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What’s the difference between a vicious animal and a conservative candidate?

KMUD news reports Humboldt County’s conservative elite turned out Friday night to a fundraiser at Redwood Acres to voice their endorsements for Rex Bohn’s campaign for Humboldt County Supervisor.

Eureka City Councilwoman Melinda Ciarabellini, who is going door-to-door for Rex, took the mic and dropped a Q on the crowd.  To paraphrase:

What’s the difference between a pit bull and Rex Bohn?
A: A pit bull will eventually let go.

Grawr!

We certainly saw the locked jaws Rex and co. during that loser of a lawsuit they took all the way to the California Supreme Court over the balloon track, which lost every step of the way.

Supervisor Virginia Bass, Current Sheriff Mike Downey and former Sheriff Gary Philp were there, and Downey said Bohn would help restore things Humboldt County lost, like jobs and “integrity.” He didn’t elaborate on that.  Maybe he meant salmon and redwoods.

The same pit-bull question was popped to supporters at an Allison Jackson rally way back when.  Popular imagery to a Republican crowd, perhaps.

The only other candidate so far is Annette De Modena. Deadline for other hats to fall in the ring is March 9th.

  1. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 12:23 am

    Is Patty Berg running?

  2. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Sounds like a similar crowd that showed up at Huffman’s fundraiser at the Women’s Building this weekend.

  3. Decline To State
    January 24, 2012 at 6:52 am

    Boy, I can’t wait to get my “integrity” back! I’ve certainly missed it.

  4. Mitch
    January 24, 2012 at 7:14 am

    Heraldo,

    I’m sure there are plenty of good ways to point out Rex Bohn’s political failures and errors. Running a photo of a pit bull just makes the Herald look ridiculous.

  5. pitchfork
    January 24, 2012 at 7:40 am

    Rex is ready to spread the Brandy bunch revisionism county wide.

  6. January 24, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Have another cup of coffee, Mitch.

  7. just middle class
    January 24, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Well folks, there were over 1000 people there and he raised a ton of money. This blog is expected to attack with vigor, just like the attacks on Sundberg, Bass, and as you call the Brady Bunch, all which won their races. So I guess we have to consider the point that the liberal commenters on this blog are really the fringe. As far as Patty, why would she take on this race with such a late start? She would be waaaaaaay behind on the fundraising and orginization. Any candidate should be think carefully when looking at an opponent who can turn out over 1000 at an event and who has raised significant cash as well as have such significant name identification and good community will.
    But on with the expected attacks although the pit bull is a bit mutch.

  8. January 24, 2012 at 8:17 am

    His supporters call him a pit bull. Apparently it is supposed to be a compliment.

  9. just middle class
    January 24, 2012 at 8:51 am

    The comment at the event was OK but the picture on your blog is a bit much, you can do better.

  10. January 24, 2012 at 9:08 am

    It’s your symbol. Own it.

  11. dave
    January 24, 2012 at 9:22 am

    You want a hardcore conservative? read this:
    http://aden4arkansas.com/?p=964

  12. Plain Jane
    January 24, 2012 at 9:44 am

    OMG Dave! The insane monster who killed that poor kitty is worse than the most vicious, rabid pit bull.

    Why is it that the right gets upset when we use the same descriptions for them that they use for themselves? They love the mental imagery of a vicious attack dog as a candidate, but whine about a photo of one. They called themselves Tea Baggers but got offended when we called them that. Maybe mastiff would be a better choice of dogs for them, gentle giants who could accidentally crush you for the treat in your pocket.

  13. January 24, 2012 at 9:59 am

    We all know how all politicians are corrupt, bought whores. That’s not the problem, it is the people that votes for them. Keep up the good work, Heraldo.

  14. WhatNow
    January 24, 2012 at 10:27 am

    There is at least ONE other difference between Bohn and pit bulls.
    Pit bulls are capable of being housebroken.

  15. High Finance
    January 24, 2012 at 10:29 am

    I thought we all decided yesterday on the other topic that Pit Bulls were sweet ?

  16. Plain Jane
    January 24, 2012 at 10:32 am

    No HiFi, what we all decided was that they could be sweet but some owners turn them into monsters. Rex’s owner is responsible for his behavior.

  17. anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 10:39 am

    We need to find a new word to describe people who vote Republican. Conservative no longer fits.

    Conservative means cautious, moderate, restrained. Hardly characteristic of the people who bash in a cat’s head, cheer for letting an uninsured man die and boo the golden rule.

    I recall conservatives who were thoughtful and intelligent. That’s a thing of the past. Today, conservative means ignorant, hypocritical, bigoted and violent.

  18. High Finance
    January 24, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Conservative means cautious, restrained, thinking logically, self reliant and takes responsibility.

    10.39am must live in backward world.

  19. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 10:49 am

    10:39….we call ourselves independents.

  20. anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Zippy the Pinhead once observed that “Life is a blur of Republicans and meat.”

  21. anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 11:20 am

    HiFi, you are correct, we all live in a backward world that continues to use the word conservative to describe the thugs who currently dominate the Republican party. None of the terms you listed apply to the behavior so prevalent among Republican supporters.

  22. January 24, 2012 at 11:52 am

    “… a photo of a pit bull just makes the Herald look ridiculous”

    I’m with Mitch on this one.

  23. Cesar Millan
    January 24, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    PJ has it right. No. 1 predictor of pit bull behavior is the behavior of its owner. Possibly applies here as well.

  24. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    “…said Bohn would help restore things Humboldt County lost, like jobs and “integrity.”

    Wait a minute, wasn’t that what the Brady Bunch and Bass were going to do? Does this mean they are incompetent or will Bohn run against the ghosts of Glass and Neely?

    Let’s see… Arkley is still fighting himself and dragging his feet on any commitment to the Balloon Track, and low end WalMart jobs will replace the jobs lost at several closed establishments – net gain zero.

    But let’s not “let go” of that dream of returning to 1965 – when men were men, the town had an awful “stank” and the bay was our industrial cesspool.

  25. anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    “When men were men and so were the women.”

  26. anoni-anoni
    January 24, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    High Finance says:
    January 24, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Conservative means cautious, restrained, thinking logically, self reliant and takes responsibility.

    Yeh….that’s exactly what I think of when I read any of HF’s posts.

  27. anon
    January 24, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Not sure you can magically create integrity when the puppetmasters have no clue what the word means.

  28. Harold Knight
    January 24, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Heraldo has my support for the Pit Bull photo. Excellent satire on the right’s dog-of-choice.

    Despite the good turnout, it’s ridiculous to portray Bohn’s critics as a “fringe” when half the eligible voters are unregistered or abstain.

    He’s been on the losing side of many major local issues.

    It would make a powerful 30-second ad for an opponent.

  29. High Finance
    January 24, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    The best thing Rex has going for him are all the left wing fringe posting here who turn most people off.

    Keep up the good work Anoni Harold & Heraldo !

  30. January 24, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    If that’s the best thing you can say about Rex his campaign is doomed.

  31. Matt
    January 24, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    “I thought we all decided yesterday on the other topic that Pit Bulls were sweet”

    Agreed. I strongly disagree with peoples’ characterization of pitbulls as vicious attack dogs. It’s incorrect and helps perpetuate an inaccurate myth that harms innocent dogs.

    http://www.badrap.org/monster-myths

  32. GivinTheDogABohn
    January 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Its hard to argue with a turnout of over 1000 people. Let’s make it interesting, though. Someone else get in the race in the next few weeks or this thing is over.

  33. just middle class
    January 24, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Anyone with the organization to put together an event like Rex’s and to have collected the amount of money he has, will be hard to beat. For a race like this one, someone needed to be out working months ago, late to the party, late to the ballot box!

  34. Matt
    January 24, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    I think Annette started a long time ago, but she doesn’t have the name recognition or backing to really compete (IMO).

    I don’t personally have anything against Bohn as a person but I also don’t think he has the intellectual capacity for the position. He should start with city council or something and work his way up.

  35. Shad
    January 24, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    I just don’t see why they would just let Rex walk into the office essentially unopposed.

  36. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    “I just don’t see why they would just let Rex walk into the office essentially unopposed.”

    Almost looks like the progressive machine has run out of candidates.

  37. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    “I also don’t think he has the intellectual capacity for the position.”

    Looking at the current board it is hard to believe it matters.

  38. January 24, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    You guys have pegged it. Rex has A LOT OF MONEY behind him. In our current system, MONEY usually wins over almost any other characteristic a candidate might have. And you’re right again. Who wants to take on the BIG MONEY? Government by default and by overwhelming wealth.
    Wadda system!

  39. Mitchell
    January 24, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    “I just don’t see why they would just let Rex walk into the office essentially unopposed.”

    That’s a good question.

    You should ask your local liberal lefties leaders why they aren’t running anyone against the Rex Bohn machine, such as…

    Linda Atkins
    Chris Beresford
    Patty Berg
    Heidi Bonzonelli
    Milt Boyd
    Shane Brinton
    Pam Cahill
    Wes Chesbro
    George Clark
    Patrick Cleary
    Elizabeth Connors
    Greg Connors
    Chuck DeWitt
    Josh Drayton

  40. anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Mitchell, how many in that list live in the 1st District? Don’t think much, do ya?

  41. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Hey 5:13, how hard is it to move into a district or ward, ala bayside resident Larry Glass moving into old town back in the day?

    Don’t think much, do ya?

  42. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Do ex drug dealers get elected in Humboldt County?

  43. Thirdeye
    January 24, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    I haven’t decided whether I’ll vote for Bohn or not, but I’m certainly not going to vote for some fruitcake like Glass, Kerrigan, Atkins, Clark, LaVallee, Kuhnel, or Manns. Don’t like Bohn? Support someone who can appeal to a broad spectrum of voters instead of your incestuous circle of knee-jerk liberals. Or is faithfully following the Humboldt knee-jerk liberal line a requirement for not being considered a “Republican?”

  44. WhatNow
    January 24, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    I think Rex Bohn is the PERFEDT candidate to fill that slot.

    In appearance, mannerisms, intellectual capacity and reasoning skills, it would be like having Randall Dew Hickey from “My Name Is Earl” at the helm.

  45. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    Wasn’t it Rex’s kid who got busted with a pipe for something and the pit bull pulled strings with the powers to be to get away with it…I cant remember the whole story but, I’m sure some of you will remember..Integrity isn’t a word that means something to Rex. Even the Baseball park people are tired of his loud overbearing personality. Ask Mike or Larry if they would rehire him. No One in our office was sad when he left Renner.

  46. Duhnonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Duh, I don’t know but at least part of the definition of integrity means knowing what the f@#* you’re talking about 7:23. You get today’s gold star for idiot post – and it was neck and neck there for awhile ’til you showed up.

  47. Darnel
    January 24, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Hey, WhatNow, quit picking on Randy. He’s nice.

  48. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Duhomshit..Yes, there was an incident apparently you don’t know the story..7:23 is correct..

  49. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Well, if someone in Rex’s family got busted, it wasn’t Rex, and it is history. The point is more that Rex might have wanted to get the kid off without legal consequences. Which of you as parents wouldn’t try to get your kid off without consequences? Then you can inflict your own punishment. Kids do dumb things. So did Rex. So did I. I knew Rex years ago. He is a good guy though. I am concerned he might be influenced by the ones he thinks are the big dudes in our community. I think he will be pretty good though.

  50. Duhnonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Let’s hear it then, 8:25. Apparently you know. Gold star alert.

  51. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    He can not help but be influenced, he knows what side his bread is buttered on. Nice guy, agreed, down for the community 100%. At face value someone I would trust…but… corruption and cronyism in Humboldt County runs deep. He is in like Flynn with the cronies, they may let him believe “we want you there because you are the right guy for the job” but when it comes time to tell him what to do he will have no choice.

    By the way I saw De Modena in Henderson center with a cast on her arm, do you think Rex bit it and tried to rip it off?

  52. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    rex makes randi see like a genius. I thought trust was a basic thing we should all expect from our local politicians. No one really trusts rex. They know he’s to stupid to do anything except what hes told.

  53. just middle class
    January 25, 2012 at 6:46 am

    Here we go again, claiming that the candidate is stupid and not qualified to run. That certainly did not work with Virginia, she trounced Brilliant Bonnie! You clearly do not know and underestimate Rex. These comments, like the comments about Virginia, do not work to change an election. If you have seen Rex at an auction, you will know that a dumb person does not know most every name in the room.

  54. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 6:52 am

    I know both Bohn and De Modena. I think they are both qualified for this job. Most of the nasty comments made here reflect political disagreement. The job of supervisor takes hard work keeping up with the printed material and understanding the pulse of the community. Both can do that. As far as political differences, that is where you may disagree.

  55. High Finance
    January 25, 2012 at 8:31 am

    What is it about the left that they cannot argue ideas or policies with the conservative candidates or politicians ?

    All you fools can do is launch personal smears & innuendos. It is a despicable approach to politics and can only be done anonymously via the internet.

  56. anon
    January 25, 2012 at 8:48 am

    A pitbull that constantly tells off color, stereotyped and racial jokes and shows his ignorance and lack of education every time he opens his mouth. Seems like a perfect match for Eureka.

  57. Not A Native
    January 25, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Clearly, Rex’s conservative puppet masters are worried about Bohn’s qualifications. He lost an election before, probably because his only personal qualities to represent are ‘popularity’ and ‘name recognition’ not an ability to deeply understand the issues to make sound decisions. Now, they don’t want their boy’s abilities to be examined too closely. They want to slip Bohn in with a campaign of razzle dazzle and rah rah.

  58. anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 8:56 am

    What ideas or policies have they put out there of discussion, HiFi? All I’ve read is how much money is involved. When you’ve got that much money pushing behind you, why bother with ideas and policies?

  59. Andre Marron
    January 25, 2012 at 9:01 am

    How dare you talk about pitbulls like that. They are loving loyal animals. I own two amd they have never bitten anyone in their lives. They are sweet good natured animals with hearts of gold. When im sick they come to see if im ok. When im sad they come show me they love me. Everyone i have over loves my dogs. Noone is afraid of them. Unless they are someone like the writer of this article who is spreading their hateful message about pitbulls. Relating a bad candidate to a ‘dangerous pitbull’ is ignorant. This person knows little about these tyoes of dogs and is living in fear of them and writing artciles to spread their fear to others. Ignire this ignorant writers claims. They are unfounded. The picture posted is someone taunting a dog. All dogs growl and bark when you taunt them. Chihuahuas bite more people than pitbulls ever have. Just because the lady in SanFrancisco got malled by two Presa Canarios(not pittbull), everyone twisted that story to start attacking pitbulls. Learn the actual facts about these dogs and you will know that people who spread these fears are worse animals than the ones they portray.

  60. bull
    January 25, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Let’s get a pitbull on the ballot. I’d vote for a loyal honest dog before I’d vote for this good old boy auctioneer.

  61. WhatNow
    January 25, 2012 at 10:01 am

    “Darnel says:
    January 24, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    Hey, WhatNow, quit picking on Randy. He’s nice.”

    Yeah, Crabman,
    You’re right.
    My bad.

  62. anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Still waiting for one of Rex’s ideas or policies. HiFi? Anyone?

  63. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Pitbulls are on the insurance actuary lists as being one of the dogs that bite people the most. Little dogs also bite more and I guess that’s why they don’t make the list because they don’t cause much damage, being smaller. The list pertains to lawsuits and hurting people. Other nice dogs I consider to make good pets are on the list as well, including huskies, German Shepherds, Rotweilers, Doberman Pincers.

  64. Plain Jane
    January 25, 2012 at 10:38 am

    I’ve only been bitten once deliberately and it was by a Cocker Spaniel. Go figure.

  65. WhatNow
    January 25, 2012 at 10:44 am

    “Andre Marron
    “Unless they are someone like the writer of this article who is spreading their hateful message about pitbulls. Relating a bad candidate to a ‘dangerous pitbull’ is ignorant. ”

    Get a grip.
    Then, try getting a clue.

    The “tougher than a pitbull” analogy has been a rallying cry for the reich-wingers since Sarah Palin’s vice presidential acceptance speech at the 2008 G.O.P. convention.

    Being simple minded and formulaic by nature, the reactionaries and social troglodytes may very well include this in their lexicon of slogans well into the nexy century if the haven’t trashed this planet beyond habitability before then.

  66. Down the Road
    January 25, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Rex Bohn was all for Calpine coming into our area.

    Of the things I know of him: He told a group of us at a “Sons of’
    Italy” gathering that he owned the soccer field in Cutten. It
    is a non-profit and not owned by him. There is a huge cell
    tower on that property that actually has a sign on it warning
    that it may emit higher rays than what is permissible by law.
    Little kids play baseball next to it.

    There was a remark in another posting that Virginia Bass was
    called dumb and still won an election. Calling her dumb was
    flattering. Don’t you watch the Supervisor’s meetings.

    Check out Rex Bohn’s work record before you vote for him.

  67. Up the Street
    January 25, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    If Virginia Bass is so dumb, what does that say about Bonnie Neely and her campaign team?

    Stupid is as stupid loses.

  68. anon
    January 25, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    What does it say for the voters?

  69. Thirdeye
    January 25, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    anon 8:48 said more about anon 8:48 than about Bohn. Why should Eurekans listen to those who think they’re a bunch of stupid rubes when they call a candidate a stupid rube? And unless you can verify that Bohn “constantly tells off-color, stereotyped, and racial jokes,” that’s just an anonymous smear.

  70. Up the Street
    January 25, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    It says the voters were smart enough to pick the smarter candidate (Bass) to represent them.

    Stupid is as stupid loses (Neely).

  71. Me
    January 25, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    I’m sure there are many really sweet pit bulls out there but they kill more people each year, by far, than any other breed. And the info below only goes through 1998 when pit bulls were not nearly as popular as they are now.

    A study by the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA) found that over a 20-year period, the following ten breeds were responsible for over 230 deaths.

    Numbers of Deaths per Breed (1979 – 1998)
    Dog Breed Fatalities
    Pit Bull 76
    Rottweiler 44
    German Shepherd 27
    Husky 21
    Malamute 15
    Wolf-dog hybrid 14
    Chow Chow 11
    Doberman 10
    Saint Bernard 8
    Great Dane 7
    Source: JAVMA, Vol 217, No. 6, September 15, 2000

  72. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    “In our current system, MONEY usually wins”

    One would expect the one with the ability to win votes would have equal success raising money so I don’t think the correlation is all that meaningful. Would be interested to see data on number of donors vs. money raised vs. outcomes.

  73. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Is hi/fi your real name. No, just a way to act like you are elitist again. Why don’t you go by your real name Mr.Strombeck, you are also anonymous. For the record Rex’s son was in an accident and the accident was covered up. There were also drugs involved. Hmmm. Sometimes it builds character to take responsibility for your actions and learn that even knowing PEOPLE in town cant change the facts. Now his kid thinks he can do whatever he wants and daddy can get him out of trouble. If Rex would cover up something so small how much would it cost to have Rex cover up other things. I think Larry Renner is a great guy, ask Larry about rex?

  74. anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    5:42 says “how hard is it to move into a district or ward, ala bayside resident Larry Glass moving into old town back in the day?”

    Not that hard. Rex Bohn just did it, why not ask him?

  75. anon
    January 25, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    The son has a grow in his house, too. It does pay to have friends in the right places.

  76. just middle class
    January 25, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I just love all the anonymous statements that have no basis in fact, if there is no name, then the comment is just not believable. Rex lived in the district and announced his candidacy while he lived in the district, then the redistricting moved him our of the district and he moved to be back in the district, not the same a Glass at all.

  77. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Wow Rex seems like a good guy now. We all partied and tried different substances. I was at the local parties in the late 80’s and saw a bunch of up and comers doing substance that they probably shouldn’t have been doing and there was no shortage of party favors. If your son is growing in house that you own it would be very hard to deny you had any knowledge of the growing going on. I know someone who is calling EPD tomorrow to report that and would hope it not to be true. The neighbor who is going to do the reporting has a camera that they are turning on tonight and if there is anything leaving that house tonight it will be on tape. Night vision surveillance cameras are cheap now and having a fake name on here is just like being anonymous. Post your real name and I’m sure others will too.

  78. Steve-O
    January 25, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Good luck 5:27. If your Seal Team 6 dreams come true you should be real proud of yourself. Meanwhile, enjoy riding your bigwheel around the cul-de-sac wearing your plastic badge and making fire truck sounds.

  79. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    5:27, I’m supposed to not like Rex because he did drugs in the 80’s. You are a total loser 5:27. I don’t care if Rex did drugs, I don’t care if Glass did drugs, and I don’t care who they sleep with either. You are watching to much TMZ.

  80. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Actually 7:36 I don’t think 5:27 was saying that and the fact that you do watch TMZ is a testament to why someone like you would vote for rex. I do care about who someone really is at the core of their morals and ethics. I think if someone is going to make decisions for my district they should be honest and be compelled to do the right thing even if the right thing differs from what would benefit them personally but, whats best for us all. It seems that politicians say all the right things and when its time to make a decision they forget what they promised. If you knew he sold drugs would that change your mind?

  81. Mr Bootstraps
    January 25, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Who’s running against Rex? All that money, and nobody to use it against, what a waste.

  82. Tramondo
    January 25, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Typical trogs on Heraldo.

    All talk, no action.

    Go fill out some papers at the County Elections Office and run a credible race.

    Until then, bow down before your next 1st District Supervisor.

    Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex! Rex!

  83. What Now
    January 25, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    “Anonymous says:
    January 25, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    Is hi/fi your real name. No, just a way to act like you are elitist again. Why don’t you go by your real name…”

    Simple logistics.
    It cost the government he so detests a small fortune to place Highly Fried in The Witless Protection Program and that funding has been slashed.

  84. humboldturtle
    January 26, 2012 at 7:03 am

    The filing deadline is what, February? Run, Patty, run!

  85. Bad to the Bone
    January 26, 2012 at 7:46 am

    I’ll take a “Run, Patty, Run!” bumper sticker… for the front of my car.

    Did you see the awesome Rex Bohn insert in today’s Times Standard?

    How many average everyday voters are already endorsing Rex? Thousands?

    Please run, Patty. Please. Pretty please.

  86. anonymous
    January 26, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Reading all the comments on this thread, I can see that Rex supporters are not the brightest bunch. Not likely to see any witty repartee during this race.

  87. Anonymous
    January 26, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    “Would be interested to see data on number of donors vs. money raised vs. outcomes”.

    If local media had the guts, they could easily expose the legacy of corruption in local elections, the result would be more voter registrations from the “other majority” and more real democrats running.

    Only one reporter has ever attempted to break this story in the NCJ’s “Interested Parties” by John Osborn following the 2010 election.

    Our local development community has proven repeatedly that it’s all about the money. Their candidates enjoy a Right -of-Passage regardless of AWOL issues, vision and ability.

    What better explanation is there for the irrational defense of money as “free speech” and corporations as “people”?

    It is exceptional when a local liberal candidate either outspends their opponent, or wins.

    Patty Berg’s experience in Sacramento is badly needed today. Surely Pit-Bull Bohn can put his community first and end his run for lap-dog.

  88. Just Middle Class
    January 26, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Patty’s record in Sacramento would not be a good basis for a local campaign, her only major goal was to allow people to kill themselves! Just what we need a person who is Sacramento based!

  89. Anonymous
    January 26, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Yep, it’s better that big-government make sure people’s only choice is to suffer as long as scientifically possible from incurable and painful illnesses, along with the bankruptcies, foreclosures, divorces, poverty, and PTSD, so common to chronic disease today.

    Berg’s heroic and effective efforts on behalf of the aged and ill, especially in Eureka, are well-known and widely appreciated.

  90. Just Middle Class
    January 26, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Not wildly appreciated to get a bill passed!

  91. 713
    January 26, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    “It is exceptional when a local liberal candidate either outspends their opponent, or wins”

    I don’t think that is true. it seems that the spending has been pretty close in most races.

  92. anon
    January 26, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Thirdeye at 1:49:
    Have you ever even talked to Rex for more than 5 minutes or been to one of his auctions? If so, you wouldn’t be asking that question. He lives to tell jokes and make off color comments, it’s part of his schtick and I can only speculate that he thinks it makes him personable.
    The man would be a hostile work environment and harrasment nightmare if he ever had to work a normal job with a diverse group of people. As it is I wonder why his poor wife puts up with all the blonde jokes.

  93. Anonymous
    January 26, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    anon, I think you’ve got the smoking gun!!! For criminy sakes, put it out on the front page OMG REX TELLS BLONDE JOKES! Quick, call Thaddeus Greenson, I’m sure you have him on speed dial.

    It’s True! I have been to several charity events where Rex has donated his time to help (or as you say, one of “his auctions”), and by god, man you have him dead to rights – Rex tells jokes, and pretty much most if not all are bad ones, downright corny.

    Have you worked with Rex? Charges of hostile work environments and harrassment based on what? Talking to Rex (or anyone for that matter) at a BBQ is a pretty piss poor indicator of how someone behaves at work.

    From your own bitter posts it sounds as if you might be a walking, talking hostile work envornment all by yourself; I mean, heck you’ve been making some conclusions based upon supposedly interacting with him in social situations, I’m sure my conclusions about you based on your posts here in heraldoville are at least as valid as yours.

  94. Anonymous
    January 26, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Yep, Rex is just a regular kind of guy who tells corny jokes, not meaning to harm anyone. He tried to do his best as a parent, and he tries to stay super involved with his community. I don’t agree with his politics and I don’t fall into the category of right wing, but he means well and is a good guy, will do his homework. He gives a lot back to the community. These are all true statements. If you disagree with his politics just don’t vote for him.

  95. Anonymous
    January 27, 2012 at 12:37 am

    Will local media reveal Bohn’s politics, or give the next right-winger a pass, like they always do?

    Every 2 years, not one reporter asks a city council candidate how the big boxes and sprawl they support would help the local economy.

    713 says:
    January 26, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    “…local liberal candidate’s spending has been pretty close to conservative candidates in most races”.

    In Eureka city council races only about 6 candidates have won without the backing of the development community in the last generation.

    Can you name them?

    They are always outspent with one or two exceptions, often 2 to 1.

    Eureka’s right-wing legacy of candidates have no ideas, no vision, and no leadership. Rex Bohn’s vision is limited to saying “yes” to any industry that would have us and merely ignore the public costs, because Eureka doesn’t deserve any better.

    Bohn could have won his city council seat if he had simply muttered incoherently like McKeller or Hunter-Meeks. it’s the money that wins. Not the “issues” or the candidate.

  96. 713
    January 27, 2012 at 6:02 am

    http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_17411622

    In 2006, Neely reported spending more than $163,575 to challenger Nancy Flemming’s $181,000, for a total of more than $344,000.

    This year, according to the filings, Gallegos and challenger Allison Jackson combined to spend $371,221, with Jackson shelling out almost $150,000. In the end, Gallegos spent the equivalent of $8.80 per vote he received, while Jackson spent $6.47.

    The battle to become Humboldt County’s 4th District supervisor, which saw former Eureka Mayor Virginia Bass unseat 24-year incumbent Bonnie Neely, proved to be the county’s costliest race. The two candidates combined to raise more than $389,000 and both wound up shelling out more than $50 in campaign spending for each vote they received. (Neely spent $53 per vote to Bass’ $50)

    In the 5th District supervisorial race, Ryan Sundberg and Patrick Cleary combined to spend more than $320,000, with Sundberg outspending Cleary by about $8,000. Cleary also pumped about $23,000 into his own campaign, and received a $10,000 donation from Blue Lake Rancheria after Election Day to help erase some of his campaign debt.
    In that race, Sundberg wound up spending about $32 per vote, while Cleary spent a little more than $31.50.

  97. 713
    January 27, 2012 at 6:08 am

    Oh, one more for fun
    http://californiawatch.org/money-and-politics/politicians-rely-county-parties-funnel-contributions-avoid-campaign-limits

    For their part, county central committees serve as conduits, taking money from donors and often writing checks to candidates soon after. Some of the most active central committees are based in the state’s least populous counties.

    In Humboldt County, for example, Democrats raised $55,200 in one day from the service employees union and other interest groups, then within a week dispensed $50,000 to state Senate candidate Hannah-Beth Jackson more than 600 miles away in Santa Barbara.

  98. January 27, 2012 at 9:16 am

    713: People on this blog do not want or care for facts, they want rhetoric. So back to the theme. “Damn Rex for those off the wall jokes!”

  99. Anonymous
    January 27, 2012 at 9:20 am

    how’s that LNG thing goin’?

  100. Anonymous
    January 27, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    “713: People on this blog do not want or care for facts, they want rhetoric. So back to the theme. “Damn Rex for those off the wall jokes!”

    Volunteerism is admirable and widespread in our impoverished communities, but hardly a primary qualification for supervisor, or I’d write-in Verbana.

    Bohn supporters have no other positive examples of his policies, vision, platform, goals, judgment…zip, what’s left but satire?

    Like the other provocateurs, 713 knows and cares nothing about the facts and simply ignores Eureka’s corrupt campaign financing history. Neeley, Gallegos, and Bass were county elections!

    Even Heraldo’s respite from the local right-wing incognigencia isn’t safe.

  101. Down the Road
    January 27, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    Oligarchy: Government by a few, esp. by a small group or class.
    Who do you think rules Humboldt County’s Oligarchy?

    Rex Bohn is directed by this small group. Big money is behind
    him. In all probability he will win this election. What a shame.

    How refreshing it would be to have a person elected that wanted
    all of the county to prosper and to be healthy.

  102. Thirdeye
    January 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Guess what, 12:14? The First District race is also a County Race! Have you seen a map of the First District? It’s mostly outside of Eureka. We get it. You think Eurekans are a bunch of rubes. My guess is that you think most people outside of whatever little ideological bubble you inhabit are a bunch of rubes. Better stay inside, where everybody thinks like you and you can whine about everybody else.

  103. anon
    January 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    To call the racist, sexist etc jokes that make up the bulk of Mr. Bohn’s repetoire “corny” is just sad. He uses demeaning, outdated and very un-PC terms for various ethnicities on a regular basis. I have found with Mr. Bohn, and I would guess any psychologist could tell you, that people who use those terms and make fun of whole segments of society that way, tend to believe there is validity to their stereotypes, jokes and comments. Which either makes them pathetic for trying to get cheap laughs and/or ignorant and educated. My original point.
    And no, Mr. Bohn doesn’t separate who he is at work from who ya get at the auction or the ball field or the BBQs at his house. Why then would we think he would be any different if elected?

  104. 713
    January 27, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Like the other provocateurs, 713 knows and cares nothing about the facts and simply ignores Eureka’s corrupt campaign financing history. Neeley, Gallegos, and Bass were county elections!

    Apologies, I thought this was a thread about a county race. Regardless, do you dispute the times standard report?

  105. Anonymous
    January 27, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Bohen is a good guy and will be the sup. You progs are freaking out. What will happen when your extortion tatics are laughed at? Maybe the county will get some positive things going. One can only hope. Katlin, RS. sneaky Pete, Cobb, Lovelace, Kalt, Miller, HCDCC, NEC, EPIC and the rest of the we know best for everyone else crowd will all be pissin their panties.

  106. What a gas
    January 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Rex knows Best. Let Rex decide your future. Calpine. Highly explosive toxic gas. Sounds good to good guy Rex. Must be best for everyone else. Try not to piss your pants before your last gasp.

  107. 713
    January 28, 2012 at 6:00 am

    Highly explosive toxic gas.

    How do you heat your house?

  108. Mitch
    January 28, 2012 at 7:06 am

    Psychologist Brian Nosek, University of Virginia:
    “They’ve pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics.”

    http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

  109. 713
    January 28, 2012 at 8:55 am

    i don’t understand.

  110. What a gas
    January 28, 2012 at 8:57 am

    713 is ignorant and too lazy to learn. Liquefied natural gas is dangerous, highly explosive and, yes, 713, gas is toxic. Have you ever tied doing a little reading before writing your ignorant opinions? Try Google.

  111. 713
    January 28, 2012 at 9:04 am

    remind me again, where did i say natural gas is not toxic?

  112. Anonymous
    January 28, 2012 at 10:11 am

    713,
    Yes, the natural gas in our homes comes with a risk. However, the danger of a domestic natural gas pipeline being broken and ignited is much less (in terms of area and potential damage) than the dangers from LNG. And, yes accidents do occur, even when were told the chance is low.

    Look at the map, especially the thermal radiation zone:
    http://www.northcoastjournal.com/110603/cover1106.html#map

    Then read the discussion of the risk within the article:
    http://www.northcoastjournal.com/110603/cover1106.html

  113. Anonymous
    January 28, 2012 at 10:16 am

    There is also an eerie parallel between having an LNG plant on a subduction zone and within the tsunami zone and the situation in Japan with a nuke plant on a subduction zone and within a tsunami zone.

  114. Mitch
    January 28, 2012 at 10:45 am

    10:16,

    Well everyone’s always saying they’d like Humboldt to be known for something other than pot. Eureka could be known worldwide as the city with the incinerated waterfront. (“All required safety measures were in place. An incident of this magnitude was not anticipated.”)

  115. What Now
    January 28, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Because of changes in federal law since 2001, the feds could determine that an LNG plant on our bay is “critical to national security” and bypass a whole lot of studies, planning and public input.
    Given the asshats that have been running things in D.C. the last many years, such a possibility wouldn’t be all that far fetched.

  116. 713
    January 28, 2012 at 11:05 am

    However, the danger of a domestic natural gas pipeline being broken and ignited is much less (in terms of area and potential damage) than the dangers from LNG. And, yes accidents do occur, even when were told the chance is low.

    I guess we will never know. Wasn’t the argument back then whether or not to allow a feasibility study?

  117. anonymous
    January 28, 2012 at 11:21 am

    “I guess we will never know”

    …especially if we remain willfully ignorant, like 713

  118. Anonymous
    January 28, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Ya, we’ll never know whether siting a plant with the capability, and the history, or producing a thermal radiation blast of a mile or more within a geologically unstable area is a good thing or not. I guess it’s just one of life’s mysteries.

    Is it feasible? Of course, similar plants exist elsewhere. Is it a risk this community wants to take – ask the community. They did, and the community said no.

  119. Anonymous
    January 28, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    713 says:
    January 27, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    “Apologies, I thought this was a thread about a county race. Regardless, do you dispute the times standard report”?

    Regardless of the fact that you don’t comprehend the 12:04 post that you responded to, do you dispute John Osborn’s 2010 groundbreaking research illustrating how a tiny group within Humboldt County’s development community dominate local campaign financing? (“Interested Parties”, NCJ)?

    It’s funny how the speculators, developers, realtors, brokers, bankers and their right-wing lap dogs fervently denied such “heresy” until one reporter changed the game.

    Now, they’re forced to excuse this corruption as “legitimate influence by job creators”.

    We must bow to our betters.

  120. Harold Knight
    January 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    120 comments and none of Bohn’s fervent advocates offer a single example of his platform, vision, goals, or leadership, in his defense? “He knows how to get things accomplished at city hall”? “He understands public budgeting”? He knows how to advocate for diverse communities of citizens”?

    Zip…Nadda.

    Astounding.

  121. 713
    January 28, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    1223 it was an interesting story, but it would have been a good story if it covered both sides. Somehow the progressive candidates raised and spent an equal or greater amount and there was no story from Osborne on that, was there?

    A bunch of conservatives donate 100,000 to a campaign and the progressives match it ( or it was the other way around) and there is a story about the conservatives. Sounds real balanced.

    You are just mad because you said progressives are outspent and always lose, when the fact is they generally outspent the conservatives and still lost. Or outspent the conservatives and won like Gallegos. Or didn’t outspend the conservatives and won, like the assessor.

    In any case, you are wrong.

  122. Local Campaign Finance Reform
    January 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    Not that facts matter in Heraldoville, but while George Clark rambles on and on about the rich Republican development community buying local elections, just who were the largest local donors in the 2010 election cycle?

    Blue Lake Casino $95,000
    Bill Pierson $54,000
    Humboldt County Democratic Central Committee $13,500
    Orange County real estate developer $10,000
    Dee Atkins (wife of local Forester-Gill real estate developer representative) $4,500

    (yes, Paul Hagen’s mother did give him $10,000 – but that’s a family member and Bass got $8,000 from the Humboldt County Sheriffs – and who doesn’t love law enforcement?)

    Want to take a wild ass guess which candidates gladly took this money from the 1% trying to buy political influence?

    Bonnie Neely
    Patrick Cleary
    Larry Glass
    Roh Kuhnel
    Peter LaVallee

    So where are all the angry “Move to Amend” Proggies screaming about big money buying local elections?

    Not a single word from David Cobb, Kaitlin Sociopath, Shane Brinton, Richard Salzman, Milt Boyd, Charlene Ploss. Phyllis Seawright, Dave Meserve, etc., etc.

    Go Rex!

  123. Anonymous
    January 28, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Phyllis Seawright is plain jane

  124. Plain Jane
    January 28, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Anonymous 4:36 is an idiot.

  125. humboldturtle
    January 28, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    LCFR, is that going to be Rex’s platform?

  126. January 28, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    LCFR: More truth with facts on Heraldo. That doesn’t work here. “Move on, nothing to see, go home, and hide your head in the sand.” I imagine that Rex will have nearly 1,000 individual donors before this over. Mostly people that have nothing to do with politics on either side normally. That is because of his community contacts, not his business contacts. I know of many people indebted, including my union brothers, of Rex’s community action. Not talk and promises, actual “progressive” shovel in the dirt work. I am sure that Rex and I will cross paths sometimes policy wise, but he is worthy of a chance to represent a district he has lived in for over half his life. (Disclaimer: I have known Rex forever so my judgement is based on experience. Not petty politics.)

  127. Anonymous
    January 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    4:36 is no more of an idiot than you, Phillis, I mean Jane, with your assumptions, and continued statements that HiFi is Steve Strombeck.

    Someone told me Plain Jane is Phillis, and well, given the standards shown by this blog as to who is who, I’ve more than surpassed the burden of proof.

  128. What Now
    January 28, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    “Harold Knight says:
    January 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    120 comments and none of Bohn’s fervent advocates offer a single example of his platform, vision, goals, or leadership, in his defense? “He knows how to get things accomplished at city hall”? “He understands public budgeting”? He knows how to advocate for diverse communities of citizens”?

    Zip…Nadda.

    Astounding.”

    Not astounding if you know Rex.
    He HAS no vision. His platform will need to be fed to him in a purely monosyllabic fashion for rote memorization, and his leadership is best manifested running a weber kettle with a beer in hand.

  129. just middle class
    January 29, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Phyllis Seawell, bingo!

  130. Plain Jane
    January 29, 2012 at 8:11 am

    HiFi admitted he is Strombeck, but I don’t care who he or you or anyone else is. I’m not PS, but don’t care who you think I am. You’re idiots for accusing me of being someone (like you know her) when you don’t even know how to spell her name correctly.

  131. Anonymous
    January 29, 2012 at 8:14 am

    No, HiFi did not “admit” anything – he did make a couple of statements about trips he has been on, as well as some personal history, and you (and others) made some conclusions based upon those statements.

    Nice try Phillis.

  132. Plain Jane
    January 29, 2012 at 8:18 am

    If you’re reading this, Phillis, sorry you are being smeared as being me. There is no reason for these idiots to think that and I have denied it before when the accusation came up. I don’t mind people thinking Plain Jane is you (an honor) and hope you aren’t insulted by them thinking you are Plain Jane.

  133. Plain Jane
    January 29, 2012 at 8:19 am

    HiFi admitted he was Steve Strombeck in defending what his father paid his logger and garbage employees, 8:14. Pathetic try.

  134. Anonymous
    January 29, 2012 at 8:21 am

    Nice try Phillis…

    You tried to make the connection to the garbage co.
    Interesting that you would consider an association with the plain jane pseudonym a “smear”

  135. Plain Jane
    January 29, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Falsehoods about people ARE smears, 8:21. Your complete anonymity hides the full scale of your idiocy, each is your “first” but even single posts like the one above prove you are an idiot.

  136. mresquan
    January 29, 2012 at 8:41 am

    hifi isn’t Strombeck.

  137. LoFi
    January 29, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Rex doesn’t campaign on an anonymous blog because he is smart.

    Rex has made public statements on a KMUD interview at his campaign kick-off rally fundraiser last week, attended by more than 1,000 people in a driving rainstorm when many people stayed home.

    Every day that Rex is out knocking on doors of the 1st District voters and raising more campaigns donations for his war chest is another day his phantom opponent has not filed her paperwork with the County.

    I recommend you drive through Eureka, Cutten, Pine Hill, Humboldt Hill, King Salmon, Fields Landing, Ferndale and Loleta to see how many cars already have “Rex for Supervisor” round stickers on their rear windshield.

    There are literally hundreds of cars from people who are not politically active with “Rex for Supervisor” bumper stickers.

    Notice how many people are wearing “Rex for Supervisor” T-shirts and sweatshirts while at the gym or walking around town.

    They are sick and tired of the no growth politics of the far-left that has a stranglehold on Humboldt County.

    Hey I’d sit here and post anonymously all day like Plain Jane, but I gotta go knock on a few hundred 1st District voter doors for Rex’s team.

  138. Governmentrentseeker
    January 29, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Who wouldn’t want the salary of a county Supervisor’s seat? Can’t blame Rex for being a government rent seeker, disguised as a conservative with values. Milk that teat Rexy,…and don’t forget to share.

  139. Anonymous
    January 29, 2012 at 11:38 am

    “Falsehoods about people ARE smears, 8:21. Your complete anonymity hides the full scale of your idiocy, each is your “first” but even single posts like the one above prove you are an idiot.”

    Of course you realize this applies to you as well, Phillis..Jane, with your continued assertion that HiFi is Steve Strombeck.

  140. Plain Jane
    January 29, 2012 at 11:46 am

    I didn’t make the accusation that HiFi was Strombeck. Another poster did and HiFi admitted it obliquely. When I asked HiFi about his inheritance coming from the exploitation of his father’s logging and garbage co. employees, he defended his father by claiming they were paid fair wages and has never denied being Strombeck. Either he isn’t Strombeck but wants people to believe he is or he is and won’t lie about it. Anonymous posters claiming he isn’t who he has admitted he is don’t have much credibility.

  141. January 29, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    “I know of many people indebted, including my union brothers..”

    SamoaSoftball.
    Here is one union brother that will not vote for Rex.

    China owned pulp-mill defenders are hardly what
    I call union quality.
    I wonder what you mean?

  142. 713
    January 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Union brother,
    What has the no growth lobby done for construction workers, teamsters, carpenters, and equipment operators?

  143. Anonymous
    January 29, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    “I didn’t make the accusation that HiFi was Strombeck”

    And yet you, someone who fiercly guards their anonymity has no problem in trying to out someone irregardless whether it was you or someone else who first made the claim – you continue to perpetuate the rumour that it’s S.Strombeck.

    . “Another poster did and HiFi admitted it obliquely”

    No, HiFi has never admitted anything one way or the other. Do you think Strombeck is the only recent vistitor to Hawaii, or has family member that were in a particular industry, be it garbage, or whatever?

    You’re a hypocrite, Phillis, I mean Jane.

  144. January 29, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    713, Oh I see.
    It is the no-growth lobby that ran us into the economic ditch.

    Give it a break. Look at Germany, there unions are called-out in their constitution, they are doing just fine, in fact better than the ‘right to exploit labor’ countries as ours.
    German auto-worker- $67.00 dollars an hour-
    medical is universal- schooling the same.

    You enjoy ‘right to work’? Me too.
    I also know what an American wage use to represent, no more-
    and it sure as hell was not the unions that ran us into the ditch.

  145. 713
    January 29, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    You overreacted. I just wonder why the unions would support elected officials that make decisions that seem at odds with the working people like being against richardsons grove realignment or construction of the balloon tract, or the railroad, or even the LNG plant for that matter. Those all seem like things the unions would support for their membership but they don’t seem to. I was just wondering how supporting a no growth agenda benefits the membership?

  146. January 29, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Union Brother: You must not have belonged to my union. AWPPW Local 49 175 members in Humboldt County. If you are and want to know what Rex did for your Pulp Mill union, call me and I will let you know how he helped workers garner wages that Chinese outfit Evergreen Pulp was trying to escape paying.

    But if you belong to any other union and are not supporting Rex, that is your perogative. Just who are you supporting?

  147. January 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Sheesh, that was not over-reacting.
    I am a worker.
    I am an environmentalist.

    Why see divisions in those whose interests align?

    It’s the original Green Party ethic, Labor/Environment,
    do not cause a rift where a rift does not exist.

    A sustainable growth agenda benefits all and is not to be considered optional.
    If you are under the impression that Labor and Environment
    are incompatible, I believe you are wrong.

  148. January 29, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    SS, I have no candidate to recommend.
    I am sorry, I wish it were different.

    How about Annette De Modena, pretty name, is she smart?

  149. Plain Jane
    January 29, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Just how many Humboldt County garbage company / logging company owners left fortunes to their kids who are on the BOD of a bank who went to Hawaii at the same time Strombeck did? You’re too funny 12:48.

  150. 713
    January 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    I only ask because I know several workers who complain their union supports people who work against their industry and are frustrated their dues go for these activities and also they are asked to phone bank for people they don’t support. I was wondering why. These are local mill workers and construction workers that I went to school with.

  151. January 29, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    713, By now I would have supposed that the mill workers understand as well as anyone that the hippies were right.
    We over harvested, it’s called greed, and not a union value.
    Your worker friends who do not learn are cursed to present their children with amplified troubles. Sustainability- demand it.

  152. 713
    January 29, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Right now they are more concerned with keeping food on the table and a roof over their heads. What is unsustainable about the Richardson grove realignment? Or a railroad?

    I don’t think labor and the environment are incompatible but I never mentioned the environment, you did. I mentioned an anti growth agenda, which I believe is different than environmentalism or sustainable growth, unless you are saying that environmentalism means no growth.

  153. mresquan
    January 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    713,are you saying that Rex and his allies who are now against the Forrester-Gill proposal,could change their stance?

  154. High Finance
    January 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Plain Jane’s hypocrisy cracks me up.

    She says that anybody’s indentity is of no interest to her and then she posts endlessly about who she thinks I am.

    Curiouser and curiouser, she (Plain Jane or Phyllis or whoever) wonders about nobody else except me. Should I be afraid or complimented ? Perhaps she has a crush on me ?

    Then even Mresquan (Mark to his friends) jumps in as well. I am very confused.

  155. Plain Jane
    January 29, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Just responding to posts directed to me on the subject, HiFi. If you don’t want it discussed tell your wife (or kids) to drop it.

  156. 713
    January 29, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    I am not sure what Forster gill has to do with union workers, Richardson Grove, the balloon tract, or a railroad. I don’t know who Rex’s allies are, and if they are for or against Forster gill and why. So, I guess, no? Yes? I don’t know.

    are you saying that if Rex was for workers and against the environmentalists and the environmentalists are for forster gill then Forster gill would be for the environment and Rex would therefore oppose it? I hope so, Man I hate that environment. Hate it!

    Or are you saying that if Rex supported Forster gill the environmentalists would support Rex?

  157. January 29, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    The argument Labor VS Environment is a false one.
    It could very well be how the 1% screws with the 99%.

  158. Anonymous
    January 29, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    You’re a pathetic hypocrite, Jane. Spin away all you want Phillis.

  159. Not A Native
    January 29, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Since the Forster Gill project would create many construction jobs, and creating those jobs is his highest priority, why would Rex be against it?

  160. January 29, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    I say out-sourcing manufacturing is a lot like treason. It screws the American worker, weakens the country and supports our enemies. But a lot of so-called “Conservatives” support people who’ve gotten rich by stabbing the United States in the back.
    Unions built this country and now through bribery and corruption they’ve been betrayed by the very people they helped elect.
    The “Jews-for-Hitler” hate unions. They hate the idea of public-[anything]. They hate America. The wealthy 1% hate America. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rhupert Murdoc; hate America. Their words to the contrary are meaningless. Their actions are very clear. Subvert the health of the economy. Weaken government agencies. Outsource the manufacturing to undermine families. Promote policies that create enemies through injustice and hypocrisy. Promote and create wars. Destroy the citizenry through corrupt courts. Subvert the constitution.
    All these things are the actions of an enemy.
    “….all enemies both foreign and domestic.”

  161. January 29, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Anon@5:03, if you have something to add
    to discussions feel free- I am all ears.
    Why waste your time attacking an entity when
    you could be making a point?

    One reason I read these posts is to read PJs take.
    Pathetic or hypocrite she is not.

  162. 713
    January 29, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    NAN,
    The only thing I can think of is the inadequate sewer delivery and road system. Other than that it looks good.

  163. Thirdeye
    January 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Environmentalists have been talking out both sides of their mouths about economic matters for years. When the rubber hits the road and it’s time to take action, they’re almost invariably anti. That’s when we hear all the fine words about great things in the future that will make environmentalists and workers sing Kumbaya.

    It would be fun if a proposal for a short sea shipping terminal across the street from the balloon track “wetlands” actually materialized and its impacts were being discussed in a concrete way. Environmentalists would be spinning.

    There isn’t a shortage of standing timber on local timberlands. There is a shortage of domestic markets. That’s why we’re starting to export logs to China. If anyone wants to complain about that not generating local value-added products, they need to consider what it would take to make a local value-added products industry viable (hint: it might offend green sensibilities).

  164. anonymous
    January 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    “That’s why we’re starting to export logs to China.”

    Check again, Thirdeye. China markets have shut down. Notice the stockpile of logs? Use the two good eyes, the third one, in your case, is blind.

    Value added? Like the business park does in geenland, Arcata, land of the anti. Land of environmentalists? Care to compare your economy with theirs?

    Kunmbaya? How original.

  165. Thirdeye
    January 29, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    OK, then take the logs to Aldergrove and let some brilliant soul there figure out how to make them into high value products. And do it without environmental impacts of manufacture and transportation that are unacceptable to greenies. And do it in an economically realistic fashion.

  166. Not A Native
    January 29, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Any upgrading of the sewer and road systems necessitated by Forster Gill is part of the many created construction jobs. Its all one project. All of those items get identified in the EIR and further specified in the zoning/planning approval process. And local government has authority to calculate a fair share of the sewer/road costs that new residential/business buildings should incur.

    So again, why would Rex be against a large project that will create many jobs?

  167. What Now
    January 30, 2012 at 12:00 am

    “High Finance says:
    January 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    ” I am very confused.”

    That happens evertime you experience one of your brief fleeting moments of sobriety, Fried.

  168. Thirdeye
    January 30, 2012 at 12:08 am

    NAN, it would take a lot to get Eureka’s sewer and transportation infrastructure in a state able to absorb development on the scale of the Forster-Gill proposal. If the City of Eureka and Forster-Gill came to terms on Forster-Gill underwriting some pretty significant upgrades to Eureka’s sewer and transportation infrastructure, that would be great. But it being that Forster-Gill is in business to make money, that’s unlikely to happen.

  169. High Finance
    January 30, 2012 at 7:00 am

    GotMyGoat, interesting comment by you at 7.30pm.

    Why no similiar comment directed to the poster at 12.00am ?

  170. Plain Jane
    January 30, 2012 at 8:06 am

    Are you hung-over, HiFi? Is it difficult to understand that someone posting at 7:30 pm may not have read so couldn’t comment on a post at 12:00 am, 4 1/2 hours later?

    3rd Eye, didn’t Forster-Gill say they were willing to help fund the infrastructure upgrades to meet the increased demand their project would create?

  171. Plain Jane
    January 30, 2012 at 8:10 am

    And even if Forster-Gill was willing to pay more than the cost of the upgrades, how would that change the minds of Eureka’s business elite who are opposed on the basis retail competition or the City’s because of lost sales tax revenues?

  172. Not A Native
    January 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

    I was addressing 713 7:55 concerning Rex’s possible concerns. No need to bring up ideas about ‘special business interests’ if Rex is his own man and completely dedicated to bringing construction jobs to HumCo.

  173. Just Middle Class
    January 30, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Plain (Phyllis) Jane and Nan,
    Do you forget that the biggest contributor to keeping retail competition out of Eureka is Bill Pierson, supporter of “progressive” candidates? Phyllis, as the Democratic Central Committee’s treasurer, you also know about how money has gone to people who do not want competition in Eureka. Although you are complaining about Rex’s positions that he does not even have, you ignore your own information. Odd, to say the least, or rather expected.

  174. High Finance
    January 30, 2012 at 8:56 am

    yeah right PJ 8.06am, it is just a matter of time before GotMyGoat will respond. How much time should we allow before he is a hypocrite ?

    Have you started smoking already this morning ?

  175. Plain Jane
    January 30, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Again, I am not Phillis and I haven’t said a word about Rex or his positions.

  176. Plain Jane
    January 30, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Being so quick to claim victim hood that you accuse someone of hypocrisy for not criticizing a post you don’t even know they read, HiFi, isn’t reasonable HiFi.

    Your drivel never gets me to smoking level, but it’s good for a few chuckles occasionally.

  177. High Finance
    January 30, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    Pathetic. Just admit it PJ, GotMyGoat is just another hypocrite. It has now been almost an entire day.

    I never “chuckle” at your posts. But sometimes your lack of logic or thought scares me when I realize you represent a growing number of people.

  178. Thirdeye
    January 30, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Whatever fine words there may be from Forster-Gill about helping defray infrastructure costs are just fine words until there’s a real agreement with real numbers. We’re talking about serious effort from engineers, accountants, and lawyers. It would be much simpler if there were a mechanism already in place for such a situation – either a realistic GPU that considers the local infrastructure impacts of concentrated development or annexation by Eureka.

    I think the tax revenue concern is legit. There are lots of areas on the fringes of Eureka that impact City services and infrastructure but don’t contribute to the tax base. More cause for annexation.

    I don’t think there’s any substance to PJ’s claim that Eureka businesspeople are opposing Forster-Gill because of fear of competition. Some of them might even see an opportunity to make some bucks.

  179. Plain Jane
    January 30, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Again HiFi, if you don’t know that they’ve even read this blog since their last post, you are an idiot for accusing them of anything because they don’t meet your time frame.

    I’ve read posts here complaining about the lost business that Eureka retailers would suffer with Forster-Gill’s planned businesses, 3rd Eye. Whether they were business owners, developers who want to build elsewhere and don’t want the F-G competition or what, I have no way of knowing, and neither do you.

  180. Mitch
    January 30, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    PJ,

    “…I realize you represent a growing number of people.”

    Hmmm.

  181. Anonymous
    January 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    713: “The only thing I can think of (for Bohn to oppose Forster Gill) is the inadequate sewer delivery and road system. Other than that it looks good”.

    Hilarious!

    The reason the local development community dominates campaign financing is the obvious success they’ve had in building local cities into moratoriums…while their political lap dogs look the other way…and vote accordingly.

    The speculators cashed-in while residents can’t walk, cycle or drive safely, their sewage flows into the gulches and Humboldt Bay, there’s little affordable housing, and even less in-fill.

    The only liberal political majority is in Arcata, where business tax revenues are the highest. Yet, they blame liberals for imaginary “no growth” groups undermining living-wage jobs in Humboldt County!?

    Idiots.

  182. just middle class
    January 31, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Where to start: 1. Arcata is the most expensive place to buy and has the least home development in the county.
    2. Sewage is not leaking into Humboldt Bay.
    3. Most communities are not having infill because they are already completely built out.
    4. You ignore the fact that your claim of “development community donination” of campaign financing is false: check the donations and you will see that Bill Pierson and the Blue Lake Rancheria are the largest contributors to campaigns. Do not let the facts get in the way of your opinion.
    5. The candidates who win, like in Eureka, win because they are the ones that the electorate supports. Remember Bonnie Neely and Larry Glass lost by huge amounts because they no longer had the support of thier electorates.
    If you have never built a home in Humboldt County you have never had the experience of why housing is expensive. A perefect example of how screwed up Humboldt County is is the case of the Jacoby Creek boys stumphouse. Now there is a topic for discussion!

  183. January 31, 2012 at 8:57 am

    ” Sewage is not leaking into Humboldt Bay.” JMC

    There is no seepage? Maybe FEMA/NOAA has a comment or two on sewage plants in the V-Zone? Shall we ignore them, like we do on our ocean coast-line?

    “Jacoby Creek boys stumphouse. Now there is a topic for discussion!”

    Love to hear it.

  184. January 31, 2012 at 9:39 am
  185. Plain Jane
    January 31, 2012 at 9:54 am

    When compiling data as to who gave what to who, in which column do you put the cost of the special interest ads attacking candidates that are aired many times a day, 365 days a year for years? Sunshine for Humboldt ads smearing Neely is a prime example.

  186. Bohn Head
    January 31, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Patrick Cleary’s own words on the Lost Coast Outpost blog:
    If the Progressives are going to run a candidate — and the rumors still swirl that Patty Berg, Greg Conners or Mel Kreb may consider a run — then they better be prepared for a Bohn juggernaut.”

    The undisputed king of fund-raising for last year was First District candidate Rex Bohn, which many expected, but the sheer size of his efforts was jaw-dropping — $78,689 in cash contributions raised, not including $2,300 he lent his campaign and in-kind contributions. He finished the year with $54,712 in the bank, and that does not include the reported $50,000 he raised at his January kickoff fund-raiser.

    Thus far, his totals dwarf that of his only declared opponent, Annette deModena, who raised only $1,400 in cash contributions — $1,100 from one supporter — plus a $2,100 loan.

    Just think Patty – you can get $50,000 from Bill Pierson and $50,000 from the Blue Lake Casino.

    I’m sure the voters will see past the fact that Bohn’s contributions were from thousands of people and yours were from two of the 1%ers.

  187. humboldturtle
    February 1, 2012 at 7:07 am

    The filing deadline is February 23. Plenty of time…

  188. just middle class
    February 1, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Isn’t Mel Kreb Cliff’s Planning Commissioner? If so, he lives in Cliff’s District or will he move and resign the PC post?

  189. humboldturtle
    February 1, 2012 at 7:27 am

    Mel has been gerrymandered into the 1st District.

    He would be a super supervisor.

  190. just middle class
    February 1, 2012 at 7:42 am

    If he does not live in Cliff’s District then he needs to resign the Planning Commission.

  191. February 1, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Union Brother says:
    January 29, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    SS, I have no candidate to recommend.
    I am sorry, I wish it were different.

    How about Annette De Modena, pretty name, is she smart?
    ——————————————————-
    The question above was asked days ago.
    Has Annette been blacklisted?
    If she is the only alternative to Rex,
    who is she?

  192. humboldturtle
    February 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Mel lives near the Avenue of the Giants. Stafford and Scotia are also in the 1st now. It’s NEW!

  193. Anonymous
    February 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    As I sit here reading all of this, one thing comes to mind? Is that Pit-bull neutered, or has robbie and the likes of the elitists just got Rex’s balls in their pockets as he sits on their laps waiting for a scrap to pay his bills. Its apparent to me Rex is bought and paid for, plain and simple. Rex has no business being in politics and I really question strombecks ability to do the right thing for any reason except his pocket. If it wasn’t for daddy leaving him money Stevie would probably working as the greeter at walmart like the rest of us!

  194. 713
    February 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    “Mel lives near the Avenue of the Giants. Stafford and Scotia are also in the 1st now. It’s NEW!”

    should he still be on the planning commission as Clendenen’s pick? I thought they were specific to districts except the two at-large commissioners.

  195. Just Middle Class
    February 1, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Rex has every reason to be in polotics, because he has a long history of community service and polotics is community service. He is a good hard working guy that will well represent his district. All this bought and paif for stuff is just BS.

  196. February 1, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Come on JMC, give Annette a looksee.

  197. humboldturtle
    February 1, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    713, I think there’s an effective date. No plot or anything.

  198. tra
    February 1, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    “should he still be on the planning commission as Clendenen’s pick? I thought they were specific to districts except the two at-large commissioners.”

    I think the way it works is that if they end up outside their district due to re-districting, they’re allowed to finish out their term.

  199. Anonymous
    February 1, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    OK JMC, you answered that question but, what about the neutered part. I think you should not drink befo posting..He will definitely swallow all robbie has instore for him and more. I wonder if he will get free rides in robbies jet like virginia. Even strombeck cant afford a jet. I bet stevie is working on a free ride by now. Sherri was in fine form at the Humane Society auction last weekend. She is such a lady?? Listening to her tell everyone to shut up was wonderful and watching nancy flemming bow down was a sight to see.

  200. High Finance
    February 2, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    You sound like you are consumed with hate & envy. Your life must be awful.

    Get some help dude.

  201. What Now
    February 2, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    “High Finance says:
    February 2, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    You sound like you are consumed with hate & envy. Your life must be awful.

    “Get some help dude.”

    Yet again, Highly Fried drunkenly has bravely staggered and lurched from the liquor cabinet to the keyboard in order to confirm that the only difference between a “brown nose” and a “shithead” is depth perception.

    ‘Fried, you’re a real piece of work.

    You’ve managed to attain the mythical level of a “permanent suppository” for Robin Arkley Jr.

  202. Bilt Moyd
    February 14, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    The best our local Proggies could come up with to take on the Bohn machine is… Greg Conners? The insurance guy?

    Are you freaking kidding me!?

    Is this the same guy who couldn’t get elected door man at his own church? Ask him about that scandal.

    Is this the same guy who previously lost a Supervisor race to Bonnie Neely in the 90s? Now he wants to lose another Supervisor race.

    Is this the same guy who once had his own blog (Greg & Carol’s blog) and picked almost every single losing candidate to win in the 2010 election?

    Greg ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed, politics wise.

    He may get the Democrats to endorse him. That’s worth at least 10-15 votes. Hang on, wasn’t Greg Conners a former Republican?

    He ain’t gonna get Jimmy Smith to do squat. And that’s the endorsement he needs to have a prayer of getting past the June primaries.

    Bohn 60% +
    Conners 25-30%
    DeModena 10-15%

    Where oh where has my Patty Berg gone?
    Oh where or where can she be?
    With a cigarette hanging out her mouth,
    and her emphysema cough
    Oh where or where can she be?

  203. Rock Anda
    March 3, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Is Rex willing to abstain from alcohol during his term of office? Such a pledge would go a long ways in relieving my concerns.

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