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BREAKING THE LAW: Humboldt’s Housing Element

A failure to rezone 114 acres of land for multi-family development has left Humboldt County’s housing element out of compliance with state law. The rezone is necessary to address a shortfall of lower-income housing.

A February 7th letter from the state Dept. of Housing and Community Development (HCD) says the county has “substantially failed to meet conditions of compliance” that were set forth when the state approved the housing element in September of last year.

“The Department finds Humboldt County’s housing element does not address the ‘adequate sites’ statutory requirement and no longer complies with State housing element law,” writes HCD Assistant Deputy Director Glen Campora.

Campora says the HCD is committed to working with the County to bring the housing element into compliance.

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  1. 69er
    February 11, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Damned if you do and damned if you do… I’m sure this will stir up the
    s–t!!!

  2. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:10 am

    “The rezone is necessary to address a shortfall of lower-income housing.”

    WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?! BUUUUULLLLSSSHHHHIIIIIIITTTTT.

  3. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Well, by all means, rezone McKinleyville into a shanty town because it makes total sense to place such housing in a community that has no low income services. Just as long as it’s not Eureka, we’re happy!

  4. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:16 am

    McKinleyville is one big low income service, anon. This is the state (feds) pushing their agenda through property owners and “developers” who are more than happy to make “mandatory” $$$$$$. SELLOUTS.

  5. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 12:21 am

    What does the general plan that covers Beverly Hills state? Where are they sticking their shanty town? Where is their McKinleyville?

  6. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:22 am

    excellent point.

  7. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:27 am

    What the hell does our supervisor have to say about this? What kind of “supervisor” is Ryan Sundberg if he’s okay with herding human cattle into our district and telling us with a straight face that it’s a good thing?!?! This COMPLETELY DESTROYS ALL CHANCES of McKinleyville and equally affected areas of becoming the types of communities that political candidates like Sundberg promote during their campaigns….AND THEY KNOW IT.

  8. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Beverly Hills told them to stick it. They were well enough off to not to become to be grant whores.

  9. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 12:40 am

    woops – mistake-tired!

  10. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 12:46 am

    WHY is everyone else allowed to use profanity and yet I can’t state a simple truth?

  11. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 12:47 am

    G r a n t w hor es

  12. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:48 am

    you typed that backwards, pete.

    Humboldt should be proud of this non-compliance. “Low income” my arse. Money Money.

  13. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:53 am

    haha, they can’t keep up with the censoring enough to not see something was said by somebody on the right panel.

  14. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 12:53 am

    That was not meant for you Random Guy. Heraldo keeps moderating my comments. The housing element is bogus. It is what turned Eureka into the hell hole it is. Redevelopment is BS.

  15. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:53 am

    they’re on the draw!

  16. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:54 am

    I agree pete

  17. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 12:54 am

    a comment of mine is now “awaiting moderation”.

  18. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 1:04 am

    Here is a tidbit. Keven Hamblin admitted that Eureka didn’t need anymore low income housing and that it was a Charade. They had to create more of the crap to obtain more Block Grant Funding.

  19. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 1:19 am

    I am happy to see that other towns are going to have to go through the same ordeal as Eureka. Maybe now someone will be able to stop this monster. The West Side has been the social dumping ground and warehouse all this time. Greed and $$$$$. The West Side has not been able to stop it but now maybe other city’s in the county will expose this “Charade”.

  20. Owltotem
    February 11, 2011 at 7:01 am

    Here is my answer to Mr Campora, No.

    Been to Merced lately ? Rows and rows, miles and miles of vacant town houses. A shortage of housing is not this states problems. If a county or community has a housing deficit, they should have the latitude to use means most appropriate to the problem and the community, not a one size fits all ratio.

    Why rezoning, why multifamily, housing is housing, do we really have a lack of housing )btw, there is a tent city in Fresno, a hop and a skip from Merceds rows and rows of empty town houses)?

    There was a lack of housing here once, back in the timber boon bebefore we built a bunch of boxes. Back then guys lived in floating little houses on the bay, there are still a couple around. (hate to wonder where the “honey pot” went).
    .
    In Eureka, I doubt the homeless problem has much to do with housing, however, there are a few cases. A unique (one off) solution may be found below
    http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses/
    these can be built on “skids” or axles making them portable. Dig the bodega, 261 sq feet. There is a gentleman named “isaac” last name escapes me with a business proposal to build these over at the Arcata creamery. The construction prices tumble weed proposes are really high, I am planning on constructing one myself my materials list was closer to 8k

    By the way, the City, attempted rezoning parts of the Jefferson Parcel to multi-family last year , said a change of zoning was needed to match the surrounding zoning, then you can get a conditional use permit for other uses. This is more bureaucratic, bullshit, pretty presentations, rezoning, plans that aren’t plans studies that state crap backed up by crap, stand the fuck up, lets live in reality and if we get spanked once in a while for non compliance maybe we can change what we are being expected to comply to.

  21. Owltotem
    February 11, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Anonymous 221:
    I think Beverly hills is part of LA County

  22. Thomas Paine Jr
    February 11, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Hmmmmmmm, Imagine that, Elected officials in Humboldt County ignoring the law…cough cough…..Illegal medical cannabis laws….cough cough…Arcata and Eureka…..cough cough……

  23. Ben
    February 11, 2011 at 8:00 am

    A point that is missing is that this is the 2009 Housing Element and after two years of fussing with it, Planning Staff, just can not make it work. Now they are blaming “public inpt” as their problem. One of the reasons that they are in this pickle is that they would not listen to the public and just forged ahead ignoring offers of help in selecting their parcels for the land inventory. The sad thing about this is that there are 60 people employed in “Community Development” Department and they just hired LACO at the tune of $115,000 to come up with their list of lots to rezone. So what do all of these people do in the department since they are not processing many permits?

  24. jed
    February 11, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Owletotem, there was no attempt to rezone the Jefferson School site last year. Get the facts before going public with misinformation.

  25. skippy
    February 11, 2011 at 8:46 am

    “The county has failed to meet a condition of the previously state-approved housing element, making it more difficult for the county to apply to grant funding and leaving the door open for more lawsuits. Community Development Services Director Kirk Girard said the county received a letter this week from the California Department of Housing and Community Development (HCD) confirming that the housing element is now considered out of compliance because staff has not met its January deadline.”

    “Girard said staff expected this to happen, and is hoping to come into compliance by April. To comply, the county needs to identify 950 units to be set aside for very low-income housing that are at least one acre in size…”

    …More of Donna Tam’s story, “State Decertifies County Housing Element Due to Missed Multifamily Rezoning Deadline” is
    found in today’s Times-Standard news here.

  26. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    February 11, 2011 at 9:10 am

    This is why the recent drooling by communal types and certain active individuals over the retardednesses of where the CDS autocracy and associated oliagarchs were wanting to place low income housing. See, part of it was using neighborhoods and neighbors (NIMBY affect); then, go to the state and verify the “known already as still not changed for the better”; then, well more LOCAL media news to stir-up the melting pot to report on chaos (that which creates debateable news)…… Such the games from multiple groups/agencies while the majority of individuals get left holding the bag deciding which of any sides they may or may not choose to support (for which the question is begged – are the “regular” individuals under-represented????).

    Hey, on a brighter note, maybe costs and property values will continue to go down to a point where not having a job won’t matter cuz not enough income flows at lower wealth levels to sustain that lifestyle for long – deep and dark days ahead for home ownerships, jobs, food and overall health. Greed is sinking the boat, not supply and demand from the customers vantage point, but definately from the tax collector and pyramid schemer types. It is all about the “# of units sold=market share upon escalating AND COMPETING population growths that politically are heavily built into the economy regardless of whether population growth occurs or not, but that major growth is great for pitting people against each other to create higher demands and prices on shortages of supplies = maliciously and fascistly forced upward valuations not natural to a free market system……”

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  27. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    February 11, 2011 at 9:24 am

    Ben does raise a great point about public input – staff at planning commission meetings, even in Redway area, made statements that they have been doing public input and cited the number of public input opportunities from all the previous meetings and hearings. Yet, the broad statement of both staff and the director more than once never really defined the number of opportunities during each and every phase of working through the various elements. So, it is no surprise that an argument could still be made about a lack of public input; then again, the PI argument deviation could turn into since it was tentatively approved and not all the way back to the beginning many moons ago.

    Definately jockeying going on for those who will profit from such multi-family and low-income farses – today, it takes at least two entities to tango in the permitted construction environment. So, which General Contractors, land developers, government agencies get’s many of the grant construction monies for low-income or affordable or whatever pseudonym gets applied to where wealth will flow and not flow???

    JL

  28. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Most people posting here would meet the “low income” criteria.

  29. Julie Timmons
    February 11, 2011 at 9:30 am

    If any of you bothered to read the published notice, McKinleyville is not being singled out. They’re identified four tracts right near me in Cutten for consideration. I drove by them and don’t see any major impact compared to some of the other schemes cooked up for Cutten.

  30. Westsider
    February 11, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Living in Eureka has completely changed my view of “low income housing” and the power of zoning to change a neighborhood. It is really about money and not about housing the poor or the homeless. My neighborhood has suffered blight and crime, because it is zoned multi-family. This means developers can come in and build a complex that will begin to deteriorate immediately .after developers have taken their check to the bank. There is no attempt to keep the sense of the neighborhood. An ugly cheaply constructed cement apartment complex can be put next to victorians.

    It also opens the doors to alcohol and drug treatment centers, mental health facilities and the dreaded six and under houses. Six and under houses don’t need licenses or permits to house six people who are supposedly recovering from drug addiction. We have witnessed the vodka bottles in the hedges of these houses.

    Danco is planning a large cheaply made complex in a beautiful wooded neighborhood at Myrtle and Moore. The neighbors asked that permits not be granted, but the sound of money spoke more loudly that the voices of the people who will be effected.

    Watch out Mc Kinleyville and other affected areas. Blight and ugly buildings are coming your way.

  31. Fence
    February 11, 2011 at 10:08 am

    H-IM 17 is an already approved list of 14 sites (APN’s) consisting of 113.5 acres in table Z3 of the housing element that have complete analysis in the housing element. To get back in compliance all the Board of Supervisors has to do is take final action on rezoning those 14 parcels. This program Girard is doing is a left turn from what was already approved in the Housing Element. No other parcels have to be rezoned JUST READ the letter and READ table Z3. Its that easy!!! Don’t believe that a new set of parcels need rezoning that is a LIE!

  32. Oldphart
    February 11, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Kirk G. has outlived whatever usefullness the Board of Supervisors thought he possessed. Time to move on without him.

  33. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    You are a bunch of elitist, liberal NIMBY’s aren’t you? Yes, living next to low income sucks. In case you haven’t noticed this place is poor. Maybe if you stopped fighting anything that would create a job it might get better. Until then’ maybe we should rezone some TPZ land and put THEM all where we don’t have to look at them (sarcasm intended).

  34. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Um… liberal NIMBY? Really? Maybe you aren’t clear about who is funding the ads that are fueling the backlash against multi-family zoning.

  35. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    I expect that reaction from meanhearted conservatives. I am shocked by the posts I have read here.

  36. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    There is also an area in Redway in contention. They want to change the zoning to provide space for multi family units where there are old summer homes- is this what we are talking about? Are they searching the whole county for spots they can change the zoning on?

  37. get real
    February 11, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    In the next 40 years there will be 130 million more people in the US according to the census. Of the a lot of the 130 million will want to live in CA and some will even want to live in Humboldt. We have to have a plan to absorb people.

  38. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Plan? That’s against my property ‘rights’!

  39. tra
    February 11, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    If U.S. population grows by 130 million in the next 40 years, housing affordability is probably going to be the least of our problems.

  40. Random Guy
    February 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Would Ryan Sundberg be in office right now, if every 20-square-foot campaign poster he had hanging in three places on every block, had printed in large type underneath his name, “If elected, I will make money by supporting 100+ acres of high density apartments and retail!”

    Would Virginia Bass be in office right now, if ever 20-square-foot campaign poster she had hanging in three places on over block, had printed in large type underneath her name, “I was a Republican last year, and every year before that!”

  41. Not A Native
    February 11, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Yep, DINO’s like Richard Marks. FWIW, I expected H would create a thread about Linda Atkins’ op-ed piece in the TS, “Progressive values are not demonic”

  42. get real
    February 11, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Tra, then I guess we are going to have a lot of problems. Especially with the failure of social security. But as it relates to housing it sounds like there was a plan to rezone 113.5 acres that was already approved it just needed a final action by the Sups.

  43. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Jed- Jefferson School did have a zoning change. From Public to multi-family. I think it was 1\4 of the property.

  44. pete
    February 11, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Affordable housing means “TRANSITIONAL HOUSING” such as The Serenity Inn on Broadway. Check out the housing element for Eureka.

  45. WTF?
    February 11, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    JL: Quit drinking that Ripple of the 60’s….or was that Gallo red?

  46. February 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Poor is in your mind. And poor is being forced to live in tenement housing. Many have lived with nothing, but if they had some land they grew and raised their own food. Forcing people into apartment living is NOT the answer.

    Do none of you have any kind of memory? Do you not realize that people haven’t always lived on Safeway and food stamps?

    “Affordable housing” is the biggest misnomer and rip off that has ever been perpetrated on this state.

  47. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    I disagree with Linda on a couple of points. Progressives are compassionate people and care about equality fairness. I believe Republicans do as well, but the methods and philosophies about how to get there are quite different. Also, I don’t believe Virginia Bass switched parties because of a more popular political climate on the left. She told me herself she has been leaning more left for quite a time and it was important for her to remain true to herself. She may be a right sort of leftie but she is a leftie kind of rightie. I don’t really support her but I think she shouldn’t be criticized for this.

  48. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Do you believe everything you are told Anonymous 5:54 pm?

  49. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    O.K. Rose, tell me where you live if you’re trying to survive on minimum wage.

  50. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    When many of the rentals are given to section 8, drug and alcohol rehabs and the mentally ill, it makes it hard for renters that actually have a job.

  51. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    6:20 NO

  52. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    6:25 you are preferred by most landlords. There are some who prefer Section 8s, but I don’t think legally we can prefer anyone.

  53. February 11, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Don’t be fooled by the crooks who are trying to get their hands on Social Security Trust Funds. There has been a concerted effort by the New Centurions to spread disinformation about Social Security’s solvency:
    http://mediamatters.org/mobile/research/201101280020
    I pray that cooler heads prevail, such as Bernie Sanders:
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Economic/Bernie_Sanders_Social_Security.htm

    Perhaps it’s a foregone conclusion that Social Security funds will end up in the greedy hands of the corporate rulers. It’s hard to imagine big business not taking every last dime there is to take.

  54. saille
    February 11, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    As someone that works full time, and makes above min. wage…I’ve been looking for “affordable housing” for awhile and have not found it. The cheapest places that are liveable (read: clean, and well maintained) start at $575 and those are few and very far between. If I make three times that (which is preferred by most landlords) I’d have to make at least $300 extra a month. Where oh where is the affordable housing you all are talking about? And I mean housing, not “units”. I have talked to many many others that face the same problem.

  55. Anonymous
    February 11, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Saille the affordable housing that is talked about here will not get you a decent house to live in. The builders of slums get all the low interest government $ and priority processing. They have no interest in creating quality homes for working people. They just want the grants and government funding. Redevelop funds bought The Serenity Inn and other such places are counted as affordable housing in housing elements of general plans. ”AFFORDABLE HOUSING” is a lie.

  56. Fence
    February 11, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Kirk Girard stated in the TS arcticle that “we anticipated that we weren’t going to make the January deadline …”. this means planning staff defrauded the state for 3 million dollars which is the grant that they needed approval for by sept 1 for the Danco project.

  57. Owltotem
    February 11, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    JED 810, wrong again, see item 2
    http://www.ci.eureka.ca.gov/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=6626
    I used to think they all were paranoid too, then I started fact checking. Sure a lot of coincidences.

  58. McK Voter
    February 11, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    “Low-income” in Humboldt County means you make <$31,550/year for a 1-person household. Low-income for a 4-person household is <$45,050/year.

    According to the realtors' lobbying association, only 29% of people can afford to buy a house now in this county. 71% cannot. Sure, about half of you already have yours, but what about everyone else?

    For all the parents who hope their kids can and will stay here, how will they ever afford to buy a house? Or will they live with you? Or may be they will be labeled "poor" by the lucky ones who got our mortgages before 2003.

  59. Anonymous
    February 12, 2011 at 9:10 am

    In Eureka the housing element states that you have to build 20 or 25% low income housing to get grants and government funding for projects like building the boardwalk. The “affordable housing” is the price you have to pay to get your other money. The city keeps taking the money and tries to stuff the “low income-affordable housing” into neighborhoods that have more than they can handle. This is taking the loot that comes with 100 pounds of shit then looking for a place to dump the shit. Remember the Serenity Inn is counted as low income and affordable and bought with redevelopment funds. YOUR TAX $

  60. Anon
    February 12, 2011 at 9:21 am

    This is not about building anything to buy. Apartments will be built to be rented. The rezoning has selected land that some of it is already built on that may carry commercial designation, TPZ or ag. The number of units is 22 per acre with the ability to double that density. This will be multi story apartments not houses.

  61. Ben
    February 12, 2011 at 11:26 am

    If you ever want an eye opener, just develop lots for housing in Humboldt County! There is not even the slightest interest by County Staff to reduce cost. I did a small three lot infill project, much lauded by Smart Growthers, and the cost of development was over $70,000 a lot. The costs would have been reduced if I had not been required to build handicapped ramps on both sides of the intersection that go nowhere! The requirements are irrational and Public Works staff has no concept of how to reduce the cost of a project, hence less affordable housing.

  62. Anonymous
    February 12, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Four recent subdivisions worth tens of millions of dollars were completed in my neighborhood with only ONE “improvement” to the main arterial into Eureka (Fern Drive). They added a tiny placard warning pedestrians and cyclists NOT to use Fern Drive! A brief tour around town reveals a city where speculators get away with murder…record deaths and injuries caused by 30 years of haphazard growth. Subdivision conspiracies are a way of life wherever individuals inherit or buy cheap land anointed with unquestioned (massive) public subsidies to develop… The conspirators defend their subsidies by dominating the GP Elements, workshops, hearings, committees, boards, and commissions, they dominate local campaign funding, they dominate ad-sales of local media, this is how their representatives and appointees have been “gettin ‘er done” for generations. It was a fun ride, building and financing higher-profit big homes and big cars that targeted big incomes, there were no tears when the wealthiest of the “commie-capitalists” were bailed out. To this day, most Eurekans haven’t a clue why our streets are unsafe, our sewer bills and rents are skyrocketing, or why 80% cannot afford to buy a local home… It was HILARIOUS to see Arkley’s lobbyist Kay Baker angrily announce in a 2007 Housing Element meeting, “affordable housing is (communist) social engineering”…just before the biggest commies on Earth looted the U.S. Treasury to bailout their social engineering! (I never-once witnessed ANY local media at ANY Housing Element hearings). Developers only cry “communist” when working people, who’ve been subsidizing their gravy-train, demand that public subsidies be used to provide fundamental affordable shelter. Who will tell the story? When you legislate to benefit the average worker, you benefit every class that rests upon them.

  63. anonymous#1
    February 12, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    It is not rocket science to increase the stock of housing. Single family homes are not the road to go down when in search of affordable housing. Try allowing/encouraging owners of large enough existing houses to break them up into smaller units. This would greatly increase affordable housing and add income for the owners. This is the trend that has happened many years ago in Europe and there is no reason that it cannot here. This would solve the current problem with state compliance.

  64. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    February 13, 2011 at 9:59 am

    The sad part about housing is

    Younger people in mass quantities are way too ignorant because mommy and daddy failed big-time at parenting with respect to the “FINANCIAL REAL WORLD” and its associated costs, flaws, impacts, liabilities, margin spreads, computer algarithms, etc….. Hey, video games are a good educational tool though for the military complex and the fascist corporate frauds using the pyramid scheme structure to bilk people outta their historical lifestyles that would still be “in fad” today if it were not for societal greeds that create high societal costs to steal the wealth of especially those lower-income types who are putting in personal efforts to make a better life, but only to fail because the deck is stacked against more people attaining wealth. So, “being the land of opportunity” in American political discourse is a false statement to make when it relates to “today’s America”. The POLITICAL lies are compounding upon past lies and more future lies – this is when the bubble bursts and society gets a brain-check.

    Societal costs outta control destroys nations, historical truth and fact.

    JL

  65. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    February 13, 2011 at 10:07 am

    anonymous#1
    February 12, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    It is not rocket science to increase the stock of housing. Single family homes are not the road to go down when in search of affordable housing. Try allowing/encouraging owners of large enough existing houses to break them up into smaller units. This would greatly increase affordable housing and add income for the owners. This is the trend that has happened many years ago in Europe and there is no reason that it cannot here. This would solve the current problem with state compliance.

    Response: Completely incorrect – the key is SFR for individual’s to live the best lifestyle that includes comfort and better health while also financially realising that land costs, regulatory costs, graftings and ruse profits, IRS scams and tax breaks, etc…. MUST DECREASE. Yet, those in control of the land and its associated financial pitfalls will not decrease the value when they know they can jack the prices up due to over-populations and the fact that Americans are too lazy when it comes to how they will live and that Americans are too greedy when it comes to the grandesque class level comparisons inside the head of the greedy who over-paid for a sfr because they are brainwashed, financially and just want to “look good to other members of society”. So, people are living false lives in droves because they got to be greedy at the same time being dumbed-down. It is a good thing that there exists enough good parents, otherwise it would be hella worse right now.

    JL

  66. Anonymous
    February 13, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Bad Hench!

    My mommy and daddy died when I was 14, add this to other circumstances too numerous to list, and we’re back to the reality that people need food, shelter, health care, work, and education.

    In the 70’s I had those things and at age 15, I dropped out of HS, enrolled in college, shared a one-room SRO with a Jr. High buddy who was abused by alcoholic parents ($40/month each!) , college was free, and I was trained and placed into a part-time job via CETA combined with a local employment program. I qualified for medi-cal and food stamps.

    I transferred to HSU and eventually started my own successful business in Humboldt County.

    If today’s media reported the fundamental hand-up services young people have lost since the 70’s, they might be rioting in the streets like their counterparts in Europe, Asia and South America.

  67. Walt
    February 13, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    It’s true, 12:43. I could afford to work my way through college because the people thought providing a good education to the unrich was a good investment. Now they don’t. Now schools are supposed to “pay their own way.” Like health care or housing, if you’ve got the money, you can play. Otherwise. . .get over it.

  68. twonotches
    February 13, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Feb.13@12:43pm Anonymous My son graduated from HSU w degree in Forestry after 4yrs in the Marine Corps. His younger brother, step-father, and I decided to reunite here in Eureka as a family. I moved here from Oklahoma in March, 2010. We stayed in a roach motel for three months looking for a home. This is a beautiful area and it seems every other house is empty. The realtor’s were not helpful, they were hostile. After signing a many page contract which I am sure was unconstitutional, paying four G$’s we moved into a little white shack w one bathroom. This place is unfriendly to newcomers and holds them hostage while it drains their resources, then laughs at their desperation. Currently we are looking for affordable housing anywhere else. Two Notches.

  69. twonotches
    February 13, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    While waiting to find a home here in Eureka I did a little research on the area. I discovered this city by the sea was once upon a time called “Murderville”. According to the legend in Feb. 1860, around four o`clock Sunday am, five or six of the founding fathers massacred native women and children @Indian Island. Then Sheriff Van Ness commented ‘served them right’. The current leaders and shakers have refined the art of slaughter now a days but with equally devastating results. Wonderful legacy. Use the 114 acres for cages for the ‘poor’ and continue the inhumane treatment of those less fortunate on your blood-soaked ground. It is Sunday, again. Two Notches.

  70. PLUTO
    February 13, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    The whole “affordable gig” comes from the bureaucratic leeches getting their paycheck to run this scam. City’s receive grants and government funding for projects they really want providing they also build low income projects. A few builders of shoddy apartment buildings are the ones that also make out on this. City’s get away with this fraud by telling the public that it’s affordable HOUSING. It is just satisfying a state mandate to receive government funding for other projects. There will be low income apartment buildings not affordable houses. This very thing has ruined the West side of Eureka. Affordable housing is motels such as the Serenity Inn and drug rehabs. This is what the redevelopment agency does with the grants and government funding.

  71. February 14, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    “According to the legend in …” Legend? Man you’d better check your fax. There we’re a lot more than “five or six..”
    Capitalists have always murdered those who had the resources. Nothings much changed in that department.

  72. February 15, 2011 at 7:14 am

    According to the realtors’ lobbying association, only 29% of people can afford to buy a house now in this county. 71% cannot. Sure, about half of you already have yours, but what about everyone else?

    Funny thing is – a vacant house in our neighborhood had six offers to buy the house outright, to use as nothing more than a growhouse. You’re right, the ordinary person cannot compete with that and it is driving and keeping the prices of homes high and out of reach for most people. Put the blame – at least some of it – where it belongs. It used to be people moving out of the cities, who had sold their homes for large amounts and had wads of cash that drove the price up.

    But that aside, the “affordable” housing mandate has caused more trouble than it has helped. It is a misnomer, it creates slum-like conditions, the houses created under its name (like Thiel in McKinleyville) when first built, sold for more than surrounding houses, offered NO room for a low income person to plant a garden or otherwise provide for themselves. Cramming people into crowded living conditions does not provide a life-style where people can take care of themselves. It just makes them dependent on Safeway and Food Stamps. You’d think in a county where so many came here to live the good life, get back to the land, live in a commune etc, people would understand that, but no. For some reason it’s just more fun to obstruct and bash and push infill. So the poor will stay poor, or they will grow pot, and further bring down the neighborhood. But the house they want will suddenly be “affordable.”

  73. humboldturtle
    February 15, 2011 at 7:19 am

    Give it up, McKinleyville. If you want control, incorporate.

  74. anonymous
    February 15, 2011 at 10:23 am

    The only satisfaction out of all this is watching from Eureka. We have been taken advantage of by the “affordable housing” scam and tried to fight it. Now all those that used to call us Nimby’s are getting theirs.

  75. Anonymous
    February 15, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    When I was young, I didn’t give a damn about “lifestyle”. I would have lived in a shoebox as long as I had the fundamental necessities of affordable shelter, food, heath care and education; the things this wise nation once provided when it cared more about a middle-class and a sound economy, than spending $40k a year on a prison bed.

    Once again, Movidad is correct.

    Legislating for the rich freed U.S. corporations to reinvent child and slave labor worldwide. U.S. growth in poverty-wage jobs and predatory industries creates more U.S. poverty, which is just fine with our ex-patriot corporate interests. What’s astounding are the local Yahoos who think they’re going to benefit, as the crime, drug abuse, rehab homes and cost of social and welfare services increase from a system designed to manufacture more poverty.

    “Instead of pot houses, why don’t they go downtown and make an honest living… like charging usurious interest rates for cashing poor folk’s last pay check; pawning their last valuables; renting tiny storage units for people’s last belongings; foreclosing services that offer auctioneers for home-contents; bankruptcy services; charging 10 times the cost of a TV or furniture through rents, fees and penalties; bail-bond fees for our modern debtor prisons, scalping a percentage to find the poor another poverty-wage job or over-priced apartment, or using good ‘ol American ingenuity to find some other fee or penalty to level upon the weakest among us”?

    “When a poor and ignorant people possess something desired by a rich and enlightened people, it is to be offered up peaceably”.

    Mark Twain on the U.S. invasion of the Philippines.

  76. Random Guy
    February 15, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Take a look at Humboldt Craigslist home/rent/etc. search right now, tell me we need new apartments and shopping centers at all. That’s only craigslist, there are plenty of other outlets for identical services. New buildings = $$$ for those who manifest them. To deny this is a blatant lie. Take a look at the Craigslists of areas around the nation generally considered “paradise”. That’s a trick suggestion: those places don’t have craigslists, and they don’t sell out to real estate moguls.

  77. February 16, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    I wonder what the percentage of ‘grow houses’ would be for Eureka? Maybe that is how so many are empty/unavailable for habitation. This place has too sophisticated a system of corruption for me to grasp. I guess if you are a ‘homey’ you are in, otherwise homeless. Kinda narrows the level of cultural diversion and lowers the degree of civilization. Same mores as the 1860’s, just different players. Sad.

  78. February 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    I have followed your posts since coming to this area about a year ago. You are obviously well informed and literate. Do you for-see any pendulum swing that would benefit the former middle class? Or are we just witnessing the great decline of Empire? Anxiously awaiting reply.

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