm & logical Tra is also. Definitely not the typical liberal. I suspect that she may be a closet conservative.”

    Well thanks, I guess. But from what I’ve seen the typical conservative nowadays is not cool, calm, or logical either.

  59. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 9:34 am

    For example: Death Panels, Terrorist Anchor Babies, Global Warming is a Massive Global One-World Government Conspiracy by Evil Scientists, Obama is a Secret Muslim Communist Fascist Socialist Terrorist Puppy-killer, etc, etc.

  60. Anonymous
    December 14, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Those people are on the lunatic fringe of the right wing tra. Nuts like most here are in the mainstream of the liberal wing.

  61. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    “Those people are on the lunatic fringe of the right wing”

    Well it seems that the “lunatic fringe” of the right wing has taken quite a few positions of power and prominenece lately, given that the Death Panels nonsense was famously promoted by none other than former Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin, and that extreme anti-immigrant hysteria, Birtherism and paranoid global warming denialism all have been promoted by GOP elected officials and Fox News commentators. Not to mention the Ground Zero Victory Mosque hysteria, the imagined War on Christmas and all the rest of the paranoid conspiratorial horrors that make up the modern American right-wing worldview.

    Is this all just evidence of the tumourous Tea Party tail wagging the GOP dog? Or has the cancer in the tail begun to metastasize, spreading to the body and the brain? Looks more like the latter to me.

  62. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    “Nuts like most here are in the mainstream of the liberal wing.”

    Well I agree that most people who post to this blog are “in the mainstream of the liberal wing” though in my opinion only a few have shown signs of being “nuts.”

    I’ll certainly grant you that paranoid conspiratorialism can be found among members of both major political parties and especially among those who hold the most hard-line ideological positions.

    But I do think the wingnuttery that may have started out over at the fringes of the Republican Party has spread to the point that it now makes up a large part of the GOP’s base voters. Just to take one example, look up the numbers on what percentage of Americans (mostly Republicans and especially Tea Party Republicans) actually believe that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

    We’re talking about tens of millions of people, almost all of whom are part of the Republican electoral base, who actually believe that there is a massive conspiracy and coverup over Obama’s birth certificate and that he is not legitimately the President.

  63. Unethical Rose/Ajax
    December 14, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Talk about Unethical, the Jackson Campaign was full of mean-spirited deception, and banked on using the victims of violence for their own political gain (or lack there of).

    An open letter to Allison Jackson
    Letters to the Editor
    Posted: 12/02/2010 01:14:16 AM PST

    I understand that you have been running for office, and though I do not currently reside in Humboldt county, I was born and raised there as were the last five generations of my family. I have been made aware of your campaign because of the need you felt to bring my cousin, Michael Coen, into every interview or speech at what appeared to be every opportunity. While I understand and support your right to hold a different opinion than your opponent, your tactics leave much to be desired. As well you know, Humboldt is a small and insulated community, and my family is going through enough grief and pain without your tawdry campaigning dragging us through the collective mud of politics. Michael has faced choices and challenges of which you know nothing, nor have you bothered to research, except of course to air details of his juvenile record in public forums. It is tactics like these that cost you votes, not earn them. For shame.

    Claire Olmstead
    Beaverton
    http://www.times-standard.com/letters/ci_16757456

  64. Eric Kirk
    December 14, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Oh, I get the point of the rose now.

    Duh!

  65. Anonymous
    December 14, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    It’s hard to see the plank in our own eye while we are being so helpful telling our neighbors how to remove the speck of sawdust from theirs.

  66. Eric Kirk
    December 14, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Isn’t that from the Bible? I never understood that one as you obviously can’t fit a plank in your eye. Not unless it’s a divine miracle.

    But then the mustard seed is not even close to being “the smallest of seeds.”

  67. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    I’m sure those are about the only two cases where the writers of the Bible were taking a bit of poetic license. Everything else in the Bible is absolutely straightforward empirical fact dontcha know.

  68. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    To be fair, mustard seeds are pretty small. I don’t know what all the crops were that were being cultivated in that part of the world at that time, but I suppose it’ possible that this was the smallest seed that they were aware of at the time.

  69. December 14, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Hi, I’m “the woman in question Lisa Derrick.”

    Local politics give a huge insight into state and national politics, and can be very rough and tumble! I love Humboldt County and appreciate residents’ dedication and involvement in politics, culture, and social issues. It’s really inspirational.

    Rose’s views differ from the majority of voters, and are thus vital for the community. Hopefully her voice will continue no matter who is office, otherwise it just looks like she has an axe to grind.

  70. Mitch
    December 14, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Eric @5:20,

    With great faith, all is possible. ;)

  71. tra
    December 14, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Hopefully her voice will continue…”

    Well I have no problem with her voice, I just wish she’d use it to say something meaningful once in a while. But who knows, 2011 might be the year when that finally happens. Not holding my breath, though.

    “…no matter who is office, otherwise it just looks like she has an axe to grind.”

    It looks like that… because it IS like that.

  72. Plain Jane
    December 14, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    I think she’s grinding a bludgeon down to a stiletto.

  73. Eric Kirk
    December 14, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    To be fair, mustard seeds are pretty small. I don’t know what all the crops were that were being cultivated in that part of the world at that time, but I suppose it’ possible that this was the smallest seed that they were aware of at the time.

    Yeah, but wouldn’t Jesus know about the alfalfa seeds?

  74. Brattle
    December 15, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    I guess Hoover represents the middle-brow moralist, casting false equivalence on the right and the left, the paranoid and the principled, while he rides above it all in sober appreciation of the true nature of things. Who was that non-anonymous reporter? Why that was the Lone Ranger Kevin Hoover (bring up orchestral music, fade to black….)

  75. December 18, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Only those who know which is the smallest seed; will enter heaven. Who knew it was all so simple.

  76. December 18, 2010 at 10:33 am

    I’m starting to like you, Lisa Derrick.

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