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Occupiers retake courthouse lawn

After the raid early Monday morning, supporters of the #Occupy movement are back at the Humboldt County Courthouse.

Photo from the NCJ’s Andrew Goff.  Follow him on Twitter — he’s there now live tweeting the action.

  1. November 7, 2011 at 7:09 pm
  2. November 7, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Tweets Andrew:

    “EPD officer informs me they have no plans on removing protesters. “We’re just trying to keep the road clear.” Camping=no. Protesting=cool.”

  3. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    The Times-Standard’s “breaking news” about this evening’s festivities ends with this juicy morsel:

    Scanner traffic indicated officers on scene were requesting more officers and more handcuffs.

    http://www.times-standard.com/breakingnews/ci_19285040

  4. November 7, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Stay non-violent people.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  5. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Good advice, Bill, very good advice.

  6. November 7, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Via Goff: “All officers silently entering cop cars and leaving without incident. ‘Thank you for being peaceful’ shout from protester.”

  7. November 7, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Excellent. Yes, stay non-violent. We need you there.

  8. Mitch
    November 7, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Caption for photo of first comment:

    The Thin Poo Line

  9. November 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Haha! Like.

  10. dtowns
    November 7, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Please remember we don’t want to give them the satisfaction of seeing us loss control…all we want is a level playing field…”keep your eyes on the prize” and if there are only brave souls out there who want to help organize and keep us focused on our goals we sure could use you…

    peace always-no excuses

    debbie

  11. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    So as I understand it, the current situation is this: Law enforcement is saying that people can protest all night, but they can’t “camp” there. The protesters are saying they’re going to stay all night, and presumably they’re not planning on freezing to death.

    I’m not sure of the exact legal definition of “camping” that the EPD is using, but it seems like under the current policy of EPD, the one thing that is clear is that tents are not allowed. I’m not so sure about sleeping bags — I assume a protester can have one draped around their shoulders for warmth, but can they sit in one, zipped-up, as long as they’re awake, as long as they’re not stretched out in it, sleeping?

    Is it the act of falling asleep that makes it illegal camping, or is the offense actually the intent to fall asleep and/or the making of preparations to try to do so somewhat comfortably?

    And I wonder whether lawn chairs will be deemed by the powers-that-be to be consistent with participation in a constitutionally-protected “protest” or “vigil” as opposed to being equipment that implicates you in participating in an “illegal encampment.”

    Unless the protesters start setting up tents, I’m not sure what EPD is going to do…have 12 cops in riot gear stand by at all times, 24/7, for the forseeable future, just in case a protester lies down or dozes off, or gets a little too comfy in a lawn chair?

    It seems to me that this “negotiation” (if you want to call it that) between the city/county and the protesters, over the use of this public space, is not really resolved yet. It’s looking like one side or the other may seek to test those limits a bit more tonight. We shall see.

  12. November 7, 2011 at 8:10 pm
  13. dtowns
    November 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    excuse my lack of editing did’nt notice untill it was too late!

  14. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    And here we go — it looks like the EPD is going to try to equate any kind of keeping warm and dry with “illegal camping.”

    Andrew Goff
    Three EPD officers return tell protester he can’t sit under a blanket. “Camping, under covers: same thing.” #occupyeureka
    1 minute ago

    http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupyeureka

    Does it make a difference if the blanket is around your shouders like a cape, or is that prohibited the same as if the blanket is across your lap?

    And what if you’re standing, rather than sitting — can you then have a blanket wrapped around you, or is that a non-no, too?

    And if a blanket makes it “camping” because you’re “under covers,” wouldn’t an umbrella fit the same definition?

  15. jr
    November 7, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Then does that mean that spectators at Eureka High’s football game cannot bring blankets? If EPD is arresting people at 5th and I streets for such behavior then they will have to do it the same thing at Albee Stadium.

  16. Load Me Another
    November 7, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Tibetan monks just said the hell with it and set themselves on fire. So much for keeping warm…

  17. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    More recently, the guy who set himself on fire in Tunisia played a major role in sparking the whole Arab Spring phenomenon.

  18. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Unfortunate pun unintended.

  19. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Wool and fleece clothing, warm winter coats and hats and so on can keep folks warm without a blanket — but not in a downpour. Fortunately it’s dry at the moment.

  20. Anonymous
    November 7, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Well Tra la la, if you are such a smart cookie why not take your sleeping bag down there and climb in? Then see what happens and you can see if you are right or the cops are right?!

    To what purpose is it to hang out there all night? Not much traffic at midnight. If you halfwits had a brain you’d show up at around 8:00 am and stay till dark. But after all you are half wits.

    Eureka temperature is supposed to get down to 35 degrees tonight! Enjoy yourself losers.

    o

  21. BB Stanks
    November 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    “Heraldo says:
    November 7, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Photo: Eureka Police guarding US Bank.”

    Question; where do the police go potty?

  22. November 7, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Lots of traffic on the Humboldt Herald today. The Occupy situation continues to draw lots of attention locally.

  23. tra
    November 7, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    forestdefender Rick Shreve
    2 more arrests at #OccupyEureka
    16 minutes ago

    http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23occupyeureka

  24. What Now
    November 7, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    And High Finanace just got his view back.
    Bet he’s spittin’ fire……

  25. Walt
    November 8, 2011 at 6:12 am

    http://www.npr.org/2011/11/08/141952709/in-spain-low-wages-become-increasingly-common

    I think this is the reason for the interest in Occupy: people are starting to get this is OUR future under the Corporatocracy.

  26. Bolithio
    November 8, 2011 at 6:39 am

    With any luck the Kings and Queens of Eureka may relinquish their crowns and end the brutal era of oppression we have all had to live through.

  27. Scab
    November 8, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Good work servants. We have a place for you in government union work. The brotherhood welcomes all controlling interests, violent or not. Pensions for all occupiers!

  28. November 8, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Dave Meserve was…. there–supportive as always—not violent but

    supportive!!!!!

  29. November 8, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Here’s a couple of interesting articles on the issue of the Homeless and the Occupiers:

    Throw Them Out With the Trash: Why Homelessness Is Becoming an Occupy Wall Street Issue: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/23-3

    Barbara Ehrenreich, Homeless in America:
    http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175457/tomgram%3A_barbara_ehrenreich%2C_homeless_in_america/

  30. yep
    November 8, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    How much money would each and every individual of the 400 million people living in this country get, if we were to receive an equal cut of SEVENTY FIVE TRILLION dollars? I’ll settle for half that if I can get cash in one lump sum, yes, please. You wanna stimulate the economy, give me more money, because I spend all mine every month and so does everybody I know and that’s all the stimulation we can provide.

  31. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    So, pooping on our local branch only causes local pain for those who are already struggling to keep their jobs. Literally pooping does nothing to fix or help the problem and is only an act of irresponsible, vulgar, and juvenile harassment.

  32. yep
    November 8, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    “only causes local pain for those who are already struggling to keep their jobs.”

    Yep, and if you kill trees or grow weed and suddenly it’s worth nothing, tough shit as well. Do you see how it works?

    Certain businesses have become so unpopular that people all over the nation have started vandalizing them. There are also crowds of people peacefully coming together to denounce those businesses. Do you frequent one of those businesses? How did they get to be so unpopular?

  33. back in the saddle
    November 8, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Because you don’t work for those businesses?

  34. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Yes, I have money in a local but national bank, one of your hated ones. I also have stock in it. My nephew and his family depend on the job he has there. I can’t agree with everything they do but they do help our locals and to shit on the stairs in classless.

  35. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Killing trees which will grow back, if done carefully and not clearcut doesn’t bother me. I support the legalization of marijuana, but not the indoor grows.

  36. Mitch
    November 8, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    This hasn’t happened in a while, but I agree completely with an Anonymous, at 4:26. Taking a dump at an ATM (or leaving one there) is the sort of thing that may give a juvenile who’s fed up with banks momentary satisfaction, or may be an effective technique deployed by police to get an excuse to take action, or reporters who want to generate a story.

    It leaves at least two messes behind to be cleaned up.

    The first is the literal mess. Who do you think will be cleaning the crap up, the bank CEO? It’s going to be some custodian or teller, and they are most definitely part of the 99%, and they will most definitely not be moved to support the Occupy movement after having to clean up.

    The second is the publicity mess. The media will ALWAYS focus on the idiots who do this sort of damage. Every time it happens, it eats away at the good work done by many others. If the juvie who did this thought they were helping OWS, they’re wrong — they seriously hurt the effort. Not because the act itself was so horrific, but because it takes attention away from the serious issues, and it paints those who are trying to put attention on the serious issues in a bad light.

    The thing is, there’s always going to be kids who don’t understand this. And there will always be cops and reporters who are willing to pretend to be such kids, if the kids themselves don’t move their bowels fast enough.

    Let’s see the surveillance video. We all know it exists.

    And let’s return the focus to some inarguable facts.

    Tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people in cities across the country and around the world are finally standing up to stop the slide to destruction that the banksters have been profiting from. They/we include Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans, workers of every type, and those who are unemployed. There’s a reason people are finally speaking up, and the reason is the nearly unimaginable destruction that our current system has wrought. Yes, some people are engaging in stupid acts — the vast majority of people who associate with OWS try to prevent or mitigate those acts. That is simple fact.

  37. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Agreed. Those few who stoop to such practices and also stop traffic, intimidate those who would otherwise support them don’t understand the damage to this important movement.

  38. Plain Jane
    November 8, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Perfectly expressed, Mitch. Now let’s see the videos.

  39. Anonymous
    November 8, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Let’s see the surveillance video. We all know it exists.

  40. November 8, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    SPECIAL TOPIC
    Occupy Atlanta Encamps In Neighborhood To Save Police Officer’s Home From Foreclosure

    http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/11/08/363692/occupy-atlanta-encamps-in-neighborhood-to-save-police-officers-home-from-foreclosure

  41. jr
    November 8, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Richard: Thanks for sharing this video. Now what can we do about this? It seems that every proposal put forth by the Obama administration either gets shot down or dies for inaction. And so the stand-off continues and things continue to get worse and worse.

  42. Anonymosity
    November 8, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    BE INFORMED PEOPLE!!!

  43. Goldie
    November 8, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    JR,, This is what I think we should do. Every politician we send to Washington gets sort of funky along the way and forgets to represent the people. We need to remember that we vote every time we spend a dollar. The bank transfer does hurt the banks. Our deposits are the grease the banks run on in oder to meet their risk to cash ratio. Every dollar is a vote. Every dollar is a vote. There are also groups around the country that make a fuss at foreclosures which does help some. Encouraging people to speak out about the way they are treated during attempts to refinance their homes, many just feel ashamed when they fall prey to the swamp of deceit.
    There are many things to do. Find something that fits your skills or support groups that are doing what you do not have time to do. I have just sent money to Iraq Veterans for Peace as they are showing up to support OWS. Their presence is a powerful statement about standing up to our rights as citizens.

  44. November 8, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Here’s an old Vietnam Vet who supports OWS as well. And I have a home, bought and paid for!

  45. Reality Check
    November 9, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Are crowds of people protesting your business? Do you work at a business being frowned upon by large groups all across the country? Sometimes even vandalized? Tell your boss’s boss to make some big changes, maybe even find another job before he fires you for suggesting the company is up to no good.

  46. Fact Checker
    November 9, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Fannie Mae Says It Needs $7.8 Billion Additional Government Welfare Assistance ($7,800,000,000.00)

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203733504577026541729186910.html

    “The top six executives at the mortgage giants earned $35 million in the last two years, according to the report from the inspector general of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which regulates the mortgage giants… The firms were taken over by the government in 2008 and have cost taxpayers $134 billion.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576235604048603960.html

  47. November 13, 2011 at 9:20 am

    You can explain the current situation with a simple equation – math simple enough so even someone innumerate like High Findunce can understand it.

    Highest unemployment in 70 years = highest corporate profits of all time.

    So tell me where is the incentive to “create jobs?”

    Pretty simple, the incentive is to keep unemployment high and keep wages low.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

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