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Psssst.  Hey, Casanova.  It has come to our attention that you need a few pointers on how to keep your “secret” encounters secret.

Moving your play dates outside the office is a good first step.  You’re a fast learner.

But on Wednesday afternoon, when you had that, shall we say, meeting in a red SUV tucked in the hidden reaches of a dead end street at Cooper Gulch? Way too obvious.  Even that semi-secluded nook has witnesses.

Your truck, which you parked a couple blocks away, is too recognizable. Not to mention your own fine self — people know your mug.  Hurrying along while looking over your shoulder like a nervous dude on a secret mission only attracts attention.

Your lunchtime rendezvous lasted about 40 minutes.  You were seen both coming and going — let’s make that leaving and arriving. You departed the scene a little after 2pm. Your, uh, colleague, the lady in the red SUV, drove away two minutes later.

The point is this: if you want to keep these matters on the down low you might consider an actually private spot further outside city limits. Unless you get a thrill in the risk of being seen.  In which case you should feel breathlessly busted.

  1. Ick
    September 4, 2011 at 7:14 am

    Stalking people is icky. How dull your own lives must be.

  2. Blackcoffee
    September 4, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Could this be more like pinning the tail on the hypocrite?

  3. Plain Jane
    September 4, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Don’t know why anyone would assume there was any stalking involved. Well known people who have illicit rendezvous in public places are begging for scandal. Don’t blame the people who see them.

  4. Dave
    September 4, 2011 at 7:40 am

    The question is what well known person? I don’t see the purpose in hinting some public figure was being bad…and leaving it at that.

    If it even happened.Pardon my skeptism, but when you have news like that what revelance is it to your readers?

    Frankly I’m surprised you wasted your time with this tidbit.

  5. Decline To State
    September 4, 2011 at 7:59 am

    OMG! Tyson’s not hitting on the new city attorney already is he? Come on, Owsley’s back.
    Christ, bring on the lawsuits.

  6. Plain Jane
    September 4, 2011 at 8:01 am

    It was probably to let the guilty parties know they were seen, Dave. There’s no doubt a lot of people already know who they are, but if I was a public employee who drove a red SUV, I’d be trading it in this weekend – out of town.

  7. September 4, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Still, naming names would be enjoyable to read…

  8. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 8:19 am

    I know. Totally, right? Like, she said at lunch that he was, like, totally creeping her out. She’s just like totally jealous and stuff ya know. She should just keep her big fat mouth shut ya know? Or like someone is gonna like totally shut it up for her. That is just hella poor form.

    What, no graphic H?

  9. Mitch
    September 4, 2011 at 8:19 am

    OK, Heraldo, a few questions.

    1) What’s the point?

    2) Why is this different than someone with a personal vendetta outing a neighbor having an affair?

    3) If you’re so convinced you want to publicize this, why did you leave the names out? Legal reasons?

    4) If it would be legally dangerous with the names, what makes you think that it’s a legitimate thing to do?

  10. Ben
    September 4, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Silly post!

  11. anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Mitch, the point is: if this happened, it shows a huge lack of ethics in his/her personal life and does this lack of ethics carry over into his/her professional life? If this is a public official those decisions effect tens of thousands of us.

  12. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 9:17 am

    This entire site lacks “ethics”.

  13. Goldie
    September 4, 2011 at 9:28 am

    This entire site is simply a site. We are free to ignore it or not but city officials make decisions that influence our funds, our lives and our future. What sort of folks make those decisions and what level of ethics they practice should be common knowledge as it effects the commons.

  14. Suzy Q
    September 4, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Everyone knows this is Dave’s MO, but what self respecting woman would be hooking up with him!? Poor Patti, she been put through so much already, (Jill, Lisa, Virginia, Jane doe’s one through 20) is this the last straw? Good thing the City got a new Attorney, they’re going to need her.

  15. Not A Native
    September 4, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Think there’s a general negative reaction to this posting. The conundrum for progressives(liberals) is retaining their transparent, honest, and equitable values in an adversarial environment that often rewards deceit, greed, prejudice and abuse of power.

    Obviously, its not purely black and white, finding an appropriate strategy is the tough challenge. IMO, this posting goes too far into the dark side.

  16. Bolithio
    September 4, 2011 at 9:43 am

    I could care less what people eat for lunch.

  17. Plain Jane
    September 4, 2011 at 10:00 am

    That’s hilarious on several levels, Bolithio.

    But why do people say they could care less when what they really mean is they don’t care at all?

  18. tra
    September 4, 2011 at 10:07 am

    I think the original phrase was “I couldn’t care less…” and for some reason it got shortened into “I could care less” — even though a literal interpretation of the truncated phrase means exactly the opposite of the original. Language can be a funny thing that way.

  19. Ed
    September 4, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Just as sleepy Humboldt settles into a long weekend and damned! Provoked again!

  20. September 4, 2011 at 10:19 am

    anonymous 9:00,

    I don’t see any allegation of a crime here, just gossip, and unsupported gossip at that. The post is wrong. Heraldo should remove it and apologize.

    That’s it from me.

  21. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 10:28 am

    I feel dirty after reading this article. It’s like somebody leaves a used condom on the sidewalk and HH waves it around and says hey look what I found!

  22. SNaFU
    September 4, 2011 at 10:28 am

    If it wasn’t for political scandals, sex, rumors, accusations & bad news … there would be no news!

  23. Bolithio
    September 4, 2011 at 10:34 am

    The reality is some people suck at grammar. But as long as you can convey meaning, it works! Isn’t English rad?!

  24. walter winchell
    September 4, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Hey, this is a gossip column much of the time. So expect gossip!

  25. pattycakes
    September 4, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Dave Dave Dave. Will you never learn? Wasn’t it enough that you had to pay out big bucks in the tawdry Hansen affair and the unjustified firing of the chief?
    If I were the city council I’d put you on a very short leash, or toss your ass. (Course the city council has their owns sins to hide, don’t they, Frank?)
    And If I were Patty I’d get you neutered, make you retire and then keep a shock collar on you. I hope this lady doesn’t have a partner inclined to come into your office and throw coffee at you. Oh wait, I heard there is a known license plate, I guess we can find out.

  26. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 11:21 am

    an old internet favorite goes,”pix, or it didn’t happen”

  27. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Tysons philandering is the stuff of legends. He fired the police chief for having the audacity to report witnessing an Incident and will not hesitate to extract his vengeance upon any other city employee who does not look the other way or quit. How much longer and how many more hundreds of thousands of dollars is the city willing to spend on this unconscionable behavior?

  28. empires end
    September 4, 2011 at 11:44 am

    hilarious!!!!

    first the tattling tone of the post;
    the delicious thought of whoever they are catching wind of this and having their lives thrown into some level of chaos or other through their own animal lusts (we can all guess/infer/deduce the identities of the alleged miscreants but it almost doesn’t matter);
    the wheels of political damage control grinding into their BS churning functions;
    it is all too much as the two-legged meat puppets play out their silly dances of pretension and hypocrisy.
    Bring on the elephants and jugglers… the clowns have the center ring.

    And I want to convey my deep personal thanks to all of you who make this mad magazine version of peyton place so profoundly entertaining. Carry on and please don’t ever stop. You bring light, life and color to our dreary existences.

    As our corporate mind control masters at AmEx would quip: “PRICELESS!”

  29. September 4, 2011 at 11:53 am

    OK! I did stick that note to your windshield Heraldo, and yes you and Plain Jane need to be more discreet. However, why would you re-post this on your blog?

    …but seriously, it is kind of fun and sad when you discover an affair. Sometimes you happen to be at the right place at the right time (or wrong place, etc.)

  30. jr
    September 4, 2011 at 11:54 am

    I think you mean Mastercard. But the AmEx slogan is more appropriate: “Don’t leave home without it.”

  31. Plain Jane
    September 4, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    I don’t drive a red SUV! Is Heraldo cheating on me????? :D

  32. anon
    September 4, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    BBQ at the Tysons on Labor Day. Guess what Patty is gonna put on the grill?

  33. High Finance
    September 4, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    Heraldo has sunk much lower than this before.

    You should all know by now that Heraldo and the truth are not synonymous. By leaving out the names he protects himself from being caught in another lie.

  34. Raymond Burr's Legs
    September 4, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Tapperass said, “but seriously, it is kind of fun and sad when you discover an affair. Sometimes you happen to be at the right place at the right time (or wrong place, etc.)”

    Or you happen to be going about your life in your own home when public faces pull shenanigans practically in your front yard.

    As for the “stalking” suggestion…now that’s funny. Stalking implies pursuit. If the person in question blunders into view, that isn’t stalking. If he chooses to act weirdly suspicious in public, the public just might notice–ya think? If I decide to change my clothes in the town square, I can’t get pissed off if someone points out the holes in my underwear.

    Of course there could be some innocent explanation. Maybe there just wasn’t ANYWHERE ELSE to take a meeting that day.

  35. anon
    September 4, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Sunk low, that’s pretty funny in light of the fact that it appears Tyson and some of his minions RESIDE there.

  36. anon
    September 4, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Tyson can’t take ‘lunch’ meetings in his office anymore since he was outed. What’s a lowlife to do

  37. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    Will someone out there please give some initials if not names. Just a hint please.

  38. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Hey Anon 10:28…the best part of Heraldo is still in that condom!

  39. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    There is a license number of the red SUV. Let’s have it so we can let Patti Tyson know who her competition is today.

  40. September 4, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Pitty PITTY=== PETTY We expect BETTER!!!!

  41. September 4, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    If a post like this was made on the Humboldt Mirror and directed towards someone in the “progressive’s” favor- Larry Glass, for instance- those on this list having fun right now would be outraged. They’d be crying foul and that humbug shouldn’t be getting involved in people’s personal business.

    But, since the insinuation is about one of the other side, it’s ok. I see it all the time.

  42. Ed
    September 4, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    “I see it all the time” Exactly. Only it’s about Larry saving a woman in the bay. Or calling someone on their toxic scheme. Why, he behaves just like a guy sneaking around with another woman. I cry foul sir, foul I say!

  43. Goldie
    September 4, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    If Captain Crunch was a cereal cheater, a soggy womanizer, would this reflect on his morals, decisions and his trust with the constituents if he was, say, the city manager of a small town? The art of cheating can contain such activities as sneaking, lying, and breaking promises. Wonderful qualities. Would you want to see what these qualities look like when reflected in the Post Toasty City budget or the spending of Measure Honey Nut O funds?

  44. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    The difference here is that there is concrete evidence ( an accurate vehicle description and license number), noto to mention a long and storied history of similar behavior (a former eureka now arcata employee, a current eureka employee, a local realtor, a rebuff by a dispatcher that cost the city humdreds if thousands of dollars, a current elected official. The List goes on. Get a clue, people.

  45. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Hey Pam, how bout all the noontime ‘snacks’ you kidded about which were really rendevous with the local realtor? You know what the boss was up to, not to mention the incident in the office where he got caught red handed with a former personnel employee.

  46. jr
    September 4, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    Using a cereal analogy misses the mark. I prefer a coffee analogy for Eureka–it’s “chock full of nuts.”

  47. Raymond Burr's Legs
    September 4, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Fred says: “If a post like this was made on the Humboldt Mirror and directed towards someone in the “progressive’s” favor- Larry Glass, for instance- those on this list having fun right now would be outraged.”

    Say, Fred, where in the original post does Heraldo mention which side of the political spectrum the naughty boy hailed from??

  48. suzy blah blah
    September 4, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Snap n Crackle got popped.

  49. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Really good journalism. PJ, keep fighting the good battle and outing people you don’t like based on their personal affairs. This is definitely the strategy progressives should adopt in order to convince others of our righteous cause.

  50. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    This only seems fair if the former the former police chief is fired because of jealousy and lies from a few petty employees in the dept. and city hall. Are we now to look the other way when the accusers and liars do what they have accused others for? Tit for tat.

  51. September 4, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Just my two cents, but this post was over the top.

  52. Plain Jane
    September 4, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Who did I out? I don’t even know who this is about!

  53. September 4, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Only it’s about Larry saving a woman in the bay. Or calling someone on their toxic scheme. Why, he behaves just like a guy sneaking around with another woman. I cry foul sir, foul I say!.

    See? That’s what this is all about. Dump dirt on them, not us.

    If I saw Larry doing something not quite right, or made it up, many of you would be outraged. But I wouldn’t. I’d keep such things to myself if I was actually privy to it and I wouldn’t fabricate something like this just to make political capital. Obviously some of the Glass crowd isn’t of the same mind.

  54. September 4, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Ok Heraldo you got me . Now stop all this creepy stalkerish stuff.

  55. September 4, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Heraldo must have eyes just about everywhere,
    I would have taken pictures…

  56. Anonymous
    September 4, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Hey, didn’t Richard Marks pull some bulls*&t like this a while back? How was that received here at the HH?

  57. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 12:49 am

    By the way, your precious proggie God Linda Atkins live right in the Cooper Gulch area near the skate park. I’m just saying, is it her? Don’t believe me? Look it up or ask her. It’s public record.

  58. enough already
    September 5, 2011 at 7:18 am

    This blog has gone sooooooooooooo downhill. Maybe you should transfer to print media so we can put you next to the National Enquirer at the market.

  59. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Yup, pretty slimey

  60. September 5, 2011 at 9:18 am

    If anyone is sooooo upset with Heraldo, just click http://www.rexxfield.com/ and they will out them for $5,000. Or let them just keep poisening our local populace with slander like this.
    Where is the positive progressive message in this?

  61. Suzy Q
    September 5, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Richard you idiot, you can’t slander someone with the truth.

  62. September 5, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Suzy Q: And you are even lower than the idiot. I have identified myself. Who are you? Spineless.

  63. Plain Jane
    September 5, 2011 at 10:02 am

    You can’t slander someone without naming them either. People guessing at the identity isn’t slander. I’m generally not in favor of outings, but when people in positions of trust put the community’s economic health in jeopardy with their misbehavior, especially if it is serial misbehavior which has already cost hundreds of thousands of dollars with the perpetrator getting off Scott-free, it’s a different matter.

  64. Plain Jane
    September 5, 2011 at 10:03 am

    And yet Suzy Q, using a pseudonym, spoke the truth and you, using your real name, only insulted. A post can be judged on its merits regardless of who wrote it.

  65. anony
    September 5, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Dave Tyson doesn’t drive a red SUV. Just sayin’

  66. Ed
    September 5, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Pssst, softball, she may only be a Creedence song title, but she’s correct.

  67. Plain Jane
    September 5, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Read it again Anony. It said the man in question was driving a truck and the woman he met was driving a red SUV. Just sayin’.

  68. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Tyson drives a silver full sized diesel pickup. Just look for the trucker mudflaps and calvin pissing into the bay.

  69. High Finance
    September 5, 2011 at 11:34 am

    You guys make even the Mirror look good.

    Congrats on participating in this slime.

  70. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Geraldo and the Times-Standard continue their submarine race, a dive to the bottom. Dive! Dive!

  71. Plain Jane
    September 5, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    The Mirror never rises out of the slime so nothing could make them look good. What should a blogger devoted to provoking Humboldt County do when provided information from a trusted source about the scandalous and possibly very costly misbehavior of public officials?

  72. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Who is the woman in the red SUV?

  73. anon
    September 5, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    thats what mrs tyson wants to know

  74. TMI
    September 5, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    I’ve obviously awoken in the 18th century. Your violation of ethics is based on the salacious assumption of what occurs between a man and woman when alone. Taking a few observations, adding in your assumptions and more details, and branding with a conclusion. Public figures or not a person has a humane right, if not legal right, to their private life unless it poses a national security risk. Most sensible adults in the 20th century have moved passed the Talibanesque approach to relationships and politics.

    I’m out. Never liked gossip mills much.

  75. Plain Jane
    September 5, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    You don’t care about community economic risk, TMI?

  76. anon
    September 5, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Tyson burned the city once already with the Hansen payout. What the man does to or with other employees on the city’s dime is rather relevant I’d say.

  77. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    The formatting on your post is really odd, anon. You didnt happen to post using an ipad did you?

    I’ve been thinking of getting one, but its glitches like this that have me thinking twice.

    Does anyone else see this weird formatting?

  78. Plain Jane
    September 5, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Looks fine to me.

  79. Ed
    September 5, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    I think the interesting point to this thread is the fact that so many make the same assumptions about a public person even when he is not identified. It brings out the prevailing attitude in the community when even his defenders recognize the identity of the mystery man.

  80. TMI
    September 5, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Tried and convicted in the court of public opinion with a minority present. The best Humboldt has to offer?

  81. Ed
    September 5, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    The public’s opinion is based on more than conjecture. There is a history here, and it includes some pretty damning evidence given to the grand jury as well as other venues regarding the behavior of old what’s his name.

  82. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    So, Linda Atkins saw all this from her home in Coopers Gulch?

  83. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Rob Arkley is having a back alley affair with Bonnie Neeley?

    sing it

    Rob and Bonnie sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G, first comes love then comes disparage, then comes Marky in a baby carriage……

  84. September 5, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    It brings out the prevailing attitude in the community…..

    No. It brings out the prevailing attitudes of people who frequent this blog. That’s not the same as the community at- large. If the attitudes of the majority of people here reflected that of most people, Larry Glass would have handily kept his seat on the city council.

    As far as the others here, it doesn’t take much to figure out where the finger is being pointed. This blog has been been centered on going after the city manager and 4 of the 5 current members of the city council since at least the day after the last election, if not much longer.

  85. September 5, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    …going after the city manager and 4 of the 5 current members...

    Ooops! And Rob Arkley for even longer.

  86. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    She did probably see all of this happen lol

  87. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    And if it wasn’t the city manager Fred?

  88. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    anon 3:45..hooking Bonnie Neely up with anybody is pretty disgusting.

  89. Reality Check
    September 5, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Hey Fred, why don’t you try to not be such a fucking hypocrite. You admittedly spend more time on these blogs than anyone, and yet you condemn folks for having opinions. This town is crazy corrupt right now, and it just so happens that I am fucking sick of the corruption. I speak for me, and not for anyone else on this blog-so when our city manager is out fucking another, yes, another person other than his wife, it just highlights that he believes he is untouchable, and that’s it. If you are so fiscally conservative, then why aren’t you concerned about measure O funds, why aren’t you concerned that Dave is proposing a $55,000 curtain for the muni, $22,000 in new carpeting and $150,000 paint job for the adorni center, why do you not give a shit that our city manager is going to leverage over one million dollars to continue a redevelopment agency that only supplies free parking lots to assholes like the Arkley’s. This town is getting more corrupt everyday and some of us fucking care Fred!

  90. September 5, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    …and yet you condemn folks for having opinions..

    Where have I condemned folks for having opinions? I’ve simply suggested that the majority of opinions voiced on this blog- the anti- Arkley/ council majority crowd- don’t match those of the majority of people in Eureka.

    Your points about expenditures at the Adorni Center are well taken, but I can’t help but think you’re one of those that think the City of Eureka should have spent millions to buy the old Jefferson School.

  91. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    We are all in serious danger when the city manager believes he can act with impunity, and yet we have allowed him to do so for years. When he gets caught Eurekans don’t seem to mind that he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars of their tax money to settle cases. They don’t mind that he operates a corrupt redevelopment agency and surrounds himself with “yes” men in city hall and on the council. Anyone who crosses him pays dearly. Of course he learned from the master and does his bidding. The last election was bought by his allies and he believes he is untouchable. Power corrupts and absolute power power corrupts absolutely. David Doesn’t have to worry about morals when this community refuses to hold him accountable.

  92. jr
    September 5, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Sort of makes one long for the good old days of David Tooley.

  93. Goldie
    September 5, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    8:26 has hit the nail on the head. This is the importance of this post.

  94. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    8:26 your so full of shit!

  95. Anonymous
    September 5, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    8:26 has hit the nail on the head. 9:31 is stupid.

  96. Anonymous
    September 6, 2011 at 6:24 am

    Reality Check @ 5:15

    Why do you think it’s out of line for the City to maintain it’s investments? The Adorni Building is 20 years old, it does need a paint job. By the way the numbers you are citing are just a budget estimate, the real price may be different.

    The rest of this comment is just b.s.

  97. anon
    September 6, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Let’s just hope the lady in the red SUV isn’t a city employee that will cost the city more money down the road ala Hansen. Let’s hope Patty is the only one that has to worry, yet again, about who the other woman is and whether she needs to go see her doc for a few tests, yet again.

  98. SmokeMonster
    September 6, 2011 at 10:33 am

    I call BULLSHIT, why didn’t the observer walk up to the SUV with cell phone in hand taking pictures or video recording?

    Scared? Would have been better than this cowardly insinuating

  99. tra
    September 6, 2011 at 11:13 am

    This post definitely fits the description of “insinuating” and I would add, salacious. And just plain gossipy.

    I hate to say it, but it reminds me a little bit of the tone of the thankfully-defunct “Above the Law” blog. Ick.

  100. Blackcoffee
    September 6, 2011 at 11:23 am

    I agree with the 8:26 pm post above.

  101. High Finance
    September 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Heraldo is laughing his head off at you fools.

    No facts, no proof and no substance. Just another excuse for the crazies and sickos here to go after David Tyson.

    Grownups criticise those they disagree with on substantive issues. They attack the other person’s stand on the issues.

    Immature children post nasty personal attacks on personal issue rumors.

  102. Anonymous
    September 6, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    If he was just smoking a joint with the woman in the red SUV well then I guess it’s OK? Funny how he looked over his shoulder like he was guilty. Oh wait, others get busted for that same thing.

  103. Anonymous
    September 6, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    As long as you are the arbiter of civility HiFi, perhaps you could simply ask Dave if the post is accurate. That way he can deny it and clear all this up.

  104. Plain Jane
    September 6, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    The SUV meeting was probably so he could beg her to stop sexually harassing him.

  105. anonymous
    September 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Doesn’t Larry Glass’ squeeze drive a red SUV?

  106. Anonymous
    September 6, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    No. He drives a small old 80s or early blue 2 door Honda Civic. I rode around in his car during his run for office.

  107. anonymous
    September 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    his squeeze

  108. Anonymous
    September 6, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    fred mangels is no authority on any subject

  109. Anonymous
    September 7, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Tyson was looking pretty doleful at the meeting last night. Like he lost his best friend. I wonder which best friend it was?

  110. Anonymous
    September 7, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    He often wears that old pity poor me look. It must work he is still there.

  111. Anonymous
    September 7, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    And this is different from the Above the Law blog how, exactly?

  112. Eric Kirk
    September 8, 2011 at 12:32 am

    Mitch, the point is: if this happened, it shows a huge lack of ethics in his/her personal life and does this lack of ethics carry over into his/her professional life? If this is a public official those decisions effect tens of thousands of us.

    If he (or she) was a public official. For all we know it’s the captain of a bowling team.

  113. Eric Kirk
    September 8, 2011 at 12:32 am

    Heraldo has sunk much lower than this before.

    You should all know by now that Heraldo and the truth are not synonymous. By leaving out the names he protects himself from being caught in another lie.

    Ummm. What would be the point of lying?

  114. Eric Kirk
    September 8, 2011 at 12:37 am

    If a post like this was made on the Humboldt Mirror and directed towards someone in the “progressive’s” favor- Larry Glass, for instance- those on this list having fun right now would be outraged. They’d be crying foul and that humbug shouldn’t be getting involved in people’s personal business.

    But, since the insinuation is about one of the other side, it’s ok. I see it all the time.

    How would we know it was about Larry Glass? How do you know that this post isn’t about Larry Glass? For that matter, how do I know it isn’t about you, Fred? Don’t you drive a red SUV?

    I have to admit, I’ll probably be looking at red SUV’s in Eureka a little differently for awhile.

  115. Load Me Another
    September 8, 2011 at 8:32 am

    I don’t think Jeff Leonard had this activity in mind with his vision of the skatepark. In essence, it’s now become part of the city manager’s extended playground. Dave might as well just go with the smoking jacket and pipe at city hall. Skate and Destroy, Dave!

  116. Eric Kirk
    September 8, 2011 at 9:51 am

    You know, as I was driving to work this morning, it occurred to me – this guy had an affair in a car? Is he a teenager? Did they buy burgers at a drive-in and head up to “Make Out Point?”

  117. High Finance
    September 8, 2011 at 10:36 am

    So Eric, you’re saying that it just doesn’t sound reasonable to you too ?

    Be careful, voices of reason are not welcomed here !

  118. tra
    September 8, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Of course there’s no actual evidence that the subjects of this post were “having an affair,” or for that matter doing anything else inappropriate.

    All we have is an anonymous report that two people (who are not identified but whose identities are hinted at) spent 40 minutes together in a car at lunchtime.

    Beyond that it’s just a lot of sleazoidal insinuation aimed at generating a bunch of salacious speculation about what the unnamed people were doing in the car at lunchtime.

    And judging by many of the comments in this thread, the post succeeded in accomplishing what it’s author apparently intended — to utilize the predictable response of anonymous commenters to identify and smear the intended target with the desired allegations of infidelity.

    In crafting the smear so carefully (not directly naming names, but providing clear hints that will encourage the anonymous commenters to identify the target), the anonymous author demonstrates their proficiency in the Dark Art of political mudslinging.

    So, my congratulations on your mudslinging skills…and my condolences for your lack of ethics.

  119. anon
    September 8, 2011 at 11:18 am

    That the allegations relative to David and his adventures with the opposite sex have merit is really not even questionable. David’s friends all know it’s true, so does his wife, Murl knew it, the previous chief knew it was true, Rex Bohn knows it’s true, Pam the previous assistant knows it’s true as do most of the city hall and PD exployees. He has a long and sordid history, some of which came out in the Hansen depo (more would have come out in a trial, no doubt, thus the settlement).
    So save your chastising about mudslinging and use your energy to come to terms with the fact that this city manager pretty much runs the show, and will do what and who he wants when he wants, as it has been for the last decade.

  120. anon
    September 8, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Eric, yes he is a teenager, mentally, in many ways. He’s doing the cheerleader under the bleachers and then going home to get tutored by his b-list geeky girlfriend.

  121. Eric Kirk
    September 8, 2011 at 11:34 am

    (Sigh). I guess the pretense is over. I will confess. It was me. I was having an affair. With Morgan Fairchild. Whom I’ve seen naked. More than once.

    Yeah, that’s the ticket!

  122. Load Me Another
    September 8, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Anon 11:18AM is spot on. This particular saga so well known it’s sickening. The track record speaks for itself- despicable. Worse yet, there are innocent victims in their wake. Question is: at what point does the City Mgr’s integrity get on the political hot plate so blatantly much that the council has no choice but to do something. At what point will the council understand that he is such a liability to the city that they have to do something? How many lawsuits and settlements will it take before All citizens become a collective angry mob and force the council’s hand? What (or whom) does a guy have to do to get fired? If I’m Big Wave Dave, I’m trembling come time for open mike at the next city council meeting.

  123. tra
    September 8, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    11:18,

    No evidence has been offered that anything inappropriate actually took place during the lunchtime meeting described by the anonymous author of this post. Yet the alleged incident is described in such an insinuating way as to imply wrongdoing, specifically infidelity and an inappropriate workplace relationship.

    As far as what supposedly “everyone knows” around City Hall, I’m not around City Hall, so I can’t comment on that other than to say that from the outside, it just looks like gossip — maybe true, maybe not true, but unproven, and not really any of my business one way or the other.

  124. Anonymous
    September 8, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    anon sounds alot like a disaffected former employee. This quote in particular

    “That the allegations relative to David and his adventures with the opposite sex have merit is really not even questionable. David’s friends all know it’s true, so does his wife, Murl knew it, the previous chief knew it was true, Rex Bohn knows it’s true, Pam the previous assistant knows it’s true as do most of the city hall and PD exployees.”

    Is really illuminating. The sad thing is, these are the exact same kind of crummy things said on the sleazy above the law blog about GN.

    Wouldnt it be funny if anon WAS GN?

  125. insider
    September 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Everything Anon 11:18 & 11:21 is true and well known here at City Hall.

  126. Eric Kirk
    September 8, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Whatever is “well known,” I do agree that if you’re going to be pointing fingers at someone in particular, you ought to put your name to the accusation. And that’s assuming that a theoretical affair which is not on work site is anybody’s business anyway (outside of those involved and their families). The original post was kind of amusing because it didn’t name anybody. But in my opinion, posters should refrain from actually posting names if they are going to remain anonymous, and actually, even if they are not. At minimum put a name to your accusations.

    To the extent that the thread has evolved to attack an individual, I think it’s extremely inappropriate. Even if the allegations were true. And especially if they are not, or mere speculation.

    Just my opinion, for what it’s worth.

  127. tra
    September 8, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Even if that was true, “insider,” it would not justify the nature of the original post at the top of this page. It’s still a sleazy smear, not to mention a creepy invasion of privacy.

  128. Load Me Another
    September 8, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Ya, and the Secret Service and White House staff knew nothing about Monica Lewinsky before it leaked…Mmm hmm…Buckle up, this one won”t go away very quickly. The city’s integrity is becoming very fragile.

  129. tra
    September 8, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    I basically agree with everything you said at 1:11, Eric, except that I didn’t find the original post “amusing,” in the first place, because it seemed pretty clear to me that it was intended precisely to “evolve into an attack on an individual.”

    In my opinion, Heraldo undercuts his credibility when he stoops to this kind of stuff. But it’s his blog, and so it’s his prerogative to decide whether to operate at that level or not. I just hope that at least the ugly personal smears remain a fairly rare exception among plenty of more productive and informative posts.

  130. anon
    September 8, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    oh I get it, some of you actually believe Tyson could have been taking a meeting or conducting city business out there in the as-yet-unknown female’s truck. wow.

  131. tra
    September 8, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Or just having lunch with a friend. But either way, I don’t see how it’s any of our business.

  132. Eric Kirk
    September 8, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    I basically agree with everything you said at 1:11, Eric, except that I didn’t find the original post “amusing,” in the first place, because it seemed pretty clear to me that it was intended precisely to “evolve into an attack on an individual.”

    Meh. That seems a stretch.

  133. tra
    September 8, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Really? Do you think Heraldo was surprised to see that commenters immediately named Tyson and that the comment thread quickly “evolved” in to an attack on Tyson?

    That rates right up there with “I’m shocked, shocked to find out there was gambling going on in this establishment.”

  134. anon
    September 9, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    A leopard doesn’t change his spots ( or the city manager apparently), so go ahead and say it’s no one’s business… until it costs the city money again.

  135. In Person
    September 9, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Hey what about “the lady in red” who met him there? She’s one of the top politicos around here, favors tight skirts and gets turned on by “dangerous situations.”

    Yes.

  136. Plain Jane
    September 9, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Does Patty Berg drive a red SUV? ;-p

  137. Anonymous
    September 9, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    I was at Mid City Motorworld today and there was a line of women trading in their red suv’s. The stigma has begun.

  138. anon
    September 9, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    Top politico…hmm… what does the ex CAO of the county drive?

  139. Anonymous
    September 9, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Doesn’t Loretta Nickolaus drive a red SUV?

  140. Load Me Another
    September 9, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Hmmmm….I’ll venture to guess it was a “full size” red SUV, as is probably the preference of Daves debutanes. Why sell yourself…short??

  141. Mr. Nice
    September 9, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Maybe it was a dude in a wig.

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