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All 1st District candidates agree: WalMart will impact small businesses

A question about WalMart during a debate of 1st District Candidates for Humboldt County Supervisor prompted unanimous agreement that local businesses will take a hit from the arrival of the retail behemoth.

Annette de Modena said that in addition to lost local dollars, she had issues with how WalMart has treated its employees, especially women.

Rex Bohn said he “feels deeply about the businesses that will be effected” and will shop local.

Cheryl Seidner echoed that citing the loss of local dollars spent at WalMart vs. local business.

  1. May 8, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    I do not understand this kneejerk anti-WalMart bias. They are probably the only business that can save the mall from closure. They will be hiring people and those people will have more money to spend.

    Also, I think that Mr Bohn probably said “…affected…” spell check can get us all in trouble ;)

  2. tra
    May 8, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    “They will be hiring people and those people will have more money to spend.”

    Jobs added at WalMart minus jobs lost at local competitors equals NET job losses.

    You don’t understand the concern, because you’re only considering half the equation.

  3. May 8, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Because more money is better than no money. Walmart…it’s better than starving.

  4. Jack Sherman
    May 8, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Poor folks must shop at Walmart and the profits are used to maintain the republican victory in their war on the poor.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2012/05/bentonvilles-influence-in-washingto.html

  5. anonymous101
    May 8, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    Meanwhile no local media covered the LWV sponsored Congressional debate yesterday? I guess voters should just rely on paid ads to learn about the biggest decision they’ll have made in the last 12 years?

  6. May 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Walmart = less money.

  7. Jack Sherman
    May 8, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    More importantly, the LWV got their PR confused on the supervisor forum announcement, and since KEET “can’t afford” to stream it, and “can’t figure out” how to send a recording to someone that can, many are guaranteed not to see it. Ever.

    We know we’ll have a democrat in Congress, but turning over the county to a majority of mall/sprawl boneheads is unacceptable.

    Absentee ballots are in the mail, half the electorate may vote in the next week, and not one newspaper has had an in-depth interview asking critical questions about leadership?? I don’t watch TV news but I’ll bet they’ve done poorly as well.

    And media bigwigs wonder why their newspapers are shrinking, and fewer people are watching the “news”.

  8. Anonymous
    May 8, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    “They will be hiring people and those people will have more money to spend.”

    They will be hiring the HSU students they are targeting for hire at minimum wage, probably less than full time for most of them, on alternating weekly schedules making it impossible for them to construct a reliable seven day week of events any given time in the future. Those HSU students will leave school and move into apartments with roomates who all give up over half their income to rent and utilities, and the other half to the other necessities of life, leaving very little money for liesure. They will be stuck in the revolving door of big box style employment indefinitely, as the rest of the nation already structured around big boxes PROVE. Locals who would have been content to work at walmart will instead be faced with the usual rent increases not matching an increase in income (one year for a twenty five cent raise at big boxes like walmart, and the everchanging schedule). With the addition of more living “units” to accomodate more student immigration, long time locals will literally be worth less in the pool of humboldt’s human resources.

    That is what is going to happen, because that’s what has happened and is continuing to happen 100% of the time.

  9. Anonymous
    May 8, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    “and not one newspaper has had an in-depth interview asking critical questions about leadership??”

    Local journalists would rather hound non-politico’s, some sort of fear factor or something, probably to do with “niceness” in their immediate presence. I, too, have never read a real interview in which local journalists from any of the rags dares to push a politico’s buttons regarding specific issues. The last round of elections was so pathetic in that sense, all the local newspapers might as well have volunteered to print bumperstickers for them all. And who was elected? The money, as usual. Local journalists need to buck up and remember the politicians work for us, not the other way around. Politicos suck up to us beforehand, then when in office quaintly disappear, having successfully dodged any real insight into their plans for office.

  10. HumBiz
    May 8, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    It will be good to have Walmart locally. I’ll miss the trips to Crescent City but enjoy the gas savings and shipping charges from having larger items shipped. Can’t wait for Home Depot to join them here as well.

  11. jr
    May 8, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Wal-Mart, or any other employer, needs to pay a wage of $11.56/hour just to make the wage what is was in 1968. A livable wage would be somethin like $18.00/hour. Without the increase people will become essentially indentured servants.

  12. May 8, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Just as they said about shopping there: If you don’t like their wages, don’t apply for a job there.

  13. Amy Breighton
    May 8, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Amazing how little has changed since the Pharaohs…the beatings, torture, and pillage still applied to the world’s darkest complexions.

    Wallmart does indeed target families too poorly educated to calculate the monetary losses in driving 180 miles to Crescent City to save $50 on a truck-load of crap they could already buy at Target, K-mart, et al.

    Glad HumBiz survived the drive, with family and station-wagon intact.

  14. Jack Sherman
    May 8, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Just as they said about Ray’s Market, Walmart can stay open decades with few customers until the competition is eliminated and there’s fewer places to shop, fewer selections of products, and fewer opportunities for higher wages.

    Eureka is saturated in poverty wages making the choice of higher wages a rapidly evaporating fantasy.

    Those with the slightest opportunities elsewhere are moving, leaving behind increasing numbers of the poor and homeless, the impoverished masses that republicans love to complain about.

    A win-win.

  15. HumBiz
    May 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    The station wagon we had when I was a child at today’s fuel prices would have cost a bit to make a trip up the coast, but last I checked the Lexus gets about 25mpg and even at $4.50, it is less than $50 for the trip. It is not so hard to save that with that a targeted trip in mind, and combined with a stop for reasonable hardware pricing from depot, it is an enjoyable afternoon.

  16. jr
    May 8, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    HumBiz: I have found that Crescent Ace Hardware next door to Wal-Mart generally beats Home Depot prices (But I only get up there occasionally.)

  17. tra
    May 8, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    HumBiz,

    Add in the cost of wear-and-tear on the car, and the total cost of using your vehicle for that trip is much higher. And, assuming your time is not completely worthless, you should also figure in the amount of time spent driving as part of the total “true cost” of driving all the way to Crescent City and back in an effort to “save” money. With few exceptions, this would only “pencil out” as true savings if you were already going to be there for some other reason.

  18. Jack Sherman
    May 8, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    I’ll wager dollars to donuts “HumBiz” already knows that.

    He’s another provocateur, if not “highly Mistaken” himself…this is his favorite issue, after all.

  19. May 8, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Because of our lack of coverage, we have no full time news department, I have teamed up with the Humboldt Sentinel. They do the interviews, we trade an ad with them.

    At the link above are 6 candidates having it out covered by the Humboldt Sentinel on January 24th.

  20. May 8, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    The date was actually the 22nd. of Jan.

  21. anoni-driver
    May 8, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    “but last I checked the Lexus gets about 25mpg and even at $4.50, it is less than $50 for the trip.”

    How are you gonna argue with a guy who drives a Lexus to Walmart? Pointless.

  22. Anonymous
    May 8, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    There is no validity to any pro-walmart argument.

  23. Anonymous
    May 8, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    re: tom’s vid…only have a couple minutes, jumping around…

    The two guys on the end (black hat and guy next to him) say what needs to be said about the environment, and restoring nature being the center of all politics from now on.

  24. High Finance
    May 8, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    There is no validity to any anti-Wal Mart argument for Eureka.

    Only emotion, bias & misinformation.

  25. Anonymous
    May 8, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    High Finance, are you a genuine representation of yourself, or are you playing the part of such a predictably apathetic industrialist? Are YOU a liar?

  26. May 8, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Looks like HiFi thinks his guy Bohn is full of “emotion, bias & misinformation.”

  27. SNaFU
    May 8, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    The HH is a great place to WSP&M.
    Pierson’s & ACE Hardware best beware of the Home Depot is on the horizon.

  28. Thirdeye
    May 8, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Did HiFi ever say he supported Bohn? Could be a Seidner supporter for all I know.

  29. Jack Sherman
    May 8, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    This would be a good time to publish a picture of Bohn when he was often seen wearing one of those pro-Walmart pins in 1999.

    One anonymous opponent could sink Bohn’s entire quarter-million dollar campaign in October by airing a TV ad with clips showing Bohn defending the highest gas prices in the nation….being paid by the nation’s poorest working families in Eureka.

  30. Anonymous
    May 8, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    “This would be a good time to publish a picture of Bohn when he was often seen wearing one of those pro-Walmart pins in 1999.”

    KABOOM! excellent.

  31. Anonymous
    May 9, 2012 at 7:33 am

    Walmart bribes governments around the world, cheats their customers and puts their workers on welfare. What a great company.

  32. anoni-driver
    May 9, 2012 at 7:40 am

    “There is no evidence that the earth is round.” – HiFi

  33. HumBiz
    May 9, 2012 at 7:51 am

    October campaign? Bohn may yet get the totals to end this in June.

  34. RefFan
    May 9, 2012 at 8:29 am

    We need any paying jobs and Walmart is better than nothing. Our County is hurting for large employers who pay well and offer good benefits since we lost all the lumber mills. Haven’t heard of any suggestions from the anti-walmart crowd in how to get those lost jobs back & what will work best in this county.

  35. High Finance
    May 9, 2012 at 8:32 am

    What the hell does Wal-Mart coming have to do with any supervisorial race ?

    Wal-Mart is a legal company coming into a space that is already zoned retail.

    I swear, you people are getting more silly by the day.

  36. Anonymous
    May 9, 2012 at 8:45 am

    No Relfan, Walmart is worse than nothing. They put their employees on the taxpayer teat, ship their profits out of state and cheat their customers with “mistakes” at the cash register for which they have been fined repeatedly. There will be less money to spend locally, loss of jobs and more welfare spending.

  37. Smart 5th Grader
    May 9, 2012 at 8:59 am

    High Finance said:
    May 9, 2012 at 8:32 am

    “What the hell does Wal-Mart coming have to do with any supervisorial race ?”
    You’re not really that obtuse? Are you?

  38. Anonymous
    May 9, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Can you seriously ask HiFi that question after reading his posts?

  39. High Finance
    May 9, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Dumb Ass 5th Grader and 9.08am just proved my point.

    Thank you guys.

  40. Anonymous
    May 9, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Maybe the folks in the First District are smart ewnough to know that money spent at WalMart often TAKES AWAY money that used to be spent in the First. That impacts sales taxes and local budgets. Is Eureka so blood-thirsty that it needs to capture ALL the taxes so that Fortuna, McKinleyville, and Garberville have much less with which to run their cities and districts? Sure looks that way. Same story as the so-called Marina Center. Gimme, Gimmee, Gimmee!

  41. Jack Sherman
    May 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Bohn’s handlers have advised him to sympathize with local businesses injured by Walmart, far short of acknowledging that Walmart is a bad neighbor, and that the county simply cannot afford to subsidize more poverty-wage jobs.

    For those believing any job is a good job, let’s hand them a shovel and see how deeply they bury themselves before they have an epiphany.

  42. Anonymous
    May 9, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    “Bohn’s handlers have advised him to sympathize with local businesses injured by Walmart, far short of acknowledging that Walmart is a bad neighbor, and that the county simply cannot afford to subsidize more poverty-wage jobs.”

    Exactly like another currently elected supervisor’s handlers advised her to stop claiming her lifelong status as a registered republican and fool the public into thinking she’s a democrat instead.

  43. HumBiz
    May 9, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    “Local businesses that might be injured”

    More like businesses that may have to compete to keep their status quo.

  44. Jack Sherman
    May 9, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    It’s a “free market” and everyone has the opportunity to hire 15 year- olds in Vietnam to work for zip with no environmental or worker-safety regulations while paying zero taxes.

  45. Percy
    May 10, 2012 at 6:34 am

    HumBiz, I drive my Bentley up to CC every week for cheap Mexican food, wanna car pool?

  46. May 18, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Wal-Mart rocks.

    Prices are low, and dumb people everywhere. I walk out of there with more money then I walk in with!

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