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Eureka rush hour shooter was Courthouse Market worker

Mark Anthony Nelson

The suspect in a shooting at the intersection of 14th and H Streets Monday that put a woman in the hospital turned himself in this morning, according to the Times-Standard.

The shooting occurred at about 5:30pm.  Mark Anthony Nelson reportedly fired several shots at the woman, who was driving behind him, through the back window of his car.  She is in serious condition.

Nelson’s co-worker was interviewed on KSLG this morning (listen here). He said Nelson went to work shortly after the shooting and said the rear window had been shot out of his car.

MORE: EPD Issues Press Release Concerning Last Night’s Shooting

  1. Carla Baku
    July 26, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    I drove past the scene not long after it happened and figured it was yet another traffic accident–there are a lot of them at that intersection. Hoping the woman makes a full recovery and really wondering what the motive was.

  2. tra
    July 26, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    According tot he EPD Press Release:

    Based on witness interviews, it appears that a silver sedan and the red SUV were traveling s/b on H Street at about the 1000 block, when the red vehicle rear ended the silver sedan several times. As this took place the driver of the silver sedan fired several shots through the rear window of his vehicle into the windshield of the red SUV.

    http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2011/jul/26/epd-last-nights-shooting/

    So according to the eyewitnesses, it seems that the woman was ramming the guy’s car from behind. I;m not sure quite what to make of that.

    Anyway, it sounds like there is going to be quite a backstory to this.

  3. Curley
    July 26, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Bumper sticker: “If you can see muzzle flashes you’re following too close.”

  4. Decline To State
    July 26, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    As soon as Garr leaves we’re back to SWAT teams and shooting in the streets again. I blame Tyson.

  5. Curley
    July 26, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    That’s being good and proactive with the blame. Let’s hope it turns out that way so you’ll be right.

  6. July 26, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    As far as the shooter goes, I have purchased my Arcata Eye from Mark Nelson for about the past year. I see him almost every Wednesday morning and he seemed to be pretty cool or chill.
    I saw the way he would handle himself with the locals there and would have to say that firing a gun at people seems out of character for him.

  7. July 26, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Decline To State, I checked with the EPD about the Swat Team thing. Garr dismantled it but allowed any officer in the team to join with the Humboldt County Sheriff’s team. They are essentially deputized by Sheriffs Office but remain as EPD.

  8. July 26, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    I’ve shopped at that store occasionally because it’s relatively close to my house. I’ve interacted with this Mark Nelson fellow lots of times . .He always appeared to be a really nice guy … There are lots of people I would have suspected of being a crook before him.

  9. Decline To State
    July 26, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    I knew that Tom, Hank Sims mentioned it in his blog. My posting was meant to be (sort of) tongue-in-cheek.

  10. July 26, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    There is also the strong possibility that Mark Nelson is the nice guy that he appeared to be. According to witnesses on the scene his car was being rammed from behind by the red car . If Nelson simply shot someone who was attacking him with a deadly weapon. That part is certainly defensible . It doesn’t necessarily excuse him from running away .Eventually he did the right thing and turned himself in but maybe dude just didn’t want to take his chances with the EPD SWAT team.

  11. July 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    It seems to me that the last time someone tried to run over a CHP officer or ram their patrol car, deadly force was used and justified.

  12. Anonymous
    July 26, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Is everyone driving in Eureka packing a gun?

  13. July 26, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Didn’t the Sheriffs just recently shoot dead someone who was threatening to whack them with a garden rake? To me A garden rake seems a good deal less life threatening .than being smashed by a speeding automobile.. Still don’t know what precipitated this set -to., however Looks like the ugly conclusion of some kind of domestic dispute..

  14. The Monitor
    July 26, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    “HE DID THE RIGHT THING” If he had done the right thing in the first place he would not be driving around with a gun, nor shooting someone with it. Even if the woman was climbing up his tail pipe, shooting her was not the right answer.

  15. Another anonymous
    July 26, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    He could have walked with at least 10 large and gotten lots of free massages if he just taken the hits and then filed a personal injury claim.

  16. July 26, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Swat teams? Shootings? Sounds terribly familiar. I guess the Good Old Days are back again. Now maybe if they could just resurect that old streetcar….(no, I don’t mean Merl. He’s beyond resurecting). Listen close and you can hear the banjo music in the distance.

  17. Anonymous
    July 26, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Yeah, its coming from Glass’ front porch out in Bayside.

  18. July 26, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Glass does not live in Bayside, you idiot.

  19. Anonymous
    July 26, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Sticks and stones…

  20. Anonymous
    July 26, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    I was driving behind the red vehicle that got shot… glad i always let people go in front of me. I didn’t hear the shooting, I saw the shot at vehicle swerve around the shooter and run the red light to get away. My friend I joked about citizens arrest for running a red light. soon after i passed the pulled over red vehicle and noticed the holes and blood on the windshield and the crunched in part of the car. very sad. and very crazy.
    I worked next to mark for over a year and would buy drinks almost daily on my breaks,
    what’s really scary is sometimes when i’m running late i speed. i can’t help but realize a moments difference can make a difference.

  21. SmokeMonster
    July 27, 2011 at 12:14 am

    Reasons to repeatedly ram a vehicle.
    1. They have something you want really bad.

    Reason to shoot car ramming you.
    1.You don’t want them to stop you and get something from you.

    Reason for having and firing a gun from a moving car.
    1. To help you get away from a planned crime

    Reason to drive off after being rammed by another vehicle and shooting said vehicle.

    To get rid of something in the vehicle.

    Not hard to figure this one out

  22. July 27, 2011 at 6:24 am

    You are making lot of assumptions , based on what we know so far he may have actually had a reason to shoot her . If she was trying to run into him in a car. He may have been carrying a gun because someone was threatening to run into him with a speeding automobile.

  23. July 27, 2011 at 7:25 am

    We all have the right to defend ourselves. If this woman was ramming his car, that is assault with a deadly weapon at minimum, (I can think of at least 5 more charges related to the assault, not including the traffic offenses) and as such you can use deadly force to stop the attack. No one knows if he owned the weapon legally, or if he had a CCP (concealed carry permit).

  24. Anonymous
    July 27, 2011 at 7:40 am

    Thanks to NRA, stuff like this happens easily since guns are so readily accessible.

  25. July 27, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Mr. Nelson is a clerk at a liquor store. It is completely understandable to me that he might feel the need to pack some heat.

    We do have an appalling level of gun violence in the good ole USA, but it is no mystery why a liquor store clerk would be carrying, and he no doubt would have the gun on his person on the way to and from work.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  26. Blackcoffee
    July 27, 2011 at 8:37 am

    So…How come her name has not been published yet?

  27. Daisy
    July 27, 2011 at 9:25 am

    I fail to see how any part of this situation should be blamed on any council member, SWAT, or the abscence of Garr. An untrained person shooting a likely illegal firearm over his shoulder while driving in a residential neighborhood seems to be the person we should be scrutinizing.

  28. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 9:26 am

    It is. Indeed curious why the name of the shooting victim has yet to be released. T
    My question is why the SWAT team thought it was neccessary to roust all of his neighbors out of their beds if they already knew he wasn’t there? Appearntly intimidating poor people with large displays of weaponry takes prcedence over actual police work. Garr’s only been gone a month and the Keystone Kommandos are back.

  29. Daisy
    July 27, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Robash, apparently you know the operating practices of SWAT to make such an assumption? Nowhere have I read that SWAT knew the suspect was not there. Would you rather have had a shootout in an apartment building filled with innocent people? After all, we know the suspect was armed and did not use discretion in the use of his firearm. It seems an evacuation of the building would be a necessary safety precaution.

  30. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 10:21 am

    According to the newspaper reports the cops were in contact with the suspect shortly after the incident and they knew where he was. It doesn’t matter that much If I don’t know thw proper procedures for a SWAT team I do worry about the SWAT team not knowing the proper procedures themselves.

  31. SmokeMonster
    July 27, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Robash- I make a lot of assumptions huh? YOU JUMP TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GARRS GONE AND “KEYSTONE KOPS” ARE BACK…Hmmmmm.

    My post will be closer to the truth than any garbage you post.

  32. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Besides It’s probably a heck of a lot more fun for the SWAT team memberes to stomp around in their Rambo\commando gear setting off flash bang devices than it was taking boring assed reports about stolen bikes and punks stabbing holes in peoples tires like Garr was making tham do.

  33. SmokeMonster
    July 27, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Robash- Your logic is moronic,that last post clarified that.

    I read the TS article as well you obviously do not possess any reading comprehension skills either. Sad

  34. Daisy
    July 27, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Garr was not in command of SWAT. And yes, I’m quite sure the members of SWAT enjoy arbitrarily putting innocent people at risk, putting themselves in danger, and creating a situation in which they could be sued and lose their careers and homes. Sounds like a good time to me. (Said in jest)

  35. Charleton Heston
    July 27, 2011 at 11:08 am

    If someone ever repeatedly rammed my car for any reason, well, it’s fucking on, bitches. You anti-gun hippies would probably let someone rape your mother in front of you and then offer them a fucking bong rip when they were done. In my book, vehicular assault is grounds for getting yourself shot. Period.

  36. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 11:16 am

    The SWAT team members who slaughtered Cheri Moore largely escaped without negatve consequences. We have a Mayor and a Police Chief who were actively involved in the cover-up. What’s there to be mistrustful about?

  37. July 27, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Well then “Charleston”

    Presumably you would support the idea of arming the masses?

    The State of California could provide at no cost a full auto AK to every adult citizen non-felon, along with a suitable supply of ammo. That way all men and women could have their “equalizers created”, to paraphrase the old saw.

    The more guns, the less crime, that is the Mantra, isn’t it Charleston?

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  38. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 11:47 am

    I geneally find anyone shooting anyone to be deplorable but the Murl PD has an unfortunate history of arbirarily deciding which citizens are worthy of police services and which ones are not.. If a person lacking the right complexion or the right connections they might very well be SOL if they call the cops in Eureka now.

  39. Daisy
    July 27, 2011 at 11:57 am

    The innuendo of racism seems quite inappropriate as several, if not most, suspects involved in law enforcement shootings were caucasian. Me thinks you have an axe to grind.

  40. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Not a”s innappropriate” as that fullisade of bullets that ripped through Cheri Moore. Youire correct though they would probably kill a poor white person just as quick a a black or hispanic one.

  41. sappy33
    July 27, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    I know the Nelson guy. A nice fellow, a good worker. Well-liked at Courthouse Market. It’s too bad he responded in this way. He should have pulled off, jotted down her license plate number, and reported her right away for reckless driving. Having a loaded gun in the car is the problem. Without it, he would have been forced to think things out rationally. Instead, he reacted emotionally to the moment, and two people are now very messed up. Additionally, Nelson could have shot other people in this case of using poor judgment. He does have a slight defense though, and I’m sure he’ll make every use of it.

  42. Daisy
    July 27, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Robash, or do you prefer Robert? Perhaps the energy expended on your angst toward the local police could better be directed toward something positive. The Northcoast Stand Down, which I see you support, or even updating your profile on the international dating service site? Just a thought.

  43. tra
    July 27, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    There’s obviously a lot more to this story than we know at this point — people don’t usually just start repeatedly ramming the car ahead of them at random and for no reason, and people who get rear-ended don’t usually respond by shooting he driver in the car that rear-ended them, and then fleeing the scene. I’d be willing to bet that the woman who was repeatedly ramming his car with hers was not doing so by accident or at random, and that he was well aware of her motivation, whatever it may have been.

    Clearly we don’t yet have enough information to reach any conclusion about what exactly led to this incident or how much blame to assign to either or both of them for the violent confrontation, but I think it’s safe to say that as the situation unfolded, both of them acted quite irresponsibly, endangering both themselves and innocent bystanders.

  44. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Daisy, you’re doing pretty much what I would expect out of some Dave Tyson honk.. Notice how this erstwhile defender of law and order gets all creepy and stalkerish when pressed.

  45. Anonymous
    July 27, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    This is beginning to sound like Oakland. Happens all the time.

  46. SmokeMonster
    July 27, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    TRA- only rational poster aside from myself so far on this.

    DOLTS-robash,sappy33,etc…

  47. Plain Jane
    July 27, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    It seems like a big waste of time to even be discussing this with so few facts.

  48. Daisy
    July 27, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    When pressed? I don’t feel pressed in the least. I’ve never been accused of being creepy, so thanks for that feather in my cap. I simply had a hunch about who you are and sought to confirm. Or maybe I’m really Tyson undercover.

  49. Plain Jane
    July 27, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    WOW! What an incredible sleuth you are, Daisy. Rob Ash is Rob Ash?? It is a bit creepy stalkerish to find a local person on an international dating site and then post the information on a blog in an attempt to embarrass him because you don’t like his views, but it’s more pathetic than creepy. Is “Daisy” being paid to internet stalk with taxpayer money? She should stick to recipes.

  50. Daisy
    July 27, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Nah, I’m not much of a cook. I wish I was getting paid to enjoy this beautiful sunshine I’ve been sitting in but no such luck. Maybe I should follow my own advice about positive energy and take the dog for a walk or something. Sorry for not playing nice.

  51. Not a Hater
    July 27, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    I was listening to my scanner when Mark Nelson was trying to turn himself in to Fortuna PD. It was between 11:30pm and midnite. And finally turned himself in the following morning according to reports.
    Also EPD does not have a SWAT team. The sherrifs dept has a swat team made up of members of all different law enforcement agencies. I think if you check there are not many officers who were members of the former EPD SWAT team are even on the new SWAT team. Also Murl Harpham was not in charge of the Cheri Moore fiasco Dave Douglas was and he is not longer with EPD as he retired.
    This is just info. I am not advocating any person just giving out some info that I know to be true.

  52. robash141
    July 27, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    I wasn’t even aware I was on the international dating site. I’ll have to check it out. The local talent has been leaving me a bit uninspired lately.:-)
    Murl was Douglas’s right hand man during that period. Whenever you saw Chief Douglas Murl was there too . Besides one of Cheri Moore,s killers was named Harpham. Pretty sure Murl pulled whatever strings were availaable to help his boy out.

  53. Anonymous
    July 27, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    I keep asking myself why I come back here to read comments. The articles Heraldo posts are fine, but the comments! What a f’ing waste of time!

  54. July 27, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    I have done business at Courthouse while Mark was at the register. No nonsense and quick. Just sad this has happened. I am sure we will hear more. Obviously he has some morals, he turned himself in. Let us hope and pray for a full recovery of the victim. Violence in any form is not welcomed.

  55. SmokeMonster
    July 27, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    “It seems like a a big waste of time to be discussing with so few facts”.

    Go look at the wal Mart threads, you talk out your ass at length over a story with just as few known facts.

  56. Plain Jane
    July 27, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Your ignorance of the problems associated with Walmart doesn’t mean I’ve been talking out my ass, Smokey. There are many studies to support a negative opinion of Walmart and only low priced junk made by virtual slave labor to recommend it. I would recommend you read “How Walmart is Destroying America” and at least a few of the many studies done on the effects of Walmart so you’re not just blowing Walmart cheers out your ass when you, in fact, know little to nothing about them.

  57. SmokeMonster
    July 28, 2011 at 12:56 am

    I was referencing the first threads discussing the rumor of wal mart going into the mall. NOTHING to do with their business practices.They are garbage,no argument.

    Are they alone?

    Don’t support them.

    WHo the F are you? a self appointed guardian of the low IQ population,sent here to stop them from shopping where they choose?

    My point was using wal mart as a quick example because unlike daisy I dont care enough about you to look for more examples of you jumping to conclusions over very little known true information……. although im sure there’s a plethora of them on this site,you talk a lot

  58. Plain Jane
    July 28, 2011 at 5:51 am

    In other words, you were just talking out your ass, Smokey. I research and comment on what interests me and ignore what doesn’t. If you don’t like reading my comments, don’t, and I’ll just ignore your cyber farts as well.

  59. Anonymous
    July 28, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Jane, why do you always accuse those who disagree and don’t read your history of comments (about the equivalent of skimming of War and Peace) or believe all you spout to be ignorant or lacking in comprehension skills. You just a disagreeable person. I agree with you so often, but your way of arguing puts me off even when I am on the same page.

  60. Plain Jane
    July 28, 2011 at 7:13 am

    Anonymous 6:57, Maybe if you picked an ID and used it your views could be critiqued on an even playing field. However, your pot shots, which could be your first post or one of thousands, insulting me for responding in an insulting way to Smokemonster’s insulting post is why I don’t give a rat’s ass for your opinion of my debating tactics or my views.

  61. Cristina Bauss
    July 28, 2011 at 8:24 am

    I’d like to know about Mark Nelson “trying to turn himself in to Fortuna PD” the evening before he actually succeeded in turning himself in. Not A Hater, can you elaborate?

  62. Anonymous
    July 28, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Thousands of comments have been written to insult you? I might listen to that if I were you, Jane.

  63. robash141
    July 28, 2011 at 8:57 am

    If Nelson was in Fortuna trying to turn himself in to Foruna PD why di the SWAT team feel it was neccessary to go roust all of his neighbors out of bed in the middle of the night and basically treat them like criminals. Sounds like ol’ school EPD assholishness is back!

  64. Plain Jane
    July 28, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Thanks for the advice which demonstrates you don’t understand the use of commas around a phrase in a sentence, 8:24. I’d keep using anonymous if I were you since your posts are certainly nothing worth claiming.

  65. Anonymous
    July 28, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Exactly my point. People read things different ways, including data. Your data, statistical data, but most commonly, sentence structure that is written with such vagueness. The comma separating those clauses could separate or include the two ideas.

  66. Plain Jane
    July 28, 2011 at 9:43 am

    The point taken is that you rightly take no pride in your posts, 9:30. Now GFY, please.

  67. Goldie
    July 28, 2011 at 9:51 am

    While the comma discussion is deeply intriguing and important to the continuation of civilization as we know it, a very important question has been raised by Robash: “If Nelson was in Fortuna trying to turn himself in to Foruna PD why did the SWAT team feel it was necessary to go roust all of his neighbors out of bed in the middle of the night?”

  68. Anonymous
    July 28, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Haha! Another gem from Jane. You are right in that posting here is what I take pride in day to day.

  69. Not a Hater
    July 28, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I was packing for a trip and not listening very intently. I heard that a possible 187 suspect wanted to turn himself in to Fortuna PD. The officers were busy on other calls and they called a sergent in to deal with it. And at one time I thought I heard that he was in tthe back parking lot but I am uncertain about that.
    I thought there was a lot of talk about it and not a lot of action but thats just my impression from what I heard on the scanner which is not always a lot of info.

  70. Anonymous
    July 28, 2011 at 11:21 am

    187 is homicide

  71. robash141
    July 28, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Another thing that’s curious is that there is almost no information about the woman who got shot. No name location or update on her condnition. Since the shooter is in jail there’s no way he could come back to get finish her off I never can recall the. Local authorities being so tight lipped about the name and condition of a crime victim

  72. Cristina Bauss
    July 29, 2011 at 8:23 am

    The thing is, they might both be crime victims AND criminals. Repeatedly ramming the back of someone else’s car with one’s own vehicle qualifies as “assault with a deadly weapon” too, doesn’t it? It is indeed curious that his identity has been released and hers has not.

  73. July 29, 2011 at 9:43 am

    The thing is, they might both be crime victims AND criminals.

    It certainly seems like it. The paper today says he has at least two prior convictions for violent crimes. I’m guessing the girl knew him and might well have her own criminal history.

    That doesn’t mean much in itself but I’d be interested in knowing the entire circumstances behind this.

    I’m also one who considers someone deliberately running into someone’s car assault with a deadly weapon which might justify a deadly force as a response. It depends on how it all came about.

    I get the impression she was pissed at him over something.

  74. robash141
    July 29, 2011 at 10:44 am

    ReportIt is indeed curious that his glowering mug shot is on the front page othe front page of the paper while her identity appears to be a closelyguarded secret.since it seems quite possible that she may havethe aggressor in this situation. I can’t help but think back to an incident that happened several years ago (pre_Garr days)when my brother was involved in an accident with a young woman who abruptly made an illegal U turn in front of him when the EPD showed up they appeared to know her. They basically said ” you both have insurance I’m sure you can work it out” whereupon they took off without making a report. The lady then gave my brother a fake name and info and promptly split herself. This was the kind of professionalism that won them such high esteem in the community. It’s not just that they would fail to catch crooks they would actually protect lawbreakers who were personally known to them.

  75. Mr. Nice
    July 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    They ain’t got no fucking evidence.

    For serious tho, this bitch prolly tried to monster car smash since he didn’t cash her welfare check without ID or he took her spot at the mall or some other bullshit.

    She a friend of the EPD like robash141 saying, sure you’re right. She prolly booty bumps that meth. Ain’t no cop friend, she prolly got all the birdies in the box and she talking. Sayin how inna fuck you finna ram your SUV all up on somebody hella times. Anybody might panic and end up shooting before that adrenaline wear off. Ain’t like he followed her to where she sleep at and dumped the body in Weott like folks around here be doing. All dude did was shoot at someone tryna kill him. Y’all wouldn’t shoot at someone tryna kill you?

  76. July 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Don’t endorse the misogynistic parts of parts of that last comment by Mr Nice or using guns to resolve traffic disputes . mind you . Just trying to make sense of strange and heretofore unexplained violent event that took place very close to my home . I drive through that intersection every day. I was there only ten minutes before this incident occurred.
    Never been terribly worried about Casey Anthony or what happpens to her but I am concerned when crazy violent stuff is happening in my own neighborhood… .

  77. Mr. Nice
    July 29, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Callin anybody a bitch no matter gender. Nothing misogynistic, a bitch is a bitch.

  78. July 30, 2011 at 11:56 am

    I’ll give you credit for at least know the definition…. My big concern is that someone was shot only a short distance from my home . It’s almost a week later later and I still don’t know who it was or how seriously she may have been injured and only the vaguest reasons about why it may have happened..

  79. Anne on a Mouse
    July 30, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    A man using the term “bitch”, as an insult, to either a male or female, is misogynistic because it is dependent on construing a woman’s gender negatively. On the other hand, because men aren’t an oppressed group, the words “dick”, “prick”, etc. don’t have the same affect culturally.

  80. sexy85
    July 31, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    I am freiends wit mark, he is an awesome guy. he would never hurt it anybody unless there was a reason to do it. and he is real chill.

  81. Anonymous
    August 2, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Mr. Nice enjoys using a dialect he supposes to be an AA dialect, to further his presumeably racist agenda. Mr Nice isn’t so nice, is he?

  82. robash141
    August 2, 2011 at 9:39 am

    PNot terribly interested in what affectaions Mr Nice chooses to present. It’s been more than a week now and we know almost nothing about what happened. Appearntly the EPD does not believe it owes the pulic any sort of explaination beyond ” a scary black guy did it”

  83. Cristina Bauss
    August 2, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Judging from the comments on this thread, “a scary black guy” is exactly what he isn’t. It’s bullshit that we haven’t heard anything else about what happened, AND that her identity hasn’t been released yet. WTF?

  84. Cristina Bauss
    August 2, 2011 at 11:50 am

    P.S. to Rob: I know you’re not implicating that he actually IS “a scary black guy.”

  85. Plain Jane
    August 2, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    This seems to be a very complicated case (if any of the rumors are true) and the police are probably still investigating. That the “victim’s” name hasn’t been released yet is very odd. Maybe they are worried that all the craziness going on (homeless burning and rush hour shooting) will hurt tourism if they report on it.

  86. robash141
    August 2, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Well it is scary in the sense that someone has been shot very near my house regardless of who is doing the shooting. That’s disturbing Anyone who feels compelled to solve their problems with gunfire. IS scary I have met this Mark Nelson on a few occasions and he certainly seemed like a nice guy. Seems like we are only given a very limited part of the story. The victim of the shooting seems to have inexplicaby disappeared without a trace. It’s not just that they won’t release her name they won’t say anything at all about her.

  87. Plain Jane
    August 2, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    I think a psychopath setting people on fire is pretty scary too. I mean, WTF?

  88. robash141
    August 2, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Certainly no argument there Jane, but I think you may have adequately explained that situation with the words “some pyschopath”
    The Nelson shooting seems much more mysterious and complicated.

  89. tra
    August 2, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    I’m assuming that the “psychopath” you folks are referring to is the woman who tried to set fire to the sleeping homeless guy.

    Maybe it was just some random act of violence by a psychopath. A far more disturbing possibility is that this act was a reflection of the kind of violently hostile rhetoric that always seems to crop up in online discussions of the “homeless problem” in our area.

    Consider also the periodic police “crackdowns” on homeless camps, in which the EPD would slash tents and seize sleeping bags, blankets, clothes, food and other survival equipment.

    Yes, actually setting fire to a homeless guy is a step beyond “just” destroying or seizing survival equipment…but not really that big a step.

    When homeless people are constantly scapegoated and demonized, when those who try to help them (like Betty Chinn with her feeding program and the new shower facility) are often disparaged as “enablers” who supposedly act as a “magnet” that supposedly attracts more homeless people, and when you have a city police department that has (until very recently) had a policy of systematically destroying homeless people’s shelters and seizing food, clothing, sleeping bags, blankets and other survival gear, well then sadly it would not be all that surprising to find out that the woman who attempted to set fire to the homeless guy thought she was doing something that some in our local community would approve of.

  90. August 2, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Yeah lol anybody see Rose around that time of day?
    Maybe she just lost it completely from too much arguing with all those unpatriotic
    Ingrate hippies on the Humboldt Herald.;

    I’ve never actually heard anyone say anything bad about Betty Chinn.or her charitable works Maybe that Davenport, asshole he;s about the only one I could imagine doing that sort of thing.
    .

  91. tra
    August 2, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Check out the comment threads attached to Humboldt Herald posts about Chinn and her work — as I recall, there was quite a bit of vitriol directed her way.

    And when the Times-Standard still had anonymous comments, it was even worse on the comment threads there.

  92. Anonymous
    August 3, 2011 at 7:41 am

    “The Nelson shooting seems much more mysterious and complicated.”

    It’s only as complicated as you wish to make it.

  93. robash141
    August 3, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Well 7:41 if everything is so straightfoward and simple, why do the authorites appear loathe to release any information. Given the EPD’ s history of non-responsivness it makes me suspicious.that we are not getting anything close to the whole story.

  94. robash141
    August 3, 2011 at 9:19 am

    Well 7:41 if everything is so straightfoward and simple, why do the authorites appear loathe to release any information. Given the EPD’ s history of non-responsivness it makes me suspicious.that we are not getting anything close to the whole story. At the very least they.could say something like “we can’t release any info because it will comprimise our investigation” but they are not even bothering to do that…

  95. August 3, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Being rammed from behind can and will cause great bodily injury. If the man simply pulled over to the side to take the womans license number, would that have stopped her attacks? To those who don’t believe in self defense I hope you never are faced with having to prevent someone from killing you. As for not being trained…looked like he was a pretty good shot. However, why don’t the powers that be want us to hear the facts as they exist??? Could it be that neither of these combatants should have been out free with the rest of us??

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