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Times-Standard to limit free access

Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

The Humboldt Herald predicted way back in May 2009 that access to times-standard.com would soon require cash money.  Lo, friends, that day is (almost) here.

Once you max out your few free peeks per month, you will be asked to pay for further access.  However, North Coast Journal scribe Andrew Goff suggests a quick cookie dump will get you around the toll bridge.

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Lost Coast Outpost: INTRODUCING: The Times-Standard Paywall!

  1. August 15, 2011 at 2:38 pm
  2. Anonymous
    August 15, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Indeed Terry, it’s a scary thought that subscribing to a newspaper would lead to my house being foreclosed upon. Under what scenario do you see this happening?

  3. August 15, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Perhaps it’s better to be “anonymous” when banksters make stuff up, makes it trickier for them to forge documents or subscriptions to online newspapers. Thanks for the non-sequitur, all the more reason for staying “anonymous”.

  4. sexy85
    August 15, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    this is a stupid idea i read it more online

  5. August 15, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Seems to me their fee for online access is fair enough for current non- subscribers. The $2.00 extra for current subscribers is a bit of a surprise, though.

    They say current subscribers will pay $19.99 after this charge. I thought I was already paying something like $14.95 a month, so that doesn’t make sense. I notice today’s hard copy of the T-S says EZ pay customers ( I think that’s what we are as we have it charged to a credit card) pay $11.95 a month. Hmmm???

    So around $14.00 for both hard copy and online if you have it charged to your card? Not that bad in the end but still a fairly large percentage increase for current and, in our case, long time subscribers.

  6. Anonymous
    August 15, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    I haven’t seen a T-S worth a dime in a long time so I won’t be paying to read it. I’d rather keep paying my donations to alternative news sites and buying the NYT online. I can catch up on the local BS on the weeklies and blogs. If the T-S in desperation starts reporting important stories without bias due to advertisers’ demands, I might reconsider.

  7. Anonymous
    August 15, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    I’m having no trouble loading more than 5 news articles.

    NoScript. Cough. Cough.

  8. Dancing
    August 15, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    If the TS weren’t such a worthless, biased rag I would be willing to pay for it. I subscribe to the Chronicle and I regularly purchase the New York Times as well as subscribe to the NYT daily online services. Real content is worth paying for but the TS is only useful for the local obituaries and I’ll read them at the library every week for free until the newspaper folds.

  9. Anonymous
    August 15, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    There are a few good reporters. Some others are just seat warmers. They don’t keep a very rigorous schedule.

  10. August 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    If you dump your cookies to read more than the “free 5”, wouldn’t that be stealing?

  11. a non
    August 15, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    A few good reporters with muzzles ~ a biased rag it is. 6:29 and I agree.

    The tendrils that bind the TS, twisting it inward toward the good (g)old boy’s agenda will drag it down to dust. Worthless cyberdust.

  12. Anonymous
    August 15, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    I first started reading the Times-Standard in Sept 1968. It was a good paper then. I think Don O’Kane was the publisher then. Like Dancing noted, I basically only subscribe for the obituaries and the event listings.

    The Del Norte Triplicate is now 75cents and issue, soon to be published only three days a week instead of the present 5.

    The San Francisco Chronicle is another sorry newspaper that is long past its glory days. I subscribe essentially out of habit and to read Jon Carroll.

    It is nice to receive home delivery of the NY Times in Crescent City. It makes up for all of the above.

  13. Ponder z
    August 15, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    I wont pay for such fluff. Poor journalist style, and writing. I can get it here for free. Hows that H, you helped put the TS under.

  14. Anonymous
    August 15, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    It doesn’t matter how good or bad the paper is, really. They employ people, and if you want to read it and choose to read it, you can’t get it free. Do you expect to? Who is going to pay the employees? Do you want to read it and not pay. Make your choice. If you think it’s trash, why do you care. Don’t read OR subscribe. If you really want to read it, PAY.

  15. Harry Asse
    August 15, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Until the paper provides something that people value and are willing to pay for, it will contine the downward slide. Having a monopoly allows extortion pricing, only when people need your product. When there are alternatives like online blogs who actually get the scoop earlier, the traditional media model will shrivel. If the Sub-Standard lives down to it’s reputation and closes can we have the Eureka Reporter back for free?

  16. Anonymous
    August 15, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    If you dump your cookies to read more than the “free 5″, wouldn’t that be stealing?

    Legally? No. Look up the definition of theft.

  17. Mitch
    August 15, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    A pay wall? Does that mean the T-S will pay people for reading the paper now? Where did they get the money?

  18. August 16, 2011 at 7:10 am

    Just noticed the Ukiah Daily Journal (same company as the T-S) is doing the same thing.

  19. August 16, 2011 at 7:40 am

    theft
       
    noun
    1.
    the act of stealing; the wrongful taking and carrying away of the personal goods or property of another; larceny.
    2.
    an instance of this.
    3.
    Archaic . something stolen.

    Taking something of value without paying for it is stealing.
    Downloading songs, or movies without paying for them is stealing.
    If you do the “cookie dump” you are guilty of theft, you are a thief, whether you like it or not.

  20. August 16, 2011 at 7:41 am

    steal
       [steel] ,verb, stole, sto·len, steal·ing, noun
    verb (used with object)
    1.
    to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
    2.
    to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
    3.
    to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously, subtly, or by chance: He stole my girlfriend.
    4.
    to move, bring, convey, or put secretly or quietly; smuggle (usually followed by away, from, in, into, etc.): They stole the bicycle into the bedroom to surprise the child.
    5.
    Baseball . (of a base runner) to gain (a base) without the help of a walk or batted ball, as by running to it during the delivery of a pitch.

  21. Julie Timmons
    August 16, 2011 at 9:49 am

    Expecting current subscribers to pay extra for online access is outrageous. Even the New Yorker doesn’t do that.

  22. Anonymous
    August 16, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I am a current print subscriber and just tried to subscribe to web content (I agree with Julie – it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of this long-time subscriber to have to pay extra to view the paper online).

    MediaNews Group contracted out its online subscription services to another company and currently it is not working. When I try to subscribe, I get a message that says they are experiencing technical difficulties and to try again later.

    How like this company to launch a paywall and not have its customer service together.

  23. August 16, 2011 at 10:40 am

    I’m with Fred and Julie on this. To punish the few of us who are still subscribing to the print edition to also be able to get online access is absurd and counterproductive. Soon they’ll lose our business too and be even less relevant then they are now (if that’s even possible).

    To charge non-subscribers would be easier to justify, but I doubt it will be helpful in the long run. Google, Craigslist and many other dotcoms proved long ago that the key to online success is free and open access and that revenue streams will come from sources other then subscription or access fees.

  24. The Big Picture
    August 16, 2011 at 11:37 am

    “Taking something of value without paying for it is stealing”.

    If true, they’d have to close the Federal Reserve and start arresting 9 year old’s that catch fly-balls. The internet shares this tradition of free-access.

    The TS has been historically indifferent to the economic shock and awe faced daily by average citizens. This remains astoundingly true during the New Depression, but now it wants subscriber’s revenue back while remaining irrelevant!

    In 2010 the TS suddenly amended their editorial policy without public-notice to omit any letters that criticized political candidates. I had two editorials rejected and both were unemotional, factual accounts of public hearings and events, albeit, against the developer’s candidates.

    After subscribing for over 30 years, I have never renewed.

  25. Anonymous
    August 16, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Times Standard now is 75 cents on the street. Seems high for what you get.

  26. Anon
    August 16, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    A real community newspaper would be shouting the question of how “their” city tolerates a “mystery development” of any kind.

    Until the question is answered!

    Especially considering the current Depression and decay of our infrastructure.

  27. Not A Native
    August 16, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    The TS is what it is, I’ve no complaints about it. I’d say it serves a purpose, which isn’t investigative journalism. And its analysis/editorial is about as deep as its readership.

    But why isn’t paying nothing to take away a tree in the National Forest, catch a fish in the ocean, remove gold from the ground, collect gravel on the river bank stealing from the environment?

    Oh yeah, what you take from the environment is simply ‘up for grabs’ you can ‘steal’ only from humans. But if they stole what they claim is theirs, they can’t be robbed of it. By my accounting, taking or commandeering anything without providing for its replenishment is stealing.

  28. Rick Khamsi
    August 16, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Not a Native makes a profound point, which I note, I see today in the Humboldt Herald and not in my many decades of daily reading of the Times-Standard. (Don’t judge me, I had to get info any way I could).

    Publishing anything that might break the control of the ruling class around here is almost never done, and certainly not something we expect from the Times-Standard.

    The Times-Standard does have its uses, though, and it is greatly improved over the days (the early Reagan presidency years) when it regularly published letters from developers who sent in plainly racist and anti-Gay screeds. The only significant challenge to established power I know the T-S to have undertaken was its coverage by Matt Drange, a student intern associated with HSU, of the horrendous conditions at local nursing homes. Ironically, Matt Drange has moved on to what will no dooubt be a stellar career in investigative journalism, while the T-S may price itself out of the niche market it has established for itself over the last, what, 154 years.

  29. Rick Khamsi
    August 16, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Heraldo, I don’t like the Avatar that was just generated for me! Can we change it?

  30. Rick Khamsi
    August 16, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Do you also have a way for me to remove whiney posts like the one I sent you at 2:56 pm ?

  31. August 16, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Your avatar is based on your email. Sorry there is no preview option.

    Comments can be deleted if you send me an email. Be warned: results are not always immediate.

  32. Mitch
    August 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    But why isn’t paying nothing to take away a tree in the National Forest, catch a fish in the ocean, remove gold from the ground, collect gravel on the river bank stealing from the environment?

    Bravo NaN!

  33. Anonymous
    August 16, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    That’s where the god principle comes in handy. He gave it to us to use up and besides the apocalypse is coming any day now.

  34. SmokeMonster
    August 16, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    The TS charges more for the Sunday paper,mainly due to the “hot ads” and content.

    By this standard,the Monday edition should always be free,it is truly a waste of trees,delivery gas,etc..

  35. Jane Fish
    August 18, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    There are a few ways to approach the changing media situation and increase profits. One is to diversify and invest in new media angles and coverage and shift the business model. Another is to intensify and raise quality of coverage. The other is to force people to pay for a product they are used to getting for free.

    The first takes investment in both understanding the complexity of the community and hiring talent. The second requires hiring management talent and competent journalists savvy in new social media trends as well as traditional plus putting some dough into new equipment and technology. The third is a blend of the first two and require all of the above. The fourth is stupid (my thoughts) and hasn’t worked clearly for anyone in the industry–it is just shooting itself in the foot based on the idea there is no serious local competition for its format of daily news.

    None of the first three are going to happen in my opinion considering the ownership of the Times-Standard is running a business model where the the company makes a few dimes off owning and commercializing a lot of papers (the group doesn’t have a flagship). Investment and the savage decline of the paper news industry is high risk to investors and has to be done brilliantly to survive and needs a market much bigger than Humboldt most likely.

    I say sell it and let serious local ownership take it on before it tanks. Someone who’ll put the money in it up front to keep it from becoming an even older dinosaur than it already has become.

    At a minimum hire a web designer to put lipstick on the “pig” if you are going to put a price tag on its head for consumption.

  36. evinator
    August 23, 2011 at 10:29 am

    I buy the paper occasionally. I paid for one last week so I could get the $10 Kohls discount. Now that I am cut on-line I will look for my news elsewhere. The ‘Behind-the-Times,Sub-Standard’ has so many mispellings and bad grammer that it is hardly worth paying for. And when I want News, like the fire in Eureka last night, it’s not there. Oh well, thank goodness for you great bloggers and the Journal.

  37. Anonymous
    August 24, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Evinator? What you name “grammer” is actually spelled “grammar.” Maybe the T-S has better spelling than you think it does.

  38. Anonymous
    August 25, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Confirmation came today. The T-S charges 5.99 per month for access to its previously-free online news site, EVEN for people who pay yearly for access to their PAID online news! :(

  39. The Big Picture
    August 27, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Wow, I can gain $140 a year by canceling my subscription AND visit a beautiful library once a week to scan the paper.

    A win-win!

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