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N17: Humboldt joins National Day of Action

[Press release from the local chapter of MoveOn]

As part of a national “day of action,” Humboldt citizens will join those in over 300 communities across the US who are concerned about our faltering economy, lack of jobs, and ageing public infrastructure. Locally, there will be an event at the Eureka Slough Bridge on Highway 101 at 2:00 PM on Thursday, November 17th.

Following two months of Occupy actions, the 1% is starting to pay attention. But the system is still rigged against us: Wall Street is still making billions and taking our homes, and Congress can’t pass a jobs bill. To amplify the economic emergency, we are making Thursday, November 17, a massive day of action to show “We Are The 99%.

In big cities, suburbs, and small towns, we are declaring an economic emergency at the very places that can put America back to work: our crumbling bridges, understaffed schools, and other sites that represent a failed economy.

Instead of cuts, we need immediate investment in our ageing infrastructure to facilitate commerce, create jobs, and stimulate the economy. The Eureka Slough Bridge is a good local example of a project that needs funding. This bridge is over 55 years old, and has seriously deteriorated. It’s replacement would create jobs, and ensure public safety.

In less than one week, the Super Committee will unveil their deficit reduction plan. Instead of focusing on creating jobs and making the rich pay their fair share, all indications are that Congress will once again protect the 1% at the expense of the 99%—unleashing up to $1.2 trillion in vicious, job-killing cuts that could hit Medicare, Social Security, and other programs the middle class relies on.

MoveOn is joining with Occupy Wall Street, and progressive allies like SEIU, AFL-CIO, and many more for a national “We Are the 99%” day of action on November 17. Together, we’ll demand that Congress and the Super Committee tax Wall Street to create millions of jobs and rebuild our economy for the 99%.

What Eureka Day of Action
When Thursday, November 17th 2:00 PM
Where At the approach to the Eureka Slough Bridge, on Hwy 101 North

We will be standing behind a guardrail on the bike path and will be highly visible to hundreds of cars. Directions Parking is on 6th Street North of V Street and before the gas station. We are walking down the bike trail, along the hwy, one block to the bridge approach.

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MORE: Occupy Wall Street Gears Up for the Big Day

  1. Ponder z
    November 16, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    OMG this is getting good. Now you waaa waaa crybabies want the government to stop taking your homes and give you a job? Just go out and get a job! Pay for your home, and shut the fuck up. The bridge is retrofitted every time some new law is passed and we get the pork sent home. Waaa waaa waaa. I am a high school grad and have been working for 38 years. All that time, and I have had many jobs, but allways employed. While you crybabyies were “protesting” the last two month, I have earned $9000. On a job and new carrier I started 14 month ago.
    PS. I don’t smoke dope!

  2. editortipe
    November 16, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Aging…not ageing…hard to take a press release seriously with typos…

  3. Plain Jane
    November 16, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Ageing is proper spelling as is aging. It’s hard to take an “editortipe” seriously who doesn’t know this.

  4. November 16, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Social Security has nothing to do with the debt. It is funded for the next 25 years and continues to be funded by a separate deduction from our employers and workers through our paychecks. Self employed persons pay the full amount and people that work for municipalities and local governments may have other arrangements and have opted out of the system and that doesn’t concern Social Security.

    Cutting Social Security does nothing to bring down the debt and anyone that says it does is not being truthful.

  5. Seageezer
    November 16, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Let me get this straight. We continue to de-fund education, lay off teachers, increase class size, etc. Then there is a grassroots movement protest this (and other things) and you quibble about an alleged spelling mistake because the author did not meet your standards of literacy? Hard to take you seriously.

  6. Another 2 cents
    November 16, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    Garberville -bridge over 101…………..2:00 sounds good! Bring BIG banner like signs.We can cover North and South bound.

    I will see you there!

  7. Richard
    November 17, 2011 at 12:32 am

    Last week, shocking video taken at UC Berkeley showed police striking apparently peaceful protesters with batons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNqe3ozV5yc&feature=related

    Robert Reich memorial lecture Tuesday night on activist Mario Savio and his 1964 speech that became iconic of the campus free speech movement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xM67eImqdc

    This image from Seattle of Dorli Rainey, taken by Joshua Trujillo:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062097/Occupy-Seattle-Police-pepper-spray-elderly-pregnant-protesters.html

    And in Portland:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/11/art_appraiser_81_swept_up_in_a.html

    Meanwhile the Humboldt County Board of Supervisors has erected a fence to protect their lawn and deny us our Constitutional Rights.

    Come stand with Occupy at 2:pm at the Bridge and all day at the Eureka Courthouse and at the very least, between 5-6:pm at the courthouse.

  8. Ponder z
    November 17, 2011 at 5:36 am

    Of the 99%, 80% don’t like you protesters. You are on the edge, spouting your communist overthrow of our capitalist system. Most people don’t like communism. Or they don’t know the truth because they are to busy smoking dope to comprehend it.

  9. Anonymous
    November 17, 2011 at 6:11 am

    Idiots. If a Eureka Slough bridge project were proposed today by the city/county/Cal Trans these same protesters would protest the project NS BRING IT TO A HALT WITH LAWSUITS.

  10. TR Jackson
    November 17, 2011 at 6:21 am

    GREAT point Seageezer!. People whine and moan, watch their country get sold down the river, and yet when a movement finally tries to start, all they seem to see are the young bohemians who force them to walk an extra 20 feet to get their Starbucks. What a society!

  11. November 17, 2011 at 6:27 am

    …these same protesters would protest the project NS BRING IT TO A HALT WITH LAWSUITS.

    So true! lol

  12. Mitch
    November 17, 2011 at 6:31 am
  13. Get Real
    November 17, 2011 at 6:44 am

    “We need immediate investment in our ageing infrastructure to facilitate commerce, create jobs, and stimulate the economy. The Eureka Slough Bridge is a good local example of a project that needs funding.”
    Richardson’s Grove is another good local example. But these same morons jump up and down and shake their fists at the sky any time some mentions improvements there.

  14. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 7:03 am

    You can see we’re winning when trolls feel so threatened that they feel the need to come here and post their same old, worn out, pathetic straw man smears completely unrelated to the issue.

  15. Decline To State
    November 17, 2011 at 7:05 am

    The Eureka Slough Bridge is a good local example of a project that needs funding. This bridge is over 55 years old, and has seriously deteriorated.

    Maybe I’m confused about which bridge we’re talking about here but if memory serves Caltrans spent many months a few years ago repairing, improving and painting the highway bridge crossing the Eureka Slough.

    I don’t wish to undermine the message here and understand the point of having this event. I’m very sympathetic. I’m just wondering about the use of this specific bridge as a symbol of what needs to be done.

  16. Ben
    November 17, 2011 at 7:12 am

    Let me get it clear, disrupting traffic at 2:00 on the Eureka Slough Bridge will bring a change in national policy? Somehow this is a desperate attempt to get on the news and piss off a lot of working folks who just want to get home or to work. Just can not see how this will change anything but fill more jail cells.

  17. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 7:20 am

    Let me get it clear, Ben. What part of standing behind a guard rail holding signs do you think is going to disrupt traffic and get people arrested?

  18. Ben
    November 17, 2011 at 7:59 am

    There are no pedestrian areas behind the guard rail on the bridge.

  19. November 17, 2011 at 8:05 am

    There are no pedestrian areas behind the guard rail on the bridge.

    I’ll have to take a closer look next time I drive over it. I know there’s not much room there and the few times I’ve walked over that bridge it seemed kind of scary to me. Does it even have a guard rail?

  20. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 8:14 am

    You’re right, Ben, that there isn’t a guard rail NOW, but it sounds like there are plans to create a temporary one for people to stand behind on the bridge sidewalk and bike path. Or do you have another take on what “We will be standing behind a guardrail on the bike path” means?

  21. Load Me Another
    November 17, 2011 at 8:14 am

    When I’m upset over my water bill I just take it down to the 101 bridge by Target…north or southbound, it doesn’t matter because I know that’s how to effect a solutuion and raise awareness of my goal of becoming a victim. Very effective indeed. In fact, I think I deserve a raise $$ so I’ll leave work early today and join you all. My sign will say, “Will work for $100,000 a year.” Maybe one of you will get to ride in a squad car with me and maybe share a jail cell too. Gonna be a big day for sure!

  22. Ben
    November 17, 2011 at 8:21 am

    So standing on a bridge will bring more change than in front of the Courthouse? The fact that people are standing on the bridge will cause traffic problems and just will serve as another way to distance the protesters from regular folks, the basis of change.
    I just do not believe that making regular folks lives difficult to protest some rich people elsewhere is a smart move.

  23. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 8:30 am

    And I just do not believe that people standing on a bridge will make life difficult for anyone, Ben. I can’t be there due to work demands, but they have my support. What are you doing to effect change besides criticizing all attempts to do so?

  24. Anonymous
    November 17, 2011 at 8:31 am

    I want to know where that Z dude is building her carrier. What will the new carrier carry and why would I care about how much money he earned in the past 2 months? Someone tell this misguided individual that the Communist threat went down with the Berlin Wall.

  25. Ben
    November 17, 2011 at 8:35 am

    I pick my battles and if you knew me you would know that I have been working in the community for decades. I believe that you can be the most effective if you work to improve your local community and the lives of those you touch on a daily basis.

  26. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 8:41 am

    That is highly commendable, Ben. But unfortunately improving local communities doesn’t end corporate control of our government or do anything to address the gross income inequality that is destroying the working classes which, I presume, you need as consumers of your products in to stay in business and continue your work to improve our community. Or is your product something only the rich can buy?

  27. Goldie
    November 17, 2011 at 8:52 am

    There is no ‘one way’ to create a more just world. Our existence is created from a million tiny actions everyday. I don’t think we have to make life difficult for anyone in order to make a difference.

  28. Jethro Bodeen
    November 17, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Since it’s raining will we be BBQ-ing under the bridge today? I didn’t understand the flyer ’cause of all them tanks, but is it bring your own steak day? Can I bring the wild game I ran over last night, that ok? Last I checked, trolls live under bridges so ya’ll bring a big troll gun and we’ll have great BBQ!

  29. November 17, 2011 at 8:57 am

    It looks like that portion of the Democratic Party represented by the Move On faction has reached the same conclusion that many of us have, and that is that our current problems cannot be fixed by pure electoral action alone. It will require action in the streets – non-violent to be sure – to get the job done.

    We have suffered a coup d’ etat in America in the last decades. It is a corporate coup d’etat that has struck down democracy in any meaningful form.

    Thanks Move On Dems for joining in and good luck on the bridge today.

    Just to be clear I speak for myself, I do not represent Occupy. I do support them at present and I will as long as they don’t veer into any fascist direction.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  30. anonymous
    November 17, 2011 at 9:21 am

    taking responsibility as neighbors and community members for our “trip” whatever that may be ultimately weakens the local system because we no longer participate as a broken citizenry pitted against one another. the less we need from walmart the less we participate as consumers. this feels like a “back to the land” movement but the “land” is in your soul.

    this is a multi faceted movement, some will participate by changing one little thing that is unacceptable about their life, some will change their bank, some will protest on a bridge, regardless there is a lot of little change going on and the massive unity is a big change.

    many of us were inspired by “hope and change” many of us still had hope that the broken system could be changed from inside, now we see that the change is all of our responsibility and the a unified effort gives me hope.

  31. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Well said, 9:21.

  32. Anonymous
    November 17, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Jane, you ignorant ………………

    No one is taking my house

    And I think Ponder z has it wrong! I think 90 to 95% of the 99% don’t like the protesters!

    Hey protesters, the world, the government doesn’t owe you a living. Take some responsibility for your own life/situation.

  33. anotheranon
    November 17, 2011 at 9:44 am

    I know Ben. He is active in his community. He participates in many warm and fuzzy projects that all the community agrees will benefit the community. But Ben, this is bigger than that. Reach another level higher and do something that won’t get your name and smiling face in the paper on the social page. This will take more work than a new park or a winning soccer team. But if the point can eventually be made, we can return to being warm and fuzzy with nice parks and clean communities. This, too, is in the community interest.

  34. November 17, 2011 at 9:45 am

    “It was only a matter of time before a coordinated police crackdown was imposed to end the Occupy encampments. Law enforcement officials and policy-makers in America know full well that serious protests — and more — are inevitable given the economic tumult and suffering the U.S. has seen over the last three years (and will continue to see for the foreseeable future). A country cannot radically reduce quality-of-life expectations, devote itself to the interests of its super-rich, and all but eliminate its middle class without triggering sustained citizen fury.”

    “The reason the U.S. has para-militarized its police forces is precisely to control this type of domestic unrest, and it’s simply impossible to imagine its not being deployed in full against a growing protest movement aimed at grossly and corruptly unequal resource distribution.” My sentiments, compliments of Glenn Greenwald and his article: OWS-inspired activism.

  35. interstate media school of fish
    November 17, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Wow, Load Me Another, for somebody who doesn’t give a shit, you sure waste a lot of time giving a shit.

  36. November 17, 2011 at 10:02 am

    SUPPORT LINDA–SHE IS NOW THE SCAPEGOAT.

  37. November 17, 2011 at 10:08 am

    SUPORT LINDA–SHE NEEDS SUPPORT!!!

  38. High Finance
    November 17, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Linda belongs in jail.

    I think we should all be prepared for the end. Stock up food and water as the government will fall and our entire system will be overturned after the Humboldt bums protest today.

  39. Parkly
    November 17, 2011 at 10:57 am

    hi fidelity wants to throw the only (real) elected democrat in eureka in jail?

    that next school board election is gonna be a barn burner, yeeeee howdy!

  40. First Amendment
    November 17, 2011 at 11:08 am

    High Traitor said:
    November 17, 2011 at 10:09 am

    “Linda belongs in jail.”

    APD Chief Tom Chapman also.

  41. High Finance
    November 17, 2011 at 11:20 am

    “Parkly” or whoever you are, you have no idea who I am.

  42. High Finance
    November 17, 2011 at 11:21 am

    But I know who you are.

  43. Beyond Annoyed
    November 17, 2011 at 11:30 am

    So why don’t all you 1% demonstrators pool your welfare cks that the rest of us are working to support you with & take a bus to protest at the White House or Congress. You want to be effective do it somewhere where it might actually be an inconvenience to someone who has control of “the power”.

  44. Parkly
    November 17, 2011 at 11:39 am

    so sorry that the idea of being opposed in an election disturbs you so much, hi fidelity.

    maybe by next election you can find a way to outlaw any opposition and you can run unopposed. it works in Syria. At least so far.

  45. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Awakened voters have control of the power when they realize it, Annoyed, and they live everywhere.

  46. High Finance
    November 17, 2011 at 11:46 am

    You would like that Josh, wouldn’t you ? But the joke is on you as I’m not running for anything.

  47. OneTwo
    November 17, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Okay folks stand back, Big Boss Man is about to fly in and save Metropolis. I can smell his breath.

  48. Sick of it
    November 17, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Way to go protesters! Block traffic to those trying to get to a job, home to their families and picking up kids from school. Don’t like Wall Street, corporate greed and big banks? Here’s an idea: stop supporting them. Pull your money out of banks and put it in a credit union, your mattress or in a coffee can buried in the woods. Stop wearing clothing made by Levi’s or any other corporation in textiles. Don’t erect tents on public property or use camping equipment made by Columbia, REI, Coleman, etc. And make sure that you don’t support any incumbents in our current government-STARTING with the jackass PRESIDENT that signed the executive order for bailouts in the first place!!

  49. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Is there a law against releasing non-confidential information, HiFi?

  50. Sick of it
    November 17, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Oh yeah..forgot to add: don’t accept any government handouts…that includes welfare, student grants, food stamps, subsidized housing and Medi-Cal!

  51. Anonymous
    November 17, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Sick of [**]it, you are proposing that people in need just lay themselves down and die. How Fkg stupid!

  52. High Finance
    November 17, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    No PJ and that may keep her safe from legal action.

    But so far there is a descrepancy between her story and that of the campers, bloggers and T/S. But it is obvious that she warned the campers the cops were coming and gave them time to call in more people and make the situation more dangerous.

    At the very least that will end all speculation that she might have a chance in the next election.

  53. tra
    November 17, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Hi Fi said: “Linda belongs in jail.”

    You’ve made similar statements on previous threads, but when challenged you could not point to any actual violation of the law, so I’m just gonna go ahead and file this under “B” for “Bullshit.”

  54. Sick of it
    November 17, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    I’m saying put your money (or whatever you have) where your mouth is. Walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

  55. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    HiFi is just demonstrating his fascist tendencies. Anyone who does anything he doesn’t like belongs in jail, laws be damned.

    In fact, Linda not only didn’t tell the campers when they would be rousted, she didn’t know herself. She told them they WOULD be rousted and soon because their encampment was illegal. What they did with that information, leave to avoid arrest or call for more campers, is irrelevant in judging her actions.

  56. Plain Jane
    November 17, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    “At the very least that will end all speculation that she might have a chance in the next election.”

    Which ends all doubt as to why the EPD and you are smearing her.

  57. tra
    November 17, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    In a military situation, warning the “enemy” that troops are coming certainly creates a more dangerous situation for the troops, but quite the opposite is true when dealing with civil protests, including those that may involve civil disobedience.

    Protesters who are aware that a “raid” is coming may increase their numbers, increasing the time it takes to remove them, but it also allows them time to organize a more peaceful and orderly form of resistance, whereas a “suprise attack,” especially in the middle of the night, is virtually guaranteed to create a much more chaotic situation.

    If the cops’ goal was a more orderly, peaceful eviction, they would have announced exactly when they were coming, would have done it in broad daylight, dispersed those who would disperse and arrested those who wouldn’t, and erected the fence at that time. Instead, they opted for a “suprise attack” in the middle of the night that yielded a chaotic confrontation and some arrests, while failing to secure the area from being re-occupied, leading to the need to go back a second time a few days later, with more chaotic confrontation and twice as many arrests.

    Which leads to the question: Was their choice of how to handle this a matter of incompetence, was it because a paramilitary approach has become sort of a “default setting” for how to deal with protesters, was it just a better way to milk more overtime from the City budget, or was it a deliberate attempt to create a chaotic atmosphere in order to try to discredit the movement?

  58. Beyond Annoyed
    November 17, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    I believe their choice of time was ideal for not inconveinencing the rest of us in our morning commute, just like the recent middle of the night road construction. That would also make it safer for the demonstrators not running out into traffic & causing/having an accident.

  59. Silkie Sullivan
    November 17, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    TRA the answer is neither incompentence (though Harpham is certainly incompetent) or the paramilitary approach (though a small faction of EPD imagine themselves to be some kind of SEAL team) the true answer is that this is simply Murl Harpham’s modus operandi. He always attacks at night, out of the eye of any independent media, and he always tries to terrorize. Simpy put Murl Harpham is a terrorist thug. He has been using the same tactics for years against homeless encampments. He and his gang of thugs slice up the tents (sometimes wiht terrified families inside) with hunting knives, threaten the homeless and drive them off without their belongings. What is left is torn up and scattered by these police thugs and then some tame media is brought in at daylight and is shown how the homeless have “trashed the balloon tract” or wherever. This has been going on for decades, and you know it. SHAME ON YOU.

  60. interstate media school of fish
    November 17, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    If the new “sick of it” and “beyond annoyed” are in fact sincerely as frustrated as they claim to be by the presence of protesters at the courthouse, they’re case studies for emotional instability.

  61. High Finance
    November 17, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    TRA, the early morning raid was to minimize the number of campers there and to reduce the chances of problems. A mid day arrest would have brought more protestors and snarled traffic downtown for hours.

    The campers were not interested in a “more orderly, peaceful eviction”. That would not have brought them the attention they crave.

  62. Percy
    November 17, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Hifi, does posting your idiotic crap on here bring you the attention you crave?

  63. High Finance
    November 17, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Does yours ?

  64. Seageezer
    November 17, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    I just got back from the Eureka Slough Bridge Event. Upwards of 40 hearty souls braved the elements to show support for job creation through investments in our crumbling public infrastructure, and a more progressive tax code.

    Contrary to the nay-sayers on this blog, there was a guardrail to stand behind, no traffic was disrupted nor commuters inconvenienced, and a large percentage of the hundreds of cars that passed by honked or waved in support.

    Every day more folks are speaking up against the economic crimes that have been committed by the 1% and their lackeys.

    2012 is going to be very interesting!

  65. Sick of it
    November 17, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    @ Intermediate: Funny, I never even brought up the courthouse protesters. That protest is a joke-the original message is so lost that I wonder if they even remember what the original Occupy protest is even for.

  66. humboldt turtle
    November 17, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    The original protest, message lost? I don’t think so. It’s a discussion of money and morality and the future of children who won’t inherit trusts but must survive on wits and labor. It’s only beginning. IMO.

  67. Apologist Not
    November 17, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Not if the media can help it Seageezer!

    There’s more Troglodytes posting here than usual and it’s easy to see why they hate government so much!

    They’ve had nearly 12 years of public education and STILL don’t understand that the rights and privileges they enjoy every moment of their dark existence, were won by protests just like OWS!

    I could be wrong about them:

    Maybe they don’t want their “lazy Hippie daughters” to be able to vote, to attend public universities, to have a GI Bill, unions, weekends, 8-hour workdays. Because, in the good ol’ days, without the burden of unions and regulations, no unemployed young girl was left behind in this nation’s textile mills.

    A generation of government-corporate collusion has legislated ALL these things far away from U.S. shores! So, who are these OWS protesters to demand a share in the New Imperialist bounty? Protesters aren’t the ones in China slaving to earn a tiny piece! They aren’t the one’s with the work-ethic, ingenuity, and perseverance to risk investing billions in communist dictatorships….flooding America with child-labor’s cheap, toxic products designed to quickly fail. Ney! Cheap stuff is sustaining the protesters, and tens of millions of average Americans working all day in poverty!

    It’s a sustainable form of “capitalism” as long as “patriotic” Americans remain willing to bail out the financiers!

    And that’s why OWS is a threat: in a world of deceit, the truth is revolutionary.

    Our own rural Reich-Wingers are thoroughly deluded that they benefit from the New Imperialism, thus, they will not, cannot, dare not, defend its Medevil characteristics…it’s simpler to categorize OWS protesters as ungrateful free-market haters.

  68. Mark Twain
    November 17, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    “When an entire nation of people conspire to perpetuate gigantic mute lies, the lies of individuals are made irrelevant”.

  69. tra
    November 17, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Hi Fi says: “TRA, the early morning raid was to minimize the number of campers there and to reduce the chances of problems.”

    In my opinion, they did not “reduce the chances of problems” by doing it in the middle of the night, as any advantage due to having fewer protesters there was outweighed by the fact that when you wake people up in the middle of the night, they’re already on edge. And, as it happened, this didn’t stop more people from showing up and being arrested, since they still weren’t able to get them cleared out before “reinforcements” started to arrive.

    And, as I pointed out above, the cops failed to take any effective steps to prevent re-occupation of that same patch of grass, which was entirely predictable, especially given the fact that the protesters had vowed to do exactly that. So then the cops had to come back a few days later, for another overtime-wasting “early morning raid” where now there were twice as many arrests. So whoever was calling the shots as far as how to proceed with the eviction and prevent re-occupation, either they screwed up, or else they were more intersted in creating another opportunity for a second occupation and second raid than they were in actually keeping the space clear.

    Meanwhile, the idea that the most effective way to deal with these protests is to use riot police to carry out surprise middle-of-the-night raids, seems to be at odds with what sounds like a much more calm, orderly dispersal of the Occupy protest at Arcata City Hall.

    It sounds like the fact that Arcata’s police chief and other Arcata city officials took the time to have direct, respectful interactions with the protesters enabled them to persuade most of them to voluntarily pack up their camp — and with no need for dozens of police in riot gear.

  70. What Now
    November 17, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    On November 17, 2011 at 4:23 pm,
    “Apologist Not” posted one fine statement.
    Copied to persoanl file for reference.
    Thanks, Apologist Not.

  71. What Now
    November 17, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    “High Finance says:
    November 17, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    TRA, the early morning raid was to minimize the number of campers there and to reduce the chances of problems.”

    So, the “campers” are diurnal sleepers, “Migh Tied”?
    What a goddamned idiot……

  72. interstate media school of fish
    November 17, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    The new “sick of it” is correct, he didn’t bring up the courthouse, my bad. If the new “sick of it” is instead upset as he claims to be about the protests going on somewhere else, then he really is a case study for emotional instability.

    “Put your money where your mouth is”, as you say, sick of it. Show up at the next city council meeting to complain about the protests you are “sick of”. “Walk the walk”, as you put it.

  73. Toohey
    November 17, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    Yah know when somebody tells you to go play on the freeway you are not supposed to do it..

  74. interstate media school of fish
    November 17, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Little analogies are cute and quirky, toohey, but that’s all they are. What’s behind the protest happening all over the country right now is a specific matter, and an important one.

  75. What Now
    November 17, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Here’s yet ANOTHER islamofascist tree hugin’ hippie pinko sissy terrorist:

  76. interstate media school of fish
    November 17, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Wonder what all these posters complaining about the protest thought when the price of gas quadrupled over a couple years, or when their own financial numbers or something faltered. “Damn protesters must be at it again!”, or maybe “Somebody should protest!”. Maybe they consider themselves sacrificial patriots or something. Maybe they have so much financial security they don’t care, or are party to the proverbial 1%. Maybe they’re just fake personas intent on stirring shit.

  77. Load Me Another
    November 17, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    It is interesting to note that the vein of thought here is that corporations corrupt gov’t as if it’s a one way street. Yet, you guys elect the same public officials who keep accepting the $$. Lobbying and accessto our officials happens on both sides of the aisle. I don’t hear any of you calling out our public officials (unless it’s EPD related), especially national officials. Gingrich accepted $$ from Fannie and Freddie- shame on him and will probably hurt him. We all know what our current administration has done as Solyndra is the tip of the iceberg not to mention many energy loans had White House ties. Coincidence? Our gov’t aids and abets all the coporate greed, but most here ignore that because it’s convenient to do so. The attitude is to have “my guy” in office no matter how much $$ they take from lobbyists and others- and, especially our tax dollars they pour down the drain, but that seems to be fine with most of you. Doesn’t gov’t waste concern us? We’ll see what the super comittee tables for after the election rather than take resposibility- and these are the folks we’ll re-elect. Before we know it, we’ll be taking our marching orders from Beijing. Do you speak Chinese Interstate?

  78. interstate media school of fish
    November 17, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Load Me Another writes “Yet, you guys elect the same public officials who keep accepting the $$.”

    So who do you vote for? And who, exactly, are “you guys”? And if you don’t vote, what does it matter who anybody votes for if the principles behind your own reasons for not voting are valid, yet your participation in political discussoin still is? How much money do you make every month, Load Me Another? Is that important in this issue? Why or why not?

  79. Richard
    November 17, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    I heard that the reason for doing the raids at the wee hours was that it would be easier for the cop to get the charge of “camping” to stick in court if they had to wake folks up in order to arrest them so rather then show up in the clam of daylight and tell those who were camping they’d be arrested and allowing those who want to leave to leave they went with the more dangerous approach. Public safety was the last thing on the minds of who ever was orchestrating the actions of the EPD.

    As to the “message” of Occupy, they have done as much and likely more then the Teabaggers did to change the national conversation, the difference is that the Teabaggers message was things like “Keep the government’s hands off my medicare” and “Obama is a Socialist AND a Fascist” and the Occupiers message is the gap between the 99% and the 1%, and all that implies.
    Of course the Teabaggers had Freedom Works behind them from the start, and Occupy had only Adbusters!

  80. mresquan
    November 17, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    And the large majority of Tea Partiers had no problem with Bush’s insane spending and the massive increase of government,and the bailouts,and on,and on,and on…..

  81. Anonymous
    November 18, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    What is your law enforcement experience Richard?

  82. Apologist Not
    November 18, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    OWS threatens to educate eligible voters, (the 50%+ who abstain in every election), something both political parties and the media have resisted with amazing efficiency.

    That’s why America’s first black Imperial president stays-the-course.

    If the Brown Shirts stopped repressing the protests, they could enable a liberal democrat to steal popularity from Obama, so that a white republican imperialist president can resume HIS rightful place in continuing illegal wars, bailouts, and tax cuts for the rich.

    By November, 2012, “Hope More” won’t work for voters, educated or not.

  83. anonymous
    November 18, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Interesting post “This is what America looks like” on the current noyonews.net

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