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Arcata, Eureka name Coastal Commission picks

The Eureka City Council voted 4-1 Tuesday to endorse Humboldt County Supervisor Virginia Bass and Fortuna City Councilman Ken Zanzi for the California Coastal Commission. Governor Jerry Brown will chose the North Coast commissioner from a list of names provided by Humboldt, Mendocino and Del Norte Counties.

Councilwoman Linda Atkins dissented on the Eureka nominations.

Atkins said she would prefer someone who has experience with coastal issues such as those dealt with by the CCC, and that Bass doesn’t have that experience.  Councilman Lance Madsen said Bass has as much experience as any other candidate under consideration.

Regarding Zanzi, Atkins said she prefer a council member from a city that deals with coastal issues.

The Arcata City Council made its picks Wednesday, giving the nod to Supervisor Mark Lovelace and Arcata Councilwoman Alex Stillman.

Supervisors will take up the list of nominations on March 22, and forward them to Governor Jerry Brown before the April 10th deadline.

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  1. Reinventing The Wheel
    March 17, 2011 at 12:13 am

    Non-partisan office indeed.

  2. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 12:37 am

    Bass??????????????????? WTF this has to be a joke-fox in henhouse big time. Such a disappointment but so typical of Eureka. Poor town can’t seem to get anything right.

  3. March 17, 2011 at 2:16 am

    Didn’t Jerry Brown already reject Zanzi?

  4. Andrew Bird
    March 17, 2011 at 7:22 am

    I’ve been impressed with the competency and vision of Gov. Brown’s staff. Brown’s appointment(s) to the Coastal Commission will be equally competent and visionary.

  5. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 7:42 am

    Bass is a ridiculous choice. She’s in way over her head already.

    Lovelace would fit right in with the Coastal Commission crew of growth-intolerant, eco-oligarchy that currently exists there. It is a questionably legal group that is filled with like-minded special interest pawns serving other masters. Wait, maybe Bass would be qualified after all.

    It should not be a question of who to appoint to the commission, but rather how to abolish it and let state and federal law once again stand on its own.

  6. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 7:44 am

    I say no one from Humboldt.

  7. March 17, 2011 at 7:51 am

    7:42 Is that you, Randy? Sure does sound like you.

    Bass understands the CC and its laws about as much as my dog understands how my truck works. I like Virginia but this would be the wrong person in the wrong place. She has enough on her plate just trying to catch up on county matters.

    I don’t know Mr. Zanzi but I must agree that the nominee should be from a coastal community. Looks like Arcata, at least, understands this. Haven’t heard what Mendocino County, Fort Bragg, Del Norte County, and Crescent City plan to do. We often think we’re the only dog in this fight but there are others.

  8. Decline To State
    March 17, 2011 at 7:52 am

    Bass, who is totally unqualified and Zanzi, who has already been (correctly) rejected by Gov. Brown!

    Once again I’m embarrassed by the decisions of my current city council.

  9. Plain Jane
    March 17, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Questionably legal group? There are people who question the legality and / or wisdom of some of the CCC decisions, but a person who questions the legality of the commission itself isn’t someone whose opinions should be given much weight.

  10. FoxStudio
    March 17, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Apparently, to be qualified for a position is an automatic disqualification in Eureka these days.

  11. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 8:18 am

    In this case we should be happy that the Eureka City Council is led by thee simpletons.
    They could have been very clever and nominated a pro-development candidate who has extensive experience with coastal and natural resource issues. Instead they chose one nomination that has already been rejected and another that can be easily dismissed as having no experience in environmental/coastal/planning issues.
    Thanks Eureka, now Brown only has to consider the candidates from Mendo, DN, Arcata, and Hum County Sups. Let’s hope Fortuna also squanders their opportunity.

  12. March 17, 2011 at 8:35 am

    7:42 is not me, A-nony-rodent. As you might notice, I use my actual name in my posts, unlike the unwashed mass of cowardly posters who spend entire days on Heraldo – you being a good case example. Besides, I don’t recall ever saying a word against Lovelace, or for that matter, environmentalists. Personally, I would rather see Lovelace go to the commission than Bass, but it’s a moot issue anyways, as the ole Ginmeister will never get close to that position as long as Brown is doing the nominating.
    But no surprises, as the one thing you can always count on is that the Eureka City Council will out of step and out of touch, no matter which group of bickering partisans are in power.

  13. March 17, 2011 at 8:52 am

    There’s also a very good nominee from Del Norte County in Martha McClure.

    FYI, here’s an article by Robert Scheer:
    No Nukes Is Good Nukes:
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/03/16

  14. retired guy
    March 17, 2011 at 8:52 am

    As above, its almost unbelievable to think the Eureka City Council would nominate Bass and Zanzi for the CC. One already being rejected by the gov. The other obviously unqualified for this important post. I didn’t vote for these clowns and these nominations pretty much describe why. What a bunch of dunderheads.

  15. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    March 17, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Anonymous says:
    March 17, 2011 at 7:44 am
    I say no one from Humboldt.

    Response: I would agree for this term and say our neigbors to the north in Del Norte County deserve a shot….. that coastal communtiy city where they get Tsunamis that destroys their harbor and part of their fishing fleet (vessels). Share and share alike.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  16. Anon1
    March 17, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Little Ginny will have to be of very clear mind to even understand whats being said at the meetings. Honestly, Ginny has been an over achiever for years. Look at some of the statements she has already made about the commission. She will NEVER be appointed by Brown..

  17. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    March 17, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Names…………..

    First and last names are cool too, then one can verify the source and the information which provides transparency, imo. Yet, the heckling is obviously more directed, so have thick skin.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th

  18. March 17, 2011 at 9:20 am

    This is off topic, but if anyone missed the Republicans’ latest attempt to do the bidding of industry to undermine consumer protections:

    “Along with many in the industry, most Republicans dispute the need for a bureau…”
    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-warren-gop-20110317,0,4536798.story

  19. Ed
    March 17, 2011 at 10:10 am

    How much influence does Glazer have with Brown? He was his campaign mngr. Hope the Gov. has his priorities straight on this one. Lovelace at least values the coast with it’s forests,rivers, salmon and trails. He did, after all protect and expand Arcata’s forest as well as try to defend residents property rights from Maxxam’s damage as the president of Humboldt watershed Council.

  20. 69er
    March 17, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I see a many objections, why are there no suggestions??? Perhaps the only thing this group knows how do is piss and moan.

  21. Plain Jane
    March 17, 2011 at 10:49 am

    I suggest Bass withdraw her application due to being completely unqualified for the position in both ideology and intellect. Is that what you had in mind, 69er?

  22. 69er
    March 17, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Not really PJ, why doesn’t anyone have a suggestion as to who they think IS qualified. Does it take an expert to have common sense and if so present one? Mr. Zanzi appeared to be a good csandidate and may still be. Knowing the history of Jerry Brown who knows what to expect next from him. I didn’t vote for him this time and can honestly say that I never have, but he seems to have it together this time around and has presented the only sensible way out of our troubles. The only thing I would do differently at this point would be to push for a little more on the side of the cuts, the taxes are already in place and should be retained until the problem is solved.

  23. WhatNow
    March 17, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Bass’ is highly qualified in the (miniscule)minds of her supporters as she was known to serve seafood on several occasions while waitressing at the cholesterol kingdom.

  24. skippy
    March 17, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Today’s brief Times-Standard article by Allison White
    Link text

    Here we go again… for second time.

    “My psychiatrist told me I was crazy and I said I want a second opinion. He said okay, you’re ugly too.”
    –Rodney Dangerfield

  25. skippy
    March 17, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Times-Standard link is found here.

  26. Plain Jane
    March 17, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Did you not read the thread or previous threads on this subject, 69er? There are several people who stated they think Lovelace would do a good job, Mark Wheatly has been praised repeatedly and even a couple of people who like Zanzi. Did I miss any who favor Bass?

  27. Decline to State
    March 17, 2011 at 11:49 am

    69er says:
    March 17, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I see a many objections, why are there no suggestions??? Perhaps the only thing this group knows how do is piss and moan.

    I would support either of the City of Arcata’s choices, Lovelace or Stillman.

  28. 69er
    March 17, 2011 at 11:53 am

    I saw Zanzi and Bass put down and only Lovelace given a nod. Perhaps Lovelace also qualifies, the put downs far outweigh the atta boys.

  29. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    69er – put on your reading glasses.
    852, 712, 835, 858 – these are the times of posts where someone else is mentioned, or at least an alternative is mentioned (someone from Del Norte or Mendocino). 818 even described the type of person ECC could have nominated -knowledge of coastal issues and pro development. Geez… do we have to do all the work for you?

  30. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    The Coastal Commissions’ organization/appointment policy has been legally challenged many times. Commissioners are able to be appointed and removed at will by the legislature or governor based on political whim.

    Also, the appointees are supposed to represent conservation AND development interests.

    Discounting someone’s opinion because it doesn’t mirror yours is shallow, Jane. Especially coming from someone so disposed to emphasize her argument with a “Go F@*# yourself”. Classy and persuasive.

  31. tra
    March 17, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Perhaps 69er is suffering from the phenomenon known as Perception-Interfering Switching Syndrome – Poor Logic?

    Instead of “I’ll believe it when I see it,” those suffering from P.I.S.S.- Poor Logic try to make sense of the world with “I’ll see it when I believe it.”

  32. 69er
    March 17, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    The timing of the posts do cause some confusion for me as I am very slow with my two fingers. At this time I would like to make my own suggestion. I would like to suggest a very qualified candidate, my first district Supervisor Jimmy Smith. Nothing further to say.

  33. tra
    March 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    The Coastal Commissions’ organization/appointment policy has been legally challenged many times

    Yet they are still doing it…which suggests that all those “many” legal challenges must have failed.

  34. Plain Jane
    March 17, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    12:30 just made my point unwittingly. As he stated, there have been legal challenges to some of their decisions, but that doesn’t translate to questionable legality of the organization itself. I discount the opinions of idiots all the time, as do most people.

  35. Not A Native
    March 17, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    These endorsements are intended purely to boost the bruised egos of those who’ve been summarily rejected elsewhere. Handing out medals, awards, honorary degrees, and meaningless endorsements are all part of boosting esteem and maintaining unity and loyalty within a tight knit group.

    The council knows that Brown won’t appoint anyone they like, so they nominate the most unlikely. Its intended to pointedly defy the legitimacy of Brown’s authority. Its childish, like stomping feet in protest for not being given the car keys, but maybe thats what Eureka voters admire or relate to.

  36. CurseOfSims?
    March 17, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Off topic, but has anyone else noticed how bad the NorthCoast Journal Web site has become? They don’t get around to posting the print copy for a day, the blog is full of spam, and they have a school closing advisory (due to the tsunami warning) across their banner today.

    Hybrid journalism indeed!

  37. lame jane is full of it
    March 17, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    i love the reading the herald. pj, what specifically makes bass unqualified and what, specifically, makes lovelace qualified? specifics please and not vague assertions like Bass doesn’t have the “intellect or ideology.”
    remember, if someone doesn’t share our ideology, that doesn’t make them wrong… it just means we disagree. it seems to me, Jane, that you spend a significant portion of your life on this site defending people who share your opinion and tearing down those who don’t without ever getting into actual facts. did you copy that from the republican playbook?

  38. Plain Jane
    March 17, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Lame, any regular reader knows all of the reasons Bass isn’t qualified for the CCC and if you don’t, telling you again will just be a waste of time. Your claim that I don’t support my opinions with facts and implying that you or anyone else defends opposing opinions confirms it. I’m not telling anyone to shut up, like so many who oppose me do. They have the same amount of freedom of speech as everyone else. How they use it to advance their ideology is up to them. Whining about people refuting your “facts” isn’t very effective.

  39. Oldphart
    March 17, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Except when you want to kick them to the curb?

  40. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    pj, i asked you to provide specifics about claims you made and you countered with… “any regular reader knows the specifics.” what makes bass intellectually incapable of working for the coastal co? you said, you should be able to support that?

  41. Not A Native
    March 17, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Simply put, what makes Bass unqualified is she doesn’t possess qualifications. The onus is on the proponents to show qualifications(THE FACTS). Its not the task of doubters to prove a negative. No one is qualified until their qualifications are established(and recogized by the authority making the appointment).

    So, what are qualifications for appointment? I’ll enumerate them:

    Knowledge demonstrated specific to the job
    Skills demonstrated specific to the job
    Abilities demonstrated specific to the job
    Experience demonstrated specific to the job

  42. Decline To State
    March 17, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    Apparently qualifications are no longer required here in our local politics. All you need is a powerful, well financed agenda.

  43. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    March 17, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Facts – were stated in a different discussion back then, so no need to discuss facts ever again. When asked to cite a fact, just come back with an answer that disconnects that certain moment in time in a way that connects it to the past. There, one’s word is fact.

    JL

  44. Andrew Bird
    March 17, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Keep in mind that this seat covers two other counties and that the person Gov. Brown appoints may not be from Humboldt.

  45. March 17, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Lest anyone forget, Bass is proudly ignorant of Coastal Commission processes. Her misunderstanding led to the waste of tax payer money to send city councilmembers to cheerlead for her political friends at the wrong Coastal Commission meeting.

    Similarly, she is clueless on the General Plan Update which she avoided during her entire campaign for supervisor. She is in over her head on the county level, and there is no way she can get up to speed for the Coastal Commission. Her nomination is a joke.

  46. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    I’m still waiting for an intelligent post on this subject. Skippy? Hi Fi?

  47. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    So, if Brown sees fit to select her for the CCC; Brown is a joke?

  48. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Anonymous 916. Please tell us Bass’ qualifications. What specific experience does she have with coastal issues, environmental issues, biological and oceanographic issues?

    My low opinion of her is based on her utter lack of knowledge about these issues during her campaign. I do remember she passed on a question regarding fisheries, stating that she did not deal with that as a member of the Eureka City Council. It was later pointed out that issues related to the ice plant were directly related to fisheries.

    So the ball’s in your court. Tell us her specific experiences that qualify her for this appointment. I’m waiting.

  49. March 17, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    So, if Brown sees fit to select her for the CCC; Brown is a joke?

    Full on laughing stock material.

  50. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Agreed, much to laugh about here, no lack of material.

  51. 916
    March 17, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    I would agree that Bass is a poor choice for the Coastal Commission seat.

    Mark Wheetley is the best choice, but can not/will not seek it. Shame.

    Lovelace is consistantly anti-development and can’t reasonably balance the conservation aspect of the CC post.

    Jimmy Smith is a bland, mealy-mouthed politician. He was a better Harbor Commissioner/commercial fisherman. He’s past peak.

    No take on Stillman, really. Nor Zanzi. Why nominate a pre-reject?

  52. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Can someone identify a specific coastal or development issue that Mark Wheetley and Mark Lovelace differ on?

  53. Anonymous
    March 17, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    916, you seem to think there is a big difference between Mark and Mark. Can you point to something that they would vote or would have voted differently on? Start with just one thing.

  54. ne
    March 17, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    i might point out: even Marian Brady voted against appointing Zanzi. give the ol’ gal a little credit when due!

  55. heraldo is the joke
    March 18, 2011 at 8:43 am

    you call bass “a joke” as if the local politicians who share your political persuasions are brain surgeons. give me a break. when comparing bass and nealey, you are not truly comparing their intelligence which none of us truly know. you call bass dumb because she does not mirror your views and because nealey’s views supported yours you act as if she is supremely intelligent.
    you have a chance to lead intelligent discourse on this site but you continually contribute to the low-level name calling that passes for political discourse these days.
    lastly, bass choosing to pass on issues that she admits to being uneducated on shows a confidence in herself. i appreciate a politician who does not try to pretend that they have a grasp on something they don’t.

  56. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Really, nobody can point out any difference in any specific coastal policy or project that Lovelace and Wheetley have? Not one? 916, where are you?

  57. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 8:52 am

    Dear Joke – Lots of people have “confidence in what they don’t know” But, I don’t want them on the Coastal Commission. And, who said anything about Neely? This is about appointing a ‘qualified’ individual.

  58. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Virginia Bass is something of a dum dum.

  59. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 10:06 am

    8:52, when you put something in direct quotes, that means you are saying what someone else said. nobody said bass has confidence in what she doesn’t know. i said she had enough confidence in herself to say that she didn’t know something or needed to be more informed on a specific topic.
    my point (9:27 you’re included) is that it is easy to throw names at public figures. if a politician acknowledges that they are informed on a topic, that doesn’t make them dumb. that type of discourse is infantile and becomes tiresome quickly. if you are going to say someone is not intellectually incapable of holding an office, you should have some specifics as support.
    for example, 8:52 is an idiot because they thought that you could quote a paraphrase. for that reason, i suggest that that person goes to the adult school in eureka and takes a class on basic english skills before returing to this forum.

  60. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 10:56 am

    10:06
    “lastly, bass choosing to pass on issues that she admits to being uneducated on shows a confidence in herself.”

    Lots of people can admit to being uneducated on issues, but I don’t want them appointed to the Coastal Commission.

    How’s that for an accurate quote and comment?

    10:06’s lack of capitalization (Eureka, English, I) and misspellings (returing) does not support 10:06’s supposition regarding English skills.

  61. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 11:24 am

    10:56, that is way better. i said that so it makes sense to quote. not capitalizing and/or spelling correctly doesn’t change the meaning of what is being said. therefore, its importance is somewhat minimal when on a blog.

    once again, bass wasn’t running for a coastal commission spot last year. neely was the chair-person for the commission. logically, it makes sense that one would know the ends-and-outs while the other wouldn’t. bass, like all people, can choose to delve deeper into the commission and educate herself on the topics.

    speaking for myself and not you 10:56, i am ignorant as to the vast majority of things the coastal commission does and the procedures the go through. does that make me dumb?

  62. Plain Jane
    March 18, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Only if you thought you were qualified for a position on the CCC, 11:24.

  63. March 18, 2011 at 11:38 am

    A candidate passing on an important segment of information may show honesty but it doesn’t show
    confidence in herself to do the job she is proposed for. We need an informed COASTAL Commission.=for the COAST
    of California from Del Norte to San Diego.

  64. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 11:52 am

    pj and jean, how can you say that? you don’t even know the context of what she passed on? pj, you have stated that bass is intellectually incapable of holding the position. yet, you can’t say why she is intellectually incapable other than throwing out vague assertions like “she chose not to comment on something related to the CCC.” think for two seconds about what you are saying.
    so once again, i’ll pose the question and you can choose not to answer it (who does that sound like? bass?). what makes bass intellectually incapable of being on the CCC (please provide something SPECIFIC)?

  65. Plain Jane
    March 18, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Are you quoting me there, 11:52? For the record, I didn’t say that. People who admit they don’t know anything about a commission who then try to get appointed to said commission are dumb. Not to beat a dead moose, but Palin was in the same position running for VP. Neither of them even know what their responsibilities would be, but too dumb to not realize they weren’t qualified. These aren’t training programs.

  66. Plain Jane
    March 18, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    minus not in 2nd to last sentence.

  67. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    The point is is that if you run for a position and are asked about an issue that everyone understands directly pertains to the issue and you say that you don’t know enough about it to answer then you probably lack the capacity, be it mental or otherwise, to serve in that position.

  68. March 18, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Randy, you may not be the Randy I was referring to. But even if you are, you’ll notice I didn’t get back until the next day because I spend very little time here. I also noticed how quickly you reacted to (noticed) my reference (come here often?). I do appreciate your support for Mark Lovelace and am sure you’ll send a letter of support very soon. He’s by far the best and most knowledgeable of the local candidates.

    The Randy I know usually has smudges on his nose, hates anything “environmental”, and believes more Big Box stores and trsffic are the answer to Eureka’s economic woes.
    Hopefully that’s not you. FYI I’ve used the same psuedonym since I started posting. I did notice that your ‘disclosure’ did not include a last name. We all try to protect ourselves in various ways. Now send that letter!

  69. Anonymous
    March 18, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Anon 11:52:
    Perhaps you are not Anon 916, but here is the question I asked at that point:
    Please tell us Bass’ qualifications. What specific experience does she have with coastal issues, environmental issues, biological and oceanographic issues? So the ball’s in your court. Tell us her specific experiences that qualify her for this appointment. I’m waiting.

    I think this is more important than why someone thinks she isn’t qualified. Not being able to state a disqualification is not the same as a qualification. I’m still waiting.

  70. March 18, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Another great choice would be Kendall Smith out of Mendocino.

  71. Plain Jane
    March 19, 2011 at 8:59 am

    If you think Mark Lovelace is the best choice for appointment to the CCC, please sign this petition to the BOS.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/support-mark-lovelaces-nomination-to-the-coastal-commission#comments?opt_new=t&opt_fb=t

  72. 916
    March 19, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    I’ll repeat I don’t support Bass for the position of Coastal Commissioner. And, I do not support Lovelace for essentially the same reason(s):

    I view them both as ideologues that have an agenda to push. That is not the type of person the people of California deserve to balance important coastal issues brought before them.

    Having an advocate for a specific interest is a qualification for a lobbyist, fundraiser or NGO. I think a good commissioner would be able to balance the demands on the coast with open yet critical minds. Bass is owned by one side. Lovelace by the other. I doubt they would give thoughtful consideration of the opposition’s position.

    That is also the difference I see between Lovelace and Wheatley. I believe Mr. Wheatley has proven that he can carefully consider all sides of an issue. Perhaps he has strings that I am unaware of.

    Lovelace, by contrast, is an extremely divisive candidate. Our county and our coastline clearly does not need any more divisiveness.

  73. anonymous
    March 20, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Dan Hamburg from Mendocino would also be great.

  74. March 21, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    No, Kendall Smith would not be a good choice for the Coastal Commission. Like others on the Mendocino County BOS, she’s too quick to overlook basic environmental protection ordinances in favor of private property rights.

    Dan Hamburg would be good, but he’s not interested this time around. There are too many important issues he must deal with in his district of Mendoncino County.

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