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Climate change and the redwoods

Former Vice President Al Gore is sick of the pseudo-scientist “bullshit” propagated by the climate change deniers he said in a speech Monday.

Meanwhile, local redwood tree expert Steve Sillett says we don’t need to be “freaking out” about climate change, but the changes could result in an environment that no longer supports redwood forests.

Gosh, why would anyone freak out about that?

Report from Planet Forward.

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  1. The Big Picture
    August 8, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    As long as “community media” serves its corporate masters by serving us human-interest voyeurism, few will know that they are living amid the 6th largest extinction event of life on Earth.

    “Freedom” is your choice between a Ford or Toyota.

    Concerning ourselves with biological tipping points will hurt that freedom.

    It takes billions of dollars, unparalleled political corruption, and public/private cooperation to maintain this level of ubiquitous self-censorship. A peaceful censorship that the Gestapo could only dream of.

  2. Anonymous
    August 8, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    The “Canary in the coalmine” is what’s been happening to the world’s amphibians and fish.

    Why don’t they know this?

  3. August 8, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    I miss the croaking of the frogs!!

  4. Anonymous
    August 9, 2011 at 5:58 am

    Gosh, this may be a surprise but I’m sick of Al Gore

  5. Chicken Little
    August 9, 2011 at 6:17 am

    It’s not that the trees are shrinking, it’s the sky that’s falling.

  6. Bolithio
    August 9, 2011 at 6:52 am

    If you want to freak out, remember that 99.9% of all species that have ever existed are extinct.

  7. Carla Baku
    August 9, 2011 at 10:08 am

    You might have a more admirable argument, Bolithio, if you considered the number of species that have gone extinct within given time frames. Life has flourished on the planet for billions of years; spreading all extinctions out over that span does not offer a useful measurement of what the impact to the planet has been in the past 150-200 years or so. Hiding egregious damage in epochs of time is a spurious stance.

  8. Anonymous
    August 9, 2011 at 11:04 am

    The human population has doubled in my lifetime from 3 billion to now 7 billion. It is expected to add another 2 billion by 2050. Too many fucking people. Or is it too many people fucking? More land set aside for farming, more water diverted for human use = more people. Global warming is changing the earth, but not as much as the root cause. Population growth. As Pogo said, “I have seen the enemy, and he is us”.

  9. Plain Jane
    August 9, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Well put, Carla and excellent point, Anonymous 11:04. Our “success” will cause our destruction.

  10. Anonymous
    August 9, 2011 at 11:41 am

    If you want to stay calm, remember that 99.9% of all species that have ever existed are extinct.

    Now I can return my head into the sand with confidence and harmony.

  11. Anonymous
    August 9, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    You’ll feel better once you give up all hope.

  12. Observer
    August 9, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    I haven’t seen a pourcupine in 15+ years (coastal or inland). They use to be everywhere… Anyone know what up with that?

  13. Anonymous
    August 9, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    A friend of mine was walking with her dog in the McKay tract and the dog unfortunately chased a porcupine and got some quills and a trip to the vet. Hope the porcupine is OK. There are so many species of wildlife losing there habitat to human expansion. We should all be concerned . Even if you are selfish enough not to care you probably value your children’s future, so for their sake you should be worried, being that we are the Apex species.

  14. Ponder z
    August 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    the hill folk ate them all.

  15. rex1223
    August 10, 2011 at 7:27 am

    Sustain the SAME forest, structurally it may change but Steve did NOT imply that the redwoods would disappear. Please don’t make grandiose assumptions

  16. Plain Jane
    August 10, 2011 at 7:42 am

    How tall can redwood trees grow with inadequate fog? Will they get larger in circumference like Sierra redwoods?

  17. Bolithio
    August 10, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Will they get larger in circumference like Sierra redwoods?

    No, the sierra redwoods are a different species. We have to remember that redwoods are millions of years old. They have experienced all manner of climate in that time, and their chromosomes remember. During periods of warming or lack of fog, say during the period of human extinction, their growing conditions may be less and optimum which will effect their height and growth rate. However their genes are unlikely to change and should be able to thrive if wetter conditions return.

  18. Anonymous
    August 10, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Good thing we mined most of them while they were still thriving.

  19. Random Guy
    August 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    “As long as “community media” serves its corporate masters by serving us human-interest voyeurism, few will know that they are living amid the 6th largest extinction event of life on Earth.

    “Freedom” is your choice between a Ford or Toyota.

    Concerning ourselves with biological tipping points will hurt that freedom.

    It takes billions of dollars, unparalleled political corruption, and public/private cooperation to maintain this level of ubiquitous self-censorship. A peaceful censorship that the Gestapo could only dream of.

    …worth repeating. Move along, move along…nothing to see here…everybody stay calm, you’ll die for one reason or another like everybody else, so just keep buying stuff and pretending everything’s okay. Your children are counting on you to be complacent…er…happy!!! Don’t unsettle the children! We need them to fall in line, too!

  20. Figs
    August 12, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Self-important boobs. I’m with Bolithio.

  21. Cripes
    August 12, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Right-wing traitors, I’m with Random Guy.

  22. August 13, 2011 at 1:07 am

    Does anyone remember al and tipper trying to censor Frankenchrist and other music? Supporters of censorship NEVER have your best interest in mind, only their profit.
    Carbon credits are a tax to offshore bankers who own your government and work against you.

  23. Bolithio
    August 13, 2011 at 8:48 am

    I love how I get pegged as right-wing here. LOL

    We are all with each other. Theres no where else for us to go!

  24. Anon
    August 14, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Many lucky ones bought local land and suck every drop of water and resource out of it…just like in the mountains surrounding L.A. 75 years ago.

    Now, WE’RE the ones scratching our heads wondering what’s happening to our paradise’s biodiversity.

  25. Farmer
    August 19, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Once again, Bolithio proves that evolution isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be…

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