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Comic talks weed and growing up in Humboldt

  1. Ponder z
    October 2, 2011 at 7:03 am

    Pot capitol of the world?

    UNODC estimated the extent of Afghan cannabis production at between 25,000 and 60,000 acres. While the number of acres under production is lower than in Morocco, the robust yields from Afghan cannabis — about 90 kilograms of cannabis resin (hashish) per acre versus about 25 kilograms per acre in Morocco — make Afghanistan the world leader in cannabis production, the UNODC said. Afghanistan is producing somewhere between 1,500 and 3,500 tons of hash a year, the report estimated.

    If you take all the gardens in Humboldt, you might get 50 acres. Although Humboldt is of the finest quality, the Afghans product outweighs Humboldt by volume of the drug itself, when processed into hash. The whole production of the USA is not close to 3500 tons of bud.
    So now you have evidence of stupidity and ignorance form a long term dope smoker, living in the Humboldt bubble.

  2. Plain Jane
    October 2, 2011 at 8:20 am

    If you got out of Humboldt once in a while, Ponderz, you would know that no matter where you travel in the world, names of Humboldt towns don’t elicit much reaction; but when you say you are from Humboldt they ask if you are a pot grower. “Pot capitol” doesn’t necessarily mean most grown. HC has been growing some of the finest buds for many decades and that’s why it is called “pot capitol.”

  3. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Too bad we grow good weed but have a lot of lazy bag non-contributors paying taxes on these goods to support our schools, police, fire, hospitals, roads and other general services that they benefit from

  4. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 9:07 am

    “lazy bag non-contributors NOT paying taxes”

  5. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 9:07 am

    “not paying taxes”

  6. October 2, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Ponder:

    “The whole production of the USA is not close to 3500 tons of bud.”

    hmmm, dry flowers? Or the whole damn plant weighed, roots stalk and all,
    the way are bad boys sheriffs use to pump the numbers, while destroying peoples lives.
    You think you’ve got bullies now, we have a history reflective of a collective ignorance and until that collective ignorance is kicked in the pants hard enough, ie multi -million dollar out of town lawsuits, we are not going anywhere.

  7. jr
    October 2, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Humboldt County is the “pot capital” not “capitol” Capital means place, capitol means building.

  8. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    JR don’t try to tell P J anything. She gets cranky because she knows everything.

    Btw. Just made a great Home Depot purchase today. Saved 390 dollars over getting it at Piersons. Spent 7.25 in tax vs 9 here. Got free delivery instead of the 100 bucks from the Big Hammer. Tis a great day!

  9. Anonymous#1
    October 2, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Mr Not Paying Taxes. In case this escapes you whenever wealth is created in a community the dollar amount typically gets spread to 3 to 5 people before it leaves the community, therefore every pot grower/wealth creator is a main creator of community wealth. As the Republicans say, Don’t mess with the JOB/wealth creators. Give them tax breaks. Subsidies. Etc. How much wealth have you created for your community recently? Or possibly are you one of those who live off the dollars that are spread around by the Job Creators?

  10. Anonymous
    October 2, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Dip shit. I paid my taxes when I purchased. Just not 9 percent. I pay loads of taxes every year. Not like a lot of you folks who sell pot. Now back under your rock. You so make me laugh that you think its ok to spread pot money around and not pay payroll, end of year taxes and SS. And you hate corporations. Look in the freakin mirror dudes. Hypocrites.

  11. Plain Jane
    October 2, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    I know how to spell capital and capitol and the proper usage for each. I was using Ponderz spelling and put it in quotes for that reason. Isn’t it funny that the troll didn’t comment on Ponderz misspelling?

    What’s with the increase in hater troll traffic lately?

  12. October 2, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    What would the Humboldt County economy look like right now without several Billion $ of marijuana income flowing into the county?

    That’s right…20 percent unemployment easy. It is time to take care of the golden goose before its too late.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  13. Plain Jane
    October 2, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    From a purely local perspective, pot money probably does this county a lot more good than it would if they paid it in taxes. It pays property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes and is probably the deciding factor in success or failure for most businesses which employ us and provide our services.

  14. Bolithio
    October 2, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    If you take all the gardens in Humboldt, you might get 50 acres.

    Wrong! Hundreds of acres. Goggle Earth brother!

  15. Anonymous #1
    October 2, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Anonymous 5:49 pm. I did not infer that you did not pay taxes. Just about everybody does. The question was do you profit off that wealth that the pot industry brings to the community? It is possible that you do not but it is only a small minority in this county who do not. Must have hit the nail on the head, I guess.

  16. Ponder z
    October 3, 2011 at 6:43 am

    1 acre = 43560 square feet
    a nice big plant will use 9 sq’

    In Afghanistan pot is row cropped and males are not always pulled. The weed is made to hash, seeds used for oil. And they still produce more tons of hash then the USA dose bud.
    And for you PJ the story stared of with capitol.

    Via YouTube: Comic Cornell Reid on ‘Reefer Madness’ and Life in Humboldt County (pot capitol of the world)
    So I prove my point again, “stupid and ignorant”!

  17. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Nope no nail’s head. The fact is that pot growers are income tax evaders and don’t contribute to SS. You can’t get around that. By your twisted logic you shouldn’t be ragging about anyone including all tax evading entities from not paying their “fair share.”. I pay my fair share and the dope growers don’t. The “we pay sales tax too” evades the argument and is just the typical dodge by you folks. Hypocrites all.

  18. Plain Jane
    October 3, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Ponderz,”Pot capitol” is still incorrect, regardless of the You Tube post’s use of the wrong word.

    For 7:16, I didn’t see anyone saying they support pot growers not paying taxes, but it isn’t all negative. The money they spend rather than pay it in taxes still ends up in the pockets of businesses, and yours and mine. If they were hoarding it in offshore accounts, like the corporations do to avoid taxes, there wouldn’t be a plus side.

  19. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 7:25 am

    Hypocrisy would be recommending we all pay taxes and then not paying themselves. Politicians are hypocritical in this way.

    To not pay taxes and just hole up in the mountains is not by definition hypocritical.

  20. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 7:43 am

    Bullshit. Pay your fair share or shut up. Hypocrites.

  21. October 3, 2011 at 7:52 am

    Tea Party always calling taxes “theft.” Tea Party says goverment “takes my money at gunpoint.” Tea Party says taxes should be eliminated. Tea Party says SS is a Ponzi Scheme.

    But let a few pot growers actually opt out of the corrupt system? No way says the right wing. No, the rabid right wing anti pot folks here want to send the armed gangs to uproot the pot farmers! Why? Because they don’t pay income and SS taxes!

    You right wingers are the hypocrites. You can’t have it both ways.

    Actually once pot is legal most growers will pay taxes. A few won’t just like the backwoods distillers.

    The pot growers have no choice until pot is legal at the federal level. They cannot pay these taxes without incriminating themselves. They have a Constitutional right against self incrimination.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  22. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Well Bill I am a democrat and you all are tax cheats who don’t pay your fair share or supporters of those tax cheats who don’t contribute their fair share to state and federal governments. Just quit being hypocrites by ranting about corps or businesses you claim don’t.

  23. October 3, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Just end the unconstitutional prohibition of cannabis sativa and most people will pay their share of taxes.

    That is easy enough for anyone to understand.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  24. October 3, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Farming is an ancient, honorable, and productive occupation and when practiced properly it is not destructive of the Earth. It is inhuman to criminalize it.

    Cannabis Sativa is a plant with thousands of uses, industrial, nutritional, recreational, medicinal and spiritual and a history of thousands of years of usefulness to humans.

    It is ok with me if you tax the industrial and recreational uses of the herb, but it is not ok with me if you tax the nutritional, medicinal or spiritual uses of the herb.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  25. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Are you sleepy or just deluded? And until then the growers will cheat. No contributions to SS for the elderly nor towards medicare or to support any of the big government offices or programs on the fed level. No contribution to the state for MediCal, our parks or schools or anything else. And nobody is writing a chck at the end of the year as a donation to either which would amount to their fair share.

    Tax cheats and hypocrites.

  26. October 3, 2011 at 8:45 am

    You are the sleepy one.

    Until the plant they are growing is legal to grow, possess, sell, transport and consume under federal law, growers have no legal compunction to pay any taxes as doing so would violate their 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination. I thought this was implicit in my earlier post.

    In that sense they are paying thier “fair share” right now. They are paying what they are legally required to pay. End of story.

    End the unconstitutional prohibition and tax the industrial and recreational uses of cannabis sativa. Fine with me.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  27. Mitch
    October 3, 2011 at 9:03 am

    This is a fascinating argument, HiBo. It didn’t work very well for Al Capone.

  28. October 3, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Hello Mitch,

    Yes I am aware that Capone was convicted of tax evasion. I don’t know if he raised the same kind of 5th amendment arguments or not.

    At any rate Al Capone isn’t a very good comparison to the typical pot farmer. As noted above, farming is an ancient and honorable human occupation. Running a violent crime syndicate isn’t.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  29. Anonymous # !
    October 3, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Mr. “pot growers do not pay taxes, SS etc. Really. How do you know that and do you have any facts to back your assertion? More than likely, there are no more tax cheats among pot growers than among any other group (excepting corporations, who don’t seem to pay much, so they are bigger cheats than all). By the way, I do not have anything to do with that trade, but I do like to look at facts and reality instead of some sort of cultural dogma or fantasy that has little basis in reality. What is wrong with these job creators, are they harming out community?

  30. Mitch
    October 3, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Bill,

    No, Al Capone isn’t a very good comparison to the typical pot farmer.

    But tax evasion is tax evasion. I’m sympathetic to some arguments calling for not paying taxes (especially if there was no personal financial benefit to keeping taxes from the government), but I’m not sympathetic to the argument that paying taxes would reveal other law-breaking, and therefore constitutes self-incrimination.

    And there are ways to pay taxes on income without revealing the precise source of that income. I doubt very many pot farmers do that, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

  31. October 3, 2011 at 9:35 am

    One important distinction is that Capone was trading in alcholol, that had been made illegal under the Volstead Act, and the Volstead Act was only made possible by amending the Constitution.

    There has never been a Constitutional amendment outlawing the cultivation of cannabis sativa. People have a Constitutional right to grow, possess, process and consume cannabis. Capone had no such right.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  32. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Even if some people don’t pay their “fair share” of federal and state taxes in this relatively tiny community, that has no effect on citizens.

    Property tax paid on otherwise worthless parcels as a result of grows matters. Joe clock puncher pissing in the ocean to fund big government… fair share… Um hmm. Go away.

  33. Ed
    October 3, 2011 at 9:41 am

    After watching the first part of Ken Burns’ documentary Prohibition on KEET last night, I was struck by the irony that the US government was financed by alcohol taxes until prohibition. That was the beginning of federal income tax.

  34. Cristina Bauss
    October 3, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    To be fair, the first person who misspelled “capital” as “capitol” was Heraldo himself (sorry, H). Bolithio, it’s Google, not “Goggle,” although the Earth does make ME goggle. ;)

    Anyone who doubts that U.S. production of marijuana doesn’t exceed 3,500 tons per year is really living in a bubble. Humboldt County might be known as the “pot capital” because of quality and, ahem, advertising, but in terms of production alone, there are plenty of other places in this country where a LOT more of it is being grown.

  35. October 3, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Actually, I cut and pasted the title of the video as is. I should have included a “[sic].”

  36. tra
    October 3, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Unless I’m butchering the arithmatic, 3,500 tons x 2000 lbs/ton = 7,000,000 lbs. That’s a whole lotta reefer. On the other hand, there are millions of Americans who toke.

    I guess the question is, how much is total annual domestic consumption and what % of that is imported? (And yes, I’m assuming the amount of of U.S.-grown cannabis that is exported to other countries is pretty insignificant).

    At any rate, I doubt Humboldt County accounts for more than maybe one or two percent of total domestic production. Now that’s still a lot from a county that accounts for less than one tenth of 1% of the nation’s population. As far as Humboldt being “the pot capital (or capitol) of the world” that’s obviously more a matter of cultural narrative than any kind of objective measure.

    I’m not in a position to judge the quality of ganja grown in other parts of the globe, but I do think some of our local farmers are growing some of the best ganja in North America.

  37. tra
    October 3, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Christina,

    It looks like you were responding to Ponder z, who cited the 3,500 tons figure as the amount of hashish produced in Afghanistan annually.

    I have no problem believing that Afghanistan is producing far more hashish than the U.S. (apparenntly they supply most of the hashish in Europe). But as you know, here in the U.S hashish is mainly just a byproduct of trimming buds, whereas the main product is the buds themselves.

    So comparing the annual tonnage of hash produced in Afghanistan to the annual tonnage of buds produced here is an apples-to-oranges type situation.

  38. insider
    October 3, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    The “comedian” seems to be good at laughing at his own “jokes.”

  39. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Tax cheats and hypocrites. Pay your fair share includes everyone 9:39.

  40. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Ps if you don’t pay state and federal quarterlies and SS you are a cheat. How the hell is Medical or state parks to remain open? Or running all state and federal programs? Hypocrites. You are part of the problem. Pay you fair share.

  41. Cristina Bauss
    October 3, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Tra, I do understand what you’re telling me, but when Ponder Z writes that “the whole production of the USA is not close to 3500 tons of bud,” it seems like he’s writing about pot, not hash. Then again, maybe my critical-reading skills have been decimated by the brain-fry which is a natural byproduct of studying for a Business Law quiz.

    Have a great night!

  42. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Does that biz law quiz include that you have to pay taxes on money you make?

  43. tra
    October 3, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    You’re right, Christina, it was Ponder z who started mixing the apples and oranges in the first place.

    I’m not sure if “the whole production of the USA is not close to 3,500 tons of bud” as Ponder z claimed. Given the population of the U.S. and the percentage who (will admit to a pollster that they) use cannabis, it does seem possible that folks in the U.S. might consume more than 7 million pounds of buds annually. But from what I read, there’s also still a huge amount coming in from Mexico (and perhaps a significant amount from Canada, too, I don’t know). So I don’t know what percentage of U.S. consumption is supplied by U.S. production, as opposed to imported stuff.

    Seems to me it would be pretty hard to say with any great degree of certainty how much cannabis is produced domestically, since unlike other commodities, the great majority of the cannabis in this country is never counted in any official statistics. So the total amounts consumed, imported and produced domestically can only be estimated, with a good deal of uncertainty as to the accuracy of those estimates.

  44. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    tra

    Jon Gettman’s paper estimates 10,000 metric (11000 short, 22 million lbs). Mexico is allegedly about 15k.

    anonymous keeps ranting about his 16th amendment. Consider what the penalty actually is for failing to report taxes and that for admitting tio growing tens of thousands of dollars in weed. The only reason most people pay taxes is they are penalized if they do not. Some (property owners in humco?) hedge these penalties against current investments.

    Only way your fair share logic will work on the masses is to make the penalty for reporting weed less severe than not.

  45. anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    I’d guess more marijuana is confiscated and destroyed than is consumed. I wouldn’t wanna drive through arizona with california plates and so much as a forgotten roach loose in the car somewhere.

  46. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Thieves, cheats and hypocrites. You folks are right up there with Immelt and GE.

  47. Not A Native
    October 3, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    tra wrote

    I’m not in a position to judge the quality of ganja grown in other parts of the globe, but I do think some of our local farmers are growing some of the best ganja in North America.

    Well its good to read tra finally acknowledge he’s got personal expertise(obviously current and fairly heavy, at times) of pot quality of all North American sources. Since pot quality is subjective, the only way to have a judgement about it is from first hand experience. tra overstepped a need to seek props for waving the flag of localism by having to show he has credible knowledge to judge. Now will come the twisting and misdirecting to deny and distort what his own words are.

  48. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Not A Native it is the best. Where are you from?

  49. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Radio host Fred Meyer crank call to local woman complaining about workers smoking weed at lunch… He asked “where are you from anyway, Redding?”

  50. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Not Fred Meyer that is a store. Pete Meyer.

  51. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Pot costs our community much more than it brings in. The big money leaves here, is sold outside, with no tax dollars brought here. The big trouble associated with it, and the costs involved, do stay and the rest of us pay for it. Go away, pot people and your stinky dreads.

  52. Load Me Another
    October 3, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    The hell with all this arguing. Where can purchase 100 contracts of December So Hum Sinsemilla, stat?? Maybe some call options? C’mon, let’s really control the market ya’ll.

  53. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    The hidta (high intentensity drug trafficking agency) estimates 2009 California at 49,000 metric tons.
    http://www.katiearnoldi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Marijuana-Production-in-California.pdf

  54. anonymous #5
    October 3, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    6:26 okay you win this thread with stinky dreads

  55. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    6:26. Right on.

  56. October 3, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    6:26 is wrong.

    Lots of businesses in Humboldt (not just Arcata and Eureka) are laundromats. Such a high percentage of laundromats that our clothes are almost too clean. The employees of the laundromats pay income taxes. The owners of the laundromats pay taxes. Both pay into SS. All pay sales and property taxes. It is so, because if it were not so there would be no need for so many laundromats.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  57. Anonymous
    October 3, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    anonymous @ 5:07 says: “I’d guess more marijuana is confiscated and destroyed than is consumed”
    I’d guess you’re wrong. I’d guess less than 10% is confiscated and/or destroyed.

  58. Anonymous#1
    October 3, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    All those pot dollars that the wealth creators in the pot trade put into the community and circulate to those 3 to 5 other people get taxed numerous times through income taxes, SS taxes, city and state taxes. A huge multiplier effect you could say. Without that, where would our community be in these trying economic times.

  59. Anonymous
    October 4, 2011 at 7:40 am

    Pot growers are job creators? You folks are on crack too.

  60. Anonymous
    October 4, 2011 at 7:53 am

    pot growers are the biggest job creators in Humboldt County. Ask any store owner, real estate broker, car dealer, entrepreneur, cop, service industry worker or grocer.

  61. Anonymous
    October 4, 2011 at 8:15 am

    Stoned? High? Or simply deluded? Take your pick since they all apply.

  62. Plain Jane
    October 4, 2011 at 8:32 am

    9:15 is still living in the right wing supply-side fantasy world where business owners create jobs that don’t require customers. It’s inability to logically articulate this belief is why it is reduced to accusing anyone who doesn’t of being on drugs.

  63. Plain Jane
    October 4, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Oops, make that 8:15, please.

  64. October 4, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Government (and tax subsidized non profits) are the biggest job creators in Humboldt, Pot is the biggest private sector job creator.

    Isn’t it amazing how many die hard right wingers make their living sucking off the taxpayers teats? They either work directly for the gov or their little companies survive on government contracts.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  65. Captain Obvious
    October 4, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Speaking of people paying their “fair share of taxes….”

    Here’s something that Democrats and Republicans can agree on.

    It’s time for non-profits and churches to start paying their “fair share” of taxes. These businesses and organisations are taxpayer subsidized in the same way that government is subsidized by the taxpayer. In the case of non-profits and churches this subsidy is in the form of negative taxation.

  66. High Finance
    October 4, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Disagree Captain.

    Many of the non profits and churches do good work that frees the government from providing those services. They do it better and more efficiently and cheaper than government can.

  67. Not A Native
    October 4, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Advocates that say untaxed pot producers are good for the community because they create jobs are in full agreement with Republicans that say taxation on corporations harms the public for the same reason.

    Its real easy to say if only I’m not taxed, I’ll spend that extra money on things that people will be employed to provide. That sounds good until you realize that the end result is that I have more stuff(become wealthy) and everyone else is essentially working for me and has to have less than I do(relatively poor). And thats the real goal of those who feel they’re special and entitled to not pay taxes, creating an economic structure with them at the top.

  68. tra
    October 4, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Well I think it would obviously be better for the community and the larger society if growers could contribute more to income taxes, and were paying social security taxes for their workers, etc., not just paying property and sales taxes.

    But due to Prohibition, in order to “show” their income that way, growers would have to essentially be laundering their money through other businesses, and that laundering can expose them to additional legal repercussions. So as long as Prohibition remains the barrier that it is, a lot of potential tax revenues from income and social security taxes is being lost.

    And though ending Prohibition is the rational thing to do (for so many different reason), unfortunately mainstream American culture’s attitude toward cannabis remains deeply irrational, and the process of changing those attitudes remains slow.

    In the meantime, at least the county and state are getting the property taxes and sales taxes and the local economy is getting the infusion of cash from out of the area. It’s not an ideal situation, but on balance it does seem to me that the county as a whole is better off with this economic engine than without it.

  69. Captain Obvious
    October 4, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    No HF who ever you are, we peasants are getting hip to the non-profit scam.

    Take Arkley and the Pacific Legal Foundation. Arkley makes a big contribution to the PLF and then he gets a big tax write-off for a “charitable donation” and then a little down the road he gets a first class legal representation on his issues and suits for free.

    First he gets a tax write off, then the Pacific Legal Foundation operates tax free (subsidized by the taxpayers) and finally his cases get partially funded by the other (suckers) who have donated to PLF. win-win-win a triple play for ole Rob. Talk about leverage.

    Meanwhile the taxpayers take a double hit on the donation write offs and the negative taxation of the non profit.

    It is time to tax the nonprofits and churches.

  70. Not A Native
    October 4, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    HumCo voted against prop 19, with SoHum voting much more in opposition. Does that mean SoHum is more ‘mainstream American culture’ than the rest of the county and State? Guess it does… But forget about the facts, it just feels good to scapegoat and blame ‘the other guy’.

  71. Plain Jane
    October 4, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    The president of NORML said years ago in an interview that what was standing in the way of pot legalization was the people who grow and sell don’t want it legalized and the people who buy and smoke spend all their extra money on pot so can’t fund a campaign.

    Does anyone believe legalization won’t result in a price crash? How would that affect the county’s businesses and govt. revenues? Non-growing pot smokers would have a little more money until their jobs ended due to the county-wide depression, what then? How many properties’ taxes are paid with pot money? What percentage of real estate, retail, restaurants, medical, etc. does pot money support? Is there anyone whose income isn’t at least partially supported by illegal pot sales?

  72. October 4, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    “It’s time for non-profits and churches to start paying their “fair share” of taxes.” Capt. Obvious

    Non-profits? What would you tax?
    Churches? Have you thought that through?

    I thought I heard of some clause or another separating oil from water, I mean church from state.

  73. October 4, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    PJ, of course the price of pot would drop if the
    price support group (cops) were removed from the equation.
    There would be a dramatic effect on our local economy.
    Talk to the idiots that supported the drug wars- Harpham,
    Farmer, Clinton, HCSO…. ad nauseam.

    Aren’t they responsible for the cumulative effect?

    Or is it the poor saps that are jailed in our gulags
    for dealing with it?

  74. anonymous #5
    October 4, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    tra exactly right on the showing where the money came from. A collective founder was sentenced for tax crimes and was ordered to pay $14k in unpaid taxes along with 2 years probation. Disparity between that and federal drug sentencing is why growers fail to file. If federal penalties for marijuana were eliminated, growers would file taxes to avoid the monetary penalties, probation, and hassle.

  75. anonymous #5
    October 4, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    IRS audited harborside for $2.4 million.

  76. October 4, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    The Chronicle calls Harborside “one of the largest dispensaries in the world.”

    Article: Oakland pot dispensary gets $2.5M tax bill

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