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Memorial for Sophia Parker Pedreros

June 1, 2011

  1. Clay
    June 2, 2011 at 4:11 am

    God bless her

  2. Not A Native
    June 2, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Why is this family’s personal tragedy being made such a public spectacle? The facts are yet publically incomplete. Mental illness played a part but the particular events and circumstances that resulted in this aren’t(and maybe shouldn’t be) public.

    Is the story now that this was a result of mental illness? Lots of parents around here have mental illnesses. I don’t believe their families are at high risk of a similar tragedy. That should be publically very clear, otherwise it reinforces the stigma. Something unique differentiated this family. The public story should be filled in a little before public grieving.

  3. June 2, 2011 at 9:20 am

    The community shouldn’t grieve the loss of a 2-year old under tragic circumstances? Many will disagree.

  4. Anony.Miss
    June 2, 2011 at 9:27 am

    The family’s healing will be helped by community support They have chosen how to memorialize their precious little Sophia. Their choice is to include all who would like to be part of it. We should give them the support and love they need so much. This is a heartbreaking story.

  5. anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Not a Native, you don’t know these people. You are not from around here, you have no ties to local people. You suggest it is not appropriate for friends of this family to gather for a memorial and for support because of the nature of the death. Where you come from a memorial is a public spectacle? Go back to that place, NAN. You’re making a public spectacle of your crass city values.

    NAN, who said anything about other families being at high risk or about reinforcing a stigma? You, and only you did. You are a sick old man. Go away, or at least spare us the seepage from you mediocre mind.

  6. Not A Native
    June 2, 2011 at 10:10 am

    So why isn’t every death of every young person here memorialized in such a large and publically promoted event? And there are others in this area. This isn’t simply personal ‘friends’ being individually invited to a ceremony. Its a public invitation, come one come all. Family memorials are discretely listed in obituary columns. And yes, I think the publically known cause of this tragedy is now wrongly attributed solely to mental illness

  7. Teacher
    June 2, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Quit talking NAN. This is an extremely sad situation that we here in the blogosphere don’t need to argue about so find a different topic to try and pick fights.

  8. Carla Baku
    June 2, 2011 at 10:33 am

    NAN, when my sons’ young cousin, Tyler Sikora, died suddenly while playing basketball with his brother and some friends, hundreds of people came out to a public gathering to say goodbye and show support to the family. Let me tell you, there was nothing spectacular about it. It was a moment of grace and love given as a gift, one that his parents and brother will never forget. Sometimes people are capable of rising above their petty differences of opinion and can simply BE THERE for one another, recognizing, as the poster says, how transient and fragile this life is, and what a gift. NAN, is this truly the topic about which you want to divide opinions? That says a lot.

  9. Not A Native
    June 2, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Not picking fights, just expressing the opinion that the manner of ceremony and publicity surrounding this tragedy is in very poor taste.

    I’ve been in this area long enought to observe the public facades while in private the same tongues wag. The TS today quotes Claudia’s lawyer “I’m aware of the innuendo circulating in the blogosphere, I’d like people to harken back to the presumption of innocence.” Its not me creating that innuendo.

  10. Not A Native
    June 2, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Oh, and BTW if you don’t appreciate my comments, please just ignore them. By responding defensively and aggressively, you give my opinions more credence. acknowledging that others share them but are cowed or intimidated into not giving them expression.

    These aren’t matters of fact, they’re opinions of what is proper and dignified. If my opinions are shared by others, rather than venting spleen against them, perhaps you should do some personal soul searching and ask whether they might be meritorious.

  11. Plain Jane
    June 2, 2011 at 11:07 am

    NAN, I think the difference is that this tragedy did involve the community at large. When the news broke about the missing baby, we were all worried and many joined in the search. This creates a more personal bond than just hearing about the death of a baby you don’t know. I believe that would be true even if there was no crime involved. I would hope people will pay closer attention to mentally ill family members, especially when they are responsible for the care of vulnerable children.

  12. Anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Not a Native, I support your questioning of the manner in which this little girl’s tragic death is being turned into a public event, complete with free parking at HSU. Nothing like this has been done for other little children whose parents have killed them. Why is this tragedy being handled so differently?

  13. anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 11:22 am

    NAN, you can take the big bow for showing the poorest taste. Yeah, you’re superior. Now go away.

    Thank you Carla for sharing your experience.

  14. Not A Native
    June 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    PJ, sorry I don’t buy it, only a few people actually were looking and they were in Trinity county. And here you have already have prejudged and attributed this tragedy to mental illness, exactly the point I was making. You don’t know at all the circumstances of why this occured. Did you read the lawyer’s plea for objectivity?

    In comparison, the tragedy of the homeless man who was recently found dead by the bay in Eureka was just as great and closer, but no public mourning event was held or called for. In fact, some of the grieving strangers at this event will go hom e to later declare their area off limits for subsidized housing that this young girl, had she lived, might very well have needed one day.

  15. Plain Jane
    June 2, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    It’s almost impossible to believe a sane woman drowned her baby, NAN. It seems to me to be the most charitable assumption.

  16. Curley
    June 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    This is one of those rare moments when I completely agree with Plain Jane. The mother appears to have been totally mentally incapacitated at the time. My heart goes out to the family. As a father I don’t know if I could survive something like this had it happened to my child and wife.

  17. Steak n Eggs
    June 2, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    I also think that its odd to publicly announce the memorial considering the circumstances of the death. However, we all have different ways of mourning and grieving. To each their own I suppose. Kinda weird though.

  18. Anony.Miss
    June 2, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    I completely agree with PJ and Curley. I feel so sorry for this family. It seems most appropriate to allow the family to grieve in whatever way helps them the most, and keep any comments that are contrary to yourself. I feel awful about the homeless man as well, but a child at this age is completely vulnerable and subject to the choices of the adult charge. Let’s just send our thoughts and love to this family, whatever the circumstances were.

  19. Plain Jane
    June 2, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Good to see you, Anony.Miss. I’ve missed your moderate view.

  20. Not A Native
    June 2, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Yeah anon.miss you feel just awful as you step past the homeless, averting your eyes, calling for their removal out of town so that you won’t have to feel awful any longer. Well, you are what you feel, just awful.

    Nobody here knows anything about this family but many feel they have a right to involve themselves into their family tragedy. I doubt that any poster here would even recognize them on the street. But the stigma of mental illness is alive and flourishing right here on the H. blog, per PJ and Curley.

    BTW Curley, since you’re so adept at identifying with what this father must feel, did you read what he actually said in court about his wife? I recommend it to you.

  21. Anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    “Nobody here knows anything about this family but many feel they have a right to involve themselves into their family tragedy.”

    The family has invited the public to a memorial service. If you don’t want to go, then don’t go. It’s as simple as that. Sheesh.

  22. Anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Since a homeless guy who died didn’t have a big public memorial service, therefore this child’s family shouldn’t have one for her?

    ???

  23. Plain Jane
    June 2, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Call me insensitive, NAN, but I don’t know how saying a woman had to be mentally ill to drown her baby is stigmatizing mental illness. As to presumption of innocence, do you mean by reason of insanity? Her attorney may need to ask for a change of venue.

  24. Anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    If this mother was slipped a roofie and got disoriented and couldn’t remember anything for hours, is that a form of mental illness?

    No.

    It is an alternative theory of what might have happened.

    So will everybody please stop assuming they already know what happened?

    That is what trials are for.

  25. Not A Native
    June 2, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Hank Simms has an additional dimension on this, but now I gotta go to the spectacle.

  26. Anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Agree with PJ and others who argue for the right of family in this matter. Whatever your opinion, it is not anyone’s decision but the family’s and the charitable thing to do, if you can’t support it, is not judge. Whatever the family dysfunction, a child ended up dying and the family and friends must be grief stricken.

  27. anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    NAN how do you know that “Nobody here knows anything about this family”. Get a clue. People in this county know each other. You say this because YOU don’t know anything about this family, about Humboldt County, or about humanity.

    Your inability to understand that a mother killing her own child in such a way (as she described to the police) is probably regarded in every culture to be a clear indication of mental illness, well, that says a lot about you, NAN.

    Stigma? You add to the stigma of mental illness by not acknowledging it, by denying it. Why? Illness happens. It expresses itself in many ways. YOU are ill, NAN. Where is your compassion?

  28. Anony.Miss
    June 2, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Thank you, Jane. I feel we all have a common feeling of sadness here, no matter our politics. And NAN, good for you; it sounds like you supported the family by attending the service/gathering. I think we all care about this.

  29. suzy blah blah
    June 2, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    I agree with NAN that the ceremony and publicity is in bad taste. I feel sorry for the mother.

  30. Anony.Miss
    June 2, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Wow. The people who are grieving choose what makes them feel better. I can’t even start to answer that, Ms. Blah. The people in the family with clear minds are seeing the results of her activity. I can’t imagine their pain. The mother will have to heal but for now she is in some sort of transition. I think the family deserves the choice of how to proceed, and needs support, not criticism.

  31. Mitch
    June 2, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    There are very few topics on which I don’t think a wide airing of opinions is valuable. This is one.

    Thanks, Heraldo, for providing people with information about the memorial.

    I wish you could create no-comment threads.

  32. anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Miss, I think you are missed something. You said, NAN, good for you; it sounds like you supported the family by attending the service/gathering. I think we all care about this.

    I think NAN was being sarcastic. If not, and NAN actually attend the ceremony after the sentiments he expressed on this thread, I would say he is a pathetic voyeur and even sicker than I imagined.

  33. anonymous
    June 2, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Excuse the typos. Thanks Mitch, I have to agree. I’m out of here.

  34. Anony.Miss
    June 2, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    You are right, anonymous at 7:54. I am naive to think that. I don’t want to comment any more out of respect. I feel that saying more just brings up those who would argue.

    I am just feeling sad for the family.

  35. June 2, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I wish you could create no-comment threads.

    I can and should have with this one.

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