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Garr Nielsen on KSLG

John Matthews interviewed ousted Eureka Police Chief Garr Nielsen on KSLG this morning.  Not much in the way of new information, but here it is.

  1. June 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    A bit rough to listen to with all the “Uh” and “You know…”s.

  2. High Finance
    June 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Disappointing interview. Nielsen blamed “tough cops” in the department opposed to his “progressive changes”, he blamed the change in the city council and he blamed the city manager.

    Never once did I hear him say he might have made mistakes.

  3. June 28, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    HiFi, could you be any more predictable?

  4. June 28, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Great Interview. Garr made it clear that he had opposition from the “tough cops” in the department opposed to his “progressive changes”, and he rightfully blamed the change in the city council and he blamed the city manager.

  5. Eric Kirk
    June 28, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    HF – like what mistakes? I keep hearing about these complaints. From whom? About what?

    Do you know, or do you just have faith?

  6. Joel Mielke
    June 28, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    HiFi, please post a link for that interview you listened to.

  7. High Finance
    June 28, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    So Eric, are you saying he was perfect & perfectly blameless for four traumatic years at the EPD. That he made NO mistakes at all ?

    I am not privy to the inner dealings of the EPD. But he blamed everything of the “tough cops” and took none of the blame himself. My mama always said it took two to have an argument. Why no efforts to bring the “old guard” on board instead of ramming his way of doing things down their throats ?

    Obviously he played favorites among the EPD employees and some of his behaviors reported in the T-S was at least unseemly.

    Heraldo, I could take ten topics and state your stand on every single one of them. “Pulling a Heraldo” now is the term for taking a boring predictable stance.

    But prove me wrong, do a topic from your POV that gets PJ, Mouse or the other “Me Too” crowd mad at you.

  8. Goldie
    June 28, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    I did not hear blame. He mentioned them. He said they were there and he was there and there was conflict between them.

  9. June 28, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Traumatic? Get a grip.

    Nielsen was hired to make changes. Some cops who had been living large on unnecessary overtime didn’t like it. And there you have your two opposing forces.

  10. Anonymous
    June 28, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    “Obviously he played favorites among the EPD employees and some of his behaviors reported in the T-S was at least unseemly.”

    Please elaborate – I live, work, and pay taxes in Eureka (and occasionally need police assistance). These “obvious” mistakes have never been apparent to me, and now I’m required to help fund $166,000 to pay for this petty decision by our city manager.

  11. Joel Mielke
    June 28, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    HiFi demands a saint, though most of us were happy with a competent police chief.

  12. Anonymous
    June 28, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    I always wondered if Hi Fi wasn’t paid to oppose anyone on this blog. This time he is really out to lunch.

  13. Anonymous
    June 28, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    EPOA used to ask Eureka residents for money, implying the money would go to law enforcement. But EPOA is a union andthe money went to that union. Are those some of the good old boys we hear about who wanted to keep their overtime and their old ways of doingthings? EPOA is vocal during elecction times, why so quiet now?

  14. Anonymous
    June 28, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    great now Ihave to listen to this drivel.

    “tough cops”, that certainly doesn’t include Garr.

  15. Eric Kirk
    June 28, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    So Eric, are you saying he was perfect & perfectly blameless for four traumatic years at the EPD. That he made NO mistakes at all ?

    I doubt that he made no mistakes at all, but I want to hear about the mistakes which supposed got him fired on five minutes notice. Unless he committed a crime, it’s hard for me to see any justification in that. You and others are just taking it on faith that this was about something other than politics. Maybe there are some good explanations, but as it stands it looks really bad.

  16. The Big Picture
    June 28, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    You see, progressives must make nice with dramatic changes to a violent, abusive good ol’ boy police force.

    Forcing change and charging taxpayers $166,000 (+?) is ONLY O.K. when its Reich-Baggers in charge.

    John Matthews might have to wait awhile for that call from NY, his comments: “who’s feeding you lines?”, and “obstructionists sounds too dramatic”, is poor journalism. The public needs reminders about who’s dominating local politics…how they’re doing it, and start reporting the public costs, like the costs we’ve just suffered!

    Local media carries much responsibility for Eureka’s turmoil…half the eligible voters have no clue about this city’s corruption and what it costs them, they demand no change, and they abstain from voting.

  17. Not A Native
    June 28, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Good points Big Pic. My feeling is the majority ‘little people’ in Eureka are fearful of change, thinking change could result in them losing the little they have. And their belief is reasonable, the area has been in decline for 30 years, most changes have been bad for them. At the same time, they look up to and trust people with money and status, out of both fear of retribution for crossing them and hope they must ‘know something’ and will ‘trickle down’ some benefits.

    And I’d like to ask Hi Fi since your (so tolerant)mama said it takes two to make a dispute, would she have asked: What mistakes did the US make that resulted in Bin Laden going to war against it? Yo Mama !

  18. Mr. Nice
    June 28, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    What mistakes did the US make that resulted in Bin Laden going to war against it? Yo Mama !

    Psssht yo mama so fat she was hiding Bin Laden the whole time.

  19. Anonymous
    June 28, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    “I always wondered if Hi Fi wasn’t paid to oppose anyone on this blog. This time he is really out to lunch.”

    Hi Fi? Paid? A good question. The amount of time he spends here and his constant theme of hammering progressives makes it look that way. In this particular issue his comments are so far off the mark you have to wonder if the same power behind the throne that pulls the strings that makes the current city council dance are not attached to his fingers as well.

  20. Joel Mielke
    June 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Unless some of you are being paid to haunt the blogs (let me know where to sign up), we can assume that HiFi devotes his time freely, just as we do. He has been staggeringly obtuse on the subject of Chief Nielsen’s firing though.

  21. The Big Picture
    June 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Put Tyson’s harassment settlement and police-firing costs on a flier, compare it to the city deficit, include some quotes from credible individuals who have worked closely with Tyson, (like we heard from last night), and Eureka’s poorly informed citizens will be signing-on.

    I can still remember an era when community media took pride in being part of the community, taking a public-interest watchdog roll in demanding answers and sharing public outrage at managerial incompetence and arrogance in government and business affairs, (and collusion), especially needed in exposing the corruption of local elections by the rich.

    Until then, it’s up to individuals with the guts to connect the dots and inform the public what their city officials are costing them.

  22. Another 2 cents
    June 29, 2011 at 1:19 am

    $166,000? is that Eureka.city money or County money? At a time when they’re closing the Garberville substation and firing Sheriffs? Obscene.

  23. Plain Jane
    June 29, 2011 at 6:58 am

    City money, 2 cents.

  24. Mitch
    June 29, 2011 at 8:24 am

    “The Big Picture” and the rest of us can be grateful that Humboldt has Heraldo, at least. What a shame that a local offering of true community discussion — of the sort that is handled by alternative newspapers in many other places — should require anonymity on the part of our host(s).

    There do seem to be a few local reporters/writers who recognize the importance of a “public-interest watchdog;” the question is whether anybody with the money to run a regular print operation reliably shares their interest. In an area with our population and characteristics, even more than in other areas, if you are running a newspaper or a newsweekly dependent on advertising, it’s much easier to just go with the flow.

  25. High Finance
    June 29, 2011 at 8:52 am

    I am only “staggering obtuse” on the firing of the Chief, Joel, because I am not yet aware of the details of the reason why and have not made up my mind whether it was a good thing or not.

    Silly me, waiting for facts before making up my mind.

    Like Skippy said two days ago, something big must have happened for the Chief to be fired this way. The Chief also never showed any committment to our town, his family never moved here, he had his local house up for sale, he applied for a lower paid Chief’s job back home and his department has been in an uproar from the first month he was hired.

    OTOH, things have quieted down in the last four years in the community. Fewer shootings (although most of that is because of the bad guys haven’t been attacking the cops with lethel intent during that time). I love the POP (but didn’t you all tell us that Larry Glass was responsible for that?).

    But, for better or worse, the city manager is always the Chief’s boss and Nielsen failed to recognize that. That is the end of any Police Chief’s job in any city and I cannot believe Nielsen when he said he was shocked at his firing.

  26. Joel Mielke
    June 29, 2011 at 8:57 am

    “Silly me, waiting for facts before making up my mind.”

    Is that what you call it?

  27. Al-anon
    June 29, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Why would his family move here after what grown adults in this city thought it was ok to do to him (have him followed, create the blog to smear his name, etc etc) Sounds more like the family chose not to be in an schoolyard environment like that. And if Tyson had something big he wudda fired him with cause and a reason, duh. You will never find out the reason because how would it look for Tyson to admit he is is a jealous petty man who couldn’t stand someone besides himself showing brains, and because Garr wanted to do what was best for the department, not for Tyson’s friends. Did you learn nothing from the depositions in the Hansen lawsuit and the settlement Tyson had to pay out?

  28. Eric Kirk
    June 29, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Like Skippy said two days ago, something big must have happened for the Chief to be fired this way.

    That’s a big assumption. Tyson may have simply decided it was time.

  29. June 29, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Tyson desperately wanted a cause and hoped the Grand Jury would give him one. But the GJ exonerated Nielsen of all the petty nonsense thrown by Tyson, DeeDee Wilson, Suzie Owsley, et al.

  30. Al-anon
    June 29, 2011 at 9:19 am

    John Mthews is asking Linda who in the PD still has it in for Garr. Murl is one, Suzie is another, Bill Nova the ex SWAT Commandant is another. This is no secret.

  31. Al-anon
    June 29, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Linda has also hit the nail on the head. Tyson has his own little empire at City Hall and Garr was the last thorn preventing total control. In a nutshell.

  32. Al-anon
    June 29, 2011 at 9:24 am

    She is also correct that there are only 2 people on the council who were elected by majorities and the others ran unopposed, were appointed, or didnt have majority, That should really get citizens to pay attention.

  33. High Finance
    June 29, 2011 at 9:36 am

    She was totally unprofessional. She basically burned every bridge on the council and will be 100% ineffective for the rest of her term.

    I have never seen any elected official with two years experience so dense so dense in how a council or board operates before.

  34. June 29, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Those bridges were already burned by the rest of your tools on the council.

  35. June 29, 2011 at 9:41 am

    HiFi’s idea of effectiveness is to put your head down and say “yes, Mr. Tyson” no matter how outrageous his behavior or how much he costs the city.

  36. Al-anon
    June 29, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Actually she might be ensuring her political future by being a vocal lone dissenter to the travesty that is the majority on the council the next few years, especially if they keep ignoring citizen outcry. l

  37. High Finance
    June 29, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Let me guess Heraldo, you have never served on a city council or board of supervisors or school board or anything have you.

  38. June 29, 2011 at 9:49 am

    Thank you for announcing that you have/are.

  39. High Finance
    June 29, 2011 at 9:54 am

    I have done many things over the years in many areas and fields. I have a wealth of experience to draw upon.

    Perhaps you would benefit by learning more about the world before condemning people you do not understand Heraldo.

  40. June 29, 2011 at 9:55 am

    What’s happening in Eureka is clear as day, HiFi. It doesn’t take a school board member to see it.

  41. June 29, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Personnel/Personal—the citizens 0f Eureka who will foot the bill have a right to know WHY?

  42. June 29, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Personnel/Personal—the citizens 0f Eureka who will foot the bill have a right to know WHY?RAGING GRANNY?????WHY

  43. The Big Picture
    June 29, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Maybe if HiFi finds himself on the operating table he can question Dr, Postel’s “commitment to this community” because the doctor’s family resides mostly in LA after 12 years. He is one of our best heart surgeons.

    Can you imagine our Reich-Winger’s outrage had Larry or Garr cost our city hundreds of thousands in settlements or a wrongful termination, aka, “without cause”?

    Liars and hypocrites all.

  44. Anonymous
    June 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Heraldo said: What’s happening in Eureka is clear as day, HiFi. It doesn’t take a school board member to see it.

    School board member. Say it isn’t so. This can’t be the same person who kept suggesting the City of Eureka not purchase Jefferson School?

    If HiFi is indeed a school board member than he is even more despicable than I thought.

  45. June 29, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    I doubt it could be any more clear. The “Resistance” in the Police Dept. used its connections with City Hall (read ‘Tyson’) to sabotage the Chief at every possibilty, ending with this. Expect no relief from the very council that helped them out.

    4/5ths of this council listen to the old-guard for direction and couldn’t give a FIG about what the citizens want. When people take the time to go speak before the council, they immediately get characterized as a “tiny special interest group” rather than concerned community members. Makes the effort pretty wothless, doesn’t it. So now there is no reason to speak before the council because you’ve already been maginalized. I’ve seen a lot of councils. Some have been pretty good. But even Mike Jones listened sometimes. This gang is off the charts when it comes to ignoring there constuents. It’s time to tell them so, LOUDLY, and time to move for a recall. If we don’t, this city will become ever LESS liveable. There are so many GOOD options. Why do we suffer these fools?
    Time to go, Dave!

  46. High Finance
    June 30, 2011 at 9:31 am

    11 people coming to a city council meeting, prearranged and organized, cannot claim to speak for a majority of the community.

    And why on earth does anyone think I am a school board member ? Nothing against them, but my time is far too valueable to waste on that.

    And what on earth does any of this have to do with a heart surgeon ?

  47. June 30, 2011 at 9:35 am

    It’ll be our little secret, HiFi.

  48. pattycakes
    June 30, 2011 at 9:38 am

    well aside from the fact that no one really cares what you are, and by the way you arent too valuable if you cant even spell ithat word, we know they aren’t a majority, but they are concerned enough to get involved & I’m sure you ‘ll see more of that.

  49. June 30, 2011 at 9:43 am

    In the world of High Finance a dozen “organized” people cannot speak for the “majority of Eurekans.” Unless of course they are wearing Marina Center T-shirts.

    have a oeaceful day,
    Bill

  50. High Finance
    June 30, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Is the truth always a stranger to you Heraldo ? Maybe we could have a cup of coffee at your place to talk about your problem.

    Cupcake, perhaps you shouldn’t be commenting on other people’s spelling mistakes ?

  51. pattycakes
    June 30, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Nah, couldn’t resist that one since you are saying your time is valuable but obviously not enough to learn something that simple

  52. The Big Picture
    June 30, 2011 at 11:52 am

    “HiFi” is obviously not among this area’s high rollers who contribute to this community or he would know that many have residences outside Eureka where their family’s come and go. Apparently, he’s only a wannabe, and has never been on one of our packed 7AM flights to SF.

    Just because Garr’s family has a home in Oregon, is another meaningless distraction from HiFi.

    What a dull and sad hypocrite.

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