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Pooping on Liberty

Too expensive, very inconvenient.

Democracies are fragile. Maintaining one requires a lot of hard, often invisible work, by a lot of citizens.  History is filled with examples of democracies lost.

Today’s meeting at the Board of Supervisors will serve as a great example of how democracies fail.

The Supervisors are not devils.  They are basically the sort of decent, civic-minded individuals you’d feel lucky to have as neighbors.  They probably pledge allegiance to the flag, and may even get a lump in their throats when they hear America the Beautiful.  But four of them (Supervisor Lovelace dissenting) just sold democracy out, and at a pretty cheap price.

There’s a special category of ordinance called an “urgency” ordinance.  It’s the sort of thing that is designed to be used to bypass deliberative debate when an urgent matter must be dealt with immediately — a tsunami, say, or perhaps an epidemic.  The Supervisors, assisted by County staff and lawyers, just passed an urgency ordinance forbidding anyone to be present at the County Courthouse, the local seat of government, from 9:30 PM to 6 AM.  They did things this way, I’d be willing to bet, so that the Sheriff and Eureka police can disrupt Occupy Eureka before any legal challenge can be mounted.

What did the supervisors just do?  They told you that you’re subject to arrest for being anywhere on the Courthouse grounds from 9:30 PM to 6 AM.  They told you that you’re subject to arrest for attaching a sign to a county building, or running a string from a county building to hang a protest banner or, since they must maintain a facade of content-neutrality, an American flag.  They said letting a protest sign touch the ground is a health and safety hazard.  They said setting a table out for leaflets is dangerous to our society.  They’ve passed the sort of don’t-block-the-sidewalk laws that police can enforce whenever they feel like it, enforcing the letter of the law for “lesser” people while ignoring any violations by those with whom they agree.

The Supervisors or their attorneys worked very hard to pretend that this is not about their distaste for the people engaging in protest at the Courthouse.  At least some of the Supervisors are clearly people of honesty and integrity, and yet they’ve managed to convince themselves of this lie.

Why am I confident in calling this entire ordinance one big lie?  Because it ignores the issues it supposedly addresses.

You know the NRA slogan, “guns don’t kill people, people do?”  Well, “string” doesn’t cause harassment, nor do self-stabilizing structures.  Individuals do, with or without string and signs.  Not one of the thirty plus speakers opposed to the ordinance favored the harassment of people entering the courthouse.  I’d be willing to bet that each and every one of them would like to see assistance offered to a mentally ill person creating problems, and would like to see our government prevent the mentally ill person from interfering with other’s visits to the Courthouse.  I’d be willing to bet that we’d all like to see anti-littering laws enforced at the courthouse.  If a 24 hour porta-potty were available, I’d certainly want to see that anyone defecating in public was dealt with by mental health or law enforcement services.

None of this has anything to do with the right to protest twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.  Somewhere in their hearts, the Supervisors must know that.

There were sideshows, of course.  The EPD police chief showed his support for the County Sheriff by declaring that he doesn’t do his job, either, not since February.  He pointed out that reading the ordinance wasn’t necessary to decide to support it. And the Supervisors’ chambers had a presence from some young, idealistic protesters who, after the vote, shouted a little bit.  From the other side of 50, it’s harder to generate that in-the-moment outrage at every injustice, and it’s hard to be surprised when people live down to your sad, sad expectations.   Thanks, Supervisor Lovelace, for doing the right thing.  One out of five is more than I’d expected.

Sicknesses often grow internally for a long time before they show external symptoms.  Our democracy has lasted a long time, but it’s also been showing signs of serious rot for a long time.  The rot is now exposed for all to see.  Stifling protest will not repair the rot.  It’s not clear what will, now that things have progressed as far as they have.

Democracy is closed for business, nightly at 9:30 PM.  It’s a crying shame.

(Note to the local newspaper: it’s safe to come back now.)

  1. Anonymous
    March 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Awesome. I love that progressives and conservatives could come together on this issue and stick up for the rights of the 99%.

  2. just middle class
    March 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    It is clear that the vast majority of Humboldt does not agree with your thinking. The Sups did the right thing.

  3. Mitch
    March 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    jmc,

    As someone (you?) pointed out on another thread, this isn’t a case where the majority is necessarily right. Neither was the treatment of tribes, the expulsion of the Chinese from Humboldt, the internment of the Japanese on the West Coast, the nationwide destruction wrought by Joe McCarthy, or the Bush invasion of Iraq, the wrong country. All were popular.

  4. just middle class
    March 27, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Your comparisons do not fit this situation. Humboldt has been very tolerant to the occupy movement and clearly the events at the courthouse have gone way beyond “free speech”. Camping, making a hell of a mess, blocking access, etc. are not expressions of speech protected by the Constitution. You compare with major national events. Elsewhere most of the occupy camps have been cleared months ago. You obviously feel strongly and should seek a more balanced perspective if you want a significant number of people supporting your cause.
    Also you compare with activities that happened during a different time and age where communication was not like it is today. Just think of how the public would support WW I if they saw daily picutres of the slaughter on the battlefield. Today the public is aware and does not support the occupy movement’s actions at the courthouse because they morphed the real message into a message of camping with a mess. If the movement had moderated its behaviour they would have been much more effective on creating the change which most agree with.

  5. Anonymous
    March 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Treatment of tribes? The Chinese expulsion? Joe McCarthy? Are you trying to be deliberately absurd? You might as well have raised the ghost of Hitler. LOL!

    Thank goodness the Supes won’t let .001% of Humboldt bully the rest of us anymore. Stand up to bullies. SAY NO.

  6. March 27, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Murl Harpham admitted today that:

    1) EPD hasn’t been enforcing current laws in front of the courthouse since February and,

    2) he hasn’t read the language of the ordinance that today became a law which he is now responsible to enforce.

    Why worry?

  7. RefFan
    March 27, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Thats norm for the far left. Evrythang compared is a far stretch from reality. Just like Bill who keeps posting and bringing up vid’s of the tea party protest. You cant compare apples w/asparagus.

  8. Anonymous
    March 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Why worry?

    Exactly, there’s no need to worry because now that the law has been passed, law enforcement will review the law and decide how to enforce it. I’d hate for my tax dollars to be spent on police administrators researching every potential law that might get passed, because plenty that try end up failing.

  9. just middle class
    March 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Now H., you did not complete the Chief’s statement … because our DA would not prosecute.

  10. March 27, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    The local Occupy Movement is not at all what it pretends to be. I just got a letter from MoveOn.org, asking me if I wanted to start an OWS workshop here. In other words, the OWS movement does not recognize Occupy Humboldt as a legitimate expression of the movement.

  11. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    My recollection is that according to the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the rights enumerated in the First Amendment, governments are allowed to place “reasonable restrictions” on the “time, place and manner” of assembly and speech, as long as there is a “compelling governmental interest,” as long as they are the least-restrictive option available, and as long as the regulations are written as narrowly as possible, not in an overbroad way where they are restricting forms of speech and assembly that aren’t interfering with whatever “compelling government interests” have been offered as a justification.

    Most of the provisions in the ordinance seem like they will easily fit within those parameters, mostly because those provisions have little or nothing to do with speech or assembly. Here’s the text of the ordinance:

    http://lostcoastoutpost.com/media/uploads/post/2475/new-ordinance.pdf

    I actually don’t have any problem with 90% of the provisions, and I doubt that the county would have any real difficulty defending those provisions in court.

    Where I do think they might run into trouble in court is section (e) under “Prohibited Acts” — the section that would criminalize a any protest that took place between 9:30 at night and 6:00 in the morning. For example, gathering for the classic “candlelight vigil” would now be a criminal act. That’s a traditional form of assembly and speech that has been around for hundreds of years, yet there didn’t seem to be any justification offered for why that kind of protest suddenly had to be banned outright, what the “compelling interest” was in doing so.

    I expect some protesters will soon put it this provision to the test by protesting after 9:30 pm, arrests will be made, the protesters will then challenge their prosecution and perhaps also file a civil lawsuit on the basis that this provision amounts to an overbroad and unnecessary infringement of a well-established form protected free speech and freedom of assembly, and maybe on the grounds that it was passed to target this one specific group.

  12. What Now
    March 27, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    OWS proponents have been fighting moveon.org’s hijacking attempts for months.
    Why seriously consider casting their lot with Goldman Sachs to fight Wall Street?

    Great article, Heraldo.
    Thanks for coveriing the event and pointing out the absurdly tortured logic the Gang of Four used to justify their passage of the ordinance.

  13. March 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    I’ll admit to not having read the ordinance, but I feel safe in saying nobody’s free speech has been limited or threatened by it. Protesters of any kind have always been free to carry signs and otherwise picket on the sidewalk in front of the courthouse. They still are.

  14. March 27, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Great article, Heraldo.

    All credit goes to Mitch.

  15. High Finance
    March 27, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    What a bunch of silly hysteria by the left on this ordinance.

    Freedom isn’t dead, the “protestors” are still allowed to sit & vegatate in front of the Courthouse every day & waste their lives. The restrictions in this ordinance are very mild.

  16. Mitch
    March 27, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    To clarify Heraldo’s 4:28 comment, you’ll notice a tiny “Posted by…” at the bottom of each posting when you are looking at the front page of the Herald. That will let you know who to praise or, if you prefer, who to burn in effigy. It’s only on the front page, as far as I can tell.

  17. Wally
    March 27, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Thank God these same pooping supervisors had the courage to spend $1million of our money to guarantee air shuttle service will be available for their friends and junkets. Too challanged to use a phone?

  18. YCBS
    March 27, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Maybe if the activists contributed to the supes’ past electoral campaigns the activists would have more traction with them.

    Raise some money for future political contributions. Hold a Poop for Liberty Bingo game. Map out the courthouse lawn in a numbered grid. Have people buy tickets to guess which square in the lawn a protestor will poop on next, and sell separate tickets for people to guess at what hour of the day the pooper will be arrested for creating a public health hazard.

  19. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Fred said: “I’ll admit to not having read the ordinance, but I feel safe in saying nobody’s free speech has been limited or threatened by it. Protesters of any kind have always been free to carry signs and otherwise picket on the sidewalk in front of the courthouse. They still are.

    No, they are not — not after 9:30pm. Any kind of protest in front of the courthouse after 9:30 pm, carrying signs and picketing, or even participating in a classic “candlelight vigil,” — that is now a crime. That’s new, and it’s certainly a limitation on our traditional right to freedom of speech and assembly.

    Maybe you should read the ordinance. It’s not that long.
    http://lostcoastoutpost.com/media/uploads/post/2475/new-ordinance.pdf

    As I wrote above, I have no problem with most of the provisions, because most of the provisions have little to do with speech or assembly, and/or don’t represent any real change in existing laws.

    But section (e), under “Prohibited Acts,” is where all protests on the Courthouse grounds after 9:30 pm (or for that matter any kind of gatherings or even a presence by a lone individual) have now been criminalized.

  20. Carla Baku
    March 27, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    What we are seeing here is what we are seeing all over the country. Namely, that it is much easier to love the tenets of the United States Constitution than it is to allow those tenets to be acted upon. That’s because when actual dissent happens—the dissent that is the hallmark of our democracy—it gets messy, and we really kind of hate messiness. All that shouting, all those emotions, all those bodies that require an occasional outhouse. After all, we’re trying to run a tidy little government here, people!

    The danger, of course, is that while our gosh-darn-swell-folks county supervisors rush to implement an ordinance aimed at ameliorating the messy old protest, they are chipping away at the ability of their fellow citizens and constituents to exercise their constitutional rights. There is a tipping point somewhere along the continuum between totalitarian fascism and violent anarchy; the problem is that those in a position of power—big city power or big fish/small pond power—often don’t see the trajectory of their decisions until the rights of others have been severely impinged, and the social balance goes far out of whack.

    Remember when Rodney King said, “Can’t we all just get along?” I hear the desperation in that question, and it appeals to my basic nature. I’m a pretty nice person. I try to be tolerant, to live and let live. But sometimes we can’t just get along, because the price of getting along is too dear. To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, vigilance is non-negotiable if we want to participate in a free society. I refuse to turn a blind eye in favor of being a “nice person.”

    In this country that I love passionately, corporations have been given rights as if they are individual human beings. That’s insanity, and our current economic upheaval is all the proof one needs to see that it’s so. Last month, a current presidential hopeful said that he doesn’t “believe in an America where the separation of church and state are absolute.” If that doesn’t make your blood run a little cold, I don’t think you’re paying attention. Do you want to bring the best ideals of your particular faith to bear in how you conduct your life? That is your prerogative and right. But it is clear as day that the most repressive governments on the planet are, and have been, those in which religious practice and civil government mingle. These are just two issues that have people concerned enough to risk their personal comfort, personal safety, and loss of community goodwill in order to speak out.

    Jimmy Smith, Clif Clendenen, Virginia Bass, and Ryan Sundberg, while I am not surprised at your choice to hurry this ordinance through, I am nevertheless dismayed. John F. Kennedy said, “Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate.” When such a weighty matter—namely, the First Amendment right to free speech of your fellow Americans—is directly affected by the outcome of your decision, it seems that time and utmost circumspection should be your watchword. That is not what happened in Humboldt County today.

  21. March 27, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    I am impressed!

  22. 69er
    March 27, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Congratulations to the Board of Supervisors for standing up to the riff raff that has taken over our court house for too long due to the patience shown to them from the beginning.

  23. Anonymous
    March 27, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    So I guess Actor Chief Merl will begin to enforce the law again. Even though he has not read the law he will enforce. How does one go about enforcing something they don’t understand? I don’t understand why anyone would ever consider making Actor Merl the permanent Chief Of Police. I think a recall of the Sheriff and 4 members of the Board Of Supervisors is in order. Do I expect such a recall? Hell no, not here in the Northwest corner of California. If laws currently on the books were enforced none of this foolishness would have ever occurred.

  24. Roots
    March 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    69er, the mentally ill and chronically homeless need more than patience. Compassion and psychiatric help is what they require.

    How many of the homeless are veterans? Heroes when in uniform. Scum of the earth when the stress of war manifests.

    Get them out of sight is all you can think to do, 69er?

  25. High Finance
    March 27, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Are you really interested in the question 6.04pm or are you just taking the opportunity to slam Harpman ?

    The ordinance was just released last Friday. Murl doesn’t get to vote on it, just enforce it after it passes. He had no real reason to read it before today.

    He will be reading it today.

  26. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    “He had no real reason to read it before today.”

    No reason at all…other than the fact that he made a fool of himself by speaking in favor of the bill while simultaneously admitting he hadn’t even read it.

    It takes all of about 5 minutes to read the ordinance, but Murl said he didn’t have the time. But somehow he did find the time to speak for at least 5 minutes about the ordinance that he didn’t have 5 minutes to read.

  27. Anonymous
    March 27, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    The protesters will persist and thrive once the police give up on enforcement because the DA won’t prosecute. Then the dazed paranoid occupiers with their painted bed sheets and slogans will march forward in their inexorable march to groovy nirvana where those who don’t think their way are to be sent to the gulag. Oh, if the non-believers would only have faith the goal would be reached!

  28. RefFan
    March 27, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    “weighty matter” are you kidding me? This has gotten way out of control & most of you are arguing something that should not be an issue. We dont want to stop all protesting at the courthouse, there hasnt been many, if any, problems before this occupy movemnet where all the rift-raft has joined. THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, THE CITIZENS OF HUMCO WANT THEIR COURTHOUSE BACK, PLAIN & SIMPLE.

  29. Roots
    March 27, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, THE CITIZENS OF HUMCO WANT THEIR COURTHOUSE BACK, PLAIN & SIMPLE.

    They want their courthouse back. Courthouse, symbol of justice and truth. American as pie. But….tis a blemish on our delusion of who we are. Could it be….mentally ill people? Kick them. Get them out of sight. Don’t look at the roots of the problem!! It could blind you. Delusion is a valuable shield.

    RefFan, you seem a very shallow person, not prone to deep introspection. You prefer the little poison packets delivered by Rush.

    I am curious. Are you a “Christian”? You know, this IS a Christian country. Ask Rush. What about you, Ref?

  30. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    If your idea of “taking the Courthouse back” involves banning protests for about 1/3 of the day, as this ordinance does, including long-established traditional uses like candlelight vigils, then you’ve mad it an argument about First Amendment rights, whether you like it or not.

  31. The world's smallest violin playing your song
    March 27, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Awwww, TRA doesn’t like Murl. Cry us a river.

  32. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    I see that you’re as unoriginal as you are immature. Congratulations, that’s quite a feat.

  33. Anonymous 6:04
    March 27, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    hifinance, yeah I want an answer and I took a shot at the actor. Why? Because he deserves it for his asinine statement. Hell, you don’t even know the man’s name what are you on about anyhow. The idea that a chief of police would support something he knows nothing about is a frightening idea to me. I suppose your alright with it huh? Silly finance boy! Your support of this foolish statement shows just how ignorant you are. Yeah, I’m taking a shot at you now, cuz just like the actor you deserve it!

  34. RefFan
    March 27, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    My religious beliefs are not relevant to what I was stating. I like the style of the courthouse, never had an issue with the addition, had better things to think about that were IMPORTANT. Tra, why do you think its ok to trash a city bldg that has the freeway go right by for all travelers to see? Do you truely believe anyone passing thru will want to stop and visit Eureka, especially Old Town? If this protest had more working ppl protesting, it would have merit & ppl would back it. It does not, so its a eyesore.

  35. RefFan
    March 27, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    PS, tra, the candlelight vigils should not be affected. No one has said that protests conducted in manners as in the past are bad. This occupy protest is a joke and since most Americans have heard the complaints, a new approach is warranted.

  36. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    “Tra, why do you think its ok to trash a city bldg…”

    Well howdy there, Mr. Straw Man. Sorry, not interested. But y’all have a real nice day now, y’hear?

  37. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    “PS, tra, the candlelight vigils should not be affected.”

    I agree, they shouldn’t be affected. But under this ordinance they are affected. In fact they’re banned, attending a candlelight vigil at the courthouse is now a criminal act if it takes place after 9:30 pm. It’s punishable as a misdemeanor.

    But don’t take my word for it, click on the link and read the ordinance for yourself:

    http://lostcoastoutpost.com/media/uploads/post/2475/new-ordinance.pdf

    The whole thing only takes about 5 or at most 10 minutes to read. The section that criminalizes any presence on the Courthouse grounds after 9:30pm is section (e) under “Prohibited Acts.” That will take about 30 seconds to read. So take a look at the ban on any presence or gathering on the Courthouse grounds after 9:30, and the short list of exceptions (which does not include an exception for any kind of protests, vigils, or other public assemblies of expressions of speech) and see for yourself.

    So, yup, they just criminalized candlelight vigils. Yeah, it sounds kinda crazy, but it’s true.

  38. Roots
    March 27, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    RefFan: “My religious beliefs are not relevant to what I was stating.”

    Oh, but they are, Ref. Your religious beliefs are at the root of what you say about what happens at the courthouse because the courthouse is a central symbol of our society, which, according to your ilk, is died-in-the-wool Christian. We (our country/society) are a Christian nation, drawing its value system from Christianity. Would you dispute this? Is the right wing wrong?

    I repeat: you seem a very shallow person, not prone to deep introspection.

    In other words, you lack a moral compass.

  39. Anonymous
    March 27, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    The Occupy “movement” is the modern equivalent of the Children’s Crusade during the Middle Ages. Not a good act to follow.

  40. FD&C Red
    March 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Take a breath Roots. You might consider a little introspective spirituality yourself. Aum….

  41. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    I think anytime any of us finds ourselves resorting to phrases like “you and your ilk” it’s probably time for a little introspection.

  42. tra
    March 27, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    “The Occupy “movement” is the modern equivalent of the Children’s Crusade during the Middle Ages”

    How so. The Children’s Crusade resulted in many thousands of deaths of innocent people, including children. The Occupy movement has not. Maybe you need to look up the definition of “equivalent.” Or just find a less hyperbolic analogy.

  43. Roots
    March 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    You might consider a little introspective spirituality yourself. Aum….

    Sure, Red. Here’s a little tid bit for your own (Aum…) introspection. Mass media stuff from Wicki, that you can easily digest.

    “Christian conservatives principally seek to apply the teachings of Christianity to politics and public policy by proclaiming the value of those teachings and/or by seeking to use those teachings to influence law and public policy.”

    Introspection time over, Red. Now, translate the teachings of Christianity to the way we treat our homeless. Oh, and don’t forget to BREATHE!!!…….It helps you think.

  44. Roots
    March 27, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    tra, you were doing so well in your recovery from the blogsphere. You are experiencing a relapse. Time to retreat and reflect. What really is the root of this problem at the courthouse?

    The real issue at this point is not free speech. The issue is the ugly manifestation of our society’s dysfunction. The OW movement had a legitimate message about a systemic problem. Now, part of that problem is in our face and under foot. Both “conservatives” and “liberals” on this thread are blowing by the real problem and focusing on the silly ordinance.

    Conservative will reference God (Jesus) as the source of their proclaimed morality, as they blame “the least of us” for the problem.

    Liberals lean on God, Buddha, Ganga, … and blame the “the system” for the problem.

    Neither are willing to actually acknowledge and deal with the dysfunction.

    Red/Ref /Hi Fi + tra/Humboldt county eco-groovy heads = Humboldt County denial + Dysfunction

  45. RefFan
    March 27, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Roots, one word, stereotyping. Doesnt work in this case.

  46. Roots
    March 27, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    stereotyping. Doesnt work in this case.

    Then make a case for your point of view, Ref. You have put yourself into the “stereotype” with your own words.

    Ref, you said on another thread, that everyone should just solve society’s problems on their own, one-on-one, and that government should not get involved with it. Tell me, Ref, what have YOU done in the last 6 months to alleviate the situation at the courthouse which you find unacceptable? How, specifically, have you applied your own resources to help the homeless?

  47. unanonymous
    March 28, 2012 at 5:58 am

    it is ok to shit in public if the County doesn’t provide a porta potty. makes sense.

  48. Mitch
    March 28, 2012 at 7:45 am

    Fears of selective justice by Humboldt County are hardly new. Let’s not forget that the logger who threatened to kill forest activists and subsequently dropped a tree on David “Gypsy” Chain was never prosecuted — instead, law enforcement tried to charge activists.

    And let’s not forget that local law enforcement’s “solution” to a nonviolent sit-in was swabbing pepper spray on protesters eyelids, and defending the action even after law enforcement was found guilty of torturing the protesters.

    I’ve heard many stories of the Sheriff dropping forest protesters off in the middle of nowhere without phone, food, or water.

    Basically, I just don’t think law enforcement wants to enforce the real laws — the ones against littering, harassment, public nuisance. They want to shut down a protest. A little bit of history helps to understand that.

    And then there’s what’s on the next thread up, the Judi Bari bombing. I’d never heard about this second incident, where law enforcement allegedly ignores an intentional rear-ending of Judi’s car, with her kids in it:

    AMY GOODMAN: I want to play another clip from your film, Who Bombed Judi Bari?, about another attempt on her life. This is Judi describing what happened.

    ATTORNEY: Had there been an incident in which you were hit by a truck?

    JUDI BARI: Yes, I was traveling to a well-publicized demonstration as part of National Tree Sit Week, and I had my children in my car and several of my friends. And we were rear-ended by a log truck that we had blockaded the very day before, driven by the same truck, the same driver.

    UNIDENTIFIED: Everybody’s pretty badly cut and bruised. Darryl is not in the greatest of shape. They had him attached to one of those wooden boards. As they were going through Philo on their way here, and a logging truck didn’t slow down coming into town and hit them from behind, propelled them into another car.

    JUDI BARI: There was no squealing of brakes. There was no warning whatsoever. Just simply a violent impact from the truck hitting my car. And I can only call it attempted murder.

    UNIDENTIFIED: Fortunately, no one was on that porch. They would have gotten killed for sure.

    JUDI BARI: And they refused to investigate it as anything but a traffic accident. And I think that what was happening was a real pattern of non-enforcement of law regarding our Firsters. And what this did it gave a green light to anybody who would attack us.

  49. Bob
    March 28, 2012 at 8:55 am

    let’s not forget that local law enforcement’s “solution” to a nonviolent sit-in was swabbing pepper spray on protesters eyelids

    I dearly wish the authorities had taken a simpler tact. Lift up the protestors and place a plastic tarp underneath them. Then, sit and wait for the protestors to get hungry and shit themselves.

  50. Mitch
    March 28, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Bob,

    You might be surprised to find how much cross-political-belief agreement you’d get on your approach. All it requires is common sense, and the removal of the attitude that “I’m fucking in charge here and I’ll do what’s fucking necessary to move these fuckers.”

  51. Mitch
    March 28, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Context. Freedom of speech is not only being restricted in front of the county Courthouse.

    It was very moving to hear one public speaker, a middle-aged woman who seemed perfectly responsible, begin to cry as she was speaking about what is happening at the Courthouse. (Of course, reading the local newspaper, you’d never know that she or thirty other speakers existed. Not suitable for Pravda.) What’s happening at the Courthouse is part of something larger, though.

    Here’s what happens when you try symbolic speech of the floor of the so-called “House of Representatives.”

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/video-rep-bobby-rush-told-to-leave-house?ref=fpb

  52. High Finance
    March 28, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Does anybody know if the cops removed the campers from the Courthouse last night ?

    I see the amount of trash and signs is more than ever this morning.

  53. def gem
    March 28, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Even ole Merle is not dumb enough to try to enforce an unconstitutional ordinance, he doesn’t want to go down in history as a complete laughing stock.

    Or is he?

  54. def gem
    March 28, 2012 at 9:35 am

    After all we are talking about a police chief who is on public record telling his officers to ignore a decision by a federal court judge and jury.

    When the next round of lawsuits atart he will be a star witness, dontcha think?

    How much do you think ole Merle’s mouth will cost the taxpayers of Eureka, Arcata, Humboldt County, Rio Dell and Garberville? Ya’ll are right, freedom of speech is not free.

  55. Bolithio
    March 28, 2012 at 9:47 am

  56. Anonymous
    March 28, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Shame on all of them who voted against what they KNOW to be the majority’s sentiment. We’re paying their salaries???

  57. Anonymous
    March 28, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Fantastic news!!! Thank you Supervisors who had the courage to vote to do the right thing and shame on Mark Lovelace for pandering to the vocal minority.

    As per what you are seeing throughout the country, from NYC to Eureka, CA, you do not have carte blanche to trample others’ property and rights in the name of free speech.

  58. Anonymous
    March 28, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    “shame on Mark Lovelace for pandering to the vocal minority.”

    The vocal majority was against the ordinance as well. Also, it’s the supervisors who approved the shameful ordinance who saw it carte blanche to pass a very specific and very specifically political law while siting their own manufactured reasons for not only evading due process but ignoring the very vocal majority at the same time.

  59. HUUFC
    March 28, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Congressman Bobby Rush is a clown, I wasen’t sure he was speaking English or if he was stoned or drunk. Nice to see the House of Representatives has rulesto govern their meetings. Too bad the occutards don’t.

  60. Leo N.
    March 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    The Boston Tea Party was a direct action by colonists in Boston, a town in the British colony of Massachusetts, against the British government and the monopolistic East India Company that controlled all the tea imported into the colonies. On December 16, 1773, after officials in Boston refused to return three shiploads of taxed tea to Britain, a group of colonists boarded the ships and destroyed the tea by throwing it into Boston Harbor. The incident remains an iconic event of American history, and other political protests often refer to it.

  61. Anonymous
    March 28, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Any and all future media corrrespondence with the supervisors who approved the ordinance should include unrelenting questioning regarding their decision to completely ignore the overwhelming majority who opposed the ordinance in their very physical presence. They should never hold any sort of governing office again.

  62. V. B. Assad
    March 28, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    You little people are always free to protest away as long as you do it where it doesn’t bother anyone. Especially don’t bother the fat white people who work at the courthouse (my peeps) when they are coming and going to lunch. They get just as hungry as any homeless bum does you know.

  63. Anonymous
    March 28, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    A majority of people who pack a meeting room on a particular day does not override the majority of the people who live in a county and who make their feelings known to their representatives.

  64. Anonymous
    March 28, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    High Finance,

    Using the term, hysteria, unveils your ignorance. Are you familiar with the etymology of that term? You might want to look it up.

  65. OUTLAW1
    March 28, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    WELL LOOKS LIKE THE FREEDOM TO PROTEST HAS HOURS OF OPPERATION NOW.

  66. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Mitch, dont start with the logging protesters. You prob had no personal involvement on that, I have. My Husband spent many hours helping to keep protestors out of logging areas, put his life on the line to kepp protestors safe, a job he volunteered to do. I wont get into specifics of the hazards that PALCO & SCOPAC emps faced daily like booby traps and road blocks of trash and feces.
    As to the protestor who was killed by a falling tree, those dumbnuts put themselves in that situation daily and it was bound to happen sooner or later. They had no right to be out there and that logger has to live with that.
    In another situation, a teacher from SoCal brought students up to protest an area with no food, water or warm clothing and left them out in the woods to fend for themselves. EF and others went about protesting logging the wrong and dangerous way.

  67. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 11:13 am

    “that logger has to live with that”

    That logger, if I understand correctly, was never charged, despite being recorded raging on tape that he was going to kill the protesters immediately before he fell the tree that killed David Chain. It’s what justice is like in Humboldt County.

    If your husband put his life on the line to keep protesters safe, he deserves all our thanks. And for protesters to have spiked trees or otherwise booby-trapped them is unforgivable. IMO, anyone who was caught doing that should have been jailed, and for a long time.

  68. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 11:43 am

    ” My Husband spent many hours helping to keep protestors out of logging areas, put his life on the line to kepp protestors safe, a job he volunteered to do.”

    gimme a break…that’s sub-lame. Keep your bedroom hero fantasies in check, lady.

  69. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 11:46 am

    “A majority of people who pack a meeting room on a particular day does not override the majority of the people who live in a county and who make their feelings known to their representatives.”

    …by packing the representatives’ meeting room on a particular day.

  70. High Finance
    March 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    You’re showing off an amazing lack of class 11.43am.

  71. Harold Knight
    March 29, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    “Pot, kettle, black…pot, kettle, black…”

  72. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    “EF and others went about protesting logging the wrong and dangerous way.”

    Every movement has its violent individuals, many have historically been FBI provocateurs seeking to quickly discredit entire organizations.

    EF’s cause was/is just and ultimately successful.

  73. ottiD
    March 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    My Husband spent many hours helping to keep protestors out of logging areas, put his life on the line to kepp protestors safe, a job he volunteered to do.”

    What was he doing when that logger intentionally dropped a tree on a protester and killed him? Giving hand signals?

    How sad, the logger who committed first degree murder “has to LIVE with that.” Obviously, the logger was the victim.

  74. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Law breakers = heros. Thats whats wrong with our country.
    Anon 11:46am, the fantasy im having right now is seeing you do some REAL work where you have to break a sweat, not sitting at ur desk typing on your Mac.

  75. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    RefFan,

    It might have something to do with the way our founders were terrorists and traitors to the King of England, asserting that the authorities didn’t really rule by divine right.

    Or maybe it’s something else.

  76. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    ottiD, were you there? You talk with the logger afterwards? Did you see what David was doing before the incident? Didn’t think so!!

  77. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    There are recordings and pretty extensive testimony. I think he was having a snack.

  78. ottiD
    March 29, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Oh Mitch, don’t bring up history and expect her to contemplate it.

    RefFan does not believe in thinking. Thinking is not REAL work, like some activity that makes you sweat is. Thinking is for lazy people. Apparently, so is learning to spell at 4th grade level, or even to turn on your computer’s spell check.

  79. Bolithio
    March 29, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Here we go.

    Two things:

    1) The logger didnt intend on killing him.

    2) EF! has no record of violent activity here in HUM.

    So both sides are full of shit, again.

    Mitch, your view of Justice appears to blinded by your narrative of what happened. You should consider adjusting your rhetoric.

  80. ottiD
    March 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    RefFan, were you there?

    Do you remember the logger telling David he was going to kill him, like eye witnesses remember?

    Did you see what David was doing before the incident?

    Didn’t think so!!

  81. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Bolithio,

    I’ve heard the recordings. Don’t tell me the logger didn’t intend on killing him. The logger committed, and got away with, murder.

  82. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Here’s one account:

    http://www.jailhurwitz.com/media/death_of_david_gypsy_chain_done/43_media.htm

    Here’s another:

    http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0110a/davidchainsettle.html

    The actual audio may still be available off of this page:

    http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9809b/gypsytape.html

    Here’s a transcript. Our DA’s predecessor wanted to prosecute the activists:

    Zoe Zalia: Here we go. There’s a clearcut right ahead of us. This is what it looks like after they clearcut. In the background you can see what it looks like before they clearcut

    You fuckin’ cocksuckers [ … ] in the trees and let the fuckin’ people who don’t know what’s goin’ on go to fuckin’ jail. We had patience yesterday. I stopped yesterday!

    [inaudible]

    Get the fuck out of here! You’ve got me hot enough now to fuck!

    We don’t want to cause you any problems.

    You already have! So get out of here! You cocksuckers! I mean it!

    When CDF comes out here they’ll tell you to stop.

    When the motherfucker shows up and tells me to stop, I’ll stop!

    … work … Well we should give ’em a chance to show up.

    Why the fuck weren’t they here early this morning?

    They were here early this morning?

    I said, “Why weren’t they here early this morning!”

    Because they’re in the company’s pocket. So now…

    They’re in the company’s pocket? That’s why they’re fuckin’ with us everyday, yeah?

    They’re not fuckin’ with you everyday, otherwise they would be out here this morning. That’s the thing.

    Get outta here! Otherwise I’ll fuckin’, I’ll make sure I got a tree comin’ this way!

    Alright, well let’s not talk about that. You know we’re not gonna…

    Cocksucker!

    [ … ]

    That’s all I heard out of you motherfuckers yesterday!

    [ … ]

    (Another logger) Why don’t you go over there and harass the other fuckin’ crew?

    [ … ]

    Why don’t you get outta this fuckin’ plan and go to the fuckin’ trees that ain’t been approved! We don’t cut anything that ain’t been approved, otherwise we go to fuckin’ jail for it!

    [ … ]

    Where you cocksuckers belong for being out here and fuckin’ with us!

    [ … ]

    Oh, fuck! I wish I had my fuckin’ pistol! I guess I’m gonna just start packin’ that motherfucker in here. ‘Cause I can only be nice so fuckin’ long. Go get my saw, I’m gonna start fallin’ into this fuckin’ draw!

  83. ottiD
    March 29, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Thanks for the quick research, Mitch. RefFan, is this what you consider pillow talk?

    Get outta here! Otherwise I’ll fuckin’, I’ll make sure I got a tree comin’ this way!

    Oh, fuck! I wish I had my fuckin’ pistol! I guess I’m gonna just start packin’ that motherfucker in here. ‘Cause I can only be nice so fuckin’ long. Go get my saw, I’m gonna start fallin’ into this fuckin’ draw!

    And then he did. Now, RefFan, you and I both know that loggers are good at making the tree fall exactly where they want it to go. I’ve watched them do it. I was very impressed. This was no accident.

  84. Bolithio
    March 29, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Yeh me too. You don’t want to differentiate talking shit with reality, fine. Loggers die every year. ONE activist died who shouldn’t have been there. I normally really respect your views. Not this one Mitch.

  85. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Bolithio,

    Here’s the tail end of my first link, describing the interview conducted by the Sheriff’s investigator (Freeman). Ammons was never charged with ANYTHING, as far as I know.

    If you think that’s justice, Bolithio, we do part ways.

    Freeman asked: “Would you have fell the tree had you known (people were there)?”

    Ammons: “Oh, God no!”

    Freeman: “OK. That’s what I need to hear from you.”

    Ammons: “From now on, I will get a limb and I will beat one of them within a . . . of their live(s) . . .. They’ll wish I was fallin’ trees.

  86. Bolithio
    March 29, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Why do you assume he intended on killing someone? Because he was a belligerent logger? Or because you just mistrust loggers? I dont get it. You have part of the story, and a narrative that fits. Murder!! Those are strong words. You find four lines from a dusty article and assume thats all the investigation that occurred. Its all cherry picked at this point. Which view do you want? We got this one or that one!

    And justice? They were sending kids from the flat lands into the woods to protest. Places where they should not have been. Kids who new nothing of the terrain, how logging works, how tall trees are and so on. I know because I was one of them. Thats why I left EF and went to school, where a guy could really make a difference. Remember, I have defended EF many times and will continue too, but this was a mistake – and I dont blame the logger.

  87. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    “You don’t want to differentiate talking shit with reality, fine. Loggers die every year. ONE activist died who shouldn’t have been there.”

    What a bunch of shit talk. Activists die every year. The loggers shouldn’t be destroying the planet as they are. Their industry needs to go belly up, clinging to the legalities of razing the planet and destroying the atmosphere for profit as they are. They can go find another job like the grown men we’re supposed to believe them to be…and like everybody else has to do.

  88. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    “Why do you assume he intended on killing someone?”

    Because he said he would and then he did. You’re a sad case, defending the guy.

  89. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    ” Or because you just mistrust loggers? I dont get it.”

    I think you’ve written a digital paper trail a mile long that says you mistrust “environmentalists”. And what do you do for a living again, Bolithio? How many clearcuts are you responsible for so far?

  90. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Bolithio,

    That’s an amazing story, and I’ll take you at your word.

    But keep this in mind — the same thing that might have made you an EF true believer (and I’m making an assumption here, so correct me if I’m wrong) might also be making you a true believer in your current industry. Nobody is completely pure or completely dirty.

    When someone is told by a Sheriff’s investigator “that’s what I need to hear,” and then (for heaven’s sake) makes an immediate bravado threat against the group whose member has been killed at his hand, that makes me wonder about the investigator’s neutrality when no charges are filed.

    When someone threatens to fall a log on someone and then proceeds to fall a log on them within the hour, it doesn’t mean for a fact that they’re guilty of murder, but I’d surely expect to see charges brought. And not against the protesters.

    If A.E. Ammons wants to sue me for libel for saying he’s a murderer, he’s welcome to. It’s easy to get my last name.

  91. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    You’re too polite mitch. I’ll go so far as to say if the roles were reversed, intentions or not, the activist would be facing murder one and Bolithio would be all for it. Also too polite with my own 2:19 comment. Bolithio has written an encyclopedia of proof to his inherant bias against “environmentalists”. We have before us one of the real sleazebags of the industry trying to come across like he wants to do something other than badmouth efforts to curb logging.

  92. ottiD
    March 29, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Ammons: “From now on, I will get a limb and I will beat one of them within a . . . of their live(s) . . .. They’ll wish I was fallin’ trees.

    Obviously, this man was filled with remorse. Remorse he still has to LIVE with, while the man he murdered is DEAD.

  93. Bolithio
    March 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Mitch, perhaps I am a true believer – touche. Im glad were still friends. Let us all remain a little pure and dirty.

    My defense of the logger (against the murder accusation) does not mean I don’t care about David, or feel that he should have died that day. It was a bad day all around.

  94. ottiD
    March 29, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Loggers die every year. ONE activist died who shouldn’t have been there.

    Bolithio, using this line of reasoning, I could aim my car directly at you, hit you, and kill you. Of course, no one could blame me because car accidents kill people all the time.

  95. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    ” Let us all remain a little pure and dirty.”

    Stuff your “we’re all in this together, we’re all a little to blame” bullshit back up your ass “Bolithio”…you actively work to discredit people like david on a near daily basis. You hit up different blogs with the exact same drech over and over and over, change your details and stories and sentiments based on who you (believe) you’re corresponding with, etc….you’re a real creep.

  96. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    He brought it upon himself, fucking with ppls lively hoods, it gets old really quick and tempers flare then shit happens. Its sad he died and it shldnt have happened but it was only a matter of time someone blew his top & lost it.

  97. Mitch
    March 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    RefFan says “He brought it upon himself… tempers flare then shit happens.”

    If there had been an intact justice system, your arguments would have received the response they deserve. They are despicable.

  98. What Now
    March 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    RefFan says:
    March 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm
    “He brought it upon himself, fucking with ppls lively hoods, it gets old really quick and tempers flare then shit happens. Its sad he died and it shldnt have happened but it was only a matter of time someone blew his top & lost it.”

    The same ignorant horseshit was bantered about by Jim Crow proponents in the south over lynchings, slave holding plantation owners fighting abolition, Indians demanding treaties be upheld, suffragettes who were jailed and most any other group or individual capable of intelligent reasoning that went againsnt “conventional values”.

  99. Jack Sherman
    March 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    In all the examples above, those in power accused blacks, women, natives, (and environmentalists), of threatening their livelihoods.

    Understandably so.

    Those who have made theft and injustice “perfectly legal” for generations, have everything to fear from sharing any political power, at all costs!

  100. ottiD
    March 29, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    He brought it upon himself, fucking with ppls lively hoods, it gets old really quick and tempers flare then shit happens….. it was only a matter of time someone blew his top & lost it.

    Completely understandable and acceptable, RefFAN. Because being really pissed-off at someone and incapable of controlling your emotions and actions makes murder inevitable completely acceptable. Sad, maybe, but still acceptable.

    RefFAN, I had thought you were a simple minded, typically ill-informed dittohead. Now I see that you are much worse. Despicable, Depraved, Delusional, and Dangerous Dittohead is more accurate.

    How many toxic kids have you contributed to our community, RefFAN?

  101. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    Cant have kids ass-wipe so try another liberal retort to something you are clueless about. Your narrow mindedness is toxic to society as a hole. Speaking of hole, what one did you crawl out of?

  102. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Ammons was not found guilty and the DA even considered charging Earth First! with involuntary manslaughter charges.
    Enuf on this topic cuz you ppl have no clue and dont see that trespassing is a crime and that EF was in the right and the loggers were out for blood. MORONIC THINKING. Maxam was the culprit, not these hard working American citizens making a hard earnest living. Something some of you will never experience. What is your house made of?(old, but a good question)

  103. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    RefFan drinks her husband’s poo poo on friday nights.

  104. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Anon 7:32 pm is my husbands poo poo.

  105. Anonymous
    March 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    “Maxam was the culprit, not these hard working American citizens making a hard earnest living.”

    History is replete with examples of “hard working humans” devastating their own environment.

  106. RefFan
    March 29, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    under whos control. Pull your head out & think with reason, not with the liberal mentality of unreason.

  107. Harold Knight
    March 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    From Wall Street to Main Street, it takes the force of government to “legitimize” the subversion of the U.S. Constitution and the looting of public treasure to enrich the wealthy.

  108. OUTLAW1
    March 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    ? ?????????? how this become a discussion about the courthouse to logging. logging our renewable resources is alright if done in a manner in which to preserve the enviroment. yes earth first diserves to be charged for manslaughter because they should not of been out there tresspassing. protesting is about not breaking laws to get a point acrossed

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