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Hazy prospects for Emerald City

The Santa Rosa Press Democrat on SoHum’s attempt to form a new town:

In the heart of southern Humboldt County’s prime marijuana growing region, an effort is under way to create a new city. It’s been dubbed “Emerald City,” a name as whimsical as the effort, critics say.

Emerald City is the fictional capital city of the Land of Oz, featured in books and in the movie “The Wizard of Oz.” And in pot country, emerald can be a reference both to the green of the marijuana plant and the color of money.

“It was sort of an irresistible temptation” to call it the Emerald City, said Jim Lamport, the man behind the effort and who owns a legal document service in Garberville. Southern Humboldt County is at the center of the so-called Emerald Triangle, a prime pot production region that also includes Mendocino and Trinity counties.

Full story.

  1. come on
    May 30, 2011 at 12:50 am

    You gotta get better material. This is just plain stupid.

  2. Decline To State
    May 30, 2011 at 6:20 am

    I’m tickled with the idea but seriously doubt the tax base is there to support it.

    Good luck!

  3. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    May 30, 2011 at 7:39 am

    Be careful of what you ask for with respect to government services. Usually, those who refuse to fend for themselves demand that others fend for them.

    More political coverage means more power and control. County services are not all cracked-up pomp and circumstance like groupees make-it out to be. If taxes are meant to take your money under threat when you disagree, then I believe all those who agree can donate the proceeds (like Jefferson neighborhood residents) while the rest of us will refuse the service. Afterall, after taxes are collected, I blame less these folks in SoHo and more those whom they entrust who end-up wasting taxe dollars and coming back for more scheme believers.

    Jeffrey Lytle
    McKinleyville – 5th District

  4. tbird
    May 30, 2011 at 7:52 am

    I don’t think emerald city is a name for just pot and money. We do live in a very lush vegitation area, that is “green” many days of the year. Its just sometimes a bummer how it will be so closely tied to pot.

  5. High Finance
    May 30, 2011 at 8:24 am

    We could ship all our zombies and other drug culture victims to this hell hole called “Emerald City”.

  6. May 30, 2011 at 8:27 am

    My god, HiFi. If they ever get organized, you’re dooOOOoomed! Zombies from SoHum. What a concept!

  7. Green goo
    May 30, 2011 at 8:29 am

    With Cliffy-poo as the whiz

  8. Norah
    May 30, 2011 at 9:25 am

    HiFi

    I truly hope you aren’t so mean spirited and prejudiced in person. Lots of different types of people live in SoHum; you might actually like some of us.

  9. grouchy
    May 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    I like the idea of more local government & agree that it’s the people on the ground who know the area best, which ought to lead at least to better data for decision makers on touchy subjects like law enforcement and land use planning.

    But here are my concerns with Emerald City (aside from the fact that I hate the name Emerald City).

    First, re financial feasibility: nobody knows when/if mj will be fully legalized. (A legal eagle pointed out that even med mj isn’t really legal — Prop 215 only restricts enforcement of mj regulations for medical use. Don’t know if this is the correct interpretation, but if so, beeeee careful out there.) And even when/if it is, the consequences for Humboldt County are unknown — could be great, could be catastrophic, or anywhere in between, who knows. So if people want a city they had better be prepared to finance it without mj, and if all the good stuff happens, well, that’s great.

    Secondly, it seems doubtful that LAFCo would EVER approve such a gigantic rural area around a tiny “urban” hub. LAFCo’s whole purpose is to prevent urban sprawl. Incorporation encourages urban sprawl by legitimizing provision of urban services within its boundaries.

    Thirdly — and possibly most importantly — remember that only a few dozen people have even come to these EC gatherings. Almost everyone BY FAR that I’ve talked to about this in SoHum, from all different ends of the political spectrum, think this is a ridiiculous and unfeasible idea, for reasons that are likewise all over the spectrum. It’s interesting because most people bitch about county govt all the time.

    Finally, the people of SoHum, traditional and countercultural, have a long history of being independent cusses, who do things for themselves, for good or for bad. As a result, for the most part, they have not engaged in government processes except to occasionally show up at meetings when they feel threatened. To be fair, it’s an uphill battle to try to change entrenched systems. A lot can be, and has been, done outside the system. But if you’re going to create a government, and then govern it, you have to learn to work inside the system. And you have to accept that you will BECOME the system and then the people will be bitching at you, instead of [insert name of your favorite official or staff here ].

    The proponents have a long way to go. I do not wish to discourage them, because at the very least talking about self-government ought to get us thinking carefully about the future of SoHum. But I suggest that everyone who wants self-government start going to meetings — and run for public office. It might be your VFD. Or it might be the school board or the healthcare district board, or a services district if you live within those boundaries. Put yourself in the hot seat and get ready for self-government.

  10. suzy blah blah
    May 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    I feel that the best route to take at this early phase is to drop the the incorporation process which proved too difficult in the 90s when Lamport promoted a similar idea of restructuring the boundaries to form a new county here called Sequoia Co. Instead, this time, to surmount and bypass this bureaucratic obstacle of incorporation, I propose that we use the more realistic concept of simply renaming Garberville. That way we will not be trying to unsuccessfully change the structure of our area as Lamport did the first time out. It would be a win win situation. We get the name but we avoid the political mess of incorporation.

    Of course the choice of the name itself is not yet a done deal, the community down here is still open to other input. I myself prefer the name “Emerald City” which I feel is by far the most fitting symbolically, and the most financial as well. But as of now the renaming process is still in its early stages and open to other suggestions at this time.

  11. Not A Native
    May 30, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Well Suzy, I’m no authority but I suspect the only “official” designation of the place name ‘Garberville’ is the US Postal Service post office. Lots of times I see ‘Garberville-Redway’ as the place name too. Dunno how the USPS reassigns names to their post offices, my guess is they’d consider a change if the HumCo supes and Senators/Congress people requested and appropriated funds to do it.

  12. suzy blah blah
    May 30, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    NAN -thanks for the input. Your idea of contacting the supes and congress people is an excellent one. The proper funding is available, it’s just a matter of appropriation. I’ll be contacting Jim again soon and I’ll appeal to him with this new strategic direction and see if we can try and temper the original overly radical proposal. I think we can make it real this time.

    Be keepin’ you updated as to the progression of the name change proposal idea’s progression as I confer, converse, and otherwise hob-nob with other local “wizards”. As of now, the name “Emerald City” is by far the most popular and has the lead position in the running. I haven’t heard any other suggestions that can touch it.

  13. Oldphart
    May 30, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Instead of “Garberville-Redway” the USPS could refer to the area as the “Emerald City – Oz”. What a boost for tourism. Man. Wow.

  14. Anonymous
    May 30, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Except guess what? There are people around here like me who are not happy about the pot industry and what it has done to our community.

  15. Mr. Nice
    May 30, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Well Suzy, I’m no authority

    We change a street, they change a street. Town, same shit. Change a state name, fuck it.

    The town petitions the name change and local government folks vote on and approve it. Like this would be petition to change Garberville to Emerald City, adopt resolution, deliberate appeals, certify, enact, and all that other kinna government motion to change shit.

    Why doesn’t nobody want to use Hellanug, CA or Dosialand, CA or PotCity, CA or icmag.com or some other shit?

    Once that name is flipped around, just change the name of all the other spots. Change all those Schofield spots to Weedfield. Buck Mountain Creek to Bud Mountain Creek.

  16. "HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE"
    May 30, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Mr. Nice is on to something,

    Adopt-a-Freeway sign style……..

    JL

  17. Anonymous
    May 30, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    It won’t happen. You are wasting words.

  18. Cristina Bauss
    May 30, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Um, I’d just like to point out that there are post offices in both Garberville AND Redway. So, it’s not a matter of “Garberville” or “Garberville-Redway.” They’re two separate towns. I don’t think people up in the northern metropolises would like it too much if we hill folk were saying, “Is it ‘Eureka,’ or ‘Eureka-Arcata’?”

  19. Not A Native
    May 31, 2011 at 12:18 am

    Christina, you’re stuck in a mindset or maybe you just don’t understand. Some people want to rename the area. That’s a political decision. The number of post offices in the area is irrelevant. Areas can have multiple post offices with similar names like Emerald East and Emerald West.

    Playing playing the victim card, imagining that ‘outsiders’ from Arcata/Eureka look down and want to demean SoHum ‘hill folk’, is merely projecting your own low self esteem and insecurities onto others. As a matter of fact, the “Arcata/Eureka” airport is located in the unincorporated place ‘McKinleyville’. And few in NoHum feel disgraced, humiliated, or abased by that.

    Both Eureka and Arcata are incorporated cities. ‘Town’ isn’t a legal entity in CA. If the residents of the Garberville and Redway places don’t overwhelmingly lobby the Government to change their place names, it simply won’t happen.

  20. Down the Road
    May 31, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Just curious. Hi-Fi has two logos. One is a blue one-
    eyed blob and the other is an angry red square.
    Will the real Hi-Fi please stand up.

  21. May 31, 2011 at 8:21 am

    The avatars (or logos, as you call them) are based on your email address. When Hifi shows up as the angry red blob it’s because he typo’d his email addy in his haste to share his wit with the world.

  22. Teacher
    May 31, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Little heads up Mr. Nice (done in my best Mr. Nice voice), marijauna ain’t that hard to grow and shit. Shit is getting close to being legal and that means the bottom is dropping out of the price and shit. If So-Hum wants to attach its entire identity to a plant that is about to be worth as much as wine grapes and shit (think Napa changing its name to Wineville), it can but it seems stupid and meaningless. And shit.

    At this point in time, why does So-Hum need to advertise their affinity for weed to the rest of the world?

  23. Michael McKaskle
    May 31, 2011 at 11:06 am

    It is a ludicrous idea. Also a waste of effort that the loons could be spending lobbying the county for a general plan they like, but they ( Jim Lamport excluded) don’t participate in local government as is. I had to force Dan to learn how much Point Arena spends on It’s government as an example of what we would have to spend.

  24. Fact Checker
    May 31, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    “Garberville Community Services District.

    Redway Community Services District
    Chair: John Rogers
    Vice-Chair: Michael McKaskle”

    Michael McKaskle a.k.a. Teacher???

  25. Fact Checker
    May 31, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Same avatar.

  26. Fact Checker
    May 31, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Nevermind. That avatar is replete on this page.

  27. Cristina Bauss
    May 31, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Jesus, NAN, chill out. I’m not “playing the victim card.” Just pointing out a simple fact. I wasn’t suggesting that people up north are demeaning SoHum hill folk. Just trying to clarify something, because a lot of times, geographical ignorance results in people speaking in circles around each other. I know plenty of people down here who, to my horror, don’t know jack about the geography up there. It goes both ways.

  28. Random Guy
    May 31, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    I know plenty of people from where you’re from, cristina, who, like most people, take where they’re stationed for granted. Yokels are the easiest to dupe. Like would you believe some folks in sohum have been duped into thinking it’s for their benefit to make the freeway bigger through Richardson Grove? Gullible yokels, their hearts are in the right place.

  29. Cristina Bauss
    May 31, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    You don’t know where I’m from, any more than I know where you’re from – even though I post under my real name, while you prefer to spew your bile from behind the veil of anonymity.

    By the way, this isn’t the Richardson Grove thread. Stay on topic.

  30. Teacher
    May 31, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Christina, I believe that you are on the wrong blog. You want to stay on topic, post under your real name, and post sincere thoughts/concerns.
    “Yokels are the easiest to dupe”??? Keep the great posts coming Random Guy.

  31. Cristina Bauss
    May 31, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    Hm. You might be on to something there, Teacher. Guess I’ll get off my computer and go have a beer with Jeffrey Lytle and Michael McKaskle!

    Seriously, though… I couldn’t go to the Briceland meeting, so I haven’t seen the full scope of the Emerald City proponents’ ideas. So, the first thought that comes to my mind is the question: if past conversations about incorporation haven’t been fruitful, why does anyone think this apparently even more ambitious idea will take hold?

    Having attended plenty of community meetings in my time as a reporter, I must grudgingly agree with Mr. McKaskle’s sentiments. People will turn out en masse for whatever the grievance or controversy of the month is, but the hard work of governance – whether it’s government or non-profit entities – always seems to be taken on by a small group of dedicated public servants and volunteers.

  32. Teacher
    May 31, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    I guess the idea is mildly entertaining I just don’t understand how Lamport expects to get widespread support for this new city. What reason would the majority of the people in Redway/G’ville have for supporting this idea?

  33. Random Guy
    May 31, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    No, cristina, I don’t know you at all. Why would I assume that? Not anymore than I’d assume you’d know me? Don’t flatter yourself. Just blog blab…which is why I don’t hesitate to say in ernest:

    You moron, I’m telling you your ideas are fucked up for exactly the same reasons you’re telling me my ideas are fucked up. “Wrong” “Ignorant” “Misinformed” “Conspiracy” “Negative” “Alarmist” choose this week’s synonym. There happens to be a real issue behind it that I AM concerned about, this being your peanut gallery for the literature you have promoted. Go promote some more freeway!

  34. Cristina Bauss
    May 31, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    Since “the majority of the people” in Redway and Garberville haven’t been polled about the Emerald City idea, there’s no way of knowing whether there’s a single reason they would support it. There is, of course, fairly widespread dissatisfaction with how SoHum gets shafted in terms of county services – the possibility of the Sheriff’s Substation being shut down being the latest example. So, that would probably be the great unifying issue. How that’s balanced with the general uneasiness, among many long-time residents, of being permanently and *officially* associated with the marijuana industry is an interesting question indeed.

  35. Random Guy
    May 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    “There is, of course, fairly widespread dissatisfaction with how SoHum gets shafted in terms of county services – the possibility of the Sheriff’s Substation being shut down being the latest example.”

    …and still the state says sohum must have over $10,000,000 spent to make the freeway bigger through there. For the sake of you shafted, permanent residence, of course. Since “the majority of people” in sohum weren’t polled as to the wisdom and welcome of the idea, your journalistic words carry significant weight within communication of the issue. And it reads like your words largely mimic those of the organizations who decided to shaft the people’s voice in the matter, doncha think?

  36. Mr. Nice
    May 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Little heads up Mr. Nice (done in my best Mr. Nice voice)

    Fasheezy.

    , marijauna ain’t that hard to grow and shit.

    Brown and mids ain’t that hard to grow. If bomb really ain’t hard to grow, grow some.

    Shit is getting close to being legal and that means the bottom is dropping out of the price and shit.

    Been dropping for years. True, folks sell larf for $500 a bag these days and can’t hardly find nobody to buy a country cut elbow for 2, but check out all these historical chronic prices.

    1980 – 35-40 an eighth
    1990 – 45-50 an eighth
    2000 – 40-45 an eighth
    2010 – 35-40 an eighth

    40 in 2010 money is like 15-20 back in the day. If prices remained the same, that same sack of Blueberry should cost $100 now. Ain’t no bottom dropping out of nothing, it’s been on a slow decline, and shit.

    If So-Hum wants to attach its entire identity to a plant that is about to be worth as much as wine grapes and shit (think Napa changing its name to Wineville),

    Wineville is stupid as fuck. Be like Hopland being called Hopville.

    it can but it seems stupid and meaningless. And shit.

    Ain’t like folks saying change it to Half.com or DISH.

    At this point in time, why does So-Hum need to advertise their affinity for weed to the rest of the world?

    Ain’t our affinity for weed. That’s advertising everybody else’s affinity for our weed.

    Besides, y’all wannabes driving jacked-up rigs down flat pavement tryna steal our fucking branding. Arcata-Eureka ain’t really Humboldt like Humboldt organic outdoor.

  37. 69er
    May 31, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Sure would hate to see more of the unique names of the area fade away as so many have. At one time there was need for delivery of groceries, beer and wine to the stores in places such as Briceland, Thorn and Whitmore Valley. Do all of these places still exist and the small businesses that went with them.

  38. May 31, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Is SHIT a noun, or a Verb–or what.? It seeems to be used interchangeably–

    WHY???

  39. Mr. Nice
    May 31, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Sure would hate to see more of the unique names of the area fade away as so many have.

    Most places around here named after a person or family are from some mid-1800s white land grabbers naming shit after themselves.

    Is SHIT a noun, or a Verb–or what.?

    noun – black bag of bat shit
    verb – your dog shit on the plants
    adjective – nobody wants your shit weed
    adverb – this strain is shitty
    pronoun – already gave that shit to you
    superlative – Emerald City is the shit

  40. 69er
    May 31, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Nice to see that Mr. Nice is so nicely educated that he can spread his shit for the rest of us, bull shit!!!

  41. What Now
    June 1, 2011 at 1:49 am

    “High Finance says:
    May 30, 2011 at 8:24 am
    We could ship all our zombies and other drug culture victims to this hell hole called “Emerald City”.”

    We can always count on Highly Fried the parasitic vampire to complain about people he can’t leach off of or scam.

  42. Teacher
    June 1, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Mr. Nice, decent job with the grammar. However, using “shit” as an adverb is difficult as you proved by using it incorrectly. Try this: “Mr. Nice grows some shit bammer and is all shit proud of it.” While it may not make great sense, “shit” is modifying adjectives which means “shit” is being used as an adverb.

    And your use of the value chart for marijuana was interesting. I had no idea you big time dope farmers sold weed in eighths… I guess selling 20 pounds one eighth at a time won’t be that difficult in Humboldt because everyone is desperately trying to scrounge up eighths, especially in SoHum. Good luck with the prices for your outdoor staying high (no pun intended). The young dipshits I see out in the hills with the PVC pipe in the back of their trucks and the 18 wheelers bringing in fertilizer must be for tomato farming otherwise, it seems like they might be flooding your market and driving the prices of “eighths” way down.

  43. High Finance
    June 1, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Troll alert at 1.49am.

    What happened, they kick you out of the bars early ?

  44. Anonymous
    June 3, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    isn’t that the troll calling the troll a troll (obviously said the troll)

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