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Supes extend pot moratorium

Humboldt County Supervisors voted to extend a moratorium on marijuana dispensaries at its Tuesday meeting, adding “ten months and fifteen days” to a temporary moratorium passed on December 13th.

Language in the moratorium will emphasize that actions by US attorneys are thwarting efforts by local governments to protect the health and safety of it’s citizens through locally crafted ordinances.

  1. unanonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    yeah, lets protect health and safety by letting them smoke something. Don’t we get to sue California for allowing unsafe, untested, medicine to be sold to us?

  2. Hippocrates
    January 24, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Answer: no.

    Where do you buy your unsafe medicine unanonymous?

  3. unanonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    at the caregivers clinic…it said medicine and ca legal…….i didn’t know smoking it was gonna harm my health. I mean it warns me on a gas pump not to breath the fumes, my CA air quality permit says burning things makes carcinogens, yet they sold this to me without any label saying smoking it was harmful…..

  4. unanonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    we get to sue everyone else that sells us a dangerous product………

    I think we do.

  5. unanonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    The American Cancer Society (ACS) “does not advocate inhaling smoke, nor the legalization of marijuana,” although the organization does support carefully controlled clinical studies for alternative delivery methods, specifically a tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) skin patch.7

  6. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    no one says it should only be used by smoking.

  7. High Finance
    January 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    It is NOT medicine, it is a hallucinogenic.

    Why the lies ?

  8. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    pot is not an hallucinogen, however alcohol can be.

  9. unanonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    nope,,,,,,,but the product should be labeled as dangerous if smoked. My doctor didn’t give me any instructions on dosage or how to use it…….is he incompetent or committing malpractice?

  10. WhatNow
    January 24, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    “High Finance says:
    January 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    It is NOT medicine, it is a hallucinogenic.

    Why the lies ?”

    Hallucenogenic?
    Thatn alcohol has finally flattened all your neuropathways, Highly Fried.

  11. Unanimous
    January 24, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Dude, HiFi, you’re not doin’ it right, man.

  12. Scott
    January 24, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    That’s hysterical ununanimous!

  13. walt
    January 25, 2012 at 6:23 am

    The safe way is to smoke dope, but not inhale it. Worked for Bill Clinton, and now he’s worth $100 million!

  14. Decline To State
    January 25, 2012 at 7:28 am

    The Humboldt County Board of Supervisors are only concerned with their self-interests and care nothing for what’s in the best interest of the citizens of Humboldt County. They are cowards and our Founding Fathers would be embarrassed by their actions. I know I am.

  15. unanonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 7:58 am

    setting up medical dispensaries that distribute untested, potentially dangerous product is in our best interests? please elaborate….

  16. Eric Kirk
    January 25, 2012 at 8:43 am

    It is NOT medicine, it is a hallucinogenic.

    You know, I understand that it’s been designated such. And I haven’t used it in over 25 years. But I never experienced hallucinations. In fact, that was one of the let downs for me. I had much higher expectations.

  17. Mitch
    January 25, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Mixed with Scotch, cannabis is inflammable and can cause severe burns. Don’t breathe in if it’s on fire, HiFi.

  18. Decline To State
    January 25, 2012 at 9:33 am

    unanonymous says:
    January 25, 2012 at 7:58 am

    setting up medical dispensaries that distribute untested, potentially dangerous product is in our best interests? please elaborate….

    It brings relief to people who are ill. It could be you, it could be me. I think making it readily (legally) available to those in need would be in all our best interests.

  19. High Finance
    January 25, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Maybe you shouldn’t project so much Mitch. Obviously you had too much Scotch or smoking something when you made that post.

    Perhaps you want to reread it ?

  20. Mitch
    January 25, 2012 at 9:58 am

    I just thought you needed to be alerted to the dangers, HiFi. We’d miss you terribly.

    Really — cigars could ignite your Scotch, with or without cannabis.

    Given your support of pot prohibition, I’m sure you agree the federal government should outlaw such dangerous products as Scotch and cigars. After all, you’re a big supporter of the nanny state.

    And I know you don’t want the taxpayer paying for treatment of burns that could have been prevented if only inflammable intoxicants were illegal.

    Scotch doesn’t kill people — ignition does.

  21. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 10:04 am

    There’s a guy named high finance and he’s not high? That’s false advertising.

  22. unanonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 10:25 am

    DTS, I have no problem with legalizing it. The legislation of it as a medicine is wrong. The state is allowing a known harmful product (any smoked substance), untested, with no efficacy documented by clinical trials to be labeled a medicine. If a large pharmaceutical company did this liberals would be outraged at the threat to health and safety…..where is the out rage now? I am not one that believes the ends justify the means….

  23. WhatNow
    January 25, 2012 at 10:45 am

    “Anonymous says:
    January 25, 2012 at 10:04 am
    There’s a guy named high finance and he’s not high? That’s false advertising.”

    The motto on his family coat of arms is “Caveat Emptor”.

  24. longwind
    January 25, 2012 at 11:32 am

    unanonymous, you’re comparing a natural, unprocessed herb to highly processed synthetic compounds. OxyContin and Xanax are heavy drugs. They can and do kill people. Marijuana–whether medicinal or recreational–is an herb, like arnica or St. John’s wort. To die of it you’d have to suffocate in it.

    That’s not to say it’s harmless. You can die of an overdose of milk, or water. That doesn’t make milk and water deadly drugs. It shows how sloppy our language and thinking may be.

    The pharmaceutical industry wants to do to pot what it did to willow bark (asperin), foxglove (digitalis), quinine and a growing host of natural remedies, which is to process and concentrate by patented means into patented products a plant that can’t be prevented from growing, which already meets many needs.

    But where’s their money in that? We hear the feds right now howling their defense of pot’s Schedule 1 status (“no medical use”) while simultaneously licensing its concentration and production by major pharmaceutical houses. We should be clear that we must defend the herb against this profit-centered industrial processing. We must defend our brains against it too.

  25. January 25, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Can’t expect local politicos to take the heat from the Feds. Not really fair. State of CA needs to step up first on state’s rights.

  26. January 25, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Pathetic.

  27. January 25, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    When the Government wont do their jobs, WE THE PEOPLE, need to do it for them.

    Also, maybe its time to find some supervisors that are not GUTLESS.
    Just sayin’

  28. January 25, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    “DTS, I have no problem with legalizing it. The legislation of it as a medicine is wrong. The state is allowing a known harmful product (any smoked substance), untested, with no efficacy documented by clinical trials to be labeled a medicine. If a large pharmaceutical company did this liberals would be outraged at the threat to health and safety…..where is the out rage now? I am not one that believes the ends justify the means….”

    How many FDA approved drugs have DEATH as a side effect? How about seizures? How many drugs get approved and are then proven to NOT be safe at all…

    At this point, claiming smoked cannabis is not medicine is ignorant at best.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100830094926.htm
    http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2011/12/smoked_marijuana_is_medicine_feds_still_distributi.php

  29. longwind
    January 25, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Mark, I see I wasn’t clear. I do think marijuana is medicine. And it’s an herb. Arnica is too. One of the many layers of gray we face in regulation is the fuzzy line (waffled by the FDA) between regulated drugs and unregulated herbs. If pot becomes a regulated drug it will be lost to we who are making its regulation necessary.

    I believe in freedom, even at the risk of overdosing on raw St. John’s wort, or pot. I want to treat it with earned respect, and perfect freedom. Just legalize it.

  30. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Studies (yes there have been studies) have shown that Marijuana smoke doesn’t have negative health affects. No one has ever died from an over dose. Meanwhile the same govt. refuses to re-regulate pseudo ephedrine allowing addicts and cartels to manufacture an addictive poison (that would be methamphetamine) that is truly dangerous and tearing our county and families apart. What utter B.S.

  31. tra
    January 25, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Studies (yes there have been studies) have shown that Marijuana smoke doesn’t have negative health affects.

    I don’t think that’s quite correct. It’s true that there were some articles out a year or so ago saying that the largest, best controlled study to date did show that even fairly heavy marijuana smokers were not at any increased risk of lung cancer, a result that surprised the researchers. And more recently there was a study that showed that people who smoke low-to-moderate amounts of marijuana actually scored a little better on lung-capacity tests than people who didn’t smoke at all (though at higher levels of use that wasn’t true).

    But if I’m recalling correctly, other research has shown that, unsurprisingly, heavy pot smokers do have an increased risk of other lung problems, including bronchitis and emphysema. Nowhere near as bad as tobacco, but all the same, not great for your lungs. From what I’ve read, it seems like most physicians who recommend cannabis for their patients generally recommend the use of a vaporizer and/or consumables instead of smoking it, especially if the patient needs to use it regularly. Seems like good advice.

  32. High Finance
    January 25, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Not just lung damage but long term pot use makes you stupid causing memory loss and saps your ambition and energy.

    I don’t have studies to point to all I have is my personal experience of dealing with numerous people like WhatNow that prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt. Those of you who aren’t long time pot smokers also know a lot of people like that.

  33. tra
    January 25, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I don’t have studies to point to all I have is my personal experience…

    Yeah, who needs valid research when we can just go with whatever anecdotal evidence backs up our prejudices. Well played, sir.

  34. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    High Finance says:
    January 25, 2012 at 9:37 pm
    Not just lung damage but long term pot use makes you stupid causing memory loss and saps your ambition and energy.

    I don’t have studies to point to all I have is my personal experience of dealing with numerous people like WhatNow that prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt. Those of you who aren’t long time pot smokers also know a lot of people like that.

    Haven’t smoked anything in years, Highly Fried.
    Nor do I saturate my brain with dead yeast cells to the point of brain damage as do you and your siblings.

  35. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    I haven’t smoked ANYTHING in ages.
    Nor have I ever had an inclination to saturate my brain with dead yeast cells over ice as do you and your siblings.

  36. What Now
    January 25, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    I haven’t smoked anything in ages, Highly Fried nor have I ever made a practice of saturating my brain with dead yeast cells (as you do) or persued other substances (white powder recreationals)as you, your siblings and other family members have and continue to do so.
    Biggest high I get these days is the insanely intesnse degree of sociopathic horsehit that you bloviate on line here between trips to your liquor cabinet.

  37. High Finance
    January 26, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Then what accounts for your inability to think WhatNow, your lack of social skills and your multiple postings forgetting to remember which Avatar you’re using ?

    Perhaps you should get your nose out of your computer Tra and look outside & talk to real people.

  38. tra
    January 26, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    I do that every day, HiFi, and just like you’ve had experience with people who use cannabis, so have I. The thing is, it seems that our experiences have been different.

    That’s why, when we’re considering significant policy issue like cannabis prohibition, we need to look to a broader set of data than just our own experiences.

    Or you can just wallow in your existing prejudices, smugly assuming that they accurately reflect reality. It’s your choice.

  39. Eric Kirk
    January 26, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    Not just lung damage but long term pot use makes you stupid causing memory loss and saps your ambition and energy.

    I always wondered about the last part. Correlation is not necessarily causation. What if people without ambition are simply more likely to smoke dope?

  40. tra
    January 26, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    I wonder the same thing about people who lack critical thinking skills. Do they lack critical thinking skills because they are stupid, or do they remain stupid because they lack critical thinking skills?

  41. Anonymous
    January 26, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    this aggression will not stand, Man.

  42. Joe
    January 31, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Moderate marijuana use has not been linked to lung damage. In fact, moderate users lungs were slightly better in comparison to non-smokers. Here is a link: google for more info

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-checkup/post/moderate-marijuana-use-not-linked-to-lung-damage/2010/12/20/gIQAjm3roP_blog.html

    Also, it has been known for years that marijuana smoke does not cause lung cancer.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=large-study-finds-no-link

    Also, medical marijuana does not have to be smoked. Many patients prefer eating it. High quality vaporizers cut down on many carcinogens as well.

    Some more interesting studies. Marijuana does not harm cognitive function in middle-aged men (and it may even improve it).

    http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/12/21/aje.kwr315.abstract

    Also, higher IQ people are more likely to use illicit drugs (not arguing that is necessarily a good thing, just interesting).

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111114221018.htm

    Only people that are ignorant of the vast amount of data on marijuana would make claims that it destroys brain cells or causes a lack of motivation, such claims are not even worthy of debate.

    Also, it is actually against NIDA policy to do any research on potential positives from marijuana, so keep that in mind when reading their research.

    Marijuana use is a global issue though, so many other countries have reliable scientific research.

    The NIDA also controls the supply of medical marijuana to US researchers (but researches have multiple distributors for LSD, ecstasy, and psilocybin mushrooms) and grow horrible marijuana.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/health/policy/19marijuana.html

  43. High Finance
    February 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    Also, the more beautiful people take illicit drugs and it cures dandruff as well !

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