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People Challenging Corporate Power

[Announcement from DUHC]

EUREKA – People Challenging Corporate Power, a study group hosted by Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County, will have its first meeting on Wednesday, February 23 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. at the Duck House, 1402 M Street, Eureka.

Convening five times, bi-monthly, for informative readings, lively discussions and potluck dinners, this study group will examine the power and privilege of large corporations, and how concerned citizens can challenge the status quo and assert the people’s rights. Sessions titles include “Corporate Personhood,” “People’s and Worker’s Resistance Movements” and “What Does Democracy Look Like?”

Visit http://www.duhc.org/events/people-challenge-corporate or contact (707) 269-0984 to register or for more information.

  1. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 12:29 am

    Let’s invite HiFi, he needs the education REAL bad.

  2. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 6:03 am

    I am curious, how many wackos show up to these things?

  3. Walt
    February 21, 2011 at 6:37 am

    Only those who can see corporations are our Gaddafis, Husseins, Reza Pahlevis, and Mubaraks. Their numbers will increase only after our corporate masters run the country into the ground and large numbers go without unions, without food and without healthcare. In the meantime, all the normal people are obsessing with NBA, NASCAR and the oscars, like they’re told to do.

  4. HeavyWeight
    February 21, 2011 at 7:14 am
  5. Critic
    February 21, 2011 at 7:16 am

    A polite thumbs down to today’s banner.

  6. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    February 21, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Anonymous says:
    February 21, 2011 at 6:03 am
    I am curious, how many wackos show up to these things?

    Response: Good thing only a few are caught infiltrating the audience for another secret political interest sweating at the palms to know what is going on.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  7. High Finance
    February 21, 2011 at 8:18 am

    They won’t invite me 12.29am.

    They don’t want any views expressed contrary to theirs. They don’t want anyone to point out their illogic, their paranoia and how the real world works.

  8. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 8:19 am

    OOh OOh I know, lets disgust the infiltrators with heavy doses of patchouli :)

  9. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Oh Hi Fi you can come, I want you to.

  10. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Bring your Boss too.

  11. curious
    February 21, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Wasn’t HiFi’s identity revealed a while ago?

    Someone, fill me in. Who is HiFi?

  12. February 21, 2011 at 8:51 am

    He’s the happy, confident, reasonable, logical, rich, sophisticated, dashing, modest fellow of whom we are so envious. Haven’t you heard?

  13. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 9:10 am

    And has a new sidekick in the rational, hard working, generous, kindly, self-satisfied Your Boss.

  14. Goldie
    February 21, 2011 at 9:10 am

    It seems to me that HiFi is someone who needs a bit more fiber in his diet.

  15. curious
    February 21, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Excuse my insistence. WHO is HiFi?

  16. Big Al
    February 21, 2011 at 9:30 am

    I don’t know either, but I am glad he is back…

  17. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Is this meeting for real?

  18. Plain Jane
    February 21, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Of course it is, 9:37. Why would you doubt it?

  19. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Tom Stewart

  20. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 9:56 am

    maybe Lee Chapple (shitpale)

  21. High Finance
    February 21, 2011 at 9:57 am

    The REAL question is, why doesn’t anyone care who YOU are Curious ?

  22. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 9:57 am

    A polite thumbs down to today’s banner.

    My vote is for bold over bland. Don’t react to the Mirror.

  23. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Tom Stewart was a Republican. He wouldn’t attend this meeting.

  24. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 10:09 am

    OK not tom, maybe Lee

  25. Plain Jane
    February 21, 2011 at 10:09 am

    I couldn’t care less who HiFi is. He’s a caricature of a “yes-man,” always sucking up to wealth in the hopes they’ll drool a little down on him.

  26. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Hey that’s mean Jane, we love Hi Fi no matter who he is. We understand he genuinely wants what is best for the City and thinks he has the Fatherly advice that would solve all of the financial woes. Problem is, kids of such “closed minded” parents wind up on “girls gone wild”. Part of our responsibility as his “children, as he sees us” is to not throw temper tantrums, and keep doing what is right, be honest an loyal and true to our cause. That is good moral upright behavior. Eventually, he will be proud as any father would be that his children are capable, he will be open minded enough to believe that we do not have to do everything his way and that maybe our ideas albeit different than his own are plausible. We all need to “grow-up” together. Common-ground, Christmas HiKu, things we share,this builds family. He is not the bad guy, he is one of us, we live together, we are part of the same community, la’famiglia, we experience the same situations we just view them through different “glasses” I have faith that if we embrace eachothers perspectives with empathy, we will be closer to finding community solutions. And I am ribbin, there is no way in hell HI-Fi is either Tom Stewart or Shipale. Hi-Fi has a heart or he wouldn’t care for his perspective so deeply. Common ground guys Common ground.

  27. Mitch
    February 21, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Owl,

    Right. Just as we are all poor children in Haiti, we are all Hifi. Solidarity forever and, as Dan Rather famously said, “Courage.”

  28. tra
    February 21, 2011 at 10:43 am

    We should always look for common ground and reasonable compromises. We should try to persuade others with facts and logical arguments, and be open to being persuaded by others when they come forward with solid facts and logical arguments.

    But in order for those approaches to work, there has to be, on the other side, some openness to looking for that common ground, and willingness to engage in a meaningful dialogue about out differences of opinion.

    When that kind of willingess to engage in a good-faith discussion is lacking on one side (or, as is all too often true, BOTH sides), or if the differences in values or opinions is just too great to bridge, even with meaningful civil dialogue, then you just have to try to out-organize and out-vote those with whom you disagree.

  29. curious
    February 21, 2011 at 10:49 am

    why doesn’t anyone care who YOU are Curious ?

    because I am asking one little question, HiFi, and you put out long diatribes and pompous assertions that make the rest of us wonder — what is your line of business? You consider yourself to be our better but for all we know your claim to self made success could be total bs.

  30. Walt
    February 21, 2011 at 10:52 am

    We’re poor little lambs
    who have lost our way,
    Baa Baa Baa,
    We’re little black sheep
    who have gone astray
    Baa Baa Baa.

    Please lead us home, Wifi!

  31. Walt
    February 21, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Mifi? Fifi? Hifi?

  32. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    February 21, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Ok, so how many of us posters are feeling picked on these days? Oh, and the irony with some posters to speak all nice, but in the past, slam shots and name calling. If today is a happy day, that’s cool.

    JL

  33. skippy
    February 21, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Nice words, Owl. Well said.

  34. High Finance
    February 21, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Mitch, you only wish you were all HiFi.

    Yes Owltotem, I do wish what is best for my home town. I actually believe the left here, as misguided and uninformed as they are, also want the same thing.

    But I am trying to knock heads together & get some common sense here. The secret to success is not a secret at all, it is staring you in the face. All you liberals have to do is look past your political prejudices with an open mind.

    Now excuse me, this afternoon will be busy. I have to evict a widow with two youngins’, sign the final papers to clearcut a 10 acre forest and evict an orphanage from one of my properties.

  35. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    I hate to rain on the parade, but some of you kind folks need to read Barbara Ehrenrich’s latest book “Bright-Sided”, where she reveals the “tyranny of positive-thought”, the history of the movement, and the fallacy that it heals ills, solves social problems, or delivers wealth, any more than hard work guarantees success.

    It has its place, but the cult has become ubiquitous and dangerous, it can routinely discredit facts by merely framing them with the “negative” label.

    Maybe you are right, America will finally catchup with the rest of the industrialized world, (universal health care, education, new energy economies, investing in human and infrastructure resources again), by voluntarily choosing to compromise, a historic anomaly for every other major social change that has been achieved thus far.

    But, it’s highly unlikely.

    It would be interesting to have Bill Barnum / HiFi attend the DUHC event, and any of the other pompous Delusionaries who think a democratic republic benefits from ANY centralization of private capital rivaling the state…

    A similar private-centralization of public wealth and political power drove our Founding Fathers to revolution, after many attempts to compromise.

  36. retired guy
    February 21, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Monied interests are in control of this country. At one time, years ago, there was empathy shown by a number of these “interests” for the common folk, those who make up a majority of citizens in this great country. No more. Today we see daily how the monied want , and get, more and more wealth at the expense of all others. Regulation, meant to better our citizens as far as environmental and health implications are concerned are more and more on the chopping block (saves money for the corporations). Off shoring of operations by corporations (saves money). The attempt to lessen the influence of unions ( saves money). Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court, which allows for unlimited corporate donations to political campaigns with no requirement to disclose their source, which gives these corporations untold influence on election outcomes. This, along with the rampant lobbying going on give practical control of our government to these corporations. If our populace cannot see this, they are either blind, don’t pay attention or under the influence of these corporate interests. Needless to say, both political parties are involved in this situation. Money is the culprit, and these parties are both involved. However, the Republican Party is by far in the pocket of these corporate giants.Throw in the “Tea Party” and you have a really ugly situation. If I was praying person, I’d be on my knees a lot, trying to ask God for intervention, as I see this country going down the tubes in the light of the current situation. We need to wake up and confront the reality of what’s going on in our country.

  37. FoxStudio
    February 21, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Paragraph breaks make long posts easier to read, that is to say, readable at all, assuming the poster cares. Just sayin’.

  38. Mitch
    February 21, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    HiFi,

    Sorry to break in. Give my regards to the widow. Thank you for acknowledging that the leftish posters here also want what’s best for the area, despite our delusions.

    I’m sure you’re the same (except for the delusions, of course.)

  39. Joe
    February 21, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Learn more about the history of corporations in Ted Nace’s (former CEO) book “Gangs of America”. Most of it is available for free at his website.
    http://www.gangsofamerica.com/read.html

    The first few chapters do an excellent job at presenting balanced information about the history and formation of corporations.

  40. February 21, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Nice to see someone else ganged up on besides me.

    Is this the pot calling the kettle black? “But I am trying to knock heads together & get some common sense here. The secret to success is not a secret at all, it is staring you in the face. All you liberals have to do is look past your political prejudices with an open mind”

    Conservative, Republican disconnect is an amazing thing to see! What’s even more amazing is that people vote in and actually expect them to furnish sound answers, including solutions for why this country is BROKE.

  41. Anonymous
    February 21, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Maybe that’s why half the eligible voters are either unregistered or abstain in most elections.

    A self-fulfilling prophesy.

  42. humboldturtle
    February 21, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    header on hiatus, Heraldo?

  43. Owltotem
    February 21, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    “But I am trying to knock heads together & get some common sense here.”

    “The secret to success is not a secret at all, it is staring you in the face.”

    Hi Fi, threatening violence then demeaning your neighbors and fellow citizens by criticizing their intelligence is not a step toward common ground.

    Let’s try to work together here and see if there is something we can agree on.

    How about a community owned managed and maintained park, can we agree that that is good? How about stimulating the local restaurant business midweek (without using any govt subsidies of course), can we agree that that would be a good cause. I bet you would agree with both of these projects and I bet we could work together on them. Interested?

  44. tra
    February 21, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    I don’t think that HiFi’s use of the phrase “trying to knock heads together” really qualifies as “threatening violence.”

    I’m all for reducing the use of violent metaphors, but that’s clearly what that was, a metaphor, not an actual threat.

    But I certainly agree that demeaning one another and questioning one another’s intelligence (even when it seems well-justified) does not indicate an interest in finding common ground.

    Of course, as I noted at 10:43, finding common ground has its limits. Sometimes the common ground just isn’t there, and those who strongly disagree on a given issue are left with the options of trying to (1) persuade one another, (2) out-organize and out-vote one another…or (3) just lob childish insults at one another.

    While the third option is certainly the easiest one (and perhaps, to some folks, the most satisfying one) it is only the first two options that actually have the potential to accomplish something.

  45. Not A Native
    February 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    yeah, Hi Fi wasn’t inciting to violence here, but his world view does sees routine violence as appropriate, effective, and necessary. The idea that hitting someone to cause pain and shock will result in their thinking the way you tell them to is just plain incorrect.

    Its funny that while H Fi calls for ‘common sense’ he uses a metaphor that is totally nonsensical. Oh well, cognitive dissonance is inherent in the Conservative mindset.

    However, fear of receiving pain and the experience of pain and shock can change behavior, but only when the reason is clear and understood to be fair and just. But other methods of learning have been proven faster, more effective, and less risky.

  46. February 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Hard to be Anonymous at pot-lucks. Could wear a mask maybe. Tricky situation.

  47. High Finance
    February 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    That is just too silly to even bother commenting on NAN.

  48. curious
    February 21, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Spot on, NAN

  49. February 21, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    I’m waiting for the Roberts Supreme Court to decide that corporate “persons” have a right to vote, run for office and adopt children. Though I wouldn’t mind seeing the death penalty expanded to include corporations.

  50. February 21, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    https://humboldtherald.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/people-challenging-corporate-power/#comment-131871The complete corporate takeover of our government happened with the Supreme Court decision as mentioned earlier giving them person hood. So all three branches of our Republic is tainted.They have worked long and hard to accumulate this absolute power and if you think you can reason or negotiate any piece of it back to the people, you need to taper off your Xanax.It will require analytical strategy and tactics with an educated public willing to demand recognition, and democracy.

  51. February 21, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Super Heroes get a bad rap here. Take it easy on High Finance. He is here to save us from Heraldo.

  52. High Finance
    February 22, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Somebody has to do it.

  53. retired guy
    February 22, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Treating corporations as persons in any situation is ludicrous at best. The Supreme Court has it’s head up its’ ass, just like HiFi. I’m assuming that HiFi thinks the decision is a good thing, since I haven’t heard from him differently.

    Twonotches is right on, and if anyone thinks the decision giving corporations the right to contribute to elections with no responsibility to disclose has got to have a screw loose, at best.

    Eisenhower (sp?) warned over 50 years ago to watch out for the industrial-military complex, and their influence in politics. Well, his warning is coming to fruition and people who care about our nation need to be aware of it and speak up to their government representatives to put a stop to it.

    Is there anyone out there who agrees with the Citizens United decision of the Supreme Court? If so, please respond and justify this impossibly bad situation that has been thrust upon us by our “highest court”.

  54. Why, Hi Fi?
    February 22, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Yeah, HiFi is on record here supporting Citizens United. Because if unions can donate—–you fill in the space, HiFi.

    Tell us also why publicly financed elections can never work.

  55. High Finance
    February 22, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    If unions can donate (and they donate hundreds of millions of dollars each campaign cycle) can anyone tell me why corporations should not ?

    Retired guy should have tried to keep his brain active instead of letting it stagnate and become impaired.

  56. Anonymous
    February 22, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    “If you give the same rights to a lion and a flea, (can anyone tell me why…) this shouldn’t be called “freedom”.

    (Alexandre Solzhenitsyn, Soviet defector quoted after 5 years in the U.S.).

  57. Anonymous
    February 22, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Does that include Chinese-controlled corporations?

    Better ask the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

  58. High Finance
    February 23, 2011 at 7:41 am

    Repeating the lie again Richard ?

  59. Anonymous
    February 23, 2011 at 11:46 am

    The last refuge of a scoundrel.

    Challenge the identity of the poster and ignore the obvious fallacy that Citizen’s United vs FEC, will create ANY KIND of “level playing field” between (what remains of)big labor and gargantuan corporations.

    Everyone knows the names of two of history’s most famous anti-union, anti-poor, anti-immigrant, pro-corporate fascists…Henry Ford and Hitler.

    Think for 10 minutes about what they liked/disliked about unions and corporations and you might have two epiphanies in two days!

  60. retired guy
    February 23, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    HiFi–Screw you and all the other idiots who think that comparing the donations to political elections by unions vs. Corporations is a level playing field. Corporations contributed about 20 times the amount unions contributed in the last election. Give me a break. If you think that unions can compete with large corporations in donations, your the one with the impaired brain. Get a life loser!

  61. High Finance
    February 23, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Retired Guy, why don’t you do some research before you make a fool of yourself again ?

  62. High Finance
    February 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    For example Retired Guy, here is a site listing the 20 biggest campaign contributors since 1988.

    On the list, 13 of the 20 are unions. The unions gave about 64% of the total compared to 36% of the non unions.

    It gets worse. The unions gave 95% of their contributions to the Democrat party.

    The non-unions gave only about 56% to the Republicans, 44% to the Dems.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee

    Your nastiness looks especially stupid in light of your ridiculous assertions that corporations “about 20 times the amount of unions”.

  63. High Finance
    February 23, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    In 2010 alone, two unions (AFSCME and the SEIU) spent $100 million dollars on the Democrat party.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/99103-unions-100m-to-save-the-dems

  64. Plain Jane
    February 23, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    How many millions did corporations funnel into campaigns anonymously through PAC’s, HiFi? Didn’t the Chamber of Commerce spend something like 130 million in 2010? At least unions have to report how much they donated and to whom. Is there a difference between unions donating to politicians who will strengthen labor laws and military contractors donating to politicians who will spend more money on defense? How about agribusiness donating to those who support subsidies?

    At what point does wealth concentration become a source of concern for right wing people?

  65. High Finance
    February 23, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Sigh. The point is PJ, both sides spend too much. The Chamber had pledged to spend $75 million last year because of Obama’s anti business stands. It made news because it was unprecedented.

    That $100 million I listed at 3.11pm was just the “hard” money spent by just TWO unions.

    And again, as I stated in the 3pm post, Union contributions are 95% to the Democrats while corporate contributions are more evenly balanced at only 56% Republican.

  66. Plain Jane
    February 23, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    And yet Republicans received double the money Democrats did, HiFi.

  67. Plain Jane
    February 23, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    So wealth concentration is never a source of concern for right wingers?

  68. Plain Jane
    February 23, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    And don’t ya think unions donate to Democrats because of Republican’s anti-union stance, HiFi? Or do they hate unions because most don’t donate to Republicans? Who hated who first? It’s sort of confusing since Gov. Walker exempted the 3 unions who supported him from his legislation.

  69. February 23, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    “Obama’s anti business stands”?

  70. High Finance
    February 23, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    For pete’s sake PJ, can you just once back up your ridiculous claims ?

    The Reps received “double the money” the Dems did ?

    Any facts to back that up ? Any links ? Any credible sources ? That is pure nonsense, almost as bad as the Retired Guy’s “facts”.

    And no, wealth concentration does not bother me as long as it occured legally and that all people are better off.

    Yes, there is an anti-union stance among the Republicans. Countering that is an anti-business stance among the Dems.

  71. February 23, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    “an anti-business stance among the Dems”?

  72. Plain Jane
    February 23, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Why would you think it is possible for there to be unlimited wealth concentration and everyone be better off, HiFi? Well cared for slaves?

  73. Anonymous
  74. retired guy
    February 23, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    HiFi–Your stats are ridiculous. As even you know, stats can be used for the benefit of those supplying them. If you truly believe that unions did (and in light of the SC ruling) will continue to outspend corporations, I’ll bet you 10 to 1, in real money, you were, and will be, wrong in the future. How can you even purport to know how much corporations spend when they aren’t required to report it. So, as far as my facts not being equal to your facts is pure speculation at this point. I believe unions are required to report political contributions, right HiFi? So why do the corporations hide theirs? You and I know the answer to that. So you can take your facts and place them where your head usually is, you pompous ass.

  75. Goober
    February 23, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    What’s it matter to you how much money so-and-so has if it were gained legally, PJ? Gonna side with HiFi in the discussion with retired guy. Merely outclassed.

  76. Plain Jane
    February 23, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    The concentration of wealth in the hands of the top few percent of people is unhealthy for democracies and society in general, 6:42. If you don’t understand why, do a little google research. I’m not writing a paper on it for you.

  77. Anonymous
    February 24, 2011 at 5:31 am

    this is where you lose credibility pj. no comment on the links provided?

  78. Plain Jane
    February 24, 2011 at 6:37 am

    Here are the actual amounts (not averages) donated to candidates by party, not counting the millions spent by PAC’s directly to help Republicans and attack Democrats.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/index.php?cycle=2010&Type=A&Display=T

    Here is an article about the PAC’s donations not given to candidates but spent on their behalf, $3 Republican to $1 Democrat.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092706500.html

  79. Plain Jane
  80. February 24, 2011 at 7:29 am

    https://humboldtherald.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/people-challenging-corporate-power/#comment-132181retired guy, bless you that was such a well reasoned post. You must be a retired negotiator. SCOTUS rules that Corporations have the same rights as persons. This is a war against our way of life, and the big boys on the right plan on calling the shots, like in Wisconsin the Atty Gen. calling for “live ammo” against protesters of the Gov.’s attack on unions.

  81. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    February 24, 2011 at 8:20 am

    There are those who say PUBLIC UNIONS are all about segregation…. massive amounts of money collected and donated to politicians and campaigns is staggering. Sad that people who receive such EXTRA PUBLIC benefits in life have to force it out of the pockets of those PUBLIC tax payers who don’t get the SAME benefits and pay.

    In a free market private sector, ideally, the business will jack-over the customer by raising costs to cover one segregtaed employee over another. So, consumers help to keep segregating unions strong when they buy unionized labor’s over-valuated products sure to only DROP IN VALUE. Car prices too high – profit greeds and union greeds and gubbamint tax collection greeds; workers on the dock of the bay – same thing using food and other mercantile products to push onto the consumer…ntil the consumer can no longer afford…..So, unions have effectually put their own misfits out-of-work because to meet the demands of the segregating unionized work force, money has to come from somewhere……and it barely has been coming out-of-the union members wallets or purses or bank accounts, electronically. Alas though, in California especially, Governor Goon will protect segregated labor because he sleeps in bed with unions.

    Brown is a political goon and swinger of corruption who will take care of his own kind – unions – while taxing the citizenry to cover a limited few who are on the books for much of the State debts unfunded.

    If your pro-union – Brown is the guy for you

    If your not Pro-Union – Brown IS NOT the guy for you.

    This country is a freak-show mess.

    JL

  82. February 25, 2011 at 8:02 am

    So Henchman, are you stoned when you write this nonsense, or are you just a nut?

  83. A-Nony-Mouse
    February 25, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Unions have fought long and hard to make our klives better in many ways: 8 hour workdays, 40 hour workweeks, sick leave, worker protections, worker safety, and many more.

    Many (not all) Corporations experience change only to sell more products. NOW, GET YOUR NEW, IMPROVED, BIGGER, BETTER, SHINIER 2011 MODEL WHIZBANG!!!!
    BUT HURRY, because your old one might explode at any minute.

    Corporate control, like we’re experiencing now, is the absolute antithesis of individual liberty and freedom. You’d think a great thinker like HiFi would understand this basic idea, wouldn’t you?

  84. A-Nony-Mouse
    February 25, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    I think I meant “lives”, not “klives”, whatever those might be.

  85. High Finance
    February 25, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Unions were created out of necessity Mouse and did indeed achieve necessary changes.

    But they became the victim of their own successes and became corrupted by power. I do not advocate the end of unions in the private sector, they still serve a purpose. But public employee unions combined with weak or self serving politicians are threatening to bankrupt many states.

    I actually am in favor of limiting campaign contributions by corporations as long as they are not singled out by partisans. Unions also must be limited at the same time.

  86. Disgusted
    February 26, 2011 at 12:39 am

    High Finance says:
    February 25, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    But public employee unions combined with weak or self serving politicians are threatening to bankrupt many states.

    ********************************************

    Never mind that it was unbridled corporations that ACTUALLY plunged the world economy into a free-fall and most U.S. states with it!

    It appears that the weak, self-serving politicians were serving another master all along.

    Nice of you to interrupt your corporate apologies for a moment to concede the OBVIOUS need to limit corporate contributions AFTER Pandora’s box was opened by the Supreme Court.

  87. Owltotem
    February 26, 2011 at 6:38 am

    “But public employee unions combined with weak or self serving politicians are threatening to bankrupt many states.”

    Hi-Fi, Then you should agree with the healthy free market competition a charter school would provide.

  88. Anonymous
    February 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    As long as it’s not in a poor, deserving neighborhood where there’s “comrade-activists”.

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