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Occupy Wall Street movement coming to HSU

Protestors acting in solidarity with their compatriots in New York will occupy the quad at Humboldt State University for 24 hours this weekend.

Participants are asked to bring tents, sleeping bags and musical instruments to the quad at 3:00 Saturday afternoon.

More information here.

There’s a lot of footage of cops behaving badly in New York, abusing non-violent activists and journalists.  This one is getting lots of attention.  NYPD Deputy Inspector Anthony “Tony” Bologna is such a bad ass that he pepper sprayed a small group of unarmed women already corralled behind temporary police orange fencing. NYPD says they are investigating the incident.


  1. Farmer
    September 30, 2011 at 9:30 am

    I just saw that video yesterday and it’s pretty disturbing. I guess it’s that guys job to serve and protect Wall Street. Must be taking cues from Obama.

  2. Plain Jane
    September 30, 2011 at 9:40 am

    “Inspector Bologna was identified on Wednesday in another video spraying others in the Occupy Wall Street demonstration with pepper spray. Recordings of the episodes show Inspector Bologna striding through a chaotic street scene along East 12th Street, where officers arrested some protesters and corralled others behind orange mesh netting.”


  3. Plain Jane
    September 30, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Here is footage which clearly shows peaceful protesters being grabbed and dragged out of the crowd and even from behind police barricades, seemingly at random, to be arrested.


  4. longwind
    September 30, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Chris Hedges is the ex-New York Times reporter who went over to the good guys. Here’s his latest on the occupations:


  5. skippy
    September 30, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Another link? This one’s local.

    Charles Douglas of the local Humboldt Sentinel blog has more information on Saturday’s protest– organized in part by business owner and HSU advocate/journalist Travis Turner– in his article, “‘Occupy Wall Street’ Comes to Humboldt” for interested readers.

  6. Anonymous
    September 30, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Officer Tony Bologna: Willingness to serve corporate interests, check. Enthusiasm for dousing peaceful protesters with pepper spray, check. So if he’s cool with shooting the mentally ill, beating unarmed suspects within an inch of their lives and then leaving them in their cells to die (and so on), it looks like he ought to have a solid shot at getting a job in one of our local law enforcement agencies. I hear Eureka’s looking for a new Police Chief.

  7. Jr
    September 30, 2011 at 11:30 am

    How come I have not seen any articles about Occupy Wall Street in the Times Standard, SF Chronicle or even the NY Times? (I ask this rhetorically.) This is a watershed moment, in the manner that Mario Salvio’s speech from the roof of a patrol car at UC Berkeley was in 1964. He said something like “there comes a time when the actions of the State become so odious that one must place their hands on the gears of the State to make it stop.” Perhaps someone has the actual quote.

  8. High Finance
    September 30, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Be wary of videos that are 1.36 minutes long as they are infamous for taking things out of context.

    It is a pathetic demonstration by about 80 people with nothing better to do.

  9. Plain Jane
  10. WhatNow
    September 30, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    On September 30, 2011 at 11:51 am
    High Finance says:
    “Be wary of videos that are 1.36 minutes long as they are infamous for taking things out of context.”

    “It is a pathetic demonstration by about 80 people with nothing better to do.”
    Spoken like a true blue parasite.

    Take your booze goggles off as soon as you get you head out of your ass,HighlyFried.

    The obsession with ever growing markets regardless of the social or human costs is a philosophy that would make the cancer cell proud.

    This has been a REAL long time coming and only the smug arrogance of asshats like you is holding that rickety mess from bullshit avenue together.

    Pharoah was a rich job creator but it seems that even YWYH preferred the community organizer.

  11. walt
    September 30, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Jr: It’s Savio: “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can’t take part. You can’t even passively take part. And you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all.” Sproul Hall Steps, December 2, 1964

    I didn’t get there until 1970, but his voice was still echoing.

  12. Plain Jane
    September 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    ‘Occupy Wall Street’ only growing stronger
    By James Downie


    Protests are starting all over the country and are already happening in most major cities. Arcata, Eugene and Portland as well as hundreds of other towns all across the country are protesting tomorrow. Airline pilots and transit workers are joining as well as other unions and organizations, regular people of all ages and political leanings, finally realizing that they have to start fighting back against the oligarchy amassing wealth and power.

  13. Anonymous
    September 30, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    What a wuss Tony Baloney is. You call that pepper spraying someone? Sorry, it’s not real pepper spraying until you chain them down and daub their eyes directly before hauling them off and suing their ass. Officer Tony would be laughed out of Humboldt.

  14. Anonymous
    September 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    What does this have to do with Humboldt State? Why is the demonstration going to on the quad? Why not choose a local bank or business if that’s what folks are mad at?
    HSU doesn’t have money in their budget to clean up after a bunch of rabble rousers (dirty hippies) with nothing better to do.
    I hope the protesters will at least spend some money at our snack bar while they’re here.

  15. Plain Jane
    September 30, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    HSU students are suffering with higher tuition and lower funding as well as a lack of jobs, 1:14. Homecoming week is a great time to bring attention to this issue.

  16. WhatNow
    September 30, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    “HSU doesn’t have money in their budget to clean up after a bunch of rabble rousers (dirty hippies) with nothing better to do.”

    I suggest bthat brooms and trash cans be distributed to Richmond and the rest of bloated bloated buereauacRATS and THEY clean up any mess made by the protestors.
    They’ve done goddamned precious little else of worth for that college, it’s staff ,students OR the local community.

  17. September 30, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    …….and what does our beer drinking, tobacco smoking ( DRUGS ) hypocrite President tell us about unarmed peaceful protesters being attacked in other Countries ? Of course….it only happens in other Countries, heh ………Pres. ?

  18. Matt
    September 30, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    I didn’t realize there were many Wall Street executives on the HSU campus on weekends

  19. Matt
    September 30, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    all kidding aside, protesting Richmond at HSU is a great idea. That guy is WAY overpaid (on taxpayer money, no less).

  20. Matt
    September 30, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    “It is a pathetic demonstration by about 80 people with nothing better to do.”

    Well, in your opinion I suppose.

    But then there are the airline pilots too: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/29/1021378/-Occupy-Wall-Street-growingrapidly?detail=hide&via=blog_1

  21. September 30, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Why is it that the NYPD is allowed to run an investigation into crimes they have supposedly committed? If I were Deputy Inspector Anthony Bolonga I would make sure that my own investigative department determined I was not guilty….no matter how many unarmed women behind police lines I maced.

  22. High Finance
    September 30, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Just more proof of how irrelevant this blog is.

  23. Anonymous
    September 30, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    OMFG! another place for Kim Star ,aka who ever the F she is pretending to be now , to get a free meal,cigs &buds. Will someone bath that nimrod!

  24. dwayne
    October 1, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Yeah it’s so irrelevant Hifi visits and comments here multiple times every day.

  25. High Finance
    October 1, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Somebody has to say your emperor (Heraldo) has no clothes.

  26. October 1, 2011 at 9:26 am

    HiFi imagines me without clothes while he’s home, at work and at his other office. Blush.

  27. Anonymous
    October 1, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Have you considered stand up HiFi? I ask because your so funny I lay down and laugh each time I read one of your inane comments

  28. Anonymous
    October 1, 2011 at 9:59 am

    Perhaps we should be protesting the wages and benefits paid to the CEO of the CCCU. Talk about local greed

  29. Anonymous
    October 1, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Or, we could protest lazy ass hats who have no vision beyond ,” everyone owes me “

  30. Anonymous
    October 1, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Four hours pass. One wonders. Has anyone been to HSU? Can anyone tell us about the turnout there for Occupy Humboldt?

  31. High Finance
    October 1, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    I often dream of you Heraldo. I dream that you have admitted the errors of your ways and have adopted logic and intelligence.

    Alas, I awaken to find you are the same old extremist partisan you always have been.

  32. October 1, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    High Finance says:
    October 1, 2011 at 7:54 pm
    “I often dream of you Heraldo”

    Like the wind, run Heraldo, run.

  33. Anonymous
    October 1, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    “Your” means possession. That is your coat. “You’re” is a contraction, meaning a shortened version of “you” and “are”, as in 9:45’s usage of it in the sentence that includes, “you’re so funny I lay down and laugh”. Someone else comment on the lay down part. Is that correct?

  34. insider
    October 1, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    “HSU students are suffering with higher tuition and lower funding as well as a lack of jobs, 1:14. Homecoming week is a great time to bring attention to this issue.”

    What issue? The need to trash the HSU campus?

  35. October 1, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Democracy Now! report on the Occupy Wall Street protests in New York.

  36. October 1, 2011 at 9:53 pm
  37. skippy
    October 1, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Nice report today, thank you. It’s hard to find out what’s been happening through the mainstream news. This is a hot issue that seems to be gaining traction.

    “At 5:15 today, the Brooklyn Bridge was been shut down by police; by 8:40 pm, around 400 peaceful protesters were arrested.”

    The latest updates can be found on the protester’s website, OccupyWallSt.org.

    On their website, they’ve set up a mailbox for food and money order donations to be sent to those protesting:

    The UPS Store
    Re: Occupy Wall Street
    118A Fulton St. #205
    New York, NY 10038
    “Money orders only please, cannot cash checks yet. Non-perishable goods only. We can accept packages of any size. We’re currently low on food.”

  38. October 1, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    The latest reports say 700 arrests at the Brooklyn Bridge.

  39. skippy
    October 2, 2011 at 12:07 am

    10/1/11 Meeting Minutes:
    Because hundreds of us got arrested, GA will be a little bit different. First, a review of procedures. Then we will have working group report backs. After that, announcements! For working group report backs, we’re going to give priority to Legal and Direct Action to report back on what happened today…”

    THESE NYC folks are organized, wired in, and in it for the long haul. They’re somewhere between committed, dedicated, and thoroughly pissed– in unity.

    THIS isn’t going away anytime soon– but the 700 arrests certainly took out some of the oomph today as Rikers Island paddy wagons hauled off protesters with bail being set to the tune of $1,000 a pop.

    AN Occupy Wall Street General Assembly meeting is being held twice a day, coordinating their Legal, Direct Action, Internet, Media, Food Kitchen, Arts and Culture, Donations and Supplies, Sanitation, Medical, Outreach, Tactical, Town Hall, and a host of other working groups and teams.

    I don’t know how long this will last– but their calendar of events extends beyond June 2013.

    Can this be even remotely realistic?

    TAKE a look at their New York General Assembly website to see what this it’s all about; the coordination, working groups, videos, and, of course, the General Assembly meeting minutes for any given day.

    THIS Occupy Wall Street protest has the potential of being nothing short of both prolonged and amazing—depending on how the weather, spirits, the economy and the angry mood of the people hold out.

  40. Mitch
    October 2, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Here’s the declaration from the web site skippy cites above. I’d challenge anyone to find any statement below that is not true.

    Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

    As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

    As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

    They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

    They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

    They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

    They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

    They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.

    They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

    They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

    They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

    They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

    They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

    They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

    They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.

    They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

    They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

    They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.

    They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

    They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.

    They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

    They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

    They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

    They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

    They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

    To the people of the world,

    We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

    Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

    To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

    Join us and make your voices heard!

    *These grievances are not all-inclusive.

  41. Plain Jane
    October 2, 2011 at 8:25 am

    “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Gandhi

    Looks like the third phase is beginning.

  42. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 10:19 am

    How did the Occupy Humboldt event go?

  43. October 2, 2011 at 10:36 am

    They reported 40 overnighters on campus. They will march to the plaza at 11:30am today.

  44. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Kim Starr’s mouth never stopped moving all night.

  45. jr
    October 2, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Gil Scott-Heron was right: “The revolution will not be televised.”

  46. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Channel 3 reported the event with what I consider a minimalist style. Minimum time devoted to “Occupy Arcata” – one sentence. And Minimum content – they reported on the 700 arrests of protestors in NYC but didn’t say anything more about the protestors than that they were “anti-Wall Street.”

    Not pro-democracy? Not anti-oligarchy?

  47. walt
    October 3, 2011 at 4:15 am

    Not all of us who would like to subvert the Corporate Paradigm can spend the night on Wall Street, or even at HSU, so I’d like to offer 10 things we CAN do to take power away from the corporatocracy. Feel free to tweak this list, or, better still, make up your own.

    1.MAKE, DON’T BUY.
    2.STAY, DON’T GO.

    If we each do these things to the best of our ability we can take at least some of our freedoms back from our corporate masters.

  48. 06em
    October 3, 2011 at 5:57 am

    I don’t think voting Green will take power away from the corporatocracy.

  49. Percy
    October 3, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Being the outstanding Jew for Hitler that he/she is, hifi disses the Wallstreet protest that brings attention to a totally corrupt financial system totally out of control. Protest is good. Young people protesting is great. Young people going to college and having to pay more for less education and then entering a job market with no jobs and not protesting is what seems strange to me.

  50. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    “….a thin oligarchic class and an obsequious cadre of politicians, judges and journalists who live in their little gated Versailles while 6 million Americans are thrown out of their homes…”

    And with this quote Chris Hedges describes the locked-gate dorms at HSU that houses the children of the privileged class, attracted to HSU for the tens of millions of public dollars wasted annually for sports, recreation, entertainment venues, and leisure activities that appeals to their sensibilities.

    What better indoctrination into corporate America than enjoying programs subsidized by the little people who cannot afford the user fees?

  51. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Bring your drums, your chickens your ducks. Protest wars for oil and natural? disasters. all you outdoors more people, bicycle garden party peepee poopoo party for all.

  52. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Seems like the BofA parking lot would be the obvious place to camp out.

  53. Auntie Arkley
    October 4, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Only 80 people? I guess High Finance is so stupid he cannot count. Have you seen the photos of the Wall Street PACKED with people? Go ahead and deny it, but REAL people are rising up. We’ve had enough of your rancid, greedy, fascist, right-wing anti-American propaganda. You are anti-American traitors and will be treated as such. You right-wing teabaggers are obviously brain-dead and have no observational or reasoning skills. Try developing those before you open you lie-hole.

  54. Plain Jane
    October 4, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    There were 700 people arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge, FFS!

  55. Auntie Arkley
    October 4, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    What does this have to do with HSU? Well, that university is no longer run as an educational institution, but is now run as a corporation, with exorbitant salaries for its corporate officers. All programs are open to cuts except the business college and sports. How corporate is THAT?

  56. Auntie Arkley
    October 4, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Maybe he means there are 80 people left after the arrests.

  57. skippy
    October 4, 2011 at 8:36 pm


    YOU won’t find much about the national protest in the mainstream media news, some of whom were characterizing the protesters as “young and misguided,” “unclear and unfocused,” “dirty and unkempt,” and “behaving like spoiled brats.” Some working on Wall Street were quoted as saying they were “confused” by the protesters’ intentions or direction.

    LET’S see what happens Wednesday, October 5th, during the Occupy Wall Street protests. Despite the negative portrayals, here’s what’s on tap:

    THE 4:30 p.m. march from City Hall to Wall Street is expected to be the biggest and largest march of all. Several unions have endorsed their support marching for the cause Wednesday: the New York United Federation of Teachers with a membership of 200,000; the New York Amalgamated Transit Union having 20,000 members; and the Transport Workers Union Local 100.

    ADDITIONALLY, 2,231 other individuals have signed up to march with the participating labor and community organizations that include the Coalition for the Homeless, Working Families Party, MoveOn.org, The Job Party, Communication Workers of America, United Auto Workers, Writers Guild East, Greater NYC for Change, and many more.

    JOHN Samuelsen, president of the local transit workers union, filed for a federal injunction to stop the city and NYPD from commandeering city buses to transport arrested protesters. The injunction, however, was denied by a Federal District judge several hours ago.

    SIMILAR demonstrations are popping up in Boston, Atlanta, Denver, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, and… well, Boise? Meanwhile, activists have begun organizing outside the U.S.in Prague, Frankfurt, Toronto, Melbourne, Tokyo, and Cork, Ireland. More than 1,000 people signed up to march on the London Stock Exchange this Saturday.

    TWICE a day, the New York Occupy Wall Street movement is getting so much mail that protesters had to designate an official “mailman.” Well-wishers and kindred spirits from across the country have been sending cardboard boxes bearing food, medical supplies, clothes and blankets to the masses who have been camped out since Sept. 14. The encampment now feeds and shelters hundreds of people each day and has a kitchen, a library, zones for first aid and sleeping – not to mention a committee putting out the trash. It’s reported the occupiers have plenty of food– but supplies such as sleeping bags are running low.

    WEDNESDAY’S march has the potential to be massive. Another day, another protest?

  58. skippy
    October 4, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    This just in… I think today’s march is gonna be big, folks

    “On October 05, 2011, at 3:00 in the afternoon the residents of Liberty Square will gather to join their union brothers and sisters in solidarity and march. At 4:30 in the afternoon the 99% will march in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street from Foley Square to the Financial District, where their pensions have disappeared to, where their health has disappeared to. Together we will protest this great injustice. We stand in solidarity with the honest workers of:
    …it’s a long list– so skip it if you like, folks)

    • United NY
    • Strong Economy for All Coalition
    • Working Families Party
    • TWU Local 100
    • SEIU 1199
    • CWA 1109
    • RWDSU
    • Communications Workers of America
    • CWA Local 1180
    • United Auto Workers
    • United Federation of Teachers
    • Professional Staff Congress – CUNY
    • National Nurses United
    • Writers Guild East
    • VOCAL-NY
    • Community Voices Heard
    • Alliance for Quality Education
    • New York Communities for Change
    • Coalition for the Homeless
    • Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project (NEDAP)
    • The Job Party
    • NYC Coalition for Educational Justice
    • The Mirabal Sisters Cultural and Community Center
    • The New Deal for New York Campaign
    • National People’s Action
    • ALIGN
    • Human Services Council
    • Labor-Religion Coalition of New York State
    • Citizen Action of NY
    • MoveOn.org
    • Common Cause NY
    • New Bottom Line
    • 350.org
    • Tenants & Neighbors
    • Democracy for NYC
    • Resource Generation
    • Tenants PAC
    • Teachers Unite

    “Together we will voice our belief that the American dream will live again, that the American way is to help one another succeed. Our voice, our values, will be heard.”

    …It seems the they gotta whole lotta peeps going on here…

  59. WhatNow
    October 5, 2011 at 3:41 am

    Evidently, each of the above organizations is sending just a fraction over 2 represenatives each to meet the 80 persons Highly Fried assured us was the actual number of agitators present.
    I’m still perplexed as to how they managed to total arrests of over 700 people on the Brooklyn Bridge while simultaneously carpeting the area between the bull and the bear AND creating the illusion of at least 1000 people in front of the NYPD office.
    Holograms? Mass hypnosis? Liberal press inflating the numbers?

  60. Mitch
    October 5, 2011 at 7:48 am

    Hey WhatNow,

    Who’re you going to believe, HiFi or your lyin’ eyes?

  61. High Finance
    October 5, 2011 at 8:44 am

    Nice lies there Auntie Arkley (as usual) and Mitch. Taking my comment about the first days of the NY protest and pretending I was talking about yesterday’s protest.

    But these protestors are just the usual people who protest everything. I saw one in the NY protest on NBC news holding a sign saying “Free Kurdistan”

    Huh ?

    But really ? You’re impressed because of a couple thousand protestors in a city of 10 million people ? That is something like .0002 % of the people in that city. That would be the equivilent of 26 people in Eureka. Meanwhile, pro lifers held a protest at the Bayshore Mall a couple of days ago. 200 were there and not one word about it in the media.

  62. Anonymous
    October 5, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Wow! 200 people at the mall? And the media didn’t notice? Damn liberal lamestream media, baby killers all of ’em. How dare they focus on wall st?

  63. High Finance
    October 5, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Lame brain, the point is the anti establishment protests are always hyped up by the media.

  64. Anonymous
    October 5, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Roe v Wade is established HiFi, has been for some time.

  65. Anonymous
    October 5, 2011 at 11:46 am

    HiFi has already conceded her support for a woman’s right to chose on Heraldo…until HiFi needs to resurrect the “liberal media” canard by lamenting the lack of coverage of a “pro-life” demonstration.

    This is merely more of HiFi’s sophistry, hardly worthy of the attention she demands.

  66. Auntie Arkley
    October 5, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    High Finance: Your idiocy speaks for itself.

  67. Plain Jane
    October 5, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Greg Palast on Billionaire Vultures, David and Charles Koch, Paul Singer and Ken Langone, their corruption and why they want to pick our next president:


  68. Plain Jane
    October 5, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    HiFi missed all the hype over the Tea Party protests?

  69. Plain Jane
    October 5, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    The hilarious thing is the “liberal” media is downplaying the protests, pretending they don’t know what they’re about, quoting silliness rather than the various leaders coalitions in the protest. Again I am reminded of Gandhi’s quote, “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

  70. caliboy
    October 5, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    PJ, Gandhi lead a revolution against starvation, oppression, discrimination, and conditions you lack the ability to even fathom.

    Your a silly middle class white bitch, sitting in a warm middle class home whining.

    There is a huge difference.

  71. Plain Jane
    October 5, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Surf’s up, Caliboy!

  72. skippy
    October 5, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    How do we make sense out of all of this?

    We’re witnessing America’s first true Internet-era movement. The mainstream media seem determined in casting these folks as a random, silly blather of an ungrateful and lazy generation of weirdos. As journalists have pointed out, kids are criticizing corporate America while tweeting through their iPhones.

    ARE they Communists? Anarchists? The unemployed? Union workers? College graduates left hanging without jobs, saddled in debt? The ‘99%’? Those showing up just for the fun and camaraderie? All of the above— and more.

    WHILE the Tea Party movement originated from the ‘right,’ this movement centers more from the left. Their common denominator is of being disenfranchised while demanding accountability. Unlike civil rights protests, labor marches, or political campaigns, this one doesn’t take its cue from a charismatic leader, express itself in bumper-sticker-length goals, nor understand itself as having a particular endpoint. It’s not a traditional protest– or narrative arc– as we’ve seen in the past.

    AS one protester explained, “As far as seeing it end, I wouldn’t like to see it end. I would like to see the conversation continue.

    YES, there are a wide array of complaints, demands, and goals from the occupiers: the collapsing environment, labor standards, housing policy, government corruption, World Bank lending practices, unemployment, increasing wealth disparity, corporate excess and bailouts, and so on. Are they ready to articulate exactly what that problem is and how to address it? No, not yet. But neither are the Congress, the President, corporate America and Wall Street.

    ANYONE who says they have no idea what these folks are protesting is not being fully truthful. Whether we agree with them or not, we all know what they’re upset about. Occupy Wall Street is a social movement spreading through contagion, creating as many questions as it answers, and aiming to force a reconsideration of the way the nation does business. Yes, it’s as unwieldy, paradoxical, and inconsistent as those of us living in the real world. Precisely. This movement is merely pointing the way.

    And we watch it because it offers hope to those of us who previously felt alone in our belief that the current economic system is broken.

  73. Ed
    October 5, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    It’s so similar to Seattle ’99, but back then there was no national media attention and the middle class hadn’t suffered enough. Now the sleeping giant is awakening.

  74. skippy
    October 5, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Occupy Wall Street brought thousands of people to the streets of New York on Wednesday after major labor unions gave their backing to its anti-greed message, a sign the movement is shifting from a loose-knit fringe group to a bloc that could draw in mainstream America. Teachers and nurses mixed with students holding placards lamenting soaring tuition and their inability to repay student loans. Veterans complained of being out of work and homeless. Senior citizens lamented the hardships facing their grandchildren. Reports from the group’s website claim police batons and pepper spray were used on protesters with “at least 20 arrests.”

    The White House has yet to comment on Occupy Wall Street. Two Republican presidential hopefuls weighed in: Herman Cain dismissed them, saying, “I don’t have much patience for someone who does not want to achieve their American dream the old-fashioned way.Mitt Romney has called the protest “class warfare.” “I’m just trying to occupy the White House,” he said slipping into his waiting car.

    Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told the Joint Economic Committee that he understands the protesters’ frustrations. “I would just say very generally, I think people are quite unhappy with the state of the economy and what’s happening,” he said. “They blame, with some justification, the problems in the financial sector for getting us into this mess, and they’re dissatisfied with the policy response here in Washington. And at some level, I can’t blame them.

    Of the protest activities scheduled for the coming week, this might be the firecracker to keep an eye on: the‘hacktivist’ group named Anonymous which attacked a number of corporate and government Web sites this year posted a video message saying it will support the protesters by erasing the New York Stock Exchange “from the Internet” on Monday, Oct. 10.

  75. Mitch
    October 6, 2011 at 7:48 am


    You quote Ben Bernanke just above: “They blame, with some justification, the problems in the financial sector for getting us into this mess, and they’re dissatisfied with the policy response here in Washington. And at some level, I can’t blame them.”

    Good for Ben Bernanke! Coming from a DC insider, that’s practically an endorsement of Occupy Wall Street. I’d thought the (two) party line was that they were shaggy-haired-dirty-faced-ungrateful-children.

  76. skippy
    October 6, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Mitch, Bernanke’s comments were an interesting ackowledgement witnessed before the Joint Economic Committee. Less surprising is Ann Coulter’s reference to the protesters being “Nazi’s.”

    Nazi’s? Shaggy-haired children?

    Take a short look at this Youtube video, Incredible Speech by Wall Street Protester. Something about it is very captivating, and with 62,000 views: one all-American youth, passionate, exasperated, smart and articulate enough, trying to save a financial America, exhorting, “Where will you run? Where will you go? There’s nowhere to go! Once America falls, the whole world, other countries, and freedom, will fall. The coming Depression will make 1930 look like a walk in the park. End the Fed, end the fractional reserve banking system, end fiat money…

  77. October 6, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Caliboy at 12:46 ” PJ, Gandhi lead a revolution against starvation, oppression, discrimination, and conditions you lack the ability to even fathom.”

    California once had the finest in the world education system, essentially free to the meritorious. That was replaced with a system based on wealth. Now
    we produce Caliboys and billionaires. This too will turn-around.

  78. caliboy
    October 6, 2011 at 10:07 am

    You sir are full of shit, teachers unions were largely responsible for the problems in public schools in California. Education system started going downhill in the 60’s as Union was formed and became powerful. Wealth had nothing to do with it. When teachers could not be fired for not doing their job, down it went. Unlike most jobs, there are no objective standards.

    Frankly, you know nothing about me, just another fool who can type.

  79. Anonymous
    October 6, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    PJ & crew U B crazy as usual. Jobs just died. He is exactly everything you hate and everything the world needs. No Bs, no handouts , no you owe me , no government makes inovation and jobs, no ideological boundries. His story much like Herman Cains shows the true spirit and greatness in this country. You have a choice and a right. Not to sucess but to TRY! Get off your sniveling dead asses if you want more. If not , just kick back and live off the bounty that is everywhere even in rough times. Or, just a thought , go to Somalia and try out your tired story.

  80. High Finance
    October 6, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    What I see in NY is a tiny fraction of the people disrupting the lives of those trying to work.

    The protestors should stop living the life of victimhood and start being responsible for improving their own lives.

    Teachers & nurses were out in the protests ? I doubt that as the real teachers & nurses had to work on a Wednesday. Why should I have to pay back the student loans that others took out ? The biggest problem with our country today is that too many people want a free ride.

  81. Not A Native
    October 6, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    I’ll not rise to Hi Fi’s patently false and bait intended only to divide the 99%.

    What a disappointment, Repukes had just declared “mission accomplished” in their class war, and now this happens. You’ll be remembered Hi Fi, in the knitting of those who read your betrayal of the US.

  82. Plain Jane
    October 6, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    There are lots of teachers and nurses out of work today, HiFi. Guess you haven’t noticed.

    Cutting funding for education, few jobs for students, lower wages for parents, and Wall Street pilfered investment portfolios all forced higher student loans. Now with a crashed economy these students have huge bills coming due when there are not only no jobs commensurate with their very expensive educations, but not nearly enough even minimum wage jobs. Are we just going to throw away an entire generation of our college educated youth or figure out a way that they can postpone payment or be forgiven at least a portion of their debt so they can work at lower than expected pay until the economy improves?

  83. Plain Jane
    October 6, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    To put it another way so HiFi might understand it. Historically, recent college graduates were a major source of fuel to the market. They bought cars, electronics, furniture, houses, started families, etc. Today far too many can’t afford an apartment, much less payments on student loans. They aren’t asking for a free ride. They’ll pay for the ride many times over when they reach their destination – a decent job.

  84. caliboy
    October 6, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Whine, whine, whine. Your both as full of shit as those people being used by Soro’s and his gang. Of which you are in fact part of as this is what you support.

    PJ they are not talking about paying back shit. I cannot believe that someone smart enough to type could believe all the dumb shit both you and NAN spout.

    Of course the prog agenda is no to be questioned. Keep on progin.

    Made some phone calls, Redwood, St. Joe’s and Mad River, fully staffed. No great lack of teachers in Humboldt schools today either. In fact working people are all at work.

    Quick PJ, quote that asshole Krugman, I’m sure he has the answer.

  85. Plain Jane
    October 6, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Surf’s up, Calidiot.

  86. High Finance
    October 6, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Do you think raising taxes on the brink of another, maybe even worse, recession will make the economy better or worse PJ ?

    What do those recent college grads looking for work want more, a job or a paid off loan ?

  87. Fact Checker
    October 6, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    I pay my fair share, why does Wall Street pay such a substantially less percentage? As if when I spend money I am not creating jobs. As if when my taxes and cost of living rise while wages remain flat this does not create hardship for me. Yet I wake up every day, put on my big boy pants, and off to work I go. Those bums on Wall Street could learn more about personal and social responsibility for a regular working guy like me.

  88. Plain Jane
    October 6, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    I think raising taxes on the very rich will encourage them to lower their salaries and pay better wages to their employees, HiFi. At least it will help to pay for the increased demand for social programs necessitated by their infinite greed. I don’t think a 5% surcharge on a million dollar income is going to hurt those who have to pay it in the slightest and will have only a positive effect on the economy by decreasing the deficit and calming the bond markets. I’m not a recent college grad and I doubt they all share the same dream, but expecting them to pay off college loans taken out with the expectation they were going to have well paying jobs on McWages is heartless. Cancelling or postponing repayment until the economy improves and they can find jobs in the field for which they borrowed all that money only seems reasonable. They’ll make it up in higher taxes and contributions to the economy for many years to come.

  89. Anonymous
    October 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    There are abuses every where. Some small, some large. They are no excuse for low expectations and sub par performance. Shame on you PJ. You see the sliver in others eyes but not the log in yours. Stock holders should say no to excessive CEO bonuses for failure.

  90. Plain Jane
    October 6, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    If I had a clue WTF you’re talking about, I might agree with you, 4:21. However…..

  91. Walt
    October 6, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    “Stock holders should say no to excessive CEO bonuses for failure.” They can’t because the Boards of Directors, CEOs from other companies, won’t let them: the millions of shares CEOs own and control gives them total veto power. Just as folks like Pope and the Koch brothers (see New Yorker articles) are working TOGETHER to make Turdblossom’s dream of a “permanent Republican majority” a reality, so they control the boards of the corporations that control us. Our system is “free market competition” like Stalin’s Russia was communism. The folks behind Occupy Wall Street sense this, and know operating within the system is already futile.

  92. Anonymous
    October 6, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    I can’t imagine trying to keep track of all the decisions made without asking me, the stockholder. I think you are barking up the wrong tree, 4:21. I have lots of stocks and vote on a lot of things, but the CEO salaries don’t seem to be one of them. It seems like to attract people who can run a huge company, they are competing for those people who make the high salaries. Maybe there should be a standard cap or figure that is “customary”. But it isn’t as simple as having all the stockholders make the decisions. The board of directors tries to represent the stockholders and keep their seat.

  93. Anonymous
    October 6, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Fact Checker, because Wall Street is not a person. The people who earn the money pay the real taxes, not the companies.

  94. Plain Jane
    October 6, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    They aren’t a person for tax purposes, just political purposes? All money is taxed repeatedly when it changes hands.

  95. Not A Native
    October 6, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Gee, in other industiralized nations, corporate executives are paid much less than in the US, and they seem to be competant and motivated. FWIW, doctors and lawyers are paid less too. Are German, Japanese, and Swiss executives inferior? Course, those other countries’ executives aren’t red blooded Americans, the best darn decision makers in the whole wide world.

    And BTW its wasn’t always this way in the good ole’ USA either. Executive(and doctor/lawyer) payscales were in line with other countries until the 1970’s.

  96. Plain Jane
    October 6, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    There is a lot being written about executive pay and golden parachutes for failure lately, Nan. Since board members are usually top executives at other corporations, the competition to increase salaries at the top to “attract and retain” talent (where are they going to go?) is self-serving at the expense of the workers and owners.

  97. Not A Native
    October 6, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    You saying there’s a corporate executive/large shareholder/fund manager/politician wheeler dealer group thats making war on and dominating the other 99%? Can’t be, because this is America and those are the job creators who want to benefit everyone else.

  98. The Big Picture
    October 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Great comments…

    It costs a bundle to attract an insider to your team.

    A level of corruption and secrecy capable of collapsing the world economy, looting the U.S. Treasury, AND remaining on top, is priceless.

  99. High Finance
    October 7, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Talk about your paranoid conspiracies ……..

  100. Anonymous
    October 7, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Don’t you read the business news, HiFi?

  101. Plain Jane
    October 7, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Anonymous 1:02 was me.

  102. Plain Jane
  103. Plain Jane
    October 7, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    I wonder how much the golden parachutes built into these crazy compensation packages increase the rate of failure. Isn’t a basic conservative principle touted against social programs that if you reward people for failure they will fail?

  104. The Big Picture
    October 8, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    I challenge any poster here to locate a single post by Hi-Liar critical of the world-wide economic disruptions caused by Wall Street.

    He’s to busy fighting public showers and sniffing the bushes for homeless poop.

  105. Anonymous
    October 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    If Hi-Liar had children, he would better-understand the human instinct toward conspiracies.

    Or, he could read a book.

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