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Unwanted Eureka Wal-Mart seeks employees to screw

The Wal-Mart that Eureka rejected (but is getting anyway) is looking for some unfortunate souls to suffer the mega-retailer’s legendary bad treatment.

  1. OUTLAW1
    March 30, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Sense i been living here the price of everything is way to much. if it takes walmart coming for businesses to get more competive on there prices then let walmart come. if it brings jobs in to replace the ones lost in the timber industry thats a good thing. yes we need walmart

  2. tra
    March 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    The problem is, for every job WalMart hires for, there is usually a loss of more than one job at another local business.

  3. OUTLAW1
    March 30, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    i know there is bad reactions to all things being introduced into new inviroments but it seems to me that most the time its adaptable. then again change happens whether we like it or not. theres just less friction if we just go with the flow

  4. SmokeMonster
    March 31, 2012 at 12:00 am

    Please tell me some1’s just trolling,yes intentional play on words (or maybe ententional)

  5. Harold Knight
    March 31, 2012 at 12:03 am

    Actually, the real problem is having another U.S. rural economy saturated with low-wage, part-time, temporary jobs that push social services beyond capacity. It doesn’t matter that it’s WalMart, although, their track record for predatory practices that injure small economies and workers is extremely well documented thanks to numerous lawsuits.

    In addition to higher demands on welfare, food stamps, medi-cal, and housing aid, more poverty will mean more drug abuse, neighborhood recovery homes, crime, and the emergency services needed to respond.

  6. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 12:46 am

    more crime? more drugs? thats nothing new to eureka

  7. Can We Be Rational Here?
    March 31, 2012 at 1:23 am

    OUTLAW1: “More crime? More drugs? Bring it on!”

    Some people it’s a bit pointless to argue with.

  8. SNaFU
    March 31, 2012 at 1:48 am

    Go after Chevron & Renner for controlling fuel prices. Willits fuel is 30 cents a gallon less. Laytonville is even 10 cents cheaper than Humb.
    No one seems to be whining/attacking Pierson’s big hammer & ACE Hardware are ripping us off, I can hardly wait for ‘The Home Depot’ to make landfall.
    Crescent City has a WalMart ……and a Home Depot; the downtown CBD hasn’t gone belly up from those ‘evil’ low paying job ‘corporations’

  9. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 2:02 am

    Can We Be Rational Here? says:Some people it’s a bit pointless to argue with because they are right, if some one wants to shop at walmart let them. freedom of choice. if someone wants to work for them let them. its not like walmart is forcing everybody to work and shop with them. if you dont like them then dont do business with them. durrrrr

  10. 713
    March 31, 2012 at 7:29 am

    tra says:
    March 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm
    The problem is, for every job WalMart hires for, there is usually a loss of more than one job at another local business.

    Citation please. I do not believe this is the case.

  11. just middle class
    March 31, 2012 at 7:44 am

    Another HH hot button! A chance for the anti-walmart folks to rant about something they feel strongly about, but have no data to support their calims. Every employee at the new store will not displace another employee at another business. Walmart will reduce “retail leakage”. Yes it will impact other businesses in the same sector, but value shoppers will shop where they feel they have the best prices, and that is not a loyal customer base. Local owned businesses that provide good customer service will continue to thrive.

  12. Mitch
    March 31, 2012 at 8:43 am

    http://www.newrules.org/neumarkstudy.pdf

    ABSTRACT
    The Effects of Wal-Mart on Local Labor Markets*
    We estimate the effects of Wal-Mart stores on county-level retail employment and earnings, accounting for endogeneity of the location and timing of Wal-Mart openings that most likely biases the evidence against finding adverse effects of Wal-Mart stores. We address the endogeneity problem using a natural instrumental variables approach that arises from the geographic and time pattern of the opening of Wal-Mart stores, which slowly spread out from the first stores in Arkansas. The employment results indicate that a Wal-Mart store opening reduces county-level retail employment by about 150 workers, implying that each Wal-Mart worker replaces approximately 1.4 retail workers. This represents a 2.7 percent reduction in average retail employment. The payroll results indicate that Wal-Mart store openings lead to declines in county-level retail earnings of about $1.2 million, or 1.3 percent. Of course, these effects occurred against a backdrop of rising retail employment, and only imply lower retail employment growth than would have occurred absent the effects of Wal-Mart.
    JEL Classification:
    Keywords:
    J21, R12
    Wal-Mart, location, employment
    Corresponding author:
    David Neumark
    Department of Economics
    3151 Social Science Plaza
    University of California-Irvine
    Irvine, CA 92697-5100
    USA
    Email: dneumark@uci.edu
    *
    We are grateful to Ron Baiman, Emek Basker, Marianne

  13. Stoic
    March 31, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Ah Mitch you lost him at “endogeneity” these are not rocket scientists you are debating. Imagine that you are a 5th grade social studies teacher and begin again.

  14. Mitch
    March 31, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Mitch,

    Ignoring for a moment the study I cite above, we can simply use common sense.

    Wal-mart is highly efficient in its purchasing and also in its operations. That is how it provides lower prices. When you replace a wide variety of less efficient retail operations with an equivalent amount of purchasing at a more efficient retail operation, you have eliminated retail jobs (or, to be more precise, you have reduced retail payroll expenses — you might employ the same number of people but pay them less). That’s completely independent of anyone’s opinion about whether or not that is a good thing.

  15. Mitch
    March 31, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Stoic,

    Done.

  16. Mitch
    March 31, 2012 at 8:54 am

    My 8:48 was, in theory, meant to be addressed to 713. But it probably mostly acknowledges that I’m really talking to myself.

    Time to go offline.

  17. Scott
    March 31, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Thank you for your concise comments Mitch. The facts about the effects of Walmart on a local economy are there for anyone wiling to look for them.

  18. 713
    March 31, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Mitch,
    We have beat this horse to death and agreed to disagree if I remember right. If you want I can dig up the white paper by Obama appointee citing the “progressive success story” of Walmart again. I got “A” ‘s in both macro and micro economics, stoic.

  19. 713
  20. Stoic
    March 31, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Do Tell, 713!

    Since you got an “A” in macro and micro economics perhaps you could elucidate the flaws in the study that Mitch cited above.

    Don’t hold anything back.

  21. 713
    March 31, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I’m sure the study is fine. It is limited in scope to retail jobs, though. Read the paper I posted.

  22. Stoic
    March 31, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Well if the study is fine that seems to contradict totally your statement at 7:29 am. How do you explain this? Etch a sketch?

  23. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 10:06 am

    I know one thing its brought money in with just the contractors involved in constrution and jobs.

  24. tra
    March 31, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Rememberm, today’s backpedalers have a choice: Etch-A-Sketch or “Not Intended as a Factual Statement.”

  25. 713
    March 31, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Retail jobs, stoic. The study indicates they lower the amount of retail jobs and wages. As Mitch pointed out this is because they are more efficient. Where those workers go is the question.

  26. Anonymous
    March 31, 2012 at 10:22 am

    SNaFU said: ‘…The Home Depot’ to make landfall.
    Crescent City has a WalMart ……and a Home Depot; the downtown CBD hasn’t gone belly up from those ‘evil’ low paying job ‘corporations’

    What downtown in Crescent City? I’ve never found one. I was told there was one prior to the 64 tsunami. Is that what you mean by “landfall”?

  27. Stoic
    March 31, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Well 713 I actually did read your citation, and the author recommends these steps at the end. Are you in agreement with your author?

    “A progressive agenda to make work pay have many steps, including:
    • Raise the minimum wage in stages to $7.25 an hour, a $2.10 increase.
    • Expand the EITC by ending the marriage penalty and adding a “third tier” for families
    with three or more children. Or adopt more far reaching and progressive tax reform to
    benefit working families.
    • Help families save and invest by making saving easier and more rewarding for moderateincome
    families.
    • Expand health insurance, moving to a system in which every American has affordable,
    quality health insurance.

  28. Anonymous
    March 31, 2012 at 10:53 am

    10:22,

    That’s an easy question to answer. The profits go to Arkansas and to wealthy stockholders worldwide, the non-retail jobs go to China, southeast Asia, Central and South America, and the former production and retail workers go to the unemployment office.

    There, after sufficient time to marinate, they are reinvented as houseless “lazy bums” for the stockholders to complain about. It’s called Reinventing America.

  29. March 31, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Or as Mitt Romney would call it, “creative destruction.”

    A few fortunes are created and your lives are destroyed.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  30. 713
    March 31, 2012 at 11:02 am

    You are abstracting. Walmart will help the lower income residents of the county. That’s what I care about.

  31. Anonymous
    March 31, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Except the ones who are newly unemployed or paid so little that they won’t be able to raise a family even with full time employment at Wal-mart, or as close to full-time as Wal-mart will let them have.

    Or the ones who would like to buy more expensive products that will last longer and therefore be less of an expense over time, because they don’t buy into America’s consumer throwaway society.

    You care about the developer, you couldn’t give a shit about the lower income residents.

  32. Stoic
    March 31, 2012 at 11:11 am

    713, you can’t cite a study in support of your arguments and then disown the conclusions of the study you are citing.

    The author of your citation is arguing that there is no problem with companies like Walmart as long as we move to a socialist economy. Are you a socialist 713?

  33. jr
    March 31, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Downtown Crescent City has an office supply store, a new low-powered radio station (KFUG), several gift stores, a book store, a wine bar, several banks, a crafts store, several attorneys, two art galleries, a pet store, a party story, a women’s clothing shop, an artisan bakery, two restaurants, and other businesses.

  34. Anonymous
    March 31, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    jr,

    You’ve basically described two of the four sides of the Arcata Plaza, equivalent to one city block with stores on both sides. That’s nice, but it’s not a complete downtown.

  35. 713
    March 31, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    I didn’t disown them, don’t put words in my mouth. I said I care about the poor of the county. I want them to be able to stretch thir dollar as far as it can go.

  36. jr
    March 31, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    My observations when I travel to Crescent City is that neither Home Depot nor Wal-Mart has had much effect on downtown. The fact that Crescent City’s downtown is two sides of the Arcata Plaza, one must realize that Arcata has 20,000 people in the city limits plus McKinleyviile and Blue Lake close by. Crescent City has only 4400 people in the city limits and about 10,000 in unincorporated areas. I remember when Arcata was a sleepy town with few stores (1967). Crescent City today is similar to Arcata of that era.

  37. High Finance
    March 31, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    And leave it to Mitch to link to another discredited study about Wal Mart.

    Those studies are irrelevant to Eureka, as we have explained before, because this small town is not new to big boxes.

    We already have had Target, K-Mart, Costco, Staples for decades. Those local businesses that would have been driven out of business by Wal Mart are already gone. Those are the businesses that might be hurt but their employees are paid about the same as Wal Mart employees are.

    But logic and thinking are not the strengths of the rabid anti-Wal Mart zealots so flame on !

  38. Stoic
    March 31, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Discredited by whom, High Finance?

    Your good buddy 713 said it was a fine study.

    Perhaps you would like to display your superior intellect and debunk Mitch’s study yourself, since 713 is unwilling or unable to.

    Show us the money, High Finance

  39. March 31, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    “Logic and thinking” are not the strengths of blog commenters in general, and they are certainly not HiFi’s long suit. And good luck to you, Stoic. The use of reason is a solitary chore.

  40. March 31, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    If only we all had Mielke’s wisdom!

  41. High Finance
    March 31, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    You didn’t listen again did you “Stoic”.

    The local businesses that would have been put out of business by Wal Mart went out of business years ago. Target, Costco, K-Mart, the Bayshore Mall put them out of business long ago.

    You cannot name one locally owned store that would be gone because of Wal Mart now. The other big boxes may be hurt some but really, do you care about them ?

    Joel, your post was really weak. Try harder next time.

  42. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    lol can you hear it guys and gals its the wind of change.

  43. 713
    March 31, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Stoic,
    I don’t know what your problem is. I am not trying to debunk mitches study. I guess if you want to keep saying that, you win. I think Walmart will probably displace some retail workers. So what? Happens all the time. I think it will also lower the prices for goods and that will help the poorest among us. That is the takeaway from Mitch’s study and the paper I posted. The argument is whether you this is good or bad for all of us. I think it is better. The poor need a hand up, and if it starts with saving $1,000 per year on groceries, then so be it.

    I know you guys like to make fun of the Walmart shoppers as fat, poor, slobs. I guess it makes you feel good about yourselves or something. The people the left supposedly care about are the Walmart shoppers, the weakest of society. Those jobs that go away are most likely mom and pop shops who are barely making it anyway and paying worse than walmart. As hi if points out, we already have big boxes. You guys are acting like you are worried about small biz and locally owned places, but how often do you buy stuff online?

    And we will see if Walmart is unwanted, won’t we?

  44. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    i cant wait to shop there. i like the tv ads when the little round yellow ball with smiley face bounces around lowering prices

  45. March 31, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Ask anyone that’s lived in Crescent City and they’ll all tell you its a heck of a lot easier and cheaper to shop there than here in Eureka. Better yet, want a real shopping experience, take a run up to Brookings where they have a real (effective) downtown that competes. Local old-time whiners could take a lesson – oops, I forgot, they’re all asleep.

  46. jr
    March 31, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Speaking of Brookings, this town now has a Bi-Mart, a membership store that has incredibly low prices. It is also a worker-owned company.

  47. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    do they have a bimart here?

  48. March 31, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Those jobs that go away are most likely mom and pop shops who are barely making it anyway and paying worse than walmart.

    And some of those mom and pops can actually benefit from the bigger stores. I ran into a gal buying a whole bunch of foodstuff at Winco- more than an average household would buy. She was a bit self conscious because she was holding up the line because of some tax issue.

    She explained to me that she ran some mom and pop type corner market and that Winco offered better prices for eggs, milk and such than the distributors so they bought nearly all their goods at Winco rather than conventional wholesalers.

  49. jr
    March 31, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    OUTLAW1: I do not believe that Bi-Mart has entered California. It is an Oregon company with stores in the Rogue Valley and now Brookings. If I were Fred Meyer, I would be worried.

  50. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    walmart was voted out cause now local people have to get competive now on prices. at least i wont have to pack vasilene with me when i go shopping cause i wont be getting screwed anymore. yaaaaaaa!!!!!

  51. jr
    March 31, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Additional note, Curry County may institute a 3% sales tax. A decision will be made in mid Summer. If this happens, Californians will lose one reason to shop in Brookings.

  52. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    fred meyers in astoria oregon had higher prices and was right acrossed from costco but it seemed to still do really well.

  53. jr
    March 31, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    If you think Wal-mart has low prices, make a trip to Bi-Mart in Brookings.

  54. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    i will try i headed to cresent city soon.

  55. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    do they have a payless shoes here? if not i hope they get one then maybe people could afford shoes here

  56. OUTLAW1 take your head out!
    March 31, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Yeah, all us barefoot, bucktoothed Humboldt folk standing around waiting for a Payless to come set up shop.

    Shoes? What is those?

  57. March 31, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Outlaw1 has more than earned the bitter sarcasm of the 7:22 commenter, though I doubt that he’ll understand it.

  58. Anonymous
    March 31, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    We will change the world by criticizing a store on a blog, ha ha! Good thing you all are here while I am out taking your stuff.

  59. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    i luv sarcasm for sum strange reason it makes me fullfilled. you think it a good thing?

  60. OUTLAW1
    March 31, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    oh ya guys dont eat the brown acid. i heard it was bad or sumthing

  61. Thorstein Veblen
    April 1, 2012 at 1:15 am

    “I got “A” ‘s in both macro and micro economics”

    Yeah, me too. But then I realized that economics is designed to promote the moral and economic agenda of the super-wealthy. Our economic system rewards those who are worthy, while giving a hard time to those who aren’t. And for society as a whole, that is OPTIMAL!!

    So, tell me how the walton heirs are deserving of their ever-growing wealth, while the people who work for a living are deserving of being desperate from month to month.

    Economics, at least neo-classical economics, has become a religion, i.e., belief without factual basis, or even contrary to facts.

  62. What Now
    April 1, 2012 at 1:49 am

    Thorstein Veblen says:

    “Economics, at least neo-classical economics, has become a religion, i.e., belief without factual basis, or even contrary to facts.:

    Excellent sumation, T.B.

    Look at the accolades heaped on Laffer, Greenspan and others in spite of their idiotic philosopies and failed projections.

  63. Anonymous
    April 1, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Aw, come one folks, not everyone is going to be hurt by the Walmart! Just think of our own local, Mr. Carrington, raking in the cash due to the sweet lease deal he struck with Walmart! Surely he will pass down some of the cash to the peons who shop at Walmart??? Perhaps he will need to hire some locals to help him manage his monthly cash flow?

  64. A-nony-mouse
    April 1, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    And I thought HiFi had his head up his WooHoo to the knuckles. Outlaw 1 looks like HiFi on meth!!!

    Walk through the Bayshore Maul to see outr robust economy at work. Three more ’empties’ I counted this week (28 as of last week). I’m SURE WalMart will make it all better by sucking up what little is left.
    If all you care about is the owners in Arkansa, by all means do your shopping at the chinese welfare store. If you care about your neighbors and your town, at least try to do some of your shopping locally. Brains, children. Use ’em or lose ’em!

  65. 713
    April 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    What if you care about poor people who will save money at Walmart?

  66. Plain Jane
    April 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    You’d work to raise their wages so they wouldn’t have to contribute to the outsourcing of good jobs, cutting their own economic throats.

  67. tra
    April 1, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    But a race to the bottom is so much more fun, P.J.

    It’s the WalMart Way: Pay poverty wages at home, and pennies a day overseas, contributing to a povery economy that will continue to yield plenty of people desperate enough to grasp for the lowest price even when that lower price results in the further impoverishment of other folks just like themselves.

    WalMart’s slogan ought to be “C’mon In and Fight Over the Scraps.”

  68. Jr
    April 1, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Before simply assuming that Wal-Mart has the lowest price, shop at your locally owned and independent retailer. Their prices may be the same or very close to Wal-Mart’s. And if they are higher, ask they have any discounts or another brand that costs less. Same goes for grocery stores–better to shop at Murphy’s, Co-Op, or Wildberries than Safeway, Winco, or Costco. It’s that dollar circulation thing.

  69. Law Abider
    April 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    What HH & Co. seem to want to ignore is that WalMart is legal! My friend High Finance is one of the few here who understands this, also JMC. For decades, my family has lawfully operated a gas station legally. Sure, we pay the lowest pay possible and we charge the highest price we can, and sure, most of our employees qualify for food stamps (thank you middle class taxpayers), but this is ALL LEGAL. Now WalMart is here to sell us disposable junk but they will be creating jobs just like my family has been (more food stamp recipients in town soon). But this is all legal. So shut up, quit your protesting, and please fill up on your way to the mall. And please support my good friend Rex Bohn as he is true champion of job creation.

  70. What Is
    April 1, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Job Creation is Job One for Numbah One! That is Rex alright.

  71. Recherche Emocion
    April 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Can anyone give me a list of the jobs that Rex Bohn has created?

    I have a new flash drive do you think the list will fill it up?

  72. 713
    April 1, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Meanwhile they go deeper in debt pj. Good plan. How do I work to raise somebody else’s wages? Tell them to go back school?

  73. Recherche Emocion
    April 1, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    How about you 713 can you give me a list of the jobs that Rex has created? Maybe name one just to get you going?

  74. Plain Jane
    April 1, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Vote for candidates whose policies favor domestic manufacturing and universal health care, tax policies which favor domestic manufacturing,,higher wages and less wage inequality, social policies to make higher education, internships and trade schools more affordable. There are millions of people whose potential is never tapped, a tragic waste of our most precious resource. I’ve never done the math, but I’d bet the cost to educate a kid through college degree is much less than the cost to subsidize their income their entire life, especially when you consider the difference in the taxes they will pay over a lifetime. And that’s without taking into account the large numbers of poorly educated young people who spend much of their lives in prison or their cost to society before they are caught.

  75. Jim White
    April 1, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    It is astounding how we, and much of the industrialized world, already tried those things PJ and they worked! Yet, the U.S. is actively divesting in them.

    Walmart is famous for its low prices, right up until the competition disappears… and they raise their prices higher than they every were in that community. This is the beauty of our “free-market” charade; Wal-Mart is doing to thousands of cities world-wide, what Renner Petroleum has been doing in Humboldt County for years.

    Anyone deluded into believing that “low-prices” are good for poor people need to revisit America’s early textile mills operated by children, the Antebellum South, or remind us again how “grateful” 2 billion people are…. who had their land reform movements crushed by the U.S. for the last 100 years so that they can work for $0.25 per hour and NEVER be able to afford indoor plumbing.

  76. Alas
    April 1, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    “We already have had Target, K-Mart, Costco, Staples for decades. Those local businesses that would have been driven out of business by Wal Mart (were already driven out by big boxes and ) are already gone. Those are the businesses that might be hurt but their employees are paid about the same as Wal Mart employees are”. High-Dimwit at 12:43 pm).

    Every national economic study I’ve seen, including the only local one, warns against ANY rural economy becoming saturated in unsustainable poverty-wages for a litany of (obvious) reasons.

  77. Anonymous
    April 1, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    High Finance says:
    March 31, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    “You didn’t listen again did you “Stoic”?”

    You fools!

    This is not the first time “High Finance” alluded to the fact that he must sound-out written words in his head.

    Why do you engage such a buffoon?

  78. What Now
    April 2, 2012 at 1:01 am

    The more we engage High Moronic the safer the street will be-he won’t be zipping about ignoring traffic signals, endangering pedestrians and other motorists with his .20 blood alcohol level.

    have some concern for the community’s safety, Anonymous. Pitch in and help on this one!

  79. 713
    April 2, 2012 at 7:02 am

    PJ, Jim,
    I am with you on the long-term, we need to bring those jobs back and pay people. This will not happen overnight or even in a 5-10 year timeframe. The “unwanted” walmart will provide jobs and prices that will help the poorest among us right now. Some people can not afford the luxuries you do.

  80. High Finance
    April 2, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Critics of WalMart sit back comfortably with their Social Security or their government jobs and poo poo people who work in the private sector or are on a budget.

    Wal Mart will be popular. They will provide more jobs than the few that CostCo and K Mart will lose. The poor & middle class will appreciate the lower prices that help their budgets.

    Get over it.

    Alas, what did your study say about the impact of unemployment on rural economies ? A Wal Mart job is a thousand per-cent better than no job at all.

  81. High Finance
    April 2, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    What Now and the anonymous at 11.39pm have posted 1,000 times changing my name and think that shows how clever they are.

    It was mildly amusing the first time. Now it is tiring and only shows off how uncreative or thoughtful they are.

    Internet bullies are nothing more than frightened little punks in the real world so they have to pretend in the internet world.

  82. Chicken Little
    April 2, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    said the frightened little punk hiding behind a moniker of smoke and mirrors.

  83. TimH
    April 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Now that is interesting. Sarcastic Irony?

  84. Alas
    April 3, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Well typed Little Chicken!

    Or, as High-Hypocrisy would say, “pot, kettle, black, bet you have no friends, you’re a hater…”

    What a fool.

  85. Alas
    April 3, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    “Alas, what did your study say about the impact of unemployment on rural economies ? A Wal Mart job is a thousand per-cent better than no job at all.” (High Sophistry).

    Just as you accuse you opponents sir, you’ve neither read nor care about the plethora of research showing no net increase in jobs in rural communities that invite another big box.

    Consumer dollars are not infinite.

  86. High Finance
    April 3, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Alas I am afraid you closed your mind long ago and stopped listening to anything that conflicts with your hatred of all things Wal Mart.

    Those studies are irrelevant to the Eureka situation. Wal Mart will not be the first big box to hit us, not even the fourth.

    But go ahead and flame on. No reason for you to think.

  87. Alas
    April 4, 2012 at 12:21 am

    And more sophistry from the master, making reasonable-sounding (baseless) assumptions that “more big boxes must be better, because they’re already here and nuthin’ went wrong”!

    Pure economic illiteracy.

    “Those studies” (economists) are “irrelevant” (says “High-Finance”).

    Better stick to your “hater-defense” and the “envy is ugly-defense” and the “You have no friends-defense”.

    They truly are all you’ve got.

  88. High Finance
    April 4, 2012 at 11:07 am

    How about “I feel sorry for you. Your life must suck” ?

  89. RefFan
    April 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Yeah, what he just said!!!

  90. Just Middle Finance
    April 4, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    yet more from High Hater

  91. Alas
    April 4, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Most people would “feel sorry” for the chump who proved his adversary’s point.

    Thank you.

    My work is done here.

  92. Anonymous
    April 4, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Look on the bright side..We have the potential to become the top rated on PeopleofWallmart.com.

  93. FED UP
    April 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    You are all an embarrassment to the community. Both for and against Walmart. You say you care about the poor people of this community, yet in the same breath you put them down. You are more concerned with putting each other down and acting like two year old children, than anything else. The fact is we do live in a free democratic society. Walmart is free to open a store here, just as we as individuals are free to either shop there or not. If we do, they will stay, if not, they will go under. My family had a small business in Crescent City when Walmart opened there. And yes they did sell some of the same types of merchandise. But, if you have a quality product and service, you don’t lose your customers. It’s like comparing apples and oranges. Yes, they are both fruit, but far from interchangeable. When you want quality you go to a business that sells quality. When you want low budget, you go to Walmart. Those who shop exclusively at big box stores are not going to shop local businesses even if Walmart doesn’t go in. They will just go elsewhere or online. But the fact is we all have a right to decide for ourselves. We don’t need you self appointed jerks to tell us what we need or what we want. And we didn’t choose as a community to keep Walmart out before. YOU few who were too lazy or cheep to stand a little competition chose for us. Throwing so many obstacles in the way trying to keep the competition out. Just like they did years ago when Under Sea Gardens wanted to go in on the bay. (now Ocean World in Crescent City) Well we are tired of YOU trying to keep everything that might threaten your own self interests out, at our expense. By the way I saw NO change in our business when Walmart opened in Crescent City. If you are doing your job right you won’t either.

  94. RefFan
    April 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Nice FED UP! Too bad the self appointed jerks wont give your post any second thought but will come back with some lame ass retort on how Walmart is going to be the end of HumCo.

  95. Amy Breighton
    April 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    “The fact is we do live in a free democratic society. Walmart is free to open a store here, just as we as individuals are free to either shop there or not. If we do, they will stay, if not, they will go under.”

    Keep repeating the lies you fools!

    Never been into Ray’s Market in Eureka??

    On any given day, for over a decade, they have more employees than customers. Ever wonder where all that food is going?

    Walmart is far bigger and will stay far longer with the added benefit of being able to undercut every other business in our community until they fail.

    Exercising YOUR “freedom” not to shop there is a quaint notion that hasn’t applied in the U.S. since the first big boxes began undermining it.

    It’s remarkable how right-wing fools chanting “in the name of freedom” defend a corporation with the power, centralization, and homogenous, limited product selections reminiscent of communist dictatorships…capable of destroying competition whether you like it not.

  96. Anonymous
    April 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    ” Walmart is free to open a store here, just as we as individuals are free to either shop there or not.”

    Can I pay somebody in china one one-hundredth of my dollar to do all my work for me? I was wondering where all these walmarts were coming from while all these other businesses were closing, must be because of freedom!

  97. Anonymous
    April 6, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    hey, maybe I can pay a fourteen year old chinese kid LESS than one one-hundredth of my dollar to do all my work for me! Then I’d REALLY be excercising my freedom and, hell, if everybody did that, none of us would have to work for six bucks an hour after taxes at walmart for eight hours a day, seven days a week on an irregular schedule with expensive “benefits” and no PTO for several years.

  98. RefFan
    April 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    See, told ya so. BLAH BLAH BLAH is all we’re hearing.

  99. RefFan
    April 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Or is it BOO HOO HOO cuz you left wing nutzo’s arent getting your way?

  100. Anonymous
    April 6, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    “Keep repeating the lies you fools!

    Never been into Ray’s Market in Eureka??

    On any given day, for over a decade, they have more employees than customers. Ever wonder where all that food is going?”

    WTF does that have to do with WallyWorld Amy? I suppose some of that food goes away with you and other occutards out shoplifting.

  101. iraqwarvet1201
    April 16, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Hey you! The owner of a business here in Northern Humboldt, the HR person, the person who hires. I’m a father/husband, a Humboldt State graduate, I’m a retired Iraq War Army Veteran, someone with a great deal of discipline who will show up on time/reliable, do outstanding work, and someone who can be an asset for your company/business in many different ways. I would prefer not to work for WalMart, so if you are hiring, email me….I’ll respond with my phone number and resume.

  102. billy
    March 4, 2013 at 9:50 am

    I was just wondering, why, since wal mart has come to Eureka, and they were supposed to kill local small stores and companys, why there have been 6 store fronts that have had NEW businesses in them (,they were dead stores fronts BEFORE wal mart came), and the buisness licencing depts for all citys and county report a total of 50 NEW businesse licences issued..?…..That is NEW as in never issued before..?

  103. Anony
    March 4, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Because Billy, the left was utterly, completly and totally wrong.

    If WalMart became unionized it would no longer be the bad guy to them. This is all b/s politics.

  104. Anonymous
    March 4, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Why dig Ragg’s Rack Room close? I mean with the local economy so vibrant and all……was a place where real workers used to hang out.

  105. Just Watchin
    March 4, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    billy :
    I was just wondering, why, since wal mart has come to Eureka, and they were supposed to kill local small stores and companys, why there have been 6 store fronts that have had NEW businesses in them (,they were dead stores fronts BEFORE wal mart came), and the buisness licencing depts for all citys and county report a total of 50 NEW businesse licences issued..?…..That is NEW as in never issued before..?

    Maybe Highboldage could answer this. How about it Bill???

  106. Roberto
    March 4, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    PRAISE COSTCO! I put 95% on quality. Never will I go to Wal-Mart!

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