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Jefferson showdown tonight

The new Eureka City Council is ready to shoot down what the last council unanimously supported — the purchase of the now-empty Jefferson elementary school on the West side.

A neighborhood group has 2 1/2 years into working with the city and securing  partners for the space they say would revitalize their community.

But critics, including the new right-wing super majority at the city’s helm, want College of the Redwoods to take over the school.  CR backed out of negotiations earlier in the year after neighborhood dissent.

But CR is suffering budget woes and appears unable to take on this project.

Nay-sayers are getting a boost from liberal former councilman Chris Kerrigan, who thinks a purchase by the city is a bad idea.  His letter in Monday’s Times-Standard will win him accolades from the same fanatics who blew wads of cash but failed to unseat him from the Council in the 2006 2004 election.

The Council will vote on the purchase after a report by staff Tuesday night.  Mayor Frank Jager voted for it in September before winning his current seat, a mostly ceremonial position that doesn’t get a vote.  Jager said at the time that the city owed it to the citizens of the West side to approve the purchase.

And though he won’t vote this time, he can voice his mayoral opinion.  Perhaps he will buck his conservative base on this one.  Bets?

  1. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 12:29 am

    But CR is suffering budget woes and appears unable to take on this project.

    That is a baseless claim. Construction funds are separate from instructional funds (and decisions about which classes to fund). You have no evidence that CR is remotely close to a predicament of not being able to take on this project. It’s sour grapes to lie.

  2. Schwingerkönig
    December 21, 2010 at 12:32 am

    I think Kerrigan was last elected in 2004 because his 4th ward seat was won in 2008 by Frank Jager. Kerrigan was unable to run due to term limits.

  3. to big al
    December 21, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Big Al, How ’bout here, 6 pm 6th and K! Ready to Roll!?

  4. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Is it politically kosher for H to imply Kerrigan is a rightwing fanatic?

  5. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 5:05 am

    why doesn’t the neighborhood group buy the school directly if they have a plan and it is ready to go?

  6. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 5:19 am

    I agree, if Heidi & them have this perfect and secret plan, raising three million dollars shouldn’t be that hard.

  7. Heidi
    December 21, 2010 at 6:27 am

    Surplus procedure, it has to go to a public agency, if not the city, the next one in line. Besides, this is zoned public use, it should be preserved for the long term for use by the public, it is something you will never get back.

    And we do not have a secret plan, we have been working with the Redevelopment agency, with Mr.Tyson every step of the way. This committee, has not been a rogue entity, when Mr Knight has called and asked for assistance with a grant, we have come together and done so, when Mr Tyson has asked to help organize the design process to assist the architect with the charrette iterations, find houses to hold the meetings in, help set up and implement the public participation meeting at the school they have called on us and we have performed. Organize volunteer help for maintenance, secure help for grant writing, All of this has been done to assist the city.

    When asked “what can we do and where will we be the most effective?”, Mr Tyson said continue to secure volunteers, tenants for the building and look for funding sources. All those things we have done above and beyond at every pass. We have made reports in closed session, in open session, have met countless times with redevelopment.

    The one thing we did do (actually I did) on my own was engage a professional development consultant from Washington State to go over all of the construction numbers from the SHN plan and the CR plan, confer with a national mortgage broker regarding the economic climate and the merits of the project to make sure that the proposed project tenant, anticipated income stream, loan to value, debt service coverage ratio and the project itself was something that would be solvent and reasonable to expect to be able to fund in today’s economic climate this was in response to Mr Newman and Ms Bradys public statements. The results of those meetings and the conference with the mortgage broker (by the way, these guys are the best in the country, they dont even mess with projects under 100 million, they build port authorities, wings to international airports, research facilities for the DOE, but they are associates that were willing to take a day or two as a favor and assess the project.) The report was delivered to Mr Tyson, immediately, there are absolutely no secrets here, never have been. By the way, the project is fundable, the numbers under worst case scenario are favorable. It stands on it’s merits. The resounding problem which was obvious to both consultants was not economic but political. And you cant bring a knife to a gun fight.

  8. December 21, 2010 at 7:03 am

    Heidi,
    You should know better than to discuss topics in a rational and calm manner. Where is the screaming and outrage?

  9. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 7:28 am

    it is my understanding it has to be offered to a public agency first, not necessarily sold.

  10. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 21, 2010 at 7:39 am

    It must be sold to a public agency like Redevelopment FIRST. Presumably it can then be leased, subleased, or sold outright to another entity. Come tonight and hear the amazing plan the neighborhood has put together. It works. It makes money for the city. It creates JOBS. And it is what the people who actually live there want. Hopefully it will serve as an inspiration for other neighborhoods to tackle their own projects.

  11. Mitch
    December 21, 2010 at 7:44 am

    As a non-Eurekan who is completely uninvolved with this issue, all I can do is offer my praise and thanks for her 6:27 post and all the extremely impressive work it represents.

    If the new city council isn’t willing to treat this as a fait accompli gift to the city, Eureka is in big trouble.

  12. Mitch
    December 21, 2010 at 7:44 am

    …my praise and thanks to “Heidi”, that is.

  13. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 8:24 am

    So, what happened last night? Did the new council rescue Eureka from this money pit?

  14. Living In Eureka
    December 21, 2010 at 8:34 am

    All across this country, cities are looking for green spaces and community projects. Yet behind this so called Redwood Curtain, we must battle the city to accomplish almost anything. This neighborhood has worked YEARS to get this project off the ground. They have worked with people all across this country to find grant money. The city has dragged their feet so long through this process that grant money has had to be turned down & grant money will have to be returned.
    If we are ever going to have a safe & beautiful city to live in, it is time to speak out NOW! The Jefferson School group needs our help tonight at the City Council Meeting. If we ever expect to change our image, WE NEED TO CLEAN THIS CITY UP! These people have done their homework & they deserve a chance, they deserve our support! Be there; City Hall 6pm tonight!

  15. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 8:46 am

    By your failure to answer the question, I assume our great city has been rescued from the money pit. Rejoice! WOO HOO!

    This pipe dream would have been entertained by voters if there was no better solution. CR restoring and using the site is a GODSEND. Let us pray they reconsider and will use the site.

  16. skippy
    December 21, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Thanks for the good information you provided, Heidi.

    I encourage everyone to attend the council meeting tonight (Tuesday, 12/21) whatever your opinion is. Preview the agenda and summary, below, so you are informed of the facts. There’s many opinions floating out there, and few are grounded on empirical information.

    Here’s the City Council agenda for tonight’s meeting. Jefferson School is #17 of Reports/Agenda items (thanks to owl totem’s for his previous post):

    http://www.ci.eureka.ca.gov/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=6830

    …and the 260 page download of agenda summary. Jefferson School is at page 252:

    http://www.ci.eureka.ca.gov/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=6831

  17. Jefferson School neighbor
    December 21, 2010 at 8:56 am

    It is hard not to notice that this West Eureka neighborhood has been targeted for blight. We are expected to take on an inordinate share of the county’s problems, but not good enough to spend Redevelopment money on a project that would improve our neighborhood. It is our task to be the home of drug treatment facilities, homeless shelters, and low cost housing. No one from other areas cares how well these facilities are managed or what the consequences of the over concentration of these places is on the people who live here.

  18. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:12 am

    money pit. bad idea… no matter what political party one favors. Chris is correct.

  19. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:16 am

    We are expected to take on an inordinate share of the county’s problems

    Dude, you live in Eureka, not McKinleyville.

  20. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Seeing as the money pit was entertained by the council that just left, and the new council members didn’t hide their distaste for wasting public money, say goodbye to this pipe dream.

    Also, use a metal detector at the entrance to the council chambers because some activist just mentioned guns and knives.

  21. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    December 21, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Unfortunately, Mr. Kerrigan’s letter remits very little about how economics REALLY works and the total effect any economy has when considering the whole and its parts. Don’t bet for a second that any C.R. use would not raise national debt, not increase student loan debt, not increase bond debt, unfunded liabilites to the city, etc…. just merely a shift in location isn’t economic growth, although it is nice eye candy, like when flirting.

    Now, if he knows of a “full cash purchase sale with zero financing, zero borrowing, zero debt load, etc…”, then a completely different situation financially. Yet, whether C.R., the City, or whatever other entity (aside from the all cash deal), debt is gonna be an issue for taxpayers to prepare for because when it boils down to it, what once was considered 100% private debt, somehow gets converted into public debt all too often these days here in America.

    As a taxpayer right now, the least expensive result would be to tear down the structure and make it a grass field; but, when money can be siphoned from elsewhere through nefarious means so that a few local individuals can pad their pockets with more wealth or notorieties, then we all should know that there will be those who will want the greed compared to doing what is right and economically viable, as well as appropriate. This issue is a problem because what one feels is appropriate is not appropriate to another. I can lean toward those who already live in that area as a united group, but not one or two individuals with zero backing by other neighbors. So, this is what decision makers must weigh again – authenticity of support.

    Anyhow, the longer Jefferson sits, the less expensive the purchase price should be; but every new year that comes along is another year of new costs and regulations surely to make any renovatons more expensive.

    P.S. Thank You rural Humboldt for fighting for the right to live rural away from Eureka, Arcata, etc… where one can choose to live a lifestyle free of abandoned schools and political shennanigans that makes one’s lifestyle insecure and chaotic in their own neighborhood.

    JL

  22. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Response to the first post (Anon 12:29).

    There are two issues here –
    1. Money to purchase and renovate the site and,
    2, money to hold classes and expand offerings.
    CR has bond money (actually your property tax money) to purchase and renovate the site. The bond was not passed with this type of project in mind (see the original bond you voted on) and there are other facilities issues the college could attend to, but they do have that money and they can (legally, if perhaps unethically) spend it this way.

    However, the state has put a cap on money that CR receives for students. As a consequence they have had to cut back on course offerings because they do not get more money for more students. This is what the linked TS article refers to. This status is likely to persist for several years with the state budget problems.
    Ask a CR student or go to their web page to register for a class. Almost all spring classes were full/closed (particularly ones students need like math and english)by the end of fall semester. Students want more classes, but the college can’t afford to offer them.
    This means that IF Jefferson school is purchased and renovated with bond money, there is no money to offer any more classes than CR currently offers at their 6th and K site (and perhaps even fewer). The only way they can provide “new educational opportunities” at a new Jefferson site is to cut back classes somewhere else. This is a horrible move for students who are already finding that the small campus sites (Eureka, Arcata, McKinleyville) don’t offer everything they need, and the courses at the main campus are cut back to fund these remote locations.
    A logical business move would be to consolidate resources at one or two sites. This is not a business environment for expansion.
    Unfortunately the current college president is intent on building an empire of small campuses (Garberville, Eureka, Arcata, McKinleyville) even if the budget doesn’t support it and even if it doesn’t best serve students.
    The bottom line is a Jefferson School site is a waste of tax payer dollars, it will not provide expanded educational opportunities beyond what CR now offers, and it will dilute student access at the main campus where most students attend. Just ask a CR student or their parent if they are having a difficult time accessing classes.

  23. Jefferson School neighbor
    December 21, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Response to anonymous

    “Dude you live in Eureka not Mc Kinleyville.”

    This is the attitude I was referring to. Eureka, especially West Eureka, has been designated as a slum. People are so shortsighted. They can’t see the beauty of the wonderful historic homes and gardens. Other towns and cities would promote them as a tourist attraction. Many people don’t care what happens in Eureka as long as they don’t have the house the county’s (and the state’s) problems. And, certainly they don’t want to spend money to improve the West Eureka neighborhoods.

    Well, we who live in West Eureka are done sitting quietly by and being the dumping ground. It is easy to cry crocodiles for the poor as long as they are housed somewhere else and as long as you don’t have naked men with rifles breaking into homes in your neighborhood.

  24. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 10:29 am

    People need to remember that while C/R doesn’t have money to expand class offerings now, their purchase of Jefferson and drawing up architectural plans, submitting them to the state and then having the construction bid out and then done would take 2 1/2 yrs at least.

    Classes wouldn’t start until the fall of 2013 at the earliest. C/R has to plan in advance and the current shortfall of funds is only temporary.

  25. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 10:38 am

    If CR put a bid on the property and was ready to seal the deal, then they had the funding ready to go. The millions in legally-mandated retrofits would obviously take time to plan and deploy, but the activists would have that same delay. Plus, the activists would need to raise the millions to pay for the retrofits.

    CR is a half-blind sugar daddy ready to lavish this impoverished neighborhood with a gift horse. Remember who you are, how terribly ugly you are, and rejoice in your good fortune.

  26. Jefferson School neighbor
    December 21, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Wow Anonymous!

    “…how terribly ugly you are…”

    Your attitude speaks for itself. You have no right to speak for what happens in West Eureka since you obviously don’t live here and don’t care about our neighborhood.

  27. Big Al
    December 21, 2010 at 11:00 am

    I do not endorse knifes and guns, or violence in any way.
    Democracy is about evolution not revolution.
    The pendulum swings (way) back to the good ‘ol boys side for now, if the “other side” wishes to change things there is process. (better start now folks)
    Do I like who got elected? not so much, am I glad we had a chance to vote? HELLA!
    like Larry said in his radio interview, win some, lose some. better than the alternative…
    The decisions are made by those who show up. take part or take what comes.

  28. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 11:58 am

    big al
    I am sure these are all figures of speech, i know these people, have been to the meetings they are peaceful caring types that genuinly want improvement for the children and future of a sorely underserved westside.

  29. Big Al
    December 21, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    “future of a sorely underserved westside”
    is only one issue facing our community

  30. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 21, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Whoever has been posting here as “Anonymous” clearly has no understanding of the real issues. NO ONE mentioned “guns and knives” except said Anonymous. The money for purchase of the Jefferson School is Redevelopment money set aside for exactly this purpose. It is not set aside for CR. The Jefferson School Committe has put together a wonderful plan, ready to go, that would provide INCOME to the city.
    Come tonight and hear what it’s all about . I bet you’ll even get excited about it.

  31. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Your attitude speaks for itself. You have no right to speak for what happens in West Eureka

    And that right there explains why the activists failed. They vacillate between victim syndrome and princess syndrome. Ohh, they are soooo mistreated by the city and ohhhh the city must do as they command. To hell with what the entire rest of the city’s population thinks about it.

    in West Eureka since you obviously don’t live here and don’t care about our neighborhood.

    Oh, look, you were so arrogant as to spell out that it doesn’t matter what other Eurekans think about your money pit boondoggle — how you spend their money.

    And to reiterate, yes you are ugly (per your victim syndrome way of looking at things) and you turned down your sugar daddy (CR). If I had my way, I’d let you get what you deserve — for the city to embrace your project, buy the property, and then watch it deteriorate for years as a crime magnet until it’s finally bulldozed and turned into a vacant lot. You don’t have the money. You won’t get the money. It took several decades to build the library, and you think you’ll amass millions of dollars to fix this money pit? One too many doobies for you, man. Time to take a break and clear your head.

  32. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Actually, level-headed Heidi was the person to introduce talk about guns and knives, specifically with reference to fighting.

    Step 1. Scroll up.

    Step 2. Read.

    No, wait.

    Step 2. Receive services from the Humboldt Literacy Project.

    Step 3. Read.

    Step 4. Eat crow.

  33. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    At 6:27, Heidi talked about a gun, a knife and a fight with reference to this issue. Then everyone agreed how reasonable she was.

  34. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    You might want to get off this blog and get a reality check once in awhile. Take a look at the postings on yesterdays article on this subject in the Times Standard. Seems that a majority of Eureka citizens are opposed to the City wasting redevelopment money on this project.
    Kudos to Newman for bringing it back for a second look!

  35. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    The money for purchase of the Jefferson School is Redevelopment money set aside for exactly this purpose.

    That’s not a point in your favor. CR was using state money culled from a pool, lucky to get it at all. Eureka likeway has precious little money, and so to spend redevelopment dollars on a building that CR was prepared to fix by itself is a waste of Eureka’s redevelopment money. Spend Eureka’s money on a property that is going to otherwise lie dormant. Don’t spend it on a property someone else wanted to fix up for you. That’s common sense.

  36. Goldie
    December 21, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    CR is not going to create a healthier neighborhood nor will it create more jobs. The planned center will allow people to start new business, bring in grant funding, create community and be of little cost to the city while providing many benefits. Already the neighborhood has lowered the crime rate and avoided property damage by keeping the gangs away.
    This is a very responsible project created by responsible citizens and blessed by the former council.

  37. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Tax payers and fiscal conservatives should be outraged that CR is intending on spending tax payers money on another site when they are already constructing three large buildings on their main campus, to the tune of about $40 million in tax funds.

    The main CR campus has a large surplus of classrooms (as determined by a state analysis). They are way over the amount of space required for their current and projected student population. Why would they then purchase another campus only 7 miles from the main campus? As a tax payer I’m outraged that such cavalier spending is occurring.

    The local bond money (local Measure Q) the school intends on using for Jefferson was intended for upgrades to the existing classrooms and labs, not for acquiring new space. Sorry Anon 1:23 the purchase of Jefferson cannot be done using state money from a pool – that is for the buildings currently being planned and built on the main campus. CR can only use local bond money for Jefferson.

    Ask students – do you want better facilities and more offerings on the main campus, or do you another satellite campus that can only offer a portion of the classes required for your degree?

    Purchasing Jefferson School is simply poor fiscal planning on the part of CR and a waste of my tax dollars. Anyone who thinks the current “shortfall” at CR will be gone in two years and then CR will have money to hold classes at this site, simply is not paying attention to the degree of financial problems CA is now facing. We need to trim the fat – let’s start with this foolish purchase!

  38. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    “the project is fundable, the numbers under worst case scenario are favorable. It stands on it’s merits. The resounding problem which was obvious to both consultants was not economic but political. And you cant bring a knife to a gun fight.”

    I think what she means is that you can not solve a political problem with an economic solution even if the political argument is one of economics.

    Makes sense to me

  39. Not A Native
    December 21, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Somehow this reminds me of the Balloon Tract scenario. Eureka Government shies away from supporting its residents in taking civic control of dilapidated properties for fear they can’t do it. Instead, the City prefers that ‘someone else’ determine the makeup of development within the city.

    It seems to me that the conservative Eureka leaders have an inferiority complex or low self esteem where they have no confidence they(city residents) have the ability to plan and create their own environment. Almost as if they’re simply waiting for ‘someone in charge’ to take over and tell them what will be done.

  40. Dipsy Doodle
    December 21, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Not-A-Native 2:39 should stroll along the Boardwalk and watch as the Fisherman’s Terminal is finished up to see two projects that the city lead into reality and enhance our community.

    I think it is great that we have two projects competing for the same location in Eureka. With all the empty and closing spaces, it is encouraging to see the vigorous debate over the Jefferson School Site. My personal preference would be that it reopen as a school due to renewed demand as a result of a rebounding local economy. Good to see Jefferson neighborhood acting proactively and positively to better their ragged end of town.

    But, it seems I am in the minority in wanting a robust economy here. I have resigned myself to the fact that many people who made their money elsewhere relocated here and want to shut the doors to economic development (aside from grant pimping).

  41. anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Dipsy Doodle, will you please explaln or be more precise about your third paragraph?
    Thanks!

  42. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Let’s hope all the verbal violence is out of our systems by the time 6pm rolls around. Screaming is so ungentlemanly and unladylike. And it makes us look like such fools.

  43. The Monitor
    December 21, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Big money bought us a new council, but no compassion for anyone who does not live in their wealthy neighborhoods. the polarization will continue, the slum lords will rejoice and the less advantaged will get the shaft. Typical Eureka. The good old boys have a strangle hold on this community and change is not in the air.

  44. WheresTheTeaParty
    December 21, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Amazed how the “conservatives” are so willing to see CR spend out tax money when they have a school only a few miles away.

  45. mayfly
    December 21, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Eureka City Schools spent thousands of dollars for an architect’s plan to modernize Jefferson School. The adult school and the continuation high were to be moved to that site following the closure of the elementary school. The neighbors caused such a ruckus that the district abandoned its plans. Talk about a waste of tax dollars!

  46. bunny
    December 21, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Redevelopment funds went to the “Serenity Inn” on Broadway. Yes, that special spot that has the most calls for service from EPD,EFD. Oh by the way, the City wants to use money from measure O to purchase more police vehicles. My last count they have 5 or 6 new still sitting in the yard from a year ago, and money allocated for purchase for 5 more by the last council a few months back. Now let’s talk waste. Redevelopment is separate from the City budget.

  47. ann
    December 21, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Why doesn’t rob arkley buy it? He has fixed most other difficult other buildings in town. Then, we could end this foolishness.

  48. December 21, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Police cars do not come out of the police fund. All city vehicles are from the corp yard funds. Who, by the way, are not getting those cars outfitted for the cops. Why? I don’t know. Busy with other city vehicles I guess.

  49. December 21, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    You know if Arkley proposed anything on this property, nothing would ever get accomplished because of all the anti-Arkleyites he has had to deal with. That he would invest a single dollar into this community would surprise me. But he is very altruistic. Also a man who lives in a capitalistic society. So he has learned to create wealth. He does good in many other ways. Just a group of folk in this area uptight about it.

  50. Eric Kirk
    December 21, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    That is a baseless claim. Construction funds are separate from instructional funds (and decisions about which classes to fund). You have no evidence that CR is remotely close to a predicament of not being able to take on this project. It’s sour grapes to lie.

    Then why are they stalled in the project they started down here in Sohum? Originally they were supposed to start classes last September, but now the building they purchased is sitting there continuing to fall apart.

  51. ann
    December 21, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Ann says what? Arkley sees badly needed and neglected projects and acts. He will buy Jefferson School if something is not done soon. The same for the Downtowner, which is a blight that I have heard Cherie and him complain about.
    He is watching people meet, plan, talk, complain and accomplish nothing on Jefferson School. Government is broke. Old models don’t work. The progs only suggest the government grant model, even though it is obsolete.
    I suspect that when his frustration level over Jefferson School hits a boil, he will buy it like he has so many other, complained, studied talked about and uncompleted, projects all over town.

  52. Big Al
    December 21, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    thanks to Mike for the waste of time,
    you obviously didn’t read the packet staff gave you on Friday.
    Tom is way off on his prediction of declining enrollment in the future, one of my kids is the generation who has created this baby boomlet. lookout for more students than we have room for in the near future

  53. December 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Huge outpouring of support for Jefferson purchase at Eureka City Council meeting tonight. As one resident said, the city will create ill will if they ditch the project now.

  54. December 21, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Jefferson item is reaching 2 hour mark.

  55. Big Al
    December 21, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    very disappointing that the new council members are so willing to throw away 2 1/2 years of work…

  56. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    It sounds like a certain council lady has been reading a certain blog too much if she believes CR doesn’t have the money, and that millions of dollars in retrofits amounts to ‘slapping some paint’ on the building. How insulting! If this is the best the activists can do, they deserve to lose. Bring CR in and uplift that neighborhood. It’s about time.

  57. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    I’ve only followed the issue loosely. I’m hearing Fuente Nueva mentioned. That’s an Arcata charter school. Is the idea being floated of that school moving to Eureka to use the Jefferson site? I suspect all those Arcata parents will be interested in hear this news.

  58. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Where was Chris Kerrigan during the City Council meeting? Sure would have thought that if he cared so much about the Jefferson school to write a letter to the editor, that he might care enough to actually show up to a meeting to share his concerns. Guess he was too busy living on unemployment, not supporting progressive candidates, and giving his opinions as if anyone still gave a shit!

  59. December 21, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Council is convinced CR has all the money and plans to make it work but CR didn’t even come to the meeting. Amazing.

  60. anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    The Eureka school would be an expansion of the Arcata school as explained at the council meeting tonight.

  61. Goldie
    December 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Fuente Nueva is interested in opening a new school here in Eureka. They would not be moving the established Arcata school.

  62. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Heraldo, CR is not in negotiations to buy the property anymore, thus has no reason to attend the meeting. Try to keep up.

    If CR attended, the whackos would have all sorts of ‘secret backroom deal’ conspiracy theories spouting out of their mouths.

  63. anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Another thought – 2 people who spoke tonight said Eureka kids are going to schools outside the Eureka school system. Two of the three kids I know in my neighborhood go to outside schools. The school district should start answering questions why people live here but send their kids elsewhere.

  64. December 21, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    It already appears that secret backroom deals are happening. How is the new council so sure that CR will save the day? If CR is interested they don’t want anyone to know about it — except for their minions on the Council, perhaps.

  65. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    People got up and walked out on Mr. Newman’s complete misrepresentation of the points discussed tonight and the information they were provided last week.

  66. Big Al
    December 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Mike Newman needs to either shave his mustache or grow it much wider.

  67. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Well, Mike Newman has certainly lived up to expectations tonight. He showed tremendous disrespect and disdain for the ‘common folk’ by lying to our faces. Either that or he really is uninformed and stupid as well. He is presented with a GIFT, a well thought through plan to create a huge community benefit that meets area needs. Instead of embracing it, he makes up ‘facts’ about what monies and resources CR supposedly has. This after testimony from a CR employee that CR already has nearly $20,000,000 in unmet maintenance and repair needs on its main campus. He claimed falsely that the city would have to pay for renovation which is clearly included in the Neighborhood Plan. Don’t insult us that way, Mike. Many people were so insulted by Newman’s show of disdain that they could hear no more and left the room.
    We the people can take a lot but a total lack of respect for our work and our opinions is one bit too much. You created a LOT of serious enemies, Mike. And it’s only your second meeting. You have a great future ahead of you. Sneering down your nose and acting like the work of both the previous council and all of those people was a subject for your derision.
    You’re NOT representing ME or anyone else I know. Kinda gives the big lie to your oath of office, doesn’t it?

  68. anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    I can’t remember the name of the representative for the Development Agency so I mean no disrespect by not referring to her by name. At the meeting tonight did she seem totally unprepared and unprofessional? Was the first question asked of her a “plant”? I believe the question was “what will be left undone if we approve this plan”? She was able to rattle off all sorts of programs that would “suffer” but she couldn’t remember enough of the Jefferson School project to give the council a decent background.

  69. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    the same woman only spoke to the anti-Jefferson project speakers-she cuddled up with Lee Chapelle all evening. She was completely unprepared, unprofessional, and showed total bias in her conduct. The City of Eureka should be ashamed of their representatives! A redevelopment director who was ignorant and unprepared, city councilman Mike Newman who didn’t listen to a single person who spoke, mayor Jager who didn’t control the meeting at all-and when Newman was being booed for spewing false facts to the chamber, Jager stated that Newman listened to us so now it’s time to listen to him-BULLSHIT-Mike Newman heard many people tonight, but did not listen to anyone-self-serving prick! I never really had high hopes for such an arrogant pig-and now he’s earned my disrespect!

  70. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    I believe the lady from Redevelopment had the first name of Cindy.

  71. December 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Cindy Trobitz-Thomas.

  72. mresquan
    December 21, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    This power trip that the super majority on the council is on is going to come back to bite them.Won’t be long before Eurekans see this property and the balloon tract sitting idly with nothing going on but deterioration.2012 is shaping up to be a fine year for Eureka progressive candidates.

  73. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    It already appears that secret backroom deals are happening

    LOL! They can be sure CR has the money because they operate in the real world, not the blog world where anonymous lies are accepted as fact.

  74. December 21, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Well, thanks for that insight, Anonymous.

  75. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    “Anonymous says:
    December 21, 2010 at 9:04 pm Where was Chris Kerrigan during the City Council meeting? Sure would have thought that if he cared so much about the Jefferson school to write a letter to the editor, that he might care enough to actually show up to a meeting to share his concerns.”

    Where was Larry Glass?

  76. Quick Question
    December 21, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Could someone tell us what happened tonight, besides Mike Newman being anti-project? Did it survive?

  77. December 21, 2010 at 10:15 pm
  78. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 21, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    “Do we really have to adopt building codes requiring sprinklers?” Mike just keeps getting better. He was just told that State and Federal Law both require it Now he’s trying to get around it somehow by making city law conflict with Federal law. Good luck, Mike. I sure hope you sit on a CLUE someday. Nah, you probably wouldn’t recognize it anyway

  79. A-Nony-Mouse
    December 21, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Larry didn’t write a letter supporting CR.

  80. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    I think you should run for council and show us all how it should be done Mouse! Nah, I’m sure your more comfortable telling everyone else how stupid they are!

  81. taxed
    December 21, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Isn’t it interesting that Eureka gave money to The Serenity Inn and other trouble making half way houses but can’t put redevelopment funds into a neighborhood.

  82. anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    The new council members proved they are puppets. Brady didn’t even know to recuse herself on the Chamber of Commerce getting $100,000 from Redevelopment. She is a member. Newman needs a makeover he is creepy. The mayor forgets to turn on the microphone. Good luck Eureka.

  83. Anonymous
    December 21, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Give me a break; they are all puppets. Your either happy or not, depending on who is pulling the strings.

    Its not rocket science folks.

  84. bunny
    December 21, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Welcome our new city council, bought and paid for.

  85. cheesedick
    December 22, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Hang in there newbies. You’ll do just fine (and ignore this blog).

  86. skippy
    December 22, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Yours truly was at the meeting. Here’s my report– sparing the obvious others noted.

    Skippy wanted to see what all the hub-bub was about, putting faces to the names, keeping an open yet skeptical mind while balancing the scales of justice. My, oh my, what a meeting it was! I wish you were there.

    Familiar faces, people concerned about our Eureka, beautiful neighbors. Passionate about something close and dear to their heart after 2 1/2 years of arduous struggle and setbacks. Yours truly admits, the Jefferson folks– Sylvia, Xandra, Reece, Ruth, Sue, Richard, Lloyd, Neal, Eric, the children, and so many others– had me with their vision and determination, taking something rough and making it magnificent. They did their homework, coming together as community and kin alike. Heidi? Impressive. Being an effective and galvanizing community organizer unlike any other seen in Eureka’s recent collective memory, Heidi is one tough, hard-working, smart-enough, convincing and compassionate chick. In Skippy’s book, Heidi Benzonelli rocked.

    Council member Atkins was on the ball; prepared and competent as usual, leading the high ground for an already redundant process. Ms. Brady kept a cool demeanor between sinking and swimming, preferring to gracefully dog paddle somewhere in between. Mr. Newman? Skippy, wishing graceful consideration and kind thoughts to all involved, hopes things will improve when pigs fly, letting previous comments stand. Frank was … well, Frank. God bless him. Sparing and cogent in questions from previous lengthy council experience, Mr. Madsen was the voice of wiser skill and reason, mediating away from the looming and imminent failure at hand by motioning for ‘a business plan and list of tenants’ to determine the true fiscal nuts and bolts– and operational validity– of the whole shebang. By requesting a postponement for this information to be pulled together, Mr. Madsen allowed not only cooler heads to prevail, but also allowed a breath of life to remain. He ended the befuddling and ongoing stalemate in what Skippy reckoned would’ve been a failing 3-1 (or 3-2, at best) vote, otherwise.

    Heidi and the Jefferson kin– you got another shot, another chance, the patient is still breathing. That’s a good thing. Use it as an opportunity, get the details together, it’s reasonable and realistic.

    Skippy believes you can do it; you got it going on. But pleeeze folks… Yours truly wishes you didn’t hoof it out of the chambers like a pack of angry bovines midway through the trail in a loud and childish huff when things don’t go to your liking. That was uncool. Way uncool. Calmer heads need to prevail. Mr. Madsen was on the right course. Please take it. Thank you.

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