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Tyson detractors, supporters speak at Eureka City Council meeting

DeeDee Wilson

UPDATE: Here’s the meeting video.

Petitions calling for the removal of Eureka City Manager Dave Tyson were presented to the city council Tuesday night during the public comment portion of the meeting. Eureka resident Sylvia Scott said signatures were easily gathered in two hours on Saturday.

The petition started after Tyson fired Eureka Police Chief Garr Nielsen without cause on June 24th.

But supporters of Tyson were also on-hand Tuesday, including Devora “DeeDee” Wilson, the former EPD dispatcher who was sued for her role in harassing a co-worker in an effort to oust Nielsen. Wilson paid $10,000 to settle the lawsuit.

Wilson quit EPD after the Humboldt County Grand Jury found complaints against Nielsen were unfounded. Wilson said she flew halfway across the country to attend Tuesday’s meeting. She is the sister of Eureka City Clerk Pam Powell.

Other supporters of the firing include members of the city’s Problem Oriented Policing unit.

Eureka resident Julie Timmons said she “think[s] the world of Tyson” but called for him to retire. She said it is obvious that city councilmembers look to Tyson for direction because of his institutional knowledge. “There is no way the balance will be corrected,” she said, adding that councilmembers will never learn their jobs while Tyson is there.

  1. Down the Road
    July 5, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Your picture shows the front of Dee Dee Wilson. We spectators
    unfortunately were forced to look at the rear. EPD should have
    kept that one. She would definitely make anyone sober up,
    give up drugs and leave the county.

  2. July 5, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    DeeDee spoke of the “dedicated professionals” at EPD. She was clearly not one of them.

  3. Ed
    July 5, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    The council should feel creeped out for being thanked by Dee Dee for the Chief’s firing. I wonder if they’re capable of that.

  4. July 5, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    So, let me get this straight, among the people who are supporting Tyson is a woman who was sued for lying about Nielson in the past?

    If I were Tyson, I would have asked her to stay on the other side of the country….

  5. Suzy Q
    July 5, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    who were the members of POP?

  6. Anonymous
    July 5, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    I feel sorry for you Down the Road having to look at her from the back. It is hard to imagine the back could be worse than the front.

  7. insider
    July 5, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    This sure makes Glass’s charge of Tyson surporting and condoning the “Above The Law Blog” and “Black Friday” look dead on the mark.

  8. July 5, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    who were the members of POP?

    Patrick Bishop and Sgt. Watson.

  9. anonymous
    July 5, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    The POP unit supported the firing? Who was there to speak for them and why do they support it?

  10. insider
    July 5, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Patrick Bishop is President of EPOA and Sgt Watson is V.P. of EPOA
    It obvious they see which way the wind is blowing.

  11. robash141
    July 5, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    abovethelaw.com hearts the Eureka City Council.

  12. Geturfacts Straight
    July 5, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Watson and Bishop did not say they supported the firing, but rather stated their support of the council and Interim Chief Harpham, and reaffirmed EPD’s commitment to superior service. Their comments weren’t about former Chief Neilsen at all, but rather addressed these other things.

    The way some posters twist the truth on this blog is unethical. Watch the council meeting video.

  13. July 5, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    The Council should be ashamed of that endorsement.

  14. July 5, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Bishop and Watson spoke in support of the city manager, yes, but not against Nielsen. It’s an fine line.

  15. anonymous
    July 5, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    To me, support of this council translates to support of the firing. How long have Watson and Bishop been with EPD? Are they considered part of the old guard?

  16. Down the Road
    July 5, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Hmmmmm. How many officers do you think would have a job
    come next week if they had gone before council and said:
    “Hey you dummy dumbbells you just dumped the best chief we
    have ever had.”

    Back to Dee Dee: I find it incredible that this woman would act
    like a victim after being the author of “Above the Law”. This vicious blog. Imagine the humiliation that Tawny Hansen went through.
    Dee Dee go back to wherever you are now inhabiting and take
    your friend hiding in the back with you. You know the do nothing
    lady Suzy.
    .

  17. Geturfacts Straight
    July 5, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Regardless of how one feels about Nielsen’s termination, that ship has sailed. It’s time to look to the future, mend broken fences, and move on. While people are certain to have their own interpretations, I didn’t take the POP team members’ comments to be anti-Nielsen, but rather to be speaking unofficially for the EPOA on support of their elected officials/Harpham and to reassure the public EPD intends to continue providing a high level of service. There’s a difference. Now DeeDee was definitely anti-Nielsen…

  18. anonymous
    July 5, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    DTR – it seems their appearance before the council wasn’t necessary but then maybe kissing ass is.

  19. Insider2
    July 5, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    insider says:
    July 5, 2011 at 10:54 pm
    Patrick Bishop is President of EPOA and Sgt Watson is V.P. of EPOA
    It obvious they see which way the wind is blowing.

    Adam, Kay, Pat??? Is that you?

  20. robash141
    July 5, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    I saw DeeDee at the meeting she came in with Suzy Owsley and they were sitting together laughing. Looks like they might have had a couple of celebratory pops beforehand .

  21. Anonymous
    July 5, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Being mean about someone’s appearance lowers your credibility, Down the Road.

    And Geturfactsright, the person who spoke was not Watson or Bishop, it was another person named Noga I thought.

  22. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 12:27 am

    EPOA is VERY political and has made endorsement agains Gallegos in at least two elections including in support of the attempted recall. I’m sure that many of its members are very happy to have a watchdog like Garr who was going to keep them honest, gone and to have someone like Murl (or worse, David Parris) who’d happily turn a blind eye to their mistakes in charge instead.

  23. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 4:59 am

    That ship has sailed. You can try to spin the motives and true feelings of Bishop and Watson to make it seem they are Nielsen supporters but…

    Get over it, Garr is gone, as he should be, and the police department, the city will be better for it.

    Tyson and the council (minus Atkins) did the thing

  24. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 5:43 am

    how many people signed the petition???

  25. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 6:06 am

    Stay classy, West Side.

  26. robash141
    July 6, 2011 at 6:34 am

    Doesn’t Suzy have some big pending litigation with the city? It seems as if it would jeopardize her case if she’s publicly hanging out with some miscreant who already cost the city a bunch of money in court through her misdeeds .

  27. July 6, 2011 at 6:39 am

    the person who spoke was not Watson or Bishop, it was another person named Noga I thought.

    You mean Nova. He also spoke in support of the council.

  28. anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 7:12 am

    Does Mr. Bishop live in Eureka?

  29. Decline To State
    July 6, 2011 at 7:16 am

    I agree with Geturfacts Straight and Anonymous 4:59 that the Neilsen ship has sailed. There is no way in hell Garr’s coming back here to this mess. I disagree though with the notion that this is a time to “mend fences.” We must hold the City Council responsible for this disgrace and remove those who supported the firing from office. Either by recall or the ballot box at the next elections. They do not have the best interests of Eureka at heart and need to be replaced with those that do.

  30. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 7:23 am

    Wait, so someone who cost the tax payers $200,000 is congratulating the council and manager for wasting another $160,000 of my tax money. Wow, what an endorsement (I mean embarrassment). This woman apparently has no shame.

  31. Mike Tyson
    July 6, 2011 at 7:40 am

    No- Dee Dee cost the City over a half Million. Don’t forget she sold her testimony to the City as well.

  32. July 6, 2011 at 8:02 am

    It’s amazing DeeDee found someone to hire her after her abhorrent behavior at EPD.

  33. Goldie
    July 6, 2011 at 8:39 am

    The total cost in time and dollars is overwhelming. $275,000.00 spent on Tyson’s Global Investigation for the Above the Law blog, $200,000 paid out in the settlement, plus attorney costs, $160,000, and I am sure it will be more, in costs for firing Garr. That is $630,000. What would we have if these funds were invested in programs that supported concerns of the citizens of the city? This years budget with funds provided by Measure O shows what $600,000 can do and how badly the city needed those funds: “The proposed budget also allocates $215,000 for employee retention measures, including pay raises; $200,000 for a new roof on the main fire station and a paint job for the Adorni Center; and more than $150,000 for a variety of “Clean Up Eureka” measures.”
    This all could have been handled another way.

  34. anon
    July 6, 2011 at 8:57 am

    It says a lot about the state of DD’s mental health that after all this time she was waiting to come back and gloat and that, in her mind, she was a victim, instead of the victimizer. Bet the tiara comes out again soon.

  35. High Finance
    July 6, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Amazing. 15 people spoke up publicly including current & former members of the EPD in support of the city manager and the council. Any you guys latch on just the one person who has a bad rep ?

    Then you discount the fact the pres & VP of the police officers union were among the officers who spoke up in support of the council’s actions by claiming they knew they would be fired if they didn’t ? Anyone who makes that claim is clueless as to how the union works & what it takes to fire a city employee.

    The Times Standard reported an underwhelming 200 signatures on the petition.

  36. Goldie
    July 6, 2011 at 9:12 am

    What about the funds spent on this mess HiFi?

  37. July 6, 2011 at 9:43 am

    What about the funds spent on this mess HiFi?

    A legitimate concern, although I suspect most that keep bringing this up are those also upset the city council backed out of paying millions for Jefferson School?

  38. anon
    July 6, 2011 at 10:01 am

    200 signatures in a coupla days on a holiday weekend? I wouldn’t discount that. But even if nothing comes of it, at least there are some who see value in holding Tyson accountable from here on out.

  39. Groan
    July 6, 2011 at 10:04 am

    She flew half-way across the county? How long would it take to fly half-way across Humboldt County?

  40. High Finance
    July 6, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Distressful Goldie, makes me disgusted with the whole bunch. But it all started the month that Garr Nielsen was hired.

    And Fred makes a good point. A lot of people here claim to be upset that there has been several hundred thousand dollars wasted on the Peyton Place at Police headquarters but at the same time they are upset the council didn’t waste MILLIONS on the Jefferson site.

  41. anon
    July 6, 2011 at 10:24 am

    DD even coming here for this is indicative of the culture that was allowed to flourish under Tyson and Douglas. Nielsen changed it for the better, whether you want to believe the evidence or not. Whether or not it rears its ugly head again remains to be seen.

  42. anon
    July 6, 2011 at 10:26 am

    HiFi if you don’t think things badly needed to be changed in a PD that had a shameful number of officer-involved shootings for a city this size, abd a shameful amount of overtime money concentrated in the hands of a few, among other problems, then you are not half as bright as you portray yourself to be.

  43. robash141
    July 6, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Yo High Slime, they know who signs their paychecks only a handful of dept. Employees spoke. In favor of the council with such a small number how can you be sure this is just a small noisy minority that is just interested primarily in smooching the Tyson browneye

  44. anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Again, my question. Does Bishop live in Eureka? Maybe he has an unlisted phone # and I think I would if I were a member of the police force, but there is a Patrick Bishop listed in the phone book who does not live in Eureka. If that is the same person, to speak as a private citizen (of Eureka implied) is fraudulent.

  45. Be Angry
    July 6, 2011 at 11:48 am

    It’s hilarious that the same idiot proclaiming a group of 25 canvassers against Tyson to be a “small, vocal minority”, is now bragging about the 15 pro-Tyson comments last night! If you’re a cop under the new chief, OF COURSE you’re going to fall in line.

    Since Dee Dee came here to remind us of her stink, it’s perfectly legal to write an editorial about her shenanigans to her hometown paper.

    Can someone please provide the name of that city?

  46. Percy
    July 6, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Fred & Hifi, Jefferson School purchase ≠ money spent on Tyson screwups. Apples and oranges. Nice reasoning though, Roger Ailes would be proud.

  47. July 6, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    HiFi, FYI, the more than 200 signatures were easily gathered in a 2 hour period on SATURDAY of a 3 day holiday weekend. We had many people who were also AFRAID to sign it, even though they were supportive. And I do mean literally AFRAID, mostly of retaliation.

    The most people spoke Friday at the suddenly called closed session. There is a time for public comment but only the results of the meeting are reported out. There the number of people speaking AGAINST the firing was overwhelming. When 100 people show up and more than 30 speak on a Friday afternoon at a VERY SHORT NOTICED meeting before a holiday weekend, that’s impressive. Only a few of them felt there was any use repeating themselves on Tuesday. Once you realize you’re talking to a stome wall, you realize how futile it is. This council and manager don’t give a flying F*ck about what the citizens think or what they need. They have their own agenda, bought and paid for.

    It’s time to go, Dave.

  48. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    I wonder if Larry’s Agricultural Co-Op believes the money they spent on the Tawnie Hanson legal bills was well-spent. Then again, they laid down with dogs; the fleas are part of the package.

  49. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Yes HiFi the whole thing started in the first month Neilsen was hired. It all started because he actually made some lazy employees do their jobs. These few individuals kept the whole police force from fully functioning as it should.

  50. July 6, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    DD is a real piece of work and her endorsement sure makes the case for just how f*ck up this council’s actions were. One can only hope that the swing voters in Eureka who handed this last election to the far right will have long enough memories to carry over to the next two elections, and vote in a progressive (or at least a sane) majority. And please, no more former cops like Lance and Frank on the council. It’s a real shame for the citizens of Eureka that they lost Chief Nielsen, as he seemed like a real straight shooter who did a lot to clean up a department in need of reform.

    Meanwhile, Rex Bohn kicks off his campaign for Supervisor on Thursday and if this (very nice, likely well intentioned, but clearly misguided) man wins and puts Virginia Bass in the majority on the Board of Sups, all of this mess in Eureka will seem like small potatoes compared to the damage these folks can do on the Board of Sup, and much of it to extend over the next 20 years with the General Plan. I would equate the GP to the affect of a President’s Supreme Court appointments, as an example of a lasting legacy.

    A new majority in Eureka is worth working for, but attention should also be paid to who ever is going to run against Rex in the First Sup. District that would NOT be part of a Virginia Bass majority.

  51. Down the Road
    July 6, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    To answer one question: How did Dee Dee get here so fast?
    She has a jet propelled broom. I fully intend on making fun
    of Dee Dee that is my way of combating the Bad, the Ugly and
    the Lawless. Four of the council members, Dave Tyson, and
    the that little group of the old guard in the police dept. all fit
    into that category.

    Hi Fi: This isn’t about Jefferson. This is about the way we were
    treated when we asked for help concerning the crime in the
    West Side. The last thing you want to indicate to me is that I
    am not good enough for equal protection under the law.
    We were on the most part ignored or we were told to handle
    ourselves. I fully intend to show this council and Tyson how
    hard ball is played.

  52. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    “DD is a real piece of work and her endorsement sure makes the case for just how f*ck up this council’s actions were.”

    What nobody points out here, is that Dee Dee Wilson WON her harrassment case against Garr.

    “One can only hope that the swing voters in Eureka who handed this last election to the far right”

    Sorry there, Trinidad resident Richard Salzman, but this last election swung the Council from a far left lean back towards the center, not the far right.

    “And please, no more former cops like Lance and Frank on the council.”

    Yes, please vote in sane rational people, even former cops like Lance and Frank. You’re going to have a tough time sliming two upstanding guys like those, Richard, but I’m sure you’ll give it your best shot.

  53. Quick Question
    July 6, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Far left council? Really? Would that be the council with Mike Jones, Virginia Bass and Jeff Leonard in the majority?

  54. Hairy Asse
    July 6, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    The 2010 Proggie Revisionist Playbook

    Close your eyes now.

    Click your heals together three times and repeat after me:
    “Humboldt County is progressive”
    “Humboldt County is progressive”
    “Humboldt County is progressive”

    Ever wonder what might have been on November 2, 2010 if the local Proggie machine got their way?

    Let’s review the County first:

    Bonnie Neely, as 24-year incumbent is an easy win with every Democrat this side of Obama endorsing her. Financed by Bill Pierson, the Blue Lake Casino and the SoHum growers against a candidate who’s nice, but dumb. Plus Bonnie stays on the California Coastal Commission to kill more jobs than cancer.

    Patrick Cleary also has all the same Democratic endorsements. Cleary is financed by Bill Pierson and the Blue Lake casino. Plus Cleary is up against a no-name with a recent DUI.

    That’s two easy wins.

    With Mark Lovelace already on the far-left…

    Clif Clendenen would vote far-left (or else).

    Jimmy Smith can either be a lone wolf or tow the company line.

    With Kirk Girard being Bonnie’s butt-boy, there goes any development in Humboldt County for the next four years.

    Humboldt County is status quo for another few years.

    On to the City of Eureka:

    We all know that Larry Glass is such an easy win being a much-loved incumbent against that no-name stupid TV tag-line Brady-Bunch that he doesn’t even have to campaign.

    Ron Kuhnel. ‘Nuff said. Even with his health issues, he doesn’t have to campaign against another no-name new-man.

    Neal Latt against the former cop, old bald dude. Proggie, please. Not only is Neal a Democrat, the fact that he looks like Jesus is a big advantage in this town.

    Peter LaVallee is the former mayor and everybody loves Peter. So he’s another easy winner.

    We’ve got four city council members (Linda Atkins already in office) voting as a block and the mayor supporting any move Larry Glass makes.

    Larry Glass and Garr Nielsen would feed all confidential city information to Heraldo to “massage the message” on his anonymous blog.

    Dave Tyson would have to retire rather than put up with another four years of Larry Glass being a bully. Or these past week’s meetings would have been over the firing of David Tyson for “without cause”. But that would have happened the first council meeting of December 2010.

    Larry Glass would appoint EPD Chief Garr Nielsen as the acting city manager.

    This way we can stall and take our sweet time looking for another city manager (right) while we open the books to…

    David Ogden running the finance advisory committee and telling the city council what to do, like…

    Cancel funding for that damn zoo.

    Increase funding for the EPD.

    EFD – what’s that stand for?

    Humboldt County goes nowhere fast.

    Eureka goes nowhere slow.

    Bill Pierson keeps his monopoly for another four years, but hell, that’s what he paid us for. Eight million a year without working, while wearing loud Hawaiian shirts and pissing on his future ex-wife. Damn, it’s good to be a gangsta.

    Welcome to Humboldt County where the political elite, AKA:
    Bolshevik bitches
    Chardonnay socialists
    Limousine liberals
    Don’t give a damn democrats
    Green ($) greenies

    Like I give a shit as long as I got mine (trust fund or gubment pension).

    Who cares if you and your family ever get yours?

    Drink more kool-aid, fellow Proggies.

    Keep posting anonymously on this blog, thinking you are influencing public opinion.

    March lock-step with the supposed Humboldt County Democratic politicos without ever questioning them — or else.

    Thank god for smart voters as that’s what almost happened eight months ago.

    You can wake up now, Proggies.

    It was all a bad dream.

    It time to go, Tom Peters
    It time to go, Richard Salzman
    It time to go, Larry Glass
    It time to go, Sue Bradneburg
    It time to go, Ann White
    It time to go, Linda Atkins
    etc, etc,etc,

  55. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    I have heard a lot of police live in Fortuna. Don’t have any idea where Bishop lives. Unfortunately they don’t live here. Things would probably never have gotten this bad if they lived in town here. I knew someone in law enforcement that lived in the historic neighborhoods westside. They were given all kinds of grief. Their car was keyed several times and and other things much worse than that by low life losers in the neighborhood. They moved.

  56. Living In Eureka
    July 6, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    The only place anyone would harass DD is in her dreams! On the the other hand, she was the author of that horrible blog “Above The Law”. I don’t think we will ever have a full accounting of the money she cost this city! Tyson had to know that this just makes him look like a complete fool!

    As for that Council, I would be buying her a one-way ticket home, to shut her up! I hope someone has a tape of this so it can be used in the next election!

  57. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Eureka has so many criminals, homeless and other assorted riffraff that the cops don’t want to live here. That is the problem in this place that so few of the people that are in a decision making capacity actually live in Eureka. Except East Eureka.

  58. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    Now that Glass and Nielsen are gone, Atkins and Gallegos should be push-overs. Next!

  59. July 6, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    There has been a remarkable amount of gender- and looks-based abuse in the comments since DD Wilson spoke. It’s revealing.

  60. July 6, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    I agree with Mitch. What’s the excuse for droolingly moronic comments like that of Anonymous 4:25? Let’s hear it. I’m all ears.

  61. SATAN
    July 6, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    “Now that Glass and Nielsen are gone….” Time to loot an pillage! Well, now Eureka gets what it voted for.

  62. July 6, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    I should take this opportunity remind you gentlefolk that DeeDee Wilson is the primary author and instigator of the scurrilous abovethelaw.com . blog She, of all people around here may very well have forfeited any right to be upset by the nasty comments of a personal nature by anonymous blog trolls.
    Perhaps she’s just reaping what she has sewn.

  63. Matt
    July 6, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    I guarantee, I’m never voting for another measure O type of tax increase again as long as these clowns keep wasting the city’s money.

  64. Ed
    July 6, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    True Robash, but also true that name calling based on appearance leaves a bad taste in the thoughtful mind regardless of political attitude.

  65. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Heraldo, it is only right and proper for you to post a link to the City Council meeting here. (For our convenience, of course!)

  66. July 6, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    I’ll post the link when it becomes available.

  67. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Thank you. Thank you very much!

  68. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Thank You robash 141- I made some funny but true comments about DeeDee that were taken off. She is reaping what she sowed.

  69. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    I had a button come loose once; but I reaped what was sewn.
    It’s enough to make you notify the IRS of a retail business that is being used to launder illicit revenue, I tell you.

  70. July 6, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    I don’t really give a shit if the DeeDee Wilson’s of the world think I’m “Thoughtful” Garr nielsen was certainly a thoughtful fellow and look how they did him.. She richly deserves whatever scorn is coming her way

  71. July 6, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Considering that DeeDee was at the City Council meeting to do what amounted to a victory lap.

  72. July 6, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Perhaps the vulgar, pea-brained comments of Anonymous 7:35 are in fact what DeeDee Wilson “richly deserves,” but why should the rest of us suffer?

  73. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Reap the wheat from the field after you Sow the seed in the soil.

  74. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    I assume that others have been “moderated” because my comments were hardly vulgar. JOEL FUNNY GUY

  75. July 6, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Well, no ones forcing you to read the comments section.

  76. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Why does anyone care where Pat Bishop lives? People who work for the police dept don’t get to have a voice? And Garr hired him, I think, so what’s your point?

  77. anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Anon@8:50
    I care because he spoke in support of the council and Tyson as a “citizen”. If he does live in Fortuna he’s not speaking as a resident of Eureka, as he would like people to believe. If people believe he lives in Eureka, his support will carry some weight.
    When I canvass in Eureka most people ask two questions off the bat. 1) Do you live in Eureka? 2) Are you being paid. It means a lot for some people to know the person trying to change something is “one of us”. You get a much better response if you live here.
    A disingenuous omission, I’d say.

  78. July 6, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    It does seem disingenuous for Bishop to claim to be speaking as a private citizen rather than a member of the EPD if he does not live in Eureka.

  79. Reality Check
    July 6, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Let it be known that Hairy Asse is Barb Leonard-the same comments and accusations have come out on this blog in the name of Barb Leonard! Pathetic, Barb. Pathetic. Your son lost and so you turn on everyone that has worked for this community-I hope that you disgust yourself. You turned your accusations on me at one point-with the same god damn dialogue that you are using tonight. Shame on you, Barb Leonard. Shame on you. Look into using facts as opposed to your own sense of reality!

  80. July 6, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Here’s the meeting video. The link should take you to the start of public comment.

  81. July 6, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Hairy Asse: I am surprised your comment has stayed on this blog this long. Many of your comments are dead on. Your presentation needs work. It is just too bad that there is such a political divide between political factions here in Humboldt. Democrats should rule every election, but we have a chasm about what a “true” Dem is. “Progressive” should be defined as “Green Democrat.” I am fine with that and would say I lean that way. We need new definitions of political factions in Humboldt. Heraldo: Please work on that. Maybe set up a criteria for a threshold to catagorize parties or affiliations.

  82. Reality Check
    July 6, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Learn how to spell categorize and then we’ll talk Richard Marks.

  83. July 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Work on it yourself, Marks. Aligning yourself with Dems who are so embraced by Republicans seems to be working for you.

  84. Reality Check
    July 6, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Which Democrats does Matthew Owen work for?

  85. July 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    The ones the Republicans call “our candidates.”

  86. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    aka, the fake ones.

  87. Reality Check
    July 6, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Touche

  88. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I find it disturbing the venom that is spewed on this blog towards Dee Dee Wilson. Dee Dee worked for years and years and years as a dispatcher for the citizen’s of Eureka. She made mistakes when she felt her career was threatened but she was a good employee for a long, long time. The turnover rate for dispatchers is very high because being a dispatcher is not an easy job and the pay is not very good. While most of us sleep dispatchers are sitting at their consoles answering calls, responding to officers, taking care of the problems of the City.

    Dee Dee put in a lot of years of good service to the City and it’s citizens but most of you are too locked up in your politics to appreciate that she was a good employee for a long time.

  89. July 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    The sexist comments against DeeDee are deplorable and several have been deleted.

    But if people have a hard time appreciating her work for the city she brought it on herself.

  90. Pitchfork
    July 6, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Richard Marks says: “We need new definitions of political factions in Humboldt” No dude, you need new friends.

  91. Anonymous
    July 6, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    The venom being spewed is probably to direct attention away from the fact that not one member of law enforcement anywhere in Humboldt County has spoken up against the firing of Nielsen. Why is that? Can everyone be terrified for their jobs?

  92. July 7, 2011 at 6:48 am

    That’s because it would be highly politically incorrect for any member of ” law enforcement” to buck the good ol’ Boy Humboldt Cop nexus. Even if they liked Nielsen and thought he was doing a good job they are going to keep that secret if they wish to keep thier job.. And btw DeeDee was doing a crappy job as dispatcher. That’s why Garr demoted her. she was ,no doubt, one of the dispatchers who argued with citizens when they called the police.

  93. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Link to meeting not working now. For me. Please fix, Heraldo. Thx!

  94. High Finance
    July 7, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Bullcrap Robash. 15 cops spoke up at the city council meeting a couple of years ago excoriating their then Chief Garr Nielsen. They openly defied their chief at a public televised meeting.

    Not one of them lost their job because of it. Not one of them were “terrified”.

    If the chief had wide support in the current roster of the EPD they would be speaking up loud & clear. They don’t so they aren’t.

  95. July 7, 2011 at 8:36 am

    I suspect Hairy Asse above doesn’t have a clue what those radical Proggy’s really want for our city. How about an industrial park instead of another big box maul? How about Short Sea Shipping to reduce costs for manufacturers and for goods coming back in? How about pursuing real changes on Broadway to reduce traffic congestion? Pretty radical, eh? Nothing about any of these goals from the current Clown Council. They’re too busy spending our Measure O money on anything and everything they can think of.

    So Hairy, I’d be proud if you would include me in that list of ‘radicals’ of yours. There’s more imagination and committment there than you’ll ever have in your lifetime.

  96. Goldie
    July 7, 2011 at 9:03 am

    This is what happened. A new chief of police was brought in to shape up the police department. As could be expected he met with resistance. The city manager instead of arranging for mediation and solution escalated the situation. A town with much to do and care for became completely distracted. Time was wasted. Precious funds were wasted. A story worthy of a cheap novel came into being and started writing itself. In the meanwhile unemployment grows, opportunities are lost, and fog continues to roll in.

  97. robash141
    July 7, 2011 at 9:23 am

    Wrong as Usual Hi Slime. Garr wasn’t part of the good ol’ boy Humboldt cop nexus. That’s was the biggest probem those police who spoke against him at the previous. Meeting felt free to do so because of their ol’ boy connections. They were part of the club Garr wasn’t . Nice attemt at revisionist history though

  98. July 7, 2011 at 10:24 am

    “….one of the dispatchers who argued with citizens when they called the police.”

    Well, I wonder who’s doing it now? I’ve had to call the police twice (Work related) And I was dumfounded how snotty and rude the dispatcher was. One time was a bunch of guys ran out of the store stealing cases of beer, and had a car waiting on a dark street; the dispatcher was completely patronizing and rude while condescendingly telling me there is big difference between a late-model sedan that is: bronze, copper-colored, and one that is lite-tan or gold colored. I was shocked at her attitude. She actually made fun of the fact that at a couple of hundred yards away, at night, with the lights off, I couldn’t get the license.
    I considered filing a formal complaint and decided not to. I suppose that kind of robbery is funny to them. But it was my first experience with that sort of thing. She really helped me to understand that the police aren’t much help. I should have said there was someone smoking a joint, then they would have rolled out the swat team.

  99. Mitch
    July 7, 2011 at 10:30 am

    I considered filing a formal complaint and decided not to.

    On behalf of my fellow arrogant, uninterested, incompetent people everywhere, let me take this opportunity to thank you, moviedad.

    As long as people prefer blog bitching to formal complaints, we thrive!

  100. robash141
    July 7, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Apathetic rude dispatchers were the rule ot the exception in the old days. Didn’t seem to matter about which crime was being reported. If you called EPD dispatch about aproblem unless you were known to them personally they would make sure to let you know that it was you problem not theirs.They seemed to act much more like call scr subjectively eeners who would determine which citizens were worthy of police services and which ones were not

  101. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Before Neilsen this type of thing happened. Now the dispatchers are polite and we get prompt police response. Lets hope it doesn’t go back to old days.

  102. anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 11:30 am

    I remember an article in one of the local papers about the grads of CR wanting to join the EPD when Nielsen was chief but I’ve searched and searched and can’t find it. Does anyone else remember the article and where/when it was published?

  103. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    The thing that was really awful is how the police seemed to be oblivious to the obvious drug dealing right in front of them. There was a notorious drug house just one block from the police station. The police would just drive on by. Sometimes there were a dozen low lives swaggering around the place. And prostitution. Heroin, guns, meth etc. And at one point the Neighbors lives were threatened for calling the police. This was allowed to exist for well over 2 years, despite neighbors pleas for help. Finally a neighbor had the courage to sue and that brought that house of horrors to an end. Houses such as this existed all over our neighborhoods. No one can deny that there was a dramatic changed when the west side got Larry Glass as a councilperson. At the same time Garr Neilsen was made Chief of Police. For the first time our historic neighborhoods were treated with respect. I don’t blame the officers for any of this because they only follow orders. Where things were wrong is at the top. With a weak Chief and a few lazy employees that don’t do their job the whole police force cannot function as it should.

  104. anon
    July 7, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Hi Fi, You know why the 15 cops who spoke didn’t lose their jobs? Because #1, the former chief doesn’t carry a grudge, didn’t retaliate and had too much integrity not to just start fresh. And he told them that when fully half of them later went into his office to apologize and get on board. And #2 he other half either left (DD), hung around to file more complaints (Suzy) or sat quietly and planned revenge. This is the result. It’s not hard to figure out that those in control of the department now are the kind to carry grudges and that’s why you aren’t hearing outrage from the cops. Believe me there are plenty that are.

  105. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    At the meeting the other night a woman named Canzoneri spoke in favor of Tyson and the councils decision to ditch the Chief. I am pretty sure that her husband is the one that forced all the low income housing on the west side. Pretty sure he worked in Redevelopment. This woman does not live in Eureka. She lives in Arcata or Kneeland. And doesn’t Tyson live in Cutten?

  106. Memory Lane
    July 7, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Ah yes, now I remember. Joel Canzoneri. Mr. Redevelopment himself. Remember folks, low income-doesn’t mean housing for the working people. It means putting an overabundance of drug rehabs, mentally ill and emergency shelters for the homeless in our historic neighborhoods. Not in his neighborhood of course. Or in this case I should say not in his city, which is not Eureka. Another employee at 531 K street that ruined the city of Eureka.

  107. July 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Jeez Mitch, don’t be so hard on yourself.

  108. Down the Road
    July 7, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    i like the part where Garr Nielsen’s contract reads:

    WHEREAS, subject to the Charter and Municipal Code, it is the
    desire of the City Council to (1) approve the appointment and
    retrain the services of EMPLOYEE and to provide inducement for him to remain in such employment, (2) to make possible full work
    productivity by assuring EMPLOYEE’S morale and peace of mind
    with respect to future security.

    Now, I am sure Dee Dee and her band of miscreants did nothing
    to hurt his morale. I am including David Tyson as a mountain troll
    miscreant in that statement. I think the worst thing I witnessed is
    when at a cook-off between Suzy Owlsly and Garr Nielsen was
    Suzy putting whipped cream all over Garr’s head. She literally
    rubbed it all over his face. He was a new employee and he stood
    there and took that humiliation. That wasn’t the only humiliation
    he took. David Tyson did his best to demoralize him. The
    old guard when over Garr’s head to D. Tyson and Tyson
    capitalized on it. Tyson won the pissing contest, but he is not
    going to win the war.

  109. High Finance
    July 7, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Robash141, where does all your extensive experience with the police department comes from ? Are you a cop or have you been arrested multiple times ?

    And now some of you are attacking Tyson supporters because of who their husband is ? Shades of Joseph McCarthy !!!

  110. Memory Lane
    July 7, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Why the hell is someone from out of town kissing The City Managers ass and thanking the council for sacking the best employee this city ever had. Hi FU or whatever you call yourself.

  111. July 7, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Gee, HiFi, I suppose you’ve never heard of blatant self-interest, have you?

    BTW, I sure hope you’re not who I’ve been told you are or we are going to have to have a serious business-type meeting.

  112. July 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Actually High Slime my most serious brush with the law has been a speeding ticket I’m just a regular working person who pays taxes and makes an effort to be a good citizen of Eureka I have a reasonable expectation that the police will show up or at least seem vaguely interested if I have witnessed or been the victim of a crime. Prior to Chief Garr that was often not the case.with the EPD. A lot of times before they were more irked at the citizens who were calling than they were at the crooks..
    What’s your experience with the Eureka Police High Slime? Did you get your lips welded to Murl’s bunghole.

  113. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    ” Tyson won the pissing contest, but he is not
    going to win the war”

    Sorry, Sweety, but game’s already over. You lost. Why don’t you go help Larry with his harvest now?

    robash, what a farking piece of work you are, lmSao! you crack me up.

    Hank Sims said this was gonna be big. Well, it wasn’t. Eureka has moved on. Why don’t you get going on a recall effort? Bring your hero Larry back into the picture?

    There is an election a year from November; by the time that rolls around, this will be a distant blip on everyone’s radar, and Sylvia, Lorene and Sue will have found some other supposed outrage to blather on about, further marginalizing the candidates they support. If Linda had any sense (and she doesn’t), she’d distance herself from the cast of Heraldoville.

  114. tra
    July 7, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Arrogance + wishful thinking = 6:25

  115. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    So they had to bring those from out of town to show there OVERWHELMING SUPPORT for firing Neilsen? This place is such a corrupt little backwater filled with cowards and crooks.

  116. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    why would she fly halfway across the country if she didn’t have something she felt strongly about?

  117. funnygirl
    July 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    The dogs bark and the caravan moves on.

  118. July 7, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    “Hank Sims said this was gonna be big. Well, it wasn’t. Eureka has moved on.”

    Keep telling yourself that, Anonymous. But keep posting comments at the Humboldt Herald. You’ll want to to hedge this bet.

  119. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    No, Eureka has moved backward. But I don’t think it is over yet.

  120. Down the Road
    July 7, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    To 6:25: i can imagine that you are Matt Owen or the likes
    thereof and I can visualize you tied to either Arkley’s or Tyson’s
    leg. That or as they walk you scurry in between their legs.
    You will just have to grow up. You can’t be a hatchet man when
    your just a teeny weenie coastal hillbilly.

  121. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Hey Joel,

    How ’bout a toon showing those coming out in support of Tyson’s firing of Garr and those on the council supporting the move?

    You know, loonys such as the retired police officer/chp, who was spot on in his assessment of GN.

    Hank is maginalized, Joel, because he’s are trying to shape the news, not report it with the aforementioned, “its gonna be big”.

    Take a look at the threads on here – really this is the only blog trying to keep fanning the flames, and there are relatively few comments.

    Posters here have belittled the KINS opinion poll, but really, how different is that from a petition where only residences where supporters were targeted? Both are skewed.

    Someone mentioned earlier that Dee Dee Wilson won her harrassment claim against GN, yet everyone conveniently ignores that; is she an innocent party? Hardly, but neither is GN.

    What are you going to do if/when Suzie Owlsey wins HER suit against GN? What about other pending claims against the man? Most on this blog will dismiss those, but you, Joel are a smart
    guy – someone who is involved in journalism. At some point, you may have to take a look in the mirror and say – “this guy duped me – he had us all fooled”.

  122. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    And you, DTR, I can imagine as bitter, vindictive old woman, who only derives happiness when she’s angry.

  123. Goldie
    July 7, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Bla bla bla…. and still no reason that’s worth the money spent to buy out Garr’s contract. This makes sense to all you? Keep it up with the ‘this side and that side’ talk and wonder where your money went later? This ain’t high school football.

  124. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    In fact, DTR, I think I will just call you LoSuelyvia BranDunScot, because, girlfriend, it just fits.

    Yeah, that big bad Matt Owen, who didn’t utter a word at the community forum, yet had Sylvia and Larry trying to bully him. Nice job, sweeties.

  125. tenth street dreamer
    July 7, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    So Eureka has moved on according to Joel M. Don’t get too excited just yet. The issues surrounding government take time to work their way into the ballot box. Chapter two, three, and four are in the history books. The latest chapter still has wet ink and feelings are still running high. The shock of Dee Dee showing up left many wondering what could happen next. Her ghost just keeps on giving. Dave’s strength under fire was heroic, as the rebels stormed the chamber Friday, and on Tuesday night the rebels were pushed back by loyalists in all their spit shined Armour. It is a well told and warn story. The old guard circles around the king. But a couple of battles can not be seen as the conclusion of the war. Stay tuned.

  126. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    8:16 – you do protest too much. If you were so confident, you wouldn’t be trying so hard to convince us otherwise.

    I don’t know any of these people but it appears to be like junior high within Eureka city government. Perhaps Garr was part of it; certainly DD and this Owlsley woman were. And from my outsider point of view, the city manager is at the center of it all.

    I don’t give a shit about Larry Glass and I find him pompous at times. What I do care about, and so should you, is that I’m paying for this crap through my sales tax. And that’s not the doing of Larry Glass or the women from the west side. It’s because the city manager couldn’t keep the middle-schoolers in line. He’s the manager and he was in the position to get this under control. He didn’t and now we are paying for his damage control.

  127. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    “8:16 – you do protest too much. If you were so confident, you wouldn’t be trying so hard to convince us otherwise.”

    PRICELESS!!! If my three comments here constitute such a response, then what the fark is this blog but a whole shitpile of “protest too much” – thread after thread piling on the political opponents of flying heraldos.

    No, 8:37, methinks this blog doth protest too much, along with the 5 to 8 persistent commentors who likely account for 80 percent of the comments.

  128. anon
    July 7, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    DD did NOT win a lawsuit against Nielsen, she didn’t even have a lawsuit against him. Do you just make this shit up? DD did LOSE a sexual harassment claim against Nielsen and the city and she did SETTLE a lawsuit Hansen had against her when it was found out she was responsible for harassment to Hansen.

    Are you perhaps thinking of the money Tyson (in the name of the city) paid DD to resign even though they caught her in a lie in her depositions? Well, that was because DD’s sister, Pam, also Tyson’s assistant then, threatened to spill the beans on Tyson’s office romances unless Tyson saw to it that DD got a settlement.

  129. July 7, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    my three comments here

    Make that six on this thread from this particular anonymous.

  130. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Dee Dee is a nasty piece of work. Is Pam still working for the city?

  131. Anonymous
    July 7, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Thanks Heraldo for the chuckle.

  132. July 8, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Just for the sake of clarity: Feet, not yards.

    I know… who cares?

  133. Anonymous
    July 8, 2011 at 6:21 am

    I talked to someone that actually attended the council meeting. He painted a different story than is indicated on this blog or by reading anything from the T/S.

    Nielsen is gone. It is a good thing for the EPD, the city, and actually the county too since many people that live in the county do business in Eureka.

    Maybe you should suspend this issue until we learn how much the lawsuit by S. Owsley is settled? You may be talking out the other side of your mouth. Dumping Nielsen was a smart financial move, who knows how much money he will cost teh city. The rest of the story, the real story.

    Just a thought

  134. anon
    July 8, 2011 at 6:30 am

    I guess you could say that if you believed the Hansen lawsuit was all Garr’s fault. But since he wasn’t named in it, and Tyson and the city were, and it cost over half a million when all was said and done because Tyson didn’t take care of business when he should have, I think you have your facts and view skewed just a bit. Drinking DD’s kool-aid no doubt, hope not eating like her.

  135. anon
    July 8, 2011 at 6:37 am

    And FYI yet again. If the city settles with Suzy, or rather, the insurance company does, it will follow on the fact that so far all her claims have been DENIED in every step of the process. She is definitely a nuisance in their view, but they haven’t found a place to transfer her that wants to take her, so if she gets money it will be like DD did, more or less go away and leave us alone, and it probably wont cover much considering what she has spent in attorneys fees and burned in sick and vacation time.

  136. Suzy Q
    July 8, 2011 at 7:06 am

    Suzy O is worthless excuse for an employee, she never should have been hired. Suzy has been drawing a paycheck for doing nothing.
    This has gone on for years. Cut her loose!

  137. insider
    July 8, 2011 at 7:13 am

    Tyson will probably pay her off, to keep her quiet. The bigger the payoff the more she knew.

  138. Next door nieghbors?
    July 8, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Anonymous 6:21 what are you even talking about. Smart financial move? Really?

  139. Next door nieghbors?
    July 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Actually, someone should have clued Garr in about the gig he was being hired to do. They should have sat him down and said “OK. here’s the deal. You make sure not fire anyone that is not doing there job properly. Make sure you suck up to the City Manager. Ignore those people on the west side of town cause we have have to keep the slum lords in business. See? It say’s in the housing element of the general plan that we want to get rid of home owners in that area, so ignore them. Hopefully they will all move away. Overtime is cool go for it”. If they had only told him how they wanted this town run into the ground just like it has always been, we wouldn’t have to pay out all this money for nothing and stress everyone out.

  140. Anonymous
    July 8, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Well, hello anon,

    The City sure didn’t deny any claim when it came to her harassment claim against Garr – it was “SUSTAINED”, which means Garr was taken to the woodshed on that charge.

  141. tra
    July 8, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Scott Brown, in a Letter to the Editor in the North Coast Journal, argues that Tyson and the Gang of Four shouldn’t be hiding behind the old “we can’t comment because it’s a personnel decision” excuse:

    Eureka City Manager David Tyson and the Eureka City Council can’t have it both ways …Mr. Tyson fired Chief of Police Garr Nielson with the council’s blessing, but no one wants to talk about it, so they are calling it a confidential personnel decision. But Chief Nielson was officially fired “without cause,” which means it wasn’t a personnel matter-it was a management decision. And management decisions are not supposed to be secret….

    …At the very least, Mr. Tyson and the council members who agreed with the firing of the chief should have been able to explain to the public what they envision for the Eureka Police Department in the future. They could have explained what qualities they want in a chief, without relating it to Garr Nielson. After all, they will shortly begin the search for a new chief, and if the old chief wasn’t right for Eureka, what criteria will they use to judge the applicants?…

    More:

    http://www.northcoastjournal.com/news/2011/07/07/firing-fireworks/

  142. Down the Road
    July 9, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Here is a little feedback from some of the older or elderly people
    at this last council meeting. Stupid me I didn’t even notice it.

    There were armed police officers with night sticks in their belts
    at each entrance of the council room. They were also lined
    up against the back wall. Apparently it was some kind of show
    of force. Maybe it was because a ad had been run in the newspaper about this meeting. Whatever it was, it was definitely
    a show of power and intimidated some of the older people that
    came to speak. They did not speak from fear.

    This speaks volumes about the mentality of those in charge.

  143. Anonymous
    July 9, 2011 at 9:10 am

    OMFG, you are nuts DTR! Those same officers were your friends before Garr was let go. Nothing’s changed.

  144. insider
    July 9, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Tyson was threatening Garr, not to have his officers show up in force to council meetings. I would conclude they where there at his request and/or with his blessing.

  145. High Finance
    July 9, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Down the Road finally said something at 9.05am I agree with. He is “stupid”.

  146. Down the Road
    July 9, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I did not say that I didn’t appreciate the police department. I am
    saying none of the armed uniformed police spoke at the council meeting.

    Never before has there been armed police in that chamber,
    particularly that number. The mentality that orchestrated this
    is old time bullying.

    For the record Hi Fi: I couldn’t began to be as stupid as you
    or your right wing friends. In fact, I have never seen or been
    subject to the low intelligence level of this area. The people
    in charge of Eureka in the past and present do not have the
    slightest idea on how to make a healthy thriving city. By the
    way I know who you are. I have also witnessed your screw
    ups. Does accounting sound familiar to you?

  147. Anonymous
    July 9, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Downtheroad,

    Your stupidity is staggering, almost as insanely idiotic as “insider’s”!.

    Their boss just let go; these officers were either still on duty (and have every right to be there to check on the proceedings, unless called out), or just off duty.

    “Stupid me” doesn’t even begin to paint your ignorance; I have seen both uniformed police officers and firemen standing at the back at numerous council meetings. Did you ever think for a moment the ones near the door were there so they would be able to leave unobtrusively if called out?

    Tyson was “threatening Garr”????? Dayum, outsider, Garr was up in Oregon, according to either the radio, paper or kslg. How exactly can he “threaten” someone four hundred miles away, and how exactly are uniformed officers a threat, particularly when there is an audience and the proceedings are televised?

    “By the
    way I know who you are. I have also witnessed your screw
    ups. Does accounting sound familiar to you?”

    So, spill it DTR, who exactly IS HiFi? I doubt you have a clue, sweetie.

    DTR, saying this: “Never before has there been armed police in that chamber,
    particularly that number. The mentality that orchestrated this
    is old time bullying” –

    Shows what a complete and utter moron you are sweetie. Again, they have been there many times – in fact, they were there, in and out of uniform, in large numbers the last time the council approved their contract back in 2006 or 07.

    Your memory also sucks – remember the whole vote of no confidence with regards to Garr? the chambers were packed in April 2008 when EPD showed in force when they gave a vote of no confidence in Garr, and urged the council not to continue his employment.

  148. Ed
    July 9, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    I noticed the police presence too Down the road, they tried to keep it subtle, but even on TV one could see the weapons and nightstick-clad officer roaming the hall and checking out any new arrivals. The council was indeed circling the wagons.

  149. pete
    July 9, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    If these are they the same officers it shows that Chief did make a difference by being good leader. Most of the drug houses are now closed down. These houses went on forever until Garr showed up. No one is knocking the cops. Neilsen made enemy’s because he made a few lazy old timers get off their asses and do something.

  150. anon
    July 10, 2011 at 12:57 am

    Anonymous, 2:41 It is your memory that sucks. There was never a vote of no confidence, EVER, taken by the police union against Nielsen. The police department was decidedly not out in force. The dozen or show who showed up at that meeting spoke on their own, were not representing anyone but themselves and were definitely in the minority. Also, I believe a citizen at the same meeting said that if the council postponed giving the chief a contract, they better get a bigger venue, as the next meeting would be packed with people in the community very happy with the changes, thus the unanimous yes vote by the council.

  151. High Finance
    July 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    The Times Standard reported it was 15 members of the police department Anon. That was an amazing show of a lack of confidence in their chief. To have 30% of the department speak out publicly at a televised event is unprecedented.

    And Down The Road, if you knew even half of what you think you know you wouldn’t have such screwy ideas.

  152. July 10, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    The “black Friday” meeting was not televised.

    But one look at who was doing the crying at that meeting tells you why the culture at EPD needed to change.

  153. Anonymous
    July 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Go back and look at who spoke, HIFI. Your math is faulty for sure. If you are going to say 15 then you have to count uniform and civilian, which the paper did, and in that case, it is far from 30% of the department. At best 10-15%. They weren’t even all current employees either. A coupla retired folks who were hired back part time, the self-proclaimed dispatch queen who got promoted for godsakes and then cried when she was moved from dispatch, then proceeded to initiate her reign of terror for which the city paid dearly, the “PIO” Suzy who couldn’t string 2 sentences together for the paper and always had to ask cops what to say (and hey guess what, they didnt even need a PIO anymore since they weren’t shooting anyone!) and a few swat guys who were responsible for 80% of the overtime and weren’t getting to buy so many toys on the city’s dime anymore. Really, go back and look at who spoke. You make a habit of blowing smoke out your ass but maybe people would listen if something actually came from your brain.

  154. Anonymous
    July 13, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Just read that letter in the Times Standard Opinion section from Bob Williams. He got up at the council meeting and trashed Chief Neilsen. What the hell is he doing here? He lives in Fortuna. That makes almost everyone that spoke against Neilsen out of towner’s. Oh, I forgot about one I can’t remember if it was a he or a she.

  155. Bingo
    July 13, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    I just saw a Eureka Police Services pickup parked on E at 3rd. It was there for a good hour. Suzy Owsley was in Ramones writing out what looked like birthday invitations.

    EPD back at work.

  156. Anonymous
    July 13, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Bingo get a life… isn’t a person allowed to have lunch?

  157. Anonymous
    July 13, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    When the drug houses start up again will Suzy Owsley once again wave to the drug dealers?

  158. anon
    July 13, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Mr. Williams: You don’t even live in Eureka, you didn’t work for or under Nielsen, and you apparently are good old boy judging by your friendships and the use of the word “bogus.”
    A reasoned opinion piece? I think not.

  159. pattycakes
    July 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Owsley made a bargain with the devil, oops, Tyson:
    Get rid of Nielsen and let her go back to not actually doing any work and she would drop her nuisance lawsuit (which she only filed because workmens compensation denied her previous claims & she had no more sick or vacation time). Won’t be long before she is PIO’ing again (which to her was having to ask real cops what she could say and not say). And she will be scouring the internet for recipes on the city’s dime again, too. No one would hire her when she was looking for another job all those months, not even her friend Cherie, because her reputation precedes her. Too bad she has dirt on Tyson and he has to keep her.

  160. Anonymous
    July 14, 2011 at 1:22 am

    Susy Owsley is a multi-facited gal. She’s the recipe Mavin. She is the one that PRETENDS to care about neighborhhoods problems. She is adept at ignoring full tilt drug dealers. For years she gave fabulous lip service to the citizens that looked to the police for help in their drug infested neighborhoods. All this was done while spreading lies about Neilson. What a gal. She thinks it’s acceptable that the drug dealers and prostitutes feel so comfortabe that they wave to her as she cruises the neighborhoods in a Crown Victoria or unmarked car. Suzy and Dee Dee must have been twins seperated at birth. This is the really ugly part of Eureka. A place so beautiful with it’s historic architecture on the bay. Sadly the two truly ugly women are pulling the city of Eureka back a century and a half.

  161. Anonymous
    July 14, 2011 at 3:15 am

    Aside from the years of lip service to residents the biggest lies started when Chief Neilsen made Suzy actually do some work. She continues saying things that are untrue to make the Chief look bad. She is a vengeful person that will lie to get even.

  162. Walt
    July 14, 2011 at 5:56 am

    Saw an oval “I trust Dave” bumper sticker yesterday.

  163. July 14, 2011 at 6:23 am

    “and how exactly are uniformed officers a threat,”

    If you don’t know, then the reason will escape you even if you are told.

    It is the same reason that having a huge gang of police outside a polling place is considered voter intimidation. Did you see any other group 15 to 20 strong ARMED WITH HIGH POWER HAND GUNS in the meeting room?

  164. Anonymous
    July 14, 2011 at 7:53 am

    “Dump Dave” Bumper Stickers and Buttons are free at The Works.

  165. Down the Road
    July 14, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Hi Fi: You are always ready with your opinion. Too bad it is not
    a well read education one.

  166. pattycakes
    July 14, 2011 at 9:23 am

    Suzy is too stupid to realize flapping her gums and lying about Nielsen all over town makes her look a lot worse than he ever was. If she was truly a victim she wouldn’t have to say anything at all. She apparently never learned that actions speak louder than words. And that’s why no one else would hire her, they didn’t want her around.

  167. High Finance
    July 16, 2011 at 9:01 am

    LOL

    Obviously Down the Road needs some of that “well read education one” himself !

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